Dream Theater

[BradyEB]

I just got Live At Budokan...found out i ordered the cd version aghhh but i bet i wont be disapointed. Im about to chuck it on I'm excited!

[lecky]

word on the street is dream theatre closed a show by playin the entire album master of puppets. is true ?

[The JoZ]

They have covered MOP, the album...

I don't know if they closed a show that way though.

[Quebec]

word on the street is dream theatre closed a show by playin the entire album master of puppets. is true ?

http://lits.shine1.com/dtnettourography.asp?show=619

[back to the front]

word on the street is dream theatre closed a show by playin the entire album master of puppets. is true ?
That would be interesting to see. DT and Metallica are pretty diferent bands.

[Chu]

Well, Dream Theater say on their site, I believe, that Metallica was one of their major influences.
If not the band as a whole, I'm sure Portnoy and Petrucci both say it.

[back to the front]

Well, Dream Theater say on their site, I believe, that Metallica was one of their major influences.
If not the band as a whole, I'm sure Portnoy and Petrucci both say it.
Fare enough. Strange as it might seem, i would like to see it. I'm sure the could do a sweet take on Orion.

[Quebec]

OK...really newbie Dream Theater question coming right up, but I've got A Change Of Seasons, The Glass Prison, a live version of Beyond This Life, Voices, Caught In A Web and Erotomania on my computer, and I like all of them, and absolutely love the first two. Basically, which album would you guys recommend for me to buy, as I've been listening to them more and more recently. If this question's asked loads in here, then apologies.
Awake would a good place to start, or 6 degrees of inner turbulence (its cost more $ since its 2cd). BTW, you started with great songs :thumb:

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New date for the world tour:
June 13th - Posthof - Linz, Austria
"An Evening With Dream Theater"

[Chu]

Fare enough. Strange as it might seem, i would like to see it. I'm sure the could do a sweet take on Orion.
Oh man, you are correct.
I have an mp3 of them covering the whole album, and two videos, master of Puppets and Sanitarium, can't find a video for Orion, yet. But I am looking!

[-TheGlassPrison-]

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[The JoZ]

OK...really newbie Dream Theater question coming right up, but I've got A Change Of Seasons, The Glass Prison, a live version of Beyond This Life, Voices, Caught In A Web and Erotomania on my computer, and I like all of them, and absolutely love the first two. Basically, which album would you guys recommend for me to buy, as I've been listening to them more and more recently. If this question's asked loads in here, then apologies.

Caught in a Web, Voices, and Erotomania are all on "Awake", plus the stellar songs The Mirror/Lie, Scarred, etc.

Get "Awake" then "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence", and if you like those two, "Train of Thought" after that.

:thumb:

[MAthiAS]

Caught in a Web, Voices, and Erotomania are all on "Awake", plus the stellar songs The Mirror/Lie, Scarred, etc.

Get "Awake" then "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence", and if you like those two, "Train of Thought" after that.

:thumb:
Agreed, good advice.

[3FingeredHoek]

Whats this I hear about a new DT album? When is it coming out?

[The JoZ]

They just finished recording it...

I thought I read about a release in May...

[ytsedrummer]

May or June. Anybody know a title yet?

[FlyingPaul_83]

word on the street is dream theatre closed a show by playin the entire album master of puppets. is true ?


Yeah its pretty cool. I have a video of them playing master of puppets

[red barchetta]

this june's gonna be the best:

http://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#octavarium

can't wait... my birthday's on june too :)

[the2stranger]

oooh, I'nm so exited!!!

although the tracklist sames rather, un-DT like,
as long as the music is awesome, can't wait

[red barchetta]

Thanks very much man. :) I appreciate the recommendations. I wonder if they'll be playing festivals in the UK this summer, as European festivals are mentioned on their website, which they'll be playing this summer.
hopefully they'll play some headline shows later on in the year - it is a world tour. so let's just hope they don't ignore us :)

[IvortheEngineDriver]

this june's gonna be the best:

http://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#octavarium

can't wait... my birthday's on june too :)
Awesome! 2 days before my birthday! :thumb:


Anyone else gonna try to see them for their North American Tour? Man...I am going to see them, no matter how far I have to drive! :)

[trev91388]

I'll go see them for the North American Tour. If they come to St. Louis, I'll be there.

Edit: Definitely can't wait for the new album either. I looked and didn't see anything of the type, so I have to ask: Does anyone know yet what this album will sound like?

[HNLzero]

Awesome! 2 days before my birthday! :thumb:


Anyone else gonna try to see them for their North American Tour? Man...I am going to see them, no matter how far I have to drive! :)
I missed out on Metallica when I liked them more, I cannot miss this though.

[robbue]

I totally didnt gell with TOT. i thought the production of it was horrible...TOO LOUD ALL THE TIME. No dynamics. I think TOT was their attempt to get more of the traditional metal head into the audience. It worked too...when I went to see them on the TOT tour it was like OK all the really young 3 chord playing headbangers are here and it made for an annoying night. All the previous shows I went to the audience was full of musicians who stood and watched them play. I dont need to be pushed around by moshers or hit in the face with someones hair. I wont go see them if their next album is like TOT.

[Cain]

I totally didnt gell with TOT. i thought the production of it was horrible...TOO LOUD ALL THE TIME. No dynamics. I think TOT was their attempt to get more of the traditional metal head into the audience. It worked too...when I went to see them on the TOT tour it was like OK all the really young 3 chord playing headbangers are here and it made for an annoying night. All the previous shows I went to the audience was full of musicians who stood and watched them play. I dont need to be pushed around by moshers or hit in the face with someones hair. I wont go see them if their next album is like TOT.

I agree with you about ToT, but part of the fun of going to a concert is to get into the music. The album was substandard but it had its good headbanging moments, and if you're near a "mosh pit" just move away. And don't diss the headbangers by assuming they can only play three chords. Good thing they're listening to bands as good as Dream Theater, so that they can learn to play something else, right? Come on, guy. Don't be such a purist. Dream Theater aren't exactly selling out on us (not like they could since LaBrie is still the singer).

[MNbassist78]

this june's gonna be the best:

http://dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#octavarium

can't wait... my birthday's on june too :)


This is awesome, June 7th isnt that far away, what a great name :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

Awesome! And a tour over the summer!

[chorbalan]

I was going to buy a DT DVD today, but I can't decide which one....and also Is it worth buying...I caught their show In bulgaria a few years back ( by accident, I was visiting grandparents while they came) and I loved it. Some people tell me the DVDs are kinda bland and that they don't put on much of a show some say the opposite.

So which DVD do you suggest and is it even worth getting?

[MAthiAS]

Okay, this tour over the summer that's supposed to be a package, I've heard its very likely Megadeth will be on it. Sweet.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I was going to buy a DT DVD today, but I can't decide which one....and also Is it worth buying...I caught their show In bulgaria a few years back ( by accident, I was visiting grandparents while they came) and I loved it. Some people tell me the DVDs are kinda bland and that they don't put on much of a show some say the opposite.

So which DVD do you suggest and is it even worth getting?
I like them all. If you like a more documentary feel to your DVD, go with the Images and Words/5 Years to a lifetime. If you want great live shows, go with the Scenes from NY or Live at Budokan. I prefer Budokan because I liked the songs off of ToT they had on there, but Scenes was just as good. Its a win/win, IMO. Pick one up and you'll be happy regardless.

[Prince of Darkness]

I dont like the newer DT Material, like TOT, The Last good cd by DT was 6DOIT but that was only OK, SFAM was a bit gay.Concept Albums and DT go together like bread and paper, not at all. My all time fav is IAW, I havn't heard the first one WDADU, is it any good?

[the2stranger]

^^ WDADU is certainly worth buying, it was so ahead of it's time when released, it's a great album




I agree with you about ToT, but part of the fun of going to a concert is to get into the music. The album was substandard but it had its good headbanging moments, and if you're near a "mosh pit" just move away. And don't diss the headbangers by assuming they can only play three chords. Good thing they're listening to bands as good as Dream Theater, so that they can learn to play something else, right? Come on, guy. Don't be such a purist. Dream Theater aren't exactly selling out on us (not like they could since LaBrie is still the singer).


do you mean DT isn't selling out Bacause LaBrie has an unusual voice?
it's not just LaBrie, it's the entire band.
they just changed their sound to a bit more metal-ish.
as long as they play long songs, with incredible riffing, solo's and awesome drumming, bass playing, and awesome keyboard parts, they're not selling out.

it's more, that I'm glad they're 'progressing' , something a lot of Prog bands do not, if they would stick with the same sound, ever since WDADU, it wouldn't be the same.

[Prince of Darkness]

Dream Theater has the most talented musicians in there, and they are very lucky, and I consider them a supergroup. They have the best Guitarist, the best Bassist the best drummer and an unbelievable keyboardest. But this leaves on guy out. LaBrie.I actually like LaBrie, but when I introduce DT to my friends, they're all put off by LaBrie.
He is a weak link in DT, but what would DT be without Him?

Petrucci is unbelievable, but his songwrighting pisses me off lataly.The new stuff tried to be too different to the previous stuff. I admire their progressive abbilities, but they took it too far. This can be a problem for DT, 'cause I know people that lost a lot of intrest in DT after TOT. Im with them.The New album is gonna the same as TOT. Heavier. But thats not what DT was about in the beginning. They were about great riffs, Keyboarding, Melody changes and Vocalistic Genius. Not any more.

[the2stranger]

I don't consider LaBrie the weakest link.
but his voice is an aquirred taste.
he's a trained Opera singer. so his skill is extreme.
I alwys have a very hard time, when it comes to, 'who's the weakest link in DT'
they're all so amazing at what they do.

arguably it is LaBrie, beacause he doesn't deliver much lyrics, and doesn't work on the music.
but, meh this isn't going anywhere, I love them too much :p

[Prince of Darkness]

hmm.OK. but I leave you with this. DT in 1992-1999 or 2000-2005?


I think my choice is clear

[the2stranger]

Images and words is my favorite, so my choice is clear as well.

but train of thought is my 2nd favorite
but I'm just a weird guy.

but they were more pioneers in the old days, now most things have already been done in some form or another, so it gets old fast

[Prince of Darkness]

yes, we need need a new band thats ahead of time....To make new ideas for us all to learn from

[The Depressed]

The New album is gonna the same as TOT. Heavier. But thats not what DT was about in the beginning. They were about great riffs, Keyboarding, Melody changes and Vocalistic Genius. Not any more.

No, the new album ISN'T like TOT. MP, JLB and JR have stated this many times.

And both SDOIT AND TOT have those great riffs, keyboarding, melody changes AND incredible vocals. Ever heard Endless Sacrifice? The Test That Stumped Them All?

I'm really looking forward to the new album. It'll be interesting to see where they can go after three incredibly experimental albums. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, as long as it still sounds like DT.

[coolidgeALL]

I have never heard this band, where I live people listen to sh!tty music, If I like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica, etc. Would I like them?

[MAthiAS]

I have never heard this band, where I live people listen to sh!tty music, If I like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica, etc. Would I like them?
Maybe, but not based on those bands. They're really nothing like them, influenced by them, but the music is really different.

[jamesclelland]

they play progressive (metal?), anyway they do the power chord deal, they have odd time sigs, wierd song structure, and amazing solos. you really just have to listen to them to get the idea.

[MAthiAS]

Might like Train of Thought or Awake.

[coolidgeALL]

I actually went to a record store today and heard em'. some songs I liked alot and some weren't really my type. I was listening to a couple songs with really crazy melodic guitar solos, kickes a.ss thats what I like, so what album should I buy?

[pigonthewing82]

You know somthing I realized today was over the summer I say Yes on their recent tour, and there was this amazing opening act, and I just realized it was Dream Theather. I think I might want to get into them, whats a good cd to start on.

[MAthiAS]

I actually went to a record store today and heard em'. some songs I liked alot and some weren't really my type. I was listening to a couple songs with really crazy melodic guitar solos, kickes a.ss thats what I like, so what album should I buy?
They all have crazy solos, but I'd suggest Train of Thought first for you.

To the guy above me, start with Awake, its got some heavy stuff and some light stuff, so you can see what you like of theirs and go from there. :thumb:

[3rdplanet]

You know somthing I realized today was over the summer I say Yes on their recent tour, and there was this amazing opening act, and I just realized it was Dream Theather. I think I might want to get into them, whats a good cd to start on.

Images & Words will probably be the most replies you get considering you saw them supporting Yes.

Then again I don't know what you saw them play, and I think Train of Thought was out then so I guess you were subjected to a wide range of their music.

Try Images & Words though first, great album.

'Take! the! Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime!'

EDIT: or Awake, tis true, it's a good mix.

[pigonthewing82]

Images & Words will probably be the most replies you get considering you saw them supporting Yes.

Then again I don't know what you saw them play, and I think Train of Thought was out then so I guess you were subjected to a wide range of their music.

Try Images & Words though first, great album.

'Take! the! Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime!'

EDIT: or Awake, tis true, it's a good mix.

Thanks :thumb:

[coolidgeALL]

Thanks for the recomendations! I will definetly check into that

[Quebec]

Hey guys, just a quick question about the next cd.

which song do you think is the 3rd song of the "the glass prison/this dying soul" story? I think it's "The Answer Lies Within "

[Monstar1790]

Dream Theater...good stuff. Can't wait for Octavarium, hope it doesn't disappoint like Train of Thought (not a bad album, but not up to standards). Also, am I the only one here who doesn't like Awake? Just wondering.

[MAthiAS]

Also, am I the only one here who doesn't like Awake?
Yes.

[The JoZ]

Hey guys, just a quick question about the next cd.

which song do you think is the 3rd song of the "the glass prison/this dying soul" story? I think it's "The Answer Lies Within "

My guess would be "These Walls" but I don't know.

I know I will be buying tihs the day it omes out, however :D

[DKMode]

i just started listening to dream theater, and i love what i am hearing. im a drummer and ive always admired mike portnoy. hes like a heavier version of neil peart which is awesome. i also play bass and i think john myung is amazing too. anyways, i dont know much about them, but i want to buy a cd, and i dont know which one to buy. i dont want to just guess and end up getting a ****ty cd (just like someone getting into metallica and getting load instead of master of puppets). i want to buy there best cd, so any one who could tell me what that is would be awesome. i like heavier music, but not like death metal. iron maiden and tallica are basically as heavy as i go. but if there is any cds they have made that sound like those 2 bands, it would be great if you told me so i could purchase it.

[crazyjonny]

i dunno if this is just me but i could never tell you what my favourite DT cd is my opinion is always changing because i get bored of a certian one and really get into another i hadnt heard in awhile.......but Id say Awake.....probly cause thats the album ive been listening to of late, but yea its a doozie :D

[MAthiAS]

Sounds like you'd like Awake or Scenes From a Memory

[Lord Abortion]

I hope there's a tour to support it ...

liking train of thought better now
endless sacrifice is good but this dying soul sounds like metallica...

awake and metropolis part two should be coming through the post in the next couple of days

[Josh]

on train of thought, on as i am, theres a point just after the chorus when he sings "as i am" and sounds very like james hetfield

[Animus Light]

Best DT song: Scarred.

[newWorld]

Dream Theater...good stuff. Can't wait for Octavarium, hope it doesn't disappoint like Train of Thought (not a bad album, but not up to standards). Also, am I the only one here who doesn't like Awake? Just wondering.

Ya, I don't like it that much. I'm a fan of a Mind beside itself, Space-Dye Vest, and The Mirror, but that's it. The first couple of songs are alright. It is definitely not that great. I think Images, Scenes, and six degrees are the best.

[the2stranger]

it's a nice album, but not my favorite, that goes to I&W
such a classic

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Yo, I just read in another thread that James severly damaged his vocal chords after Awake, is this true?

[The Depressed]

Yo, I just read in another thread that James severly damaged his vocal chords after Awake, is this true?

Just before the Awake tour, he ruptured his vocal chords after a bout of food poisoning.

He's only really just recovered, I think. His voice is so much better live now than a few years ago.

[Josh]

it's a nice album, but not my favorite, that goes to I&W
such a classic
out of the 2 DT albums i have,

I&W > Train of thought

[the2stranger]

true, but TOT is my second favorite :P
but nothing tops I&W

[G_Mac07]

I fail to see why people seem to "dislike" Train of Thought. I find it to be amazing, although I might be biased because it was my first DT album.

[MAthiAS]

on train of thought, on as i am, theres a point just after the chorus when he sings "as i am" and sounds very like james hetfield
Doesn't sound anything like him on theiri MoP cover...

ToT was also my first DT album... and Images and Words craps all over it.

[back to the front]

^ I stick with liking both of them. It really depends which one i'm listening to.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I like images and words more than train of thought which i also like a lot

[Deth]

FlyingPaul, we meet again. Our music tastes seem to run similar.

[FlyingPaul_83]

FlyingPaul, we meet again. Our music tastes seem to run similar.


Yeah :thumb:

[Deth]

Do you like Opeth? If so, we are pretty much exactly the same in music tastes.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Never heard of em. R they death metal?

[Cain]

Never heard of em. R they death metal?

And so much more. You'll ****ing love them. They are true geniuses. They're one of my favorite bands, and unlike Dream Theater, they sound effortlessly brilliant and progressive, whereas Dream Theater of late have sounded a bit like musical athletes with too much muscle enhancement.

[Deth]

kind of. Get over to the Opeth thread and we shall talk.

[FlyingPaul_83]

ok see you there

[Lord Abortion]

images and words is one of the best albums ever surely?
what other album from DT sounds most like it?
metropolis pt.2 and awake will be in post today!!!

[the2stranger]

ther isn't anything like I&W,
it's just thier best work, cause it has the best sound :p
the others sound great too, but they don't have that I&W sound.

they change their sound with each album.

enjoy listening to awake and mtr pt. 2
they're both great albums.

np: DT - another day :thumb:

[Lord Abortion]

yeah they will be...

[the2stranger]

has anyuone heard the new Petrucci solo album?
I've heard one song so far
tunnelvsion, but it's great.
better than a lot of LTE work IMO

[The JoZ]

I still don't think that I&W is that good...

If I&W was produced, like, now...I might like it a little more. The overal production of it is part of why I don't like it as much. But just in general, they don't have anything that is that heavy on that album, therefore, I don't like it as much.

That being said, I'd like to see their next album be closer to Awake or Train of Thought than anything else. We'll see what happens, I suppose.

[Ronnie James Dio]

Dreamtheater Rules!!!

[Cain]

I still don't think that I&W is that good...

If I&W was produced, like, now...I might like it a little more. The overal production of it is part of why I don't like it as much. But just in general, they don't have anything that is that heavy on that album, therefore, I don't like it as much.

That being said, I'd like to see their next album be closer to Awake or Train of Thought than anything else. We'll see what happens, I suppose.

I didn't like Awake so much. LaBrie's vocals on that album annoy me. I would love something more along the lines of 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence's non-concept tracks.

[The JoZ]

I didn't like Awake so much. LaBrie's vocals on that album annoy me. I would love something more along the lines of 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence's non-concept tracks.

LaBrie's vocals on I&W annoy me :p

I like Awake, because he seemed to show more range...going from pretty high (Scarred, 6:00) to pretty low (The Mirror, Lie)

I&W is all Geddy Lee range stuff, for the most part, and I don't enjoy that from him.

[kev_trb1006]

i think LaBrie is an awesome singer.....he doesn't write much of the lyrics yet he puts so much soul into it. His voice sounds good and he has a fantastic range with highs that soar

[shamed-angel]

LaBrie's vocals on I&W annoy me

I like Awake, because he seemed to show more range...going from pretty high (Scarred, 6:00) to pretty low (The Mirror, Lie)

I&W is all Geddy Lee range stuff, for the most part, and I don't enjoy that from him


I think his vocals on Images and Words and Awake are some of his best. His singing on more recent albums has taken a more modern, contempory style, with LaBrie rapping and even doing some aggressive singing( He screams under one of the parts in In the Name of God.). I think his singing is one of the best thing about Dream Theater's earlier work, but sometimes I do feel really sorry for him in his part time job. Hehe

[3rdplanet]

I think his vocals on Images and Words and Awake are some of his best. His singing on more recent albums has taken a more modern, contempory style, with LaBrie rapping and even doing some aggressive singing( He screams under one of the parts in In the Name of God.). I think his singing is one of the best thing about Dream Theater's earlier work, but sometimes I do feel really sorry for him in his part time job. Hehe

haha. I feel more sorry for John Myung, he speaks for about 15 seconds in the Documentary on the Live in Budokan DVD.

Do they pick on him?!

[shamed-angel]

I expect they bully him really bad. On the commentary on the live in Japan dvd he speaks for like 4 or 5 minutes. :amaze: I reckon his share of royalties go to Mike Portnoy and he has to work as a baker. Otherwise they'll flush him

[3rdplanet]

I expect they bully him really bad. On the commentary on the live in Japan dvd he speaks for like 4 or 5 minutes. :amaze: I reckon his share of royalties go to Mike Portnoy and he has to work as a baker. Otherwise they'll flush him

I haven't listened to the commentary, I think I will just to hear him talk.

I could actually see the whole royalties and baker thing going on.

LOL!...A Baker...rep +...well I would if I could.

[shamed-angel]

He'd probably be amazing. "A powerhouse of a baker" a la Kevin Shirley.

[The JoZ]

I think his vocals on Images and Words and Awake are some of his best. His singing on more recent albums has taken a more modern, contempory style, with LaBrie rapping and even doing some aggressive singing( He screams under one of the parts in In the Name of God.). I think his singing is one of the best thing about Dream Theater's earlier work, but sometimes I do feel really sorry for him in his part time job. Hehe

I quite enjoy the modernization of his vocal stylings.

I don't mind all of his higher vocals, I just don't constantly want to hear him sound like Geddy Lee.

[shamed-angel]

I noticed that Charlie Dominici sounds remarkably like Geddy lee on WdaDU. I'm a big fan of their newer stuff but I way prefer LaBrie's vocals on earlier albums, Change of Seasons, Metropolis or All of Scenes from a Memory being his high points vocally in my opinion.

Does anyone else cringe at the really bad "Hold it up now. Wait a minute!" At the beggining of Take the Time?

[ytsedrummer]

Not I.

[Cain]

Does anyone else cringe at the really bad "Hold it up now. Wait a minute!" At the beggining of Take the Time?

Not really. I think that's some of his coolest singing, and definitely the some of the coolest playing from the band. I love that song.

[demon_LLAMA]

I can't wait for DT's new albun (June 7th) Octavarium. Cool tracknames, it wil rock.

[Reidie86]

I still don't think that I&W is that good...

If I&W was produced, like, now...I might like it a little more. The overal production of it is part of why I don't like it as much. But just in general, they don't have anything that is that heavy on that album, therefore, I don't like it as much.

That being said, I'd like to see their next album be closer to Awake or Train of Thought than anything else. We'll see what happens, I suppose.

i really like the production for I&W, the drums sound amazing

[pizzapie88]

Sorry if this has been asked before but does anyone have MP3's of DT's cover of Master of Puppets (album). If not do you guys know where I could download them from?

[SilenceNOmorE]

That "Hold it up now, wait a minute" is sampled isn't it?
I prefer the range JLB desplays on ToT and SDoIT to any other album, but my favourite vocals are on The Spirit Carries On.
Also, I'm not sure that Myung doesn't talk because he's bullied, I just get the impression that he's kinda shy and doesn't like to. If anybody'd be bullied in that band it'd be JLB.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I dunno...Labrie's vocal range impresses me on a lot of their albums.
On IaW...that part in Learning to Live when he just does the "whoas" from low (high to everyone else) to really high
on Awake...the way he sings on The Mirror/Lie
and ToT, with In the Name of God, this one part, he follows the guitars/keyboards perfectly, its really good.

About JLB being bullied, you can tell on the Budokan DVD you are right, when they are doing the Iron Maiden album and they are talking and they are like "Yeah, we got the copy, you need to go listen to it" when James wasn't gettin' it...I thought it was pretty funny.

BTW, I was watching the 5 Years in a Lifetime DVD and "Close my Eyes" is like, an amazing song. Anyone know where I can get it? I haven't actively looked, but is it a cover?

[IvortheEngineDriver]

People have forgot about this thread :)

[shamed-angel]

Guys, what is you favourite Dt Album for guitar sounds? Mine is Either Images and Words or Train of Thought. Two completely different sounds but both amazing.

[3rdplanet]

Screw guitars :p , the drums on the Live in Budokan DVD sound phenomanal.

I can't spell.

[shamed-angel]

They do they do.

[The Depressed]

Guys, what is you favourite Dt Album for guitar sounds? Mine is Either Images and Words or Train of Thought. Two completely different sounds but both amazing.

Live At Budokan. So much chunkiness, but tonnes of clarity. Thinking of This Dying Soul's breakdown here, with the 'TGP' riff. So much better utilised in TDS, even though its a reprise.

[Special Brew]

People have forgot about this thread :)

Never!!! :amaze:

[MAthiAS]

Awake has the best bass stuff IMO, Images and Words has the best keyboards, drums are always sick, and for guitar I'd have to say Images and Words or Awake.

[The JoZ]

In terms of, like, instrument tones, I think Awake, Six Degrees, and ToT have my favorite tones...

Lots of crunch :evil:

[ytsedrummer]

The keyboards kicked major *** on Train Of Thought. James' voice was growley on Awake which was pretty cool.

[Cain]

In terms of, like, instrument tones, I think Awake, Six Degrees, and ToT have my favorite tones...

Lots of crunch :evil:

I am in agreement, although the crunch on ToT made for a pretty toneless album.

/ToT bashing again from the man formerly known as Ripper22...sorry, Joz. :)

[The JoZ]

I am in agreement, although the crunch on ToT made for a pretty toneless album.

/ToT bashing again from the man formerly known as Ripper22...sorry, Joz. :)

What do you mean a 'toneless' album?

[JamieSomething]

as far as what I own..first..and whatnot
first was Images & Words, followed by Budokan, Live Scenes, then Scenes from a Memory, Awake, Train of Thought, then 6 Degree's

favorite to listen to..Scenes, hasta be Scenes

meh, it's good though
favorite songs..

In The Name of God
Home(which, I'm proud that I can play, fun stuff)
Metropolis(5 minutes of that)
aand Stream of Consciousness

[Cain]

What do you mean a 'toneless' album?

I meant there was little organic feel to the guitar sounds: just gobs and gobs and gobs of gain. Not like a lot of the tones of 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which seemed equally heavy but much tighter-sounding.

[Tails]

This has probably already been adressed in here, I just don't want to look through 35 pages of thread, but anybody else really into the Sherinian stuff with DT. He had some decent solos, and provided a lot of landscape for the sound. I just wish DT was able to have written FII the way they wanted to so we could really see what Sherinian was capable of in the band.

[Cain]

This has probably already been adressed in here, I just don't want to look through 35 pages of thread, but anybody else really into the Sherinian stuff with DT. He had some decent solos, and provided a lot of landscape for the sound. I just wish DT was able to have written FII the way they wanted to so we could really see what Sherinian was capable of in the band.

There hasn't been much talk about Sherinian in here, to be honest. I'm curious about what he did to get kicked out. The general consensus is that "he acted too much like a rock star." What the heck does that mean?

[The JoZ]

There hasn't been much talk about Sherinian in here, to be honest. I'm curious about what he did to get kicked out. The general consensus is that "he acted too much like a rock star." What the heck does that mean?

He was fired because the band wanted Jordan Rudess for a long time, and had finally become available.

That doesn't mean he may not have partaken in being a rock star too much, but the primary reason was because they could finally add Jordan to their line up.


I meant there was little organic feel to the guitar sounds: just gobs and gobs and gobs of gain. Not like a lot of the tones of 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which seemed equally heavy but much tighter-sounding.

Meh. I mean, I really didn't notice that, I guess...

[horseypie]

im glad.....jordan is mad...even tho i only have Scenes and ToT.........Scenes is my fave album of all time...its so good

[Otherside]

I wish they would hurry up and post US tour dates.

[Up The Irons]

There hasn't been much talk about Sherinian in here, to be honest. I'm curious about what he did to get kicked out. The general consensus is that "he acted too much like a rock star." What the heck does that mean?

actually they wanted jordan when kevin moore left but he couldnt for some reason so derek was there until jordan decided to join and they kicked derek out. i think i heard that on the "5 years in a lifetime" dvd commentary

i didnt care much for derek anyway

[JamieSomething]

Sherinian was fairly decent..iunno, Moore grew on me since my first album was Images, I thought he was pretty good
then I went from that straight to Jordan, Jordan's got his chops down
well..his part in Caught in a New Millenium intro...that was pretty sweet
meh, he's good too..I'll say that..
forgot to mention having Falling Into Infinity..I like that one too..'m sorry..Peruvian Skies has so much of an Enter Sandman kinda feel in some of the riffing..I just hafta laugh, nontheless..a good listen

[Otherside]

If anyone's interested in the DT cover of Master of Puppets, here's the WinRAR file with all the songs. Enjoy.

http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1VJPC8HVIMUWN3T5YSEOYY5X83

[Schyma]

I was at school yesterday and my metal head freind said "John Petrucci is the greatest guitarists ever!" and I asked why and he replied that he was "technicly perfect" and that lead my couriosity here to ask you guys what should I start with? What is a song that showcases Petrucci's guitarist skills and is less metal? I have heard some Dream Theater before but it sounded loud and distorted but they said "that was their metal album". So I just wanted to ask about it here. :)

[Bertovo]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#octavarium

For Immediate Release:

Dream Theater have completed work on their 8th full length studio album entitled "OCTAVARIUM" which is tentatively set for release through Atlantic Records on June 7th, 2005.

The track listing is as follows:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls
I Walk Beside You
Panic Attack
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium
Dream Theater's 2005/2006 World Tour will kick off on June 10th in Sweden with a leg of European Festivals and select headlining shows which will then be followed by a North American leg throughout July/August as part of a "package" tour with several other bands TBA very soon.....

[the2stranger]

I was at school yesterday and my metal head freind said "John Petrucci is the greatest guitarists ever!" and I asked why and he replied that he was "technicly perfect" and that lead my couriosity here to ask you guys what should I start with? What is a song that showcases Petrucci's guitarist skills and is less metal? I have heard some Dream Theater before but it sounded loud and distorted but they said "that was their metal album". So I just wanted to ask about it here. :)

check out 6 degrees of inner turbulence (2cd), songs like the glass prison and blind faith, have awesome soloing, I don't like the 2nd cd too much tho :confused:

[Schyma]

Any song in particular?

Edit: nevermind I see.

[Cain]

I saw the video for DT's "Pull Me Under" today on VH1 classic. :eek: LaBrie had a Napalm Death shirt on. :lol: The band looked so badass and underground in that video, though, they should have kept the look instead of becoming prep-student's metal-band look. (John looks bad with his hair all short like that, and so do Mike and Jordan).

[Otherside]

http://s12.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1VJPC8HVIMUWN3T5YSEOYY5X83

There's the complete Master of Puppets cover they did, if you want to see that.

[shamed-angel]

The video for Take the Time is hilarious. John Petrucci pulling all these rock star poses and James just looks so dam camp. Mike portnoy is wearing nothing but a pair of pants and theyve got the colliseum backdrop like on the back of Images and Words. So goddam corny.

[Cain]

LaBrie can't avoid looking camp. But I would love to see Petrucci score more rock star poses.

Like one time, I saw a Whitesnake video from when Steve Vai was in the band, and he did this unbelievable trick where he flipped the guitar onto his knee flat, and put both hands on the neck like you would play a piano and did this unbelievable trick descending tapping lick. Petrucci just stands there concentrating. I would love to see him go nuts more.

[static]

The video for Take the Time is hilarious. John Petrucci pulling all these rock star poses and James just looks so dam camp. Mike portnoy is wearing nothing but a pair of pants and theyve got the colliseum backdrop like on the back of Images and Words. So goddam corny.


what a great video :thumb:

[BradyEB]

[QUOTE=Cain] LaBrie had a Napalm Death shirt on. :lol: [QUOTE]

Really? weird. I was pretty shocked when i saw one of the napalm Death guys wearing a Dream Theater T-shirt in a picture in Choosing Death: The Improbable History of Death Metal and Grindcore.

[Cain]

Really? weird. I was pretty shocked when i saw one of the napalm Death guys wearing a Dream Theater T-shirt in a picture in Choosing Death: The Improbable History of Death Metal and Grindcore.

Interesting. Hmmm. That's cool, though.

[JamieSomething]

I saw the video for DT's "Pull Me Under" today on VH1 classic. :eek: LaBrie had a Napalm Death shirt on. :lol: The band looked so badass and underground in that video, though, they should have kept the look instead of becoming prep-student's metal-band look. (John looks bad with his hair all short like that, and so do Mike and Jordan).


well, Dream Theater has played with Napalm Death
well..they had the singer of ND sing Damage, Inc.
have an mp3 of it..and, think Portnoy's talking at the end..eitherway, he mentions Labrie, so meh

[Bertovo]

I would think the new album having a set date, and track list annouced is a bit bigger news than seeing James Labrie in a Napalm Death shirt.

Whatever.

[Cain]

I would think the new album having a set date, and track list annouced is a bit bigger news than seeing James Labrie in a Napalm Death shirt.

Whatever.

Take it easy. We can talk about anything you want. :rolleyes:

[shamed-angel]

well, Dream Theater has played with Napalm Death
well..they had the singer of ND sing Damage, Inc.
have an mp3 of it..and, think Portnoy's talking at the end..eitherway, he mentions Labrie, so meh
It's on the 5yearsinalivetime DVD. John Petrucci doesnt stop laughing for a good minute or so.

[MAthiAS]

Petrucci should grow his hair again, he looks like a soccer dad.

[pizzapie88]

There's the complete Master of Puppets cover they did, if you want to see that.

Thank you very much :) :thumb:

[JamieSomething]

It's on the 5yearsinalivetime DVD. John Petrucci doesnt stop laughing for a good minute or so.

the one I have is different, probably on the same tour

[MAthiAS]

Is it just me or does that MoP stop after Leper Messiah?

[RiceMonster]

Petrucci should grow his hair again, he looks like a soccer dad.
Agreed. As a matter of fact, 95% of rock and metal musicians should have long hair. Long hair > short hair.

[BradyEB]

Ohh god I think everyone in DT looks better with long hair.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah... with long hair I could excuse JP for just standing there, because he did headbang a little bit. Now with short hair... Sorry John, Alexi's right.

Long hair > short hair.
teh psyned

[the2stranger]

they looked so awesome, especially Portnoy, he had hair that was about 1 meter in diameter

[red barchetta]

Ohh god I think everyone in DT looks better with long hair.
especially jordan... he needs his hair

[3rdplanet]

Rudess has the worst long hair I have ever seen on a person.

It was funny though.

[the2stranger]

I was like :eek: do they have a new keyboardist again?
and after a few secs, oh no, Jordan is bald ;)
I like the long hair better tho

[static]

I have a quick question:
I own 6DOIT, SFAM, and Awake, and I wanted to know what i should get next. I thought id get better results here

also, i believe it is 6>S>A

thank you

[shamed-angel]

Get Images and Words or Live at Budokan. You wouldnt regret either.

[static]

Get Images and Words or Live at Budokan. You wouldnt regret either.


ok thanks man :thumb:

[shamed-angel]

NO Problem. 900th Reply :D. Are you planning to buy their entire back catalogue or just what gets reccomended?

[MAthiAS]

ok thanks man :thumb:
I think you'd like Train of Thought more, considering your favorite is 6DoiT

[Cain]

Don't be so sure. 6 Degrees remains my favorite album, and I hated ToT. It had next to none of the harmonic sophistication and layering of that album. Meh, it could go either way.

[The JoZ]

ToT was more straightforward than any of their other albums...some people hated it, and some, like me, love it...

That being said, I'd really prefer to see the new album combine ToT + Six Degrees or ToT + Awake....

[Otherside]

I'd love a mix of ToT and Awake. I don't know if DT could sucessfully pull that off though.
It'll be interesting to see what direction they take it with this album.

[MAthiAS]

Indeed, didn't they say it would be different from ToT? I'd like to see Petrucci lose some of his longer, less melodic wanking style solos.

[Cain]

ToT was more straightforward than any of their other albums...some people hated it, and some, like me, love it...

That being said, I'd really prefer to see the new album combine ToT + Six Degrees or ToT + Awake....

Yes, I agree, a combo of ToT's heaviness with 6 Degrees' harmonic sophistication and arrangements would be utterly killer. Rudess should take a tack from Nightwish with his keyboard work: that band always has amazing metal riffs and great keyboard lines. I love the sound of an orchestra backing up a metal band.

[Cain]

Indeed, didn't they say it would be different from ToT? I'd like to see Petrucci lose some of his longer, less melodic wanking style solos.

Good God, I hope he loses those. His soloing tone on ToT stunk too: you really need delay or reverb for those kinds of things, so that the picking noise and the gain isn't so harsh-sounding. One thing I would also hope to see less of are keyboard/guitar unison "races:" the ones on ToT seemed rarely supported by any sort of audible bassline or chord changes, and so it sounded very strange and silly in parts.

[MAthiAS]

Good God, I hope he loses those. His tone sucks too.
His tone's okay, but he wanks it on almost every song of ToT. Especially Stream of Consciousness, I love that song, but his solo is pretty boring to me. Lets see some Pull Me Under/Another Day style solos... you know, with phrasing.

[Cain]

His tone's okay, but he wanks it on almost every song of ToT. Especially Stream of Consciousness, I love that song, but his solo is pretty boring to me. Lets see some Pull Me Under/Another Day style solos... you know, with phrasing.

Precisely. Although as I said in my edit, I would like to see reverb on the solos. They sound less harsh and more wailing that way. For instance, I think the "Blind Faith" solo was great with the delay on it. Also, as I said in the edit, less keyboard/guitar unison races, unless they're going to have some actual musical theme to them. I don't get impressed by those very much anymore. Listening to bands like Nightwish just reinforce my belief in orchestration, rather than a billion instruments all locking in step together and doing the exact same thing. 6 Degrees had a lot of layers, for instance.

[MAthiAS]

Exactly. Layering always sounds awesome and makes the music more interesting and sophisticated. And Blind Faith is one of my favorite JP solos. Technical, yet awesome phrasing and melody.

[TojesDolan]

Excuse the change of themes, but I was watching a video a friend of mine DL some time ago, and it's John petrucci talking to the crowd about exercises and stuff, and there's this part where he plays a Chopin song (for piano) in his guitar. I was wondering if you knew the name of the song, and if there's a tab available for that song.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

ToT was more straightforward than any of their other albums...some people hated it, and some, like me, love it...

That being said, I'd really prefer to see the new album combine ToT + Six Degrees or ToT + Awake....
I agree with you...I love ToT, it was my first DT album and still listen to it (actually taking a break from it right now, kinda od'ed), I've been listening to IaW and Awake a lot lately and really have fallen in love with both of them. I really hope, when they come to the MidWest in July/August, they play some of those tunes. I know they have to re-learn some of the songs, but I would love to hear Learning to Live, The Mirror/Lie, Surrounded (I know...its gay, but I love it!) and I'm praying they play The Glass Prison...if they did, I can die happy :)

[IvortheEngineDriver]

By the way, if you watch the IaW DVD, you can see them really get into it. I think they have good stage presence then. Myung doesn't pace like he used to and doesn't head bang as much. But JP does get into it on the Budokan DVD (See the Glass Prison riff on This Dying Soul...which is my favorite part of the song). I'm just glad he got rid of that UGLY looking Piccasso guitar he used, I thought that looked real cheesy. But, man, JLB looked really...gay in the "Another Day" video...cracks me up, I still like him though

BTW, I like the band with different hair. BTW, doesn't JP look really buff in the Budokan DVD (yeah, he must work out...Dumb and Dumber reference)

[pizzapie88]

Im listening to DT's cover of Battery for the first time. Im blown away, this its just amazing. I thought James locals would let it down but not at all.

[Triangle]

Im listening to DT's cover of Battery for the first time. Im blown away, this its just amazing. I thought James locals would let it down but not at all.
Heh, yeah. The mop bootleg is pretty good actually to what I thought it was going to be.

I really like their rendition of Orion. That was pretty cool.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

/bump

[Lord Abortion]

I'd love a mix of ToT and Awake. I don't know if DT could sucessfully pull that off though.
It'll be interesting to see what direction they take it with this album.
I would like to see another images and words style of album
certainly less heavy than ToT

[badtaste]

I would like to see another images and words style of album
certainly less heavy than ToT

Same. An 'Images & Words II" would be nice. Old school prog.

BTW, DT still kicks ***.

[jpshortstuff]

I would like to see another images and words style of album
certainly less heavy than ToT

i dont no
I+W is a great album showin all their technical abilitiy, but i really love ToT
for its general amazingness
another great song like Glass Prison/This Dying Soul is all i want

[Thor]

Can someone tell me a Dream Theater song with a better guitar solo than "As I Am". I havent listened to all of this band, but that is the best solo that I have found so far. Thanks if you help me out.

[Otherside]

More technical? Stream of Conciousness. Better solo in terms of creativity? Alot of songs.

[the2stranger]

stream of conciousness
the glass prison
blind faith
those are some great solo's

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I know its not as awesome as the beforementioned, but man, the guitar solo w/ Ruddess on In the Name of God amazes me

[the2stranger]

^ at what time in the song is that?

[Otherside]

BTW, Mathias, do you really have a video of DT playing Glass Prison?

[bassaholica2004]

I finally got 6DotIT, and I love it. I've heard the Glass Prison before I got it, and its always been one of my favorite DT songs. The rest of the first album is absolutely amazing though. Misunderstood is probably my favorite slower song by them now, maybe my favorite slower song ever. I love the "From a God to a God save me" line. I haven't listened to the whole 2nd CD yet, but I will later.

By the way, does anyone know anywhere I can get info on the new album?

[Triangle]

The second CD is best music I've ever heard from the band. It's full of emotion. Just listen to it, over and over again, a lot!

[MAthiAS]

BTW, Mathias, do you really have a video of DT playing Glass Prison?
Yes, found it on Limewire. Its at BB King's in NYC. And he really does slightly fudge the first two arpeggios. Not really a mess up, just not 100% clean.

The second CD is best music I've ever heard from the band. It's full of emotion. Just listen to it, over and over again, a lot!
Are you referring to Images and Words or Awake?

[Otherside]

Is there any remote chance of you uploading it?

[Schyma]

Well my friend let me barrow Live at Bodiken (DVD)....What is the best song on it?

Keep in mind I dont really enjoy "heavy" music.

[Otherside]

You'll probably like Stream of Conciousness and Hollow Years.

[red barchetta]

Well my friend let me barrow Live at Bodiken (DVD)....What is the best song on it?

Keep in mind I dont really enjoy "heavy" music.
hollow years, definately

[the2stranger]

does Budokan have the extended jam version of hollow years?
cause I have a live cd of the train of thought tour, with a cover that looks a lot like the TOT cover, but with pink flowers and all.
and they do a great extended version of hollow years,
hollow years is such a great song, Brings back great memories about me and my ex GF

[Hive]

anyone know where I can find a large DT logo?

[the2stranger]

have you tried google? or their own site?

[RiceMonster]

Yes, found it on Limewire. Its at BB King's in NYC. And he really does slightly fudge the first two arpeggios. Not really a mess up, just not 100% clean.
I had a video of The Glass Prison as well. It wasn't bad, I deleted it though.

[Firecracker]

Right, i want to make a Dream Theater compilation for my bf and myself, and i wondered which songs i should put on it, i am finding trouble because all of them are so good, and i can't put them ALL on, but it would be nice, but not possible somehow.

Please give me your views on likely songs.

Cheers then.


(Someone else didn't want to help me in my own thread).

[Fenrisulfr]

Right, i want to make a Dream Theater compilation for my bf and myself, and i wondered which songs i should put on it, i am finding trouble because all of them are so good, and i can't put them ALL on, but it would be nice, but not possible somehow.

Please give me your views on likely songs.

Cheers then.


(Someone else didn't want to help me in my own thread).


From Awake:
Scarred, 6:00 and Space-Dye Vest

From Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory:
Overture 1928, Fatal Tragedy and The Spirit Carries On.

From Images and Words:
Under A Glass Moon, Metropolis: Part 1 (The Miracle And The Sleeper) and Take The Time


....yeah, I'm tired now :wave:

[Aimée]

I've only started to get into DT, and so far i've liked the songs i've heard :) The one i keep listening to though is, As i am, great song.

[Firecracker]

From Awake:
Scarred, 6:00 and Space-Dye Vest

From Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory:
Overture 1928, Fatal Tragedy and The Spirit Carries On.

From Images and Words:
Under A Glass Moon, Metropolis: Part 1 (The Miracle And The Sleeper) and Take The Time


....yeah, I'm tired now :wave:
Cheeries, i haven't heard stuff from awake, but i have some of them, i might give a listen, and see. :)
Definately having metropolis, fata; tragedy and take the time though.

[jpshortstuff]

does anyone have any idea when their next CD is coming out (or if) - im dying of anticipation

[Werny]

I don't really get it. DT are something I usually love. A mix of artiness, 70's psychedelia and heavy metal, it seems like they'd be my favourite band. But alas... they just don't click with me. I have a few albums (ok, 7) burnt, and I love the song Pull Me Under. I love Portnoy's robotic drumming, and Petrucci's mad fast playing, but especially on the heavy stuff I fricking hate the vocals. The singer ruins As I Am (but I love the eargasmic drum solo).

Wait a second... this Overture 1928 song is pretty shnazzy.

Anyway yes, they are very cool in places but yeah... just... I don't know what doesn't keep me coming back. Maybe it's Tool syndrome (they take ages to grow).

I guess my question is, did Dream Theater take ages to grow on anyone here?

[badtaste]

Anyone here also on the DT message board? I've got a bad rep there, so I'll keep my username to my self.

And isn't the new album out in June or something? Check their official website.

[Firecracker]

I just fudging loved "In The Name Of God" and i just bought bought bought.
And i think his voice is brilliant.

[Josh]

in the name of god isn't one of my favourites, its not bad but for me its too long. my favourite song from train of thought at the moment is honor thy father

[jpshortstuff]

honor thy father is pretty **** good but i think endless sacrifice wins it in terms of being a perfected masterpiece that never ceases to encapture the mind and soul in a fiery abyss of incredibleness


just an opinion

[Firecracker]

^i'n shuvving endless sacrifice on, and not honor thy father. Endless sacrifice just rules so much on many levels.

[Grey Incision]

hmm, i needed advice, i like dream theater, but i am not a die hard fan, and i need to know their hardest keyboard solo. A friend of mine can do anything that i've given him by dream theater, but i need the Hardest keyboard solo, try and screw him up.

[jpshortstuff]

try 'Keyboard Solo' on Live In Budokan

[the2stranger]

has he already tried the ytse jam?
or any rudess solo work?
try if you can find something from his 4nyc cd, that pretty nice, and difficult

[jpshortstuff]

Anyone here also on the DT message board? I've got a bad rep there, so I'll keep my username to my self.


i am

why?

[Daven]

i need some help. People say that 6 degrees of inner turbulence last for 42 minutes and i also thought that, but i just bought the cd and i noticed that the 42 minutes is the duration of the six degrees (that are separated songs i think). So whyy people says that it lasts 42 minutes if there is no 6 degrees of inner turbulence song. Or the six songs count as one whole song.

correct me if im wrong

[the2stranger]

the 2nd cd, of 6 degrees off inner turbulence is a concept album, telling a story.
and the story is diveded in 6 'chapters' or 6 individual songs if you like it :p
but the cd is to bee seen as one song :thumb:

[Daven]

oh ok thanx

[pdizzle]

Sorry if this has already been asked, but I wasn't in the mood to go through 39 pages of posts. I've been listening to Dream Theater awhile and recently I've been looking for similar artists, I know of some, but most are instrumental. While that is okay, I would rather have some singing, so...what are some good bands similar to Dream Theater?

[willis2441]

man1 hour ago this thread was more dead than my grandma

[3rdplanet]

Sorry if this has already been asked, but I wasn't in the mood to go through 39 pages of posts. I've been listening to Dream Theater awhile and recently I've been looking for similar artists, I know of some, but most are instrumental. While that is okay, I would rather have some singing, so...what are some good bands similar to Dream Theater?

Symphony X, Threshold and Rush.

[ytsedrummer]

Metallica (some), Rush, Yes, Fate's Warning.

[Firecracker]

I have chosen my compilation.
Pretty cool if you ask me.

[Drumma]

i have images and words album but im not to impressed

[jpshortstuff]

I have chosen my compilation.
Pretty cool if you ask me.

what have you put on it?

[Firecracker]

01 - overture 1928
02 - strange deja vu
03 - fatal tragedy
04 - metropolis
05 - pull me under
06 - another day
07 - take the time
08 - surrounded
09 - as i am
10 - endless sacrifice
11 - scarred
12 - under a glass moon
13 - the spirit carries on

[shamed-angel]

hmm, i needed advice, i like dream theater, but i am not a die hard fan, and i need to know their hardest keyboard solo. A friend of mine can do anything that i've given him by dream theater, but i need the Hardest keyboard solo, try and screw him up.
Try some LTE, Acid Rain, Paradigm Shift, Universal mind, WHen the Water breaks, almost all LTE songs have kickass keys solos.

[Maxen]

Is the new album comming out within two months?

[red barchetta]

Is the new album comming out within two months?
june 7th, i think. check their website

[the2stranger]

did you know, Jordan Rudess will be joining Steven Wilson and the Israeli dude, with their Blackfield unplugged tour?
some bandmembers of blackfield had trouble getting a visum for touring the US, so Rudess had volentered to take over the key parts, I wish I lived in the US, just for that show :upset:

you can read details on the DT site:

http://www.dreamtheater.net

[Triangle]

01 - overture 1928
02 - strange deja vu
03 - fatal tragedy
04 - metropolis
05 - pull me under
06 - another day
07 - take the time
08 - surrounded
09 - as i am
10 - endless sacrifice
11 - scarred
12 - under a glass moon
13 - the spirit carries on
It's alright. I wouldn't have Take the Time and Surrounded on it though. Maybe a track from 6DOIT Disc 1.

[the_theory]

It's alright. I wouldn't have Take the Time and Surrounded on it though. Maybe a track from 6DOIT Disc 1.

Yeah and where are Home and the The dance of eternity

[red barchetta]

Yeah and where are Home and the The dance of eternity
maybe they make the whole thing too long to fit on an cd :p

hollow years should be on there though. now that's a great song

and hell's kitchen

[spaceacefrehley]

hey guys....

I have heard of Dream Theater, but for some reason never got the chance to hear any of their songs. I recently read rumors and many sites that Dream Theater along with King Diamond will be the mystery bands to tour with Megadeth this summer. And since I love King Diamond's music, DT caught my attention. So, can anyone suggest a good bunch of songs for me to get? thanks guys

[vashts80]

Holy sh.it. People, get the official bootleg of "Dream Theater - The Number of the Beast"...the acoustic guitar intro to Children of the Damned is played on keyboard, and LaBrie almost mimmicks Bruce's scream at the beginning of the title track. :D

[The JoZ]

01 - overture 1928
02 - strange deja vu
03 - fatal tragedy
04 - metropolis
05 - pull me under
06 - another day
07 - take the time
08 - surrounded
09 - as i am
10 - endless sacrifice
11 - scarred
12 - under a glass moon
13 - the spirit carries on

I personally wouldn't but Another Day or Surrounded on that, I don't really like them...

I'd replace them both by The Glass Prison, which is IMO, one of, if not their best, song.

[RiceMonster]

hey guys....

I have heard of Dream Theater, but for some reason never got the chance to hear any of their songs. I recently read rumors and many sites that Dream Theater along with King Diamond will be the mystery bands to tour with Megadeth this summer. And since I love King Diamond's music, DT caught my attention. So, can anyone suggest a good bunch of songs for me to get? thanks guys
These songs should do you good:
A Change of Seasons
Yste Jame
Metropolis pt 1
Pull Me Under
Learning to Live
The Mirror
Space Dye Vest
Fatal Tragedy
Home
The Spirit Carries On
Finally Free
The Glass Prison

[The Depressed]

I'd replace them both by The Glass Prison, which is IMO, one of, if not their best, song.

I've never got the fuss about TGP. I don't think it flows that well, I think the 'Run, fast, from the wreckage...' section is WAY too drawn out and feel the solo section is actually pretty boring. And the 1-0-0-0 breakdown riff was utilised WAY better in This Dying Soul. Meh, to each their own I guess.

[The JoZ]

I've never got the fuss about TGP. I don't think it flows that well, I think the 'Run, fast, from the wreckage...' section is WAY too drawn out and feel the solo section is actually pretty boring. And the 1-0-0-0 breakdown riff was utilised WAY better in This Dying Soul. Meh, to each their own I guess.

That's my favorite section of the song. I think the end is drawn out a bit too long personally.

Plus the main riff/verse section/intro are just amazing.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

That's my favorite section of the song. I think the end is drawn out a bit too long personally.

Plus the main riff/verse section/intro are just amazing.
I agree...I love the breakdown riff and the beginning. For me, the first 8 minutes are just...amazing. the riff with with the wah and the way MP comes in...its amazing. I also like JLB and MP singing "Enter the Door..." part and then the transition riff after the breakdown part.

I dont know...its my favorite DT song now...(bumped Learning to Live off its top spot, which is hard to do)

[FlyingPaul_83]

I could listen to glass prison all day and not get bored.....maybe

[BradyEB]

I love the glass prison and this dying soul. I cant wait to hear the next part of the series.

[Magicaltroll]

Anyone here know when the new CDs coming out?

[MAthiAS]

Like June 7th or 11th I think.

[^Dream~Theater^]

the 2nd cd, of 6 degrees off inner turbulence is a concept album, telling a story.
and the story is diveded in 6 'chapters' or 6 individual songs if you like it :p
but the cd is to bee seen as one song :thumb:
its not a concept album, its just about mental illness and is played as one song, but for the cd its just broken up. They play the full 42 mins live.

[The JoZ]

I agree...I love the breakdown riff and the beginning. For me, the first 8 minutes are just...amazing. the riff with with the wah and the way MP comes in...its amazing. I also like JLB and MP singing "Enter the Door..." part and then the transition riff after the breakdown part.

I dont know...its my favorite DT song now...(bumped Learning to Live off its top spot, which is hard to do)

Then why did you say you never got the fuss about it if it's your favorite song? :confused:

You know that the singing in that part alternates between James, John Petrucci and Mike, right?

Mike: Run!
James: Fast, through the wreckage of the past, a shattered glass prison wall behind me
John: Fight!
James Past, walking through the ash, a distant oasis before me

Mike: Crawling!
James: Desparate, crawling on my knees, begging God to please stop the insanity
John: Help me
James: I'm trying to believe, stop wallowing in my self pity...We've been waiting for you my friend, etc...

James + Mike Helllp me....Save mee....

Mike: Enter the door!
James: Desparate!
John: Fighting no more!
James: Help me restore!
Mike: To my sanity!
James: At this temple of hope!
Mike: I need to learn!
James: Teach me how
John: Sorrow to burn
James: Help me return
Mike: To humanity
James: I've been fearless and thorough on the way to this temple of hope!

James: Believe!
Mike: Transcend the pain
James: Living the lie
John: Humility
James: Open my eyes!
Mike: To this new oddessy
James: Of rigorous honesty
Mike: Serenity
James: That I never knew
John: Soundness of mind
James: Help me to find
Mike: The courage to change...all the things that I can

Maybe I didn't need to type that out, but there you go, a little bit of info for DT fanatics :D

[RiceMonster]

Like June 7th or 11th I think.
Hopefully 7th. That's my birthday. :D

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Then why did you say you never got the fuss about it if it's your favorite song? :confused:

You know that the singing in that part alternates between James, John Petrucci and Mike, right?

Mike: Run!
James: Fast, through the wreckage of the past, a shattered glass prison wall behind me
John: Fight!
James Past, walking through the ash, a distant oasis before me

Mike: Crawling!
James: Desparate, crawling on my knees, begging God to please stop the insanity
John: Help me
James: I'm trying to believe, stop wallowing in my self pity...We've been waiting for you my friend, etc...

James + Mike Helllp me....Save mee....

Mike: Enter the door!
James: Desparate!
John: Fighting no more!
James: Help me restore!
Mike: To my sanity!
James: At this temple of hope!
Mike: I need to learn!
James: Teach me how
John: Sorrow to burn
James: Help me return
Mike: To humanity
James: I've been fearless and thorough on the way to this temple of hope!

James: Believe!
Mike: Transcend the pain
James: Living the lie
John: Humility
James: Open my eyes!
Mike: To this new oddessy
James: Of rigorous honesty
Mike: Serenity
James: That I never knew
John: Soundness of mind
James: Help me to find
Mike: The courage to change...all the things that I can

Maybe I didn't need to type that out, but there you go, a little bit of info for DT fanatics :D
I didn't say that, some other dude said that. I thought it was just Mike doing the alt. vocals. Its so bad ***...especially how fast JLB says "I've been fearless and thorough on the way to this temple of hope" part and then it breaks into that riff, which is so bad ***!!! God I love the song!

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Random statement, but does anyone else thing MP's drumming on "Under a Glass Moon" is orgasmic? I love the double bass that continues throughout the song

[Moses]

Then why did you say you never got the fuss about it if it's your favorite song? :confused:

You know that the singing in that part alternates between James, John Petrucci and Mike, right?

Mike: Run!
James: Fast, through the wreckage of the past, a shattered glass prison wall behind me
John: Fight!
James Past, walking through the ash, a distant oasis before me

Mike: Crawling!
James: Desparate, crawling on my knees, begging God to please stop the insanity
John: Help me
James: I'm trying to believe, stop wallowing in my self pity...We've been waiting for you my friend, etc...

James + Mike Helllp me....Save mee....

Mike: Enter the door!
James: Desparate!
John: Fighting no more!
James: Help me restore!
Mike: To my sanity!
James: At this temple of hope!
Mike: I need to learn!
James: Teach me how
John: Sorrow to burn
James: Help me return
Mike: To humanity
James: I've been fearless and thorough on the way to this temple of hope!

James: Believe!
Mike: Transcend the pain
James: Living the lie
John: Humility
James: Open my eyes!
Mike: To this new oddessy
James: Of rigorous honesty
Mike: Serenity
James: That I never knew
John: Soundness of mind
James: Help me to find
Mike: The courage to change...all the things that I can

Maybe I didn't need to type that out, but there you go, a little bit of info for DT fanatics :D

I need to listen to glass prison right now. Its been a while.

[The JoZ]

I didn't say that, some other dude said that. I thought it was just Mike doing the alt. vocals. Its so bad ***...especially how fast JLB says "I've been fearless and thorough on the way to this temple of hope" part and then it breaks into that riff, which is so bad ***!!! God I love the song!

Holy crap, I'm sorry dude, I could've swore you were the guy who posted he didn't like the song, then followed it up saying you liked it...whoops :lol:

I wasn't sure who did the extra vocals until I read the booklet...

I had no idea JP did any vocals till I saw a live video of them doing this song. :amaze:

[red barchetta]

Hopefully 7th. That's my birthday. :D
why lucky you. it is the 7th :thumb:

birthday in june = :thumb:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

why lucky you. it is the 7th :thumb:

birthday in june = :thumb:
Mine's the 9th! Yes...Birthday in June = :thumb:

[the2stranger]

mines on the 1st
birthday in june = :thumb:

[Daven]

February 14th

[IvortheEngineDriver]

OH yes...Gemini's rock! :thumb:

Does anyone else laugh at MP when he wore his leotards on stage? I mean, WTF is he thinking? :lol:

[the2stranger]

what are leotards? :confused:

[Cain]

what are leotards? :confused: One-piece suits that ballerinas wear.

[Triangle]

Random statement, but does anyone else thing MP's drumming on "Under a Glass Moon" is orgasmic? I love the double bass that continues throughout the song
Too right. His drumming on the first cd of 6 Degrees is teh secks as well.

[el doctor]

From: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=815331

DAVE MUSTAINE'S 'GIGANTOUR' SET TO LAUNCH IN LATE JULY;
DREAM THEATER, FEAR FACTORY, DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN AND NEVERMORE
CONFIRMED TO JOIN MEGADETH ON THE MAINSTAGE
FOR SIX-WEEK NORTH AMERICAN TREK

It's called GIGANTOUR, and it's the brainchild of MEGADETH frontman/guitarist DAVE MUSTAINE.

Set to launch in late July, GIGANTOUR is a six-week festival trek co-headlined by MEGADETH and DREAM THEATER, who'll be accompanied by other mainstage acts Fear Factory, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nevermore. Artists for the second stage will be announced in the coming weeks.

GIGANTOUR follows MEGADETH’s sold-out 2004 “Blackmail The Universe” Tour in support of 2004’s THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED--MEGADETH’s tenth studio album--which debuted on the charts at #18 and was critically hailed as a brilliant return to form. Bandmates Glen Drover (guitar), James MacDonough (bass) and Shawn Drover (drums) will once again join MUSTAINE on the road.

GIGANTOUR--whose moniker was inspired by the classic 1960’s cartoon “Gigantor”--will criss-cross North America, with stops in amphitheatres and arenas in cities including Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Washington, Philadelphia, Boston, Denver and Minneapolis, among others. The tour is implementing the “fan friendly” ticket price of approximately $35 each. MUSTAINE notes: “I think people may want an affordable alternative to the choices out there--along the lines of a pure music festival--like Monsters of Rock or Clash of the Titans.”

MUSTAINE handpicked the bands for GIGANTOUR, with a focus on musicianship. “There are few very successful tours out each summer and in order to be significant, I knew the first Gigantour had to make an impact with top bands like DREAM THEATER, Fear Factory, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nevermore.” MUSTAINE wanted to “put together a festival that consisted of positive bands that play heavy music in a high energy environment.”

MUSTAINE comments on the other bands he’s chosen for the GIGANTOUR mainstage. “I think that the variety of playing styles and the credibility of the different players is really exciting. I’m looking forward to spending time with DREAM THEATER--including my friend Mike Portnoy--while on the road. I think DREAM THEATER is unbelievably talented. I can’t wait to see what their set list is going to be for this festival.”

Mike Portnoy from DREAM THEATER comments on the band’s perspective on the tour. “I think we probably bring some diversity to the bill, because we’re kind of like chameleons--we can fit into a lot of different situations. We’ve done shows in the past with Iron Maiden, Slayer and Pantera, and then we’ve also done shows with Elton John, Yes and Deep Purple. I think our fan base is very diverse like that too.” Portnoy sees GIGANTOUR as a “kind of a meeting of musicians and metal-heads.” He adds: “I’ve been listening to MEGADETH since day one and always admired them and Dave as an artist--he’s constantly stuck to his guns and stuck by the music he believes in. MEGADETH are one of the pioneers of the genre.” GIGANTOUR marks the first U.S. leg of DREAM THEATER dates in support of their forthcoming release OCTAVARIUM, due out June 7 on Atlantic Records.

MUSTAINE first toured with Fear Factory in 1994. “I think Fear Factory and Dillinger Escape Plan are really going to add something different to the tour and bring some new people in.” He continues, “The frontman of Nevermore [Warrell Dane] used to be in a band called Sanctuary and I produced their first record.”

MUSTAINE is excited to hit the road and has a positive outlook for GIGANTOUR. “I look forward to watching this develop over the years and seeing how we can turn this into something that’s going to stand the test of time. And if this works, and it really works, maybe we’ll take it elsewhere.”

Stay tuned for tour dates, venues and information about the second stage bands to be announced soon.




This would be an absolute dream for me to go to. However, noen of my friends are metalheads so even if the tour stops near here, I doubt I'll go. :(

[the2stranger]

ow ok, well, in the 80/90's they we're ok, but still lookes gay.
now is surely is a big no no, iuw, I respect MP, but not that thing he's wearing, and he has gained some weight compared to the old days, that doesn't make it look any nicer either.

for very wrong DT clothing, watch the 'another day'video.

Mike wears the leotard rhingy there, and has his huge 'fro hairdo.

and the rest looks pretty dumb too, esp. LaBrie.
meh, but it was 'fashion' those days.

[The JoZ]

Holy crap at the Gigantour :eek:

[MAthiAS]

The Gigantour will pwn. I'm pumped for DT and Megadeth of course, Nevermore is great too. I've never listened to DEP, but I hear they're great. No Anthrax or Testament, but hey, its still an awesome tour.

[Josh]

anyone know where i can get the keyboard tablature for wait for sleep? i've looked for ages but haven't found it :upset:

[RiceMonster]

anyone know where i can get the keyboard tablature for wait for sleep? i've looked for ages but haven't found it :upset:
If you have Guitar Pro, you can get one of mysongbook.com. :)

[Josh]

is guitar pro a program? and if so, where do you get it from?