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El_Goodo
11-19-2005, 10:09 AM
I borrowed the Yellow Submarine DVD from a friend today. Has anyone seen it?
I love that show :) bought it a while ago. The blue meanie leader is actually freightening.
But EVERYONE LISTEN UP! google video found me a gold mine!
The Entire Magical Mystery Tour Movie (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2229397285502593503&q=magical+mystery+tour)
Jacaran
11-19-2005, 12:27 PM
sorry bout my long comment had to get most of my ideas in there kinda wish jacran would come at me with some hard facts to prove me wrong tho i doubt he will since im understudying in music and i pretty much know what im talking about im not saying their the best of all time evryone has diffrent tastes but the beatles are the greatest its just that simple people, get away from the whole beatlemania syndrome and actually study their music, look at the big picture, they are the most influential revolutionary rock n roll media of all time!
You want some hard facts?
1-D, ya that’s right I said it. One sided. So they had their early pop years, but were did they go? Right to psychedelic, while bands like The Who and the Stones went psychedelic for an album or two and then moved on to Blues or Hard Rock while the Beatles found a comfy spot and stayed there, and even then they didn't make the best Pop/Psychedelic album that award goes to the Zombies me thinks. And exactly how many "Midnight Ramblers" do the Beatles have, or how about some "Wild Horses"? Not alot. I'm thinking they have maybe 1-2 songs over 6 mins off the top of my head. Not that length matters at all or anything they just like to stay in the comfort zone and not take risks! (I think thats my mose flamable[?] line right there)
Musically? (Since my argument is more towards the Stones as being the best, I'll use them as examples) The Stones have them beat easily but maybe that’s because they have one more band member. Keith Richards has made some of the catchiest riffs of all time, not saying George or John haven't but I dunno "I Can't Get No" sticks in my head a lot longer then "Something" or "While My Guitar Gently Weeps". And Brian Jones could play any instrument George could play if not more, and then if I want to through in Mick Taylor who is one of the most underrated guitarists of all time or Ron Wood who is a decent guitarist that just blows them out of the water. Mick and Brian are both better then George. Paul and Bill are probably even on the bass since bass in both bands wasn't exactly impressive. While many people think that Charlie is an average drummer he was actually quiet impressive, he played in a jazz band in the 80's that showcased what he could play given the right setting, how good of sounding would Keith Moon have been in the Stones or how about John Bonham? Not very good they didn't need booming drums they just needed someone to keep rhythm and make the song fit together. Ringo? Well hell as John once said "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles." So I think there's no argument there.
The only reason the Stones aren't held as high regard is because of the press in the 60's liked to make them sound like out of control kids who were snobby because they were in a band. The police were always trying to bust Mick and Keith, which gave them a lot of bad press when they did finally find drugs on them. While the press loved to cream all over the Beatles, even when John said they were bigger then Jesus it really wasn't that big of deal, if the Stones would’ve done it they would've got the boot from the record company or something along those lines.
If Altamont would have happened to the Beatles the press would've shrugged it off as some out of control kid getting in a fight with a Hells Angel but after it happened to the Stones people were immediately boycotting the Stones and protesting saying that they provoked this in some way. Politicians were promising people that the Stones would never play in their city left and right.
Influences? Well okay you got me there, the Beatles are one of the most influential bands of all time but so are the Stones in a more subtle way. But just think of this, would Iggy Pop be the same if there were no Stones? No, do you know why? Moves, Mick had the moves and many front men started after they saw what it could do to a crowd, what it could do to a show. Mick was the first non-black guy to be dancing "black" moves. While "white" bands like the Beatles stood around and sang Mick was on stage strutting his stuff making it more acceptable for the Jim Morrison's and Steven Tyler's to do this in the future. And what would Pete Townshend be without his Windmill? Or should I say Keith's windmill although he wasn't even aware he was doing it, Pete has said many times that once when he saw the Stones in concert and during the warm-ups Keith was waving his arm around. Which gave him the idea for it.
Now CD wise, the Beatles released 10 great albums; Rubber Soul, Sgt. Peppers, Revolver, Let It Be, Abbey Road, The White Album, Please Please Me, With The Beatles, Help! and A Hard Days Night.
Well the Stones released an equally great 10 albums; Exile On Main Street, Sticky Fingers, Flowers, Some Girls, The Rolling Stones Now!, Out Of Our Heads, Let It Bleed, Aftermath, Beggars Banquet, and Between the Buttons.
But if you take the Stones best album against the Beatles I think that I'd take Exile over and Beatles CD.
So in conclusion, I'm a Stones fan boy and that was a major rant. And I'd love to try to see your point because up till about 2 years ago I thought the Beatles were the greatest.
Sorry guys, I just couldn't help myself! I do love the Beatles don't get me wrong, and I'm sure I'm a lone ranger in this "battle", especially in the Beatles thread.
EDIT: But of course it's mostly all a matter of opinions. Opinions are really quiet annoying.
TheShaneOMac
11-19-2005, 12:41 PM
To me the Stones were just a rock n' roll band. A great rock n' roll band but still just a rock band. The Beatles were more than just a band. They were an idea, a movement, and a symbol. They summed up a generation.
Not only were the Bealtes more influential, revolutionized music, came up with amazing recording ideas (backwards guitar, concept albums, flowing tracks) they were better musically (complex and original melodies/harmonies, intricate bass lines, countless varied styles of music, odd time signatures, many key and tempo changes within songs and guitar virtuosity) and they were better lyricists.... and had four front men(three of which could play every instrument under the sun).
The Stones were known for writing catchy 3-chord hard rock with crude solos and lots of attitude. Don't get me wrong I love the Stones and think they are amazing but I do not think that they really compare.
TheShaneOMac
11-19-2005, 01:04 PM
Jacaran, the Beatles had more trouble with the police than the Stones could even think about. Certain members were banned from the US because of drug raids for Christ sakes. They had legal problems up the wazoo and more family problems than you can think of.
Also, please do not try to compare each member individually against each other, that is just plain stupid.
The Beatles took more risks musically than the Stones have. They experimented in pop, country, rockabilly, folk, R&B, hard rock, metal, psychedelia, blues, rock, soul, and eastern music.
Jacaran
11-19-2005, 01:07 PM
Jacaran, the Beatles had more trouble with the police than the Stones could even think about. Certain members were banned from the US because of drug raids for Christ sakes. They had legal problems up the wazoo and more family problems than you can think of.
Also, please do not try to compare each member individually against each other, that is just plain stupid.
Uh, no... The Stones were banned from Canada, and the US and Europe all in a range of 5 years, Keith Richards couldn't even get into the country for 2 years. Mick and Keith both spent about a week in Jail, Keith could've spent 4-5 years in jail but a blind girl they helped out. The Who had to play a benefit concert for them just so they could bail them out of jail one time. Saying the Beatles had more troubles is just stupid I could continue to give you examples for hours.
Well then in my opinion the members of the Stones > Beatles, happy?
And as for your first post, all opinions.
And what Concept album are you talking about? I know its not Sgt. Peppers because that has to be the weakest form of a concept album ever.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 01:13 PM
The Beatles took more risks musically than the Stones have. They experimented in pop, country, rockabilly, folk, R&B, hard rock, metal, psychedelia, blues, rock, soul, and eastern music.
All of which the Stones did and for 40 years the Stones have been doing it... but when did the Beatles experiment with Metal? Helter Skelter? Revolution? Uh, no thats called Hard Rock.
TheShaneOMac
11-19-2005, 01:14 PM
Uh, no... The Stones were banned from Canada, and the US and Europe all in a range of 5 years, Keith Richards couldn't even get into the country for 2 years. Mick and Keith both spent about a week in Jail, Keith could've spent 4-5 years in jail but a blind girl they helped out. The Who had to play a benefit concert for them just so they could bail them out of jail one time. Saying the Beatles had more troubles is just stupid I could continue to give you examples for hours.
Read both the Stones and Beatles biography, like I have, and see how ****ed up the Beatles lives were. You would be shocked.
TheShaneOMac
11-19-2005, 01:15 PM
All of which the Stones did and for 40 years the Stones have been doing it... but when did the Beatles experiment with Metal? Helter Skelter? Revolution? Uh, no thats called Hard Rock.
Yes, Helter Skelter was the first metal song and if you don't believe that it is you have to admit that it was the first blue print for metal.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 01:16 PM
Read both the Stones and Beatles biography, like I have, and see how ****ed up the Beatles lives were. You would be shocked.
Uh, I have... and I've read biographys on every member of the Beatles minus Ringo and every member of the Stones minus Billy and Charlie. And I really wasn't that shocked.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 01:19 PM
Yes, Helter Skelter was the first metal song and if you don't believe that it is you have to admit that it was the first blue print for metal.
First blue print maybe... but at the time the White Album came out the Yardbirds were done and had released many blue prints for heavy metal, the same goes with Cream and Led Zeppelin were in the works of Led Zeppelin at the time.
wezman2k
11-19-2005, 01:29 PM
I haven't heard much other than Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Abbey Road, and the White Album. It's good stuff though.
Get Rubber Soul. It's my favorite Beatles album.
Pure bliss.
robo2448
11-19-2005, 01:49 PM
I don't think it's fair to compare the Beatles and the Stones. I love them both. I love The Beatles a little more, but no one, not even the Beatles was as good as the Stones as making just straight up rock and roll hits. The Beatles had a ton of problems, within the band and without it. The Stones were definitely the more rebellious group, but I think The Beatles had about as much controversy swirling around them.
I also think the Beatles had the edge in creativity. Their Satanic Majesties Request was very psychadelic and experimental, but asides from that the Stones didn't venture far from blues-rock and the occassional country-rock song. The Beatles experimented with many different sounds. Now you could argue that the Stones didn't need to experiment because their blues-rock formula was incredibly successful for them and their wasn't much reason to change it. In fact, when the Stones did start experimenting a little later with disco and reggae is pretty much where they started declining, so it was a good thing they stuck to primarily blues-rock. They had a perfect blueprint for success, and if it ain't broken, don't fix it. The Beatles did experiment, and it seems to me that no matter what type of music they experimented with, it sounded good. So I think the Beatles were more creative and experimental, but The Rolling Stones strategy was working for them and they had no reason to experiment.
It's really impossible to compare the band's individual talents. Drumming wise, Charlie Watts based a lot of his drumming off of Ringo, and Ringo said that Charlie was his favorite drummer ever. So they were both extremely similar and very, very solid drummers even if they didn't play like Keith Moon or Ginger Baker. I think Bill Wymann was a pretty average bassist to be honest. Good, but nothing special. McCartney had a few very memorable basslines and in addition to being an excellent bassist, was a great piano player, singer, and songwriter, and played a bunch of other instruments too.
Guitar is where it gets really difficult. Keith is the greatest riff writer of all-time IMO. Brian Jones was pretty good, but did not play as many instruments as George. And who brought the sitar into rock music? George's sitar work inspired Brian Jones to take it up and come up with the brilliant intro to Paint it Black. Mick Taylor is an amazing blues guitarist and one of my favorite guitarists ever. George is probably one of my 3 favorite guitarists ever (hence the George avatar). Actually, I'm not going to get into guitar anymore because I love all these guys and I don't know how I can argue against any of them.
Songwriting wise, Keith wrote some very memorable guitar riffs. Lyric-wise, I prefer Paul and John's and even George's to Mick. Mick wrote some excellent lyrics but I just love The Beatles songwriting. Having said that, nobody to write rock albums like The Stones (Street Fighting Man, Satisfaction Sympathy for the Devil...
I am a hardcore fanboy of both of these bands and though I slightly prefer The Beatles, The Stones were very, very close to them IMO. You can't discount that these bands were great friends and had a friendly competition going so they influenced each other a lot in their sounds. Wow I've been typing this out for a really long time and I've realized that it pretty much adds absolutely nothing to this thread. Both bands are just incredible and have a lot in common but also have very distinct styles if that makes sense.
np- Jumpin' Jack Flash:cool:
Edit- And yes Rubber Soul really owns. First Beatles album that I bought on my own. Get it!
TheShaneOMac
11-19-2005, 01:55 PM
I know this question has probalby been asked before but i really want to get into Harrison's solo work. Can anyone give me some song and album recommendations?
robo2448
11-19-2005, 01:57 PM
I know this question has probalby been asked before but i really want to get into Harrison's solo work. Can anyone give me some song and album recommendations?
All Things Must Pass. George Harrison's death anniversary is coming up and I'm doing a write-up on him for it. I'll upload ATMP and send it out to anyone who's interested when I post the write-up. He died on November 29th so I'll post my write-up and send out some of his solo stuff then.
Brainwashed is excellent aswell.
<3 Jeff Lynne for producing his stuff.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-19-2005, 02:26 PM
All things must pass is, as previosily mentioned, IMO Geroge best solo album. I have always liked Paul's solo work best, and Johns is ok, but George had some decent stuff too. Not Guilty is a good song.
Schyma
11-19-2005, 02:27 PM
I don't care how much better the Stones were at their instruments or how much catchier their riffs were, YOU CAN'T BEAT STRAIGHT UP BEAUTIFUL SONGWRITTING! Stones were good musicians but they weren't great. As for songwritting, the Stones made some extremly catchy and simple riffs but can you honestly compare a catchy riff to such songs as "Strawberry Fields" or "Across the Universe" which overpower you with their overwelming beauty? I think not. The Beatles kill them in originality aswell. The Stones never created something that was truely original as for the Beatles, they basically created Psychedelia with Revolver. The Stones created a new attitude an attitude that would be later hailed as Rock and Roll but after basing themselves around the whole "bad boy" Rock and Roll image for almost their entire career they instantly sold out with Satanic Majesties Request and after the Psychedelic trend died down (a trend that the Beatles started) they went right back to that bad boy image as if nothing had happened. I like the Stones but you honestly can't compare them to the Beatles and win period.
Beatles > Stones (easily)
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-19-2005, 02:31 PM
And lets not forget that the Stones first #1, I wanna be your Man, was written by The Beatles.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 02:40 PM
I don't care how much better the Stones were at their instruments or how much catchier their riffs were, YOU CAN'T BEAT STRAIGHT UP BEAUTIFUL SONGWRITTING! Stones were good musicians but they weren't great. As for songwritting, the Stones made some extremly catchy and simple riffs but can you honestly compare a catchy riff to such songs as "Strawberry Fields" or "Across the Universe" which overpower you with their overwelming beauty? I think not. The Beatles kill them in originality aswell. The Stones never created something that was truely original as for the Beatles, they basically created Psychedelia with Revolver. The Stones created a new attitude an attitude that would be later hailed as Rock and Roll but after basing themselves around the whole "bad boy" Rock and Roll image for almost their entire career they instantly sold out with Satanic Majesties Request and after the Psychedelic trend died down (a trend that the Beatles started) they went right back to that bad boy image as if nothing had happened. I like the Stones but you honestly can't compare them to the Beatles and win period.
Beatles > Stones (easily)
Shoo, go back to the Pink Floyd thread you!
The Stones wrote beautiful songs, Wild Horses? Paint It Black? Angie? Under My Thumb?
Arg! /runs back to Rolling Stone thread.... oh shi nm...
Schyma
11-19-2005, 03:49 PM
:lol:
I'd give you rep for making such a risky argument in the Beatles thread but it says I have to spread first. Sorry....:p
Robo gets rep though.
Paul McCartney in 4 hours. :D
robo2448
11-19-2005, 03:55 PM
Robo gets rep though.
Paul McCartney in 4 hours. :D
:cool:
Have fun at McCartney, it should be awesome.
Does anyone have any Ringo solo albums? I've always been a little curious about his solo career. I know John, George, and Paul all played on his solo albums but don't really know anything else about his solo career. It Don't Come Easy is an awesome song though.
<3 Jeff Lynne for producing his stuff.
<3 Jeff Lynne for being one of the raddest musicians in existence, period.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 04:17 PM
I can't hear you! :(
The second I saw you posted in here I knew what'd you say. Your so predictable Med. :P
Whoa, Paul in 4 hours I totally missed the details, how close are you? I take it its in Houston? Who's opening?
Lets see, I have one Ringo album it was pretty boring lemme see if I can find it then I'll get the name up. And I never knew George Harrison co-wrote "It Don't Come Easy" with him, I always figured it was John.
And I never knew George Harrison co-wrote "It Don't Come Easy" with him, I always figured it was John.
I think Ringo sung it on the Concert for George. I could be wrong, though.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 04:23 PM
Ya he did, I've seen it on the commercials I think he looks really funny in it singing behind his drum set, it made me laugh actually. I'm not even sure why.
Schyma
11-19-2005, 04:32 PM
Yes, it's in Houston, I'm about 10 miles away and I have no clue whose opening. Who usualy opens for him?
Seafroggys
11-19-2005, 05:17 PM
McCartney was great....
and man the four year anniversary is coming. I can't believe its been that long ago, I was a freshman in high school when one of the Gods fell to the earth and perished.
El_Goodo
11-19-2005, 05:48 PM
No one can say The Stones are more rock and roll
Let me tell you a story of the beatles early days...when they played in the cavern. They played for many many hours straight each day (over 5). Covering Rock and Roll classics such as Chuck Berry songs, and Little Richard songs.
They all slept in the same room which was very tight for the four of them, (two bunkbeds), and George lost his virginity while all the other beatles were in the room. They clapped...
And on stage they had to eat, and sometimes fall asleep behind the piano while playing because they played so long. And they had to deal with drunken bums who climbed up on stage...once John who was eating on stage threw a knife to scare the guy, before kicking him in the head and off the stage.
And there were plenty of other beatings given and recieved back in those days, especially for there early bass players, who were to slow to get away from the "teddy boys."
And when it comes to Rock N' Roll voices, John's voice when he was singing a rock n' roll song could sound more rock than Jaggers (example: Yer Blues), and McCartney when he wanted too could belt out a great rock song (example: Long Tall Sally (cover of Little Richard), and Helter Skelter).
But all you need to do is read up on the Beatles days in the Cavern to find out who paid there dues, and who was more "rock n' roll"
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 06:33 PM
Um, just to point out, that is just the same as what happened to the Stones, but there were riots also every night.
/shrugs.
Lunch
11-19-2005, 06:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that the scene was similar for other bands in that area and time period.
Blackbird
11-19-2005, 07:34 PM
I don't even know how The Rolling Stones can be compared to The Beatles.
I'm still trying to find what was so good about the Stones and i still haven't found it.
I listened to one of the Stones LP's again recently, i actually got bored.
The Beatles are actually far more rebellious than the stones, i mean, Lennon himself created so much controversy and pulled so much cheek. Also in the Philipines when there was immense chaos, the beatles were hiding with their luggage because they all had their personal weed stashes in their bags.
The stones are still touring and have accomplished far less in 40 years than the beatles did in 8... sad.
robo2448
11-19-2005, 07:40 PM
Lets see, I have one Ringo album it was pretty boring lemme see if I can find it then I'll get the name up. And I never knew George Harrison co-wrote "It Don't Come Easy" with him, I always figured it was John.
I always thought is was John too. The version of It Don't Come Easy on my computer says it's performed with John.
He performed it at the Concert for Bangladash too.
Just because the Beatles had a lot of controversy doesn't make them more rebellious. I think The Stones actually had the more rebellious attitude but they kind of stole it from The Beatles. The Beatles rebellious nature inspired bands like the Stones to act rebellious and I think the Stones took that "bad boy" image further. I still prefer the Beatles, but I think the Stones had more of the "bad boy" image.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 07:44 PM
EDIT: No comment on el idiota Blackbird.
I was reading George Harrisons credits for albums, boy did that guy produce albums like crazy. He did like 5 Ravi albums, I dont' have any of the ones he played on/produced. I might have to pick one up now.
jerry_soh_619
11-19-2005, 08:05 PM
the stones are not greater than the beatles, before there was stones there was beatles, simple as that! the beatles opened up the door for the british sound wich is basically creative bass lines around guitar verses and yes the stones rode the beatle coatail to fame and style, the beatles even supplyed them with their first hit!the stones werent even that good techinically they were loud and maybe thats why they got away with it using lots of distortion and pedal effects/delays its easy to be loud and its hard to be just right and good thats the main diffrence between the stones/zeppelin and the beatles, first of all i doubt youve listened to the early beatle tapes? pete best was a horrible drumber and yes john lennon did say that in defense of his freind (pete best) its no secret they grew up together along with stuart sutcliffe, so was john right about ringo? heck noooo, did ringo starr invent the rim shoot who knows but it was certainly more noticeable after ringo, i never heard a diffrent snair sound before the beatles it was all the same, and about the bass dude i can teach my little son the bassline to get off my cloud! no one will ever be better, more influential, than sir paul mccartney on the bass the beatle records are blueprints of how the bass is played today! and as far as singing goes jagger was great at just being loud and lyrically not very good, no way in hell are the stones better than the beatles nevermind greater, the beatles were far too advanced for the stones,defentaly more influential, and if jagger made it easy for singers to dance and jump around and shake their booty, i wonder what elvis might say to that!? the beatles were not good but great in every style they touched brit-pop,phsyco,blues-folk, the stones if anything stayed in their rock blues comfort zone, so what does that mean? not the same vision-creation and ideas than the beatles
rockinbass17
11-19-2005, 09:50 PM
Periods are your friend.
On the rebellion issue, if I was rioting I would rather blast Street Fighting Man or Jumpin' Jack Flash. If I were protesting peacefully, I would play Let It Be or Come Together.
Seafroggys
11-19-2005, 09:58 PM
If I were protesting, I'd use Gimme Some Truth.....
that song>all other protest songs
Carne Evil
11-19-2005, 10:25 PM
The Beatles and The Stones were both terriffic bands with great songs and fantastic carreers, but the stage persona of the Beatles and Stones did little to reflect the reality of their lives. The Stones came from rich families and were considered college bound. The Beatles grew up poor; John was a member of a gang and Paul almost quit the band just to make some spare change. If you want real rebels, you need look no farther than the Beatles.
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 10:39 PM
@ jerry_soh_619 it seems you’re the one who hasn't heard early Stones, distortion? Pedal effects? Easy to be loud, oh ya please. The Stones were already formed when the Beatles were making an impact on America so that doesn't even matter, the Beatles just happened to be lucky, they were nothing special in the beginning just another band from the UK who got lucky, right place right time. If the Beatles would've not came over a different band would've. Paul McCartney? Most influential bass player? Er, no. I play bass and as much as I like the Beatles he isn't even in my top 25 of bass players, I don't know of anyone (Famous and friend) who says they started playing because of him. He made simple bass lines any one could make. Nothing special at all.
Lyrically the Stones are bad? Er, again no. Ever heard of a song called "Gimme Shelter"? "Paint It Black"? Please saying the Stones lyrics are bad is like saying the Beatles had bad lyrics, it’s just ridiculous. No argument here about Lennon/McCartney being the greatest writing duo of all time, though. And Jagger just being loud? I'd like to see someone else sing "Ruby Tuesday" or "Under My Thumb" or "Lady Jane" as well as he did. Your argument is so ignorant it’s not funny, your making it sound like the Stones were some trashy bar band that never grew out of being a bar band.
Stones stayed in their blues-rock? Hm, I know Flowers isn't blues-rock, Their Satanic Majesties Request isn't blues-rock and I'm not going to use post-72 albums as examples just because everyone hates them (For the most part). Just like the Beatles were best at pop songs the Stones were best at blues, so of course they are going to stay in that area for a majority of their albums, while the Beatles really after Rubber Soul didn't experiment or change their sound from album to album. There really isn't a big difference between Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to White Album.
This thread for the past day or so turned into a Beatles Vs. Stones thread. :P
The Stones were middle class for the most part, Brian Jones was the most wealthy one, I believe. They only let Billy Wymann in because he had a nice amp, because they couldn't afford to buy one. None of them came from rich homes, middle class just like the Beatles.
Violent_Bill
11-19-2005, 10:43 PM
. There really isn't a big difference between Rubber Soul to Revolver to Sgt. Peppers to White Album.
:amaze:
Jacaranda
11-19-2005, 10:51 PM
:amaze:
Uh huh, I went there.
Lunch
11-19-2005, 11:52 PM
Everyone knows the Who are better than both of them.
Jacaranda
11-20-2005, 12:33 AM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10485499&postcount=175
Cough cough...
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10485499&postcount=175
Cough cough...
George Harrison can't even compare to Mike Einziger or Daron Malakian
That remark lost that kid all credibility he had.
Seafroggys
11-20-2005, 12:45 AM
thats it i'm starting a war
blue3
11-20-2005, 12:51 AM
killhim.
Oh well. Not everyone's gonna like the Beatles.
Everyone knows the Who are better than both of them.Liar.
Seafroggys
11-20-2005, 01:02 AM
Beatles>Who>..........Stones
Not to say they're bad......Paint it Black and Start Me Up kick ***.
But Lunch is half correct.....The Who kick ***, but not the BEatles' ;)
Jacaranda
11-20-2005, 01:05 AM
Beatles>Who>..........Stones
Not to say they're bad......Paint it Black and Start Me Up kick ***.
But Lunch is half correct.....The Who kick ***, but not the BEatles' ;)
I believe your ">'s" are on backwards.
Or maybe they aren't :upset:
magicbus
11-20-2005, 01:09 AM
Let's take the Beatles hating to another thread guys. This is getting sickening.
nirvana_33
11-20-2005, 01:39 AM
I saw Paul McCartney last Friday.
Just thought I would say that.
I love The Beatles.
Violent_Bill
11-20-2005, 01:56 AM
Whats up with his lack of touring anywhere near me? Maybe it was all those letters written in blood I sent him...
jerry_soh_619
11-20-2005, 04:25 AM
paul mccartny isent anything special huh? dude try playing baby shes a rich man, 1 after 909, all my loving, and lots more im a guitar player but im in a beatle tribute band and i can tell u that paul mccartney's basslines are way more techinicaly way more catchy way more grounbreaking that anyones of all time by my calculation the stones didnt perform their first gig till 62 hmmm by 62 the beatles already released the please please me album so your saying the stones didnt ride the beatle coatail? jaja hell yes they did, the beatles were a band like all the other in england? jajaja that just got lucky? jaja nah thats just straight up talking out of your *** there were other band like the kinks and the shadows but the beatles put it on the map! to say the stones didnt stray away too far away from the comfort zone is an understatement, fact is that was their bread and butter! the stones are a great band, but they are no beatles, they are neighter as big, as revolutionary or as influential as the beatles there can only be one ''greatest''and that honor goes to john,paul,george and ringo its just that simple
Schyma
11-20-2005, 10:38 AM
^Perhaps you'd like to back that up with more facts and less opinions?
Walrus Gumboot
11-20-2005, 11:11 AM
I believe your ">'s" are on backwards.
Or maybe they aren't :upset:
If it's possesive and the thing that is possesing is plural (Which it is, BeatleS), it is s'
On the other hand if it were just George Harrison's ***, it would be 's
EX:
George Harrison's ***
The Beatles' asses
:D
Jacaranda
11-20-2005, 12:43 PM
If it's possesive and the thing that is possesing is plural (Which it is, BeatleS), it is s'
On the other hand if it were just George Harrison's ***, it would be 's
EX:
George Harrison's ***
The Beatles' asses
:D
Huh? I think either I'm confused or you are! I was making a poor attempt to call to Stones the greatest again, just a little joke or what not. Because all his ">" were that way I told him to flip um around "<" that way! To show the Stones are the best!
But thanks for the grammar lesson I'm horrible at knowing were to put s' or 's, no joke's.
Carne Evil
11-20-2005, 01:30 PM
So...anyway, lets get back to the Beatles. Does anyone else own the Concert for Bangladesh (sp?) on dvd. Its great to see Gearge, Ringo, Clapton, Leon, and Bob Dylan all together in concert. I definately thought it was worth the money
El_Goodo
11-20-2005, 01:57 PM
So...anyway, lets get back to the Beatles. Does anyone else own the Concert for Bangladesh (sp?) on dvd. Its great to see Gearge, Ringo, Clapton, Leon, and Bob Dylan all together in concert. I definately thought it was worth the money
I own it :) Ringo's song is sweet. Did you watch the documentary? Haha it said Eric Clapton didnt show up for any of the rehersals and played perfectley at the show. And also Dylan just walked on stage when he wanted to play.
Lunch
11-20-2005, 11:04 PM
I'm glad no one had a heart attack over my comment. I was expecting someone to freak out.
blue3
11-20-2005, 11:07 PM
It's the internet.
Jacaranda
11-20-2005, 11:08 PM
Oh quiet the contrary I freaked out so much I lost control and couldn't even type.
Lunch
11-20-2005, 11:11 PM
It's the internet.
You'd be amazed. I probably killed a die-hard Beatles fan.
Leper
11-20-2005, 11:25 PM
/dies.
Aww I missed all the conversation! That's the most dialog this thread has seen in...ever.
blue3
11-20-2005, 11:37 PM
Haha you missed it.
Actually, you didn't miss anything..
Leper
11-20-2005, 11:43 PM
I find it funny that the Stones and Beatles always seem to be pitted against each other in some sort of rivalry, meanwhile they were good friends in actuality.
W.M.A
11-20-2005, 11:49 PM
probably cos true rock stars like the beatles and stones dont really care what ppl think, and therefore are able to overlook useless comparisons and realise theyre all likeable ppl. besides ne sane person knows with these two giants its all opinion newho.
blue3
11-20-2005, 11:53 PM
So, my friend was offered 2000 dollars for her Stones tickets, but she said no.
Leper
11-20-2005, 11:54 PM
Ya...I just found it funny..
Leper
11-20-2005, 11:57 PM
So, my friend was offered 2000 dollars for her Stones tickets, but she said no.
Shake her hand for me. How much did she pay for them?
blue3
11-21-2005, 12:00 AM
Normal price. I'm not sure exactly how much. But, 2000 dollars! I would've taken that offer.. probably cause I'm not that big of a Stones fan anyway.
Paranoidd
11-21-2005, 12:03 AM
Normal price. I'm not sure exactly how much. But, 2000 dollars! I would've taken that offer.. probably cause I'm not that big of a Stones fan anyway.
I would have done the same. $2000 is alot of money if you've ever been broke. The Stones will tour another few times again, haha.
Leper
11-21-2005, 12:05 AM
Normal price. I'm not sure exactly how much. But, 2000 dollars! I would've taken that offer.. probably cause I'm not that big of a Stones fan anyway.
Maybe if I'd seen them before I'd sell them, but you never know how much longer they're going to be around.
NP: Tom Petty- Into the Great Wide Open (I love this song so much)
blue3
11-21-2005, 12:06 AM
Well, you could take the money, buy plane tickets and see the Stones somewhere else or something.
Leper
11-21-2005, 12:10 AM
What if they're all sold out everywhere (which I imagine they are) and you're left Stones-less?
blue3
11-21-2005, 12:12 AM
Buy a ticket from someone.
Leper
11-21-2005, 12:15 AM
Buy a ticket from someone.
But what if they want $2000, no less, which you don't have because of the money you spent on the plane ticket..?
blue3
11-21-2005, 12:19 AM
Then I won't see the Stones and I'll use the money to buy Beatles action figures.
Seafroggys
11-21-2005, 12:24 AM
Yeah I have concert for Bangladesh on video.....It Don't Come Easy is probably at its best at that concert.
Wasn't that the gig where Eric died from an OD or something right before comign on, then was resusitated and went and did the gig.
Leper
11-21-2005, 12:25 AM
Then I won't see the Stones and I'll use the money to buy Beatles action figures.
Heh, alright, good answer.
blue3
11-21-2005, 12:34 AM
Heh, alright, good answer.:) ..I actually don't own any action figures of any bands which sucks.
I still need to get 'Concert for Bangladesh'..
PinkFreud
11-21-2005, 05:32 AM
Yeah I have concert for Bangladesh on video.....It Don't Come Easy is probably at its best at that concert.
Wasn't that the gig where Eric died from an OD or something right before comign on, then was resusitated and went and did the gig.
yeah, he collapsed right after shooting up, was revived, and then went on to play.
wacky clapton.
Carne Evil
11-21-2005, 11:43 AM
Yeah I have concert for Bangladesh on video.....It Don't Come Easy is probably at its best at that concert.
Wasn't that the gig where Eric died from an OD or something right before comign on, then was resusitated and went and did the gig.
I could be wrong, but whenever I watch It Don't Come Easy it seems to me that Ringo losses his place about halfway through the song. He keeps mumbling in tune, but I don't think the words he said were the real lyrics.
El_Goodo
11-21-2005, 09:56 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think Window, Window is a great song?
Was it only ever recorded during the let it be sessions? Or was it recorded on any of Harrison's solo albums? I love it :)
TheDMV
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
I heard Magical Mystery Tour (the song) for the first time today. Is the rest of the album like that? My hippie friends like it, and I'd like to diversify my Beatles collection, so considering it is BEatles work: how highly recommended does it come?
I heard Magical Mystery Tour (the song) for the first time today. Is the rest of the album like that? My hippie friends like it, and I'd like to diversify my Beatles collection, so considering it is BEatles work: how highly recommended does it come?
Magical Mystery Tour is just an overall cool album, I'll send it to you over email soon.
Schyma
11-21-2005, 10:20 PM
It used to be my favorite Beatles album until I discovered how perfect Revolver really was. "Strawberry Fields Forever", "I Am The Walrus", "Penny Lane", "All You Need Is Love" and "Fool On The Hill" are the highlights of the album. It is fantastic and must need for any Beatles fan IMO.
TheDMV
11-21-2005, 10:26 PM
I really do need more BEatles albums; it's a shame I've "overlooked" them. When I was first getting into to music, I enjoyed there work on Beatles1, but I sort of forgot about them when I would write all my favorite classic rock bands on my binder etc. MY brother picked up a few more of their albums and I have consistently enjoyed Beatles music yet never looked much farther into them.
blue3
11-21-2005, 10:26 PM
MMT is a good album. I like all the songs on it. Revolver is great too.
Violent_Bill
11-21-2005, 10:27 PM
I heard Magical Mystery Tour (the song) for the first time today. Is the rest of the album like that? My hippie friends like it, and I'd like to diversify my Beatles collection, so considering it is BEatles work: how highly recommended does it come?
I love it, probably my third favourite after White and Revolver. Get it!
Seafroggys
11-21-2005, 11:26 PM
MMT is great. Probably third or fourth favorite, behind Abbey Road, White Album, and Let it Be Naked
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-21-2005, 11:28 PM
I would have to say that MMT is my fav Beatle Album (looks at name). It has alot of great songs, like "Hello Goodbye, Strawberry Feilds Forever, MMT and Your Mother Shoul Know." Sure it wasn't relased in the U.K till 76', but it was still a very good album.
Your Mother Should Know.
Let's all get up and dance to a song that was a hit before your mother was born
Though she was born a long long time ago
Your Mother Should Know.
Love that song. :D
Lunch
11-22-2005, 10:35 AM
MMT is my 3rd favorite behind the White Album and Abbey Road.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-22-2005, 12:05 PM
MMT is my 3rd favorite behind the White Album and Abbey Road.
The White Album is one of their best albums, with some great songs like "While my Guitar Gently Weeps, Rocky Raccon, Yer Blues, Happiness is a warm Gun and Helter Skelter," but it also has some of their worst songs, IMO, like "Honey Pie, Wild Honey Bye, Good Night, Long Long Long and Savoy Truffle." Still a good album though.
Lunch
11-22-2005, 12:10 PM
No doubt about that filler on the White Album. However, the best songs on it are up there with the best Beatles songs, so it can out weigh the crap.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-22-2005, 12:10 PM
No doubt about that filler on the White Album. However, the best songs on it are up there with the best Beatles songs, so it can out weight the crap.
Agreed.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-22-2005, 08:52 PM
Man I just saw the sweetest thing I've seen in a while. It was at the Rolling Stones Rock N' Roll Circus, and it was a preformence, 1968, of the White Album great "Yer Blues." The catch is, is it was not the Beatles preforming it, or at least not all of them. It was John on Rythm/Vocals, Clapton on lead guitar, Keith Richards on bass and the drummer from the Hendrix experience( the name escapes me right now. Thats alot of talent in one show.
Jacaranda
11-22-2005, 09:34 PM
Mitch Mitchell was Jimi Drummer.
The Who Performance > Any band on there, they totally stole the show. But only because Brian Jones was too drunk and stoned to play decently!
magicbus
11-22-2005, 10:03 PM
That was an awesome version of "Yer Blues". I want to get Rock N' Roll Circus just for that.
El_Goodo
11-22-2005, 10:10 PM
Yeah...lol the conversation before Yer Blues is retarded lol, there both stoned out of there minds.
Keith: Yer Blues John! Yer Blues!
Lunch
11-22-2005, 10:27 PM
Mitch Mitchell was Jimi Drummer.
The Who Performance > Any band on there, they totally stole the show. But only because Brian Jones was too drunk and stoned to play decently!
They didn't go through with the idea because of how badly the Who owned the rest of the competition.
Jacaranda
11-22-2005, 10:30 PM
They didn't go through with the idea because of how badly the Who owned the rest of the competition.
Oh, go look at kiddie porn Pete. Wait, what? :)
I just relistened to Let It Be, Sgt. Peppers and remembered why Sgt. Peppers rules so beatlecore.
This is disgusting I just happen to be listening to Who's Next... I'm ready to pull a Van Gogh.
Leper
11-23-2005, 12:48 AM
There's not a single bad song on Sgt. Peppers. It's simply an incredible album. Magical Mystery Tour is definitely a must own as well, as Schyma mentioned. My mom has it on vinyl, so I asked her if I could have it and she said sure, she never liked it anyway.:) (She's more of a fan of early Beatles material. She describes Magical Mystery Tour as "when the Beatles went weird."):lol:
Seafroggys
11-23-2005, 01:08 AM
I really want to see that Yer Blues performance....and yeah, The Who did completly own (I saw it on TKAA)
Lunch, why do you always must whore the Who in this thread ;)
I remember a week or two ago informing my guitarist that The Beatles psychadelic era wasn't their late era, rather than their middle (I consider late White Album, Let it Be, Abbey Road).
Leper
11-23-2005, 01:28 AM
I really want to see that Yer Blues performance....and yeah, The Who did completly own (I saw it on TKAA)
Lunch, why do you always must whore the Who in this thread ;)
I remember a week or two ago informing my guitarist that The Beatles psychadelic era wasn't their late era, rather than their middle (I consider late White Album, Let it Be, Abbey Road).
Wait..what are you saying there?:confused:
magicbus
11-23-2005, 09:06 AM
I really want to see that Yer Blues performance....and yeah, The Who did completly own (I saw it on TKAA)
Lunch, why do you always must whore the Who in this thread ;)
I remember a week or two ago informing my guitarist that The Beatles psychadelic era wasn't their late era, rather than their middle (I consider late White Album, Let it Be, Abbey Road).
I can send you "Yer Blues" over AIM if you'd like. That's the only clip from the movie I have though. Just get to me on AIM next time you're on.
Lunch
11-23-2005, 09:18 AM
Oh, go look at kiddie porn Pete. Wait, what? :)
I have a real low-blow that I could use here, but I have some class so I won't.
I really want to see that Yer Blues performance....and yeah, The Who did completly own (I saw it on TKAA)
Lunch, why do you always must whore the Who in this thread ;)
Because I have nothing better to do, and no one else will whore the Who so I feel obligated. To be fair though, I didn't even bring it up.
WelcomeToTheMachine
11-23-2005, 10:14 AM
I havent been in this thread for while and im not reading all the pages so if this has been asked before sorry
is anyone going to NYC on December 8th? ill be there, i have some signs made up,i have some stuff ill be putting into the memorial they have there too, im bringing a couple throwaway cameras for pictures as my digital camera was stolen:(
magicbus
11-23-2005, 11:19 AM
As much as I'd like to, I don't think I have any way to get to New York.
Leper
11-23-2005, 04:04 PM
Because I have nothing better to do, and no one else will whore the Who so I feel obligated. To be fair though, I didn't even bring it up.
I whored them a little in the CR thread yesterday but no one cared :(
TheShaneOMac
11-23-2005, 07:34 PM
Yer Blues is actually on video google. Have Fun.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=912375689786125846&q=yer+blues
El_Goodo
11-23-2005, 10:28 PM
Yer Blues is actually on video google. Have Fun.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=912375689786125846&q=yer+blues
Beat me to it :( I was supposed to be the hero!
DeusExMachina
11-23-2005, 10:51 PM
MMT is my second or third favorite Beatles album. It's amazing.
Yer Blues was pretty good.
Seafroggys
11-23-2005, 11:00 PM
I havent been in this thread for while and im not reading all the pages so if this has been asked before sorry
is anyone going to NYC on December 8th? ill be there, i have some signs made up,i have some stuff ill be putting into the memorial they have there too, im bringing a couple throwaway cameras for pictures as my digital camera was stolen:(
Why don't people just follow Yoko's lead and celebrate him on his b-day as opposed to his d-day?
Even though it will be 25 years on the 8th. I remember the 20th anniversary and thought that was a long *** time ago.
Lunch
11-23-2005, 11:02 PM
Because it's a scientific fact that Yoko sucks. Except in this case she makes sense.
Leper
11-24-2005, 12:29 AM
I don't think sucking can be related to science:p. I think we went through this conversation before about celebrating birthdays as opposed to death-days (not in this thread but on the forums). If you ask me though, deaths hold a deeper feeling than births. You don't know someone when they're born, for the most part. But everyone knows when someone famous dies.
rockinbass17
11-24-2005, 07:42 PM
Yer Blues is actually on video google. Have Fun.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=912375689786125846&q=yer+blues
That was cool. The beginning conversation between Lennon and Jaggers seemed a bit awkward, don't you think?
The Clash
11-24-2005, 08:49 PM
I think your grandpa is wrong.
John Lennon did NOT write Imagine
John Lennon did NOT write Imagine
Yes, he did?
Jacaranda
11-25-2005, 12:04 AM
John Lennon did NOT write Imagine
And thats why its copy writed to his name?
Leper
11-25-2005, 12:25 AM
Ya dude, I'm pretty sure people would know if Lennon didn't write Imagine.
Krabsworth
11-25-2005, 12:26 AM
Did TEH CLASH write it?
DeusExMachina
11-25-2005, 12:28 AM
Did TEH CLASH write it?
lulz.
Your grandpa is wrong, kid. Sorry, but it's the truth.
Krabsworth
11-25-2005, 12:29 AM
I can see his grandpa now
"It was the Sixties, and I met this guy, he said he was John Lennon, so I said, Imagine that!, so ya see? The bastard stole my lyrics!"
Leper
11-25-2005, 01:00 AM
Hehe just like Dr. Evil's dad with his outrageous claims such as inventing the question mark lol..
DeusExMachina
11-25-2005, 01:19 AM
Guffaw.
NP: Jeff Buckley - Lilac Wine
Leper
11-25-2005, 01:37 AM
Guffaw.
NP: Jeff Buckley - Lilac Wine
Huh?...
TheShaneOMac
11-25-2005, 02:47 PM
That was cool. The beginning conversation between Lennon and Jaggers seemed a bit awkward, don't you think?
It seemed like they were joking around a bit and a little stoned.
Jacaranda
11-25-2005, 02:51 PM
Neither of them are the best actors either...
EDIT: After re-watching that I've decided, they were majorly high although I thought Mick wasn't high at the show.
DeusExMachina
11-25-2005, 03:37 PM
Huh?...
Don't ask me. I was tired at the time.
Seafroggys
11-25-2005, 04:06 PM
Lennon wrote imagine, stop trying to grab attention by being different and stirring the pot.
Leper
11-26-2005, 03:45 PM
Don't ask me. I was tired at the time.
Oh, ok then. So I just got to the part in the Anthology book where John and George first took LSD by mistake. George makes it sound like the best thing that ever happened to him..
morrison357
11-26-2005, 04:12 PM
i was wondering if anyone had any of the albums, beatles for sale, with the beatles, or please please me. if so could you please im me or email me.
email= grenz_erich@yahoo.com
aim=grenzy123
thanks
morrison357
11-26-2005, 04:15 PM
sorry 4 the double post
Leper
11-26-2005, 04:29 PM
No need to apologize, just delete one of them.:)
(use the edit button)
magicbus
11-26-2005, 06:44 PM
Is there more than one Anthology book, like the albums? Or can I just get the one book and not have to worry about finding the rest?
Krabsworth
11-26-2005, 08:03 PM
I think the Anthology book is just one massive book.
Leper
11-26-2005, 11:21 PM
Ya I'm pretty sure it's just one big book, that's what I have anyways.
Seafroggys
11-26-2005, 11:36 PM
it makes sense, since the one book covers their entire career in great detail....i dunno though :rolleyes:
Wow, I just came back from Paul (it was yesterday, but I had to drive back from Vegas) and he was soo good! He lived up to my expectations, for sure.
Seafroggys
11-27-2005, 12:17 AM
He beat my expectations the first time I saw him, and matched them the second time....
for the first time I saw him (in '02) I was afraid he wouldn't be any good because he was in his 60s, but **** he sang just as well as he ever has.
magicbus
11-27-2005, 12:27 AM
it makes sense, since the one book covers their entire career in great detail....i dunno though :rolleyes:
Hey thanks jackass. I've never seen the book, so how am I supposed to know how much of their career it covers?
Leper
11-27-2005, 01:48 AM
..and I'm only about half-way through, so ya..
blue3
11-27-2005, 02:12 AM
Is it interesting?
Seafroggys
11-27-2005, 02:20 AM
Hey thanks jackass. I've never seen the book, so how am I supposed to know how much of their career it covers?
oh sorry, i assumed you had read the book already, my mistake
Leper
11-27-2005, 02:25 AM
It's so good. I like the way it's written too. There's no narraration, it's made up entirely of Beatles/people close to the band quotes. Does anyone know if the DVD's are done the same way?
Cal_on_drums
11-27-2005, 10:43 AM
My God! I wanna see Paul M. so much. Does anyone have an idea to when he'll come to UK? From how others described his performance, I NEED to go!
magicbus
11-27-2005, 12:01 PM
oh sorry, i assumed you had read the book already, my mistake
No, I haven't. It's not a problem though.
OldBobScoo
11-27-2005, 12:15 PM
Can some one send me Here Comes the Sun my AIM is oldbobscoo
My God! I wanna see Paul M. so much. Does anyone have an idea to when he'll come to UK? From how others described his performance, I NEED to go!
I think he might be doing a world tour next year to promote his new album. If he's witty at all he'll call it the "When I'm 64" tour.
DeusExMachina
11-27-2005, 03:56 PM
I haven't gotten around to reading the Anthology yet. Just don't have the time. I should though.
/Probably a late post.
Leper
11-27-2005, 10:20 PM
I think he might be doing a world tour next year to promote his new album. If he's witty at all he'll call it the "When I'm 64" tour.
If not, I'm sure he'll still come up with something as clever.
blue3
11-27-2005, 10:30 PM
I hope he tours again. And he better come to more Canadian cities.
If not, I'm sure he'll still come up with something as clever.
Because "US Tour" was extremely clever.
Leper
11-27-2005, 10:44 PM
Because "US Tour" was extremely clever.
Haha I didn't know that was the name of his current tour. :lol:
blue3
11-27-2005, 10:52 PM
Oh.. yeah that'd make sense why he didn't go to Canada.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-28-2005, 06:02 PM
Not coming to Canada. That's mean to all us Canadian fans. :upset:
DeusExMachina
11-28-2005, 08:25 PM
Haha I didn't know that was the name of his current tour. :lol:
It's not. It's the "chaos and creation" tour. After the new album.
However, he did have the "Back in the US" tour which, although being a play on Back in the USSR, still was a lame name.
It's the "chaos and creation" tour. After the new album.
It says US TOUR 2005 on my shirt, wtf?
Broken Arrow
11-28-2005, 08:30 PM
Not coming to Canada. That's mean to all us Canadian fans. :upset:
He did come to Toronto.
DeusExMachina
11-28-2005, 08:42 PM
It says US TOUR 2005 on my shirt, wtf?
Pwned. On the back of mine it says Paul McCartney in the funny ambigram letters, and under that it says "Chaos and Creation in the Backyard." And then it has all the tour dates. Doesn't say US TOUR 2005 anywhere.
Ephemeral
11-28-2005, 08:53 PM
I wanna see him so bad. :(
Leper
11-29-2005, 12:16 AM
He did come to Toronto.
Yeah but who actually considers Toronto as part of Canada anymore?:p
blue3
11-29-2005, 12:20 AM
So, that's one place.
I wanna see him so bad. :(Yeah, same.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-29-2005, 08:18 PM
Yeah but who actually considers Toronto as part of Canada anymore?:p
123 :lol:. I guess so, but he left the whole western half of the country out.
Leper
11-30-2005, 12:52 AM
123 :lol:. I guess so, but he left the whole western half of the country out.
Hmm, sounds eerily familiar to the canadian government...:upset:
But I digress.
I still have yet to see someone with the same Beatles shirt as me. This makes me happy.:)
Magical_Mystery_Tour
11-30-2005, 12:29 PM
Hmm, sounds eerily familiar to the canadian government...:upset:
:lol:
Leper
12-01-2005, 12:24 AM
Hey MMT good luck in the noob of the month vote.
Thanks for nominating me jerk:p
blue3
12-01-2005, 12:47 AM
What Beatles shirt is that?
Leper
12-01-2005, 01:02 AM
It's grey and says the beatles across the top and has a picture of all four of them just looking at the camera. It looks like the Abbey Road era because John has that huge beard.
blue3
12-01-2005, 01:32 AM
I have that one!
Actually, I own no Beatles shirts :upset: ..I have a Lennon shirt though.
Leper
12-01-2005, 01:38 AM
Haha, you scared me there for a second.
A friend of mine has a very cool Lennon shirt. It's black and at the top says "The War is Over" and has a pic of him playing the piano.
blue3
12-01-2005, 01:47 AM
So, steal it.. Mine says 'Give Peace A Chance' at the back and has Lennon's face on it with a peace sign.
Leper
12-01-2005, 02:07 AM
I would never do such a thing. Stealing from a girl is low.
blue3
12-01-2005, 02:18 AM
Hah okay then.
Kaleidoscope Eyes
12-01-2005, 09:37 AM
I would never do such a thing. Stealing from a girl is low.
What a Gentleman, lmao
My sister made one that had the picture of George that used to be Magicbus's avatar
And in case y'all don't know I'm Walrus undercover :thumb:
magicbus
12-01-2005, 11:23 AM
What a Gentleman, lmao
My sister made one that had the picture of George that used to be Magicbus's avatar
And in case y'all don't know I'm Walrus undercover :thumb:
Which one, the psychadelic picture? Cause that would be an AWESOME shirt.
DeusExMachina
12-01-2005, 11:52 AM
I want a George Harrison shirt. That would be awesome.
Welcome back Walrus.
WelcomeToTheMachine
12-01-2005, 01:40 PM
i have a Beatles shirts, 2 Lennons, and a Harrison, one of the BEatles is from Abbey Road, the other is of the band playing live in the srg peppers era(but didnt they stop playing live before that?) maybe it wasnt a real show, just a photo shoot or something, my first Lennon is the Give Peace A chance one mentioned above and on that has Lennon on front and it says Revolution on the back, and my harrison one is him playing live during the late beatles-ATMP era
in other news i have just completed a trade with someone online for some beatles bootlegs, im expecting them in the mail this week, it has the Alternate version of almost all the albums, the different mono versions, it has Anthology More, Rooftop Concert, and a bbuunnch of other crap
i cant wait.
robo2448
12-01-2005, 05:23 PM
Sorry Lepermessiah, my friend has the exact same Beatles shirt as you. I have the same Lennon shirt as Blue3 and Welcome
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-01-2005, 07:19 PM
Nice avatar Robo.
robo2448
12-01-2005, 07:27 PM
Nice avatar Robo.
Thanks. Yay for Christmas Beatles avatars. Lots of Paint effort. The distorted faces made it kind of hard to give them beards and hats, but I gave it a try.
np- Nowhere Man
What's a fun song to play for bass? I just got a bass today (V-Bass! :) ) and I'm itching to play some Beatles.
Jacaranda
12-01-2005, 10:19 PM
What's a fun song to play for bass? I just got a bass today (V-Bass! :) ) and I'm itching to play some Beatles.
Hey Bulldog for sure is my favorite or Helter Skelter. But Hey Bulldog is the funnest for me at least. I never knew you played bass, the bass is the sweetest instrument!
magicbus
12-01-2005, 10:20 PM
Come Together, Drive My Car, and Dear Prudence always stand out bass-wise when I listen to them. I'd try though ones.
And for not Beatles: Cream - Badge, Band Of Gypsies - Who Knows, The Band - The Weight. Some stuff like that.
The Band - The Weight
I was skeptical about this song because on the Last Waltz, Danko plays a fretless and it sounds sexy as hell, and I don't want to screw that up, heh heh.
I never knew you played bass, the bass is the sweetest instrument!
I play guitar, but I'm starting to branch more into bass.
blue3
12-01-2005, 11:23 PM
I like playing bass, I don't own one yet though. A lot of Beatles songs are cool to play, All My Loving, Come Together, Day Tripper..
Schyma
12-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Village Green > Sgt. Peppers
Village Green may not be as important as Pepper but MAN this is one hell of a Pop album! If you guys haven't heard Village Green by the Kinks yet I suggest you really look into it. Almost every song on this 15 track album is incredible! I've always thaught it to be a great album but as of late I re-discovered it and can't stop playing it.
Leper
12-01-2005, 11:58 PM
Sorry Lepermessiah, my friend has the exact same Beatles shirt as you. I have the same Lennon shirt as Blue3 and Welcome
Damn you robo! Oh well, tell him lepper says nice shirt haha.
....no really, tell him..
...no...don't.
blue3
12-02-2005, 12:08 AM
His friend would probably go 'wtf is lepper'. And I've never heard Village Green. I'll listen to that, sometime.
I have the same Lennon shirt as Blue3 and Welcome:cool:
Grimm
12-02-2005, 12:20 AM
Does anyone know a song that has really good bass riff?I'm tryin to expand my mind a bit and go from stuff like metallica and megadeth to the beatles and david bowie, older stuff.if anyone knows a good bassline, it'd really help.
blue3
12-02-2005, 12:27 AM
People were talking about bass a few posts up.
Leper
12-02-2005, 12:33 AM
Bass is apparently the hot topic these days.
blue3
12-02-2005, 12:43 AM
Yeah, well, guitars are better.
Grimm
12-02-2005, 12:46 AM
I think thats a whole different discussion.
Seafroggys
12-02-2005, 12:48 AM
Bass riffs?
Rain, Taxman, Day Tripper, Mean Mr. Mustard, the list could go on
and everyone knows the moog is the best instrument
Leper
12-02-2005, 12:53 AM
Andy Moog?
Kaleidoscope Eyes
12-02-2005, 08:19 AM
MBS- All My Loving is the most fun to play IMO, and A Day in the Life is awesome too,
Deus- Thanks
Magicbus- The one you have now, sans xmas hat
I started on bass, but it's prolly easier once you start on guitar, because you know exactly which notes are in the chord that the guitarist is using when you're playing bass
El_Goodo
12-03-2005, 04:59 PM
The bass in Twist and Shout is pretty cool!
Does anyone have the link to that And your bird can sing, when john and paul are just laughing wildly? It was posted in here a while ago! I can't find it though!
blue3
12-03-2005, 05:59 PM
I haven't seen that one before.. Good luck looking through all the pages.
Seafroggys
12-03-2005, 07:35 PM
yeah i got that, my uncle gave me 6 CDs full of rare Beatle recordings about 5 years ago, and I know that And Your Bird Can Sing outtake is on there
there's also a bit in A Day in the Life, where after Paul finishes his verse he goes "Oh ****" its kinda funny
Schyma
12-03-2005, 08:48 PM
I'm tryin to expand my mind a bit When spring comes go to nearest cow field or you could ask someone for d-lysergic acid diethylamide it's not sold at your local pharmacy but you could always ask.....
/;)
When spring comes go to nearest cow field or you could ask someone for d-lypsergic acid diethylamide it's not sold at your local pharmacy but you could always ask.....
/;)
Yes Schyma, I think Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is a good song, too.
Schyma
12-03-2005, 09:14 PM
I couldn't help it btw. :p
I don't why the reporters even asked if "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" was about acid. All you have to do is listen to the song! I mean it's psychedelic as hell and it's describing a trip. If you truly believe that it's really about a picture that John's son drew then your a fool.
Lunch
12-03-2005, 10:21 PM
Because reporters aren't smart/hippies.
"Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"
Seafroggys
12-03-2005, 11:11 PM
I don't see why Lennon would lie about such things, I firmly believe that the song's idea originated from Julian's drawings. Whether a verse or two was dirived from a trip, well, I'm not passing judgement on that. Lennon was always pissed how people (the media, others in this thread, *cough* *cough*) distort the meanings of his songs.
Leper
12-04-2005, 03:12 AM
Hence the spawning of I am the Walrus.
EDIT: I also firmly believe that it was based on Julian's drawings.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-04-2005, 06:24 PM
The bass in Twist and Shout is pretty cool!
Does anyone have the link to that And your bird can sing, when john and paul are just laughing wildly? It was posted in here a while ago! I can't find it though!
The song you are talking about was released on Anthology disk 2. I never saw it posted here, but if it was good luck looking for it. It's actually pretty funny. Paul wont stop laughing and John tries to hold them together.
magicbus
12-04-2005, 06:37 PM
The song you are talking about was released on Anthology disk 2. I never saw it posted here, but if it was good luck looking for it. It's actually pretty funny. Paul wont stop laughing and John tries to hold them together.
Walrus uploaded it a long time ago. But since that link has since expired, and YSI links aren't allowed anyways, I wouldn't recommend looking for it.
robo2448
12-04-2005, 06:39 PM
I Want You (She's So Heavy) and Something have really cool bass too.
That version of And Your Bird Can Sing is hilarious. Great song too.
I also strongly believe that the origin of Lucy in the Sky with Diamond's was from Julian's drawing. I don't think John realized that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds spelled LSD when he wrote the song. I think the drawing might have reminded John of a trip and so John might have incorporated details from trips in the lyrics but I am sure that it is based off of Julian's drawing. As Seafroggy's said, there wouldn't be any reason for John to lie about the meaning of the song, so I believe him.
El_Goodo
12-04-2005, 08:17 PM
The song is about Julian's Drawing...and he also said he used some images from Alice in Wonderland didnt he?
Seafroggys
12-04-2005, 08:46 PM
yeah, John used some influences from Alice in Wonderland, especially in I am the Walrus....
Leper
12-05-2005, 12:38 AM
Alice in Wonderland?..What are some of the references? I can't really think of any at the moment...
/listens for references
Seafroggys
12-05-2005, 01:14 AM
well there's a bit in alice and wonderland about "the walrus and the carpenter" thats enough of a connection right there
Leper
12-05-2005, 01:34 AM
Oh yeah I guess there is...it's been so long since I've seen that movie.
clown_phobia
12-05-2005, 01:36 AM
Yes - john did get "the walrus" from alice in wonderland, however he had made a mistake because the walrus was the bad guy and that's not what he meant to say.
Leper
12-05-2005, 01:52 AM
I thought that fat queen was the villain..
W.M.A
12-05-2005, 05:06 AM
it was the way in which john described how julian said "looks its lucy in the sky with diamonds" that most people found implausible. im pretty sure its about lsd.
isnt alice in wonderland bout been on some halluconigen newho.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-05-2005, 05:51 PM
Hey I was reading the Beatles anthology book the other day, and it mentioned all this stuff talking about the theory that Paul had died and thats why they stopped touring and such. I looked for clues and it seems to be alot of them. No shoes on Abbey, Why he was standng backwards on the inside of Sgt. Peppers, Lines from A day in the Life and "I buired Paul" from Strawberry fields. It's pretty cool.
robo2448
12-05-2005, 06:01 PM
It's sad that December 8th is known as Dimebag Darrell's deathday instead of John Lennon's now. No offense to Dimebag, but Lennon was much, much more important to music and the world in general, and his death was more tragic IMO. Shame... I should create a John Lennon thread.
Hey I was reading the Beatles anthology book the other day, and it mentioned all this stuff talking about the theory that Paul had died and thats why they stopped touring and such. I looked for clues and it seems to be alot of them. No shoes on Abbey, Why he was standng backwards on the inside of Sgt. Peppers, Lines from A day in the Life and "I buired Paul" from Strawberry fields. It's pretty cool.
This has been brought up a lot. I don't think Paul is dead, I think the Beatles kept egging on the theory for more sales for their records. There's proof that when that theory became public, record sales increased by a lot.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-05-2005, 06:18 PM
This has been brought up a lot. I don't think Paul is dead, I think the Beatles kept egging on the theory for more sales for their records. There's proof that when that theory became public, record sales increased by a lot.
Pretty ingenious eh? If this had been brought up before, I apologize. I had just red it and that it was pretty cool.
blue3
12-05-2005, 08:01 PM
Yes - john did get "the walrus" from alice in wonderland, however he had made a mistake because the walrus was the bad guy and that's not what he meant to say.Hey, you're alive.
It's sad that December 8th is known as Dimebag Darrell's deathday instead of John Lennon's now. No offense to Dimebag, but Lennon was much, much more important to music and the world in general, and his death was more tragic IMO. Shame... I should create a John Lennon thread.I didn't know Dimebag died on the 8th too.. shows how much I pay attention. But, yeah, I agree with what you said, John Lennon was more important to music. And go for it, make a Lennon thread.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-05-2005, 08:04 PM
Don't create a Lennon thread. Then I would have to create a McCartney thread, and us Beatles fans would become divided. Lets just leave all the Beatles together in this thread and enjoy them here.
robo2448
12-05-2005, 08:11 PM
Don't create a Lennon thread. Then I would have to create a McCartney thread, and us Beatles fans would become divided. Lets just leave all the Beatles together in this thread and enjoy them here.
Well McCartney didn't die 25 years ago Thursday. So he doesn't deserve a tribute thread. I think I'll make a thread but I won't make it until Thursday (his actual death day).
blue3
12-05-2005, 08:12 PM
You made one for George Harrison too, right?
zabbit82
12-05-2005, 08:15 PM
Well McCartney didn't die 25 years ago Thursday. So he doesn't deserve a tribute thread. I think I'll make a thread but I won't make it until Thursday (his actual death day).
Nice avatar. I've been listening to Rubber Soul alot lately. :thumb:
Carne Evil
12-05-2005, 08:15 PM
All of the Beatles had interesting solo careers (Ringo not as much as the others, but you get my meaning). George really only came into his own when the Beatles broke up. So, I really don't see the problem with starting an "individual Beatle" thread since the post-beatle beatles were still interesting musicians.
robo2448
12-05-2005, 08:16 PM
You made one for George Harrison too, right?
Yeah that flopped pretty badly. I've learned that people don't want to read paragraphs and paragraphs about somebody so I'll make my Lennon thread more concise.
dr._feelgood
12-05-2005, 09:27 PM
I liked your George thread. I thought it was well worth the time it took to read.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-06-2005, 06:10 PM
Well McCartney didn't die 25 years ago Thursday. So he doesn't deserve a tribute thread. I think I'll make a thread but I won't make it until Thursday (his actual death day).
I supose not. A thread to commemerate the life of John might not be a bad idea. It is a lfe worth commemerating.
Oh ya. Just got my new avatar. So happy. :p
I made an avatar like that, it was pretty sweet.
robo2448
12-06-2005, 06:17 PM
I made an avatar like that, it was pretty sweet.
I remember that. That was a pretty sweet avatar. How do you make those?
Somebody stole my Lennon thread idea:evil:. Led-Zeppelin made a really good thread though, and I'm just happy someone made it. I'm looking forward to a John tribute on Thursday. Too bad I have school on Friday, or I would be able to take the train into Strawberry Fields which is a small place in central park dedicated to John Lennon.
I remember that. That was a pretty sweet avatar. How do you make those?
Um, it was a long complicated process. Basically, I took a picture of the 4 beatles together, cropped them into their own seperate pictures, resized them into 70 x 70 and then used Photoshop to make a flipbook out of them.
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/member.php?u=102059
If anyone wants to steal it.
Krabsworth
12-06-2005, 06:26 PM
Ok, I finally adopted a Lennon avatar for remembrance.
DeusExMachina
12-06-2005, 07:14 PM
All of the Beatles had interesting solo careers (Ringo not as much as the others, but you get my meaning). George really only came into his own when the Beatles broke up. So, I really don't see the problem with starting an "individual Beatle" thread since the post-beatle beatles were still interesting musicians.
This thread has already been established as a "Beatles and post-Beatles" thread. So, a tribute thread would be spiffy. But establishing a "Let's talk about Harrison's solo career!" thread wouldn't fly so much.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-06-2005, 08:07 PM
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/member.php?u=102059
If anyone wants to steal it.
Nooo. My special avatar has lost it's specialness. I thought it was an original idea, but it turns out people have already thought of it. Now Mine wont be unique. :upset:
I thought it was an original idea, but it turns out people jhave already thought of it. Now Mine wont be unique.
It's a good thing that account is inactive then, huh?
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-06-2005, 09:03 PM
It's a good thing that account is inactive then, huh?
Ya.
blue3
12-06-2005, 09:07 PM
Nooo. My special avatar has lost it's specialness. I thought it was an original idea, but it turns out people have already thought of it. Now Mine wont be unique. :upset:I'm gonna make a Beatles avatar like yours now. :)
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-06-2005, 09:57 PM
I'm gonna make a Beatles avatar like yours now. :)
Noooo. The horror. :smash:
Just thought I'd use the new Smilie thingie. I don't know if its new, I just havn't seen it before.
:smash: has been around forever.
:smash:
:upset: is a popular combination
blue3
12-06-2005, 10:02 PM
Noooo. The horror. :smash:
Just thought I'd use the new Smilie thingie. I don't know if its new, I just havn't seen it before.
:smash: I don't know either, I don't use smilies much.
And I changed my avatar, but it's a Lennon one.. So, it's not really like yours.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-06-2005, 10:07 PM
:smash: I don't know either, I don't use smilies much.
And I changed my avatar, but it's a Lennon one.. So, it's not really like yours.
Not bad. It's different enough that I no longer feel the shame of having the same avatar as someone. :lol:
Jacaranda
12-07-2005, 07:26 AM
:smash: I don't know either, I don't use smilies much.
And I changed my avatar, but it's a Lennon one.. So, it's not really like yours.
I like the one were he is sticking his tounge out. Nice avatar.
DeusExMachina
12-07-2005, 04:02 PM
There's a new Beatles biography out, and a John Lennon biography out. I want to pick them up.
I told my friend about that biography, since he needed to read one for english. He picked up a biography of Apple instead and thought it was the Beatles because it had the Beatles on the cover. :lol:
Broken Arrow
12-07-2005, 06:22 PM
I saw a John Lennon biography by Cynthia Lennon at Costco. I'm not sure if its new or not.
I'm getting a Lennon biogragphy for Christmas though.
blue3
12-07-2005, 06:27 PM
I think Cynthia Lennon wrote more than one book about John. I've read 'A Twist of Lennon' by her. It was alright.
Magical_Mystery_Tour
12-07-2005, 06:30 PM
Tommorowis the big day, eh? My local classic rock station is playing 24 hours of Lennon, so it should be pretty sweet.
Jacaranda
12-07-2005, 06:35 PM
Heh, I went out and bought a shirt from JC Penny's just for tomorrow. It's horribly ugly but I don't care, it has John in New York picture on it with Imagine lyric's on the back.
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