The Beatles

[Dave de Sylvia]

Let It Be is the original album, which was the last album released by The Beatles. It's got Phil Spector's production on, meaning that the famous "wall of sound" is on there, with over the top strings, and it sounds overly produced. Let It Be...Naked was produced a couple of years ago, has Spector's production toned down/removed, so it sounds more like what The Beatles, specifically McCartney, originally had in mind. It also features changes in tracklisting, such as what order the songs are in, and what songs are even on the album.

As far as I know it was completely remixed from the source tapes Spector worked with.

[bcf717]

The 50/50 love/hate ratio is to be expected. After all, these songs, and the way we are used to hearing them, have been around for closing on forty years now. Any change is going to sound weird after all this time, as 'Long and Winding Road' and the such, have always had the big orchestra and you expect it when you hear it.

It's like hearing them do the 'Rain' master track before the slow down and effects were added. The Anthology had a lot of things like that, and when you listen to the raw track, your mind goes to what you know as the final version you are used to.

I grew up with the original albums, and when I listen to a compilation, like 'Beatles 1', as soon as a song is over, my mind expects to hear the next song from the album it originally was on, not the one on the new set list.

[freestyle1k86]

They say the two wrost beatles are still alive. Your thoughts? Paul was an excellent beatle, just a horrible soloist.
Ya, and Ringo wasn't that great of a drummer eiter.

[drugstore cowboy]

They say the two wrost beatles are still alive. Your thoughts? Paul was an excellent beatle, just a horrible soloist.

That's a load of junk. I don't know who says that seriously. Ringo was the backbone of the Beatles. It's his solo efforts that leave something to be desired...many things, actually.

I'm in love with Paul's self titled solo album. It's absolutely amazing to me. He plays the instruments, and even does a formidable job on the drums, and he puts in a drum solo too. "Junk" could be the most beautiful, saddest song he's ever written, "Teddy Boy" is haunting, and "Oo You" and especially "Momma Miss America" have amazing riffs.

Paul gets bashed too much...

[QUOTE]Ya, and Ringo wasn't that great of a drummer eiter.[QUOTE]

Yes he was. Everyone should stop saying Ringo was a bad drummer. No one else could possibly have taken his place.

[freestyle1k86]

Ya, and Ringo wasn't that great of a drummer eiter.[QUOTE]

Yes he was. Everyone should stop saying Ringo was a bad drummer. No one else could possibly have taken his place.
Well, Tony Williams probably could have done a better job.

[robo2448]

To say that Ringo was unimportant is retarded. He may have not been tremendously gifted in drumming skills, but was the backbone of the Beatles. He set a steady rythm in every single song, and was able to hold the Beatles together for a while when they started drifting apart. The Beatles would not have been anywhere near the same group with anyone but Ringo, he just fit in perfectly with the others.

[Walrus Gumboot]

[QUOTE=bcf717]

It's like hearing them do the 'Rain' master track before the slow down and effects were added. The Anthology had a lot of things like that, and when you listen to the raw track, your mind goes to what you know as the final version you are used to.
QUOTE]


Is that on one of the anthologies? (The un-slowed version of Rain)

[Jimmy]

To say that Ringo was unimportant is retarded. He may have not been tremendously gifted in drumming skills, but was the backbone of the Beatles. He set a steady rythm in every single song, and was able to hold the Beatles together for a while when they started drifting apart. The Beatles would not have been anywhere near the same group with anyone but Ringo, he just fit in perfectly with the others.

plus, the only drum solo he ever did kicked an enourmous amount of ***.

[White Goodman]

The Beatles would have been a better band without Ringo, I mean there are so many notable drummers they could have gotten.

/sarcastic

and Paul McCartney was that good of a soloist! are you on drugs?

[Distant Echoes]

I dont know where to begin taking up this arguement.

Ringo was the most inpirational drummer to live....maybe not crazy Peart mad house drummer like everyone thinks what it takes, but the revolution of drummers wouldnt exsist without an idle they all looked for - Ringo

To say McCartney has a crappy solo career is like saying the Stones shouldnt be touring now because their dead. Alongside with his still fantastic voice and widely varying musical talent, his tickets sold out in almost all the shows in america in less then 5 minutes. Successful? Ill let you decide.

[panasonic youth]

Ringo is not the most inspirational. Sure he kept a good steady beat in the songs and was a part of the biggest band but listen to a lot of is stuff. It isn't all that amazing its more like this: it isn't because of him why the beatles were as big as they are (obviously did have some part) but because of the beatles he is seen as a very influential drummer.

[drugstore cowboy]

Ringo is not the most inspirational. Sure he kept a good steady beat in the songs and was a part of the biggest band but listen to a lot of is stuff. It isn't all that amazing its more like this: it isn't because of him why the beatles were as big as they are (obviously did have some part) but because of the beatles he is seen as a very influential drummer.

Stop comparing his drumming to drummers today. It doesn't work. It was the sixties then, it's the new millenium now. Time has passed, and drumming has evolved. Guess who one of the pioneers of this evolution was. Thaaat's right.

Ringo was the best drummer in Liverpool when the Beatles picked him up. That's saying something. He popularized the matched grip, the backbeat, muffled toms, and countless other things we take for granted today. He was really the first hard rock drummer, because he just pounded out a beat for the rest of the band.

It had to start somewhere, and it started with Ringo.

[RNR]

John Lennon had the most meaningful solo career. George probably had the best songs, and Paul just had a really great solid one (Wings!). Ringo had some good stuff too but he was kind of ou of the spotlight.

[freestyle1k86]

Stop comparing his drumming to drummers today. It doesn't work. It was the sixties then, it's the new millenium now. Time has passed, and drumming has evolved. Guess who one of the pioneers of this evolution was. Thaaat's right.

Ringo was the best drummer in Liverpool when the Beatles picked him up. That's saying something. He popularized the matched grip, the backbeat, muffled toms, and countless other things we take for granted today. He was really the first hard rock drummer, because he just pounded out a beat for the rest of the band.

It had to start somewhere, and it started with Ringo.
Wow, the best drummer from Liverpool, that's incredible.

I'm not comparing Ringo to today's drummers. Tony Williams in not a drummer from today, he was a 60's drummer.

I'm just saying, it's not Ringo, it's the drummer that's necessary. It could've been anybody, and you would be saying the same thing. NOte one thing he did for the group that really helped their career, did something that really stood out.

And Yellow Submarine is a crappy song.


Paul McCartney's concerts are 75% Beatles material. He's successful, but he can't survive without the Beatles.

[freestyle1k86]

It had to start somewhere, and it started with Ringo.
Actually it started with Pete Best.

[drugstore cowboy]

I'm just saying, it's not Ringo, it's the drummer that's necessary. It could've been anybody, and you would be saying the same thing. NOte one thing he did for the group that really helped their career, did something that really stood out.

Look man, I'm not saying that "the Beatles' drummer" was influential, I'm saying that Ringo Starr was influential. As I stated before, whether or not he was with the Beatles or not has no effect, it only makes his influence more widely accessible. And if he wasn't with the group, they most likely wouldn't have been as successful, and therefore Ringo really made his own talents known by helping to make the Beatles known. They didn't stick with Pete Best because he wasn't good enough. He couldn't keep time as well as Ringo.

Not any drummer could have done as well as Ringo did. Especially not the ones the Beatles had to choose from. He was the best they possibly could have gotten within their limits.

Edit: Paul's concerts today are alot of Beatles stuff, and his more pop centred stuff, because those are the songs that everyone loved. There is no way Paul's going to get up on stage in front of thousands of fans and play "Teddy Boy" or "Momma Miss America". As amazing as those songs are, they aren't as widely loved by the masses. He plays what people like. He's a smart guy.

[freestyle1k86]

Look man, I'm not saying that "the Beatles' drummer" was influential, I'm saying that Ringo Starr was influential. As I stated before, whether or not he was with the Beatles or not has no effect, it only makes his influence more widely accessible. And if he wasn't with the group, they most likely wouldn't have been as successful, and therefore Ringo really made his own talents known by helping to make the Beatles known. They didn't stick with Pete Best because he wasn't good enough. He couldn't keep time as well as Ringo.

Not any drummer could have done as well as Ringo did. Especially not the ones the Beatles had to choose from. He was the best they possibly could have gotten within their limits.
Ringo was just lucky he lived in Liverpool.

He wasn't much of an influencial drummer. I could name 3 drummers much more influential,
Jack DeJohnette
Tony Williams
Gene Krupa

[drugstore cowboy]

:rolleyes: whatever. i give up trying to make my case.

Gene Krupa would have been the worst drummer the Beatles never had.

[freestyle1k86]

:rolleyes: whatever. i give up trying to make my case.

Gene Krupa would have been the worst drummer the Beatles never had.
Except he's one the of best drummers the Beatles should've had.

[drugstore cowboy]

Except he's one the of best drummers the Beatles should've had.

Krupa was a virtuoso jazz drummer, rooted in semi traditional drumming ways. The Beatles were free thinking rock and rollers, young and wanting to expand their musical horizons. Hooking those two up would have been a catastrophe for music in general.

[PinkFreud]

Except he's one the of best drummers the Beatles should've had.
except no. the chemistry would have been terrible. williams is a jazz drummer you fool, how would he have been a good match for the beatles. its like those "dream band" threads where you post your dream band but everyone inevitably ends up choosing their favorites, and in actuality, if ever put together, would be an awful sounding ensemble. williams, krupa, dejohnette, all wouldve been bad matches. why cant you understand that?

[kbinkogtr687]

George was definitely rad, and very underlooked. His solo career is really incredible, and songs like Here Comes the Sun and Something are just incredible.

ya he really is awesome here comes the sun is a great song but while my guitar gently weeps is also really good probably my fav. by george :thumb:

[Seafroggys]

Okay, time for the drummer to intervene........

Ringo kicks the ***.

Why?

His style.

Who gives a **** if he can't blast chops like Krupa or Rich? I don't give a ****.

His drum sounds are the best I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE, and his style is supurb. I envy him as a drummer.

Also, Ringo has influenced more people then anyone else (*cough* 2-9-64)....try to disagree.

[freestyle1k86]

Okay, time for the drummer to intervene........

Ringo kicks the ***.

Why?

His style.

Who gives a **** if he can't blast chops like Krupa or Rich? I don't give a ****.

His drum sounds are the best I HAVE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE, and his style is supurb. I envy him as a drummer.

Also, Ringo has influenced more people then anyone else (*cough* 2-9-64)....try to disagree.
wow, you haven't heard many drummers have you.

fine, let's go rock and roll, mitch mitchell was excellent. much better than ringo.

And what about ringo makes him the best you HAVE EVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE.

[PinkFreud]

wow, you haven't heard many drummers have you.

fine, let's go rock and roll, mitch mitchell was excellent. much better than ringo.

And what about ringo makes him the best you HAVE EVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE.
you dont read very well do you? he said that ringo's drum SOUND was the best hes ever heard in his life. if you didnt notice, were not basing this all on technical talent. we know he wasnt the greatest drummer technically. but guess what, mitchell was sloppy. and ive never heard ringo go out of time once.

thats two drummers opinions going against yours. when are you going to give up?

mitchell wouldve been a terrible match with the beatles as well.

[freestyle1k86]

you dont read very well do you? he said that ringo's drum SOUND was the best hes ever heard in his life. if you didnt notice, were not basing this all on technical talent. we know he wasnt the greatest drummer technically. but guess what, mitchell was sloppy. and ive never heard ringo go out of time once.

thats two drummers opinions going against yours. when are you going to give up?

mitchell wouldve been a terrible match with the beatles as well.
Have you heard a drummer play out of time in any professional recording?

Oh and about the drum sound, thanks for pointing that out, of course, now the question is completely different. Let me restate that:

what makes his drum sound the BEST YOU'VE EVER HEARD IN YOUR LIFE.

[freestyle1k86]

plus, i don't think you guys understand. I'm not saying he's bad cuz he isn't flashy or because he wasn't too technical. That's fine. I'm saying he's bad, because what he did is nothing special. He kept the beat. Oh wow, he kept the beat. Dammit, Lars Ulrich keeps the beat. Many disagree, but even Lars keeps the beat. I've tested it next to a metronome, it works. Billy Cobham can keep the beat.
I think if the PInk Floyd drummer drummed for the Beatles, it could work.

[Sgt._Joker]

plus, i don't think you guys understand. I'm not saying he's bad cuz he isn't flashy or because he wasn't too technical. That's fine. I'm saying he's bad, because what he did is nothing special. He kept the beat. Oh wow, he kept the beat. Dammit, Lars Ulrich keeps the beat. Many disagree, but even Lars keeps the beat. I've tested it next to a metronome, it works. Billy Cobham can keep the beat.
I think if the PInk Floyd drummer drummed for the Beatles, it could work.


please, please, i am sick of reading you're stupid posts, just stfu or at least say something usefull.


Wether Ringo was a good drummer or not doesnt matter, wether someone else could do a better job doesnt metter, the bottom line is Ringo was the Beatles drummer and thats not going to change.

Yellow submarine is actually pretty good, and John and Paul wrote it, the acoustic part of it is brill.

[clown_phobia]

That same ringo discussion was happening ont he 2nd page of this thread!

Shows how much this thread has moved along :thumb:

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Look Freestyle whatever-the-****-your-name-is.

Mitch Mitchell couldn't be with the Beatles, because he was with HENDRIX, you moron.

Stop trying to change the past, it doesn't matter.

The Beatles' drummer was Ringo, that's the way it's going to be for the next millenia.

And besides, most of the drummers you are naming wouldn't match with the Beatles in their latter parts of their career. What's up with naming JAZZ drummers?

I don't believe jazz drummers would go well with Sgt. Peppers or Magical Mystery Tour.

Look, if you can provide backup to your evidence and stop posting dumb-assed half-thought out opinions, you can stay.

If not, get out of my thread.

[freestyle1k86]

o **** you're right. He was with Hendrix. I forgot man. He's just my uncle, that's where I got his name.
Why do you guys get so angry? This is all I said, people say that the two worst members of the Beatles are the only ones alive. That's all. People start bashing me for it so I have to back up my statement. Ringo and Paul were also the two most popular Beatles alive too. I was arguing that Ringo isn't a good drummer. I take back whatever I said about him being Ringo and being a member of the Beatles and so on. He was a character the Beatles needed. It would've helped if he was a better drummer, because certainly there are better drummers out there. And Paul, you all know that his solo career is a failure. Come on...Wings?

[MalcolmYoungRock]

o **** you're right. He was with Hendrix. I forgot man. He's just my uncle, that's where I got his name.
Why do you guys get so angry? This is all I said, people say that the two worst members of the Beatles are the only ones alive. That's all. People start bashing me for it so I have to back up my statement. Ringo and Paul were also the two most popular Beatles alive too. I was arguing that Ringo isn't a good drummer. I take back whatever I said about him being Ringo and being a member of the Beatles and so on. He was a character the Beatles needed. It would've helped if he was a better drummer, because certainly there are better drummers out there. And Paul, you all know that his solo career is a failure. Come on...Wings?

I'm sorry, but for some reason I don't believe he's your uncle.

Ringo was the Beatle with the most charisma and character.

The reason Paul's career went downhill was because him and John were the PERFECT team. Paul supplied the melodies and John supplied the lyrics.

Yes, Paul's solo career is a complete failure, that's why his USA tour this summer is SOLD OUT?

And the Wings were a brilliant back up band.

Not as good as the Beatles, no. But they were a good back up band, which is what Paul needed at the moment.

[freestyle1k86]

HIs repertoire, like i said, is 80 % Beatles material. Paul can't survive without the Beatles. Just as the Beatles can't survive without Paul.

And your perfect pair with John Lennon thing is wrong. ALthough all their songs are credited to both, that was an odd contract agreement made way at the beginning. They didn't make songs as together as you think. FOr example, Sgt. Peppers is most by Paul McCartney, except for Lucy and Mr. Kite was by Lennon. THey didn't collaborate as much as you think.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

HIs repertoire, like i said, is 80 % Beatles material. Paul can't survive without the Beatles. Just as the Beatles can't survive without Paul.

And your perfect pair with John Lennon thing is wrong. ALthough all their songs are credited to both, that was an odd contract agreement made way at the beginning. They didn't make songs as together as you think. FOr example, Sgt. Peppers is most by Paul McCartney, except for Lucy and Mr. Kite was by Lennon. THey didn't collaborate as much as you think.

No, the CONCEPT of Sgt. Peppers was thought up by Paul and collaborated with John Lennon in writing of the music.

John wrote Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! on his own.

[freestyle1k86]

John wrote Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite! on his own.
That's what I said, I think.

And When I'm 64 is strictly Paul.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

That's what I said, I think.

And When I'm 64 is strictly Paul.

Yeah, that's what you said. Haha.

Yes, but that's only one song, the other songs were collaboration.

Lennon even said he hated the clarinets in 64.

But, when I said songwriting, Sgt. Peppers is kind of a bad example.

Take Rubber Soul or Abbey Road, which displays the duo's FINEST songwriting.

Abbey Road, everything except Something, Octopuses' Garden, and Here Comes the Sun were written by Paul and John.

[freestyle1k86]

That's who it's credited to, but not necessarily true. You hear the big conflict between Paul and Yoko? That's what this is about. Not all the songs were collaborations.

[Seafroggys]

Okay, you seem to know not much about The Beatles....you seem to be an 'outsider' looking in.

I love how you accuse me of never hearing other drummers.....are you a drummer? Do you know what good drumming is? I doubt it.

Mitch Mitchell is VERY good, I love him a lot, one of my 5 favorite drummers. I like him way more then Hendrix.

And I love how you think of me thinking that Ringo's drum sound orgasm is wrong.....have you ever heard of AN OPINION? Yeah, that's right, and opinion. Listen to Abbey Road. His tom sound is so orgasmic to me, nothing beats it. Someone else like Lars' bass drum sound (not me however) its all opinion. However saying his drum sound sucks isn't much opinion, its just ignorance. They did a lot on Abbey Road to make them sound kickass.

Oh yeah, Mitch Mitchell your uncle......heh. I actually knew someone who's uncle is George Lucas, but that's besides the point. If he's your uncle, I'd think you'd know more about him then that.

Paul and Yoko thing wasn't the cause of it. That's common media knowledge bull****. Read the Beatles Anthology *gasp* reading a Beatles book full of testimonies by the band themselves? I'd always thought that book would be less factual then an 8 year old writing about Cinderella.

Nick Mason wouldn't of been that bad with the Beatles....but still, its Ringo, and he kicks ***. Also one of my top 5 favorite drummers.

Next thing you'll know he'll be talking about Neil Peart being the sloppiest drummer alive :P

[robo2448]

That's who it's credited to, but not necessarily true. You hear the big conflict between Paul and Yoko? That's what this is about. Not all the songs were collaborations.

true, but often when each one was writing a song, they would be stuck on a word, and ask each other for help in writing. Many times they also locked themselves in a room and wrote together when they had to get a song done. Especially in the Rubber Soul/ Revolver time period, they wrote all the songs completely together. They also inspired one another such as McCartney writing Hey Jude about Lennon's son Julian. I'd highly recommend the Beatles Anthology as several have already stated, it explains everything in there.

[slowhand]

Okay, what's up with the anti-Ringoism. Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles, be him bad or good, he was just what the Beatles needed. The only thing you need to do to be a good drummer is to keep the beat. And yes, that's a big deal. If Lars can do it or not, it doesn't matter, but a drummer is just that, the one who keeps the beats and keep all of the other instruments on time.

Another thing about drummers, they have to make the other instruments sound good. The guitar can be great, but put a great rhytmic section behind it, and it sounds even better.

Ringo could keep the beat, and so let every other member to be just in time with the song. Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles, period.

[DeusExMachina]

Okay, what's up with the anti-Ringoism. Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles, be him bad or good, he was just what the Beatles needed. The only thing you need to do to be a good drummer is to keep the beat. And yes, that's a big deal. If Lars can do it or not, it doesn't matter, but a drummer is just that, the one who keeps the beats and keep all of the other instruments on time.

Another thing about drummers, they have to make the other instruments sound good. The guitar can be great, but put a great rhytmic section behind it, and it sounds even better.

Ringo could keep the beat, and so let every other member to be just in time with the song. Ringo was the perfect drummer for the Beatles, period.

Word. I <3 Ringo.

[drugstore cowboy]

Another thing about drummers, they have to make the other instruments sound good. The guitar can be great, but put a great rhytmic section behind it, and it sounds even better.

Amen. Ringo was a musician's drummer. Maybe on their first album, he would just blast out a beat, but it became apparent very early on that he was the perfect compliment to the Beatles' music. Songs like Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day in the Life...it amazes me to think that he didn't have anything to look off of when he drummed these songs..that's all musical intuition and the like..

Ringo was brilliant...

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Uno dos tres Slowhand.

Another great post.

[Seafroggys]

Yeah, on a top 100 drumming performance list (and this site has good lists, not kame *** rolling stone lists) it has Rain and Day in the Life on there, I think ranking #57 and #31 or something....which is quite good, considering that there are a lot of good and technically better drummers out there.

Which says that Ringo's composition skills is what makes up for lack of technicality. Both Rain and Day in the Life do have awesome drum parts, just because of how they fit in with everything.

[slowhand]

Uno dos tres Slowhand.

Another great post.

I'm just tired of people putting Ringo down. I was like that, one of those people who thought "Ringo doesn't do anything in the Beatles, why is he there?" And then I realize that he, technically and charismatically, was the drummer which fitted the Beatles best.

Remember that George Martin got a session drummer in (Alan White, I believed his name was <--Yoda talk?) who was better technically than Ringo, but he didn't fit. Ringo came in, and it began. Sometimes you have to sacrifice virtuosity for what it fits you best. And with the Beatles, this is no exception.

[slowhand]

Hell, the same thing happens with George Harrison on guitar. They say he's no good enough and doesn't deserve to be amongst the great, but I think otherwise.

Think about how many artist have the Beatles influence. Many, right? Well, part of the Beatles sound came from Harrison. My point? Liste to Nowhere Man. All those guitar fills are Harrison's. Yes, it's a Lennon song, but Harrison made it's own with those guitar fills. This goes for many other guitar riffs/fills/solos on Beatle tracks.

So, if other musician were influences by the music of the Beatles, they have been greatly influenced by Harrison, though Lennon/McCartney get all of the credit. So, doesn't that make George Harrison one of the most important guitarist of all times? Thus, making him more than worthy to be counted among the greats, including Clapton and Hendrix.

(I don't believe I've told people about the Harrison vs Clapton guitar feud.)
PS: Sorry for the double-post.

[Eman Ruoy]

Nobody's saying George is bad. I personally find him to be the most musical of the four.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Fanboy Alert! Fanboy Alert!

:p

I'm just kidding.

But, your opinions are very valid. Harrison is HIGHLY influential and possibly one of the most underrated composers ever.

Just because he doesn't play lightning fast licks, doesn't mean he's not good kiddies :).

[slowhand]

Nobody's saying George is bad. I personally find him to be the most musical of the four.

I didn't say that because someone accused him of being bad, but I find that he usually gets the same treatment as Ringo is having right now, and I find it unfair. I also find it unfair that he isn't listed amongst the guitar legends, which I explained why in my previous post.

And yes, call me a fanboy, but with reason. =D

[bcf717]

I just had a chance to catch up on reading the past couple of pages of posts and I'm still laughing my 'you know what off' at the rhubarb between you guys and Freestyle. If you've been reading my posts, (or do a search for my past posts) you know this has been covered a couple times in the course of this thread, and my humble opinion is the Beatles success was due to four unique individuals who perfectly complimented each other in style and musicianship.

Sure there were flashier drummers. Like I said before,-- could you fit Keith Moon in the early Beatles? Hmmmm.... Sometimes the greater talent is knowing when its time to 'keep the beat' and when its to time to 'control the song.' ( Moon was fantastic, but his sound made the Who, the Who. Ringo's sound made the Beatles, the Beatles.) The same way, Harrison's lead created the songs more than a lot of people realize. John and Paul wrote 'em, but mostly George made 'em sing.

Arguments on talent are apples and oranges. You can drum like the speed of light, or pick a guitar faster than a hummingbird's wings,... but... if it don't sound good together or fit the song style, your trip on the road to success ain't goin' too far. That's where I give the Beatles the credit to say they did change music. They could rock to 'Long Tall Sally', then perfectly change to a Broadway ballad like 'Til There Was You.' Remember, back then, the Beatles were cutting edge. It's old hat to us now, but then, brand new and exciting, when they hit ---Whooo-- Cat's Pajamas, Man! This was The Happening!

One can can think that today's music stands by itself, that it doesn't rely on past influences. Those would deny anything from twenty years ago or more to be too old-fashioned and have absolutely no relevance to the trends of today.

It's a shame some think that way, especially in such a universal language such as music. All music is influenced by what came before. If there had not been Muddy Waters (jazz/blues) and Hank Williams (country), there would be no Bill Haley. If there was no Bill Haley, there'd be no Elvis. No Elvis, no Buddy Holly, Little Richard or Chuck Berry. No Chuck Berry, no Beatles.... If there were no Beatles, perhaps, the the Heavy Metal rockers of today, would be banging their heads to the strains of Frankie and Annette.

Playing the 'what if' game with past history is always a slippery slope. I remember years back when REM dismissed the Beatles as a 'pop group who played trite little love songs' and how any influence was dismissed as beneath them, as they were much more accomplished serious musicians in comparison. Funny how many Beatlesque little riffs and structures popped up in their songs over their careers..... :)

[Walrus Gumboot]

[QUOTE=MalcolmYoungRock]

But, when I said songwriting, Sgt. Peppers is kind of a bad example.

QUOTE]

I will have to disagree

A Day In the Life was said by John to be a true collaboration, 50/50. (As read in the bible) (oops... I mean anthology) IMO it is one of their best

[JonG]

I love the song I Want You (She's So Heavy) on Abbey Road. Excellent work from George Harrison.

[Dave de Sylvia]

By Abbey Road, George had become, in fact, God.

[Seafroggys]

I think I Want YOu is the universal good song by everyone on these boards. Boy does it kick ***.

[Distant Echoes]

A want you is my favorite song on Abbey Road hands down.

jcf, your post are way to informative, education, and meaningful. I really wish i would read em, but your education is out of my league

Sgt Peppers is one of their strongest forms of song writng IMO. Its known as the first true 'concept album', since the beatle didnt intend it (i think), but has a main connecting story behind it. The intro and outro Sgt Peppers Band arent just what im talking about either.

[freestyle1k86]

I Want You was the was final recording the Beatles ever did together.

[Walrus Gumboot]

By Abbey Road, George had become, in fact, God.

Sounds like a history book. I agree

[freestyle1k86]

I love the song I Want You (She's So Heavy) on Abbey Road. Excellent work from George Harrison.
I also love the organ work on that song.

[JonG]

I love how the vocals and the bends in Harrisons guitar go along together so smoothly. And right before that Octopus's Garden. Harrison +1. Still and will always be my fav Beatle.

[robo2448]

I Want You was the was final recording the Beatles ever did together.

I Me Mine was actually the last song they recorded together. It's a Harrison song on Let it Be. By Abbey Road, they were never recording together any more.

[magicbus]

Guess what guyz, I like "I Want You" also! The guitar is sweet, and I'm also digging how it matches the vocals. And the thundering arpeggio until the end of the song is awesome.

Harrison always was, and will be, my favorite Beatle.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Guess what guyz, I like "I Want You" also! The guitar is sweet, and I'm also digging how it matches the vocals. And the thundering arpeggio until the end of the song is awesome.

Harrison always was, and will be, my favorite Beatle.

I think he may be mine, but then I will swing back to Lennon. Is that Harrison in your avatar?

[thickasabrick]

I Want You is one of my least favourite songs from Abbey Road. It's still better than 95% of the music out there though. I like the ending.

[Walrus Gumboot]

I Want You is one of my least favourite songs from Abbey Road. It's still better than 95% of the music out there though. I like the ending.


Kinda like how (IMO) Let It Be is sub-par on Beatles standards, it still kicks the *** off of most of anything anyone else has done that I own

[slowhand]

I think he may be mine, but then I will swing back to Lennon. Is that Harrison in your avatar?

That in the avatar is in fact the true God, Eric Clapton.

George is Jesus (or Krishna, if you like).

And rounding off my Holy Trinity of Guitarist is David Gilmour, as the Holy Ghost.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Guess what guyz, I like "I Want You" also!

That part didn't sound like you magicbus, but the rest did.

[lunch998]

Something terrible has happened. He lost his pimpness.

[magicbus]

That part didn't sound like you magicbus, but the rest did.

:lol: I was just throwing in the "lame excited kid" because you guys were talking about "I Want You". I still have the pimpness :cool:

And yea, that's Clapton in my avatar.

[clown_phobia]

I totally love Magical Mystery Tour right now.
This is just a total masterpiece, with so many classic pop songs, and just brilliant classic rock.

[Scooch]

Is anyone else seeing Paul McCartney when he's doing his U.S. Tour this Summer/Fall? I think I'm getting tickets to the Toronto show!

[clown_phobia]

Nah - I've live in australia, but it would be awesome to see him...

[Walrus Gumboot]

Nah - I've live in australia, but it would be awesome to see him...

I can't imagine what it must be like to live in Australia. Culturaly you are so similar to US/Canada/UK but you are so very far away from everything. Good for you.

I am seeing him in Boston :D

[robo2448]

I totally love Magical Mystery Tour right now.
This is just a total masterpiece, with so many classic pop songs, and just brilliant classic rock.

It is awesome. Every song is brilliant, except maybe Your Mother Should Know and Flying, which are good, and fun to listen to, just not as good as the rest.

[kadbase3]

I Love The Beatles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 (then Again, Who Doesn't?)

[GeorgeHarrison]

Is anyone else seeing Paul McCartney when he's doing his U.S. Tour this Summer/Fall? I think I'm getting tickets to the Toronto show!

I got tickets to see him in Columbus ohio, im really close to the stage.

[Walrus Gumboot]

I have discovered Anthology 3 by way of www.cdzinc.com. NP: Beacuse (acapella). It's fun to play guitar to

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Is anyone else seeing Paul McCartney when he's doing his U.S. Tour this Summer/Fall? I think I'm getting tickets to the Toronto show!

If you don't know for sure, start eBaying, tickets sold out already.

[bcf717]

Distant Echos; Sorry my posts are way too educational and informative. Oh Well :)

[clown_phobia]

I can't imagine what it must be like to live in Australia. Culturaly you are so similar to US/Canada/UK but you are so very far away from everything. Good for you.

I am seeing him in Boston :D

Only about 4 or 5 big bands come here every year, and most of those are pop or pop/punk.

We do have a beatles festival every year though... :D

[xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx]

I totally love Magical Mystery Tour right now.
This is just a total masterpiece, with so many classic pop songs, and just brilliant classic rock.

I'm really digging MMT right now too. Strawberry Fields is one of my favorites of all time. It's a little eerie, but that's one of the qualities that makes it so cool to listen to. The lyrics are perfect, too. When John says, "No one I think is in my tree, I mean it must be high or low. That is ya can't, you know, tune in, but it's alright. That is, I think it's not too bad," that describes just how I feel sometimes.

[robo2448]

Strawberry Fields Forever is 1 of those absolutely perfect songs :cool:

[RNR]

Yeah. The Beatles have quite a few perfect songs.

(and albums)

[freestyle1k86]

I Me Mine was actually the last song they recorded together. It's a Harrison song on Let it Be. By Abbey Road, they were never recording together any more.
Are you sure?
For example the Ballad For John and Yoko was the only tune that was recorded by only John and Paul. I've never heard of an album where none of the recordings were done with everybody playing at the same time.

[freestyle1k86]

IN fact, I Me Mine was only recorded by Paul, George, and Ringo. Lennon was away getting a hair cut. Seriously.

[xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx]

I thought John was waltzing with Yoko in the studio during the recording of I Me Mine.

[robo2448]

I could have sworn I Me Mine was the last according to The Beatles Anthology. I'll double check though.

[Hard_Rocker_Revived]

I like some of the less known songs by the people that only know songs from the Beatles 1 cd.

"Please Please me oh yea, like I please you!"

So catchy.

[DeusExMachina]

I'm fairly certain they recorded together on at least some of Abbey Road.

[drugstore cowboy]

I like Ringo's drumming on Please Please Me. It's just a fun song.

And I've seen somewhere that I Me Mine was the last song they recorded together. There always must have been someone away during Abbey Road.

[GeorgeHarrison]

I thought John was waltzing with Yoko in the studio during the recording of I Me Mine.

That was probably just a practice, I doubt that was an officail recording. I see that you have watched Let it be the movie. lol

[GeorgeHarrison]

Why the hell is paul losing ground in the Top 100 bassist polls? WTF?!!!!!!!! :(

[thickasabrick]

Why the hell is paul losing ground in the Top 100 bassist polls? WTF?!!!!!!!! :(

Because Paul McCartney focused more on writing amazing songs, than showing off his skill at bass and most people voted for who thought had the most skill.

[GeorgeHarrison]

Well, sorry, im a Paul McCartney Fanboy.

[blue3]

I voted for Paul McCartney

[GeorgeHarrison]

Good work my friend.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Why the eff is this on page 3?

I Love The Beatles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 (then Again, Who Doesn't?)

I love posts like these. They just help the thread move along SO fast :rolleyes:

Everyone keeps talking about this Beatles anthology book, where can I buy this tome of Beatles-awesomeness?

And for how much?

[magicbus]

I don't really have anything new to say, except I continue to love Abbey Road. Every song on that album is amazing. I could say the same for Sgt. Pepper's, except I don't really like the Remix song. And I haven't listened to all of the White Album yet, but I'm sure it'll turn out perfect.

[robo2448]

Why the eff is this on page 3?



I love posts like these. They just help the thread move along SO fast :rolleyes:

Everyone keeps talking about this Beatles anthology book, where can I buy this tome of Beatles-awesomeness?

And for how much?

I got it for Christmas years ago when it first came out, I think it was expensive like $60. I read it a little then, put it away for like 5 years and then picked it up this year. It's excellent, a lot of great quotes, pics, and explainations behind songs and stuff like that. You can probably find it in any book store, Borders is probably your best bet if there's one near you. I'd say it would cost $30-50, not sure though.

[GeorgeHarrison]

I was at the Rock & Roll Hall of fame yesterday and i got to see some pretty cool beatles stuff. By far the coolest things had to be Lennons Rickenbaker (Black & white) and Lennons Sgt. Pepper Coat. I couldnt believe i was standing right in front of theese things. It was Truely amazing.

[drugstore cowboy]

My sis made me a Sgt. Pepper coat, blue like Paul's.

except I don't really like the Remix song.

You're a minority :p. I love it if only for Ringo's unbeatable groove at the beginning.

[robo2448]

I love the remix song. Listening to the remix followed by A Day In The Life is just amazing.

[GeorgeHarrison]

Its called "Reprise" . Omg Wtf n00bz Rofl lolz :lol:

[magicbus]

My sis made me a Sgt. Pepper coat, blue like Paul's.



You're a minority :p. I love it if only for Ringo's unbeatable groove at the beginning.

I don't like the "modernized" drumming. It sounds like something that I wouldn't listen to today.

[robo2448]

Its called "Reprise" . Omg Wtf n00bz Rofl lolz :lol:

I can't believe I just did that :upset:

I guess it was because the poster that didn't like it called it that.

[GeorgeHarrison]

nah its cool. i was joking.

[RNR]

ringo isn't a very good drummer, but he didn't need to be ;). It would have been worse if he had played any other style.

[GeorgeHarrison]

He got the job done, and i think he did have some very good songs.

[RNR]

octopus's garden iz teh w00t :cool:

[GeorgeHarrison]

I like his song "Dont Pass Me By" on The white album. I think it has some catchy beats and lyrics.

[Seafroggys]

Ringo has a huge country background if you noticed on the songs he sang and stuff.

[GeorgeHarrison]

Yeah, "Act Naturally" and "Dont Pass me By" sound very country.

[robo2448]

White Album pwns

/bump

[bcf717]

Lennon's Ric at the R&R Hall is the one given to him in Miami in 1964. It's the same as his first model 325 except the body width is a little thinner. The 1958 thru 1963 models had a 2 inch thick body. The 1964 slimmed the body to an inch and a half and added a fifth blending knob to better control the three pick-ups. Both were short scale, meaning the neck length was a little shorter than regular scale so the frets are little closer together.

I have a 1988 320 which is the same in specs, size, and design as the 1964 325. It is an awesome sounding instrument, great for pounding out rhyme with that twangy Ric sound. I wouldn't recommend it for lead or ballads, though, as a standard scale's longer strings are better suited for more melodious plucking.

[GeorgeHarrison]

i myself have always wanted a rickenbacker. Bass or guitar. But they run about 1.5-2 grand and up. So im basically screwed.

[David Bowie]

The Beatles are great for sure!
My girlfriend got me obsessed with the song I Am The Walrus,
amazing band they are,or,were.

[ledhed1]

I think the naked version better for the same reason
More polished.

[bcf717]

GEORGEHARRISON --- Don't give up so easy. I always check eBay to keep up with how much guitars like that are going for. I've seen quite a few Rics there in need of a little repair or TLC being offered for a quite reasonable price. I've seen some 4001's go for under 600 dollars.

Granted I've had my 1967 500/1 bass for about thirty years now, and the 1988 Ric 320 for a while now as well -- and the price I payed for them seems obscenely low by today's market -- but back then the prices were comparable to the cost of living today. Back then gas was less than 26 cents a gallon so the several hundred I payed still seemed a king's ransom based on the hourly wage offered at the time. I had to save for them. If you really want it, save up. It might take a long time, but trust me -- It's WORTH it! :)

[Kilisab]

What is so great about the song Yesturday? Its so boring... probably one of their worst songs I think, that and Please Please Me. What boggles is how its gone in history as the most covered songs.

[El_Goodo]

What is so great about the song Yesturday? Its so boring... probably one of their worst songs I think, that and Please Please Me. What boggles is how its gone in history as the most covered songs.

If you think an amazing vocal melody, simple but very well composed guitar and symphony is boring. I dont think you get the beatles if your looking for loud guitar songs from them.

[Kilisab]

If you think an amazing vocal melody, simple but very well composed guitar and symphony is boring. I dont think you get the beatles if your looking for loud guitar songs from them.
Its not that... I like their softer songs too. I never doubted Pauls melodies, its just I don't feel much happening when I listen to Yesturday apart from the lyrics. Its just extremely boring...

And I've heard nearly every album... so dont mistake me for a Beatles noob.

[Omar505]

Anyone know the CORRECT tuning for System Of A Down?

Please tell me it doesnt sound right when I play 'Aerials'

[DeusExMachina]

Anyone know the CORRECT tuning for System Of A Down?

Please tell me it doesnt sound right when I play 'Aerials'

Maybe I'm crazy... but isn't this a Beatles thread? And maybe I'm just reaaally crazy... but I don't think Ringo or McCartney are in System of a Down. Unless... maybe... Serj is really John Lennon in disguise!

Go away. This is the wrong thread for it.

[DeusExMachina]

Its not that... I like their softer songs too. I never doubted Pauls melodies, its just I don't feel much happening when I listen to Yesturday apart from the lyrics. Its just extremely boring...

And I've heard nearly every album... so dont mistake me for a Beatles noob.

Fair enough. I love Yesterday, but everyone's entitled to their opinions. I don't get the hype behind the white album, personally.

[GeorgeHarrison]

Anyone know the CORRECT tuning for System Of A Down?

Please tell me it doesnt sound right when I play 'Aerials'

hahahahahahah
























................no

[GeorgeHarrison]

GEORGEHARRISON --- Don't give up so easy. I always check eBay to keep up with how much guitars like that are going for. I've seen quite a few Rics there in need of a little repair or TLC being offered for a quite reasonable price. I've seen some 4001's go for under 600 dollars.

Granted I've had my 1967 500/1 bass for about thirty years now, and the 1988 Ric 320 for a while now as well -- and the price I payed for them seems obscenely low by today's market -- but back then the prices were comparable to the cost of living today. Back then gas was less than 26 cents a gallon so the several hundred I payed still seemed a king's ransom based on the hourly wage offered at the time. I had to save for them. If you really want it, save up. It might take a long time, but trust me -- It's WORTH it! :)


Yeah ive always dug the sound of a rickenbaker, once i turn 16 and get a job, ill probably save up and try to get one.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Has anyone heard "And Your Bird Can Sing" off of the 2nd anthology? I love it, they must have been so stoned

Nice user title, Deus

[robo2448]

And Your Bird Can Sing is a great song :cool:

I love Yesterday but don't think that it's as good as it's cracked up to be. I'd still give it a 5/5 but just don't feel that it's one of their best songs. The singing is great by Paul though.

[magicbus]

I have Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and the White Album. What would you guys recommend next?

I'm thinking MMT, Revolver, or Let It Be.


EDIT: Actually, I think I'm going to get all of them anyways, so which one first?

[TalkingHead]

<3 the beatles. My old man used to play them in the house since I was 3.

[Can_of_SureFire]

I like the older hippie beatles :thumb: that stuff was the Sh-t!

[keep on phishin']

I have Abbey Road, Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and the White Album. What would you guys recommend next?

I'm thinking MMT, Revolver, or Let It Be.


EDIT: Actually, I think I'm going to get all of them anyways, so which one first?


Get Revolver.

[Woodstock]

Revolver most definitely.

[robo2448]

Definitely Revolver, then MMT, then Let it Be. Then solo albums, then early stuff. You got a lot to buy. Anyone want to recommend me a McCartney solo album to buy? I think it fits in this thread. But is his solo career any good?

[IAJP]

I have a huge favour to ask someone here.

I'm a long time of the Beatles, but I don't have many of their albums (only around 3).
So, I ask of you this:
Is Let It Be really as bad as people say? I just downloaded "Across The Universe" and it's great, so could someone Yousendit (www.yousendit.com) some tracks off it to assure me into buying it, and to kill off any rumours of it's general crapness, any help would be greatly appreciated, as I am considering buying it tommorow.

(The songs I currently have off it are: Across The Universe (a great song), Let It Be (Which I don't really like that much), The Long And Winding Road (S'ok suppose), and Get Back (I like this, allthough it's a little bit eccentric) if that helps in any way).

ALSO, could anyone do me a huge favour of Uploading Norweigan Wood for me?
:) Any help greaaaaaaatly appreciated :D.

[Aeaon]

Let It Be is actually pretty good. Wasn't quite as good to some people because of Phil Spector's production.


But you can get the "naked" version if you want to. :thumb:

[IAJP]

I'm reading a review (http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/classicpop/reviews/beatles_let.shtml) of it now, it looks interesting, I'd like to hear more of the Lennon songs off it, I prefer his songwriting style to Paul's, but they both had their quips.

[Aeaon]

Have you heard John Lennon's solo stuff?

[IAJP]

Yeah of course I have.
I think I might have a greatest hits in my house, it always occured to me that the Beatles were a unit though. They all (well, maybe not Ringo) had great songwriting talent, but when they did solo stuff it didn't click, they needed the backing of their band behind them to help it achieve greatness. Don't get me wrong, of all the Beatles solo work, Lennon's is the most superior, but if you understand, I prefer them as a unit.

[Aeaon]

I like a lot of John Lennon's stuff, but Paul's solo stuff isn't all that great to me.

[robo2448]

I'm reading a review (http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/classicpop/reviews/beatles_let.shtml) of it now, it looks interesting, I'd like to hear more of the Lennon songs off it, I prefer his songwriting style to Paul's, but they both had their quips.

I've reviewed it http://entertainmentforums.greatboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=195

I'll upload some tracks in a minute.

EDIT- Lennon's solo stuff is awesome. I've got Plastic Ono Band and Imagine.

[robo2448]

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LSRF3AMPU9OT0Y300599Q7YKP
http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=044P0RKIRTR850BWYOWZT8OTDX
http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2UIRHZK77MFP52NZGP91ADR09X

The 1st and 3rd songs have brilliant vocal collaboration from John and Paul, the 2nd song is a George song, really great lyrics. The 3rd song is one of my favorites ever. I would highly recommend buying this album.

[IAJP]

Thanks a huge ammount :D.


EDIT: I just realised, I don't have Itunes :upset:

[robo2448]

sorry, just download it for free- www.itunes.com
it only takes like 2 minutes. It's great- it can play any kind of file too.

[ATM]

Have you heard John Lennon's solo stuff?

I can't really get into it. I like Working Class Hero, though.

[robo2448]

Buy Plastic Ono Band if you don't have it. If you give it a chance and listen to it all the way through, you'll probably like it. If you've already tried it, then I guess his stuff just isn't for you. Oh well. Everybody's has different tastes.

[Woodstock]

I'm uploading Revolver for everyone. I'm bored tonight.

[slowhand]

I see that George is still getting ignore on his solo work.

I won't get into it, I think I've said my piece a million times, and even have found that I'm not the only one who believes that All Things Must Pass is the best Beatle solo album (there was a list I posted in the Classic Rock thread which puts it before any of Lennon's and McCartney's work).

[Woodstock]

He is not getting ignored by me. I love his solo work.

[Seafroggys]

I like Lennon's early solo work, as opposed to his later stuff.

Plastic Ono Band is a great, crunchy, grungy album. Imagine is also good.....well....Imagine is the best song ever, but you also have Gimme Some Truth (one of the most kick *** songs ever), How (one of the most beautiful songs ever) and stuff like How do you Sleep? Great stuff.

Mother is truly emotional, especially the end. It sends shivers up my spine.

[slowhand]

I don't like Mother. I find it annoying. How Do You Sleep? is cool, anti-McCartney-ism, with George playing on that track too.

Of course, Imagine is the best song... ever, but album wise, no other Beatle can go against All Things Must Pass. At least for me.

[Woodstock]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=051VUP1C

The Beatles Revolver.zip

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Jimmy_Page: One After 909, I've Got a Feeling, Two of Us, Dig a Pony and I, Me Mine are all really good songs off Let It Be.

Personally, everyone says it's bad, but I think it's really really good.

[Brain Toad]

I just bought a shirt today with the cover of Revolver on it, my favourite Beatles album, and now I'm listening to the album.

Beatles are my favourite band, and have been since I was a wee little one, and they will be until the day I die.

[Seafroggys]

Yeah, I have Let it Be Naked and its way better then I expected it to be. Two of Us is a killer song, One After 909 is just plain fun....I've Got a Feeling is fun to groove to on the drums, and Dig a Pony is pretty cool (similar chord progressions though to Joe Cocker's cover of with a little help from my friends though....I think this came first though ;) )

[ledpoisoning27]

Can someone give me a list of all the songs Ringo sings on? I can't get enough of Ringo singing.

[DeusExMachina]

I seem to recall someone mentioning this awhile back, but never saw a link to it. Anyways, my friend sent me this, it's really amazing.

www.ukuleledisco.com/jake

And, if you want to see him just being awesome playing his own stuff, check this out.

www.ukuleledisco.com/jakeconcert

He rocks the ukulele. Hard.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

I seem to recall someone mentioning this awhile back, but never saw a link to it. Anyways, my friend sent me this, it's really amazing.

www.ukuleledisco.com/jake

And, if you want to see him just being awesome playing his own stuff, check this out.

www.ukuleledisco.com/jakeconcert

He rocks the ukulele. Hard.

Is that Jake Shimabukuro!?!?!?

Another fan!?!? Alright!

I've got his Walking Down Rainhill CD and it's awesome!

He did a cover of While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and it's effin' sweet.

[Aeaon]

Jimmy_Page: One After 909, I've Got a Feeling, Two of Us, Dig a Pony and I, Me Mine are all really good songs off Let It Be.

Personally, everyone says it's bad, but I think it's really really good.



That album is actually in my top 5. I think it's great. Could have been a little better if it weren't for Phil Spector.

[robo2448]

I think its great too. I've Got A Feeling pwns everything :cool: .

[eghed]

Buy Plastic Ono Band if you don't have it. If you give it a chance and listen to it all the way through, you'll probably like it. If you've already tried it, then I guess his stuff just isn't for you. Oh well. Everybody's has different tastes.


Does anyone here have Live Peace in Toronto I really like that. It has my favorite versions of a lot of John's stuff. UNfortunately it's really only one side because the second side is just Yoko stuff.

[DeusExMachina]

Is that Jake Shimabukuro!?!?!?

Another fan!?!? Alright!

I've got his Walking Down Rainhill CD and it's awesome!

He did a cover of While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and it's effin' sweet.

You're my hero. You need to send me more of his stuff!

[eghed]

Definitely Revolver, then MMT, then Let it Be. Then solo albums, then early stuff. You got a lot to buy. Anyone want to recommend me a McCartney solo album to buy? I think it fits in this thread. But is his solo career any good?

I think Band on the Run is Paul's best solo album.

[robo2448]

Does anyone here have Live Peace in Toronto I really like that. It has my favorite versions of a lot of John's stuff. UNfortunately it's really only one side because the second side is just Yoko stuff.

Listen to it with earphones, but only use one, and fix the settings so you barely hear her wailing, and you can just hear Clapton soloing :cool:. Thanks for the McCartney recommendation, I'll check that out. Do you know if his live stuff is any good?

[eghed]

Listen to it with earphones, but only use one, and fix the settings so you barely hear her wailing, and you can just hear Clapton soloing :cool:. Thanks for the McCartney recommendation, I'll check that out. Do you know if his live stuff is any good?

Yes Paul's live stuff is excellent. Wings over America is probably his best it is my dad's favorite live album of all time.

[cliff solos for all]

i have started to like them what album should i get

[MalcolmYoungRock]

You're my hero. You need to send me more of his stuff!

I've got it all in m4a files, so do you have iTunes? A lot of it is really brilliantly composed like hawaiian jazz.

[Aeaon]

i have started to like them what album should i get



Any album.

[Iron_Weed]

Except maybe Yellow Submarine

[robo2448]

If you don't own anything, I'd buy 1 first. So what if it's a ****ty collection, it will get you into the band and gives you a good overview of their early years especially. The first studio album I would buy would be Rubber Soul, as it was the first Beatles album I got, and is a masterpiece. Simply brilliant. After that, I would go this route Revolver> Sgt. Peppers> Magical Mystery Tour> The White Album> Abbey Road> Let it Be. If you like those go back to early stuff or solo careers.

[DeusExMachina]

I've got it all in m4a files, so do you have iTunes? A lot of it is really brilliantly composed like hawaiian jazz.

Don't have iTunes, but I have a program that can convert m4a to mp3. I haven't heard much of his stuff, but I absolutely love what I have heard.

[groomits]

I'd like to know what the song ''I am the walrus'' is about??

[freestyle1k86]

Except maybe Yellow Submarine
Which has some great songs in it.

[freestyle1k86]

Although I'm afraid to say this, I don't know why everybody hates Phil Spector with his work on Let It Be. I don't think it's half bad. People just think that it's horrible because the Beatles didn't like it that much.

[freestyle1k86]

Although I'm afraid to say this, I don't know why everybody hates Phil Spector with his work on Let It Be. I don't think it's half bad. People just think that it's horrible because the Beatles didn't like it that much.

[robo2448]

I don't get it either. I've said how much I love Let it Be a bunch of times, and I don't mind it. It works with Across the Universe. I haven't heard ...Naked yet though, so I can't judge.

[Kilisab]

If you don't own anything, I'd buy 1 first. So what if it's a ****ty collection, it will get you into the band and gives you a good overview of their early years especially. The first studio album I would buy would be Rubber Soul, as it was the first Beatles album I got, and is a masterpiece. Simply brilliant. After that, I would go this route Revolver> Sgt. Peppers> Magical Mystery Tour> The White Album> Abbey Road> Let it Be. If you like those go back to early stuff or solo careers.

Rubber Soul is a terrific album... what makes it even more legendary is it was written/recorded in under 2 mere weeks! I'd reccommend starting with Hard Days Night though, really sums up their early years and nearly every track is good... if you don't mind their pop side. After that I'd move on to Help! cuz its just **** great... and sorta sets the mood for Rubber Soul.

Once you get into Revolver, move on to an album called "Pet Sounds". Its by the Beach Boys, and really sets up the mood for Sgt. Pepper. Its actually what inspired Beatles to write the whole Pepper concept. Anyway, whatever you do be sure to have Revolver and Peppers in your collection. You'll be a better person for listening to em.

< -- Cried & laughed out of sheer joy when I first heard the song "Help!" back in the day. Pretty much throughout the rest of the album.

[robo2448]

Rubber Soul and Revolver inspired Pet Sounds though :p Cool how those things work. And I believe that Rubber Soul was the first time the Beatles changed. They started experimenting with sounds and writing meaningful lyrics. It's a nice bridge between Help and Revolver.

[slowhand]

Guys, do you know who won the 1971 Grammy for Album of the Year?

Concert for Bangladesh by George Harrison.

Another one for Harrison.

Also, Led Zeppelin's infamous Stairway to Heaven was partly written as a response to a Harrison remark saying that they don't make nearly enough rock ballads. Jimmy Page even put some of the chord progression of Something at the end of Stairway.

Harrison pushes rock forward... unintentionally!

And for the guy who wants to get into the Beatles, go with Revolver, then you can go anywhere else with that. It's just precisely in the middle. It still had some great songs that reflect their earlier days as well as the sign of progressiveness and weird chorsd that will be all around their later stuff.

[Kilisab]

Rubber Soul and Revolver inspired Pet Sounds though :p Cool how those things work. And I believe that Rubber Soul was the first time the Beatles changed. They started experimenting with sounds and writing meaningful lyrics. It's a nice bridge between Help and Revolver.
Well Beach Boy's Today! and Summer Days inspired the whole Rubber Soul / Revolver movement what with the more complex arrangements as opposed to their earlier pop songs :lol: . And yeah I really like the lyrical leap in Rubber Soul, its got a bit of Dylan and Byrds with the Beatles magic.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Brain Squrmin' Like a Toad- I got that shirt too, and I am considering tye-dying it

I love ukulele, when I'm on my regular computer I really have to check this Jake guy out
Does anyone else here play ukulele?

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Don't have iTunes, but I have a program that can convert m4a to mp3. I haven't heard much of his stuff, but I absolutely love what I have heard.

Just IM me and I'll send them to you.

AIM: Darksideoftheled

[freestyle1k86]

What are your views on the Byrds? Some argue the Byrds are better than the Beatles. I don't agree, however, those who wish to argue, I'll give the reasons why.

[Kilisab]

<-- Has not heard too much Byrds, but from what I've heard its quite good. Not as good as Beatles, but have own distinct style.

[freestyle1k86]

<-- Has not heard too much Byrds, but from what I've heard its quite good. Not as good as Beatles, but have own distinct style.
They have their own distinct style. And you can't say they aren't as good as the Beatles, if you've never heard them. Some say they aren't as versatile.

Some say the Beatles copy the Byrds.

[DeusExMachina]

Just IM me and I'll send them to you.

AIM: Darksideoftheled

Will do. Thanks a lot!

[Canadian-Guy]

Guys, do you know who won the 1971 Grammy for Album of the Year?

Concert for Bangladesh by George Harrison.

Another one for Harrison.

Also, Led Zeppelin's infamous Stairway to Heaven was partly written as a response to a Harrison remark saying that they don't make nearly enough rock ballads. Jimmy Page even put some of the chord progression of Something at the end of Stairway.

Harrison pushes rock forward... unintentionally!

And for the guy who wants to get into the Beatles, go with Revolver, then you can go anywhere else with that. It's just precisely in the middle. It still had some great songs that reflect their earlier days as well as the sign of progressiveness and weird chorsd that will be all around their later stuff.

That George....one of the coolest men to ever live. Ever. Awesome musician, one of my favorites.

I just started reading The Beatles Anthology the other day....for about the eighth time. I could never get bored of it.

[Kilisab]

They have their own distinct style. And you can't say they aren't as good as the Beatles, if you've never heard them. Some say they aren't as versatile.

Some say the Beatles copy the Byrds.
They did... Beatles copied everyone, so they got away with it :p

[Walrus Gumboot]

That George....one of the coolest men to ever live. Ever. Awesome musician, one of my favorites.

I just started reading The Beatles Anthology the other day....for about the eighth time. I could never get bored of it.

I have started to read it many times, but I have not yet finished it

[robo2448]

Same here, I just skip around, it's too long to read all the way through.

[freestyle1k86]

How much does the book cost? Roughly

[ledpoisoning27]

That George....one of the coolest men to ever live. Ever. Awesome musician, one of my favorites.

I just started reading The Beatles Anthology the other day....for about the eighth time. I could never get bored of it.
I never knew that was a book I've only seen the Dvd. I'm not too big on reading, it usually takes me 6 or more months to read a book, and by then I forgot what half the book was about.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

I saw a paperback at Borders for 20$ and the hardback was like 60$!

:eek:

[ledpoisoning27]

I saw a paperback at Borders for 20$ and the hardback was like 60$!

:eek:
I've never understood why two pieces of cardboard cost $40.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

I've never understood why two pieces of cardboard cost $40.

Yeah, me neither. Maybe because it's more support.

[DeusExMachina]

Because people are fools, and are willing to pay lots of money for hardcover.

[IAJP]

I never knew that was a book I've only seen the Dvd. I'm not too big on reading, it usually takes me 6 or more months to read a book, and by then I forgot what half the book was about.
I have a book in mine, it's absolutley massive.
It's a complete read through of EVERY Beatles song ever commited to vynil.
Pretty cool eh? I haven't managed to churn through it just yet, I'll have a look later though.

[Woodstock]

/Has the $60 version. :cool:

[Walrus Gumboot]

get it at the library

[robo2448]

/Has the $60 version. :cool:

me too, got it as a Christmas present the year it came out. Never seen a paper back version, that must be really long, because the hard cover pages are really big too.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

me too, got it as a Christmas present the year it came out. Never seen a paper back version, that must be really long, because the hard cover pages are really big too.

They were roughly the same size.

[Walrus Gumboot]

They were roughly the same size.

I couldn't even imagine.
Are you out of school already?

[Shadius]

I couldn't even imagine.
Are you out of school already?

What? :rolleyes:

[xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx]

I borrowed the Anthology from the library, but I would like to have it. There are some great quotes in there.

All Things Must Pass is on the top of my birthday list. I hope I get it.:)

NP: Don't Let Me Down (love this song:cool: It should have been on Let It Be, now I have to buy ...Naked)

[magicbus]

I got Magical Mystery Tour and Revolver yesterday.

It's pretty ironic that a cd (MMT) with such a happy cover can sound so "minor" and creepy.

Listening to "I Am The Walrus" with headphones on is so much better than I've ever heard it on the radio. I've found a new love for this song. I also like "Blue Jay Way" a lot too.


EDIT: Every song on this cd sounds better with headphones. The production is amazing.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

I couldn't even imagine.
Are you out of school already?

No I was posting in my Web Page Design class haha.

[Walrus Gumboot]

[QUOTE=magicbus]I got Magical Mystery Tour and Revolver yesterday.

It's pretty ironic that a cd (MMT) with such a happy cover can sound so "minor" and creepy.

QUOTE]

I feel that the cover only adds to the creepyness

MYR- Independent Study Latin :lol:

[DeusExMachina]

MMT is definitely one of my favorite Beatles albums. It gets no love though... it's sad.

[DeusExMachina]

Question: Are we doing the cover thread competition? If so, what song(s) do you all want to do?

[evilmenhavenosongs]

I only like three The Beatles songs, all are on MMT.

Blue Jay Way
The Fool On THe Hill
I Am The Walrus.

A lot of their other songs annoy me or I'm just apathetic about them but I've heard nowhere near their entire catalogue. Which songs do the have that are similar to the ones I like?

Oh and Penny Lane annoys the hell out of me. Grrrr.

[robo2448]

Well those are all on MMT so I'd suggest you buy that cd and see if you like that whole cd, if I had to recommend 1 song to listen to first though, it would Strawberry Fields Forever, which is also on MMT. Buy Sgt. Pepper's too, as that is similar to MMT, as are certain songs on Revolver.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

I've got MMT, they were the only songs I really liked on it though. I'll see about Sgt. Pepper's, any specific songs?

[JonG]

Have any of you seen that Penny Lane tribute? I'd love to be in that band..

I probably saw that in here..


NP : Ticket To Ride by The Beatles(duh)

[Brew]

Being For the Benefit of Mr.Kite scares me :( (Its on Sgt. Peppers)

'sup thread :wave:

I finally got round to ripping Revolver to my pooter today, its an alright album, I'll probably have to listen to it a few times to like it more.

For my Music Tech Arrangement 1 I got to mess around and butcher Eight Days A Week, it was....interestingly fun.

[JonG]

I've got MMT, they were the only songs I really liked on it though. I'll see about Sgt. Pepper's, any specific songs?
Sgt. Peppers
Fixing A Hole
A Day In The Life
With A Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
She's Leaving Home
When I'm Sixty-Four
Getting Better
Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite

Hell, they're all good.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

Being For the Benefit of Mr.Kite scares me :( (Its on Sgt. Peppers)

Ooh ooh, I remember this song! I sang it when I was in Primary School! <3 I was Henry The Horse!

I love that song.

I like I'm So Tired as well, I think I seem to like the darker songs more.

[robo2448]

I'm So Tired is on The White Album, my personal favorite. I didn't recommend it for you because the songs listed were all psychadelic and The White Album isn't psychadelic, rather it's a mixture of almost every genre.

[Brew]

Ooh ooh, I remember this song! I sang it when I was in Primary School! <3 I was Henry The Horse!

I love that song.

I like I'm So Tired as well, I think I seem to like the darker songs more.

:lol:

That first sentence made me lol.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

:upset: I dressed like a horse and waltzed around the stage. :upset:

[Brew]

:upset: I dressed like a horse and waltzed around the stage. :upset:

:lol:

Aww, cute.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

Hey, I was in Year 5. :mad:




I think there's video evidence...

[Brew]

If there is, I want to see it.

:)

[DeusExMachina]

Ooh ooh, I remember this song! I sang it when I was in Primary School! <3 I was Henry The Horse!

I love that song.

I like I'm So Tired as well, I think I seem to like the darker songs more.

Video evidence of that would be dag. You should produce it.

I recommend the white album. It seems like their darkest album to me. Not all of it is dark by a long shot, but it is more so than any other album.

[Walrus Gumboot]

I have done 8- days a week and have the basslines to countless Beatles songs stored in my memory

[DeusExMachina]

Anyone know many Beatles songs for any instrument?

I can play some of their stuff on guitar and piano, and can learn more pretty easily.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Anyone know many Beatles songs for any instrument?

I can play some of their stuff on guitar and piano, and can learn more pretty easily.

Bass
Harmonica
Trombone (if absolutly nessecary)

[JonG]

I can play Yellow Submarine, While My Guitar Gently Weeps. Haven't tried much else.


NP : Let It Be

[MalcolmYoungRock]

It would be really awesome if we could do a George Harrison tribute of While My Guitar Gently Weeps for the cover thread contest.

[magicbus]

I only know a few, but I can probably handle most of their songs. Right now I know While My Guitar Gently Weeps (chords and almost all lead) and I know most of I Want You. But like I said, I'd be happy doing any song.

[xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx]

I know a few, but just about any one should be learnable. Wait...I don't think I can record.:( While My Guitar Gently Weeps would be great for the rest of you to do, though. That's my favorite Harrisong.

magicbus: Where did you get the lead and chords? I've found some, but none I looked at were very accurate.

[magicbus]

I know a few, but just about any one should be learnable. Wait...I don't think I can record.:( While My Guitar Gently Weeps would be great for the rest of you to do, though. That's my favorite Harrisong.

magicbus: Where did you get the lead and chords? I've found some, but none I looked at were very accurate.


I learned the chords from a Beatles songbook I got from the library one time, and I'm trying to learn the lead by listening to the song. That's why I said almost all the lead, because I still have to figure out some parts.

[GeorgeHarrison]

i like to play i feel fine on my guitar naked in my basement, but thats just me.

[thickasabrick]

I dunno if this has been mentioned, or if any of you get this program where you live but...

Has any of you been watching A Long and Winding Road? If you haven't seen it before, it's basically just a very indepth documentary about the Beatles. It's went through their lives so far (after three hour long episodes) and so far they are only at about the time Pete Best left. So I'm looking forward to the upcoming episodes.

[GeorgeHarrison]

what channel is it on?

[blue3]

I've seen the beginning of 'There Are Places I Remember' one, but that's all I've seen. It was on Much More Music a few days ago..

[bcf717]

For guitar; Eight Days a Week....

I'll tab left to right for simplicity in typing (start 6th string or low E as left and work right for the other strings)

intro; try xx0230 xx0100 xx0003 back to xx0230

main song; start D xx0232 (ooo I need your), E 022100 (love babe), G xx0003 (guess you know), D xx0232 (it's true) -- then repeat for the second line.

Bm xx0432 (hold me), G xx0003 (love me), Bm xx0432 (hold me), E 022100 (love me), D xx0232 (I ain't got nothing but love babe) G xx0003 (eight days) D xx0232 (a week)

middle eight; strum -- A x02220 (eight days a week), Bm xx0432 (I love-a-a-ove you) -- now with gusto -- E 022100 (eight days a week is) G xx0003 (not enough to) A x02220 (show I care) ....then back to verses again.

outro; same as intro except finish with D xx0232, not xx0230.

Play most as 4 string chords except the E, as it will sound brighter and more like a Ric. Besides, Lennon was known for slashing out those 4 string versions of chord on songs like these.

Hope this helps, DEUX.

[slowhand]

I know a few, but just about any one should be learnable. Wait...I don't think I can record.:( While My Guitar Gently Weeps would be great for the rest of you to do, though. That's my favorite Harrisong.

magicbus: Where did you get the lead and chords? I've found some, but none I looked at were very accurate.

Yes! People are using the term Harrisong. Soon, Harrison will dominate every mind of every Beatles fan!

[thickasabrick]

what channel is it on?

Much More Music.

[bcf717]

Guitar for 'You Got to Hide Your Love Away'

Start 4 string G xx0003 (here I ) D xx0232 (stand) F 113211 bar on the first fret (head in hand) C x32010 (turn my) Fmaj7 x03210 (face) C x32010 (to the wall)

then repeat. If you do that pattern, you'll get the timing down and it'll make sense.

Chorus; G xx0003 (hey, you've got) C x32010 (hide your love).....

Now the tricky but cool part for 'away.' Listen on the song for that lilting strum he plays as 'away' is sung.
The tab is; xx0233 xx0232 xx0230 xx0232

Here's the trick--- start by fingering D xx0232 but place your pinky on the 3rd fret on the 1st string as well so both your index finger is on the 2nd fret of the 1st string AND the 3rd fret of the 1st string at the same time. Then lift the pinky off and you'll go right into D (xx0232). Then lift your index finger off for xx0230 and put it back down to finish in D (xx0232).

A little practice to get the hang of it and you'll impressing people all over the place.:)

[DeusExMachina]

Mad bumpage.

I propose we do a Harrison tune*. I know Here Comes the Sun and Something. What does everyone else say?





*Harrisong. What a rad phrase.

[magicbus]

I'll do anything. Just let me know :thumb:

In fact I propose that anyone who wants to participate lists the instrument they play and their AIM name, so we can get this a little more organized.

I play guitar, and my name is rockshowguy56.

[Badmoon]

*Harrisong.

Woah


I'd like to hear you guys play "Get Back"; that'd be interesting.

:)

[Walrus Gumboot]

I have the bassline to Something down. The guitar solo would be a challenge, but someone's gotta be up to it

[magicbus]

I think I could pull it off, with enough practice.

[bcf717]

Something starts out with C (x32010), Cmaj7 (x32000), C7 (x32310), F (113211).
Then Am (x02210), D7 (xx0212).

I don't want to leave her now is Am (x02210) to D (xx0232).
You know I believe in how is C/G (320033) to D (xx0232).

signature riff is F,Em,G,C

[bcf717]

Get Back is very easy but fun.

JoJo was a man who thought he was a lover -- all A (x02220)
but he knew he couldn't last -- switch to D (xx0232).

For the little two strum accent in between verses -- G (xx0003) to D (xx0232) fast.

Repeat and have fun.

[Schyma]

McCartney is on A&E right now playing in Russia!!!

[DeusExMachina]

I can play Something on guitar. Haven't played the solo in a little while, but I used to have it down pat, shouldn't be too hard to get it down again.

I play guitar, and keys if necessary. My AIM is DeusExMachina107.

[Seafroggys]

I can play any Harrisong too!

Yes, thats right, on the drums! ;)

[IAJP]

The Beatles-Free As A Bird (http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NE0J2YDAL4122CMN0FG4AL9CG)
Can someone have a look at that and tell me if it's genuine? I'm over 90% certain it's a genuine Beatles song, just wait till the vocals come in,

Can someone tell me which album (if any) this was off?

[DeusExMachina]

The Beatles-Free As A Bird (http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2NE0J2YDAL4122CMN0FG4AL9CG)
Can someone have a look at that and tell me if it's genuine? I'm over 90% certain it's a genuine Beatles song, just wait till the vocals come in,

Can someone tell me which album (if any) this was off?
If I'm not mistaken, it's on one of the anthology albums. However, I haven't downloaded the song you sent, or listened to the anthology for awhile, so I could be wrong.

Tonight, I'm going to record the solo to Something really quickly. It won't be anything fancy, just one take, but people can tell me what they think.