PDA

View Full Version : Dream Theater


Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 [41] 42 43 44

Chu
08-16-2006, 08:24 PM
Awake > * imo.

Such a good album, from everyone involved. (Specially Petrucci :p)

Inkstar
08-16-2006, 08:43 PM
Nah man I love Awake. Infact I've been giving it a few fun throughs lately. Absolutely love it. Voices is becoming a quick favourite.

Atica
08-16-2006, 10:08 PM
Top 3:
1. Images and Words
2. Octavarium
3. SDoIT

GenuineImitation
08-16-2006, 11:59 PM
Yes, I always tap it on guitar for some reason though.


You tap it? I find that doing hammer ons is faster. Maybe its just me....

inassociationwithdeanlearner
08-17-2006, 06:42 AM
Yeah i tend to do hammer ons instead, tapping seems like a cooler way to do it but unnecissarily harder maybe.

I'm talking bout bass.

http://www.rhino.com/retrovid/VideoKeeper.lasso?Artist=Dream%20Theater

What has petrucci done to his hair:( he looks like morgan spurlock/kirk hammet/that guy from my name is earl and freddy mercury

Inkstar
08-17-2006, 08:13 AM
I LOVE Finally Free. Awesome ending to the album. Brilliant song.

Yeah, inassociation, that video looks AMAZING!!! But he's had his hair like that for a little while now lol.

Happy
08-18-2006, 06:47 PM
You tap it? I find that doing hammer ons is faster. Maybe its just me....
Maybe, I always found tapping faster and easier.

eighty d
08-18-2006, 10:18 PM
he looks like morgan spurlock/kirk hammet/that guy from my name is earl and freddy mercury

Gone In 60 Seconds anyone? He IS Nicholas Cage's younger brother (Kip or something).

eug008
08-19-2006, 01:53 AM
I LOVE Finally Free. Awesome ending to the album. Brilliant song.

Yeah, inassociation, that video looks AMAZING!!! But he's had his hair like that for a little while now lol.
Finally Free is the best on Scenes imo, just such a great song

ghettoeddo
08-19-2006, 03:28 AM
hmm looks like my post was deleted or didnt get posted???

is my internet working?? helllooo???

finally free seems a bit weak live imo...

hollowpainting
08-19-2006, 03:37 AM
hmm looks like my post was deleted or didnt get posted???

is my internet working?? helllooo???

finally free seems a bit weak live imo...
if your internet wasn't working, you wouldn't be on the site even trying to post.

Dream Theater is such a beautiful name. It's so open to vision.

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 03:38 AM
Ever heard their music or something?

hollowpainting
08-19-2006, 03:44 AM
Ever heard their music or something?
Yes. It's a construction of beauty, have you heard their music?

a_girl_brushed_red_x
08-19-2006, 03:46 AM
Yes. It's a construction of beauty, have you heard their music?
getting awfully philosphical arent we?

hollowpainting
08-19-2006, 03:50 AM
getting awfully philosphical arent we?
I do not believe so. We were engaging our intellectual minds in discussion of the band Dream Theater. What is wrong with that? What is everyones favorite song? Mine: Universal Mind(LTE), Panic Attack and In The Name God.

Lord Abortion
08-19-2006, 03:54 AM
Mine are Surrounded, Take away my pain and hm, probably solitary shell atm.
The second two change all the time though.

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 03:56 AM
It's "In the name of god" in case you wonder or care about that.

I think OVerture 1928, Dance of eternity, Blackwater Park, Beyond this life and Erotomania, for me.

And their covers opened up my musical tastes, yeah.

hollowpainting
08-19-2006, 03:56 AM
Mine are Surrounded, Take away my pain and hm, probably solitary shell atm.
The second two change all the time though.
Love your name. It's after Cradle Of Filth, right? Umm. I don't like Take Away My Pain. I wish to keep mine and express it. I agree, it's quite a song though. Very heavy emotionally, for me at least.

Lord Abortion
08-19-2006, 03:58 AM
Yeah, I love the ballads, and my username is indeed after the Cradle of Filth song...but I just like my noble title.

hollowpainting
08-19-2006, 04:03 AM
Yeah, I love the ballads, and my username is indeed after the Cradle of Filth song...but I just like my noble title.
They are beatiful. It brings quite a question about you though? Why thrive in such terrible name, while claiming to be noble? :)

Lord Abortion
08-19-2006, 04:06 AM
I could make a point about Irony, and even mention that it was making a satirical statement about the nobility and the somewhat less noble activities that their wealth and power allows and has allowed them to do in the past and present, but I won't. I just happened to be listening to a really good song when I was joining MX and thought it'd make a kinda punchy username.

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 04:47 AM
I thought that was like a name change you got in a later stage on MX :-0

Discoveries, discoveries.

Lord Abortion
08-19-2006, 04:51 AM
I thought that was like a name change you got in a later stage on MX :-0

Discoveries, discoveries.
Nah, I've always been Lord Abortion, never felt like changing it at all.
Never been one of those nubs who feels the need to get a namechange, then change it back, then hange it back to the original, then change it back again, then change it back yet again.
You know?

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 04:56 AM
Nah, I've always been Lord Abortion, never felt like changing it at all.
Never been one of those nubs who feels the need to get a namechange, then change it back, then hange it back to the original, then change it back again, then change it back yet again.
You know?
I just changed it once, anyway.

<_<

On a related note, I always had that impression, you know because it's rare to see people who use capital letters for their first user name. Probably because most of us are used to just using undersocres and lower case on the rest of the internet names or something like that.

Lord Abortion
08-19-2006, 04:58 AM
That's because MX was the first Internet thing I really did.
and I'm not a dumbass.
and that was a dig at Jevi, not you.

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 05:02 AM
That was slightly implied anyway. :p

I mean, that that wasn't directed at me me.

eug008
08-19-2006, 05:53 AM
It's "In the name of god" in case you wonder or care about that.

I think OVerture 1928, Dance of eternity, Blackwater Park, Beyond this life and Erotomania, for me.

And their covers opened up my musical tastes, yeah.

That's Opeth stupid :smash:

Pretty sick song too

Happy
08-19-2006, 09:01 AM
Nah, I've always been Lord Abortion, never felt like changing it at all.
Never been one of those nubs who feels the need to get a namechange, then change it back, then hange it back to the original, then change it back again, then change it back yet again.
You know?
lol. It wasn't that many times.

TojesDolan
08-19-2006, 01:18 PM
That's Opeth stupid :smash:

Pretty sick song too
I know I was confusing the lady.

<_<
>_>

Inkstar
08-19-2006, 05:55 PM
>_>

My favourite song's atm would have to be I Walk Beside You, Under A Glass Moon, The Root Of All Evil, Sacrificed Sons and Panic Attack. (in no particular order).

I'm really on a new level of 'can't wait' for this DVD....... arghh I NEED IT!

eug008
08-19-2006, 08:46 PM
How long till it comes out?

Inkstar
08-20-2006, 02:43 AM
In Australia? Not sure. I need to find somewhere to order the DVD cause they changed it at amazon.co.uk to be region 2. Still got the CD's on order though.

eug008
08-20-2006, 04:11 AM
I could only find the CD in Australia which I posted a few pages back, it's pretty cheap too ($30)

Inkstar
08-20-2006, 05:47 AM
Yeah I'm finding the CD's everywhere, but can't find the DVD. :( ARGHHH IT'S PISSING ME OFF!

eug008
08-20-2006, 06:08 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G2YCRE/sr=8-1/qid=1156006214/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7168906-0151134?ie=UTF8

Gigantour CD samples \m/

TGP/Panic Attack sounds pretty damn good

Inkstar
08-20-2006, 08:32 AM
omfg can't sample Panic Attack. That'd be ****ing right.

EDIT: SCREW THAT! Glass Prison is labeled wrong and is actually Panic Attack. :D Sounds too raced though.

HNLzero
08-20-2006, 12:54 PM
I'm really going to have to watch this VH1 Classic airing of Score. I think this is the first time I've ever seen Dream Theater have a TV appearance, even if its like obscure digital cable.

Inkstar
08-20-2006, 05:27 PM
Wish I could watch it here in Australia. :(

Happy
08-20-2006, 06:18 PM
What the hell, DT on VH1 Classic?
I hope I can get that here.

eug008
08-20-2006, 06:37 PM
Someone will record it and upload it for us, they will right???

Happy
08-20-2006, 06:46 PM
I read the DT newsletter. There's a program on after it hosted by JP and MP. I'm more interested in that as I'm getting the Score DVD anyway :p

Atica
08-20-2006, 07:48 PM
I don't even have VH1 :(

hollowpainting
08-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Someone will record it and upload it for us, they will right???
That would be just groovy.

Chu
08-20-2006, 08:00 PM
There's some metal program on after \m/

Hosted by JP or MP.

Inkstar
08-21-2006, 02:56 AM
*dies*

Wait... Chu... do you get VH1 on Austar/foxtel here in Aus?

Chu
08-21-2006, 04:57 AM
Neg. I still have analog TV!

I just read it on Blabbermouth :p

/My homepage is Blabbermouth (Actually it's google.com/ig, but I've got a little snippet of Blabbermouth stories).

eug008
08-21-2006, 05:41 AM
meh someone will probably post it on dimeadozen

Inkstar
08-21-2006, 05:42 AM
Oh. I didn't mean do YOU have it... I mean can anyone get it on cable tv in Aus? Cause my friend has it and I could go round there to watch it.

eug008
08-21-2006, 05:50 AM
Looks like it

http://www.foxtel.com.au/channel/lineup.html

It says Digital only tho

jpshortstuff
08-21-2006, 06:53 AM
yeah, im interested in that metal program by JP+MP too, don't think i'll get it here though.

Chu
08-21-2006, 06:54 AM
Yeah, my sister has Foxtel digital, dunno if she has VH1 though...

Happy
08-21-2006, 06:54 AM
You're from the UK too aren't you Jp?
I'll let you know if I can find it.

jpshortstuff
08-21-2006, 06:57 AM
You're from the UK too aren't you Jp?
I'll let you know if I can find it.
i am indeed. i can get VH1 classic but no mention of DT. its all pop/rap anyway :-/

ghettoeddo
08-21-2006, 11:58 AM
i wonder if i can get VH1 on my laptop here at my dorm...

eug008
08-21-2006, 06:34 PM
You can get VH1 on teh net??? Where?

Inkstar
08-22-2006, 03:55 AM
SPEAK GHETTO!!

I asked my friend who has Austar Digital today if he has it, and he said he has VH1 but doesn't think he has heard of VH1 classic...

eug008
08-22-2006, 04:08 AM
This looks bad guys, I requested someone to record and upload it on dimeadozen tho so we may be lucky

HNLzero
08-22-2006, 04:21 AM
Honestly guys, don't get too excited by the "Metal Mania" that MP and JP are hosting. It's mainly 80's metal, either hair or Manowar or something.


I'm totally excited for the condensed version of SCORE though. It's freakin' DREAM THEATER on TELEVISION.

Inkstar
08-22-2006, 05:33 AM
I'm excited about that metal mania thing, cause its MP and JP! Who cares what the content is. Just seeing them is awesome!

And I just re-pre-ordered SCORE from the UK, cause it won't be coming out in Region 4 formatting for a while yet.

jpshortstuff
08-22-2006, 05:53 AM
listened to JRs Keyboard solo from LSFNY last night... :eek: hes amazing!
wish that they put it on the DVD that would have been awesome.
the whole piano bit at the start is amazing.

eug008
08-22-2006, 08:39 AM
I'm excited about that metal mania thing, cause its MP and JP! Who cares what the content is. Just seeing them is awesome!

And I just re-pre-ordered SCORE from the UK, cause it won't be coming out in Region 4 formatting for a while yet.
Where did you find the info about teh DVD in Aus?

Happy
08-22-2006, 10:28 AM
I'm excited about that metal mania thing, cause its MP and JP! Who cares what the content is. Just seeing them is awesome!

And I just re-pre-ordered SCORE from the UK, cause it won't be coming out in Region 4 formatting for a while yet.
But it won't work on your DVD player?

Lord Abortion
08-22-2006, 11:57 AM
Is it just me, or does James forget the "and sometimes all I want to do is wait" line on the WT version of Surrounded?

IbanezSamurai
08-22-2006, 09:07 PM
Ok, this may have been posted before but...
Mastodon is talking **** about DT!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/Sirr0/mastondreamfk3.jpg

Lord Abortion
08-22-2006, 09:09 PM
Ok, this may have been posted before but...
Mastodon is talking **** about DT!
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/Sirr0/mastondreamfk3.jpg
Wow, it would be slightly better if a band with actual musical talent were slagging them off, but Mastadon?!
Oh, James sings like an Opera singer?
And that's a bad thing why?

Kreator2112
08-22-2006, 09:56 PM
Is DT bashing a trend these days?

Lol @ Lahio apologizing

Chu
08-22-2006, 10:07 PM
DT bashing will always be popular.

Mastodon are pretty ignorant though, so who cares what their opinion is?

I didn't have to read past the comment about Myung to know that they're not worthy.

bwnstl
08-22-2006, 10:46 PM
Wow, I really like Mastodon but I just lost a lot of respect for them. Anyone that needs to talk **** is insecure or something. And Ollie, although their comments are nearly unforgivable, Mastodon actually do have talent....

pep
08-22-2006, 10:53 PM
That was just plain stupid. I mean, come on, calling Myung a little chinese girl. Thats really low and lame.

eighty d
08-22-2006, 11:34 PM
I can appreciate Mastodon's comments for irony's sake. Making fun of another band's music, and saying how your band is so much cooler than them... and then saying the main reason is a lack of ego... priceless.

eug008
08-23-2006, 02:37 AM
Mastodon will never be as good as Dream Theater.

Happy
08-23-2006, 06:11 AM
Aren't Mastodon like the most gingerest band in the world?

jpshortstuff
08-23-2006, 06:22 AM
/is ginger
hey :mad:

nobut that just low what they're asayin. even if i don't like a band or think that their doing something with they're music that goes too far or something, i'd still think well its all different people expressing themselves through their music in different ways.
[/rant]

Happy
08-23-2006, 06:25 AM
:p I kid.

I just fail to see how Mastodon could take the piss out of them for being better musicians and wearing leather pants with cheesy hair.

jpshortstuff
08-23-2006, 06:27 AM
yeah that sucks. they don't all wear leather pants nowdays anyway - only KJL and JM (possibly JP - im always too dazzled to notice what hes wearing).

EDIT: +JR doesnt have any hair. and JPs is in no way cheesy.

Inkstar
08-23-2006, 07:52 AM
Where did you find the info about teh DVD in Aus?

Guy over at the MP forum who's from WA.

But it won't work on your DVD player?

Got a multi-region one. And I can make a copy if it that will remove the region.

eug008
08-23-2006, 08:32 AM
Ah damn that sucks bad. Hope the Gigantour DVD will come out on time or I'll just pick it up when I go to G2

Inkstar
08-23-2006, 08:53 AM
G3*?

Btw Mastodon are immature panzy boys.

eug008
08-23-2006, 09:03 AM
*Gigantour 2, why would they have the Gigantour DVD at G3??

Happy
08-23-2006, 09:04 AM
Because there was high demand seeing as no-one could get enough of DT.

Inkstar
08-23-2006, 09:31 PM
*Gigantour 2, why would they have the Gigantour DVD at G3??

Sorry. Got completely mixed up there. I think I was thinking that the Gigantour DVD is actually G2... yeah. :P

Moses
08-23-2006, 09:47 PM
lol I mean Mastodon is awesome and everything but yeah, talking **** about other bands is just dumb.

I do hate Labrie with all my heart now. He's so FLAT on Live at Budokan and alot of other footage I've seen. Sure he's got a range but his voice can't take the style of music he's trying to sing.

eug008
08-24-2006, 02:18 AM
His vocals wernt' up to standard on Live at Budokan but they are all good now

hollowpainting
08-24-2006, 02:51 AM
lol I mean Mastodon is awesome and everything but yeah, talking **** about other bands is just dumb.

I do hate Labrie with all my heart now. He's so FLAT on Live at Budokan and alot of other footage I've seen. Sure he's got a range but his voice can't take the style of music he's trying to sing.
I hate when musicians bash each other. If they play so well, why!!! Mastodon is quite good, but I enjoy Dream Theater far more. Petrucci is quite a nice man and great guitarist.

Inkstar
08-24-2006, 03:32 AM
lol I mean Mastodon is awesome and everything but yeah, talking **** about other bands is just dumb.

I do hate Labrie with all my heart now. He's so FLAT on Live at Budokan and alot of other footage I've seen. Sure he's got a range but his voice can't take the style of music he's trying to sing.

Wait till you get SCORE. He's back to his awesomeness!

Lord Abortion
08-24-2006, 07:29 AM
I'm not even going to rise to the James Bashing, we've been over this, and I can't be arsed to argue with you again, you have your opinion on him, and I have mine, we'll leave it at that.

Masturdon aren't much good, IMO.

ghettoeddo
08-24-2006, 09:30 AM
james was atrociously flat on budokan yes...but from what i've heard on score, he's back at full power.

i heard a streaming mp3 of innocence faded and we know that juicy spot at 2:22 or so...nailed it. NAILED it. i was so excited.

only like...A WEEK! ^^

Happy
08-24-2006, 09:57 AM
Yeah man, I can't wait. I have to wait a bit longer for you guys, so no spoiling it :angry:

pate
08-24-2006, 11:09 AM
I hate when musicians bash each other. If they play so well, why!!! Mastodon is quite good, but I enjoy Dream Theater far more. Petrucci is quite a nice man and great guitarist.

Mastodon were jerks to me when I met them, so I don't expect too much from them.

TojesDolan
08-24-2006, 11:18 AM
It's strange how success creates such large egos on people. :-0

We should all be like... I don't know. Sebastian Bach.

Lord Abortion
08-24-2006, 11:24 AM
Because he's just awesome

<3 Seba

eug008
08-25-2006, 02:01 AM
james was atrociously flat on budokan yes...but from what i've heard on score, he's back at full power.

i heard a streaming mp3 of innocence faded and we know that juicy spot at 2:22 or so...nailed it. NAILED it. i was so excited.

only like...A WEEK! ^^
Damn it's more like a month or so for me :mad:

inassociationwithdeanlearner
08-25-2006, 05:03 AM
Mastodon were jerks to me when I met them, so I don't expect too much from them.
Do go on...



But yeah its more like 4 days for me:D apparently

Lord Abortion
08-25-2006, 05:04 AM
I pre-ordered the CD yesterday, it was about half the price of the DVD.

Chu
08-25-2006, 05:52 AM
Dudes!!!

VH1 Classic will be airing a one-hour, abbreviated version of the "Score" DVD several times beginning tonight (Friday, August 25) at 9:00 p.m. Each airing is preceeded with a one-hour episode of "Metal Mania" co-hosted by Mike Portnoy and John Petrucci.

Edit: Removed for space.

eug008
08-25-2006, 07:45 AM
Ain't workin :mad:

Chu
08-25-2006, 07:50 AM
I see...

Check http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/ about 1/3rd down the page at the time of this post the article is there.

eug008
08-25-2006, 08:51 AM
Oh it's good now, thanks it looks great

IbanezSamurai
08-25-2006, 04:25 PM
DT on VH1 Classic today at 9
I Walk Beside You looks really awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINn2lh-uJ8

Happy
08-25-2006, 04:53 PM
Sounds awesome. :D

Moses
08-25-2006, 05:37 PM
DT on VH1 Classic today at 9
I Walk Beside You looks really awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINn2lh-uJ8
Awesome, Labrie doesn't make my ears bleed.

AND the vocal harmonies are spot on.

HNLzero
08-25-2006, 10:03 PM
Damn that was awesome.

Daven
08-25-2006, 10:07 PM
Well, its been some time since i listened to DT. I'm thinking of maybe learning As I Am, but its going to be very hard though.

lak89
08-25-2006, 10:55 PM
that was awesome, DT was just about perfect in this one

Atica
08-26-2006, 12:19 AM
Well, its been some time since i listened to DT. I'm thinking of maybe learning As I Am, but its going to be very hard though.
lol Yeh, because I am the guitar player and must play that hard solo. :)

GenuineImitation
08-26-2006, 12:42 AM
Im watching Scores on VH1 Classic right now. Its ****ing amazing.

eug008
08-26-2006, 12:45 AM
Am I the only one who dosen't really like the ToT solo's?

GenuineImitation
08-26-2006, 12:46 AM
Am I the only one who dosen't really like the ToT solo's?


I love all things music that come out of Petrucci's fingertips.

Chu
08-26-2006, 01:27 AM
I love all things music that come out of Petrucci's fingertips.
lol!

... 123 :p

lak89
08-26-2006, 06:01 AM
I agree it was more of a shredfest on ToT, but i still dig it

Happy
08-26-2006, 06:54 AM
sometimes it does get excessive, but I still love it.

Woo, only a week and a bit until my DVD arrives.

Lord Abortion
08-26-2006, 08:31 AM
4th of september:)

eug008
08-26-2006, 09:05 AM
So about a year ago I was gettin into Dream Theater and came across As I Am on limewire except later found out that it actualy was some other song, now I just rememberd it and I will upload it for you guys, can someone tell me what song it is?

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=446D07D6473027F7

lak89
08-26-2006, 09:18 AM
^it doesn't sound like dream theater at all, all i know is that it isn't by them. I tried googling the lyrics and nothing relavent came up, this is weird

eug008
08-26-2006, 09:34 AM
Yeh I know it isn't Dream Theater but it's a pretty cool song neverless, weird tho I'll try google again

Happy
08-26-2006, 10:03 AM
Oh yeah, I remember the same thing happened to me a while back with In The Name of God.
Some band released their stuff pretending it was a DT leak. I forget the name, but it's a while back in this threa.

Daven
08-26-2006, 11:20 AM
lol Yeh, because I am the guitar player and must play that hard solo. :)
:lol:

Ohh well....

Moses
08-26-2006, 11:24 AM
I'm pretty sure he made it a shred-fest on ToT on purpose. Just look at the lyrics for As I Am.

Anyway I watched Score on VH1 Classic. It was pretty good.

Inkstar
08-26-2006, 01:59 PM
And then He said, LET THERE BE REGION 4!

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/id/925780

Rejoice, Australia.

eighty d
08-26-2006, 02:41 PM
So about a year ago I was gettin into Dream Theater and came across As I Am on limewire except later found out that it actualy was some other song, now I just rememberd it and I will upload it for you guys, can someone tell me what song it is?

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=446D07D6473027F7

Without listening to it I'm going to venture a guess and say Superior - Not With Me. That happened to me too when I was first looking for ToT songs too.

8VM
08-26-2006, 08:46 PM
Octavarium is one of the best albums....but Train of Thought owns all

gillygan
08-26-2006, 08:56 PM
Anyway I watched Score on VH1 Classic. It was pretty good.

I saw that on there. I didn't get to watch it though...

So I finally got Budokan. Its sooo awsome. I wish it had "The Glass Prison" on there though.

eug008
08-26-2006, 09:06 PM
And then He said, LET THERE BE REGION 4!

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/music/id/925780

Rejoice, Australia.
Thank god, not too long now and it's pretty cheap :cool:

Inkstar
08-27-2006, 02:27 AM
Thank god, not too long now and it's pretty cheap :cool:

Yep. And good release date too. DT region 4 DVD's usually take a couple of months to come out here.

eug008
08-27-2006, 08:25 AM
Oh yeah, I remember the same thing happened to me a while back with In The Name of God.
Some band released their stuff pretending it was a DT leak. I forget the name, but it's a while back in this threa.
It's actually quite a dumb idea of doing that to get exposure if you think about it, no one will actually know your band name or who you are.

8VM
08-27-2006, 12:14 PM
anybody agree that the dance of eternity is underrated

Lord Abortion
08-27-2006, 12:44 PM
SFAM instrumentals>Other ones.

ghettoeddo
08-27-2006, 12:48 PM
overture 1928 > everything else

score in 2 days betches :]

NP los lonely boys-my way

the2stranger
08-27-2006, 01:23 PM
anybody agree that the dance of eternity is underrated
Yes, that song is just so awesome.
I love it.

mike-o
08-27-2006, 01:30 PM
what do you guys think about liquid tension experiment? I'm starting to get into it, my favorite part about DT is the instrumentals, and that's all LTE is

Dragon_Prince
08-27-2006, 01:31 PM
what do you guys think about liquid tension experiment? I'm starting to get into it, my favorite part about DT is the instrumentals, and that's all LTE is


Only LTE has a better bassist, IMO

the2stranger
08-27-2006, 01:31 PM
I almost bought II by LTE yesterdya, but it was too expensive :(

Lord Abortion
08-27-2006, 01:33 PM
My opinion is...it doesn't have James Labrie, so what's the point?

bwnstl
08-27-2006, 01:53 PM
Only LTE has a better bassist, IMO

Levin is damn good, but I actually prefer Myung's style.

8VM
08-27-2006, 01:58 PM
Myung>Levin

the2stranger
08-27-2006, 02:01 PM
Myung and Levin are equal imo, it's just Myung never gets any fun parts to play.
He always follows Petrucci, I'd love to see some more creativity from him, but skill wise, he's on par with Levin.

8VM
08-27-2006, 02:02 PM
I love the bass on 8vm...the song

eug008
08-28-2006, 01:55 AM
Yeh it's pretty cool

NP: 8vm off SCORE!

Happy
08-28-2006, 02:27 AM
Exactly a week to go :D

Crazy and Stupid
08-28-2006, 05:47 AM
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489704

Looks like Dream Theater aren't so great after all.

Inkstar
08-28-2006, 07:33 AM
Yeh it's pretty cool

NP: 8vm off SCORE!

HOW?! Bitch.

eug008
08-28-2006, 09:01 AM
It magicly appeared through my computer by unknown ways, I could upload it for you's in a few days?

GenuineImitation
08-28-2006, 09:17 AM
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=489704

Looks like Dream Theater aren't so great after all.


All that your link proves is that some members of the R&M forum dislike both I&W and DT. Musical taste is preference. Just because someone doesnt like something, doesnt mean we all have to follow in their footsteps.

There is no need for your post because no one here is going to stop listening to DT because of your opinion.

Apocalyptic Raids
08-28-2006, 09:35 AM
Nice avatar, GI.

GenuineImitation
08-28-2006, 09:39 AM
Nice avatar, GI.


Thank you.

pate
08-28-2006, 04:16 PM
Hibria FTW

Happy
08-28-2006, 04:32 PM
Hibria?

GenuineImitation
08-28-2006, 04:34 PM
Hibria?

Its my avatar. They are a Power/Speed metal band. They are very good and addicting.

pate
08-28-2006, 04:34 PM
The band whose album cover is his avatar.

Beaten pwnt

Chu
08-28-2006, 06:52 PM
All that your link proves is that some members of the R&M forum dislike both I&W and DT. Musical taste is preference. Just because someone doesnt like something, doesnt mean we all have to follow in their footsteps.

There is no need for your post because no one here is going to stop listening to DT because of your opinion.
I think he's a recovering DT addict :)

He always likes to pop in and check on how we're doing. (Plus ask us if we're tired of DT yet :p)

Kreator2112
08-28-2006, 07:02 PM
NP: Dream Theater - Honor Thy Father

What happened to my 'What are you listening to now?' thread?

Greatest thread ever.

Tyr
08-28-2006, 07:04 PM
It got deleted.

Kreator2112
08-28-2006, 07:09 PM
What was the reason behind it?

Tyr
08-28-2006, 07:12 PM
It's illegal, I think. It's in the rules.

GenuineImitation
08-29-2006, 12:31 AM
I think he's a recovering DT addict :)

He always likes to pop in and check on how we're doing. (Plus ask us if we're tired of DT yet :p)


I must have missed that.

Thats kind of lame, but whatever.

NP: DT - Hollow Years

eug008
08-29-2006, 01:47 AM
Ah yeh thats Crazy and Stupid for ya, there is another What Your Listening to thread in the "Other Music" forum btw

ThisGuy
08-29-2006, 02:04 AM
For those of you who don't have VH1 classic and couln't watch Metal Mania, you could find the DT inverview on youtube.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gbhMlF6VUw0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eZCwKa1uTzE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gbhMlF6VUw0

And I just preordered Score from amazon a minute ago. Hopefully it'll arrive by thursday.

Happy
08-29-2006, 06:46 AM
Thanks :D

GenuineImitation
08-29-2006, 08:22 AM
I am leaving to go get my copy of Score in about 2 and a half hours when the store opens. I got up early because of the excitement.

Crazy and Stupid
08-29-2006, 08:27 AM
All that your link proves is that some members of the R&M forum dislike both I&W and DT. Musical taste is preference. Just because someone doesnt like something, doesnt mean we all have to follow in their footsteps.

There is no need for your post because no one here is going to stop listening to DT because of your opinion.
Well tbh I just can't stand the thought of you hippies wasting your life constantly thinking about such a crappy trio that DT is. :amaze:

LJJPLJ
08-29-2006, 08:50 AM
whoot the Dream Theater DVD score comes out today!

Crazy and Stupid
08-29-2006, 08:55 AM
Whoopee! :rolleyes:

Toaster
08-29-2006, 09:17 AM
Hey, if you like Dream Theater, read the Mastodon interview in the most recent Guitar World.

Some choice samples: GW: You guys definitely have prog elements to your sound, and yet you're exciting and valid- you're cool. Why do you think you're cooler than a band like, say, Dream Theater?

Brett Hinds: Because we don't have a little Chinese girl playing bass! [laughs]

GW: Yikes!

Hinds: And they dress all gay, too. I mean, look at them: they wear those cheesy leather pants. The lead singer especially: he's got that really gay thing going on with his hair. Plus, he sings like a ****ing opera singer and ****. Their hair, their clothes, their music... They're gay.

:lol:

jpshortstuff
08-29-2006, 09:26 AM
^^been discussed already im afraid

Toaster
08-29-2006, 09:31 AM
Ah. Must have missed that, sorry. I figured you guys would have a lynch mob going.

jpshortstuff
08-29-2006, 09:34 AM
page 506 onwards, it was quite recently.

thanks for those youtubelinks of Metal Mania, although the first and last are the same.

Rainmaker
08-29-2006, 11:59 AM
oh damn, roll on next monday!!!! i want score already!!

Lord Abortion
08-29-2006, 01:29 PM
Uh, again, what's wrong with singing like an Opera singer.
I would advise Mastadon's singer to come back when he can sing.

Happy
08-29-2006, 02:03 PM
Huh, what makes you say that?

Lord Abortion
08-29-2006, 02:08 PM
Huh, what makes you say that?
The Mastadon thing mentioned again before.
I really have problems with a singer with little talent saying an obviously trained and talented vocalist like James isn't any good.

Toaster
08-29-2006, 02:10 PM
Not even that though. He had a problem with LaBrie's "gay hair". The fact that he disliked the operatic style was secondary to the dislike of the gayness of his hair. You sort of have to read the whole article, it really sheds some light on that Hinds guy's attitude towards music. He basically sees it as a vehicle for expressing his drugged-up fantasies.

ghettoeddo
08-29-2006, 02:45 PM
im sure a guy who sees music as a vehicle for "drugged-up fantasies" has many poignant things to say about music in general :]

score's out...but i gotta wait till tomorrow :(too many classes today.

on a side note, college life is ****ing amazing.

Happy
08-29-2006, 02:47 PM
I still have to wait 6 more days.

ghettoeddo
08-29-2006, 02:48 PM
im sorry man.
im gonna get both Cd and DVD...probably have to shell $50 or so huh.

Happy
08-29-2006, 02:58 PM
It's all worth it though.

Toaster
08-29-2006, 03:27 PM
Why is it worth it?? They just finished releasing a live album. You're possibly missing songs off Octavarium, that's it.

Happy
08-29-2006, 03:29 PM
Sorry?

Toaster
08-29-2006, 06:01 PM
Apology accepted. :p

Nah I didn't mean to sound angry. I just think it's a really underhanded cash grab, and I don't support it.

Lord Abortion
08-29-2006, 08:12 PM
DREAM THEATER guitarist John Petrucci has posted the following message in his official forum:

"Just a little update on what I've been up to lately. I know it's been some time since the last one! I've been enjoying some much needed time off since the end of DREAM THEATER's 'Octavarium' world tour this past April. It was quite a long tour as most of you know and we were fortunate enough not only to play in front of many familiar faces, but to brand new audiences around the world as well. Our forthcoming DVD from that tour, titled 'Score', will be out on August 29th and I'm really psyched about it! It was shot on the last date of the tour at Radio City Music Hall in NYC. I know a lot of you were there! Check out Mike Portnoy and myself hosting 'Metal Mania' along with a special abbreviated preview of 'Score' this weekend on VH1 Classic.

"This summer I've been basically hanging out with my wife and kids enjoying the hot weather activities, working out and playing some guitar. Everything I love to do! In just a couple of weeks now I'll be back in the studio with the boys working on the next DREAM THEATER musical adventure. This fall I will also take part in two G3 tours: One in South America and the other in Australia. My first time down under! Both should be a lot of fun as always. Finally, the Ernie Ball crew and I have been finallizing the details on the next incarnation of the John Petrucci Music Man signature guitar and hope to announce its debut very soon."
Check this **** out:D

Happy
08-29-2006, 08:16 PM
a new record next year?
Let's hope so. I'm already getting excited.

Luc214
08-29-2006, 08:22 PM
Hey, if you like Dream Theater, read the Mastodon interview in the most recent Guitar World.

Some choice samples: GW: You guys definitely have prog elements to your sound, and yet you're exciting and valid- you're cool. Why do you think you're cooler than a band like, say, Dream Theater?

Brett Hinds: Because we don't have a little Chinese girl playing bass! [laughs]

GW: Yikes!

Hinds: And they dress all gay, too. I mean, look at them: they wear those cheesy leather pants. The lead singer especially: he's got that really gay thing going on with his hair. Plus, he sings like a ****ing opera singer and ****. Their hair, their clothes, their music... They're gay.

:lol:

That's it now I'm boycotting Mastodon. :angry:

Mr.Metalton
08-29-2006, 09:53 PM
Ok i did buy both the dvd and cd and it was like maybe 40 bucks at the most together and it was totally worth it. because when i bought Live at budokan i was mad that Itunes is like nazis against having all dream theater songs for sale and i couldnt buy them seprately from the live at budokan album.

lak89
08-29-2006, 11:01 PM
that's some great development from them there, i'm already excited about their new record. Score is out here!

HNLzero
08-29-2006, 11:32 PM
I picked up Score (DVD) today while out in Boston.


It's scrumtrillescent.

ghettoeddo
08-30-2006, 12:19 AM
good.

hey HNLzero...nice avatar. hyori lee eh? ;)

WUTE going to pick it up in a few hours...hopefuly it's in stock...

i love petrucci. what a funny guy.

GenuineImitation
08-30-2006, 01:50 AM
I have watched the concert twice so far and have watched the documentary once so far. Myung talks alot in the documentary. Not as much as the others, but much than normal.

eug008
08-30-2006, 02:37 AM
Damn the still a few days before the DVD comes out in AUS

Inkstar
08-30-2006, 05:37 AM
My SCORE CD's got shipped today! :D

DVD's are still a few days away though. :(

Lord Abortion
08-30-2006, 07:22 AM
Has the DVD got a commentary on it?

Happy
08-30-2006, 07:32 AM
I hope so.

I'll probablly get it a week late though :(

Inkstar
08-30-2006, 07:47 AM
Nah, I don't think it has commentary.

Everything I've been hearing about it is EXTREMELY positive though! :D CAN'T WAIT!!!

Happy
08-30-2006, 07:48 AM
:(
Commentary makes it so much better. I guess it'll be alright on it's own though.

jpshortstuff
08-30-2006, 07:49 AM
the documentry should be enough to quench commentary thirst poseeblay. although the commentry on LSFNY was pretty good...

eug008
08-30-2006, 08:59 AM
Yeh, I actually only watched it with the commentry a few days ago, totally worth the hour or so :cool:

ghettoeddo
08-30-2006, 09:16 AM
myung's voice is so hard to hear.

just a few more hours...

GenuineImitation
08-30-2006, 10:08 AM
myung's voice is so hard to hear.

just a few more hours...


Yes, he is very hard to hear. I had to raise the volume to hear him, and then was blown away when some music came on.

Its a very interesting documentary.

jpshortstuff
08-30-2006, 10:13 AM
well now you've all spoiled the surprise :upset:

GenuineImitation
08-30-2006, 10:15 AM
well now you've all spoiled the surprise :upset:


What suprise?

jpshortstuff
08-30-2006, 10:17 AM
the surpise that Myung talks.

also you're making me all anticpating of the goodness to come.

GenuineImitation
08-30-2006, 10:17 AM
the surpise that Myung talks.

also you're making me all anticpating of the goodness to come.


Im sorry :upset:

Can I be forgiven?

jpshortstuff
08-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Im sorry :upset:

Can I be forgiven?
i guess a i can forgive a fellow Dream Theater fan.

btw didja see yourself+the shoutout/sign? (it was you right?)

GenuineImitation
08-30-2006, 10:21 AM
i guess a i can forgive a fellow Dream Theater fan.

btw didja see yourself+the shoutout/sign? (it was you right?)


Thank you!

It was me with the sign, but I fear I may have said too much already.

Happy
08-30-2006, 12:26 PM
Was it on it?
I demand to know!

bwnstl
08-30-2006, 04:34 PM
Imitation, I don't recognize you without the Tony Shalhoub avatar. :(

Happy
08-30-2006, 06:03 PM
"Also, pay special attention to the bands "thank you's" to the crowd at the end of the night. Due to union fees at RCMH the band went 3 minutes past the 11PM curfew saying goodbye to the sell out crowd, costing them an extra $30,000! This strict union policy is the same reason why when I introed the band that night I had to do it from off the stage instead of on it".

**** me :eek:

eug008
08-30-2006, 06:16 PM
It cost the $30 grand extra? damn that sucks

Happy
08-30-2006, 06:20 PM
Yeah for 3 minutes.

I spose it gets bands to stick to curfews.

Lionheart1827
08-30-2006, 09:25 PM
Picked up Score DVD today. Incredible.

Considering I was there in orchestra seating makes it 2000 times better.:thumb:

pep
08-30-2006, 09:47 PM
Did you see yourself in there? It would be awesome if you buy a dvd and get to see yourself in there.

Lionheart1827
08-30-2006, 09:48 PM
Did you see yourself in there? It would be awesome if you buy a dvd and get to see yourself in there.

A couple of times you can faintly see me. But theres so many shots of the crowd so I'm sure I missed so many other shots with me in it.:thumb:

Inkstar
08-30-2006, 09:57 PM
Haha you guys are a while behind on the news. That $30k over-time charge has been circulating the net for a while lol. :P

Just saying that, though. Cause I'm over on the mp.com forum, and that's where most news about DT/MP comes out first.

For the record, I believe MP was informed of how tight the show would be with their curfew sometime during Octavarium I think. That's why they quickly rush on and off for their thank you's/encore. MP said he had it perfectly timed out that they would make the curfew, but there were a few small delays at the start of the show and during the interval I believe.

Lionheart1827
08-30-2006, 09:58 PM
Wow I just remembered how enormous Petrucci's biceps are. They are like the size of my head.:eek:

Petrucci lives like 10 minutes away from me. I wish I could meet him sometime in a guitar shop or something. :thumb:

ghettoeddo
08-30-2006, 10:48 PM
i just picked it up today...i got the last ****ing copy in the store buahahahhaha


it's amazing. labrie's voice REALLY took a turn for the better. thank god.

GENUINE...ARE WE ON THERE?! ARE WE FAMOUS!?!?! idk where to look! i know you were on myung's side?

Lionheart1827
08-30-2006, 10:58 PM
i just picked it up today...i got the last ****ing copy in the store buahahahhaha


it's amazing. labrie's voice REALLY took a turn for the better. thank god.

GENUINE...ARE WE ON THERE?! ARE WE FAMOUS!?!?! idk where to look! i know you were on myung's side?

I was on Petrucci's side in orchestra and like I said above, you can faintly see me wearing a white shirt, pretty faint that I'd have to take a screen cap and point it out. I'll do it some time.:thumb:

eug008
08-31-2006, 02:09 AM
Still a couple more days for me, can't wait

Inkstar
08-31-2006, 02:23 AM
Where you getting your copy, eug?

inassociationwithdeanlearner
08-31-2006, 03:45 AM
5 days till i can get it

inassociationwithdeanlearner
08-31-2006, 03:47 AM
i just picked it up today...i got the last ****ing copy in the store buahahahhaha


it's amazing. labrie's voice REALLY took a turn for the better. thank god.

GENUINE...ARE WE ON THERE?! ARE WE FAMOUS!?!?! idk where to look! i know you were on myung's side?
I think the guy with the sign was on myungs side yeah...i'll keep a look out for it when i get it.

eug008
08-31-2006, 03:51 AM
Where you getting your copy, eug?

From JB, they got it for $30 :cool:, do you have one up in Cairns?

Lord Abortion
08-31-2006, 04:22 AM
Yeah, I knew about the curfew thing a little while ago.

Chu
08-31-2006, 08:36 AM
Wow I just remembered how enormous Petrucci's biceps are. They are like the size of my head.:eek:
'Tis what happens when you play much guitar. It's happening to me (But not quite as extreme), I had no muslce, started playing guitar and BANG! :D

lak89
08-31-2006, 11:45 AM
i'm getting my copy tmr, both CD and DVD, ain't missing out at all on this one

Happy
08-31-2006, 01:53 PM
'Tis what happens when you play much guitar. It's happening to me (But not quite as extreme), I had no muslce, started playing guitar and BANG! :D
Didn't happen to me :(

Voyage34
08-31-2006, 02:31 PM
My copy of Score was posted today, probably won't arrive here until monday though :(

Can't wait.

ghettoeddo
08-31-2006, 03:02 PM
i just ran through it. absolutely fantastic. i felt the ending of octavarium was a little too rushed and thus slightly ruined that climactic feeling...but under those time restraints it was totally understandable. and it still gave me chills nevertheless.

the spirit carries on is absolutely fantastic :]

i think i saw the sign...but it was too far away to read anything. genuine, was it a HUGE white poster? i saw a big one and a smaller one to the very right

inassociationwithdeanlearner
08-31-2006, 03:07 PM
i just ran through it. absolutely fantastic. i felt the ending of octavarium was a little too rushed and thus slightly ruined that climactic feeling...but under those time restraints it was totally understandable. and it still gave me chills nevertheless.

the spirit carries on is absolutely fantastic :]

i think i saw the sign...but it was too far away to read anything. genuine, was it a HUGE white poster? i saw a big one and a smaller one to the very right
Does your dvd player have a zoom function? cus if so you should use it

Lord of Sword
08-31-2006, 03:09 PM
Mike said about that $30,000 fine though that the promoter and RCHM manager or something like that paid it for them since they apparently enjoyed the show. he also said they were charged $200,000 just to play there, while most venues charge ~$10,000. Something like that anyway, he posted in a thread on his forums explaining it all a few weeks ago.

Happy
08-31-2006, 04:15 PM
My copy of Score was posted today, probably won't arrive here until monday though :(

Can't wait.
Mine was too according to play :D

Let's hope it gets here quicker than my Iron Maiden album, which still isn't here.

Jred250
08-31-2006, 04:47 PM
Whats all this about a sign? lol, I have scrolled back but I struggle to find a post stating what it said!!! I must know! lol

Happy
08-31-2006, 04:49 PM
Genuine Imitation took a sign along with a few of our names on, in hope that it'd get on the DVD.

ghettoeddo
08-31-2006, 05:33 PM
Does your dvd player have a zoom function? cus if so you should use it

i dont have a zoom function...just my laptop :(

someone else let us know if they can decipher it ;)

Adam Jones is GOD
08-31-2006, 06:15 PM
Amazon got my hopes up, offering both the Gigantour DVD and Score for £28 together. But it wont be shipped till Gigantour comes out, so im missing out on saving due to wanting Score NOW ><

Got a similar deal on the DVD and CD combo though, so its all good

burtonbassist_101
08-31-2006, 06:20 PM
i'm really starting to love this dying soul....ever since i first watched live at budokan

Chu
08-31-2006, 11:00 PM
Didn't happen to me :(
Maybe you don't have a strange need to alt. pick EVERYTHING?

I find I alt. pick everything unconsciously these days, I have to actually consciously play to downpick...

I assume it's alt. picking (I know alt. picking gives you fat forearms, unfortunately I don't have them yet though :(), I guess it's related to biceps, cause well, I don't move my arm at all when playing guitar, it's ALL in the wrist (I'm starting to strum with my arm actually).

GenuineImitation
08-31-2006, 11:48 PM
Im finally at college!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I know what poster you are talking about, but I cant tell if it is mine. It was white, but some other people had white posters as well. It was in the general area of where I was, so it is most likely mine.

ghettoeddo
09-01-2006, 02:04 AM
Im finally at college!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I know what poster you are talking about, but I cant tell if it is mine. It was white, but some other people had white posters as well. It was in the general area of where I was, so it is most likely mine.

haha i've been in college for about two weeks now.

crazy **** man. where you going again? i can't be bothered to check facebook...

well props for taking that **** there anyway dude. we still sorta-ish had our few seconds of fame :]
ill show my grandkids..."kids...my name was on that sign there, you see?!"

Lord Abortion
09-01-2006, 03:42 AM
My copy of Score will come on the 6th.

inassociationwithdeanlearner
09-01-2006, 04:09 AM
So i was gonna wait the 4 days till now till the dvd comes out in england...but last night i happened to come across a torrent for all 3 disks of the cd...and i just couldn't help myself:(

The next thing i know i find myself listening to six degrees of inner turbulence with the orchestra...and i must say it is amazing:D

The only problem is that they have put SDOIT as just one file instead of the seperate parts...does it actually come like that on the proper cd?

eug008
09-01-2006, 04:27 AM
Yeh I noticed that too, I think it does judging by the tracklisting

inassociationwithdeanlearner
09-01-2006, 04:36 AM
Which is odd because i thought they would of put it as sections like they did on the original cd

Lionheart1827
09-01-2006, 05:17 AM
Found myself. I knew wearing a white t-shirt would pay off!

http://i6.tinypic.com/27wrd5c.jpg

If you're wondering what part of the concert that was, it was during the intro to Under A Glass Moon.:thumb:

psychedelic_liam
09-01-2006, 05:19 AM
^ woulda been better if we could see ya! lol

Lionheart1827
09-01-2006, 05:29 AM
^ woulda been better if we could see ya! lol

Yeah :(

Unfortunately the camera guys didn't think I was hot enough for a closeup. You'll have to deal with this until I get my close up.

http://myspace-610.vo.llnwd.net/01114/01/68/1114188610_l.jpg :thumb:

Inkstar
09-01-2006, 07:50 AM
Ahhh can't wait to get my copy!!! Just got an email from JB today saying that they're waiting on the supplier to send it to them or something.... CAN'T WAIT!!!!

ghettoeddo
09-01-2006, 09:11 AM
Which is odd because i thought they would of put it as sections like they did on the original cd

nope...that's a big problem w/ score. six degrees is listed as one song, all 40 minutes of it :(

Atica
09-01-2006, 12:38 PM
I need to get that DVD, seems to be great, and finally my cd of Blood of the Snake arrived!!! :)

Last week one friend told me that Dream Theater was going to play in El Salvador, I was so happy because I can go there, it is like 4 hours from my country. But it was just a rummor :upset: The real band to perform is Stratovarius, I think I'm going to see them.

Lord Abortion
09-01-2006, 02:34 PM
Stratovarius are pretty good though.

I want Score!

ThatOneDrummer
09-01-2006, 02:42 PM
i got score two nights ago, its a very good dvd, the documentray is excellent, the audio in the concert is amazing and the video quality is awesome too, its an all around awesome dvd, i really liked it, although i think live at budokans setlist was better

Atica
09-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Yeh, already decided, im going with my friends to see Stratovarius live on October 3.

What is the setlist for score?

ThatOneDrummer
09-01-2006, 03:44 PM
Yeh, already decided, im going with my friends to see Stratovarius live on October 3.

What is the setlist for score?
the root of all evil
i walk beside you
another won
afterlife
under a glass moon
innocence faded
raise the knife
the spirit carries on
six degrees of inner turbulence
vacant
the answer lies within
sacrificed sons
octavarium
metropolis

i was a bit disappointed...i was hoping for more scenes and more train of thought but its really good either way
i think it woulda been awesome if they played 6:00 or erotomania