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Seafroggys
03-01-2005, 11:14 PM
Female equivelent of John Lennon? Awesome, I want to marry you (mainly because I think Johnnie is the best looking guy of all time). We'd fit perfectly.

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 12:00 AM
Man, if my girl could sing like John Lennon... that would rock so hard.

EightMilesHigh
03-02-2005, 12:05 AM
Blackbird is such a pretty song but its a bugger to sing at the same time!

Random fact for ya
Paul became a better pianist than the others because whilst in Hamburg he was forced to play piano instead of guitar for ages because he broke his guitar and couldnt afford another one. I love the stories of the beatles in Hamburg, it all sounds really crazy and dirty, very unlike the clean cut Beatles that Epstein made them.

Yea, I love those, back when they were wild teens :lol: . I heard they had to sneak George into clubs because he was so young.

Bass_guy333
03-02-2005, 12:07 AM
The Beatles are overrated in my mind. (starts war)

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 12:26 AM
The Beatles are overrated in my mind. (starts war)

Why do you say? I don't care if you think they're overrated, makes for interesting discussion. But give some reasons.

clown_phobia
03-02-2005, 03:10 AM
Did you know that they had to go back to England from hamburg because George was underage?

clown_phobia
03-02-2005, 03:10 AM
I personally don't think they're underrated one bit.

Sgt._Joker
03-02-2005, 05:29 AM
I gave up when the time signature changed, so I think I got at least one measure down


Edit: someone said I sound like the female equivalent of John Lennon. :happy:

I can sing very much like J.L, and can speak like him, i studied his accent and singing style for ****ing ages, because i was doing a monolog for drama, and i chose to do one of J.L's speeches.


Something that continuously bloody amazes me is the song "a Day in the Life" feels so powerfull and moving, and emotional and makes me feel this awesome feeling Yet the lyrics mean Jack S'hit!
Gotta love the song, :thumb:

Sgt._Joker
03-02-2005, 05:30 AM
The Beatles are overrated in my mind. (starts war)

If u could back up Why you think the beatles are Over-rated i will be very impressed.

Bass_guy333
03-02-2005, 08:09 AM
Why do you say? I don't care if you think they're overrated, makes for interesting discussion. But give some reasons.

I dunno, they're not that great a band to begin with, but thats personal preference. They're given way too much cred for what they've done, because to say they changed rock music forever is a bit much. Sure they've influenced it, but who hasn't nowadays. Not everything that's done today has led up because of them. The only reason everyone likes the Beatles is because everyone else likes the Beatles, if you get my drift.

I'd say more but I'm on my way out.

Schyma
03-02-2005, 09:14 AM
I dunno, they're not that great a band to begin with, but thats personal preference. They're given way too much cred for what they've done, because to say they changed rock music forever is a bit much. Sure they've influenced it, but who hasn't nowadays. Not everything that's done today has led up because of them. The only reason everyone likes the Beatles is because everyone else likes the Beatles, if you get my drift.

I'd say more but I'm on my way out.
No, they actully did change rock forever. Try reading a book on Rock history.

Oh and the Beatles were known for their songwritting not their musical talent.

Idyll
03-02-2005, 09:54 AM
Thing is regardless of whatever the beatles may or may not have done. They had a massive impact on music. Before the Beatles the press considered popular music to be a passing fad of musical ineptness.
If you dont like thier music thats fair enough, its been a long time and some of it does sound dated. But their impact cannot be overstatted both musical and cultural.
Besides its a fascinating period musically, culturally and politically.

pigonthewing82
03-02-2005, 03:10 PM
You know I was thinking the Beatles songs are really bass driven. I think this is because Paul was a Bass player, but wrote some of the other instrumentals. Do you guys think they would sound different if Paul was the lead gutiarist?

darkkeeper9
03-02-2005, 03:40 PM
George was definitely rad, and very underlooked. His solo career is really incredible, and songs like Here Comes the Sun and Something are just incredible.


I agree, even though he did not write that meny songs in the early years he seemed to me to have the most potential, look at "while my guitar gently wheeps" its amazing, i mean the guitar solo says it all :)

darkkeeper9
03-02-2005, 03:51 PM
[QUOTE=Livewired]How does everbody feel about Revolver because it hasnt been mentioned at all.

I really like it. I think Taxman has an incredible groove to it.:)[/QUO


Revolver is one of there best, i think its incredably creative, if you look at such tracks as tomorrow never know and love you to. but i think the best track is and you bird can sing its just got such a good rythem and i just can't help singing along with it :rolleyes:

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 04:13 PM
You know I was thinking the Beatles songs are really bass driven. I think this is because Paul was a Bass player, but wrote some of the other instrumentals. Do you guys think they would sound different if Paul was the lead gutiarist?

Seeing as George is a better guitarist than Paul, I think the band would've been worse if Paul played lead guitar. Although it probably would have been a good deal less bass driven, I agree. But, Harrison wrote many of the guitar solos, even if he didn't get writing credit, so I think the band worked fine just as it is.

To Bass_Guy, I actually do see your point about the whole knee jerk "I love the beatles just because" reaction. However, I think they really did have quite a large influence on modern music. But, it's really impossible to say, because its all speculation on how it would have been different if The Beatles had never been. Who knows?

Walrus Gumboot
03-02-2005, 05:52 PM
Female equivelent of John Lennon? Awesome, I want to marry you (mainly because I think Johnnie is the best looking guy of all time). We'd fit perfectly.

Well, vocal equivalent, so I don't have the nose. That was a good looking nose he had... :D

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 06:43 PM
I know it's against the rules, and I apologize, but I need to ask for advice from people who I know have good music taste.

Not quite sure how this happened, but my school's Battle of the Bands is at the end of the month, and each band plays 3-5 songs. I'm playing lead guitar for 3 bands. Any good advice for quick tunes? Two of the bands I've never played with before, but they want me to play lead for them. Not quite sure how I got in this mess, especially with all the school work I need to do, but any advice would be MAJORLY appreciated. Emailing me at EthanRodkin@gmail.com, or hitting me up on AIM at DeusExMachina107 would be sooooo helpful its unbelievable. Thanks in advance, and if anyone is pissed about this post... I don't blame you.

ledpoisoning27
03-02-2005, 06:48 PM
I know it's against the rules, and I apologize, but I need to ask for advice from people who I know have good music taste.

Not quite sure how this happened, but my school's Battle of the Bands is at the end of the month, and each band plays 3-5 songs. I'm playing lead guitar for 3 bands. Any good advice for quick tunes? Two of the bands I've never played with before, but they want me to play lead for them. Not quite sure how I got in this mess, especially with all the school work I need to do, but any advice would be MAJORLY appreciated. Emailing me at EthanRodkin@gmail.com, or hitting me up on AIM at DeusExMachina107 would be sooooo helpful its unbelievable. Thanks in advance, and if anyone is pissed about this post... I don't blame you.
my advice is don't show up, and this has nothing to do with the Beatles, so go to the Community Thread with this.

Walrus Gumboot
03-02-2005, 07:37 PM
What are the band's influences and styles? Maybe some of them know/like some songs you already know...

maybe you could er... play Beatles songs
/makes this post relevent

pigonthewing82
03-02-2005, 07:43 PM
You know I got into a debate with my sister if the Beatles influenced Punk. I say that they did. Helter Skelter I think influenced the Ramones. Am I wrong?

Walrus Gumboot
03-02-2005, 07:45 PM
I still love enteraining the thought of getting some super-trendy kid to listen to Helter Skelter and think its some edgy new band from Greenwich Villiage or something

Edit: IV'E GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!

pigonthewing82
03-02-2005, 08:16 PM
I still love enteraining the thought of getting some super-trendy kid to listen to Helter Skelter and think its some edgy new band from Greenwich Villiage or something

Edit: IV'E GOT BLISTERS ON MY FINGERS!

Yea I mean too many people just think of the Beatles in their fab four days, witch is really sad because while they were a great fab four band, they were an even better rock band.

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 09:08 PM
You know I got into a debate with my sister if the Beatles influenced Punk. I say that they did. Helter Skelter I think influenced the Ramones. Am I wrong?

I don't think Helter Skelter influenced The Ramones. The Ramones are poppy. Helter Skelter I would think more influenced stuff like The Sex Pistols. But, I haven't heard much by The Sex Pistols, so couldn't say for positive.

pigonthewing82
03-02-2005, 09:12 PM
I don't think Helter Skelter influenced The Ramones. The Ramones are poppy. Helter Skelter I would think more influenced stuff like The Sex Pistols. But, I haven't heard much by The Sex Pistols, so couldn't say for positive.

Yea see thats my problem I've just started getting into Punk but don't know that much about it. I'm pretty sure the Beatles influnced it, but I don't know much about the comparisson.

DeusExMachina
03-02-2005, 09:42 PM
I'm not huge into punk. I like some of the 70's and early 80's punk, and I'm a sucker for ska, but in general not a huge punk person. Against Me! are like, the best band of the 90's though. Unbelievable folk/punk fusion.

Sgt._Joker
03-04-2005, 12:22 AM
to Limewired: george wrote "taxman"'s riff around the Batman theme song.

clown_phobia
03-04-2005, 01:59 AM
There is a very high pitched sound at the end of the album Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, which supposedly only dogs can hear...

but I can hear it easily!!! I've heard that it's only about 15000 cycles per second... is this true?

Walrus Gumboot
03-04-2005, 07:06 PM
Yeah, if it were a dog whistle, would it be possible to record anyway? o.O
What does 15000 cycles mean?

clown_phobia
03-04-2005, 07:51 PM
15000 cycles mean the sound wave vibrates 15 000 times per second. The faster it vibrates, the higher the sound.

ultraspamboy
03-04-2005, 09:41 PM
I've heard it too. I think the human ear can reach up to 20,000hz, but I'm not sure. I've gone up to 19000hz on my comp or around there. I've wanted to play the end of Sgt. Pepper's for my sister's guinea pig for a while now.

DeusExMachina
03-05-2005, 10:44 PM
I doubt its true. There would have been a controversy of like, a dog going insane and killing an autistic baby because of Sgt. Peppers.

Seafroggys
03-05-2005, 11:30 PM
We had this oscillating unit in Physics, and I think I could hear all the way up to 17 khz.

Woodstock
03-05-2005, 11:31 PM
It differs for everyone.

ozzy7788
03-05-2005, 11:38 PM
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Idyll
03-06-2005, 07:27 PM
The sound is definately there cos John says he put it in in the anthology book and the other beatles confirm it. John put it in to piss dogs off.

Krabsworth
03-06-2005, 07:36 PM
john says he put that high pitched noise in just to piss dogs off... hes my idol even more

RNR
03-06-2005, 09:10 PM
john says he put that high pitched noise in just to piss dogs off... hes my idol even more
:lol:.




:angry:

clown_phobia
03-08-2005, 02:13 AM
What's everyone's favourite Beatles guitar solo?

Bon_Scottie
03-08-2005, 06:13 AM
I've only just listened to my Dads 'Beatles - Greatest hits' album, and realised how good all of the tunes are.

They are an awesome band... So I'll be sure expand my Beatles... music knowledge.

PinkFreud
03-08-2005, 02:24 PM
What's everyone's favourite Beatles guitar solo?
ive always liked let it be. not crazy or technical but very nice sounding and fits well with the song.

Schyma
03-08-2005, 03:47 PM
Taxman has a cool solo.

Woodstock
03-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Taxman has a cool solo.......
........Played by Paul.

Seafroggys
03-08-2005, 06:55 PM
Yeah, Let it Be has a freakishly awesome solo. Same with The End (with all three of them playing). There are some solos that could have been really awesome if they were longer (Helter Skelter, Strawberry Fields, etc.)

pigonthewing82
03-08-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah, Let it Be has a freakishly awesome solo. Same with The End (with all three of them playing). There are some solos that could have been really awesome if they were longer (Helter Skelter, Strawberry Fields, etc.)

Yea but because of the holes were there could have been a longer solo Helter Skelter is fun to jam to and add a longer solo. When I play it I go for about 6 min.

Thor
03-08-2005, 08:02 PM
Best Beatles song = Love is all you need

Walrus Gumboot
03-08-2005, 08:18 PM
Yeah, Let it Be has a freakishly awesome solo. Same with The End (with all three of them playing). There are some solos that could have been really awesome if they were longer (Helter Skelter, Strawberry Fields, etc.)


Yeah, that one that is less than 3 seconds long in Strawberry Feilds Forever needed to be at least 5 seconds longer

My favorite, if not let It Be would have to be While My Guitar Gently Weeps, which I believe was Clapton... oh well

TheSeeker625
03-08-2005, 08:51 PM
I believe Harrison wrote it, but Clapton performed it on the album. I'm not sure though.

clown_phobia
03-09-2005, 05:06 AM
It was George Harrison that wrote it, and played it.
George Harrison was driving to the recording studio with Eric Clapton in the car. George suggested that Eric play on the song (the guitar solo), but Eric said that the other beatles might not want it. At this point they were recording the white album, and every beatle was pretty much recording his own songs with the rest as backing band. George said that it was his song and he wanted Eric to play on it.

And he did. Eric Clapton played the solo, and george and the beatles played the rest.

DeusExMachina
03-09-2005, 05:14 PM
You mean, Clapton played the solo.

El_Goodo
03-09-2005, 05:24 PM
My favourite beatles solo is on I Want You (She's So Heavy) I LOVE THAT SONG!

Walrus Gumboot
03-09-2005, 05:39 PM
How could I forget "Something"?

Seafroggys
03-09-2005, 05:50 PM
Best Beatles song = Love is all you need

*hits head on dashboard*

*wonders why I"m on forum while driving*

Instant Beatle noob right here. Its "All You Need is Love," and I'm surprised you don't know it, since its probably the most famous Beatle song.

pigonthewing82
03-09-2005, 06:37 PM
My favourite beatles solo is on I Want You (She's So Heavy) I LOVE THAT SONG!

Yea it goes in and out as my favorite too.

Sgt._Joker
03-09-2005, 09:03 PM
as for favourite guitar solo, i dunno, but i really really really like the paino and bass part of "Hey Bulldog"

Schyma
03-09-2005, 09:24 PM
as for favourite guitar solo, i dunno, but i really really really like the paino and bass part of "Hey Bulldog"
Sounds like the James Bond theme song.

clown_phobia
03-10-2005, 01:30 AM
You mean, Clapton played the solo.
Fixed :thumb:

clown_phobia
03-10-2005, 01:35 AM
How could I forget "Something"?

Brilliant song :)

mprules
03-10-2005, 01:38 AM
abbey road is awesome

clown_phobia
03-10-2005, 02:22 AM
abbey road is awesome

You're absolutely right. :thumb:

That is one brilliant album. Every instrument was at it's best, the melodies were fantastic and the songwriting was fantastic.

That was the last album they recorded, and was supposed to be the last album they released. The entire second half is made up of song ideas they stiched together. Paul chose the order for the second half, John the first.

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 06:34 AM
Sounds like the James Bond theme song.

Which came first Bond or Hey Bulldog?

Walrus Gumboot
03-10-2005, 07:17 AM
Bond, I think Dr. No was '63

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 11:50 AM
I heard today that when the Manson cult killed those people they wrote Helter Skelter on the wall. Is that true? If so I think he kinda missed the message the Beatles sent.

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 12:16 PM
I feel bad for the Beatles I mean they wrote songs to fight for peace, and sombody turned it around into murder. If that happened to me I don't know if I could keep writting.

Walrus Gumboot
03-10-2005, 03:27 PM
yeah, John was pissed because Manson changed the image of a long-hair long-bearded guy from a hippie into a murderer. People wearing this style were forever more asscoiated with being phchos instead of peace-lovers :(

DeusExMachina
03-10-2005, 05:08 PM
Well, Manson was also a musical genius. Neil Young said he'd never met someone that was so just naturally brilliant with music. The guy just came up with idea after idea after idea. Similar to Syd Barrett in a lot of ways, only his insanity took a very different turn.

I Want You (She's So Heavy) is kind of overrated in my opinion. It's good, but too long. Something is unbelievable though. The live version of it on the George in Japan CD is unbelievable.

ultraspamboy
03-10-2005, 05:35 PM
I've heard the reason it's so repetitive is because it represents obsession (in this case, John for Yoko)

DeusExMachina
03-10-2005, 06:05 PM
There may be a reason for it to be so repetitive, but it doesn't change the fact that I find it annoying after awhile.

Woodstock
03-10-2005, 06:41 PM
I Want You(She's So Heavy) has some of Paul's greatest bass work ever. One part in the song, he does this "bombardment" of notes that sounds awesome.

Broken Arrow
03-10-2005, 06:44 PM
Well, Manson was also a musical genius. Neil Young said he'd never met someone that was so just naturally brilliant with music. The guy just came up with idea after idea after idea. Similar to Syd Barrett in a lot of ways, only his insanity took a very different turn.

I Want You (She's So Heavy) is kind of overrated in my opinion. It's good, but too long. Something is unbelievable though. The live version of it on the George in Japan CD is unbelievable.
Yeah, Neil Young said he could make up a song out of the top of head every different time and each song was amazing.

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 07:24 PM
yeah, John was pissed because Manson changed the image of a long-hair long-bearded guy from a hippie into a murderer. People wearing this style were forever more asscoiated with being phchos instead of peace-lovers :(

John also got really pissed off because he was asked to attend the trial of manson and in short he said:
"No F**k off, paul and i just wrote a song that had nothing to do with serial killing, you cant hold us responsible for what happend"

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 07:25 PM
yeah, John was pissed because Manson changed the image of a long-hair long-bearded guy from a hippie into a murderer. People wearing this style were forever more asscoiated with being phchos instead of peace-lovers :(

John also got really pissed off because he was asked to attend the trial of manson and in short he said:
"No F**k off, paul and i just wrote a song that had nothing to do with serial killing, you cant hold us responsible for what happend"

*listens to Helter Skelter*

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 07:37 PM
You know I think this whole Charles Manson thing really shows how many different meanings to everybody. Thats why I like the Beatles lyrics so much, they don't have a meaning the band wanted them to have, as much as a meaning that everybody has their own interpetation of.

MalcolmYoungRock
03-10-2005, 07:50 PM
I'm reading about the Charles Manson case right now...

and it seems like this episode of CSI I saw.

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Was Manson a Beatles fan? I mean I'm pretty sure he was, but the whole Helter Skelter thing seems more like a slap in a face to John then anything. I mean did he think he would be impressed?

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 07:58 PM
no clue, i dont think anyone but manson does.

What do you guys think would of happend if John Lennon wasnt shot and still was living today?

and what do you think about the consperacy of John's killer being linked to the CIA?

Walrus Gumboot
03-10-2005, 08:02 PM
I think he would be doing what Neil Young is doing with Greendale.

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 08:03 PM
whats neil doing?

Walrus Gumboot
03-10-2005, 08:20 PM
Greendale--- It was a tour, it is a movie and album, check it out

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 08:28 PM
no clue, i dont think anyone but manson does.

What do you guys think would of happend if John Lennon wasnt shot and still was living today?

and what do you think about the consperacy of John's killer being linked to the CIA?

I think we would see a huger outcry against the war in Iraq. I don't think he would be putting out albums still he doesn't seem like the ageing rockstar type. I just think there would be more people with free minds.

I don't think the CIA had anything to do with it. I mean why not take out Dylan too?

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 09:11 PM
I think john lennon would still produce CD's but because he was known to say "Music is the most powerfull protest wepon, etc etc etc"
he'd use it as a protest outlet

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 09:28 PM
I think john lennon would still produce CD's but because he was known to say "Music is the most powerfull protest wepon, etc etc etc"
he'd use it as a protest outlet

Yea that is very true. I think that just one thing needs to be said about what would have happened had he lived and thats that our world would be a better place, and peace would seem less like the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.

ultraspamboy
03-10-2005, 09:37 PM
I think we would see a huger outcry against the war in Iraq.

I think not. Lennon would almost doubtlessly be against it if he remained philosophically similar to how he was during his lifetime, but people would discredit him for it. Just because Lennon says it's good doesn't mean that people would follow. I can totally see him getting blasted on Rush or somewhere for coming out against the war, and his sometimes utopian views would be easily attacked. Part of his mystique is that he's dead.

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 09:47 PM
I think not. Lennon would almost doubtlessly be against it if he remained philosophically similar to how he was during his lifetime, but people would discredit him for it. Just because Lennon says it's good doesn't mean that people would follow. I can totally see him getting blasted on Rush or somewhere for coming out against the war, and his sometimes utopian views would be easily attacked. Part of his mystique is that he's dead.

Since when did John stop fighting for peace because he would lost popularity. If that were true they would have stopped being political long before the end of their career. There would be a bigger outcry against the war because I'm sure he would speak out against it. He has a way with words where everything just sort of makes sense. And to those who attacked his utopian views I think he would say somthing like "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 09:57 PM
i agree with piggy, John Lennon couldnt give a flying fu*k about popularity, and i was reading a book about him and he said "I know its very selfish but i dont give a **** about humanity, i'll just try and do what i can for the moment"

ultraspamboy
03-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Hey, I never said he would stop, I'm just saying fewer people would be into it. I definitely agree that, if allowed to defend himself, he would be hard to attack without prior character assassination by whoever was trying to knock him down. I think of "Imagine" as a work of genius mainly because unlike most political songs of any era it addresses and accepts the idea that people oppose the viewpoint it expresses.

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 10:06 PM
sorry mate, didnt mean to have a go at you.

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 10:08 PM
I dont know man I mean like I said before he had a way with words that made everything seem simple. I mean he could spark an emotion of peace in anybody. I think he would gather more followers then any other person could at this time.

Sgt._Joker
03-10-2005, 10:10 PM
The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 10:22 PM
The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me

Yea I mean Johns lyrics say so much to me. I mean its like sombody is telling me everything about myself that I haven't been able to put into words of my own.

ultraspamboy
03-10-2005, 10:35 PM
Yeah he'd definitely have more impact than any of the minor figures that protest these days. It would be the same thing if Martin Luther King Jr. were alive. I bet him and Lennon might get along.

pigonthewing82
03-10-2005, 10:43 PM
Yup those guys are probally the biggest figures of peace in my life (well Ghandi too, but he was also shot), and for some reason people felt the need to take it away.

clown_phobia
03-11-2005, 12:38 AM
The advantage john lennon has with the protests is Every one knows him, and he just has this "auora" around him, Bands like Coldplay and REM who do a bit of protesting just, dont have the same effect to me

He earned that aura by playing **** good music for a long time.

GeorgeHarrison
03-11-2005, 07:00 AM
Hey im not in this band/ trying to plug his band but i listened to them one day and thought they had a real beatles vibe going on. It even says on their homepage "If you like the beatles.......you'll love us" I think theyre a really good band. If you do go there and listen to some of their stuff, notice how the song "Went to bed" klinda sounds like "Her Majesty" off of abbey road. www.purevolume.com/thewestminsterabbey

Sgt._Joker
03-11-2005, 07:07 AM
^ bad link,
By that i mean, it didnt work.

Walrus Gumboot
03-11-2005, 09:33 AM
Hey, I never said he would stop, I'm just saying fewer people would be into it. I definitely agree that, if allowed to defend himself, he would be hard to attack without prior character assassination by whoever was trying to knock him down. I think of "Imagine" as a work of genius mainly because unlike most political songs of any era it addresses and accepts the idea that people oppose the viewpoint it expresses.


I think I get what you're saying... like people would accept his position and be be like "Oh, yeah, well he is John Lennon, what do you expect?"

But, he might have come out with different ways to express his antiwar views that out-do his previous ones.

I think he still would be making albums... why not? I am sure someone that musical just doesn't stop making/recording music because they don't feel like it anymore

DeusExMachina
03-11-2005, 03:07 PM
Was Manson a Beatles fan? I mean I'm pretty sure he was, but the whole Helter Skelter thing seems more like a slap in a face to John then anything. I mean did he think he would be impressed?

Manson worshipped the Beatles. He developed incredibly complex theories based on The White Album, about the interrelation of tracks, and all sorts of stuff. He also had a theory (which I think definitely could have truth to it) that Revolution Nine is based on Revalations, Chapter 9, in which the final battle between good and evil takes place, and the world basically ends. But, yeah, Manson loved the Beatles. What you have to remember is that he's insane. He didn't do what he did because he thought it would impress or piss off the Beatles, he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do. He didn't act thinking "I'm doing something terrible," he acted thinking he was doing something right. That's what makes him so scary.

As for this whole Lennon thing, you guys are really exaggerating how much influence he would have. As ultraspamboy said, a large part of his mystique is that he's dead. Name me a single rock star who's as big now as they were in the 60's. Bob Dylan isn't the voice of a generation anymore, and Lennon wouldn't be either. He would speak out against the war, sure, and some people would listen. But he wouldn't move people any more than they're already being moved. There's all these concerts going around that have anti-war themes, would one more guy really make that much difference? Sure, Lennon was a genius, but he undoubtedly would've lost some of that importance and magic if he hadn't died.

Seafroggys
03-11-2005, 03:24 PM
I'm sad to admit it, but yeah, Lennon could possible be greater now because he's dead.

But I think that there would be a lot more anti-war movement had Lennon been on the front. The baby-boomers, who make up the majority of the population, would have a familiar face to ride behind.

clown_phobia
03-11-2005, 03:34 PM
I'm sad to admit it, but yeah, Lennon could possible be greater now because he's dead.

But I think that there would be a lot more anti-war movement had Lennon been on the front. The baby-boomers, who make up the majority of the population, would have a familiar face to ride behind.

It's like saying: "Do you think Jesus is greater now that he's dead?"

ultraspamboy
03-11-2005, 06:23 PM
It's like saying: "Do you think Jesus is greater now that he's dead?"

everyone knows lennon is bigger than jesus.

RNR
03-11-2005, 06:34 PM
everyone knows lennon is bigger than jesus.

Hehe. Truth.

More people don't like Jesus than don't like Lennon too.

Walrus Gumboot
03-11-2005, 07:19 PM
How long would it take for this thread to be an ***OFFICIAL*** deal?

pigonthewing82
03-11-2005, 08:02 PM
How long would it take for this thread to be an ***OFFICIAL*** deal?
I think this one is popular so they won't make one.

Woodstock
03-11-2005, 08:05 PM
No, he means when they'll change this one into the ***OFFICIAL*** thread.

pigonthewing82
03-11-2005, 08:10 PM
No, he means when they'll change this one into the ***OFFICIAL*** thread.

Oh got ya. Yea that would be nice, I think there would be more posts.

Sgt._Joker
03-11-2005, 09:10 PM
i had this discussion with Deus over AIM, Mods tend to only make ***OFFICIAL*** threads of a band when people are constantly making threads on the same band, but there is only one Beatles thread so they dont have to make it OFFICIAL,

Woodstock
03-11-2005, 09:12 PM
i had this discussion with Deus over AIM, Mods tend to only make ***OFFICIAL*** threads of a band when people are constantly making threads on the same band, but there is only one Beatles thread so they dont have to make it OFFICIAL,
It's a large enough thread to overcome that rule.

Sgt._Joker
03-11-2005, 09:27 PM
thats true

pigonthewing82
03-11-2005, 09:35 PM
I know the Beatles used to cover a few Chuck Berry songs. Does anybody know if there is a version of them doing Johnny B Good?

clown_phobia
03-11-2005, 09:42 PM
I know the Beatles used to cover a few Chuck Berry songs. Does anybody know if there is a version of them doing Johnny B Good?

I think they did a version on Live at the BBC.

pigonthewing82
03-11-2005, 09:49 PM
I think they did a version on Live at the BBC.

Thanks :thumb:

Yea there is a lot of good rare Beatles stuff out there. I have the mother of it them though, the Beatles playing Day Tripper with Hendrix on guitar :p . Now THAT is bigger then Jesus.

DeusExMachina
03-11-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm pretty sure it is on Live at the BBC, but not positive. As for making this thread official, there's not really much point. We might get a couple more people coming in because it's official, but I doubt we'd get any serious long term posters who hadn't found the thread to begin with. Plus, no one ever makes Beatles threads clogging up the front page. Sure, it'd be nice to have it official, but it's not a big deal either way.

As for the Lennon thing, I honestly think him dying sealed his eternal fame, depressing as that thought may be. I mean, look at Hendrix. His music was going down hill (in my opinion) before he died. If he'd stayed alive, would he still be the god he is today? Plus, Rolling Stone magazine hated him. Would they give him the hype if he hadn't died? I don't think so. Look at Ray Charles' last album. It was pretty bad, to be totally honest. It only won the grammy for one reason: he died this year. And the album will be famous for that reason only. Sad, but true.

Woodstock
03-11-2005, 09:51 PM
As for the Lennon thing, I honestly think him dying sealed his eternal fame, depressing as that thought may be. I mean, look at Hendrix. His music was going down hill (in my opinion) before he died. If he'd stayed alive, would he still be the god he is today? Plus, Rolling Stone magazine hated him. Would they give him the hype if he hadn't died? I don't think so. Look at Ray Charles' last album. It was pretty bad, to be totally honest. It only won the grammy for one reason: he died this year. And the album will be famous for that reason only. Sad, but true.
I don't think Hendrix's music was going downhill. Listen to First Rays of The New Rising Sun. Great material, written right before he died.

DeusExMachina
03-11-2005, 09:54 PM
Maybe I'm crazy, but Band of Gypsies was pretty disappointing to me. Machine Gun is good, the rest I couldn't really get into too much.

pigonthewing82
03-11-2005, 09:56 PM
I don't think Hendrix's music was going downhill. Listen to First Rays of The New Rising Sun. Great material, written right before he died.

I agree I think Hendrix's stuff was amazing before, but his stuff before he died cannot be described.

Magicaltroll
03-11-2005, 10:35 PM
Sorry if you guys have talked about this, but I came across a pretty interesting site yesterday about the "proof" that paul is dead. Do you guys think its true that he is dead? or is it just a conspiracy or myth or whatever?
I kind of think it's true because they had alot of little "clues" on the site.

ultraspamboy
03-11-2005, 10:36 PM
Band of Gypsies was a throwaway album intended to fulfill an old contractual obligation.

clown_phobia
03-11-2005, 10:38 PM
Sorry if you guys have talked about this, but I came across a pretty interesting site yesterday about the "proof" that paul is dead. Do you guys think its true that he is dead? or is it just a conspiracy or myth or whatever?
I kind of think it's true because they had alot of little "clues" on the site.

Yeah that theory has been around since the 60's, and it's pretty cool, but it's obviously not true.

Woodstock
03-11-2005, 10:41 PM
Band of Gypsies was a throwaway album intended to fulfill an old contractual obligation.
It may have been for a contractual obligation, but that doesn't mean it was a throwaway album.

Sgt._Joker
03-11-2005, 10:43 PM
Sorry if you guys have talked about this, but I came across a pretty interesting site yesterday about the "proof" that paul is dead. Do you guys think its true that he is dead? or is it just a conspiracy or myth or whatever?
I kind of think it's true because they had alot of little "clues" on the site.

Paul is deff still kicking around

MalcolmYoungRock
03-11-2005, 10:45 PM
There's a book about the Paul myth called "Turn Me On, Deadman"

Of course the title refers to the message in Revolution 9.

Go check that book out.

Magicaltroll
03-11-2005, 10:52 PM
There's a book about the Paul myth called "Turn Me On, Deadman"

Of course the title refers to the message in Revolution 9.

Go check that book out.
Thanks, I just thought it was pretty interesting, because it had alot of good points, but maybe the Beatles did that stuff to have fun or something... I don't know. But still interesting imo.

ultraspamboy
03-11-2005, 10:58 PM
I definitely think they put a lot of the stuff in there to fuel the rumor. I think a lot of the tiny details are stuff that people are reading into too much though. I don't see how someone could possibly have replaced Paul McCartney, not only to look and sing like him but to write songs like him as well.

Magicaltroll
03-11-2005, 11:27 PM
I definitely think they put a lot of the stuff in there to fuel the rumor. I think a lot of the tiny details are stuff that people are reading into too much though. I don't see how someone could possibly have replaced Paul McCartney, not only to look and sing like him but to write songs like him as well.
I'm not too sure who wrote the songs in the Beatles (or if it was all the band) but I think that they could of still wrote songs without him.

Sgt._Joker
03-11-2005, 11:34 PM
possibly, but they didnt.
John and Paul mostly wrote the songs and George also wrote songs but only ocasionally got them put on the albumns.

sandman420
03-11-2005, 11:37 PM
Most of that rumour the Beatles added to.

Woodstock
03-11-2005, 11:38 PM
I'm not too sure who wrote the songs in the Beatles (or if it was all the band) but I think that they could of still wrote songs without him.
But why would a fake want a solo career? Why would he still want to have attention?

pigonthewing82
03-12-2005, 12:06 AM
I'm not too sure who wrote the songs in the Beatles (or if it was all the band) but I think that they could of still wrote songs without him.

I think if Paul died they would sound more like John's solo career.

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 03:41 PM
I think if Paul died they would sound more like John's solo career.

For sure. It just wouldn't be the same. With the Beatles, every one had such a cool, distinct personality, that it wouldn't be the Beatles without all of them.

MalcolmYoungRock
03-12-2005, 03:41 PM
Yeah, Paul kind of kept John in control with his music.

Paul was also the most talented musically, so the band would mainly be about lyrics.

Woodstock
03-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Yeah, Paul kind of kept John in control with his music.

Paul was also the most talented musically, so the band would mainly be about lyrics.
George rivaled him.

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 03:44 PM
George rivaled him.

Yeah, Something rules!

He was a very good guitarist. Very melodic.

eghed
03-12-2005, 03:52 PM
Yeah but I don't think George could play the drums

Woodstock
03-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Yeah but I don't think George could play the drums
I don't think Paul could play sitar.

eghed
03-12-2005, 04:01 PM
Ha, you're right

Schyma
03-12-2005, 04:05 PM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7020571&postcount=4903

Everyone cheak out what this retard said in the problem thread. :lol:

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 04:11 PM
When Ringo left the band for a while during the record of the white album, Paul played drums on the song 'Back in the USSR'. The band sent a postcard to Ringo saying 'You are the best drummer in the world. Really.'

Before this was sent, Paul asked John "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in world?" John responded: "The best drummer in the world?? He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"

It was while Ringo was out of the band that he wrote Octopus' Garden, which was later to appear on 1969's Abbey Road album. This song was re-worked by George in the studio but Ringo still got credits for it.

Woodstock
03-12-2005, 04:14 PM
When Ringo left the band for a while during the record of the white album, Paul played drums on the song 'Back in the USSR'. The band sent a postcard to Ringo saying 'You are the best drummer in the world. Really.'

Before this was sent, Paul asked John "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in world?" John responded: "The best drummer in the world?? He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"

It was while Ringo was out of the band that he wrote Octopus' Garden, which was later to appear on 1969's Abbey Road album. This song was re-worked by George in the studio but Ringo still got credits for it.
Already known, but thanks.

TheSeeker625
03-12-2005, 04:15 PM
A friend of mine is performing Let It Be tonight at my school's Coffee House. It should be pretty good.

eghed
03-12-2005, 04:17 PM
When Ringo left the band for a while during the record of the white album, Paul played drums on the song 'Back in the USSR'. The band sent a postcard to Ringo saying 'You are the best drummer in the world. Really.'

Before this was sent, Paul asked John "Do you think Ringo is the best drummer in world?" John responded: "The best drummer in the world?? He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles!"

It was while Ringo was out of the band that he wrote Octopus' Garden, which was later to appear on 1969's Abbey Road album. This song was re-worked by George in the studio but Ringo still got credits for it.

yes george certainly give him a lot of help
I don't think Ringo came up with that guitar part :lol:

pigonthewing82
03-12-2005, 06:47 PM
For sure. It just wouldn't be the same. With the Beatles, every one had such a cool, distinct personality, that it wouldn't be the Beatles without all of them.

Yea thats why I say the Beatles are the most perfect band of all time. I mean when they left for their solo careers you could tell what was missing from it. Even they way they broke up was perfect, the concert on top of the studio = the best way to go out of all time.

Walrus Gumboot
03-12-2005, 06:53 PM
I don't think Paul could play sitar.

pwned

I want to play sitar more than anything. Even banjo.

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 07:00 PM
Yea thats why I say the Beatles are the most perfect band of all time. I mean when they left for their solo careers you could tell what was missing from it. Even they way they broke up was perfect, the concert on top of the studio = the best way to go out of all time.

Exactly!

willis2441
03-12-2005, 07:03 PM
the beatles are pretty good IMO

MalcolmYoungRock
03-12-2005, 07:04 PM
A friend of mine is performing Let It Be tonight at my school's Coffee House. It should be pretty good.

Your school has a coffee house?

On the subject, is he playing the piano or chords on a guitar..?

Choker
03-12-2005, 08:11 PM
Your school has a coffee house? Wow, I wish my school did.

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 09:51 PM
That would just get everyone get dependant on caffeine. It's bad enough as it is.

Schyma
03-12-2005, 09:57 PM
Your too heathly and you need an avatar. Or are you to heathly for an avatar? :p

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 10:12 PM
I used to have a John Lennon avatar, and after that I had a George Harrison one.

EightMilesHigh
03-12-2005, 10:21 PM
I remember your George avatar, it was a good one.



/worships Harrison.

TheSeeker625
03-12-2005, 10:24 PM
He played it about an hour ago, with his friend and his friend's brother. He played bass, his friend played keyboard, and his friend's bro played the chords and solo. They were alright for a group that didn't rehearse a lot.
Our school's coffee house rocked, even the principal jammed. I even got extra credit in English for going.
EDIT: It's a one night thing by the way, it's not like we get Starbuck's all the time. The Art Club makes a mug and for 8 bucks you get one and all the coffeee you want for one night and all the student bands perform while you just chill with your homies.

clown_phobia
03-12-2005, 11:46 PM
I remember your George avatar, it was a good one.



/worships Harrison.

I'll put back on.

EDIT: does anyone know how to resize images?

MalcolmYoungRock
03-12-2005, 11:59 PM
I'll put back on.

EDIT: does anyone know how to resize images?

Photoshop.

Or send it to me over AIM and I'll resize it for you.

clown_phobia
03-13-2005, 12:41 AM
Photoshop.

Or send it to me over AIM and I'll resize it for you.

What's your AIM name?

MalcolmYoungRock
03-13-2005, 11:03 AM
EmWhyAre

DeusExMachina
03-13-2005, 11:21 AM
The "Paul is dead" rumor is very clearly false. I don't know why anyone would still think there's any truth to it. /late

I haven't heard First Rays of the new Rising Sun, so my opinion of Hendrix's later stuff is limited to Band of Gypsies, which I didn't like too much... anyone wanna send me First Rays? /really late

My school has a coffee house thing too. Too bad my school is utter ****, and I wish I still lived in Seattle. Oh well. I should get a band to play the coffee house, and say we're going to play some stupid Green Day song or something so we can get in, and then just do a free form space jam. That would make me plotz.

Walrus Gumboot
03-13-2005, 11:34 AM
My school has no coffe to speak of, but it has the best Ag program in the state.

/psyched

DeusExMachina
03-13-2005, 11:38 AM
Ag program? What's that? /me feels ignorant

I sign up for my next year schedule tomorrow. I'm stoked... two history courses!! I love history.

Walrus Gumboot
03-13-2005, 12:03 PM
Ag program? What's that? /me feels ignorant

I sign up for my next year schedule tomorrow. I'm stoked... two history courses!! I love history.


Agriculture, we have a flock of sheep, a horse, a few cows, a fish farm, a coop of chickens and a greenhouse, and this is all for a public school

Which History courses? I am doing two English for my senior year; Philosophy/AP English and Media Studies

GeorgeHarrison
03-13-2005, 12:21 PM
My school has a coffee house thing too. Too bad my school is utter ****, and I wish I still lived in Seattle. Oh well. I should get a band to play the coffee house, and say we're going to play some stupid Green Day song or something so we can get in, and then just do a free form space jam. That would make me plotz.

you should say youre gonna play some yellowcard and New found glory covers, and then play "Set the controls for the heart of the sun" or really F***ed up Band version of "Revolution 9". I dont know how you would do it but it would be awesome.

Also, I am a HUUUUUUUUUGE fan of the white album, And a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fan of The Beatles, and i just wanted to say that in my opinion, "Wild Honey Pie" is probably one of the worst songs written. What do you think?

MalcolmYoungRock
03-13-2005, 12:34 PM
you should say youre gonna play some yellowcard and New found glory covers, and then play "Set the controls for the heart of the sun" or really F***ed up Band version of "Revolution 9". I dont know how you would do it but it would be awesome.

Also, I am a HUUUUUUUUUGE fan of the white album, And a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fan of The Beatles, and i just wanted to say that in my opinion, "Wild Honey Pie" is probably one of the worst songs written. What do you think?

Eh, it grew on me.

It's contagious though.

HONEY PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE.
HONEY PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE.

DeusExMachina
03-13-2005, 12:37 PM
Agriculture, we have a flock of sheep, a horse, a few cows, a fish farm, a coop of chickens and a greenhouse, and this is all for a public school

Which History courses? I am doing two English for my senior year; Philosophy/AP English and Media Studies

Next year I'm taking...
1) AP English Lit
2) Multivariable Calculus
3) Honors Physics
4) AP US History
5) AP World History
6) Programming
7) Orchestra

Your agriculture class sounds amazing. I'm really jealous. As for the space jam thing... something like Revolution 9 would be awesome, if we could pull it off. I think I'm just going to turn all my effects on, grab a slide, and just do weird slide stuff. Wild Honey Pie was really obnoxious at first, but it definitely grew on me. I love the flamenco part at the end.

TheSeeker625
03-13-2005, 12:48 PM
Check out my schedule for 11th grade:
AP English
AP Biology
AP U.S. History
AP Psychology
AP U.S. Government
Social Science Research Seminar
Math B2/Precalculus Honors
French 1-Advanced (The first 3 years of French jammed into one year)

DeusExMachina
03-13-2005, 04:42 PM
That's a pretty daunting schedule. I'm a junior right now, and I'm only taking 3 AP's. It would be 4 or 5, but since I moved I need to make up a bunch of credits I missed, which results in taking classes I would've taken earlier instead of other classes. And next year I would take 5 AP's, but none of the AP science classes at my school interest me and my counselor says I should take physics, and there are no more AP math classes for me to take. It sucks. Oh well.

Anyways, back to the subject of The Beatles... can someone provide me a solid answer as to whether or not McCartney is actually doing another tour? And if he is, can someone link me to tour dates?

pigonthewing82
03-13-2005, 06:27 PM
you should say youre gonna play some yellowcard and New found glory covers, and then play "Set the controls for the heart of the sun" or really F***ed up Band version of "Revolution 9". I dont know how you would do it but it would be awesome.

Also, I am a HUUUUUUUUUGE fan of the white album, And a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE fan of The Beatles, and i just wanted to say that in my opinion, "Wild Honey Pie" is probably one of the worst songs written. What do you think?

I don't mind Honey Pie. The only track I don't like is Ob-la-die Ob-la-da

Walrus Gumboot
03-13-2005, 07:04 PM
That's a pretty daunting schedule. I'm a junior right now, and I'm only taking 3 AP's. It would be 4 or 5, but since I moved I need to make up a bunch of credits I missed, which results in taking classes I would've taken earlier instead of other classes. And next year I would take 5 AP's, but none of the AP science classes at my school interest me and my counselor says I should take physics, and there are no more AP math classes for me to take. It sucks. Oh well.

Anyways, back to the subject of The Beatles... can someone provide me a solid answer as to whether or not McCartney is actually doing another tour? And if he is, can someone link me to tour dates?


I just checked a couple hours ago, they haven't released the dates yet, but I'm pretty sure there will be one...

Did you take the SATS yesterday morning too? I got the essay about Majority Rule or something, I didn't think it was so bad

MalcolmYoungRock
03-13-2005, 08:07 PM
I don't mind Honey Pie. The only track I don't like is Ob-la-die Ob-la-da

Desmond owns a barrow in the market place....

I like Ob La Di.

I think it's catchy, as stated in the CR thread.

DeusExMachina
03-13-2005, 10:47 PM
I just checked a couple hours ago, they haven't released the dates yet, but I'm pretty sure there will be one...

Did you take the SATS yesterday morning too? I got the essay about Majority Rule or something, I didn't think it was so bad

Haven't taken the new one yet, but I'm pissed that I have to. I did so well on the old one...

I will perform many many sexual favors to get tickets to the McCartney show.

ultraspamboy
03-13-2005, 11:23 PM
I like Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da for being catchy, but I think they should have traveled back in time and released it in maybe 1964. It's just not later Beatles material.

How on earth could someone do Revolution 9 live? I guess you could get like 20 people with microphones to do the vocals and the crowds and then a small orchestra and things and a lot of effects on stuff. People wouldn't get it though, and they'd want it to stop after about two minutes.

That would be so cool to have like an all-the-time school coffeehouse. People need it bad. Everyone is so tired these days. I probably wouldn't go there much though because I don't want to be a caffeine addict, I don't want to blow tons of money on coffee, I don't want to stain my teeth with years of coffee drinking, and I don't want to have to be always running out of class to take a leak.

Sgt._Joker
03-13-2005, 11:53 PM
Oasis did a live cover of I am the Walrus with no orcestra or piano, it was pretty ****ing amazing.

clown_phobia
03-14-2005, 01:13 AM
Oasis did a live cover of I am the Walrus with no orcestra or piano, it was pretty ****ing amazing.

yeah! I've heard it on the radio, it was great! I really like the part at the end when there's no vocals and they just keep jamming.

Sgt._Joker
03-14-2005, 01:21 AM
i got them performing it live on a dvd ;)

clown_phobia
03-14-2005, 01:26 AM
I think that live cover was an oasis b-side, and now it's on a b-sides album.

GeorgeHarrison
03-14-2005, 07:19 AM
I don't mind Honey Pie. The only track I don't like is Ob-la-die Ob-la-da

Ob-la-di ob-la-da. I love this song. Its a nice catchy upbeat tune. Everytime i hear the song it makes me want to stand up and do the twist for some reason,

DeusExMachina
03-14-2005, 02:13 PM
I don't have much Oasis, but I like what I've heard. Some of it is a bit too repetitive for me, but maybe that's because I only have like 8 or 10 or so songs by them.

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 05:37 PM
Has anyone heard that Lennon/Ono/Zappa/Mothers of Invention recording? I used to have it.. I will have to look for it

DeusExMachina
03-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Sounds interesting... not sure how well the combination would work though.

MYR
03-14-2005, 05:54 PM
Ob-la-di ob-la-da. I love this song. Its a nice catchy upbeat tune. Everytime i hear the song it makes me want to stand up and do the twist for some reason,

And Twist and Shout doesn't make you do that??

Which is by the way a brilliant song.

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 06:01 PM
Sounds interesting... not sure how well the combination would work though.

It includes 16 minute tracks of Yoko screaming so... not too good but it has a really cool version of Cold Turkey

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 06:12 PM
Ob la di, Ob la da is an awesome song. It's so catchy, and you just have to sing along.


16 minute tracks of Yoko screaming^? I'll pass...

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 06:14 PM
Hey RockJunkie, haven't seen you in a while

Yeah it was a pretty crappy album: Sometime In New York City

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 06:20 PM
Yeah, I was here for about 30 seconds on Friday, and other than that, I probably haven't been here for a week and a half. :( Too much softball.

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 06:27 PM
Ob la di, Ob la da is an awesome song. It's so catchy, and you just have to sing along.


16 minute tracks of Yoko screaming^? I'll pass...

Meh maybe it will grow on me, there was a time I didn't like Pink Floyd, :upset: I had no soul at that time.

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 06:33 PM
Meh maybe it will grow on me, there was a time I didn't like Pink Floyd, :upset: I had no soul at that time.

I hated the dead until a few mere months ago :upset:

MYR
03-14-2005, 06:34 PM
And then you saw the Classic Rock thread.

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 06:38 PM
Naw I got American Beauty before I even joined the forums

But Sgt. Pepper's coverted me to CR :D

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 06:48 PM
I wish I could say the Beatles got me into classic rock, but Led Zeppelin gets credit for that.

blue3
03-14-2005, 06:55 PM
^ Same.. Led Zeppelin got me into classic rock

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 07:00 PM
The Rolling Stones got me started, but the Beatles were who got me to look for more.

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 07:02 PM
Yea I mean I always liked the stuff I heard on the radio, but it wasn't till I heard Communication Breakdown that I was hooked.

Walrus Gumboot
03-14-2005, 07:07 PM
I always beleived that LZ I has the power to convert almost anyone

blue3
03-14-2005, 07:08 PM
Immigrant Song got me listening to more classic rock.. A Hard Day's Night or All My Loving got me listening to more Beatles songs

ultimaterocker
03-14-2005, 07:53 PM
the best beatles song is twist and shout its ****in amazing

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 08:10 PM
Twist and Shout is so much fun to play. I always have to jump around while playing it. :cool:

Johnnymario
03-14-2005, 08:12 PM
Let It Be = musical geniou snever to be tapped into ever again.. whcih makes me sad

DeusExMachina
03-14-2005, 08:13 PM
I got into classic rock listening to The Beatles and Chuck Berry. Aaand... Twist And Shout is good, but not amazing.

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 08:20 PM
Let It Be = musical geniou snever to be tapped into ever again.. whcih makes me sad


I'm don't quite agree with that. Let It Be is great, but not that great.

Krabsworth
03-14-2005, 09:14 PM
heres a random fact on the beatles: in 1968, george harrison invited jim morrison from the doors to a recording session of the beatles, if you are to go into the tape archives at abbey road of the beatles, you can hear jim morrison singing back up on "happiness is a warm gun", i got that in the Jim Morrison biography.

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx
03-14-2005, 09:24 PM
That's interesting. I'd like to hear that. Nice avatar, too. :thumb:

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 09:27 PM
That's interesting. I'd like to hear that. Nice avatar, too. :thumb:

Yea I love that picture, when I got Blonde on Blonde I just took that outta the case and stuck it on my wall.

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 09:31 PM
heres a random fact on the beatles: in 1968, george harrison invited jim morrison from the doors to a recording session of the beatles, if you are to go into the tape archives at abbey road of the beatles, you can hear jim morrison singing back up on "happiness is a warm gun", i got that in the Jim Morrison biography.

I think you'll find if you look hard enough you'll find just as I did that the Beatles did jams with just about every band. Same thing with Hendrix.

PreludeToDisaster
03-14-2005, 09:44 PM
the beatles are okay...

Seafroggys
03-14-2005, 09:45 PM
Twist and Shout IMO ultimate dance number.

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 10:00 PM
Twist and Shout IMO ultimate dance number.

True, well unless you concider the stoner "sway" a dance, then I would have to say Fool on the Hill.

ultraspamboy
03-14-2005, 11:29 PM
the beatles are okay...

What of theirs have you heard? A lot of people who don't have much familiarity think of the Beatles as "Yellow Submarine" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", good songs, but not representative of all of their works. If you're into harder rock, try listening to "Helter Skelter". It's on the White Album.

pigonthewing82
03-14-2005, 11:39 PM
What of theirs have you heard? A lot of people who don't have much familiarity think of the Beatles as "Yellow Submarine" and "I Wanna Hold Your Hand", good songs, but not representative of all of their works. If you're into harder rock, try listening to "Helter Skelter". It's on the White Album.

Wow thats like an exact echo of what I tell people who don't give the Beatles enough credit as a rock band.

I use the same songs as examples too, kinda spooky.

ultraspamboy
03-14-2005, 11:52 PM
Well yeah. I'd love to do Helter Skelter to some punks or something, see what they think. People who aren't really into music might not be able to tell it's not punk.

I use Yellow Submarine mainly because one of my friends laughed and said that song when I said I liked the Beatles. I was actually listening to Revolver at the time so it was a little eerie. Many people think of either the early days or Ringo's songs when they think of the Beatles. I like Ringo's songs and definitely appreciate the dynamic he added to the band, but I like the other guys' stuff better.

Schyma
03-14-2005, 11:54 PM
heres a random fact on the beatles: in 1968, george harrison invited jim morrison from the doors to a recording session of the beatles, if you are to go into the tape archives at abbey road of the beatles, you can hear jim morrison singing back up on "happiness is a warm gun", i got that in the Jim Morrison biography.
That is not entirly true some experts claim he singing but his name is not in the credits of that session. Good job on reading Steven Davis and nice avatar. :)

Schyma
03-14-2005, 11:58 PM
I think you'll find if you look hard enough you'll find just as I did that the Beatles did jams with just about every band. Same thing with Hendrix.
I have one bootleg where Syd Barrett (with Pink Floyd) are actully playing with them its called "What a Shame Mary Jane".

TantalusTalosHaze
03-15-2005, 12:01 AM
my beatle top ten (and solo careers)

1-cold turkey
2-reveloution 1
3-all in the life
4-back in the ussr
5-sgt peppers
6-i am the walrus
7-lucy in the sky
8-something
9-imagine
10-twist and shout

eh? eh?

who would win, John Lennon VS Kurt Cobain in a sword fight?

john lennon = best beatle

Schyma
03-15-2005, 12:06 AM
my beatle top ten (and solo careers)

1-cold turkey
2-reveloution 1
3-all in the life
4-back in the ussr
5-sgt peppers
6-i am the walrus
7-lucy in the sky
8-something
9-imagine
10-twist and shout

eh? eh?

who would win, John Lennon VS Kurt Cobain in a sword fight?

john lennon = best beatle
Worst post ever congrats... :thumb:

Sombody should smack you for using John Lennon in the same sentence with that guy too. :angry:

Seafroggys
03-15-2005, 12:15 AM
Wow...Imagine, 9, behind all of those. Seriously.......

All in the Life? You mean A Day in the Life :lol:

That's whats happening in the world of p2p mp3 sharing....**** people with their mislabeling.

clown_phobia
03-15-2005, 01:17 AM
They recorded Let it Be before Abbey Road. Abbey Road is their swan song, so to say. Let It Be was a time when they all hated each other and they knew they were breaking up so they left Let it Be and recorded the amazing Abbey Road. The song "the end" was going to be the last song on the last beatles album.

Schyma
03-15-2005, 01:26 AM
I find it slightly ironic that the 1st song on their last album is named "Come Together".

mprules
03-15-2005, 01:29 AM
yer, oh well, let it be has its good points too

Schyma
03-15-2005, 01:33 AM
I think "Across The Universe" strikes one of Lennon's lyrical high points.

GeorgeHarrison
03-15-2005, 07:22 AM
It's a shame they went out with Let It Be, but I don't think that album's really musical genius...it's underrated, as it gets criticised loads compared with a whole load of their other work, but it's definitely not in the same league as their greatest albums. I've always wondered where the band would have gone had they stayed together though. :-/

I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.

Woodstock
03-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Let it Be is a good rock album, Abbey Road is better.

pigonthewing82
03-15-2005, 02:26 PM
I have one bootleg where Syd Barrett (with Pink Floyd) are actully playing with them its called "What a Shame Mary Jane".

I have that one too, I think their best jam with another artist is Day Tripper with Hendrix, not just because its Hendrix, but because of what he did with the song. Its my new god.

DeusExMachina
03-15-2005, 03:31 PM
Hendrix did Day Tripper with The Beatles? I've heard a lot of bootlegs of Hendrix performing Beatles stuff live, but I was unaware he did any of it actually with The Beatles...

Schyma
03-15-2005, 03:38 PM
Hendrix did Day Tripper with The Beatles? I've heard a lot of bootlegs of Hendrix performing Beatles stuff live, but I was unaware he did any of it actually with The Beatles...
Me either. Do they actully sing with him?

eghed
03-15-2005, 03:59 PM
I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.


Well Let it Be was the only the last album released, the last recorded album was Abbey Road which is great one to have be the last.

eghed
03-15-2005, 04:16 PM
I have one bootleg where Syd Barrett (with Pink Floyd) are actully playing with them its called "What a Shame Mary Jane".


are you sure? because i've heard two versions of What's the new Mary Jane
the one on Anthology and an acoustic one. neither of which had pink floyd

Schyma
03-15-2005, 04:19 PM
I have that one too, I think their best jam with another artist is Day Tripper with Hendrix, not just because its Hendrix, but because of what he did with the song. Its my new god.
I just downloaded it I dont think its the Beatles it sounds like the other 2. (forgot their names?) I could be wrong. Good cover.

Schyma
03-15-2005, 04:23 PM
are you sure? because i've heard two versions of What's the new Mary Jane
the one on Anthology and an acoustic one. neither of which had pink floyd
Well the one Im talking about is a crappy bootleg where they are all are so stoned their laughing in it and you can here Syd's voice.

DeusExMachina
03-15-2005, 08:59 PM
Schyma, mad props on the icon. That's such a good movie.

pigonthewing82
03-15-2005, 09:13 PM
I just downloaded it I dont think its the Beatles it sounds like the other 2. (forgot their names?) I could be wrong. Good cover.

Yea it could be, well either way I also have a cover of them doing Yesterday with him, and I know its all of them because they are teaching it to him before the jam, whitch was intesting to hear.

clown_phobia
03-16-2005, 03:36 AM
I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.

Let it be was going to be called, 'Get Back' and Paul wanted it to be their 'back to their roots' album. It was going to be a rock and roll record.

coolidgeALL
03-16-2005, 06:43 AM
Let it be, one of my fav. albums

Sgt._Joker
03-16-2005, 07:41 AM
I dont think that album is musical genious either, but you have to look at its strong points. I mean, it was their only real TRUE rock and roll albums. All their albums had alot of pop/psychadelic elements to it. This album was basically just srtaight up rock. (except for across the universe, which was eerie and wierd) When you listen to the album you see alot of things like 12-bar-blues, and alot of things you would orient with rock and roll. In my opinion, it is a very good record, but i wish it wasnt their last.

Beatles True Rcok albumns:

Please Please Me
Help
Hard Days Night
Rubber Soul
Let It be


*apologises if i forgot anything

Sho
03-16-2005, 12:29 PM
My mom owns Hard Day's Night, and it's what really got me interested in music at all. Before that record (yes, my mom had one of the original pressings of the record, and a turntable to play it on), I never listened to anything outside of the radio. Now, I listen to a huge range of stuff. To me, that's the album that changed my outlook on music.

Now, I've heard alot about The White Album, but is there really anything beyond the hype? I've never actually listened to it.

Benzum
03-16-2005, 12:38 PM
The Beatles?

Ultimate Respect

JamesPatrickPageZoSo
03-16-2005, 03:13 PM
Yea it could be, well either way I also have a cover of them doing Yesterday with him, and I know its all of them because they are teaching it to him before the jam, whitch was intesting to hear.


where is this found, i'd love to hear it

DeusExMachina
03-16-2005, 04:11 PM
Now, I've heard alot about The White Album, but is there really anything beyond the hype? I've never actually listened to it.

It's good. But not jawdropping or anything. Personally, one of the weaker post-66 releases.

pigonthewing82
03-16-2005, 04:13 PM
where is this found, i'd love to hear it

I got it from a friend, but if he signs on before I leave I'll ask him.

pigonthewing82
03-16-2005, 04:18 PM
It's good. But not jawdropping or anything. Personally, one of the weaker post-66 releases.

I disagree I think its one of their best. I mean its hard to say because the Beatles went through so many different changes what one fan conciders to be jawdropping another could concider it only ok. I feel its a good start if you like the more rock and roll Beatles (though Abby Road is better).

funkybeeatch14
03-16-2005, 04:24 PM
I like anything past Rubber Soul, I'm not really a fan of the earlier Beatles. Other than that, I love the White Album and Abbey Road.

DonMancini
03-16-2005, 05:54 PM
I've had Eleanor Rigby stuck in my head for a day now... hum

Schyma
03-16-2005, 06:12 PM
Schyma, mad props on the icon. That's such a good movie.
Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)

pigonthewing82
03-16-2005, 07:02 PM
Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)

I actually rented the movie not to long ago, but in the same rent rented Garage Days, and that consumed the whole time I had them for, but I've probally listened to the sound track more times then I can count.

Krabsworth
03-16-2005, 07:06 PM
Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)

i saw it on amc or somethingthing, i wish they would play it more, cuz i dont own it

Sgt._Joker
03-17-2005, 12:48 AM
I would say that Please Please Me is a pure pop album personally, although it does have rock moments on. I don't own Help! or A Hard Day's Night, but from all accounts I'd put them in that sort of category as well. The Beatles are very hard to classify as a band though.

by todays standards, yes,except for I saw her standing there and Twist and Shout

blue3
03-17-2005, 02:50 AM
Twist and Shout's a great song..

PinkFreud
03-17-2005, 02:34 PM
Thanx Im glad someone has seen it. :)
i own it. its great. jack nicholson is one of my favorite actors ever. and the soundtracks awesome.

DeusExMachina
03-17-2005, 03:53 PM
The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.

Schyma
03-17-2005, 03:55 PM
The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.
It left me with my mouth open...it was so sad. :upset:

B0nz0
03-17-2005, 04:02 PM
The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.

yes they were different. 1. the beatles had talent
2. the beatles weren't just created by a producer for a couple of easy hits and then dropped like a rock (the way the backstreet boys were). they were an actual band (well except ringo, who was just thrown in there by a producer, but he worked out right?)
3. while poppy, the beatles were able to create decent albums, with a number of good songs, while backstreet boys maybe had one or two "good song" per album.

DeusExMachina
03-17-2005, 04:57 PM
I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.

Schyma
03-17-2005, 05:04 PM
I specifically said not musically speaking. All your examples are about musical difference. The Beatles had a magazine they published, were worshipped by little girls, their concerts weren't actually musical events so much as people being like, "omg, leyk, teh beatles lololol!!" much like Backstreet Boys concerts. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles, including their early stuff, but I fail to see how people can argue that they weren't essentially a boy band up until around Rubber Soul.
What would we have done without Dr. Robert and the speicial plant?

Walrus Gumboot
03-17-2005, 06:41 PM
The ending was a little messed up, personally. But that acid trip scene... crazy.

As for Please Please Me, I'd say it's a pop album by today's standards, and probably by 60's standards as well. I mean, compare The Beatles pre-66 to The Backstreet Boys... was it really all that different? I'm not talking musically, we all know they were different musically.

The subject of the songs in their pre-Rubber Soul albums (lyrically speaking) were similar to the boy band's and earlier rock'n roll. Its the basic "Boy meets girl" or "boy breaks up with girl" format that was broken after Rubber Soul that has been comming back, especially in the late 90's.. It's kinda sad