Dream Theater

[Inkstar]

I think I'm the only person who doesn't like Octavarium (the album).

I really hope that they can turn to their old, classic stuff, because that's what I and most people like.

[Enlighten Me]

I think I'm the only person who doesn't like Octavarium (the album).

I really hope that they can turn to their old, classic stuff, because that's what I and most people like.

I dunno, I like Octavarium.
I think it's great.

Voices tends to drag on and on.. it has it's ups but in a whole. bleh

[Chu]

I love the first solo in Another Day, his tone.. :naughty:

[ghettoeddo]

I love the first solo in Another Day, his tone.. :naughty:

i personally love his ernie ball tone much more than his ibanez tone.
but yea...great solo. playable as well, which is rare in DT repertoire :upset:

[Happy]

The whole song would be playable if it wasn't for that 1 bar of shreds :angry:

[Enlighten Me]

The whole song would be playable if it wasn't for that 1 bar of shreds :angry:
lol, yeah wtf :mad:

[Happy]

It's Petrucci doing it to mock us.

I can play Silent Man though.

[Enlighten Me]

It's Petrucci doing it to mock us.

I can play Silent Man though.

Yeah me too, its pretty fun to play with an acoustic.

[Lord Abortion]

I like Octavarium for the most part.
Panic attack and never enough drag on a little though.

[Happy]

Panic Attack's my favourite song on the album. I love it.

[Enlighten Me]

At first listen Panic Attack and Never Enough weren't really that great.
But they grew on me, oh how they grew.

[jpshortstuff]

yeah Panic Attack is my fav song on that album, because im usually much more into the heavy stuff. The rest is gradually growing on me though, like most DT is/did.

[Happy]

It was my favourite right from the start. When the guitars and drums first kicked in I was like :eek:

[Triangle]

I thought I was on a roll when I started to learn the solo from Another Day.... until I got to the one bar shred part. :upset:

[Happy]

Exactly what happened to me :(

[Josh]

i still haven't heard Octavarium. Ollie, fancy bringing it in? or you want to do it after i send you those albums?

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, no worries, I'll give ye it on the morro.

[Josh]

nice, thanks a lot. :)

/happy.

[Element of LED 435]

is dream theater going to play at Gigantour2???
is the end of the 20th anniversary tour the end of dream theater touring and making new albums??
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO JOHN RUDDESS!! lol but seriously does anyone know the first two?

[mutant!]

So, yeah, Sad But True hooked me up with Scenes From A Memory. It's the first time I've heard Dream Theater, and I've got to say, for all the hype surrounding Petrucci and whoever the keys player is, they disappointed me greatly. IMO they suck. Petrucci is quite obviously a brilliant guitarist, but I can't hear where the keyboard player's reputation comes from. :confused: And I hate the whole cheese-metal sound they have going. And I detest the singer's voice. And that one tune - Home - with what sounds like a chick getting her brains humped out in the background was just off-putting. I actually only just heard the first (remotely) good keyboard part on this entire album (I'm listening as I type), in The Dance Of Eternity, at about 3:45.

Anyway. Am I missing something? Is this just a sh1t album, or was I just not meant to appreciate their music?

[Deth]

Yeah, just give up with Dream Theater. That's possibly their finest album and I love it beyond belief.

To Elements of LED, I really have no idea about Gigantour. It's Megadeth's tour, but I would think they will play it this year. Here's hoping.

I'm sure they will continue to release new albums as well.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, Mutant, just give up on DT now then, and possibly life too.

[GenuineImitation]

is dream theater going to play at Gigantour2???

No. They are taking time off.


is the end of the 20th anniversary tour the end of dream theater touring and making new albums??

No, they are taking time off to write new material and spend time with their families.


So, yeah, Sad But True hooked me up with Scenes From A Memory. It's the first time I've heard Dream Theater, and I've got to say, for all the hype surrounding Petrucci and whoever the keys player is, they disappointed me greatly. IMO they suck. Petrucci is quite obviously a brilliant guitarist, but I can't hear where the keyboard player's reputation comes from. :confused: And I hate the whole cheese-metal sound they have going. And I detest the singer's voice. And that one tune - Home - with what sounds like a chick getting her brains humped out in the background was just off-putting. I actually only just heard the first (remotely) good keyboard part on this entire album (I'm listening as I type), in The Dance Of Eternity, at about 3:45.

Anyway. Am I missing something? Is this just a sh1t album, or was I just not meant to appreciate their music?

The album is one of their best, so I can safely say you wont enjoy most DT. You may like Train of Thought or Octavarium though.

[temporary]

It's Petrucci doing it to mock us.

I can play Silent Man though.

Yeah, Silent Man is great fun to play/sing along to (even though my voice is beyond horrible. Seriously, I couldn't hit a note for my life.)

[Element of LED 435]

im afraid when dream theater gets older cuz then they might stop making some of the only good music that is made today, then ill be stuck listening to oldies becuz basically dream theater is the only current band around that i listen to besides godsmack

NP: Strange Deja Vu

[ghettoeddo]

that cool riff in the middle of strange deja vu is amazing. i think petrucci used a fender for that :O

they'll make new albums for sure. portnoy wants to finish his 12-step deal. and as much as i love octavarium...i think they could end much stronger. i personally wanna see them take their music into a NEW direction, rather than regressive into the old I&W/awake days. it's been done, and the whole idae of prog rock/metal is to push new boundaries and try new things...

so that's what im hoping for. i know whatever they do, i'll be pleased.

[badtaste]

im afraid when dream theater gets older cuz then they might stop making some of the only good music that is made today, then ill be stuck listening to oldies becuz basically dream theater is the only current band around that i listen to besides godsmack

NP: Strange Deja Vu

Dream Theater stopped making good music after Scenes from a memory. I haven't listened to any Dream Theater music in a few months. I guess I've grown out of them.

[Enlighten Me]

You don't understand, you cannot grow out of them.
Dream Theater owns you.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I really can't possibly see how anyone could dislike James' vocals either

[ghettoeddo]

at some times, james's vox are less than ace.
but he's definitely great :]

NP: blind faith = current fave song off of SDOIT

[Happy]

Dream Theater stopped making good music after Scenes from a memory. I haven't listened to any Dream Theater music in a few months. I guess I've grown out of them.
To me, everything they do rules.
I'm a DT whore.

[GenuineImitation]

DT can not make any mistakes. They are gods among mortals.

[Enlighten Me]

Seriously, i haven't heard a DT song i disliked.

[GenuineImitation]

Seriously, i haven't heard a DT song i disliked.


Same here. My least favorite is 6:00, but it is still a great song.

[Happy]

Same here. I say I don't like say Burning My Soul but to be honest I don't dislike it like I do something by the Arctic Monkeys

[Lord Abortion]

Possibly you not me, or something off WDADU...otherwise no.
DT are Godly.

[Atica]

DT are the God of music. They are just so perfect at their songs.

[Element of LED 435]

only song i dont like anymore is as i am
i used to love it but i guess after listening to it alot i only really like the intro but the rest to me is a little cheesy

[Enlighten Me]

Well yeah try not to overdo it.
Kinda hard though, like when you first get an album and you can barley put it down for the next 2 weeks :p

[Happy]

How is the intro cheesy? :confused:

[Lord Abortion]

I think James should lay off the Hetfield impression in that song...

[Element of LED 435]

How is the intro cheesy? :confused:
no i said i like the intro only like when portnoy starts the drums and it gets faster

the rest of the song besides that sounds cheesy to me at least

[badtaste]

I take my post back. They stopped making good music after 6DOIT (The Glass Prison kicks ***).

Listen to yourselves, people! Dream Theater do make crappy songs. To say that all their work kicks ***, is being arrogant.

"I walk beside you" sucked. Octavarium could have been better (The bloody song isn't a whole song - it's a series of songs put together. Compare it to ACOS). They're not even progressing any more, all their songs are metally now.

[GenuineImitation]

I take my post back. They stopped making good music after 6DOIT (The Glass Prison kicks ***).

Listen to yourselves, people! Dream Theater do make crappy songs. To say that all their work kicks ***, is being arrogant.

"I walk beside you" sucked. Octavarium could have been better (The bloody song isn't a whole song - it's a series of songs put together. Compare it to ACOS). They're not even progressing any more, all their songs are metally now.


Its all opinion. I personally like "I walk beside you" and "Octavarium."

[ghettoeddo]

i walk beside you is great. it grows on you. used to hate it as well.

and if octavarium is a string of songs....so is ACOS. on a broader scale, octavarium ties togehter the whole ALBUM instead of within the frame of the song like ACOS does.

only DT song i detest: lines in the sand. everything else is fair game :]
they're the ONLY band in my entire music-listening career so far that i have been unable to switch out a CD for weeks on end

[Captain Quentin]

yeah i love both those songs, and i think they still are made good music after 6DOIT it's just in a different direction, which IMO is a good thing.
you can't have a band sounding the same their whole career, they would get boring.

[Enlighten Me]

i walk beside you is great. it grows on you. used to hate it as well.

and if octavarium is a string of songs....so is ACOS. on a broader scale, octavarium ties togehter the whole ALBUM instead of within the frame of the song like ACOS does.

only DT song i detest: lines in the sand. everything else is fair game :]
they're the ONLY band in my entire music-listening career so far that i have been unable to switch out a CD for weeks on end

I absolutley LOVE Lines In The Sand!

[Lord Abortion]

I really like I walk beside you, too. It's very different...which is what prog is all about, surely? Going in new directions?

[Happy]

no i said i like the intro only like when portnoy starts the drums and it gets faster

the rest of the song besides that sounds cheesy to me at least
Oh right, sorry I misread.

The only song of ToT I think is slightly cheesy is Honor Thy Father.

[Lord Abortion]

Everyone vote Portnoy now or I'm going to slap you

[Happy]

I already have :smoke:

[Lord Abortion]

:smoke:

I wonder if we could get Portnoy to join us on the Stonerbus?

[Happy]

I didn't think any of the DT members ever did drugs.

[Enlighten Me]

They don't look like stoners.

[Happy]

Exactly. They all look like they've not touched anything.

[Lord Abortion]

Damnit.

I want some stoner conversation with Mikey.

[Happy]

We will get him don't worry.

[Inkstar]

If they turn to drugs, they lose my respect. But hey, sif they'll ever do that anyway. :P

Gunna give Octavarium another listen now in hope of 'getting into it'.

[Enlighten Me]

Maybe drugs will broaden their horizons :eek:

[Happy]

I don't think so.
I think they're all a bit too old to start now.

[Element of LED 435]

maybe theyll be like towelie and need some good ideas for a new album so they smoke some weed

but i doubt it as i think all of them are family men

[Happy]

I can't wait to hear a new album. Even though it's not even being recorded yet.

[Lord Abortion]

Or written, probably.

[Element of LED 435]

even if they start in 2 years they can write an album in 2 weeks

like they did with ToT and it doesnt take much longer to record

[Happy]

Yeah they are amazing.
I mean I was reading the LTE booklets and the albums were written in a week each :eek:

[Element of LED 435]

they must not bull**** around like other bands and are good song writers... pathetic how other bands take a year to write an album

[Happy]

A berklee education and a perfect knowledge of music theory does help.
Look at James hetfield. He's admitted to not knowing anything about music, or how to read music. That's why bands like Metallica take a while to write albums.

[Element of LED 435]

hmm.... makes me wanna learn theory

[Happy]

It's difficult to grasp at first, but once you're over that hurdle it's not too difficult.

[Element of LED 435]

any books you recommend?? i have john petrucci wild stringdom.... which is the closest theory book i have

[Lord Abortion]

A berklee education and a perfect knowledge of music theory does help.
Look at James hetfield. He's admitted to not knowing anything about music, or how to read music. That's why bands like Metallica take a while to write albums.
That's probably why James Hetfield sucks, too.

[the2stranger]

Wiser words were never spoken :cool:

[Happy]

any books you recommend?? i have john petrucci wild stringdom.... which is the closest theory book i have
I used http://www.musictheory.net

And JH does suck, but when Kirk started helping they got worse.

[Inkstar]

I've seen the video of 'the writing of TOT' and like, they finish writing just like that. Suddenly Mike just goes "that's it"..... "we've finished. We've finished writing. Hmmm."

Took them almost exactly 3 weeks or something.

[Element of LED 435]

anyone know a story behind the symbol for dream theater? such as who made it, why they chose that or any info?

[Happy]

Charlie Domonici (sp?) made it.
It was the Majesty symbol but when DT changed their name they kept it.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, it still fits...it's seems made of D M T...

[nowitzki]

anyone know a story behind the symbol for dream theater? such as who made it, why they chose that or any info?
It's based on a mark used by Mary Queen of Scots. They decided to use it because it had a M in it (for Majesty).
http://www.dtfaq.com/attachments/mary_queen_of_scots.gif

[Enlighten Me]

It's a cool mark.

[Happy]

It's based on a mark used by Mary Queen of Scots. They decided to use it because it had a M in it (for Majesty).
http://www.dtfaq.com/attachments/mary_queen_of_scots.gif
I wasn't too far off :p

[Chu]

:smoke:

I wonder if we could get Portnoy to join us on the Stonerbus?
Haha, I got that impression of him tbh..

[Shattered_Future]

I just realized how good Endless Sacrifice is...aside from the chorus riff. :p

[the2stranger]

Yhe whole song is sweet, actually the whole cd, probably my 2nd or 3th favorite DT cd.
But nothing can top Images & Words

[Shattered_Future]

I should probably listen to that...this guitarist in my theory class is bitching about me listening to it because I can't get past Pull Me Under. I CAN'T STAND IT!

[Happy]

Try Take the Time, that's my favourite.

[ThunderBass]

you CANT stand 'Pull Me Under'? although ill admit that I&W is probably the least favourite of their albums that i own... but it still rules nonetheless... but back on topic... 'Pull Me Under' is an awesome song... what faults do you find in it?

[the2stranger]

it might be the repetitiveness (sp?)
But I think it's an awesome song really.
Only the ending it's still so annoying, esp. when airdrumming to it, and all of the sudden it stops and I feel stupid :(

[nowitzki]

Metropolis Pt. 1, Learning to Live and Take the Time are all better songs than PMU from I&W.

[the2stranger]

^
True, but that doesn't mean PMU is bad in any way.
But the three songs you mentioned are the best of the album.
Under A Glass Moon gets an honourable mention too.

[Happy]

SF, I didn't like PMU much myself when I first heard it either. Now I love it.

[ThunderBass]

Dont get me wrong, i think the whole album is great... but yeah my top three (in no real order) 'Pull Me Under', 'Metropolis', 'Wait for Sleep'(yes, im strange)... but the sudden ending in 'Pull Me Under' has a meaning...

[the2stranger]

I know about the meaning of PMU, but still it's annoying.

It would be annoying to die all of the sudden, but to have a track stop all of the sudden is not cool as well :p

[Lord Abortion]

Surrounded and Learning to live are my favourites.

Wait for sleep is magnificent.

[ThunderBass]

Ill admit it caught me by surprise the first time... but yeah... you get used to it... just learn the intro to 'Another Day', that way you get to keep going after it ends... :)

[jpshortstuff]

Take The Time seriously owns all on I&W, especially after the 2nd(?) chorus when theres all that crazy instrumental stuff + when JLB is all like: 'Oooo'.

[Inkstar]

I think SFAM is still my favourite DT album.

[ThunderBass]

SFAM and ToT are pretty even imo... they are both equal first position... however i do not own all their albums... yet... :)

[Enlighten Me]

IMO I&W is probably their best to date. PMU is sick, that's the first DT song i ever heard.
The intro is just... oooohh I can't explain it, I love it.
There is not one mediocre song on that album they are all superb.

[Shattered_Future]

you CANT stand 'Pull Me Under'? although ill admit that I&W is probably the least favourite of their albums that i own... but it still rules nonetheless... but back on topic... 'Pull Me Under' is an awesome song... what faults do you find in it?

I dunno...I don't like the riffing in it much, the acoustic part in the beginning pisses me off to no avail, and the chorus is extremely irritating.

[Element of LED 435]

it might be the repetitiveness (sp?)
But I think it's an awesome song really.
Only the ending it's still so annoying, esp. when airdrumming to it, and all of the sudden it stops and I feel stupid :(
its one of the few DT songs that has a chorus along with another day.... just the two that came to me

[temporary]

its one of the few DT songs that has a chorus along with another day.... just the two that came to me

Endless Sacrifice, Home (its got a chorus melody, but the lyrics change), 6:00, Scarred, Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and tons of other DT songs actually have choruses...

I'm really digging Innocence Faded right now.

[GenuineImitation]

Im trying to learn Octavaium on the guitar. It really isnt a hard song to play, there is just soo much to remember.

[Element of LED 435]

Endless Sacrifice, Home (its got a chorus melody, but the lyrics change), 6:00, Scarred, Lifting Shadows off a Dream, and tons of other DT songs actually have choruses...

I'm really digging Innocence Faded right now.
well i mean alot of their songs dont either which i think is awesome because it wont get repetitive and plain which the chorus of pull me under(besides when they play it live) can get bland but i mean i just love DT no matter what they do

[Lord of Sword]

I thought the batteries had gone in my diskman walking home after buying I&W and hearing PMU. It's been one of my favourite DT songs since though, especially the 'watch the sparrow falling....' verse.

[Element of LED 435]

I thought the batteries had gone in my diskman walking home after buying I&W and hearing PMU. It's been one of my favourite DT songs since though, especially the 'watch the sparrow falling....' verse.
i love that part! :p

[pep]

Why does PMU end like that?

[Mother]

I think it was thier way of showing how death comes sudddenly or something like that. Atleast thats what I read on the forums a while back.

I couldnt even listen to PMU because of the way it ended , It just annoyed me so i got a wav editor and edited the mp3 to fade out. Now its happy listening.

[Enlighten Me]

lol, cool. But I don't mind how it ends.

[Inkstar]

Yeah I don't mind the ending at all.

[Happy]

Haha, that's a little bit obsessive.
I always thought it was a problem with my CD.

[Atica]

Yeah me too, I thought that the CD had a scratch.

[Atica]

Have anyone listened When Dream and Day United CD?

[Happy]

Yes, I love it.

[RideTheSpiral]

Day and Dream United?

[Atica]

So is it a good CD?

[Atica]

Cuz that's the only DT album that I haven't heard.

[RideTheSpiral]

Oh when day and dream unite. I thought you were talking about a bootleg or something. Its a good album if you aren't expecting it to sound like DT.

[Atica]

I don't know if this is to much to ask for, but can anyone of you pass me that albeum? I'll be very thankfull for that.

[RideTheSpiral]

I would but it's 3am and I have to be at work in a few hours. :upset:

[Atica]

OK, well thanks anyways RideThaSpiral, just in case that you can pass it to me later, my email is assabeth@gmail.com

[RideTheSpiral]

Alright I'm sending it.

[Atica]

Thanks a lot dude!!! And have a great day.

[Element of LED 435]

this sucks... i went to buy a dream theater album but all they had was WD&DR(dont wanna hear it), train of thought(alrede have), falling into infinity(sucky), and change of seasons(which to me is not a great album although the song is great so i ended up getting an iron maiden album, damn them for not having octavarium or scenes from a memory!!

[Atica]

I already have When Dream and Day United, thanks a lot dude!!! It's great. That really sucks Element of LED 435, just in case you want Octavarium, I can send it to you.

[Element of LED 435]

dude that'd be the sickest

can u send it to my email?
imaskaterwhotrips@yahoo.com

[Atica]

OK dude. I will send it in just a few minutes.

[Element of LED 435]

awesome man... thanks for it cuz ive been waiting to listen to this album, partly because places around me dont sell it or because im short on cash or because im too lazy so this'll help

[Atica]

I don't know if it will be sent, because i'm having some problems with it. Anyways I will send it to you tomorrow.

[Atica]

I bought it last year and is a great album.

[ghettoeddo]

nooooo the phoenix suns lost!

anyway, portnoy's talking w/ mikael akerfeldt and steven wilson abt a potential side project. me thinks this would be quite possibly teh best side proejct anyone has done besides LTE

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I like PMU, it's about Hamlet, if any of you didn't know that.

[RideTheSpiral]

LTE is pretty boring.

[Enlighten Me]

this sucks... i went to buy a dream theater album but all they had was WD&DR(dont wanna hear it), train of thought(alrede have), falling into infinity(sucky), and change of seasons(which to me is not a great album although the song is great so i ended up getting an iron maiden album, damn them for not having octavarium or scenes from a memory!!

Falling Into Infinity sucks??? are you joking?

I don't know why people hate this album so much, but I love it.
Have you even heard it?

[Lord Abortion]

FII is a great album.

[Happy]

but all they had was WD&DR(dont wanna hear it),
why not? :mad:

[PAJJ]

Meh he ended up getting a Maiden album, things worked out for the best.....wait
/runs out of DT thread

[Happy]

Maiden's acceptable I guess.

[Wish]

FII is a great album.That's the only studio album by them I don't have :(

I have to get it y'know, just to complete the collection. I need to get money.

Could you tell me the 'better' songs on it so I can give 'em a listen to please?

[Happy]

Hollow Years
Trial of Tears
Lines In The Sand
Hell's Kitchen.


They're my favourites.

[eug008]

Well I find most FII songs boring except for Peruvian Skies, Hollow Years and Hell's Kitchen.

[RideTheSpiral]

Trial of Tears is one of my favourite DT songs.

[Happy]

It really sucks that Myung doesn't write lyrics much. 'Tears was awesome.

[Lord Abortion]

Take away my pain, Anna Lee and New Millenium goes in there too.

[Happy]

I think we've covered the whole album, bar Burning My Soul and you Not Me.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah...I wouldn't say Hell's kitchen and lines in the sand, personally, but there you go, that's personal opinion and my preference of ballads.

[GenuineImitation]

Yeah...I wouldn't say Hell's kitchen and lines in the sand, personally, but there you go, that's personal opinion and my preference of ballads.


Line in the sand is a great song. I think I listened to it 20 times yesterday.

[ghettoeddo]

it's the only DT song i cant stand. lines in the sand that is.

however, i do think burning my soul and you not me are bearable. funny haha.
is it wrong if i think maiden is kinda boring compared to DT? i have their entire discography but none of em hook me as much as like...octavarium or I&W

[Wish]

Hollow Years
Trial of Tears
Lines In The Sand
Hell's Kitchen.


They're my favourites.Thanks.

Well, out of those four, iTunes only had Hollow Years so that's the only one I'm gonna get. I'll still buy the album. £7.97 on Amazon :cool:

I bought Metropolis, Pt. 1 as well from Once In a Livetime, just 'cause it's incredible.

[GenuineImitation]

it's the only DT song i cant stand. lines in the sand that is.

however, i do think burning my soul and you not me are bearable. funny haha.
is it wrong if i think maiden is kinda boring compared to DT? i have their entire discography but none of em hook me as much as like...octavarium or I&W


I like Burning My Soul and You Not Me are good songs also.


There is nothing wrong with thinking Maiden is boring compared to DT. I love Maiden, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Element of LED 435]

why not? :mad:
people keep saying it's not sounding like dream theater and if i wanna hear that one or FII I'm not gonna use my own money, I'll get it for christmas

[GenuineImitation]

people keep saying it's not sounding like dream theater and if i wanna hear that one or FII I'm not gonna use my own money, I'll get it for christmas


FII isnt as bad as people make it seem.

[TheLastJoECool]

My favorite DT song has to be The Glass Prision. I love progressive metal and Dream Theater is my favorite band. Glass Prision changes alot and that is a quality I like.

[RideTheSpiral]

I think The Glass Prison is definitly one of DT's worst songs.

[GenuineImitation]

I think The Glass Prison is definitly one of DT's worst songs.


I agree. Its good, but they have much better songs.

[xcvbnm]

i think as of right now FII is my favorite DT album, of course that changes from month to month depending on what i have been listening to recently, but the whole album is awsome, you not me kind of sucks but it does have that totally badass guitar interlude, besides that the album is awsome, trial of tears, lines in the sand and hells kitchen are three of the best soings they have ever written IMO

[Atica]

My favorite DT's song is Stream of Consciusness, and I also like the version of Hollow Years in the Tokyo DVD.
Element of LED 435: I already sent you the CD of Octavarium, I had a lot of problems, many storms right now in my country so the connection was terrible. Hope you like it.

[Chu]

I love Lie, probably my favourite song at the moment.

[ghettoeddo]

lie is amazing. the transition from mirror into lie is fantastic too

[Lionheart1827]

I love Lie, probably my favourite song at the moment.

The solo is one of my favorite guitar solos of all time. He never plays it the same live though. :( (I'm saying the part at the very end of the solo when he does that really crazy slide that goes "weeeeeEEEEEEEEEE")

[Inkstar]

Stream Of Conciousness is amazing. Definitely one of my favourite DT instrumentals. I love it to death!

Also, I quite like the Glass Prison. Never really had a problem with it.

EDIT: Scratch that. I'd say SOC is one of my favourite DT songs ever!

[Happy]

SOC is amazing. One day I'll be able to play that guitar solo.

[Lord Abortion]

Lie is awesome, it's one of JP's best riffs.

[GenuineImitation]

SOC is amazing. One day I'll be able to play that guitar solo.


So will I...

: prays to the gods of guitar to have petruccis' power:

[Happy]

Not if I pray faster...
I wonder if I can even play it at half speed.

[Inkstar]

The hardcore string-skipping part is just INSANE. =\

[Happy]

I think the sweeps are more impressive. I showed my friend the LATB version of it and he was like ":eek: No way!" I had to rewind it for him :lol:

[Petrucci]

Yup. Amazing solo.

[ThunderBass]

yeah... LATB was one of the best buys ive ever made...

[GenuineImitation]

I was just listening to Pagans Mind and the guitar work in one of their songs sounds very similar to Strange Deja Vu. If you are interested in hearing it, leave your emails.

[Happy]

I'd like to hear it.
jevgenji_hershplinikov@ hotmail.co.uk

[ghettoeddo]

psh SOC solo...bah. i love petrucci and i dun like it much.

improvised solo on beyond this life (budokan version) anyone?

the guitarrist from korn delayed my ordering of my ernie ball 7-stringer!!! and i've been waiting 3 months!

[Lemuria]

me too peper_6@hotmail.com thanks

[Happy]

psh SOC solo...bah. i love petrucci and i dun like it much.

improvised solo on beyond this life (budokan version) anyone?

the guitarrist from korn delayed my ordering of my ernie ball 7-stringer!!! and i've been waiting 3 months!
That improv got very tedious for me. I was wanting them to hurry it up.

How did the guitarist from korn manage to do that?

[GenuineImitation]

That improv got very tedious for me. I was wanting them to hurry it up.

How did the guitarist from korn manage to do that?


It was probably his model and wanted to delay it for some unknown reason.

[Lemuria]

hey im been listening lately to Dream Theater and a I real like them, but the problems is that i just have one album Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence and i want to hear more of their work can someone can do me the favor of sending anything of them to my e-mail : peper_6@hotmail.com thanks!

[Happy]

It was probably his model and wanted to delay it for some unknown reason
The wanker.
I tried JP's 7 string at the London Guitar Show. Very nice indeed, wouldn't mind having one myself.

And then I stole about 50 JP posters.

[GenuineImitation]

I sent the song. Tell me if you think they ripped off Strange Deja Vu.

[ghettoeddo]

The wanker.
I tried JP's 7 string at the London Guitar Show. Very nice indeed, wouldn't mind having one myself.

And then I stole about 50 JP posters.

I WANT A POSTER!!!!111

anyway, i've been calling the store for several months.
and the day comes to FINALLY actually place the order.

turns out it got delayed because the korn guy demoed some baritones (idk what brand, maybe ernie ball?) and loved em so much. he's gonna use em on the next recording/tour leg. and he got 10 of em. soooooo since he's a much high-profile user than a humble phoenix boy...his order gets first priority. barring the fact i called almost every 3 days for 3 months.

this is all what the sales dude said. unless he's ****in me.

[Lemuria]

your are right is very similar as you said in the vocals

[Happy]

I WANT A POSTER!!!!111

anyway, i've been calling the store for several months.
and the day comes to FINALLY actually place the order.

turns out it got delayed because the korn guy demoed some baritones (idk what brand, maybe ernie ball?) and loved em so much. he's gonna use em on the next recording/tour leg. and he got 10 of em. soooooo since he's a much high-profile user than a humble phoenix boy...his order gets first priority. barring the fact i called almost every 3 days for 3 months.

this is all what the sales dude said. unless he's ****in me.
You can have a poster if you don't mind it folded and are willing to pay the postage costs :p (and some more)

That sucks peenor. I think you should've taken priority seeing as you had it ordered...


GI, I didn't get the song.

[GenuineImitation]

You can have a poster if you don't mind it folded and are willing to pay the postage costs :p (and some more)

That sucks peenor. I think you should've taken priority seeing as you had it ordered...


GI, I didn't get the song.


I'll try emailing it to you again.

[Atica]

I was just listening to Pagans Mind and the guitar work in one of their songs sounds very similar to Strange Deja Vu. If you are interested in hearing it, leave your emails.
Were's that band from?

[Nepenthe]

Were's that band from?

Norway.

[GenuineImitation]

Were's that band from?


Im not sure which country, but I can safely bet they are from Europe.


EDIT: Beaten

[Atica]

So they are from some part of the old world. I just listened to the song and the intro is the same and the rest of the song has some similar parts.

[Atica]

hey im been listening lately to Dream Theater and a I real like them, but the problems is that i just have one album Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence and i want to hear more of their work can someone can do me the favor of sending anything of them to my e-mail : peper_6@hotmail.com thanks!
I can send you some albums.

[Lemuria]

thanks dude!:p

[Lemuria]

hey what do you think of the song Misunderstood?

[Inkstar]

Hey Geunine can you chuck me that song too please?

matt.rar@gmail.com

Thanks dude.

[GenuineImitation]

Hey Geunine can you chuck me that song too please?

matt.rar@gmail.com

Thanks dude.


It has been sent.



Miunderstood is a good song. Not a personal favorite, but a good song none the less.

[Atica]

hey what do you think of the song Misunderstood?
I like the song but it is not on the list of my favorite DT's songs.

[Lord Abortion]

Misunderstood is my favourite Track off the first 6DOIT disk, and one of my personal favourite DT songs.

Me with the ballads again:p

[GenuineImitation]

I think we can all agree that the second disk of 6DoIT owns the first disk.

[Prince of Darkness]

I don't see why everyone likes 6DOIT so much. It's not that good.

[Lord Abortion]

Oh yeah GI, it's much better.

[Happy]

My favourite track on 6 degrees would be Disappear. I love it so much.

[GenuineImitation]

I don't see why everyone likes 6DOIT so much. It's not that good.


Its not their best. Im just comparing the first and second disk.

[Hollywood Rose]

I've been into the song "Octavarium" a lot lately.

[Happy]

It's a brilliant song but the intro is far too long.

[Lemuria]

hey what is the best album of Dream Theater?

[Lionheart1827]

hey what is the best album of Dream Theater?

The general consensus among fans is Awake, Images and Words, or Scenes From A Memory.

My order is:

1)Images and Words
2)SFAM
3)Awake:thumb:

[Lemuria]

thanks^^^^^

[heavy metal kid]

hey what is the best album of Dream Theater?

Metropolis pt II: Scenes from a Memory.

I was messing around on the internet and i found a list of songs covered by Dream Theater, i was shocked when i found Would? by AIC. Does anybody have any info about that cover?

[Atica]

hey what is the best album of Dream Theater?
For me they are Images and Words, Awake and Train of Though.

[Inkstar]

My order is:

1. SFAM
2. Awake
3. Images & Words

I've really been digging ToT lately. It's strange... I'm a fan of DT's early stuff. That's when I think they were at their best (part from SFAM - that album is effing brilliant), and although ToT is their heaviest album, there's just something about it that I love. I think when you really delve deep into the music and give it hundreds of listens you find the prog elements are still there. They're not Awake or I&W prog-standard, but they're still awesome.

Having said that, I hope DT's next album makes a return to their early 90's era, otherwise we may never hear that special, unique music again. :(

[ghettoeddo]

^ i want them to take their music where it hasn't been yet.
that's what progressive is all about right?
going back to the early 90's era (I&W and awake) would be in essence...regressive.

fave album right now is 8vm. mainly the title track. it fills me with so many emotions when i just turn it up real loud and listen to it straight through.

[Inkstar]

Yeah you're absolutely right ghetto, but I'm saying that I feel like they're turning FROM progressive all together. With their earlier music, you could tell straight away it was a very technical/prog song, however with their latest music, at first it seems like it's fairly straight, you know? Like just another rock or metal group, despite the prog element still being there.

You follow?

[ghettoeddo]

yea i gotcha.

in that case, then yes. i want them to retain prog elements, while trying something new.

[Lord Abortion]

I&W is still my favourite album.

[Kirk's Puppet]

My recent fave album is Train of Thought.

It was my least fave for a while, but now I love it.

[Happy]

^ i want them to take their music where it hasn't been yet.
that's what progressive is all about right?
going back to the early 90's era (I&W and awake) would be in essence...regressive.

Ah yes, but then it could be seen as progressive, making a full circle in their styles.
That means another power metal-ish album first :D

[Inkstar]

Hahaha DT doing power-prog. Dude, I can totally see that. James can do soaring high vocals:

"HIIIIIIGH ABOVEEE THE MOOOOOUUUUUNNNNNNNTAAAAIIINNNS THE FLAME OF THE DRAAAAAGGGOOOONNN SOOOOARRRSSSSS!!"

[Happy]

I would cream. It'd be like a dream come true.

[Lord Abortion]

Hahaha DT doing power-prog. Dude, I can totally see that. James can do soaring high vocals:

"HIIIIIIGH ABOVEEE THE MOOOOOUUUUUNNNNNNNTAAAAIIINNNS THE FLAME OF THE DRAAAAAGGGOOOONNN SOOOOARRRSSSSS!!"
Twould be great indeed.

[Clunge]

Hmm, I really can't get into DT's earlier stuff.

I've been listening to Images And Words and Awake lots and neither of them do much for me.

I much prefer the newer, heavier DT, from SFAM onwards.

[ThunderBass]

i love it all... :D of all the albums i have there isnt one that i havnt thoroughly enjoyed...

[Enlighten Me]

The older albums are better IMO.
I really can't dig ToT that much, it has good songs but some tend to go on way longer than they should. I kinda lose intrest in some of them.

[Clunge]

Ya'see...

I really dig ToT and 8V - I love the heaviness and the synths with it, it just appeals to me a lot more.

[Enlighten Me]

I dig 8v more than ToT that's for sure.

[Happy]

Same here. 8v has a wider range of stuff. ToT's just heavy all the way through, minus Vacant of course.

[TheRaspberryJams]

Dream Theater are awesome.

[temporary]

Same here. 8v has a wider range of stuff. ToT's just heavy all the way through, minus Vacant of course.

Yeah, 8vm has really grown on me since I first got it.

[GenuineImitation]

My all time favorite is Scenes from a Memory, but I love them all. My current favorite is Octavarium or Images and Words.

[ghettoeddo]

Hahaha DT doing power-prog. Dude, I can totally see that. James can do soaring high vocals:

"HIIIIIIGH ABOVEEE THE MOOOOOUUUUUNNNNNNNTAAAAIIINNNS THE FLAME OF THE DRAAAAAGGGOOOONNN SOOOOARRRSSSSS!!"


oh please no pleasepleaseplease

[Inkstar]

I really can't dig ToT that much, it has good songs but some tend to go on way longer than they should. I kinda lose intrest in some of them.

Yeah I agree. Both HTF and ITNOG go for too long, especially the latter. Endless Sacrifice is a pretty good balance, I think, and SoC is perfect.
As I Am is a pretty good length, but TDS is a tad long as well.

[ghettoeddo]

this dying soul and honor thy father are my least favorites on that album.

i actually think as i am is brilliant, because it shows dream theater is somewhat capable fo writing a standard metal song, instead of dragging it on and on and on. although i guess 7 minutes is quite lengthy. but every second rocks.

[ThunderBass]

I dont know about In the Name of God but i agree that Honor Thy Father goes for a tad too long... probably the one blemish on awesome album...

[badtaste]

this dying soul and honor thy father are my least favorites on that album.

i actually think as i am is brilliant, because it shows dream theater is somewhat capable fo writing a standard metal song, instead of dragging it on and on and on. although i guess 7 minutes is quite lengthy. but every second rocks.

Standard as in they play they follow the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solos-chorus structure?

[Inkstar]

Standard as in they play they follow the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solos-chorus structure?

Yep. Very straight forward song, but still has that 'edge' to it.

[Happy]

Standard as in they play they follow the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solos-chorus structure?
Intro - verse - chorus - verse - chorus - solos - chorus to be precise.

I'm probably wrong :upset:

[Clunge]

I love every second of ToT and 8V, bar about 40, that being the rap-ish bit in Honor Thy Father.

Two of my fave albums ever :cool: .

[Happy]

James' rapping leaves much to be desired, I think they shouldn't have put that in.

Or they could've at least had someone else do it.

[Element of LED 435]

the thing about sacrificed sons for me was at first wen i listened to it i only thot it was ok but then after 3 times of playback i realized how great it was..... does this happen to anyone who listens to dream theater? theres so much u dont catch on too the first couple times because the songs go many different directions and are so long

[Lionheart1827]

the thing about sacrificed sons for me was at first wen i listened to it i only thot it was ok but then after 3 times of playback i realized how great it was..... does this happen to anyone who listens to dream theater? theres so much u dont catch on too the first couple times because the songs go many different directions and are so long

Yeah a lot of people are like that.

It took me forever to get into Awake.:thumb:

[encmetalhead]

how about the 24 min song thats a tad to much dont u think?

[encmetalhead]

they had a 45 min song on that cd?
u sure
cause i got that cd and theres no 45 min song trust me

[Deth]

The 40 minute song is the second disc of 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence, but it was split up into 8 (I think) parts.

[Shadows Within]

they had a 45 min song on that cd?
u sure
cause i got that cd and theres no 45 min song trust me
yeah i thought there was but i checked my CD case and there wasn't so i deleted post.

[encmetalhead]

yeah i thought there was but i checked my CD case and there wasn't so i deleted post.

ok gotcha cause liek late last year i got really into them and bought like 4 of their cds lol i didnt but the 6 degrees one though lol

[ghettoeddo]

the entire second disk of six degrees is one song.
just broken up into sections.

every listen through a dream theater song reveals new intricacies you will have missed. even after almost a year of continuous listening, i'm still finding new things. it helps to turn down the bass sometimes to hear other lines here and there :] music souds different from your iPod, CD player, home system, car stereo

[Lionheart1827]

how about the 24 min song thats a tad to much dont u think?

No way man.

It's actually quite awesome.

A Change of Seasons pretty much defines Progmetal.

Octavarium is just plain awesome.:thumb:

[encmetalhead]

ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest

i could do it if i tried but thats very hard cause ppl think i'm like an a.d.d kid and i'm startign to see why.....is that bad?

[nowitzki]

I would much prefer to listen to one amazing 24 minute song, than several average length songs. Its not like these songs are just the same riffs being repeated over and over, they are.. well, progressive.

[Deth]

ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest

i could do it if i tried but thats very hard cause ppl think i'm like an a.d.d kid and i'm startign to see why.....is that bad?
*raise hand*

Many of my favorite songs are over 20 minutes. I'm listening to a 28 minute song right now.

[Atica]

I can sit for that time, with A Change of Seasons, Octavarium (just the intro gets me bored), The Odyssey-Symphony X, and The Divine Wings of Tragedy-Symphony X.

[heavy metal kid]

ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest


Well, depends on the song, many prog songs over 20 minutes are great because they have a lot of versatility.

I do listen long songs.

[GenuineImitation]

ok raise your hand if u can sit through one song for 24 min and not lose interest

i could do it if i tried but thats very hard cause ppl think i'm like an a.d.d kid and i'm startign to see why.....is that bad?



:raises hand: I do it on a regular basis.


Your typing makes me think you have a.d.d. :p

[silicon71]

Octavarium is one of my favorite songs. I can listen to it multiple times in a row without getting bored and its awesome. To be honest, I don't agree at all with people who say the intro is 'boring.' I think its an awesome intro, I dunno whether its the awesome pads or the echoy guitar, but it defiantely rocks.

[GenuineImitation]

Octavarium is a really great song.


I love how this thread has picked up. For awhile it was only a handful of regular posters in this thread.

[RideTheSpiral]

Octavarium is one of my favorite songs. I can listen to it multiple times in a row without getting bored and its awesome. To be honest, I don't agree at all with people who say the intro is 'boring.' I think its an awesome intro, I dunno whether its the awesome pads or the echoy guitar, but it defiantely rocks.


I think its Jordan playing a pedal steel guitar.