Dream Theater

[Atica]

He sings preety good in the new DVD. Score si so ****ing awesome and the orchesta made an amazing work.

[ghettoeddo]

He sings preety good in the new DVD. Score si so ****ing awesome and the orchesta made an amazing work.

the orchestra was acctually what disappointed me the most...don't get me wrong i thought it was fantastic but it was a little out of tune at times. especially in 6 degrees...and the pizzicato for vacant was not a tasteful choice.

still much better than metallica's S&M or something because they knew when to stay out and the orchestration was overall better. kudos for putting that all together in the amount of time they had

[eighty d]

It's the tuning that bothers me most with the orchestra. And the fact that it's really string-dominated. IMO War Inside My Head NEEDED a powerful horn section, and it just wasn't there. The orchestra sounded aweful in that section actually.

Still an amazing performance as a whole. All the members of DT were spot on from what I've heard (only listened a couple times).

[Lionheart1827]

The only thing that bothers me about the dvd is not having 6 degrees split up in chapters. The reason why it bothers me is because my dvd player is my PS2, and anyone who uses the PS2 for dvds knows that the fast forward and rewind feature is SO SLOW. If I had a dvd player that had multiple fast forward speeds it wouldnt bother me. Thats my only gripe, and it only bothers me because the ps2 sucks for fast forwarding.:thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

yea that feature kinda stunk even though it's supposed to be one song.
classical symphonies are broken into different movements even though they're all considered to be part of the whole, and identified as the whole.

...nevermind.

[Inkstar]

I think complaining about SCORE is an example of being one of the 'Never Enough' people.

Cmon guys.. It's awesome enough to have DT play at Radio City and record another dvd so soon... but to do it with an Orchestra?? I think that deserves a little recognition. Sure, they were a bit out of tune at times, but as if that matters - the fact that they got an orchestra together and arranged music of such difficulty is mind-blowing enough!

For the record, DT only got to rehearse with the orchestra ONCE - and that was the DAY BEFORE the show. Also, they didn't have the idea to record a DVD or get an Orchestra until half way through the Octavarium tour.

Oh, and JP had a cold on the night of the performance and STILL played flawlessly. Give them some slack. They couldn't have done it any better.

[psychedelic_liam]

couldn't resist, great band, love them

images and words is my fav by them


does anyone have the train of thought live cd?

I think it's cool, although James holds back a bit too much with singing, maybe to safe his voice?

good nontheless

I have a couple of songs from the Album, not the actual album though

[GenuineImitation]

I have a couple of songs from the Album, not the actual album though


:lol: you quoted a post from November 2004.

Anyway, I think I watched Score for the 10th time last night.

[ghettoeddo]

I think complaining about SCORE is an example of being one of the 'Never Enough' people.

Cmon guys.. It's awesome enough to have DT play at Radio City and record another dvd so soon... but to do it with an Orchestra?? I think that deserves a little recognition. Sure, they were a bit out of tune at times, but as if that matters - the fact that they got an orchestra together and arranged music of such difficulty is mind-blowing enough!

For the record, DT only got to rehearse with the orchestra ONCE - and that was the DAY BEFORE the show. Also, they didn't have the idea to record a DVD or get an Orchestra until half way through the Octavarium tour.

Oh, and JP had a cold on the night of the performance and STILL played flawlessly. Give them some slack. They couldn't have done it any better.


uh i've acknowledged it as the best live DVD i've ever seen even out of DT's collection.
nothing is ever going to be perfect. it's a damn good DVD but i was just voicing my opinion on what could've been better

[Duman]

The only thing that bothers me about the dvd is not having 6 degrees split up in chapters. The reason why it bothers me is because my dvd player is my PS2, and anyone who uses the PS2 for dvds knows that the fast forward and rewind feature is SO SLOW. If I had a dvd player that had multiple fast forward speeds it wouldnt bother me. Thats my only gripe, and it only bothers me because the ps2 sucks for fast forwarding.:thumb:

Believe it or not but I was just getting pissed off 5 minutes ago about this.

[bwnstl]

:lol: you quoted a post from November 2004.

Anyway, I think I watched Score for the 10th time last night.

Does the DVD hold more significance to you that you were there? I.e. is it more fun to watch?

[GenuineImitation]

Does the DVD hold more significance to you that you were there? I.e. is it more fun to watch?

Yes, it really makes a big difference. I love all their DVD's, but I couldnt watch any of them in their entirety 10 times in one month. With Score I can do that, not becuase I like the song selection better than any other DVD, but because I love reliving the experience of my first concert.

Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.

[Happy]

That sounds quite creepy...

[GenuineImitation]

That sounds quite creepy...

To each his own I guess.

[ghettoeddo]

well we know what genuine did on his first sexual experience :]

[Clunge]

I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.

[Lionheart1827]

Yes, it really makes a big difference. I love all their DVD's, but I couldnt watch any of them in their entirety 10 times in one month. With Score I can do that, not becuase I like the song selection better than any other DVD, but because I love reliving the experience of my first concert.

Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.

I agree.

Being there makes it so much better because it lets you relive a great memory, especially since its one of DT's best moments in history.

[ghettoeddo]

I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.

yea disc 2 is on there in its entirety.

[Inkstar]

uh i've acknowledged it as the best live DVD i've ever seen even out of DT's collection.
nothing is ever going to be perfect. it's a damn good DVD but i was just voicing my opinion on what could've been better

Sorry man, that wasn't really aimed at you. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I'm not angry or anything.

[ghettoeddo]

Sorry man, that wasn't really aimed at you. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I'm not angry or anything.

haha no personal offense taken. :chug:

[eug008]

I take it's Disc 2 of 6DOIT on the DVD?

If so, gash. Disc 1 > Disc 2.
I like the 2nd disk and all but I gotta agree with you there. Would of been better if they played the 1st disk but I guess it wouldn't of fit as a dvd.

[Inkstar]

Can you imagine an orchestra playing to The Glass Prison? Haha :p

[eug008]

Yeah, pretty much my point there. :lol:

[Happy]

I would've loved to have seen Disappear though.

[eug008]

imo they should of played that insted of Vacant, was never really a fan of that song.

[Happy]

I don't think Vacant really worked with the full orchestra.

It should've been strings on their own or even better, a single Cello.

[Charlie Manson]

Its like having sex for the first time and it being recorded for your viewing pleasures later on in life.
Hmm that doesn't all that good to me tbh

[Chu]

Can you imagine an orchestra playing to The Glass Prison? Haha :p
Imagine violins during the intro strumming pattern (The 3-2-00 or whatever it is)

:eek:

[Charlie Manson]

I don't think Vacant really worked with the full orchestra.

It should've been strings on their own or even better, a single Cello.
Nah man you gotta have a full orchestra. anything less just doesn't cut it...

[ghettoeddo]

Imagine violins during the intro strumming pattern (The 3-2-00 or whatever it is)

:eek:

it's harder for guitar than it is for violins :]
actually i take that back.

imagine them doubling petrucci's arp solo >: )

[eug008]

:lol: Thats somthing I'd like to hear.

[Inkstar]

MP chose Vacant because he had to do a ToT song (if you hadn't noticed, they play a song from every album), and he'd stated that on this DVD he wanted to do as much material as he could which hadn't already been done on DVD. Every other song on ToT had been done at Budokan, except for Honor Thy Father, but he probably realised it would be far too hard to orchestra something that heavy. But yeah... They also needed a bit of a break after the awesomeness that is 6DOIT.

[IbanezSamurai]

The thing that annoys me is that you can't skip through different songs during 6doit.

[holy crapper]

I want to like this band because john has a great dvd for learning guitar.
But I just cant get into it.
I havent listened to them alot though are they the kind of band that grows on you

[ghettoeddo]

yes. they are. for sure.

but dont force yourself to like them man.
everyone says start with I&W and SFAM...but i say hit up 6DOIT and 8vm first.

[eug008]

I want to like this band because john has a great dvd for learning guitar.
But I just cant get into it.
I havent listened to them alot though are they the kind of band that grows on you
Yeah when I first heard them I didn't really dig the vocals, I just enjoyed a few songs etc. Learning To Live and The Glass Prison but after listening to them more you start to like them heaps :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

6DOIT is the perfect album to start imo.
you've got real heavy like the glass prison, beautiful ballad like disappear, and a little bit more proggier side like the great debate.

[Inkstar]

Octavarium is the best album to start with, I would say. It displays everything they stand for. Rocky heavy songs like TROAE and Never Enough, then ballads like TALW, simple songs like IWBY, a perfect mix of prog and metal with Sacrificed Sons, and ultimate prog epics with 8VM. Really can't go wrong.

[ghettoeddo]

ok i'd have to agree with inkstar actually.

hey lionheart...jiust heard your take on blackened. you should attempt a DT song :thumb:

[jpshortstuff]

played Dance of Eternity to my music tech class today

not much response :upset:

[ghettoeddo]

its cuz they were shocked into silence and unresponsiveness

[eug008]

eh? In my class if I play anything fast they are like :eek: :eek: :eek:

[ghettoeddo]

lame.

[jpshortstuff]

could well be.

was wearing my SFAM tshirt aswell, guess i look like a total fanboy now.

[ghettoeddo]

so what's the problem again?
:smoke:

[jpshortstuff]

np np.

they used to think i was an Opeth fanboy cus i coincidently wore my opeth t-shirt for all my music classes for a week. im happy either way.

[Chu]

hey lionheart...jiust heard your take on blackened. you should attempt a DT song :thumb:
How good is it!! :D

You should help us with the Metallica tribute tbh.

[eug008]

lame.
Yeah, they think I'm like god or somthing when I'm like :confused:

[jpshortstuff]

if they think you're god get them to bring you food and booze

[eug008]

not a bad idea actually :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

How good is it!! :D

You should help us with the Metallica tribute tbh.

you guys are doing one?
i'd love to...although im not sure if im clean enough to play that fast.

yeayea shoot me :(
i think genuine's pretty solid actually.

but i'd love to give it a shot i just dont have recording gear; ill have to mooch from my friend.

[Chu]

We're sort of doing an online tribute thing, not really a list of songs, just play any song, post a recording and someone will provide another track, until we have like a song from every album...

What if you did one of the slower songs, Nothing Else Matters, Mama Said etc. Any contribution will be valuable :)

[ghettoeddo]

dont got an acoustic w/ me :(
but i'd be happy to do the solos for FTB i eat that shiit out and spit it back out.
not that it's too hard anyway :upset:

but it was a big accomplishment for me at one point.
im trying to learn UAGM in its entirety.

[Chu]

Record please :D

Edit: That is, FTB Solos and UAGM :D

[ghettoeddo]

as soon as i get some recording software. eug is helping me out

[Chu]

Thanks man, really appreciate it :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

...does this mean i need a mike? i have a small one i use for CS and skype haha

[Lionheart1827]

ok i'd have to agree with inkstar actually.

hey lionheart...jiust heard your take on blackened. you should attempt a DT song :thumb:

Thanks.:thumb:

DT is just, way advanced for me. I dont think theres one DT song I can play all the way through. I can play songs like As I Am and ITNOG but once it hits those solo sections, I cant keep up at all.

[ghettoeddo]

haha yea same...
although i can play through her eyes, the spirit carries on, octavarium (minus shredding), sacrificed sons (with my own wanking solo)

the easy ****t.

[trysthedrummer]

Haven't listened to DT in ages. I remember the days when I pretty much listened to 'em all day long. Out of that phase now.

Some of the drumming is a bit advanced for me, somethings are tricky.

[ghettoeddo]

im looking for a decent drummer around campus so i can do a bit of jammin...
not that that has anything to do with you trys...

[trysthedrummer]

:(

:) I've seen you before are you from UK?

[ghettoeddo]

no im an american.

PLEASE DONT SHOOT!!! :(

[trysthedrummer]

Thought so.

No I won't shoot, not yet. :eek:

[eug008]

ok ghetto, check your rep/pm

[Inkstar]

Yo I'm a drummer. :p

Not in the vicinity of America though.

I can maybe lay down some really crappy-recorded tracks though?

I can play all of 8VM (album) minus a few tricky bits in the title track which I'm yet to perfect. I can also play UAGM, seeing as I heard some of you talking about being able to do it.

[ThatOneDrummer]

i have all of 8VM except sacrificed sons, panic attack and never enough
i have as i am, endless sacrifice, in the name of god, and home down too, except for the solo section of home
im working on double bass so i can attempt this dying soul
oh and the ride/tom groove on blind faith is so much fun to play :D even if its pretty simple

[ghettoeddo]

awesome... :]
i wanna do a recording of 8vm (title track)

[Happy]

Oh man, I'd love to take part in a DT recording but I'm just not good enough :(

Well, I can play Silent Man.

[Lionheart1827]

Oh man, I'd love to take part in a DT recording but I'm just not good enough :(

Well, I can play Silent Man.

I remember 2 years into learning guitar I was able to play Erotomania really far into the song. Once it got to the solo though I crapped my pants in shame.

[Duman]

What's this about a Metallica tribute? Or a DT one?

[Happy]

I remember 2 years into learning guitar I was able to play Erotomania really far into the song. Once it got to the solo though I crapped my pants in shame.

Yeah I can play Erotomania up until the solo and then I go :(

[jpshortstuff]

np: DT - The Glass Prison[LIVE] (gigantour)
man this rocks.

well, if was good enough to play any DT i could record it at college. what song are you guys(dunno who this is aimed at) thinking of doing?

[eug008]

Wouldn't mind taking part in some DT cover.

Check this pwn video of DT covering Cemetery Gates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFPd7BZhFc

The Glass Prison (Some of the 2nd half)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1Kc9m3giI

[Happy]

Wow, they do CG pretty well.

I just wish Youtube wouldn't skip as much :angry:

[ghettoeddo]

i -personally- would like to do 8vm, the title track. real amitious and stuff i know...but whatever.

i know peruvian skies in its entirety, so if anyone's willing to lay down some rhythm underneath... :smoke: or i can just play along w/ the song

also, any section after the test that stumped them all from 6DOIT...

[eug008]

Peruvian Skies would be smokin.

[Atica]

Wouldn't mind taking part in some DT cover.

Check this pwn video of DT covering Cemetery Gates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFPd7BZhFc

The Glass Prison (Some of the 2nd half)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm1Kc9m3giI

Amazing cover of Cemetery Gates

[Lionheart1827]

Amazing cover of Cemetery Gates

Lol at the fat kid being raised up after Fear Factory singer finishes first verse.:thumb:

[Duman]

i -personally- would like to do 8vm, the title track. real amitious and stuff i know...but whatever.

i know peruvian skies in its entirety, so if anyone's willing to lay down some rhythm underneath... :smoke: or i can just play along w/ the song

also, any section after the test that stumped them all from 6DOIT...

Can you play Octavarium? That's some insane **** right there.

I could do About To Crash or like half of A Change of Seasons.

[ghettoeddo]

Can you play Octavarium? That's some insane **** right there.

I could do About To Crash or like half of A Change of Seasons.

yea i can play most of it minus the shredding bit during full circle.

and about to crash reprise or the regular one? because i could do reprise as well.

come on guys this is getting exciting!

[Duman]

yea i can play most of it minus the shredding bit during full circle.

and about to crash reprise or the regular one? because i could do reprise as well.

come on guys this is getting exciting!

Ok cos if you could play that bit, I woulda like worshipped you.

I meant the regular one, I'm learning Six Degrees from start to finish but haven't got as far as the reprise yet.

[ghettoeddo]

Ok cos if you could play that bit, I woulda like worshipped you.

I meant the regular one, I'm learning Six Degrees from start to finish but haven't got as far as the reprise yet.

if you could do the first one up till the test that stumped them all...i've got the latter half covered for ya :smoke:

[Duman]

if you could do the first one up till the test that stumped them all...i've got the latter half covered for ya :smoke:

Good luck on the test that stumped them all :p

[ghettoeddo]

Good luck on the test that stumped them all :p

oh i meant you do it
*runs*

[Duman]

Hahaha alright. I'm gonna have to anyway if I wanna play all of it someday.

[Animus Light]

i -personally- would like to do 8vm, the title track. real amitious and stuff i know...but whatever.

i know peruvian skies in its entirety, so if anyone's willing to lay down some rhythm underneath... :smoke: or i can just play along w/ the song

also, any section after the test that stumped them all from 6DOIT...

Octavarium isn't too difficult until the crazy polyrhythmic crap in Full Circle.

[ghettoeddo]

yup. and that isn't that hard either once you've got it in your ear.

if i can figure out how to layer tracks and repeat a backing track so i dotn have to play the whole thing over and over...i'll put things out

[Duman]

I guess Octavarium seems hard to me because i'm so lazy. I don't really have the patience to learn that acoustic part in Someone Like Him n stuff like that.

[Animus Light]

yup. and that isn't that hard either once you've got it in your ear.

if i can figure out how to layer tracks and repeat a backing track so i dotn have to play the whole thing over and over...i'll put things out

Cool. Looking forward to it. That was the only good part of the new album. ;_;

Btw, that's Adrianna Lima in your av, isn't it?

[ghettoeddo]

haha s' all good man.
this is my first attempt at recording...i'm so lost.

[Inkstar]

I'm drummer! What song we doing? 8vm?

[Chu]

Excellent Cemetary Gates performance.

I would kill for Petrucci's tone.

[ghettoeddo]

I'm drummer! What song we doing? 8vm?

could you? :]
i cant do the shredding bit, but let's do it :]

would peruvian skies work also?

[eug008]

Are you talking about 16:47? 8vm would be hard, whos gonna play keyboards? or vocals?

[Atica]

Yeh ghettoeddo, it will be pretty hard to find someone to play the keyboards, good luck for your DT project. When you record it please send it to me. :thumb:
By the way with my band we are gaoing to do Pull Me Under. And on December I'll go to a Dream Theater tribute in my country. :p

[eug008]

I thought you were gonna play it for the tribute or somthin?

[ghettoeddo]

Yeh ghettoeddo, it will be pretty hard to find someone to play the keyboards, good luck for your DT project. When you record it please send it to me. :thumb:
By the way with my band we are gaoing to do Pull Me Under. And on December I'll go to a Dream Theater tribute in my country. :p

then perhaps i will just record the guitar track over the song...

[eug008]

Be sure to post it if you do that :thumb:. So are we gonna do a cover or somthin?

[Atica]

I thought you were gonna play it for the tribute or somthin?

Yeh, if I learn it before the date for the tribute. I hope so.

[ghettoeddo]

what date..? and this is the metallica tribute yes?

[Chu]

It would appear you are talking about a Dream Theater tribute, all I can say is goodluck :chug:

Although, if anyone wants to help with the Metallica tribute, by all means :naughty:

[Toaster]

Score is great, actually. I was a bit skeptical at first but I think it's awesome, the documentary is interesting also.

[eug008]

Gawd I'm watching the WDADReUnite DVD and this is ****ing amazing. I also has this doco with all this material from Majesty, soundchecks and Interviews.Must have for a DT fan. If any of you want I can link you up with the torrent :cool:

[Atica]

what date..? and this is the metallica tribute yes?

If that goes for me, it is on the first week of december, my country Guatemala, Dream Theater tribute.

Score's socumentary is great.

[ghettoeddo]

Gawd I'm watching the WDADReUnite DVD and this is ****ing amazing. I also has this doco with all this material from Majesty, soundchecks and Interviews.Must have for a DT fan. If any of you want I can link you up with the torrent :cool:

id love it but unfortunately, my school is monitoring my bandwidth usage cuz i went over twice already...and 3 strikes, they ban my machine from the network ><

ill attempt a better version of fade to black for the metallica one and ill start w/ peruvian skies for the DT one

[eug008]

Hm, I may be able to do some of that, if I manage to get a proper tone out of my amp.

[Duman]

It would appear you are talking about a Dream Theater tribute, all I can say is goodluck :chug:

Although, if anyone wants to help with the Metallica tribute, by all means :naughty:

I could probably do 'One' as I already know it.

[Chu]

That would be cool! :D

[ghettoeddo]

DT here folks, DT

i dont have any drum machines...so im just gonna layer guitar tracks over the actual song

[Happy]

You could use these?
http://www.guitarbt.com/index.php?page=dl_list&cat=Dream%20Theater

edit: ah crap, bandwith exceeded, you can't download until October 1st.

[ghettoeddo]

i have guitar tracks for peruvian skies recorded over the actual song...and just a single guitar track playing the important parts/melodies by itself. both done in one take each

[Lord Abortion]

I just ordered Elements of persuasion, can't wait.

[ghettoeddo]

that's a solid album...

highly recommend "slightly out of reach"

[eug008]

True that, anyone heard any of his other solo projects?

[ghettoeddo]

mullmuzzler and stuff?
yea but i haevnt actually heard it....i wana pick up rudess's stuff first

[Lionheart1827]

True that, anyone heard any of his other solo projects?

Yeah, ever heard of Frameshift?

Thats one of his lesser known side projects, and its pretty good.:thumb:

[Happy]

Who are we talking about here?

[ghettoeddo]

rudess

[Atica]

I would like to find something from Jordan Rudess, i found one but the file had expired already. :upset:

[Lionheart1827]

rudess

Oh, I thought we were talkin about Labrie. Oh well.:thumb:

[eug008]

Yeah me too :confused: I'll check for some Rudess CD's now.

[Atica]

Hey if you find anything can you send it to me please? I know I have ask you many albums, but you'll be making someone happy. :p

[eug008]

Found like all his albums :cool:. Tell me if you want them.

[bwnstl]

I have Rhythm of Time or whatever it is. I can rip it and upload it to the Daily Upload if you'd like to request it.

[eug008]

No need, I found a link already man.

[Atica]

Found like all his albums :cool:. Tell me if you want them.

That would be great man, can you send them to my email? Thanks:thumb:

[eug008]

I'll try to get them to you on msn tomorrow.

[ghettoeddo]

me too? :(

ghettoeddo AT gmail dot com

[bwnstl]

bjwumr at gmail dot com

Thanks!

[Duman]

albinobobmarley (at) gmail.com please :)

[Liquid Fantasy]

Does anyone have the documentary part of Score?
I can't find the DVD anywere here in my country... Please help me :).

I you have it please send it to karlmilan234@gmail.com.

Thx!

[ghettoeddo]

i do but idk how to rip it haha

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So I listened to Awake for the first time in like half a year, and I actually liked most of it quite a bit. Namely, 6:00, The Mirror, Caught in a Web, and that's probably it.

[Toaster]

I don't like LaBrie's vocals on that album, but that's pretty much the only thing I don't like about it. It's a great album.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You know what, I kind of gave up on Dream Theater after listening to Awake because Labrie annoys me; after listening to Ayreon's "The Human Equation," I appreciated Labrie's vocals a lot more, so maybe I ought to check out some more Dream Theater, especially if Awake is weak on Labrie's part.

[Toaster]

That's a really poor performance from him. He's off-key a lot of the time, and he does this raspy type thing which sounds horrible. He sounds really good on Metropolis and Images and Words.

Damn, I still have to check out Ayreon!

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It's hard to listen to The Human Equation in one sitting, simply because it's nearly 2 hours and I never really have that much time on my hands...It's an okay album though, check that out.

And I'll try and pick up one of those two albums.

[eug008]

Sent the links to all who asked.

[Happy]

That's a really poor performance from him. He's off-key a lot of the time, and he does this raspy type thing which sounds horrible. He sounds really good on Metropolis and Images and Words.

Damn, I still have to check out Ayreon!

You think so?
I love Awake's vocals

[eug008]

Me too, it helps set a dark atmosphere.

[Cain]

It's hard to listen to The Human Equation in one sitting, simply because it's nearly 2 hours and I never really have that much time on my hands...It's an okay album though, check that out.

And I'll try and pick up one of those two albums.

The Human Equation is the definition of modern prog. It's ridiculously ecclectic in terms of the genres it takes from. And oh man, those keyboards are INTENSE.

I still didn't like LaBrie's voice all that much though. I just like it because it piles on some of my favorite singers to stand in for certain characters and stuff.

[lak89]

LaBrie's vocals were pretty good on Awake, especially for a darker album and when his voice was more of a raspy shriek than his more melodious singing nowadays. He tends to scream out higher verses back then

[ghettoeddo]

The Human Equation is the definition of modern prog. It's ridiculously ecclectic in terms of the genres it takes from. And oh man, those keyboards are INTENSE.

I still didn't like LaBrie's voice all that much though. I just like it because it piles on some of my favorite singers to stand in for certain characters and stuff.

what is this human equation ayreon people keep talking about? i didnt know labrie had a side project called that?

thx eug :)

[eug008]

No problem.

Yeah me neither, I should check it out.

[ghettoeddo]

only problem is...it's rapidshare and i gotta wait in b/w downloads about 2 hours :(
but ill get them all eventually :]

[eug008]

Hey, did it end up needing a pw?

[ghettoeddo]

nope
just entre the code they give you once the wait time is over.
but if ur a non-premium user, you have a wait time of about 2 hours b/w downloads

[Mother]

rapidshare annoys me ... half the time it says My IP is already downloading something (even though its not) or the download has expired or something

[Happy]

I can't download from it at all. Something to do with who I'm with for internets

[eug008]

Hey since were talking about side-projects, has anyone else heard Kevin Moore's solo project, Chroma Key?

[ghettoeddo]

yea heard of it...how is it?
i still have yet to hear OSI actually... :(

[jpshortstuff]

im worried that OSI will be too proggy for me so i havent got any yet.

[ghettoeddo]

doesnt hurt to try :]
although i have all of JP's side projects...i need to delve into everything else.
transatlantic (portnoy) kinda bored me...

[jpshortstuff]

LTE and SA are doing me fine atm. (np:Acid Rain - just the kind of proggyness i like)

[ghettoeddo]

Sa?

[jpshortstuff]

Suspended Animation. sorry, thats not so obvious when abbreviated.

[ghettoeddo]

ohhhh ok
i've also got JLB's elements of persuasion, but i wanna check out mullmuzzler too

[eug008]

yea heard of it...how is it?
i still have yet to hear OSI actually... :(
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=805

I got all their albums, pretty odd but good stuff. Definatly not much like DT but good stuff. I'll upload a track sometime soon which reminds me of Space Dye Vest, but better imo. Kevin Moores vocals really suit the music.

[ghettoeddo]

:O woa he sings?? neatoooo

[jpshortstuff]

im considering getting some of JLB's stuff actually, despite not really liking him as a singer (/hides). i heard some clips that sounded quite cool.

[ghettoeddo]

yea t's probably off of elements of persuasion.

some of it actually reminds me of linkin park.
but better of course

[eug008]

:O woa he sings?? neatoooo
Yup, he hasn't really got much of a range but it suits very well. You'll see when I upload the track anyway.

@ JP, yeah he sounds better on his solo albums imo.

[ghettoeddo]

aiite sounds good sounds good.
if you -could-, rapidshare would NOT be preferable...but if you must that's fine ill deal :smoke:

[eug008]

I never upload on RS, especially with the crap dload speeds I've been getting. I mean, 3 hours for a Rudess album?

[ghettoeddo]

haha yea...didnt you upload that text file w/ all the rudess links via rapidshare?

[eug008]

nah, sendspace I think.

[Lord Abortion]

hey folks, I'm still waiting on my JLB album.

[eug008]

Guys, the Chroma Key song (Kevin Moore's side project where he does the Keyboards and Vocals).

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mlybao

[ghettoeddo]

this song is AMAZING

[eug008]

It most certainly is :cool:. I can upload one of their albums for you guys sometime today if anyone want's?

EDIT: I'll get it up now. May take a while, so in a few hours it should be good.

[eighty d]

What Chroma Key song did you up? I love You Go Now, particularly Get Back in the Car and Another Permanent Address.

[eug008]

On The Page, it's off Dead Air For Radios which is my favourite CK album. It says it'll be up in 50 minutes so post if you want it.

EDIT: IT'S UP

ghetto and pate check your rep. If anyone else wants it tell me.

[pate]

Thanks man :thumb:

[Collis]

Hmm my first post in here; and I am a pretty big (Metaphorically) Dream Theater fan ... SFAM is probably my favourite album; but my favourite song has to be A Change of Seasons, seriously it is one of my fave songs of all time ... and 23 minutes! What more could you want!? :thumb:

[jpshortstuff]

^i like your thinking sir, and welcome to the thread :wave:
SFAM is my favourite album too i think, and ACOS definatly one of my favourite songs.

now to give this post a point:
what kind of music is KM's Chroma Key? i may be interested in this u/l from eug.

[Happy]

Does anyone have a powertab or Guitarpro of the big medley for guitar?

[Atica]

Hey Eug, thanks for Jordan Rudess albums. Also for posting Kevin Moore's project. :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

thanks eug, i'd rep you but i need to "spread it first."

chroma key is just...idk. think liquid tension, but not as in your face a litlte more laid back etc. still a lot of prog elements

and those JR albums made me cry. SO good...im almost tempted to say that i like him more than JP...but yea...

[bwnstl]

I'd like the Chroma Key album(s) if you please.

bjwumr At gmail DOT com

[eighty d]

chroma key is just...idk. think liquid tension, but not as in your face a litlte more laid back etc. still a lot of prog elements


I wouldn't associate Chroma Key with Liquid Tension. Liquid Tension is, for the most part, extremely progressive and technical. Chroma Key is really laid back and chill. A lot more atmospheric, a lot more beat driven.

I'd like the album that you upped eug.

cranuaed@gmail.com

[eug008]

^i like your thinking sir, and welcome to the thread :wave:
SFAM is my favourite album too i think, and ACOS definatly one of my favourite songs.

now to give this post a point:
what kind of music is KM's Chroma Key? i may be interested in this u/l from eug.
Dude, check out that song I uploaded. It's a very good album so I'd say get it. I'll send it to all you guys, hold on. If you want it JP post your email cause it's not in your profile :mad:

[eighty d]

Downloading the Chroma Key now. Thanks eug and rep+.

[ghettoeddo]

I wouldn't associate Chroma Key with Liquid Tension. Liquid Tension is, for the most part, extremely progressive and technical. Chroma Key is really laid back and chill. A lot more atmospheric, a lot more beat driven.

I'd like the album that you upped eug.

cranuaed@gmail.com

chroma key still has a little bit of that virtuostic element to it...not quite so much as LTE, but a bit. and there's a lot of prog hallmarks too like strange key signatures...

idk. hard to describe. its all good **** anyway

[eug008]

Yeah, it's like relaxing kind of music. Very balladish kind of. Great stuff tho, and their other album's are more experimentalish.

[ghettoeddo]

anyone hear the rudess/morgenstein stuff?

[jpshortstuff]

^^no, but i'd like to - rudess is my kind of crazy smilin' keyboardist.

eug, i listened to that sample track you posted and it was pretty good, i wasn't expecting to enjoy it tbh. i'll take that album if you'd be so kind :)
jpshortstuff @ gmail dot com

[eug008]

Of course. What album are you talking about ghetto?

[Lord Abortion]

Still no jlb :mad:

[Inkstar]

Yo g's. Just got back from holiday - how you all been?

Can't get enough of SCORE, personally. Such a brilliant concert.

I see you're all talking about side projects so I may as well chip in...
LTE is absolutely brilliant. Love it. For those not in the know, the reason LTE no longer write is because they are 3/4 DT members, so there'd really be no point. (Rudess was in LTE before he got invited to DT).

OSI is an interesting one. It's certainly very different, but I really like it. Very strange approach, but has a great result.

JLB's Elements of Persuasion is great! I love it. Like many others, it was wrongly labelled when I coughdownloadedcough it, so I first thought it was Octavarium. Heh.

Can't wait for MP's collaberation with Opeth!!

[the2stranger]

Still no jlb :mad:

The latest one?

Does anyone else love the paino version of the Ytse Jam?
It's better than the guitar version imo.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

rudess is my kind of crazy smilin' keyboardist.


Does he ever stop grinning?
He was grinning the whole time when I saw them.
I found it kinda creepy towards the end.

[eug008]

The latest one?

Does anyone else love the paino version of the Ytse Jam?
It's better than the guitar version imo.

Piano version ey :naughty:

Care to upload?

[Chu]

Does he ever stop grinning?
He was grinning the whole time when I saw them.
I found it kinda creepy towards the end.
If you've ever seen DT's video of Master of Puppets, he does the best grin, right as the shred solo starts, he's just grinning and spinning around on his whacky wheelboard, it's good.

[Happy]

Care to upload?

Yeah upload :smash:

[Lord Abortion]

I got me my Elements of muthafukkin persuasion.

[Chu]

Excellent.

Are there any reviews for it on MX/Sputnik?

I'm thinking of checking out some new music...

[jpshortstuff]

"You must spread some reputation around before giving it to eug008 again"

thanks mucho for Chroma Key

[Luc214]

What's Dream Theater's tuning?

I tuned to CFBEGC but the song Honor Thy Father didn't sound right. Then I tuned to C F Bb Eb G C but it still wasn't right. The first couple riffs were fine but the chord at 00:24 didn't sound anything like in the song. Is my tuning wrong or do I have a bad tab?

The tab I'm using says to do it:

|-------------|-------------|---------|
|-------------|-------------|---------|
|-------------|-------------|-9-9-9---|
|-------------|-------------|-7-7-7---|
|-2---2---2---|-2---2---2---|-5-5-5---|
|-0---0---0---|-0---0---0---|---------|

[Luc214]

EDIT.


HAHAHAHA

Somehow I had tuned it to CFABbEbC

It's fine now.

[ghettoeddo]

haha good job :]

flagstaff? im from phx

[Atica]

That Crhoma Key song is amazing, can anyone send me the album?

Hey watch out this funny Majesty videos. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zACJNVVqDPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67FIBJYVHmU&NR
:lol:

[Happy]

Wow JM didn't take part in any of that.
What a boring guy.

[Atica]

:lol: yeh, he is just practicing on the bass guitar.

[eug008]

That Crhoma Key song is amazing, can anyone send me the album?

Hey watch out this funny Majesty videos. :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zACJNVVqDPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67FIBJYVHmU&NR
:lol:
I sent it to the DU so it should be out soon

[Atica]

Ok cool dude, thanks :thumb:

[Inkstar]

Haha, good times back in the Majesty days.

They had video cameras back then? >_>

[ghettoeddo]

oh zing.

dude it was only '85
NP: paradigm shift

[Inkstar]

I was kidding. :p

[eug008]

Whoa Ink, like long time man. How was the Coast?

[Inkstar]

Yeah great.

Depressed now though. Alot. Sucks.

[Aaron]

Anyone noticed Dream Theatre have turned into Muse?

Evidence: Never Enough

[Charlie Daniels]

Yeah I tottally agree. Their music is pretty pathetic and unimaginative these days.

[Happy]

Anyone noticed Dream Theatre have turned into Muse?

Evidence: Never Enough

Yeah, one song sounds like Muse.
THEY MUST BE MUSE!

[Clunge]

Muse > DT.



(Abuse ++)

[Happy]

meh I like them both but obviously I prefer DT :p

[Clunge]

Ditto, but obviously I prefer Muse :p.

NP: The Glass Prison

I'll leave now.

[Inkstar]

rofl @ that.

The song sounds like Muse on prupose - it's like their tribute to the band. They also reference U2 in I Walk Beside You.

Check out the references in the title track of that album - it's insane.

They havn't run out of ideas, trust me.

[eug008]

eh Muse = not so good imo.

[Crazy and Stupid]

rofl @ that.

The song sounds like Muse on prupose - it's like their tribute to the band. They also reference U2 in I Walk Beside You.

Check out the references in the title track of that album - it's insane.

They havn't run out of ideas, trust me.
their ideas are worthless. they are just music nerds.

[Chu]

Meh, opinions.

[Crazy and Stupid]

facts

[Inkstar]

Crazy?

[Chu]

facts
Fair enough.
I enjoy them, so whatever tag I get with that, I'll wear with pride :)

[Lord Abortion]

I like EOP, it's like TOT in parts, but more electronic.

[Shattered_Future]

I just downloaded the Live At Budokan video...tis pretty sweet, but one gripe that I have (I know it's an unbelievably stupid gripe) is that Mike Portnoy looks better suited to be playing chess at a school club than banging on drums.

[ThatOneDrummer]

why do you say that?

[ghettoeddo]

because he's MX's nightwish fanboy!

oh he changed it...haha

i love muse and DT both...but DT obviously kicks muse in oh...everything.
taht said, i downloaded most of the bootlegs you were handing around clunge :] major props

[Inkstar]

Agreed on MP's look on Budokan. He doesn't even look like MP. He looks some bogan off the street.

[bwnstl]

because he's MX's nightwish fanboy!

oh he changed it...haha

i love muse and DT both...but DT obviously kicks muse in oh...everything.
taht said, i downloaded most of the bootlegs you were handing around clunge :] major props

You mean everything except actual songwriting? :p

[Moses]

Hmmm...

I can't pick whether I like Muse or DT more. I love them both.

[Shattered_Future]

why do you say that?

I dunno, just his whole getup makes him look like a total nerd.

I don't like Muse too much.

[ghettoeddo]

You mean everything except actual songwriting? :p

get out :smoke:
they write better songs than you ;)

[bwnstl]

They do, but not better than Muse. It's honestly hard to decide who I like more though. I think Muse beats DT out, however it's only because of my own sentimental experiences related to them.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

If you've ever seen DT's video of Master of Puppets, he does the best grin, right as the shred solo starts, he's just grinning and spinning around on his whacky wheelboard, it's good.


Man I'll have to see that.
Sounds hilarious

[ghettoeddo]

They do, but not better than Muse. It's honestly hard to decide who I like more though. I think Muse beats DT out, however it's only because of my own sentimental experiences related to them.

well i guess that depends on your definition of "good songwriting."
i tend to like that almost disjunct songwriting style, where nothing's restricted and each song is just a huge amalgam of everyone's ideas, which is basically what dt does.

just a personal preference.

NP: raise the knife

[bwnstl]

Oh, I understand, when DT write good songs, they write really good songs. But sometimes they're just being technical for the sake of being technical, and then other times they're not necessarily being technical-they just write bad songs. This Dying Soul is something that comes to mind with the technicality problem. I love the song, but I'll take Hysteria or Knights of Cydonia over it any day. However, on the other hand, any song from the first disc of 6DOIT? Then it becomes a little tougher to play favorites.

[jpshortstuff]

everyone shutup about muse - dt>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>muse end of.
(/wonders what would happen if i posted that in a muse thread?)

on a dt related note... um... i got nothing.

[ghettoeddo]

Oh, I understand, when DT write good songs, they write really good songs. But sometimes they're just being technical for the sake of being technical, and then other times they're not necessarily being technical-they just write bad songs. This Dying Soul is something that comes to mind with the technicality problem. I love the song, but I'll take Hysteria or Knights of Cydonia over it any day. However, on the other hand, any song from the first disc of 6DOIT? Then it becomes a little tougher to play favorites.

oh i would totally agree that KoC > this dying soul. any day. any day.
but there are still some really technical songs i love like the dance of eternity

[bwnstl]

oh i would totally agree that KoC > this dying soul. any day. any day.
but there are still some really technical songs i love like the dance of eternity

Oh god, yes, that's one of my favorite DT songs.

[ghettoeddo]

what other thread ar eyou realy active in? not this one...but i've seen you somewhere. a lot.

[Chu]

Man I'll have to see that.
Sounds hilarious
Oh, it's epic.

Rigth when it comes up to him in the shred solo (He takes over mid way), he does the coolest metal keyboardist stance, left leg back, right leg forward, hunched over, going to crazy speeds. Oh man, just thinking about it gets me hot :o

Edit: Still haven't got the real Train of Thought yet, but I want it.

[ghettoeddo]

Oh, it's epic.

Rigth when it comes up to him in the shred solo (He takes over mid way), he does the coolest metal keyboardist stance, left leg back, right leg forward, hunched over, going to crazy speeds. Oh man, just thinking about it gets me hot :o

Edit: Still haven't got the real Train of Thought yet, but I want it.

:O WHATCHA DOIN SON?! get ittttt

[Chu]

:(

My finances aren't doing the best at the moment.. And I don't really have the patience to download music these days.

[Atica]

:lol: yeh, money is a great problem when you want to have the discography of your favorite band in original cd's. I only have Octavarium and ToT :upset:

[heavy metal kid]

:lol: yeh, money is a great problem when you want to have the discography of your favorite band in original cd's. I only have Octavarium and ToT :upset:

I'm only missing Falling into Infinity, Octavarium and Live Scenes. :cool:

[Atica]

I'm only missing Falling into Infinity, Octavarium and Live Scenes. :cool:

cool, one friend has all the cd's including the live ones and the dvd's.

[heavy metal kid]

cool, one friend has all the cd's including the live ones and the dvd's.

I have all the live albums on DVD, except for Once in a Livetime and the Uncovered show, those were only on CD.

[ghettoeddo]

haha not to be a hypocrite...but the only album i own in its "real" state is 8vm. but i have all the DVD's

[eug008]

and I still haven't even got Score yet. :mad: