Dream Theater

[ghettoeddo]

i totally agree. when i read pinkfreud's description, i was hurt. i don't think he's heard all that portnoy can do.

i know the poll isn't based all on chops and writing ability, but also on influence and things like that...but portnoy should still do extremely well imo.

to me, he is the epitome of the drumming world right now. i realize people like moon, bonham and peart are much more influential and thus "great," but give portnoy some time...and i think he'll be just as much a legend as them :smoke:

[eug008]

Carey will win the poll (probably) but

Portnoy>Carey

Dance Of Eternity, Erotomania etc..

[Happy]

That's completely opposite to what most people argue about him though :x


Ok, he doesn't say anything about technicality, but I swear in an older round (Maybe the first round Portnoy appeared in), something about his technicality and lack-of-creation.
I think it was something like "just plays technical beats as fast as possible and lacks any creativity"

I think people just think of him as a machine because he's in Dream Theater.

[Inkstar]

Pollstarter has nfi what he's talking about.

[Chu]

Sif Portnoy ever plays as fast as he can... He is a machine...

[nowitzki]

Portnoy is the youngest ever drummer to make the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame.

I don't think anyone is arguing with the fact he's awesome, but obviously when you get to the top 10 its hard to seperate people.

[Lord Abortion]

Pollstarter has nfi what he's talking about.
I totally agree, to be honest. He's very biased towards Classic rock drummers. But that's his particular love, I'm sure if I ran the poll, I would be biased towards drummers from bands I love.

[Happy]

You'd make sure Portnoy would win.

[GenuineImitation]

You'd make sure Portnoy would win.


You say it like its a bad thing.

[Lord Abortion]

I would though:p

NP-Rush-Subdivisions

[red barchetta]

Peart ftw. i'm sorry, but i had to vote for him ahead of Portnoy.

[GenuineImitation]

Peart ftw. i'm sorry, but i had to vote for him ahead of Portnoy.


TREASON!


Peart is a good drummer though.

[Firecracker]

I couldn't really say who was better: Peart or Portnoy
I personally prefer DT over Rush, but that's not really a liable reason.

[ghettoeddo]

TREASON!


Peart is a good drummer though.
that's another thing.

peart is sposed to be so much better than portnoy, but i think it's safe to say that portnoy is much more musically capable and technically capable as well.
the only thing peart has is that...portnoy's drumming derives mainly from peart's.

i love rush and tool but dream theater still takes the cake for me.

someone said that people assume portnoy is a machine because he's in dream theater. i think that's a good point, but it's a completely false assumption to make. sure, they can be at times, but i'd say the majority of their writing flows very well

[eug008]

Yup Dream Theater is the prog band I listen to most

[GenuineImitation]

Yup Dream Theater is the prog band I listen to most


Same here, although I listen to alot of Rush, Spiral Architect, Opeth, King Crimson and Pain of Salvation as well.

[eug008]

I can't really listen to rush or any other 70's prog because of the vocals, but I like the instrumentals etc...

[Happy]

I just don't like Rush that much. Good band but I'm just not really interested.

[Chu]

Flower Dance, check this (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=53153) out :eek:

So good, Petrucci + Friedman :o

[Happy]

ATTN THREAD:

I have just creamed my pants.

I cannot wait.

[GenuineImitation]

That sounds really cool. Two of my top favorite guitarists on one album sounds amazing.

[eug008]

Flower Dance, check this (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=53153) out :eek:

So good, Petrucci + Friedman :o

HOOLLLLLY **** YES

[Inkstar]

*Implodes*

[ghettoeddo]

*splooge*

if im not mistaken, marty friedman is one of the guitarrists for cacophony, amirite? :smoke:

[temporary]

Dear god, Marty Freidmen, John Petrucci, and Steve Vai will be on a record together, and soon Mike Portnoy, Micheal Akerfeldt, and Steve Wilson will be making one together. Sweet.

[ghettoeddo]

yea life is looking pretty good right now.

if only the guitar shop would call me and tell me when my JP sig is coming!!! it's been 3 months...

[Chu]

Marty Friedman has a huge list of music to his name.

Cacophony, Solo and Megadeth (Possible other bands too?).

If you haven't heard any of his solos stuff, I really suggest getting Dragon's Kiss, or Music For Speeding before you get this album.

I prefer Music For Speeding, but Dragon's Kiss is still an awesome CD.

I would love Friedman and Petrucci in a new sort of Cacophony-esque shred band.

[ghettoeddo]

i have a few songs from cacophony like concerto, desert island, speed metal symphony...is that what his solo stuff is like? neo-classical shredding?

cuz then it's like yngwie and i dont like that stuff much :\

[Liquid Fantasy]

Does anyone know when DT is doing another southamerican tour?
I missed them when they came :upset:.

[Moses]

I need ToT still. I think I'll get it today or tomorrow.

[Happy]

Does anyone know when DT is doing another southamerican tour?
I missed them when they came :upset:.
Probably when the next album comes out.
So I think a year or two.

[Clunge]

I am in love with Octavarium, the album is by far my favourite DT album now by quite some way.

The title track matches Close To The Edge for extreme awesomeness to my ears, and that used to be my fave epic.

[Element of LED 435]

i agree

[Lord of Sword]

i have a few songs from cacophony like concerto, desert island, speed metal symphony...is that what his solo stuff is like? neo-classical shredding?

cuz then it's like yngwie and i dont like that stuff much :\

Dragon's Kiss is similar to the stuff he did with Cacophony, since it was written around the same, and I think Marty wrote the majority of Cacophony's music too. The only other solo album of his I have is Music for Speeding, which was in the Daily Upload a few weeks ago. I haven't listened to it all, but the songs I have listened to remind me of Satch.

[Liquid Fantasy]

I am in love with Octavarium, the album is by far my favourite DT album now by quite some way.

The title track matches Close To The Edge for extreme awesomeness to my ears, and that used to be my fave epic.
I love it too, its diferent somehow from the others DT albums...its more.... nostalgic perhaps? anyways its still one of the best DT albums yet.

[ghettoeddo]

I love it too, its diferent somehow from the others DT albums...its more.... nostalgic perhaps? anyways its still one of the best DT albums yet.

i think EVERY dream theater album is superb. save WDADU and FII which are just a LITTLE bit below everything else for me. i could not for the life of me choose my favorite album/song although blind faith has been playing for the past few hours nonstop.
yeayea im a fanboy im not gonna lie.

[eug008]

i have a few songs from cacophony like concerto, desert island, speed metal symphony...is that what his solo stuff is like? neo-classical shredding?

cuz then it's like yngwie and i dont like that stuff much :\

Friedmans solo stuff isn't really like Cacophony

[heavy metal kid]

i have a few songs from cacophony like concerto, desert island, speed metal symphony...is that what his solo stuff is like? neo-classical shredding?


Marty Friedman plays real random stuff, some of the songs sound like Cacophony, others sounds like J-Pop.

[ghettoeddo]

haha sounds like a talented man.
ill be sure to pick him up.
*his album. ew.

we've discussed portnoy, petrucci, labrie and rudess/moore/sheriinarininnarngan a lot so far. well...for the time i've been a regular in this thread anyway.
but what about that korean guy, myung? come ooooonnn people :smoke:
go koreans \m/

[Chu]

Hehe, there was a favourite band member sort of poll before, and I believe the majority of people said Myung.

[heavy metal kid]

Myung is the coolest member of the band, he writes the best lyrics, he doesn't talk too much and he invented the powerful and deadly "Myung takle".

[Chu]

... and he invented the powerful and deadly "Myung takle".
lol

[Captain Quentin]

i can't believe my luck, ive bought I&W, awake, SFAM and octavarium all for 10 bucks each :)

[eug008]

Lucky ****, what shop did you buy from?

[ThunderBass]

Yeah i got I&W, Awake and 8vm for the same price... :) sweet as...

[Element of LED 435]

wens gigantour dvd coming!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I can't possibly imagine what the next DT album will sound like.

[GenuineImitation]

wens gigantour dvd coming!


Portnoy said it will be done in september.

[Lord Abortion]

Whilst revising in a bored way...I came up with my current Ideal DT set.

Surrouded
Home
Trial of Tears
Misunderstood
Voices
The silent man
........................
This dying soul
Take away my pain
Goodnight kiss
solitary shell
Hollow years
Metropolis
..........................
Sacrificed sons
Disappear
The answer lies within
Vacant//In the name of God
About to Crash
The spirit carries on
.........................................
Wait for sleep//Learning to live
A change of seasons

I might make a playlist of this...no live versions of misunderstood or ATC (or obviously the 8VM tracks) :mad:

[Happy]

Yes, when I try and make perfect setlists they always end up to be 7 hours long.

I think it should go Vacant/SOC/In the name of god.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I'm going to hold the world to ransom with an A-Bomb, and make Maiden, Iced Earth and DT headline my 3-day festival.

I choose the sets:mad:

[GenuineImitation]

Yeah, I'm going to hold the world to ransom with an A-Bomb, and make Maiden, Iced Earth and DT headline my 3-day festival.

I choose the sets:mad:


Why stop there. Add Megadeth and a few other bands to the bill.

[Lord Abortion]

Already there. As are Blind Guardian, Cannibal Corpse, Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce, Judas Priest, Cathedral and many others.

/hatches plan.

[GenuineImitation]

Make sure that Priest play a few songs off of Painkiller.

[ghettoeddo]

Already there. As are Blind Guardian, Cannibal Corpse, Sonata Arctica, Dragonforce, Judas Priest, Cathedral and many others.

/hatches plan.

AHHH SONATA ARCTICA!
i call front-row seats to this gargantuan 3-day festival. although the way things are looking...how about a week?

please add porcupine tree. they're really fantastic :]

[Lord Abortion]

Make sure that Priest play a few songs off of Painkiller.
Waaaay ahead of you.

[eug008]

Whilst revising in a bored way...I came up with my current Ideal DT set.

Surrouded
Home
Trial of Tears
Misunderstood
Voices
The silent man
........................
This dying soul
Take away my pain
Goodnight kiss
solitary shell
Hollow years
Metropolis
..........................
Sacrificed sons
Disappear
The answer lies within
Vacant//In the name of God
About to Crash
The spirit carries on
.........................................
Wait for sleep//Learning to live
A change of seasons

I might make a playlist of this...no live versions of misunderstood or ATC (or obviously the 8VM tracks) :mad:

Bootleg?

[Lord Abortion]

I wish...

[ghettoeddo]

NP: scarred

the opening reminds me of like...FF7 or something. idk why. ace solo :thumb:

i couldnt come up w/ an ideal setlist. i'd like every song ever written played. now THAT would be an amazing show...

[Moses]

NP: scarred

the opening reminds me of like...FF7 or something. idk why. ace solo :thumb:

i couldnt come up w/ an ideal setlist. i'd like every song ever written played. now THAT would be an amazing show...
jesus that'd be a long show.

[badtaste]

Ideal setlist would be WDADU to SFAM.

Tried listening to Octavarium for the first time in a few months, and it still doesn't work for me.

I mean a lot of the songs sound good, but in the same way that a pop song can sound good. DT have got all these great melodies, but I am no longer feeling any of those spine chilling/tingling moments. I no longer have this urge to sing along like I do with L2L, ACOS, or anything pre SFAM.

More importantly, they're not 'progressing' any more. All the song structures are practically the same. Compare with 'Only a matter of time' - I still haven't managed to identify that song's structure (it might be just me though). They've also been 'metally' for the last few albums.

[Chu]

One song: I Walk Beside You once it catches you, you won't stop listenning.

[badtaste]

One song: I Walk Beside You once it catches you, you won't stop listenning.

AKA the U2 song. Wailing (sorta) vocals, inspirational theme, delayed guitar melodies, poppy song with simple structure.

[Element of LED 435]

heres my ideal setlist:

Panic Attack
Pull me Under
Stream Of Conciousness
Overture 1928/ Strange Deja Vu
Fatal Tragedy
Take the Time
In the Name of God
-----------------------
Metropolis pt 1.
The Mirror
Lie
About to Crash (reprise)
These Walls
The Spirit Carries On
Solitary Shell
Space Dye Vest
-------------------
The Glass Prison
A Change of Seasons

[Element of LED 435]

one of these days im gunna put those songs in that order on a cd (most likely will take up 3) and listen to it all at once

[eug008]

heres my ideal setlist:

Panic Attack
Pull me Under
Stream Of Conciousness
Overture 1928/ Strange Deja Vu
Fatal Tragedy
Take the Time
In the Name of God
-----------------------
Metropolis pt 1.
The Mirror
Lie
About to Crash (reprise)
These Walls
The Spirit Carries On
Solitary Shell
Space Dye Vest
-------------------
The Glass Prison
A Change of Seasons

Thats a more realistic set

[ghettoeddo]

k here's my horrible attempt at a forced ideal/realistic setlist:

as i am
the mirror
lie
voices
afterlife
take the time
metropolis pt. 1
wait for sleep
learning to live
---------------------
the glass prison
this dying soul
the root of all evil
peruvian skies
home
the spirit carries on
misunderstood
endless sacrifice
sacrificed sons
in the name of god
--------------
octavarium
a change of seasons

[Chu]

tbh I'd be pretty happy seeing The Glass Prison, In The Name of God, The Root of All Evil... A Change of Seasons, and Octavarium.. And maybe some solos (Give a few hours for solos.. I like my wankage :p)...

[ghettoeddo]

as much as i love petrucci...
i could not bear to stand hours of him soloing endlessly.
dear god.

[Inkstar]

Here's mine:

Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
The Silent Man
Another Day
Endless Sacrifice
War Inside My Head
The Test That Stumped Them All
--------
These Walls
Home
The Dance Of Eternity
Metropolis Pt. 1
Scarred
The Mirror
Under A Glass Moon
The Answer Lies Within
--------
Panic Attack
Erotomania
Learning To Live
Finally Free
Pull Me Under
A Change Of Seasons
------------------------
Octavarium

Yah, tad unrealistic I guess, but still it'd be awesome. :)

[Happy]

as much as i love petrucci...
i could not bear to stand hours of him soloing endlessly.
dear god.
Agreed.
I got bored during the LATB version of Beyond This Life.
I know most of it wasn't JP but I get bored watching them jam halfway through songs and stretching them out to 4 hours long.

[Inkstar]

I just created that setlist I posted above, and it's all renamed and put into Disc 1, 2 and 3, and I've made the album "Dream 'Dream Theater' Setlist!' fo shizzle. Listening through the whole thing now. It's awesome!

[Happy]

How long is it :p

[Inkstar]

Fecking long. :P But hey, it's a Dream one! Not a realistic one lol.

Can't imagine how fecked Portnoy would be after it. Even more-so than the Roseland show.

[eug008]

Agreed.
I got bored during the LATB version of Beyond This Life.
I know most of it wasn't JP but I get bored watching them jam halfway through songs and stretching them out to 4 hours long.

I liked JP's solo in the "Jam Section" but i thought Rudess stretched it out way too long tho

[Clunge]

Completely un-real/unlikely setlist.

Take into account also I only really like DT's later work.

Root Of All Evil
As I Am
Honor Thy Father
Beyond This Life
This Dying Soul
Panic Attack
-----
Blind Faith
Disappear
Misunderstood
The Glass Prison
The Great Debate
-----
Strange Deja Vu
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
These Walls
In The Name Of God
-----
Octavarium

[Inkstar]

Yeah I figured that. :P

But that's a pretty nice setlist. Good ending. :thumb:

[Happy]

I liked JP's solo in the "Jam Section" but i thought Rudess stretched it out way too long tho
Rudess seems to live in his own world anyway.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I deliberately chose between 8VM and ACOS, and left out SDV, because they won't play it without Kevmo.

[Happy]

You're telling me they wouldn't play it at gunpoint at your festival?

[Lord Abortion]

You're telling me they wouldn't play it at gunpoint at your festival?
Oh...I forgot about that:D

I feel an extra encore coming on...

[ghettoeddo]

Rudess seems to live in his own world anyway.

i liked the improv jam in BTL on budokan. it was kinda cute the way portnoy bounced around hitting the little coconut things haha. those tiny cymbals are kinda "flirty"-sounding if you get my drift.

i take it you're not a fan of rudess?

[Lord Abortion]

i liked the improv jam in BTL on budokan. it was kinda cute the way portnoy bounced around hitting the little coconut things haha. those tiny cymbals are kinda "flirty"-sounding if you get my drift.

i take it you're not a fan of rudess?
Yeah, I love the little call and response thing with the drums and keyboard, it's brilliant.

[ghettoeddo]

no news yet of a new DT album/tour huh.

*sad*

[Lord Abortion]

I would suspect they'll be writing by the end of Autumn.

[ghettoeddo]

hope so. hope so.
i wouldn't mind them taking their time in getting a good album out.

if i recall correctly...train of thought was written and recorded in 3 weeks? i like ToT but everything is...the same.

[Lord Abortion]

Vacant?

I'm listening to all of LSFNY tonight.

On Home now...love this song.

[ghettoeddo]

vacant was nice, but everything else the same. endless sacrifice is my favorite off of there, followed by ITNOG.

i need to get the CD version of LSFNY

[Happy]

i liked the improv jam in BTL on budokan. it was kinda cute the way portnoy bounced around hitting the little coconut things haha. those tiny cymbals are kinda "flirty"-sounding if you get my drift.

i take it you're not a fan of rudess?
I am a fan. It's just he sometimes drags things out. And smiles for no reason, which scares me.

[Lord Abortion]

You do...the extra songs are amazing.

[ghettoeddo]

yesyes.

NP: the wretched spawn-cannibal corpse

i like their instrumentations, but the vocals REALLY dont do it for me. im not into the death metal/black metal deal w/ growling vocals. i prefer singing.

maybe rudess is a child molester.

[Lord Abortion]

yesyes.

NP: the wretched spawn-cannibal corpse

i like their instrumentations, but the vocals REALLY dont do it for me. im not into the death metal/black metal deal w/ growling vocals. i prefer singing.

maybe rudess is a child molester.
Try The Bleeding, the vocals are more comprehensible.
They're my third favourite band now, and when I first heard them, it took me a while to get into the vocals too.

[GenuineImitation]

yesyes.

NP: the wretched spawn-cannibal corpse

i like their instrumentations, but the vocals REALLY dont do it for me. im not into the death metal/black metal deal w/ growling vocals. i prefer singing.

maybe rudess is a child molester.

While he may look like one, no one from Dream Theater is capable of such a thing.

[Lord Abortion]

Anyone got "acoustic dreams"?

It's like a load of live acoustic stuff...

[GenuineImitation]

Anyone got "acoustic dreams"?

It's like a load of live acoustic stuff...


Never heard of it. is it a bootleg?

[Lord Abortion]

Never heard of it. is it a bootleg?
Apparently so. I'll get it sent to me tomorrow from someone I know.
a female someone:)

I'm lucky with the girls who like DT, it seems:)

[GenuineImitation]

Apparently so. I'll get it sent to me tomorrow from someone I know.
a female someone:)

I'm lucky with the girls who like DT, it seems:)


A GIRL WHO HAD HEARD AND ENJOYS DT? Sorry for the caps, I just got excited. I have never heard of such a thing, at least where I live. Even the so called "metal head" listen to Fall Out Boy and Eminem.

[Lord Abortion]

A GIRL WHO HAD HEARD AND ENJOYS DT? Sorry for the caps, I just got excited. I have never heard of such a thing, at least where I live. Even the so called "metal head" listen to Fall Out Boy and Eminem.
Yep...it's great

/is loved up:)

[GenuineImitation]

I need to find a girl like that. Maybe I'll find one at my university next sepetember.

[ghettoeddo]

i took my girlfriend to see dream theater two times; once at gigantour and the other on this last tour.

she likes the ballads, but not the heavy/progressive stuff.
it's a start right? ><

could i get that acoustic dreams bootleg if you do? thanks :smoke:

[GenuineImitation]

It is a start. I got my sister into Metropolis, but its not the same as getting a girlfriend into a band.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I'll send it on when I get it.

[ghettoeddo]

she turned on backstreet boys and fall out boy in the car today so i made some snide remarks about 'em and she goes "well, at least they dont have the same old solos in every song."

and i went "so...what's the problem again?" :smoke:

[GenuineImitation]

she turned on backstreet boys and fall out boy in the car today so i made some snide remarks about 'em and she goes "well, at least they dont have the same old solos in every song."

and i went "so...what's the problem again?" :smoke:


Should have slapped her right then and there. Outbreaks like that cannot be tolerated.

[Shattered_Future]

Should have slapped her right then and there. Outbreaks like that cannot be tolerated.

Really. You can't have that.

I know no metalheaded girls...though I try, it doesn't work.

[GenuineImitation]

Really. You can't have that.

I know no metalheaded girls...though I try, it doesn't work.

Your from the new york area right?


If so, you'll agree with me when I say the new york/long island area is infested with guidos and white teenagers who think they are from the hood.

[Happy]

Really. You can't have that.

I know no metalheaded girls...though I try, it doesn't work.
Same here.
They're all into the "rock" bands in the charts. Like The Kooks and Artic Monkeys.

Although I do know a couple who are into DT.

[eug008]

i liked the improv jam in BTL on budokan. it was kinda cute the way portnoy bounced around hitting the little coconut things haha. those tiny cymbals are kinda "flirty"-sounding if you get my drift.

i take it you're not a fan of rudess?

Rudess is alright, he's a bit of a hack on some songs

Moore>Rudess tho

[Lord Abortion]

Same here.
They're all into the "rock" bands in the charts. Like The Kooks and Artic Monkeys.

Although I do know a couple who are into DT.
Haahahah

"Rock"

oh my...

[GenuineImitation]

Same here.
They're all into the "rock" bands in the charts. Like The Kooks and Artic Monkeys.

Although I do know a couple who are into DT.


I listened to a few Artic Monkey songs. They are ok, but nothing to get excited about.


In college I plan on getting alot of people into some good rock and metal.

[ghettoeddo]

in college, i am definitely like...gona find people who wanna play GOOD music in a band cuz the one im in...eh. all good friends but they like goo goo dolls, pedro the lion, relient k. BAH.

it'd be orgasmic to cover like...disappear or take the time. oh man.

[GenuineImitation]

in college, i am definitely like...gona find people who wanna play GOOD music in a band cuz the one im in...eh. all good friends but they like goo goo dolls, pedro the lion, relient k. BAH.

it'd be orgasmic to cover like...disappear or take the time. oh man.

Can you play all those songs in their entirety? If so :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

disappear yes.
take the time...minus the solo in the middle yes :]

i think im gonnna play octavarium for my senior recital. it was actaly my girlfriend's idea :] i love her haha
ill play the CD as the backing track and just play along. if i can find someone who'll edit the guitar track out, ill do that.

[GenuineImitation]

disappear yes.
take the time...minus the solo in the middle yes :]

i think im gonnna play octavarium for my senior recital. it was actaly my girlfriend's idea :] i love her haha
ill play the CD as the backing track and just play along. if i can find someone who'll edit the guitar track out, ill do that.


If you leave the guitar track in, everyone will think your a god.

[ghettoeddo]

hey i can play most of it in my own right :angry:
haha

i have a huge favor to ask anyone...does anyone have the sheet music for the PIANO part in liquid tension expeirment's "hourglass?" i've learned the guitar parts and i'd also like to play it for the recital btu im lacking the piano music. it'd be a little difficult to write it out by ear...

[GenuineImitation]

I dont have it, but if you have guitar pro, you should be able to get it off of ulimate-guitar.com

[ghettoeddo]

eehh no luck. i dont have guitar pro, and powertabs only have the guitar parts.

guess im gonna have to write it out by ear or drop it heh.

[GenuineImitation]

Figuring out by ear could be kind of difficult.


Im pissed. I was going to review Train of Thought, but some guy beat me to it.

[ghettoeddo]

a lot of it actually doubles the guitar part. i think i can figure out the right hand pretty easily, but the left hand arpeggios and chords could be tricky. i could take the lazy man's way out and just arpeggiate what the guitar chord is for that bar :]

anywho, BACK to dream theater.
NP: universal mind-LTE <--one crazy guitar riff. CRAZY.

[GenuineImitation]

My friend may use Octavarium as a graduation song because of its "full circle" theme. He is no longer one of the oldest in HS, but now one of the youngest in college.

[ghettoeddo]

HEY i like that.
props to your friend.

it's just like...us 2 talking in here.

[GenuineImitation]

Pretty much, although that will change soon. Im going to go to bed in a few minutes.

Im the one who gave my friend the idea since he is now a DT fan bcause of me.

[ghettoeddo]

ok props to you haha
peace out. im going out to watch THE OMEN :]

happy 6-6-06 fellow dream theater fans~

[GenuineImitation]

Tell me if its worth watching.

Happy 6-6-06 :evil:


Guess it wasnt the end of the world after all. :chug:

[ghettoeddo]

those silly extreme christian groups.

[eug008]

Tell me if its worth watching.

Happy 6-6-06 :evil:


Guess it wasnt the end of the world after all. :chug:

Yeh, strangly nothing happened that day

[ghettoeddo]

yea today was nothing special.
still 11:56PM here :]

ah...the only 6-6-6 of my life. oh well.

i missed the movie cuz it freakign SOLD OUT

[eug008]

What movie?

[Happy]

The Omen I think.

Guess who can play the Universal Mind riff :D

Not me :upset:

But I'm working on it.

[jpshortstuff]

which one, the one at the start? thats pretty cool.
i love the bit where they all have crazy solos, then theres a piano bit and then they go inot that funky bass riff.

[Happy]

Yeah the one at the start.
I keep hitting the B string :p

[jpshortstuff]

/checks TAB
hmm, i didnt know it was string skipping, thats quite hard. im terrible at fast string skipping.

[eug008]

Im getting close to aceing it... i think

[GenuineImitation]

I want to learn Paradigm Shift, but my fingers just dont move fast enough.

[Happy]

Same here.
I just temelo pick and cry :(

[Petrucci]

lol

[Gahhl]

heya guys, i bought Images and Words and listened and listened to it. I love that album also because John Myung played a 4 string bass which makes the songs playable, insainly hard, but playable with a regular base guitar.

Shortly After this i bought tickets to go and watch them live in wolverhampton (anybody go btw?) and they were imense. Whilst watching them 'The Glass Prison' came on and i just stood in awe at the whole bands technical ability.

I bought there entire collection and at the minute i love 6 degrees of inner turbulence, octavarium and train of thought.

Gahhl
Mark

[ghettoeddo]

sup welcome and hope you'll be contributing more to this thread :]


I just temelo pick and cry

story of my life... :upset:
the onyl LTE song i can play is hourglass and that's insanely easy with the excption of a few quirky chords. oh and state of grace.
paradigm shift and biaxident would be orgasmic...

anyone have the same problem? my left hand can move as fast as petrucci (ok maybe not, but ALMOST) but it's always my right hand that can never keep up...

[Lord Abortion]

I love Hourglass, it's my favourite LTE song by far, beautiful.

[Happy]

sup welcome and hope you'll be contributing more to this thread :]



story of my life... :upset:
the onyl LTE song i can play is hourglass and that's insanely easy with the excption of a few quirky chords. oh and state of grace.
paradigm shift and biaxident would be orgasmic...

anyone have the same problem? my left hand can move as fast as petrucci (ok maybe not, but ALMOST) but it's always my right hand that can never keep up...
Yes, my left hand is pretty fast but it's difficult for my right to pick every note even though I can tremelo pick faster than my left hand can move.

If you get what I mean.

[ghettoeddo]

yea i getcha. i think that's the same for most people because it's less movement to pick than to finger; much closer proximity for the right hand.

whoever was shooting for that universal mind riff...i wish you teh best of the luck with that string-skipping opening riff. petrucci = meanie face

[Chu]

Yeah, I have decent legato, but horrible picking, it's just my accuracy, if I had better accuracy, I wouldn't be as bad, I can play quite fast with my right hand (My left hand can go twice as fast though :cool: ) I just can't guarantee I'll hit the string every time, or I'll do some unconscious alt. pick...

[Atica]

Yeah, I have decent legato, but horrible picking, it's just my accuracy, if I had better accuracy, I wouldn't be as bad, I can play quite fast with my right hand (My left hand can go twice as fast though :cool: ) I just can't guarantee I'll hit the string every time, or I'll do some unconscious alt. pick...

That happens to me must of the time, that's why i'm working on it.

[Chu]

I just do **** loads of scale work, and a fair bit of string skipping..

I can't say I'm improving much anymore, at least compared to how much I was when I began these exercises, so I'm really looking for any sort of new exercise.

[Element of LED 435]

im rele improving on the guitar solo for metropolis ( after the crazy fast part where it mostly sounds like keyboards) its so fun to play and i can already play the part before the crazy fast part good and basically my next challenge is to learn the solo for take the time

[ghettoeddo]

dude take the time is ROUGH.
good luck, i haven't had much luck w/ it and it's my favorite DT song right now besides blind faith.

then again, i never realyls it down and just...practice practice practice. i'm completely self-taught and i haven't ever done actual scale work, finger-strength training, picking exercises etc. i just...jumped into it

prolly not the best approach

[eug008]

I tried learning Take The Time but after i saw the 4.34 solo I gave up. The rest I could probably play but that is just whoa

[ghettoeddo]

yea the middle solo w/ the guitar/keyboard dual lead is a beast. a lot fo finger stretching, weird intervals and some string skipping...

the ending solo is MUCH more manageable.

[Happy]

I was put down by take the time. I even found the start hard when the guitar kicks in.

I'll try it again though.

[jpshortstuff]

i like the funky riff half way through on TTT, especially on the Live In Tokyo DVD when they pause halfway through and MP just nods and they all come back in.

[ghettoeddo]

those riffs aren't bad the rhythm might be tricky for the riff in the middle.
the dual guitar/key lead is still the worst...

keep at it flower dance/happy it ain't too bad.

[Atica]

I want to play Metropolis, but now I am dealing up with Black Diamond-Stratovarius (Ihave to play all the keyboard lines on the guitar), when I finish with the solos which is what I miss i'll start for DT. Element of LED 435, good luck man!!!

[ghettoeddo]

metropolis...im not even gonna attempt it yet.
my ultimate goal is to be able to play glasgow kiss :]

[Atica]

metropolis...im not even gonna attempt it yet.
my ultimate goal is to be able to play glasgow kiss :]
That's a great song from the master Petrucci.

I have to make a homeword about Progressive metal, I already know many things about it, but if you can give me some links for getting deeper into it, I'll be very thankfull.:)

[Enlighten Me]

Glasgow kiss is REALLY tough for me, i'm not even talking about the solos and stuff just the main rhythm part (alt picking).
It's really hard to do clean.

[eug008]

Glasglow Kiss is one awsome song tho

[PAJJ]

I was put down by take the time. I even found the start hard when the guitar kicks in.

I'll try it again though.

I had huge timing issues with the start of the song, i felt like such a muppet because on paper it seems so much easier.

[ghettoeddo]

haha a muppet? petrucci tooling you?

it's in a fast 4 right? 12/8 if i remember correcgtly, with the occasional switch into 6/4 and a 7/8.

[Lord Abortion]

i like the funky riff half way through on TTT, especially on the Live In Tokyo DVD when they pause halfway through and MP just nods and they all come back in.
Live in Tokyo DVD?

Is this a one that isn't widely available?

Oh, and anyone who got World Tourbulence from the Daily upload last week and wants to send me it, they can get some e-sex from me for it:)
The links expired. Megaupload if you can, but not Rapidshare, my computer hates it.

I'm uploading Acoustic dreams, so put your emails down for it, kids.

[Drunken Viking]

I got World Turbulence. Would YSI be ok? That's easiest for me.


EDIT: Or if you have AIM that'd be great.

[Lord Abortion]

I got World Turbulence. Would YSI be ok? That's easiest for me.


EDIT: Or if you have AIM that'd be great.
Yeah, either or.
My AIM is Lordollie6

[eug008]

Is wrold Turbulance a Fan Club CD? Is Acoustic Dreams?

egg_knight@hotmail.com

[Lord Abortion]

I'll wait until everyone gets them down, then I'll send it out.
Acoustic dreams is just a load of random acoustic bootleg tracks, and WT is a bootleg from the 6DOIT tour.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Has anyone else noticed that part in "This Dying Soul" around 7:10 that sounds very similar to "Blackened" by Metallica? I thought it was a pretty neat little reference to their influences.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, you also note that they talk about it alot in DVD commentaries...JP will say "This is the Floyd like section", which is cool, really.

[Happy]

Has anyone else noticed that part in "This Dying Soul" around 7:10 that sounds very similar to "Blackened" by Metallica? I thought it was a pretty neat little reference to their influences.
Yeah I noticed that.

It sounds better than Blackened though :p

[temporary]

I'll wait until everyone gets them down, then I'll send it out.
Acoustic dreams is just a load of random acoustic bootleg tracks, and WT is a bootleg from the 6DOIT tour.

I wonder were I could get my hands on Acoustic Dreams. World Tourbalence is awsome.

[Lord Abortion]

I wonder were I could get my hands on Acoustic Dreams. World Tourbalence is awsome.
Give me your email and I'll send it out, I already have it uploaded.

[ghettoeddo]

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

i need this acoustic bootleg thing *pants*

[Lord Abortion]

Sent away.

[ghettoeddo]

got it downloading now.

many thanks <3

[bwnstl]

Could I get the World Turbulance as well? bjwumr AT gmail DOT com
please and thank you very much.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm only uploading Acoustic Dreams...the WT file is massive, and my computer will cut it's connection every 15 minutes anyway.

Another day, perhaps.

I'll send you AD though.

[ghettoeddo]

what's world turbulence?
i'd like to check that out too.


the acoustic guitar tone on "another day" is HORRIBLE ><

[Lord Abortion]

It's a bootleg from the 6DOIT tour

Set is

The glass Prison
6:00
Beyond this life
Surrounded(/cums)
Another hand/The killing hand
Misunderstood(/Cums again)
Lie(With Tool songs jam)
Peruvian Skies
Pull me under
............................
Six Degrees of inner turbulence
............................
The spirit carries on
Take the time/Working man(Rush cover)

[Lionheart1827]

Anybody notice this?

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#score

Sorry if its been posted. I dont feel like checking the previous posts.

August 29th baby.

[Surtr]

Could someone who gets the Daily Upload and has some of the older emails with some DT in them send me some links to the albums?

I accidently deleted some emails with some DT I had meant to download. All I have is today's issue with Six Degrees in it. It would be very much appreciated :)

lightningstrikestwice_13@hotmail.com

[eug008]

What issues did you want? (check upload history)

[Surtr]

5/19/2006
6/2/2006
6/3/2006

Thanks.

[Element of LED 435]

dude i have to see the word turbulence tour, that line up is crazy!

[Element of LED 435]

Anybody notice this?

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#score

Sorry if its been posted. I dont feel like checking the previous posts.

August 29th baby.
the only thing possible better than this is seeing dream theater at gigantour 2.

[Kirk's Puppet]

Anybody notice this?

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#score

Sorry if its been posted. I dont feel like checking the previous posts.

August 29th baby.

Hell yes, I'm so pumped for the DVD. It's gonna be the longest 2 months EVER.

This year is gonna be awesome. Porcupine Tree's DVD and Children of Bodom's DVD too!

[Inkstar]

Anybody notice this?

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#score

Sorry if its been posted. I dont feel like checking the previous posts.

August 29th baby.

Oh that is just ****ING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: and omg it's 2 days after my birthday.

[red barchetta]

It's a bootleg from the 6DOIT tour

Set is

The glass Prison
6:00
Beyond this life
Surrounded(/cums)
Another hand/The killing hand
Misunderstood(/Cums again)
Lie(With Tool songs jam)
Peruvian Skies
Pull me under
............................
Six Degrees of inner turbulence
............................
The spirit carries on
Take the time/Working man(Rush cover)
the set i saw them play at Japan was similar to that :cool:

[Lord Abortion]

That could possibly mean they might play Surrounded again next tour...

/Prays

New DVD/CD looks bloody great

Live bonus tracks:D

[Rainmaker]

It's a bootleg from the 6DOIT tour

Set is

The glass Prison
6:00
Beyond this life
Surrounded(/cums)
Another hand/The killing hand
Misunderstood(/Cums again)
Lie(With Tool songs jam)
Peruvian Skies
Pull me under
............................
Six Degrees of inner turbulence
............................
The spirit carries on
Take the time/Working man(Rush cover)


now thats a set list!!! i want it!!!! where can ya get the whole thing!!!

i cant wait for the dvd, the whole orchestra part is gonna be amazing!!

[Lord Abortion]

It was in the daily upload last week, see if you can get someone without defective internet to do it from there.

[jpshortstuff]

i like the funky riff half way through on TTT, especially on the Live In Tokyo DVD when they pause halfway through and MP just nods and they all come back in.

Live in Tokyo DVD?

Is this a one that isn't widely available?

i dont think so - I&W Live in Tokyo/5 years in a livetime is the one i got

[Lord Abortion]

Oh yes, I have it:p

I just think of the whole thing as FYIALT.

[ghettoeddo]

i really want that 6DOIT bootleg....jesus that's a pretty close-to-perfect setlist right there. if only they had blind faith...*creams*

one of the first things i'm gonna do when i head offf to college is get myself that CD/DVD "score." mMmMmM....

[Happy]

What's up with the DVD being called Score?

[ghettoeddo]

orchestra?
the orchestra music is called the score, where it has every instrument's parts in it.

[Happy]

Yeah I knew that but it's a lame DVD name.

"Dream Theater 20th year anniversary" would've been better.

[Lord Abortion]

What's up with the DVD being called Score?
Because everyone is going to have this conversation;

"Hey, That new Dream Theater DVD is out today"
"Whoa, score!"
"exactly"

[Happy]

Everyone is a few guys from this thread right?

[Lord Abortion]

Yes :upset:

[ghettoeddo]

hey that's ok. that's ok.

as long as i get MY hands on that set...i'm happy.
although it would be nice if everyone in the world was a DT fan.

[Happy]

Not really, It's be like Greenday and American Idiot.

It'd be nice if more people knew about them and appreciated them but the fact they're not very well known makes them special :)

[ghettoeddo]

idk i dont have a problem with them being mainstream at all.
hell i'd like it if DT could beplayed on the radio or MTV and introduced to the mass public, so long as those companies and stations didn't force DT in restricting their songwriting or cutting the songs on the air...

i realize that's what the media does knowadays but IF they didn't...i would have no problem with it.

[Lord Abortion]

*cough*Dragonforce*cough*

[Happy]

Oh dear what happened there.

I wouldn't want something like that to happen to DT.

[Lionheart1827]

i really want that 6DOIT bootleg....jesus that's a pretty close-to-perfect setlist right there. if only they had blind faith...*creams*

one of the first things i'm gonna do when i head offf to college is get myself that CD/DVD "score." mMmMmM....

Blind Faith is amazing. Its one of my favorite DT songs and its my favorite song on the 6DOIT album.

The unison with JP and JR in the final solo section is probiably one of the most insane things ive ever heard.:thumb:

[Element of LED 435]

Hell yes, I'm so pumped for the DVD. It's gonna be the longest 2 months EVER.

This year is gonna be awesome. Porcupine Tree's DVD and Children of Bodom's DVD too!
not to forget RUSH replay x3 dvd
I can not wait to get my hands on that

[eug008]

5/19/2006
6/2/2006
6/3/2006

Thanks.

Sent, If anyone wants the WT boot post your email and i'll forward you the issue

[eug008]

Anybody notice this?

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_dreamtheater.php#score

Sorry if its been posted. I dont feel like checking the previous posts.

August 29th baby.

HOLLLY ****

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

:D :D :D :D

Huge fan

[bwnstl]

Sent, If anyone wants the WT boot post your email and i'll forward you the issue

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

Thanks!

[Surtr]

Thanks to whoever re-sent those Daily Uploads with DT in them :)

[eug008]

No Problem

[eug008]

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

Thanks!

Sent

[Atica]

Thanks to the one who sent Once in a Livetime. From that CD I only had Ytse Jam and MP drum solo.

[Captain Quentin]

man that dvd looks good, did anyone go to any of the shows that is on the dvd?

[Atica]

man that dvd looks good, did anyone go to any of the shows that is on the dvd?
Yeah, I must buy that DVD. I haven't been in any DT concert, they will never come to my country:upset: Just hope that when I travell to Europe or US, they will play so I can go.

[ghettoeddo]

hey eug008, could i get that WT bootleg too?
thanks much~

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

[ghettoeddo]

Blind Faith is amazing. Its one of my favorite DT songs and its my favorite song on the 6DOIT album.

The unison with JP and JR in the final solo section is probiably one of the most insane things ive ever heard.:thumb:

oohhh yea.
and then they play the final run up and the last 5 notes are echoed-delayed and oh my god i cream everytime at that moment.

one word to describe blind faith: transcendent.

[Happy]

man that dvd looks good, did anyone go to any of the shows that is on the dvd?
Genuine Imitation went.
He hasn't been around so much lately due to sats and stuff.

[Lionheart1827]

oohhh yea.
and then they play the final run up and the last 5 notes are echoed-delayed and oh my god i cream everytime at that moment.

one word to describe blind faith: transcendent.

Yeah exactly.

I think we had this very same conversation 100s of pages back.:thumb:

[Rainmaker]

could i get the boots as well please, that'd be amazing!!!
power_metal_dave@hotmail.co.uk those are _'s in my addy, just cant see them....

cheers

[ghettoeddo]

dont want eug008 to miss it, so again....
ghettoeddo@gmail.com
i will kil for this bootleg.

i wasnt in this thread 100s of pages back :]

[Roo_bass]

:O That dvd looks awesome.

[Lord Abortion]

Can anyone tell me what Tool songs they play in the middle of Lie on that bootleg?

[Element of LED 435]

uw uw!! bootlegs!!!

imaskaterwhotrips@yahoo.com

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Can anyone tell me what Tool songs they play in the middle of Lie on that bootleg?

joe_hahn_junior @hotmail.com will be your one stop route to finding out :)

DT doing Tool is too good to miss

[Lord Abortion]

joe_hahn_junior @hotmail.com will be your one stop route to finding out :)

DT doing Tool is too good to miss
Should be with you momentarily.

[temporary]

Give me your email and I'll send it out, I already have it uploaded.

Thanks a ton, here you go: Aboodaboodabi@gmail.com

[ghettoeddo]

ollie, me too

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

this is the world tourbulence bootleg yes?

[Chu]

Can anyone tell me what Tool songs they play in the middle of Lie on that bootleg?
:o
DT doing Tool is too good to miss
QFT!

Please send to me.. :D

mathew.ball at gmail.com

Lie is sex, Lie with a Tool song thrown in is like.. a threesome :naughty:

[eug008]

Sent the daily upload issue to all of you

Wow when i was in Allans at the city they were playin "Awake", first time i've heard dream theater being played in a store

/500th

[ghettoeddo]

eug008, you are synonymous with God right now.
thank you :]

wow there's some other good music on here :]
opeth...dragonforce, priest...

[Chu]

Mmm.. Too much for my limited download.

If someone could just send me the aforementioned version of Lie? :)

[ghettoeddo]

what's your e-mail?

[Chu]

mathew.ball AT gmail.com thank you VERY much :D

[ghettoeddo]

one T?
ill try it :]

[Inkstar]

Yo chuck us down for that boot too:

matt.rar@gmail.com

[ghettoeddo]

done inkstar. and you too chu. if it's one T, you're set.

[eug008]

Could you please send me the different version of lie

egg_knight@hotmail.com

thanks

[Rainmaker]

sorry to be a pain, but was the 6DOIT boot sent to me, i didn't get it, if i could get that sent to me that would be amazing!!!!!! cheers

email: power underscore metal underscore dave @ hotmail.co.uk (power_metal_dave@hotmail.co.uk)

[Chu]

one T?
ill try it :]
Nice observation :)

My name is spelt with two T's usually.

When I was invited for the gmail account, the guy who sent the invite to me only spelt my name with one T, I don't really care how it's spelt, it still says the same thing, but yeah :)

Edit: 7:40 remaining... So excited tbh :D

Thank you so much ghettoeddo, words cannot express my gratitude at the moment.

[ghettoeddo]

i got you eug008 and rainmaker

[eug008]

sorry to be a pain, but was the 6DOIT boot sent to me, i didn't get it, if i could get that sent to me that would be amazing!!!!!! cheers

email: power underscore metal underscore dave @ hotmail.co.uk (power_metal_dave@hotmail.co.uk)

Pretty sure i fowarded it to ya, oh well i just sent it again (check your junk mail)

[eug008]

i got you eug008 and rainmaker

Haven't got it yet

[Rainmaker]

i got it this time, woo hoo, cheers!!!!! much appreciated, i owe ya one!!!! :chug:

[Inkstar]

Thanks Ghetto!

[FuzzyDuck]

Hey, if it's not too much trouble, could you please send me the world tourbulence bootleg with the tool covers. I'd really, really appreciate it man, I love those two bands, and that setlist is amazing.
My email is:
clowndude@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot!

[Lord Abortion]

Wow, that's alot of chorusing:p

[eug008]

Hey, if it's not too much trouble, could you please send me the world tourbulence bootleg with the tool covers. I'd really, really appreciate it man, I love those two bands, and that setlist is amazing.
My email is:
clowndude@hotmail.com
Thanks a lot!

Sent

[ghettoeddo]

eug008, your e-mail isn't workgin.
egg.knight@gmail.com right?
or hotmail. either way...somethign wasn't right.
what's your addy again?

[Chu]

I love John Petrucci :D

If you're bored, watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evTTHS9hwvU), and if you're really bored look for the first part of that series. It's pretty funny I think :D

*Not mine, but still...

[Atica]

jajajaja that was very funny man!!! :amaze:

[eug008]

eug008, your e-mail isn't workgin.
egg.knight@gmail.com right?
or hotmail. either way...somethign wasn't right.
what's your addy again?

it's

egg_knight@hotmail.com