Dream Theater

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, that's mostly the Ronnie Scott's setlist, that's on ACOS, and random other songs, that alot of is on the 5YIAL DVD.

[Duman]

If I was gay, I would go with James Labrie

I like your taste.

[Mars Volta]

I'm just downloading 'The Rudess Experiment' bootleg.
has anyone heard of it? Is it good?

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

How can you quantify emotion? Personally, I think when everyone says, ____ is more emotional, they are really just saying, _____ affects me more and I like them more. I would say almost any musician is trying to express all emotions and ideas through playing, and there's no way to tell who is 'more' of something that is so subjective. imo.

Yes, it's just my opinion. To me, Gilmour and Santana play with tons of emotions. More than anybody else, imo. You make a good point and I do agree with you.

[Happy]

ok sorry to breka up this discussion but....
my friend just sent me a CD jacket of a dream theater CD called "UNCOVERED."
check out the setlist...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/i_love_ff/back.jpg

and teh album front:


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/i_love_ff/front.jpg

am i missing somethig here? or is this real?
i think it is, because he's got the CD on his computer now..downloaded it he said. i've NEVER heard about this bootleg...

i do realize however that most of the songs are from those fan club shows from 5YIALT.

but...interesting. and it's got SDV on there...and i thought they never played it live...


Interesting stuff, Question's been answered but I still want it.

[IbanezSamurai]

I thought they never played space-dye vest live.

[eug008]

ok sorry to breka up this discussion but....
my friend just sent me a CD jacket of a dream theater CD called "UNCOVERED."
check out the setlist...

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/i_love_ff/back.jpg

and teh album front:


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/i_love_ff/front.jpg

am i missing somethig here? or is this real?
i think it is, because he's got the CD on his computer now..downloaded it he said. i've NEVER heard about this bootleg...

i do realize however that most of the songs are from those fan club shows from 5YIALT.

but...interesting. and it's got SDV on there...and i thought they never played it live...
Is it a boot or somthin? (Also have on computer)

[eug008]

I thought they never played space-dye vest live.
They haven't, it's just the demo with Kevin Moore on vocals

[Happy]

Is it a boot or somthin? (Also have on computer)
Yeah.

Aren't Dt the most bootlegged band around?
Or one of?

[Duman]

Yeah.

Aren't Dt the most bootlegged band around?
Or one of?

Yeah cos Mikey loves teh bootlegz.

[Liquid Fantasy]

What is a bootleg?
*feels dumb*

[Happy]

A recording of a live show made by fans.

[Prince of Darkness]

It's when you're wearing boots.

EDIT: damn :(

[Liquid Fantasy]

Oh ok, thanks :lol:.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Isn't 'past (into the sun)' or whatever called 'dont look past me' ??

[eug008]

Dunno, has anyone here got dont look past me?

[The Wizard of Oz]

You guys sick of DT yet?

[Moses]

You guys sick of DT yet?
:lol:

Funny guy, you are.

[The Wizard of Oz]

It's just a matter of time mate. It's inevitable.

[Moses]

I get sick of them every once in a while. Don't even listen to them all that much. I just like them.

I thought it was funny what you said though.

[eug008]

Oz, do you even like progressive rock/metal?

[Chu]

You guys sick of DT yet?
I like that you take the time to look in on us occasionally :)

I appreciate it.

[The Wizard of Oz]

What city you from, Chu?

[ghettoeddo]

wizard, just cut teh crap and deal w/ the fact that dream theater has fans haha

none of us here are going to be converted.

inevitable eh?
how ignorant :smoke:
EDIT: oh, if anyone wants that bootleg...ill get it off my friend once i get back home and ill pass it around. it'll be about 2 weeks though.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Dunno, has anyone here got dont look past me?
Yeah i've got it, you want?

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

You guys sick of DT yet?
Does it look like it?

[Chu]

What city you from, Chu?
I was born in Canberra, but my family (Mum's side), is from Hobart, Lenah valley area.

I'm still in Canberra. Doing a Bachelor of Software Engineering at ANU, I want to transfer to Melbourne uni in a few years though.

[Lord Abortion]

Ghettoeddo: Yeah...I wouldn't mind it...I'm building my bootleg collection by leeching off people.

[ghettoeddo]

aiite il make another announcement thing once i get back

[Element of LED 435]

It's just a matter of time mate. It's inevitable.
not gunna happen

[eug008]

Yeah i've got it, you want?
Fo sure, thanks

[Kirk's Puppet]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me

[ghettoeddo]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me
mMmm looks delicious thanks :]

[chorbalan]

Man I hope they go on Gigantour and don't drop out again.

[eug008]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me
Thanks man, they won't be on Gigantour (To the other guy)

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Fo sure, thanks
Gonna need your email adress, i dont have YSI

[Inkstar]

Wow looks like a nice list. I'll be sure to download that one tonight.

[Happy]

Ugh can't download it.

Stupid Megaupload.

[eug008]

Gonna need your email adress, i dont have YSI
Me neither, Megaupload is ****ing me over ATM

My email is egg_knight@hotmail.com

thanks

[sportsfan4427]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me


ooo yes more Dream Theater

[Atica]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me
Whats up everybody? That looks great, I will download it.
What do you think about Petrucci's last side project?

[Happy]

What was his last side project?

I managed to download the songs ace :D

[Kirk's Puppet]

For those that can't use MegaUpload, I'm sorry but I won't be able to upload it somewhere else again at the mean time. I've got quite a slow connection.

Flower Dance, listen to Raise the Knife NOW! :D

[Happy]

Holy hell, this owns.

[IbanezSamurai]

I have found another funny youtbe vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVFn5wpu4Tc
It's kinda stupid at first but it gets better.

[Happy]

:lol:
That's funnier than the exercises one.

Captain sex :lol:

[Atica]

What was his last side project?
I managed to download the songs ace :D

It is Derek Sherinian's "Blood Of The Snake", I'm not sure if it is a recently release. A friend told me about it on school.

[eug008]

It is Derek Sherinian's "Blood Of The Snake", I'm not sure if it is a recently release. A friend told me about it on school.
Yeh it only came out about a few weeks ago, JP's only on 1 or 2 tracks but the whole album is pretty good. I can up it if anyone here wants?

[Atica]

Yeh it only came out about a few weeks ago, JP's only on 1 or 2 tracks but the whole album is pretty good. I can up it if anyone here wants?
OK, yeah I just saw it on DT's page and looks interesting. Please if you can up it i'll be very thankful. :thumb: If you want send it to my e-mail: assabeth@gmail.com

[eug008]

OK, yeah I just saw it on DT's page and looks interesting. Please if you can up it i'll be very thankful. :thumb: If you want send it to my e-mail: assabeth@gmail.com
Yeh I'll try Uploading it later, heres some samples for the time being on his site

Herrre: http://www.dereksherinian.com/

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Woah i listened to the samples on that site, that is one kickass album.

I think i'm gonna buy it if i can actually find it in any shops.

[eug008]

BTW it's actually not out yet, it comes out at the end of this month. I will probably buy it if i can ever find it in Australia tho

/found it on a torrent site

[Atica]

That would be a great album, I'll also buy it, but it will be by internet because I don't think it will ever come to Guatemala. Thanks eug008 for the samples :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

why'd he get banned?

[eug009]

Yeh i'll try to up the album now, I have no idea why my proper account got banned, it said "Posting of cookie-stealing links on Sputnik as well as the forums", which I didn't do (Must of been hacked). Hopefully it will be sorted out and I will be unbanned or whatever

[eug009]

OK it's up so post our emails

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

edenthemaster@hotmail.com

thank yooou

[Rainmaker]

ill take the album please!!!??

power_metal_dave@hotmail.co.uk

cheers

[eug009]

OK sent to both of yous

[bwnstl]

Wait, what did you upload?

[Atica]

The album is amazing!!! Thanks eug :thumb:
He uploaded Derek Sherinan's Blood of the Snake, an album where he plays with Petrucci, Slash, Malmsteen, Zakk Wylde, and many other musicians.

[bwnstl]

Oh hell, let me get in on that.

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

Thanks!

[eug009]

Sent buddy

[bwnstl]

Thanks a lot bro, can't wait to give this a listen.

[Inkstar]

Dude I'm in!

matt.rar@gmail.com

Thanks heaps dude!

[Happy]

Can I still get it?

jevgenji_hershplinikov @hotmail.co.uk
Cheers

[Lord Abortion]

me too, then.

olliethegreat_6 @hotmail.co.uk

[eug009]

Of course, sent to you all

[Happy]

Thanks.

[3FingeredHoek]

Can I still get it?

sandyevan@gmail.com

[Up The Irons]

I read that Steven Wilson said that the Portnoy/Wilson/Opeth dude (name slipped my mind) will not be happening for a while. :(

[Daven]

Its Mikael Akerfeldt. Did he say why?

[Chu]

Flower Dance, is that email for MSN too? :D

[Up The Irons]

Its Mikael Akerfeldt. Did he say why?

Both Steven Wilson and Micheal Akerfeldt have very little time in the near future for such a project (I believe Porcupine Tree is making anew album for release in early 2007). I think some more info is on the PTree website

[Moses]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXwPVqZKjY

Best DT vid.

[Inkstar]

Of course, sent to you all

Thanks so much dude!

Speaking of videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywPuWyh-gCU&NR

Bahahaha.

[Chu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLXwPVqZKjY

Best DT vid.
Wow, that's pretty damn good. Imagine if he could keep it going though :eek:

[Lord Abortion]

That rapes anyone who says he sucks in the arse.

[Happy]

Flower Dance, is that email for MSN too? :D
Why yes it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm49PFQ0stw

haha, ace.

[bwnstl]

I didn't find that one as funny. :(

[Happy]

I did because of Myung's voice.

And that bit at the end.

[Chu]

Hope you don't mind if I add you to MSN Flower Dance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm49PFQ0stw
Heh, pretty funny, but I don't like ripping Myung. He's so pro.

[Atica]

The video is funny, not as much as the last one, but still pretty cool.

[GenuineImitation]

I read that Steven Wilson said that the Portnoy/Wilson/Opeth dude (name slipped my mind) will not be happening for a while. :(


This is very disappointing news...

[eug009]

Can I still get it?

sandyevan@gmail.com
Fo sure sent, yeh it is dissapointing, I was looking forward to that

[Happy]

Hope you don't mind if I add you to MSN Flower Dance.


Heh, pretty funny, but I don't like ripping Myung. He's so pro.
Yeah it's cool.

Meh, It's just like the JP ripping, Myung's just so quiet you forget he's there half the time.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Damn:( download limited reached.

[MRDuCran]

Would I be able to get that DS album too please?

kirkhammettlive@hotmail.com

[eug009]

Damn:( download limited reached.

Megaupload has a download limit?

[eug009]

Would I be able to get that DS album too please?

kirkhammettlive@hotmail.com
Sent

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Megaupload has a download limit?
Apparently so, edenthemaster@hotmail.com (incase your legendary enough to send again)

[MRDuCran]

Sent

Thanky. :chug:

[eug009]

Apparently so, edenthemaster@hotmail.com (incase your legendary enough to send again)
Strange still works for me, sent anyways

[Kreator2112]

Bump.

Honor Thy Father is a great song. I don't know why people hate Train of Thought.

Anyone care to discuss?

[Shattered_Future]

Yea, Train Of Thought is one of my favorite DT albums. What does everybody have against it?

[Kreator2112]

Probably because it was a change from their old writting style.

Images and Words.

[Up The Irons]

Train of Thought is a fun album

[Happy]

Yea, Train Of Thought is one of my favorite DT albums. What does everybody have against it?
To heavy, Too much wanking, Not prog enough.
Those aren't my opinions, but what I've heard people say about it.

I love the album.

[Lord Abortion]

I love ToT alot, too.

It's mainly the DT casuals that don't like it.

[Happy]

Or the die hard 90's fans.

[EinzingerIsGod]

ToT feels way too nu-metal for my liking.

[eug009]

ToT is good but as someone said too much guitar wank

[GenuineImitation]

ToT feels way too nu-metal for my liking.

Nu-Metal?

I see a more metal influence, but definetly not nu-metal.


Its a month until "Scores" is released. Hope my poster is on the DVD.

[Up The Irons]

You went? How was it?

By the way, call me a nubaloobaloo, but I like their more recent stuff more than the 90s stuff for the most part.

[GenuineImitation]

You went? How was it?

By the way, call me a nubaloobaloo, but I like their more recent stuff more than the 90s stuff for the most part.


It was great. You'll love the DVD, especially when the orchestra comes out. The set list was almost perfect. I would have prefered Home or Strange Deja Vu for their Scene From a Memory song. Also, they could have played another song for Falling Into Infinity considering Raise the Knife was technically not on the album.

[Up The Irons]

I think I saw the setlist at one point and was thuroughly impressed.

[eug009]

Heard some samples and it sounds great

[Lord Abortion]

It was great. You'll love the DVD, especially when the orchestra comes out. The set list was almost perfect. I would have prefered Home or Strange Deja Vu for their Scene From a Memory song. Also, they could have played another song for Falling Into Infinity considering Raise the Knife was technically not on the album.
They played Peruvian skies, right?

I think if when I see them, they played Take away my pain, that would be just perfect.

That and Surrounded, obviously


oh...and Hollow years

[Inkstar]

Nah man they didn't play Peruvian Skies. Raise The Knife was the only FiF song, despite it not actually being on the album. There wern't too many others to do, because most of the album ('s good songs) has already been done on Live DVD's, so the fans don't really want much repetition. I reckon it was a good choice.

I also think that The Spirit Carries on wasn't the best choice - Home would've been much cooler. Or perhaps Finally Free.

But yeah, pretty good setlist imo. Panic Attack would've been an awesome choice rather than one of the ballads (well, IWBY isn't really a ballad, but it's a lighter song) though.

[Lord Abortion]

Nah, man, the spirit carries on ftw

[eug009]

Nah man they didn't play Peruvian Skies. Raise The Knife was the only FiF song, despite it not actually being on the album. There wern't too many others to do, because most of the album ('s good songs) has already been done on Live DVD's, so the fans don't really want much repetition. I reckon it was a good choice.

I also think that The Spirit Carries on wasn't the best choice - Home would've been much cooler. Or perhaps Finally Free.

But yeah, pretty good setlist imo. Panic Attack would've been an awesome choice rather than one of the ballads (well, IWBY isn't really a ballad, but it's a lighter song) though.
Pfft you get Panic Attack and The Glass Prison on the Gigantour DVD so it's all good

And Finally Free>The Spirit Carries On

[Inkstar]

Ah, that is true. Thanks for pointing that out eug ;)

And yes, Finally Free is awesome.

[Happy]

The drums at the end are insane. I love it.

[eug009]

Ah, that is true. Thanks for pointing that out eug ;)

And yes, Finally Free is awesome.
No problem, damn theres gonna be a lot of stuff for me to buy in the coming months

[GenuineImitation]

When does the Gigantour DVD come out?

[Happy]

Umm I'm not entirely sure but I believe it's August or September. It's somewhere in the Megadeth thread.

[Kreator2112]

I bought 'John Petrucci's Wild Stringdom' today. Seems like an excellent guitar book.

[Happy]

Where'd you get it?

[Atica]

I bought 'John Petrucci's Wild Stringdom' today. Seems like an excellent guitar book.
That's a great book, Petrucci explains pretty well everything, and you can learn how to play Chopin's Piano Concerto in A minor, Opus No. 2.
I got it last yeear, my old guitar teacher gave it to me. :p

[Mazeppa]

That's a great book, Petrucci explains pretty well everything, and you can learn how to play Chopin's Piano Concerto in A minor, Opus No. 2.
I got it last yeear, my old guitar teacher gave it to me. :p
How could you possibly do that piece justice on a guitar? Oh, and Chopin's concertos are Opus Nos. 11 and 21 :\

Edit:and he didn't compose one in A minor as far as I can tell...

[Inkstar]

The drums at the end are insane. I love it.

Yep. On the live version, that is, of course. Mind you, the studio version still has some good drums. I LOVE the way Mike's kit is mic'd on SfaM. Absolutely love it. It's an orgasmic sound. And even though at the end of Finally Free he doesn't go too wild (studio), it still sounds great because of his kit.

Awesome kit + awesome mic setup = orgasm x100000.

Or maybe that's just cause I'm a drummer. :P

On the topic of insane drums, how good is the end of Home on Metropolis 2000! Awesome drum bust out, and JP holds that end note really well. Same goes for Octavarium on the Score mp3 teaser (JP holding note).

Oh, I had a dream last night that I was like backstage on the night SCORE was being recorded. Got to see the orchestra and stuff. It was hell weird.
Then for some reason, I was out the front of Radio City (I looked at pics of it last night on the net) and I bought my ticket, went in, and got front seats. DT were about to come on, but there was problems with the stage curtain and it didn't come up, and eventually they cancelled the show and said they'll give us free tickets to another show in November. >_>

[Atica]

How could you possibly do that piece justice on a guitar? Oh, and Chopin's concertos are Opus Nos. 11 and 21 :\

Edit:and he didn't copose one in A minor as far as I can tell...
Well, on the book, it is as Chopin's Piano Concerto in A minor, Opus No. 2, and Petrucci wrote it like three times. I just looked for that song in my computer and foud that it is named as Etudes Op.10 No.2 in A minor, so I think that you are right and there's a mistake on the book.
Here is the link so you can see how Petrucci plays it. (it is almost at the end of the video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzBkC4G-qE

[Kreator2112]

Where'd you get it?

Guitar center. I went through and played the first tabbed excersize. It's just his warm up routine.

[eug009]

When does the Gigantour DVD come out?
CD: August 22
DVD: September 5

[Kreator2112]

Yea the Chopin piece is pretty fast. It might take me a while to get through the book.

[Atica]

Yeah, I jumped until that part when I was on example 95. Itis pretty hard to play, but all the excercises help for that final performance. Hope you like the book and when learn how to play Chopin's piece, tell me. :p

[Kreator2112]

Thanks, I should enjoy it.

[eug009]

**** I gotta find this book

[Inkstar]

Aus/UK fans rejoice!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GIWS7E/202-6828288-7813459?v=glance&n=283926&v=glance

Pre-order your PAL copy now, bitches. :naughty:

[eug009]

How much is it in Aus $ ? I am expecting it to be $50 on shelves down here as all the DT dvds are

[Inkstar]

It's about $36 bucks for us, eug. But that's without postage. w/ postage should only be around $40. So that's pretty good.

Where abouts in Aus are ya eug?

[eug009]

Brisbane, I go to JB for all my DVD and CD's

[Inkstar]

Oh sweet. I'll be in Brissy this coming week (Monday - Friday). I'll add ya to msn.

[Happy]

Aus/UK fans rejoice!!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000GIWS7E/202-6828288-7813459?v=glance&n=283926&v=glance

Pre-order your PAL copy now, bitches. :naughty:
Wow, that's a lot cheaper than I expected.

[Mazeppa]

Well, on the book, it is as Chopin's Piano Concerto in A minor, Opus No. 2, and Petrucci wrote it like three times. I just looked for that song in my computer and foud that it is named as Etudes Op.10 No.2 in A minor, so I think that you are right and there's a mistake on the book.
Here is the link so you can see how Petrucci plays it. (it is almost at the end of the video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzBkC4G-qE
Yeah, that's Chopin's Etude Opus 10 No.2 in A minor. Pretty cool rendition, but hardly as difficult as the original.

[Inkstar]

Just pre-ordered both the SCORE DVD and CD's together :D:D

Can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!

[Firecracker]

I'm gonna pre-order them when I have money.

[Psyclone]

What would be a good Dream Theater CD to buy if I'm just getting into them?

[eug009]

Their best 3 CD's are

Images and Words
Awake
Scenes From A Memory

If you want the more prog DT get those or if you want the more metal DT get Train Of Thought but I'd go with those first

[Psyclone]

Alright. Thanks.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

If you only end up getting one get SFAM first imo.

[Kreator2112]

I & W is their best work..imo..

[DaveTheAmazing]

6DOIT is easily their best.

[Happy]

Nah.

I&W may be their best but I believe SFAM is more accessable.

[DaveTheAmazing]

I think I&W and SFAM are both too warm and, dare I say it, poppy. 6DOIT, on the other hand, has this melancholy, dark tone to it that is just epic.

NP: Misunderstood :smoke:

[iceman3019]

i think "blind faith" off of six degrees of inner turbulance is one of dream theater's best songs . . .

[eug009]

Yeh, I like all the songs on that CD except The Great Debate

[Lionheart1827]

i think "blind faith" off of six degrees of inner turbulance is one of dream theater's best songs . . .

Blind Faith is my favorite song on 6DOIT, then Great Debate/VIII-Losing Time:thumb:

[Inkstar]

I would say SfaM is DT's best work, however you kinda need to listen to Metropolis part 1 to fully appreciate it. So yeah, SfaM just edges out I&W for me, but I still love I&W to death.

[FatalEnergy]

Six Degrees....is the only DT album I don't have. It's always been a bit on the expensive side when I see it. Is it worth getting?

[Darkness]

That's because it's two discs. Yeah, it's worth getting just for the first disc. I find the second a bit bland, but you may like it.

[eug009]

Definatly, especially since they play the whold second disk on score which i'd say you would be getting

[eug009]

That's because it's two discs. Yeah, it's worth getting just for the first disc. I find the second a bit bland, but you may like it.
I actually like most of the second disk, especially about to crash

[FatalEnergy]

I'll look on Amazon.com when I get some money and see if I can find a cheap copy.

[heavy metal kid]

My favorite song of 6DoIT is The Test that Stumped them All, i love the weird backing vocals and the crazy intro.

[Darkness]

I actually like most of the second disk, especially about to crash
I really, really don't. Believe me, I've tried to get into it. The lyrics are horrible.

[Inkstar]

Yeah, I find 6DOIT is kinda hard to get into. The first disc is brilliant. The title track, however, takes some convincing. But I still think it's a great album.

[Kreator2112]

I got 6DOIT free...from a..friend. Yes, a really close friend.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

My favorite song of 6DoIT is The Test that Stumped them All, i love the weird backing vocals and the crazy intro.
I love that part too, me and my friend always sing along to it even though half the time we get the words wrong.
Its actually portnoy that does that backing bit.

And yeah i hate the way SDOIT is so expensive...i mean i know its two disks but does that really warrant charging 24 british pounds for it??

[DaveTheAmazing]

Does anyone know if I'll be able to burn all the songs from Score onto my computer in the same fashion that I would do with a CD, if I just buy the DVD?

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

I know that it is Possible but you cant do it with wmp or anything like that, i'm pretty sure you need a special program.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

i think "blind faith" off of six degrees of inner turbulance is one of dream theater's best songs . . .
I think you're right there actually, it really grew on me and now i cant get enough of it.

[Kirk's Puppet]

I don't like 6DoIT's Disc 1. The title track is awesome.

I personally isn't a big fan of Rudess-era-DT to be honest.

[eug008]

Does anyone know if I'll be able to burn all the songs from Score onto my computer in the same fashion that I would do with a CD, if I just buy the DVD?
Yeh you can do it, just google for a program

[eug008]

I don't like 6DoIT's Disc 1. The title track is awesome.

I personally isn't a big fan of Rudess-era-DT to be honest.
I prefer Moore over Rudess but I still think Rudess is a great keyboard player, Moore era>Rudess era tho

[Kirk's Puppet]

Here's a bunch of DT's unreleased tracks.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J1QJZF2F

You're welcomed.

Edit: Track list:


1. To Live Forever '94
2. Take the Time (Demo)
3. Eve
4. You Or Me
5. The Way It Used to Be
6. Don't Look Past Me
7. To Live Forever '91
8. Raise the Knife
9. Where Are You Now?
10. Cover My Eyes
11. Speak to Me

Quoted for others who missed it.




eug, there's no doubt thar Rudess is better technically. His changes to Kevin's WDADU parts are very bad though. For instance Only A Matter of Time.

[DaveTheAmazing]

Maybe I should just buy the CD instead of the DVD.

[Atica]

Yeh dave you should buy the cd. :)

[Lord Abortion]

Misunderstood and Disappear are my favourites off the first 6Doit disk and Goodnight kiss and solitary shell off the second

[Shattered_Future]

I never really liked the second disc too much, and the only song I've really listened to off of the first was TGP.

Moore can write music that's TONS better, but Rudess can play much better.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Goodnight Kiss is probably my favourite Petrucci moment. That solo changes mood so effortlessly. And the Great Debate is a great song, managed to convert my friend to DT through it, as she's really into the stem cell research issue.

[Moses]

Moore can write music that's TONS better, but Rudess can play much better.
I disagree. Rudess is pretty much the epitome of the perfect musician. Moore's music is more interesting but I wouldn't say it's better because Rudess just knows more about music in general. Plus Rudess's solo stuff is pretty badass as well.

Rudess's music is objectively better, whereas more people can enjoy Moore's music in general.

Keyboard players are in high demand right now, which is awesome for me. :)

[FatalEnergy]

I think Moore was slightly better, because he fell into less wankery than Rudess.

[Roo_bass]

I like Sherinian.

*runs*

[Happy]

Sherinian didn't write anything on FII though did he?

[FatalEnergy]

I don't think he did, and he didn't write A Change of Seasons. That was Moore. So, he didn't really do anything

[Happy]

Yeah, they did tell him though that he was only temporary. So he knew his days were numbered.

[Koto]

My fav from 6 degrees has to be solitary shell

[Happy]

Mine's Disappear.

[Lord Abortion]

I can't pick a favourite overall from the two disks, that would be evil to make me do it.

[FatalEnergy]

I still need to get that album. That and Octavarium are the two I don't have.

[eug008]

Yeah, they did tell him though that he was only temporary. So he knew his days were numbered.
Meh, he's got his solo stuff insted which is pretty kickass

[eug008]

My fav from 6 degrees has to be solitary shell
My favourite would probably be Blind Faith followed by The Glass Prison

[Roo_bass]

I don't think he did, and he didn't write A Change of Seasons. That was Moore. So, he didn't really do anything
Oh, snap.

[DaveTheAmazing]

Does anyone know what the "Octavarium cartoon" is, exacly? On the mikeportnoy.com forums, it is mentioned as being one of the bonusses of the Score DVD.

[Lord Abortion]

It was the cartoon they ran on the video screen when playing Octavarium live last tour.

[eug008]

/Probably in youtube, ill check it out tomorrow

[Lionheart1827]

Does anyone know what the "Octavarium cartoon" is, exacly? On the mikeportnoy.com forums, it is mentioned as being one of the bonusses of the Score DVD.

It was played during one of the instrumental parts during Octavarium. It's pretty funny and cool at the same time.:thumb:

[Happy]

Yeah it's pretty weird, it's just a visual display of the part where James sings the words that seem to make no sense together.

[GenuineImitation]

It was played during one of the instrumental parts during Octavarium. It's pretty funny and cool at the same time.:thumb:

If I remember correctly, Rudess was dressed as either a Wizard or Santa for part of the cartoon.

[temporary]

Hey, has anyone heard of the band Frameshift? Their a side project with James LaBrie, I just got their album Unweaving the Rainbow. Dumb title, but its really good.

[GenuineImitation]

I didnt know James had a side project other than his solo stuff. Is it similar to DT?

[temporary]

I didnt know James had a side project other than his solo stuff. Is it similar to DT?

Sort of, but its more direct and more James' show.

[GenuineImitation]

Sort of, but its more direct and more James' show.

So its more like Another Day or Hollow Years than The Glass Prison on Never Enough?

[Lord Abortion]

If you haven't heard he, Devin Townsend and Mikael Akerfeldt on Ayreon's wonderful The Human Equation...you really, really should.

[GenuineImitation]

If you haven't heard he, Devin Townsend and Mikael Akerfeldt on Ayreon's wonderful The Human Equation...you really, really should.


No, I havent heard it. I havent heard new much music since my sound card stopped woring. I just listen to what I have on CDs. Its a real bummer.

[pate]

You need to. Amazing album, but with a lame as hell ending.

[eighty d]

For another of James's projects check out Mullmuzzler. I think that's what it was called.

And yes The Human Equation is an absolute masterpiece of an album. When I first got it I could not stop listening to it.

[Shattered_Future]

If you haven't heard he, Devin Townsend and Mikael Akerfeldt on Ayreon's wonderful The Human Equation...you really, really should.

And Marcela Bovio, bitch. :mad:

I was listening to that album last night. Love it...almost as good as Into The Electric Castle.

[GenuineImitation]

You need to. Amazing album, but with a lame as hell ending.


I will when I get my computer fixed.

[Lord Abortion]

And Marcela Bovio, bitch. :mad:

I was listening to that album last night. Love it...almost as good as Into The Electric Castle.
Who?

[Lionheart1827]

If I remember correctly, Rudess was dressed as either a Wizard or Santa for part of the cartoon.

Both.:thumb:

Or at least he has a hat on, then all of a sudden his head transforms into a santa head. It was a very "omgwtf" moment.:thumb:

And yeah Frameshift is pretty good.

[GenuineImitation]

Both.:thumb:

Or at least he has a hat on, then all of a sudden his head transforms into a santa head. It was a very "omgwtf" moment.:thumb:

And yeah Frameshift is pretty good.


I seem to remember more of the cartoon than I thought. A little less than a month until its released gentlemen.

[Lionheart1827]

I seem to remember more of the cartoon than I thought. A little less than a month until its released gentlemen.

I hope I'm immortalized on this dvd. If the camera pans to the right orchestra section(looking at the stage), then I'll be in clear view. :thumb:

[GenuineImitation]

I hope Im immortalized (and my MX shout out sign) as well. I was on Myung's side.

[FuzzyDuck]

For those of you who were at the concert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsfvuBtfqWM&search=Dream%20Theater

Dream Theater covering "Money"

[eug008]

Awsome video, nice to see another Mighty Boosh fan (your avatar)

[GenuineImitation]

For those of you who were at the concert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsfvuBtfqWM&search=Dream%20Theater

Dream Theater covering "Money"


Is that the same cover of money as their Dark Side of the Moon DVD?

[eug008]

Think so, it says on the side, anyone here own the DVD? I would order it but it would probably take months to get to Australia

[Lord Abortion]

I'm going to raid YTSEjam records when I get some money in my bank account.

[eug008]

Yeh they got a lot of interesting CD's and DVD's I want

[blizzard]

That video was great.

[GenuineImitation]

I'm going to raid YTSEjam records when I get some money in my bank account.


I would do that if i had a credit card, but I dont. I guess I'll just wait for Christmas.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Yeah i would also do that if it wasn't for lack of a credit card, however i can get my mate to order it and i just give him the money.


Takes 4-6 weeks though:( i want my DT now.

[Happy]

I hate that. By the time it's arrived, you forget you've ordered it.

[pizzapie88]

Quoted for others who missed it.

I would have missed it if it weren't for that post. Thanks heaps :thumb:

[FatalEnergy]

I saw them play Comfortably Numb with Queensryche. Absolutely amazing.

[eug008]

That video pwns any other comfortably numb cover, just amazing

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

I hate that. By the time it's arrived, you forget you've ordered it.
Its better to forget about it though cus then its a nice surprise when it arrives, as opposed to a long agonizing wait.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

By the way does anyone have any other audio or video of the DSOTM gig?

[eug008]

Yeh, I uploaded that CD (both disks) a while ago. Email?

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Holy ****!!! pleeease.
I feel bad for not buying it but i dont have a debit card..and meh 4-6 weeks.

edenthemaster@hotmail.com

[jpshortstuff]

watched all of Scenes from New York w/ Commentary last night. i feel enlightened.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

I remember when i did that, i felt enlightened too.

[GenuineImitation]

Yeh, I uploaded that CD (both disks) a while ago. Email?


Would it be possible for me to get that as well?

Rock15guitarist@aol.com

[bwnstl]

Am I the only one on earth who thinks that Comfortably Numb isn't a good song?

[pate]

Yes.

[Lord Abortion]

Yes, yes you are.

[Shattered_Future]

I think I'm the only one that thinks Pink Floyd isn't very good. So I win.

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Nah i've heard a few people say that.

Let me guess, you think they are "pretentious"

[ghettoeddo]

wow it's been a long time since i've been here...

has anyone else pre-ordered "score" yet?
i'd do it but...idk the address of my college dorm which is where ill be august 29th :(

[GenuineImitation]

wow it's been a long time since i've been here...

has anyone else pre-ordered "score" yet?
i'd do it but...idk the address of my college dorm which is where ill be august 29th :(


I dont see the need to preoreder it. No one in my town listens to them really, so there will be a **** load of the DVD's at Best Buy and FYE.

[bwnstl]

Nah i've heard a few people say that.

Let me guess, you think they are "pretentious"

I like some of their songs, but most of their songs I think are just boring (Comfortably Numb being a great example). I just don't get a good feeling listening to it. It's not that they're pretentious, their music just doesn't excite me or make me "feel" it.

[Shattered_Future]

Nah i've heard a few people say that.

Let me guess, you think they are "pretentious"

It has nothing to do with being pretentious. Their music is just plain BORING. It goes nowhere...

[Happy]

I think I'm the only one that thinks Pink Floyd isn't very good. So I win.
No I don't like them either.
They just bore me.

[_Katie138_]

I think DT is one of the few bands who sound as good live as they do in studio. After a lot of let-downs with bands who are awesome in the studio but sound terrible live, this is an awesome find. They're pretty much all-in-all amazing in my opinion.

[FuzzyDuck]

By the way does anyone have any other audio or video of the DSOTM gig?

Yeah, here's the video of them playing "Time":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8azfm_LWn0&search=Dream%20Theater

[711]

Im trying to get into Dream Theater, but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions or good starting places?

[Lionheart1827]

Im trying to get into Dream Theater, but I have no idea where to start. Any suggestions or good starting places?

I would like to point you in the direction of Images and Words, because Metropolis part 1 is on it, and that, in my opinion, IS what Dream Theater is all about.

If not Images and Words, get Scenes From A Memory.:thumb:

[pate]

For a starter album, I would recommend Train of Thought. It's enjoyable, and pretty easy to get into.

[711]

Thanks guys. My birthday is coming up on the 7th so Ill look out for those :)

[Atica]

That would be a pretty cool birthday present, and I think you should go for Images and Words.

[iceman3019]

I think you're right there actually, it really grew on me and now i cant get enough of it.
i swear to god, it's the baritone guitar . . . and the dual keyboard/guitar solo during the interlude :thumb: . . .

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

I think DT is one of the few bands who sound as good live as they do in studio. After a lot of let-downs with bands who are awesome in the studio but sound terrible live, this is an awesome find. They're pretty much all-in-all amazing in my opinion.
Yeah that really true, their performances are practicly flawless and the sound quality is always brilliant.


:lol: i found a video of a high school percussion ensemble (mostly xylophones and glockenspiels) covering dance of eternity.


oh and more dsotm stuff please, I NEED MORE.

[Lionheart1827]

:lol: i found a video of a high school percussion ensemble (mostly xylophones and glockenspiels) covering dance of eternity.

Ah, if you have a link or if possible can you send it? I'd love to see that!:thumb:

lionheart1827@hotmail.com

Wtf at edit ^ hehe

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqHrxwRbYRY&search=dance%20of%20eternity%20percussion

There you go man.

[eug008]

Ok sent the DSOTM CD's, make sure you get both disks cause the other one has the Comfortably Numb cover with Queenstryche :amaze:

[eug008]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iqHrxwRbYRY&search=dance%20of%20eternity%20percussion

There you go man.
Holy **** thats awsome

[inassociationwithdeanlearner]

Ok sent the DSOTM CD's, make sure you get both disks cause the other one has the Comfortably Numb cover with Queenstryche :amaze:
Thank you SO much man.

I'm downloading disk one now, but on disk 2 it said my download limit was exceeded.

[eug008]

Yeh Megaupload won't let you download two things at once, just wait till D1 is done