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BeautifulButterfly453
11-16-2004, 11:14 AM
Musician Forums Lyrical Challenge Championship 2004

This challenge is open to anyone who has participated in a challenge in the past year. It sort of names the ruler of the forums for the past year. It’s going to be in the form of a single elimination tournament. In the first week of December everyone writes a song based on a challenge word (see Rule 2) and the one song they write is used for every round of the tournament. The ladder gives byes and is pretty simple (see Rule 3). The winner will be declared by the new year.

Rule 1: Qualifying – Qualifying will be based off of participation. You have to have done one challenge in the year 2004, which really isn’t to tough. Then you must be in challenge ??. The top 8 of that challenge who haven’t already received byes (see Rule 3) will be admitted into a ladder system based on their ranking.

Rule 2: Choosing the Word – The top four winners of the year (in quantity of challenges won) may each choose a word. Then in the week or so before the challenge starts, we will make a poll and anyone can vote for the preferred word. The winning word will be the ONE word that everyone uses for the challenge.

Rule 3: The Ladder – The top four winners of the year also receive first round byes. The ladder will have 8 first round matches between the top 8 non bye kids in challenge ??. It will be the standard 1 vs 8, 4 vs 5 3 vs 6, and 7 vs 2. The winner of the first match (1vs8) fights the top seeded writer who had a first round bye. The winner of match 2 (4vs5) battles the 4th seeded bye player. The winner of match 3 plays the 3rd seeded bye person. The winner of the last first round match plays the #2 seeded bye person. The forums suck at spacing so I’ll try to make this look normal.

First Round
------------Quarterfinals
--------------------------Semifinals
--------------------------------------Finals

--------Bye-------#1----|
#1________ W |__Winner__
#8________|----------|

#4________ W |
#5________|----------|__Winner__|__Finalist
--------Bye-------#4----|

--------Bye-------#3----|
#3________ W |__Winner__|__Finalist
#6________|----------|

#7________ W |
#2________|----------|__Winner__
--------Bye-------#2----|

Just basic single elimination style! All submission will be in one big thread that is headed by a post that make who is fighting who very very clear.

Rule 4: Voting – This really sucked to think up. So many people had great constructive ways to vote and it is really complicated. Voting will work as follows. There will be a separate thread for each round of the challenge (First Round, Quarterfinals, Semifinals, Finals) and obviously as people are knocked out of the tournament it will get easier to vote and the bye system awards those who have done well in the year and also makes it so there aren’t so many people to vote for in one week. Everyone in the challenge must vote for the winner of each match and give a decent explanation/crit about why they voted the way did. Hopefully, this will eliminate biases because people will have to come up with solid reasons or else their vote will be subjectively discounted by the tallyer. Pretty much anyone who just says oh this guy sucks so I vote against him will have their votes discounted. The voting is NOT based on polls because people can create new SNs and vote for themselves repeatedly. Newbs are not allowed to vote and like participating in this challenge, one must have entered in one challenge during 2004 to be allowed to vote.

Are we doing it this year?

DFelon204409
11-16-2004, 01:32 PM
Technically it's not allowed but nobody cares. Also, we'll prb have mod support.

SubtleDagger
11-20-2004, 12:06 PM
I thought it was complete hell last time, but if you want to, it's fine.

ATC
11-20-2004, 02:29 PM
lets do it but can we integrate the threads/delete old voting threads once we go higher? championship, i mean.

pixiesfanyo
11-20-2004, 02:39 PM
I don't care. I was just suggesting, I don't plan on organizing.

kornedbeef
11-23-2004, 02:20 PM
That's good idea.

d0ped0g
11-24-2004, 06:52 AM
i'll try and write a real ****ed up song for u guys... when do the songs hav to b done by?
i only hav to write 1 for the whole comp right?

jurialmunkey
12-11-2004, 05:29 PM
I think its a good idea even though it is a pain in the arse to organise. And it kinda gets messy...

Maybe I'm doing a backflip on my opinion of it from last time.. I can't even remember. Am I?

I'm up for it this time around... Theres no harm in giving it a go right?

DFelon204409
12-11-2004, 07:00 PM
Haha last time you were the only one against it. Last year it ended up being a weird tie between KSE and BigBadBob.

jurialmunkey
12-11-2004, 07:20 PM
yeah... I think i was against it becoz it was going to be messy and seemed like it was all too complicated... I think it can run smoother this time though. Hopefully. Well just have to see.

smiffsta
12-14-2004, 06:54 AM
how about there should be no championship
okay some ppl might suck *** at writing,
but songs are a form of expression and eliminating someone is as bad as saying ur song dont mean sh*t
so be nice!

smiffsta
12-14-2004, 06:55 AM
also those who r good at writing should use their skills in the music industry where its worth it

DFelon204409
12-14-2004, 11:43 AM
Or you just shouldn't be here.

Permanent Solution
12-14-2004, 11:47 AM
Agreed. I post here to get feedback on what I write, I write the songs for me though, if it bothers you to have your piece trashed stay out of S&L please. :)

So is this going to happen, or no...and when if so, I would like to enter but won't be back frequently over break, but I'll check back more often if this is gonna happen so I don't miss it.

DFelon204409
12-14-2004, 02:39 PM
also those who r good at writing should use their skills in the music industry where its worth it

That's such a coincidence because right as you posted that representatives from every major and indie record label in the "music industry" came storming my house and Jurial's and Subtle's etc. to hire us so we can use our skills where it's worth it. Don't be so naive twat.

SubtleDagger
12-14-2004, 02:42 PM
Who are you talking to?

DFelon204409
12-14-2004, 04:16 PM
The idiot smiffsta.

Sarcasm Princess
12-14-2004, 05:39 PM
So lets do this thing...

chips88
12-17-2004, 01:59 PM
I have a feeling I am going to get killed, but oh well, sounds like fun.

SubtleDagger
12-17-2004, 02:51 PM
The idiot smiffsta.
I know, I said that because I banned the hell out of him.

9_9

ATC
12-17-2004, 11:01 PM
subtle for god!!


are we doing this?

cytoplasmicglob
12-20-2004, 12:55 PM
hey, I tried to participate last year...but I didn't do it right. A big flaw from last year was the fact that they had to place in the previous challenge. The fact that I didn't sorta left me out. I think that this time it should be open to anyone.