Dream Theater

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I got into them when Steve Harris of Maiden namechecked them as one of his influences.

[Happy]

Grr when does this DVD come out.
September. Not too long to wait.

[temporary]

I just got a Genesis album my friend converted for me...Trespass, it's called.

I gotta absorb it later...I haven't actually heard any Genesis, but I remember my dad listening to Peter Gabriel on long car rides. Rather messed up, but absolutely amazing.

I'm not sure what you'll think of Trespass. I'd definitly say that Foxtrot and Selling England By the Pound are better, so if you enjoy that then you'll love those.

I love that old school Genesis/Yes/ELP style Moog solo in Octavarium...

[Clunge]

Is there a confirmed tracklisting for the new DVD?

[jpshortstuff]

Is there a confirmed tracklisting for the new DVD?

New York City - Radio City Music Hall - 4/1/06
Set #1: (Band Only)
THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL
I WALK BESIDE YOU
ANOTHER WON
AFTERLIFE
UNDER A GLASS MOON
INNOCENCE FADED
RAISE THE KNIFE
THE SPIRIT CARRIES ON

Intermission

Set #2: (Band & Orchestra)
SIX DEGREES OF INNER TURBULENCE
VACANT
THE ANSWER LIES WITHIN
SACRIFICED SONS
OCTAVARIUM

Encore: (Band & Orchestra)
METROPOLIS

I think thats what it is, plus some behind the scenes footage and extras probably.

[Happy]

I don't mind it.
It'll be interesting to see them with the orchestra.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, the whole of 6DOIT will be awesome, but they should have done LTL in the encore aswell.

[Happy]

It's pretty lame that they didn't do Vacant>SOC.

[Lord Abortion]

It's pretty lame that they didn't do Vacant>ITNOG.
Fixed

[Happy]

Fixed
Why not do all three?

Just Vacant on it's own leaves a void.

[Lord Abortion]

But it does showcase James' beautiful vocals.

[Happy]

Indeed.
I wonder if they did it with the single cello (was it chello?) or with the whole orchestra.

[Clunge]

Wha!

No These Walls, Never Enough or Panic Attack?

:( - I am heartily disappointed.

[Rattlehead]

good point.Indeed.
I wonder if they did it with the single cello (was it chello?) or with the whole orchestra.
cello :p

[bwnstl]

Fixed

That doesn't make sense, because Vacant doesn't lead into ITNOG.

[Happy]

cello :p
Aww I knew it.

I just got confused.

[Lord Abortion]

That doesn't make sense, because Vacant doesn't lead into ITNOG.
Does that really matter?
They could do it like Wait for sleep>Learning to live

[bwnstl]

Does that really matter?
They could do it like Wait for sleep>Learning to live

Eh, I'm just biased because I like SOC better. :p

[ghettoeddo]

im more of a fan of ITNOG myself :] that song has a nasty habit of getting stuck in your head all day.

damn, prom was tiring.

i think the DVD setlist is amazing. it made me happy to see DT saying "screw you guys we do what we want" and playing songs they normally wouldn't like their ballads.

[Rattlehead]

Aww I knew it.

I just got confused.
lol


ITNOG? SOC? i have neither:( what are they?

[Lord Abortion]

Train of Thought??

I really want the DSOTM bootleg...

[ghettoeddo]

Train of Thought??

I really want the DSOTM bootleg...

123

[temporary]

Train of Thought??

I really want the DSOTM bootleg...

Want me to upload? As long as YSI doesn't screw me over like when I tried to send the Maiden thread Maiden England....

[Lord Abortion]

Please
olliethegreat_6@hotmail.co.uk

[eug008]

Anyone got any Official Bootlegs besides DSOTM and Majesty Demos?

[ghettoeddo]

hey temporary....add me too please :]

ghettoeddo@gmail.com
thanks a bunch

[bwnstl]

me too, bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

thank you :)

[Happy]

Any chance of having it sent to me too? :)

Jevgenji_hershplinikov@hotmail.co.uk

[Lord Abortion]

I have everything that isn't a bootleg they have released, I have the NOTB bootleg and that's it so far.

[Happy]

I'd really like to get the Majesty stuff.

[Element of LED 435]

did majesty ever come out with an album?

[ghettoeddo]

I have everything that isn't a bootleg they have released, I have the NOTB bootleg and that's it so far.

waht's NOTB?

[Six Foot Revolver]

waht's NOTB?
Number of the Beast.

Want me to upload? As long as YSI doesn't screw me over like when I tried to send the Maiden thread Maiden England....
Oh man. ukwildheart @ gmail.com

/Me <3s you long time

I have everything that isn't a bootleg they have released, I have the NOTB bootleg and that's it so far.
I might upload your their bootleg of MOP tomorrow.

[ghettoeddo]

oo i have NOTB haha. nevermind.

ummm hey six foot revolver, can i get the MOP bootleg in its entirety as well? i only have the title track.

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

[Kirk's Puppet]

Its a pretty crappy setlist.

With Innocence Faded, Raise the Knife, Another Won, the Octavarium songs and Six Degrees, it can't be bad.

[Chu]

I've been listenning to Octavarium again recently, sweet, never really realised the finish to Panic Attack before.. What is it?

For some reason, I really like I Walk Beside You (It's prolly my favourite song, for LaBrie, his singing is amazing (I'll finally say LaBrie BELONGS in Dream Theater), the final chorus, starting from the first word, is like.. :naughty: :eek: :p :smash: all in one)

[Happy]

Innocence Faded is one of the worst songs on Awake imo. Why not play Voices or Scarred. Raise the Knife is pretty bad and they already played most of 6D on Budokan...
I love James' singing in it. It gives me shivers.

[Prince of Darkness]

IMO, LaBrie's voice is the best on Awake. Listen to Caught in a Web, Lie and Voices. That's really amazing singing.

I noticed something on the Budokan dvd. Close to the end of the concert, LaBrie's voice turns really unbearable. On ITNOG, his voice his horrible.

[Lord Abortion]

I think he's just tired, wouldn't you be?

I like innocence faded, it's very good vocally,but what of James' isn't?

Sacrificed sons has become my favourite song on Octavarium recently.

[Petrucci]

I agree. LaBrie sucks live.

[Happy]

I agree. LaBrie sucks live.
WTF.
Have you not seen him on the recent tour. He's been amazing.

[Lord Abortion]

I agree. LaBrie sucks live.
What have you been smoking, boy?

[Prince of Darkness]

I agree. LaBrie sucks live.

OMGZZZ IT'S PETRUCCI!!!!

/asks for e-autograph

[Happy]

I touched Petrucci once.

the happiest day of my life.

[Prince of Darkness]

I touched Petrucci once.

the happiest day of my life.

That's something man. I touched myself right now.

Enough jokes! DT time...

What's everyone's opinion of Falling into Infinity? I've never listened to it, but I hate Derek Shiranian(Sp?).

[Happy]

It's alright. My least favourite DT but that doesn't mean it sucks.

Why the hate for Derek?

[Prince of Darkness]

It's alright. My least favourite DT but that doesn't mean it sucks.

Why the hate for Derek?

After I watched 5 years in a LIVEtime...I don't know. Compared to the others he's playing isn't really what I want in Dream Theater.

Kevin Moore was perfect for the early period.
Rudess is perfect for now and hopefully a while to come.

[Lord Abortion]

I really like alot of it, and love some of it, but hate some aswell.

It has brilliant tracks like Trial of tears, New Millenium, Anna Lee, Hollow years and Take away my pain.
Then it has alright tracks like Hell's kitchen, just let me breathe, and Peruvan skies
Then it has you not me:(

[Happy]

It's all about Youuuuu not meeeeeee.
I hate Just let me Breathe.

[Lord Abortion]

You not me is pretty gay, but It has a nice drum fill at the start.

[Happy]

Who is that guy they co-wrote it with?

[Lord Abortion]

Desmond child?

Not sure...

/googles

http://www.desmondchild.com/


*shrugs*

[PAJJ]

I think FTI is great, the DT fans i know usually mock me for liking it, i haven't listened to it for ages, but i shall do so now, all this talk has got me in the mood for some hollow years, i love that track.

[Prince of Darkness]

Who is that guy they co-wrote it with?

Ansley Harriet

(adds to gayness of the album)

[Duman]

I love FII, it's cool that it's different to the other albums imo, New Millenium and You Not Me are just awesome. I personally don't like Derek Sherinian's personality although he's pretty funny. He's a bit too camp for me.. His playing rocks though

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, the hair and earring thing looks pretty damn gay.

[Happy]

Desmond Child has been one of the most successful, versatile songwriters in the music business for more than two decades.
I can't even name one song by him :confused:

[Prince of Darkness]

Yeah, the hair and earring thing looks pretty damn gay.


His personality is just to gay for me. Rudess ftw yes yes?

[Happy]

I actually thought Rudess was gay.

[Lord Abortion]

Yes.

[Prince of Darkness]

Rudess smiles a lot while playing...a bit...distracting at times.

[Happy]

Yeah, at the concert I went to, he was smiling at no-one, just randomly into the crowd. :confused:

[Prince of Darkness]

Yeah, at the concert I went to, he was smiling at no-one, just randomly into the crowd. :confused:

:(

But at least you went to a DT show:thumb:



I'll never get that chance...

[Lord Abortion]

If he wore shades, he'd look like Halford.

NP-Anna Lee

[Happy]

haha it's true.

[Duman]

:(

But at least you went to a DT show:thumb:



I'll never get that chance...

Why not?

[PAJJ]

Lol would look like halford, but reminds me more of Ron Perlman

Rudess
http://www.jordanrudess.com/images/165_new_interview.jpg

Perlman
http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/33/57/38m.jpg

[Prince of Darkness]

Why not?

I live in South Africa. The only time I get to see a band is when we go overseas, which is every 2 years. :(

But I'm seeing Iron maiden in December at Earls Court! That should be a blast. and in 2004 I saw my first gig at Earls Court aswell(Muse). What are the odds?

[Duman]

I live in South Africa. The only time I get to see a band is when we go overseas, which is every 2 years. :(

But I'm seeing Iron maiden in December at Earls Court! That should be a blast. and in 2004 I saw my first gig at Earls Court aswell(Muse). What are the odds?

Ah that's a shame man :(

Well Iron Maiden sounds great, and i still haven't seen Muse :upset:

[Prince of Darkness]

Ah that's a shame man :(

Well Iron Maiden sounds great, and i still haven't seen Muse :upset:

Muse live is schweet:eek:

Well, Metallica had a mini tour here a few months ago that was cool.
But it won't happen again. Wish it would be I know it won't.

[Lord Abortion]

Iron Maiden is the best thing you could be seeing.

[Prince of Darkness]

Iron Maiden is the best thing you could be seeing.

:cool:

[temporary]

Just want to lent you guys know, I'm uploading The Dark Side of the Moon Bootleg through Megaupload right now. Yousendit has only given me problems.

[Lord Abortion]

Cheers man.

[RideTheSpiral]

Derek Sherinian is freakin awesome. You're all on crack. If you don't think he's as good as Jordan listen to Planet X. And he played on their best album ;).

[temporary]

Alright, for everyone who wants it, heres The Dark Side of the Moon cover:

http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=WMJ8ZGFE

[Element of LED 435]

shud i buy live scenes from new york CD or budokan CD, rite now im leaning toward new york becuz ive watched the budokan video b4 and not many of my favorite songs and plus with the LSFN i wont have to invest in buying metropolis pt. 2... wuts ur opinions tho

[temporary]

shud i buy live scenes from new york CD or budokan CD, rite now im leaning toward new york becuz ive watched the budokan video b4 and not many of my favorite songs and plus with the LSFN i wont have to invest in buying metropolis pt. 2... wuts ur opinions tho

Get Live Scenes. As a CD, I'd say its better than Budokan, 'casue Live Scenes has such a brilliant setlist.

[bwnstl]

shud i buy live scenes from new york CD or budokan CD, rite now im leaning toward new york becuz ive watched the budokan video b4 and not many of my favorite songs and plus with the LSFN i wont have to invest in buying metropolis pt. 2... wuts ur opinions tho

You should learn to type, too.

Temporary, what file format is this in?

[RideTheSpiral]

shud i buy live scenes from new york CD or budokan CD, rite now im leaning toward new york becuz ive watched the budokan video b4 and not many of my favorite songs and plus with the LSFN i wont have to invest in buying metropolis pt. 2... wuts ur opinions tho


Budokan is about a million times better that LSFNY. Wayyy more features and the video and sound quality is perfect compared to really bad with lame effects.

[Mother]

So yesterday night I Listened to "endless sacrifice" four times.

[Chu]

Live Scenes From New York is a good CD, I haven't seen the videos of it (Friend burnt me the 3 discs a while ago), but the CDs are awesome, the musicianship is A+. I think every song sounds so well done, with every song having subtle differences from their CD counterparts, definately adding to the songs imo (Even if the quality isn't Budokan-esque).

And then, A Change of Seasons Live, what a great song to close with aye.

[RideTheSpiral]

James' voice is awful in it. Can't really blame him after singing for 3 hours though.

[Petrucci]

alright i take it back. LaBrie is good, but sometime he does suck live!

[badtaste]

shud i buy live scenes from new york CD or budokan CD, rite now im leaning toward new york becuz ive watched the budokan video b4 and not many of my favorite songs and plus with the LSFN i wont have to invest in buying metropolis pt. 2... wuts ur opinions tho

LSFNY is a definite must buy. IMO, Budokan lacks the homely atmosphere felt in LSFNY. While Budokan is in a huge stadium with a large audience, LSFNY is set on a small stage creating a nice, cosy environment. Plus, the audience in LSFNY is way better than the one in Budokan. Think I'm crazy? Watch Learning to Live on LSFNY, and you WILL be clapping with them towards the end.

[Lord Abortion]

I really like James' voice on the live a change of seasons. He really gets strong, but wails towards the end, awesome:cool:

[Happy]

LSFNY is a definite must buy. IMO, Budokan lacks the homely atmosphere felt in LSFNY. While Budokan is in a huge stadium with a large audience, LSFNY is set on a small stage creating a nice, cosy environment. Plus, the audience in LSFNY is way better than the one in Budokan. Think I'm crazy? Watch Learning to Live on LSFNY, and you WILL be clapping with them towards the end.
Nah I can't say that happens to me.

Could be my lack of hands.

[Lord Abortion]

Close to crying during the spirit carries on?

Yeah I do that...

[Happy]

It is damn emotional.
I've never been close to tears watching the DVD. Maybe audio.

[temporary]

You should learn to type, too.

Temporary, what file format is this in?

Mp3.

[Lord Abortion]

.sitx?

I can't play that...

[temporary]

.sitx?

I can't play that...

Thats just the zip. Do you have Stufit? There might be problems, cause I use a Mac.

[Lord Abortion]

Thats just the zip. Do you have Stufit? There might be problems, cause I use a Mac.
No?

[ghettoeddo]

damn i was looking forward to it too...the DSOTM that is.

yea spirit carries on is emotional. especially live...idk. i'd be hard-pressed to find a song more powerful. im a huge fan of through her eyes as well :]

whoever can get an mp3 file of the DSOTM covers will be for a long time, synonymous with God.

[Deth]

The Spirit Carries On is one of the best songs I have ever heard. Brilliant beyond belief.

[MRDuCran]

Hey everyone, I have a powertab of Never Enough, and I'm completely, totally, seriously loving the guitar/keyboard Unison/harmony lead part that starts off with that Gminsus2 arpeggio. The problem is, I can't see how John played the last 2 beats of every 2nd bar like the way it's tabbed, and given the tempo is 128bpm, and he's playing 16th note triplets and the pattern would be hard to play accurately at even a slower tempo. I know it's JP an' everythin' but dang!

Is there any sort of official tab or anything, or has anyone got a tab with more accurate fingerings for this section, I'd love to learn it the right way. Thanks.

[ghettoeddo]

i have the official tab book...but it's actually worse than the powertab. the fingerings are near impossible at that speed.

i'd say the powertabs is actually your best bet :\ or muck through it and find your own fingerings.

taht's my favorite part of the song too...too bad it's the ONLY part i cant play :upset:

you know what you CAN do also...figure out the key for those runs in the last half of the bar...and omit troublesome notes. if you can keep it 1-2 notes per string and a steady pattern like that, it shiouldn't be too bad. the problem comes when there's like...3 notes, 2, 3, then 1 note on another adjacent string.

[Happy]

damn i was looking forward to it too...the DSOTM that is.

yea spirit carries on is emotional. especially live...idk. i'd be hard-pressed to find a song more powerful. im a huge fan of through her eyes as well :]

whoever can get an mp3 file of the DSOTM covers will be for a long time, synonymous with God.
Had they ever played Space Dye Vest live, I would've thought it would've been more powerful.

[bwnstl]

Had they ever played Space Dye Vest live, I would've thought it would've been more powerful.

Nope, out of respect to Kevin Moore. They've asked him to be a guest at a couple concerts now, but he's always declined.

[badtaste]

Nah I can't say that happens to me.

Could be my lack of hands.

Really? Try body percussion.

[Happy]

Nope, out of respect to Kevin Moore. They've asked him to be a guest at a couple concerts now, but he's always declined.
Yeah I knew that :p
I was saying it would be more powerful than TSCO if they did.

[Lord Abortion]

The Spirit Carries On is one of the best songs I have ever heard. Brilliant beyond belief.
Totally.

As far as SDV goes...I know it would be great, but I can't see Kevin ever doing it.

[Happy]

Maybe we can "persuade" him to do it :)

[Lord Abortion]

Chloroform, Check

Rag, check

Keyboard, Check

Pistol, check


Beautiful.

[temporary]

All you guys have to do to open the DSOTM cover is to download Stuffit. I hate having a Mac though, cause stuff like this always happens. If that doesn't work, drop me your AIMs and I'll send it to you that way.

[GenuineImitation]

My friend who I got into DT has an Aunt that went to school with Petrucci. I may be meeting Petrucci and/or the entire band.

R&Mer of the Year Part 2 is finally up. Go vote when you get a chance.

[ghettoeddo]

dude what the eff...you people that live in long island...BAH so jealous.

i would commit genocide to shake hands/meet petrucci in person.
...maybe.

temporary, my AIM is ghettoeddo14 but im rarely on. pop me a hello if i am though thanks

[GenuineImitation]

dude what the eff...you people that live in long island...BAH so jealous.

i would commit genocide to shake hands/meet petrucci in person.
...maybe.

temporary, my AIM is ghettoeddo14 but im rarely on. pop me a hello if i am though thanks


Yes, we are a lucky group of people.


NP: War inside my head

[MRDuCran]

i have the official tab book...but it's actually worse than the powertab. the fingerings are near impossible at that speed.

i'd say the powertabs is actually your best bet :\ or muck through it and find your own fingerings.

taht's my favorite part of the song too...too bad it's the ONLY part i cant play :upset:

you know what you CAN do also...figure out the key for those runs in the last half of the bar...and omit troublesome notes. if you can keep it 1-2 notes per string and a steady pattern like that, it shiouldn't be too bad. the problem comes when there's like...3 notes, 2, 3, then 1 note on another adjacent string.

I seriously doubt that book is official then, unless you know 100% that Petrucci sat there and transcribed it all for them to publish, otherwise it's probably just some random guys doing their best like any other tab book, which would explain the even worse fingerings.

I might have a go at re-arranging it, I think I tried before and gave up though...

[Chu]

All you guys have to do to open the DSOTM cover is to download Stuffit. I hate having a Mac though, cause stuff like this always happens. If that doesn't work, drop me your AIMs and I'll send it to you that way.
If everyone had a Mac, the world would be a better place.

*Slackware GNU/Linux - Gnome Desktop, not quite a Mac, but close enough :cool:

[ghettoeddo]

I seriously doubt that book is official then, unless you know 100% that Petrucci sat there and transcribed it all for them to publish, otherwise it's probably just some random guys doing their best like any other tab book, which would explain the even worse fingerings.

I might have a go at re-arranging it, I think I tried before and gave up though...

yea it's 2 guys who interpreted it their way. for the most part, it's hwo petrucci plays it though. but obviously, the solo sections are gonna have huge discrepancies.

sorry man~
if you get a better ararngement...let me know. cuz i really wanna learn it too

[Happy]

They could've watched Petrucci live and got the fingerings from that :-/
It would've been more accurate.

[Lord Abortion]

My friend who I got into DT has an Aunt that went to school with Petrucci. I may be meeting Petrucci and/or the entire band.

:(

Damn you again.

[Happy]

:(

Damn you again.
123.
Why can't I meet Petrucci?

[MRDuCran]

yea it's 2 guys who interpreted it their way. for the most part, it's hwo petrucci plays it though. but obviously, the solo sections are gonna have huge discrepancies.

sorry man~
if you get a better ararngement...let me know. cuz i really wanna learn it too
Would it be too much trouble to scan the page, or change the powertab to how it is in the book? Maybe if it is actually the way John plays, it might make some sense.


My music teacher at college has studied with Petrucci before. He's not a fan of his style of playing though so it's not the best thing in the world for him.

[GenuineImitation]

I found out I wont be meeting Petrucci, but he will be signing some of my stuff. Im going to send my Images&Words cd jacket and the Octavarium 2005/2006 world tour program.

[ghettoeddo]

that's good enough.

he plays it too fast live for anyone to remember exactly what he played unless you recorded it. but i doubt you can get a good quality recording of it anywhere...

MRDucran, i don't have a scanner...and im not good at powertabs. but ill see what i can do. i really think the powertabs version is better, it has much less string skipping and position shifting

the MPA isn't gonna like...take me out for copying the "official" tab book right?

[ghettoeddo]

nvm i edited it. it's spot on. some parts are smoother by keeping 3 note-patterns on one string, but it's also got more rougher string-skipping parts.

give me your e-mail and ill drop it to you

[MRDuCran]

kirkhammettlive@hotmail.com, thanks.

[ghettoeddo]

done.

you know kirk hammett has nothing on petrucci ;)

[Happy]

I think MrDucran knows that :p

[Lord of Sword]

I've got a bootleg from last Halloween where they play all of Octavarium. It's filmed from the audience and the quality isn't that great but you can see roughly where he's playing the unison, so unless it's more a problem of not knowing which strings he's playing instead of whereabout on the fretboard, I could upload that part of the video later.

[MRDuCran]

done.

you know kirk hammett has nothing on petrucci ;)

Haha yeah. I created that back when Metallica were my life, and I didn't have an emila at the time. Petrucci's chops are incredible. Thanks for the tab, I'll check it out and give it a shot!

I've got a bootleg from last Halloween where they play all of Octavarium. It's filmed from the audience and the quality isn't that great but you can see roughly where he's playing the unison, so unless it's more a problem of not knowing which strings he's playing instead of whereabout on the fretboard, I could upload that part of the video later.

That'd be cool, cheers.

I think MrDucran knows that :p

:)

[Lord Abortion]

/sings
I]"who would wish this on our peeeeopllleee"[/I]

[Happy]

Ollie fails at teh italics.

But brilliant lyrics.

[Lord of Sword]

Here's the Never Enough video, if anyone wants the whole bootleg (Rome 2005) you can get it from dimedozen.org, as long as you're registered at the site


hxxp://download.yousendit.com/F31E7C7C58A8C8C6

[ghettoeddo]

/sings
I]"who would wish this on our peeeeopllleee"[/I]

great song.

great ALBUM.

[Happy]

It's been so long since I listened to 8v. I need to borrow it off someone.

[GenuineImitation]

Im learning the heavier part of Sac. Sons now.

[ghettoeddo]

yea i learned that song too :]
the only trouble is the weird whammy bar part...but you can just make that up heh.

the heavy riff withj the pinch harmonics is SEXY i love playing it

[Rattlehead]

"all face our sacrificed sons..."
i love that song.

[Lord Abortion]

It's brilliant...I only realised a month or so ago how fantastic that song really is.


Given it's subject matter, I would have felt it meant alot to them to play it in New York.

[GenuineImitation]

It's brilliant...I only realised a month or so ago how fantastic that song really is.


Given it's subject matter, I would have felt it meant alot to them to play it in New York.


Yeah. My dad didn't like it at first because they had a clip of the twin towers burning and he was there that day (he worked about a block away). But then I told him what the song was about, he was fine.

I realized how great the song was about 2 or 3 months ago. I always liked it, but now I love it.

[Happy]

I got my dad into DT :D.
He sings along to Take the Time.

[GenuineImitation]

I got my dad into DT also. He also likes Liquid Tension Experiment.

[Happy]

My dad doesn't like music that much to like LTE.

[GenuineImitation]

My dad likes more of the instrumental DT stuff. I guess thats why he likes LTE.

[Happy]

Yeah, my dad's the opposite. He's one of those people who listens to the singing most.
It's kinda weird for him to like DT though.

[GenuineImitation]

Weird, but cool. Maybe he will like some more of the bands that you like if you play it to him.

[Happy]

I've played him almost everything. The things he likes are Iron Maiden and certain 'Tallica songs.
I need to break out the power metal on him.

[GenuineImitation]

If he likes Maiden, Im sure he would like some power metal. Does he like megadeth?

[Happy]

Nah I don't think so. I've played them to him a few times and he doesn't seem interested. Guess it's Dave's voice.

[GenuineImitation]

Nah I don't think so. I've played them to him a few times and he doesn't seem interested. Guess it's Dave's voice.

Thats probably it. Most people don't like it at first, but it grows on most people.

[Prince of Darkness]

I think the next album will be Metropolis Pt. lll

That would be cool.

[csl316]

hello thread, i just have a few quick questions

i was browing though ytsejamrecords, and i noticed that they put up the Dark Side of the Moon dvd. i haven't heard anything, but how is it? how's petrucci sound pulling off gilmore solos?

ive also been debating picking up the Majesty demo. what's the good word there? i doubt i could go wrong with a track list like this:
9. Anti-Procrastination Song (0:13)
10. Your Majesty (3:56)
11. Solar System Race Song (0:17)
12. I'm About To Faint Song (0:09)
13. Mosquitos In Harmony Song (0:12)
14. John Thinks He's Randy Song (0:10)
15. Mike Thinks He's Dee Dee Ramone Introducing A Song Song (0:16)
16. John Thinks He's Yngwie Song (0:15)

thoughts?

[Lord Abortion]

Everyone likes Maiden, except social freaks.

[jpshortstuff]

I think the next album will be Metropolis Pt. lll

That would be cool.
i think the metropolis story pretty much concluded with part 2.
Mind you they could do a Prequel.

[csl316]

I think the next album will be Metropolis Pt. lll

That would be cool.

what, Edward's revenge??

[Prince of Darkness]

i think the metropolis story pretty much concluded with part 2.
Mind you they could do a Prequel.

ya, there never really was a Pt. 1 was there?

[Lord Abortion]

ya, there never really was a Pt. 1 was there?
:lol:

[Enlighten Me]

Pt. 1 = track number 5 on I&W.

[GenuineImitation]

ya, there never really was a Pt. 1 was there?


lol at you unless you have never listened to Images and Words.


Metropolis Part 1 is a song on I&W

hello thread, i just have a few quick questions

i was browing though ytsejamrecords, and i noticed that they put up the Dark Side of the Moon dvd. i haven't heard anything, but how is it? how's petrucci sound pulling off gilmore solos?

ive also been debating picking up the Majesty demo. what's the good word there? i doubt i could go wrong with a track list like this:
9. Anti-Procrastination Song (0:13)
10. Your Majesty (3:56)
11. Solar System Race Song (0:17)
12. I'm About To Faint Song (0:09)
13. Mosquitos In Harmony Song (0:12)
14. John Thinks He's Randy Song (0:10)
15. Mike Thinks He's Dee Dee Ramone Introducing A Song Song (0:16)
16. John Thinks He's Yngwie Song (0:15)

thoughts?

I haven't heard the demo or the DSOTM cover. I have heard good things about the DSOTM DVD and CD though

[ghettoeddo]

what, Edward's revenge??

bahahah :laugh:

im obsessed w/ LTE more than DT right now. i truly cannot believe the level of their musicianship and the wide range of styles they encompass in thier writing.

[Prince of Darkness]

[QUOTE=GenuineImitation]lol at you unless you have never listened to Images and Words.


Metropolis Part 1 is a song on I&W[QUOTE]

I know I know, but does it fit in with what happened in SFAM?

[csl316]

i remember them saying they're "big fans of the floyd" on one of the dvd's... so hopefully they do it justice. they busted into Have a Cigar during peruvian skies when i saw them (i hear this is common, though), and that whole section was commendable

i'll just go order it. (almost) no DT is bad Dt

[csl316]

bahahah :laugh:

im obsessed w/ LTE more than DT right now. i truly cannot believe the level of their musicianship and the wide range of styles they encompass in thier writing.

i have LTE 1 and enjoy it, but people told me LTE 2 sucks... horribly (aside from Acid Rain). is there any truth to that?

[GenuineImitation]

They are big fans of Floyd and other early prog rock bands. They always do a great job with the music they play so you won't feel like you wasted a penny.

When did you see them?

[Happy]

i have LTE 1 and enjoy it, but people told me LTE 2 sucks... horribly (aside from Acid Rain). is there any truth to that?
No. LTE2 is pretty good too.

[csl316]

in Chicago for the 20th anniversary show. got my shirt and everything :thumb:

it was the show with the Anthrax drummer as a special guest. that was just amazing

i'm new to the site, but ive been lurking forever a few times a month... this little thread is actually why i got into DT 2 years ago

so i now have an unhealthy amount of DT trivia in my head, so i know about DT's fascination with yes, rush, marillion, etc. i love how they always acknowledge those who came before

[GenuineImitation]

in Chicago for the 20th anniversary show. got my shirt and everything :thumb:

it was the show with the Anthrax drummer as a special guest. that was just amazing

i'm new to the site, but ive been lurking forever a few times a month... this little thread is actually why i got into DT 2 years ago

so i now have an unhealthy amount of DT trivia in my head, so i know about DT's fascination with yes, rush, marillion, etc. i love how they always acknowledge those who came before


Thats cool. Welcome by the way.


I was at the Radio City Music Hall show where they filmed the new DVD. :cool:

[ghettoeddo]

lol at you unless you have never listened to Images and Words.


Metropolis Part 1 is a song on I&W

I know I know, but does it fit in with what happened in SFAM?

yea it actually does somewaht. a lot of the themes and melodies from SFAM are borrowed from that one song.

i have LTE 1 and enjoy it, but people told me LTE 2 sucks... horribly (aside from Acid Rain). is there any truth to that?

no truth at all. in my opinion, LTE 2 is much better. but im a fan of more laid-back kinda songs as well, like hourglass and liquid dreams.
i just feel like there's a better sense of...grooviness in the entire album. and plus, when the water breaks is an amazing song

[csl316]

ah yes, with the orchestra. im definitely excited about that.

when did portnoy mention it could be released? 3-4 months after?

[ghettoeddo]

sometime in september

[GenuineImitation]

ah yes, with the orchestra. im definitely excited about that.

when did portnoy mention it could be released? 3-4 months after?


Some time in Spetember.


EDIT: Beaten

[ghettoeddo]

haha zing genuine :]

[csl316]

ah, that works. i'll get the Dark Side... dvd to hold me over til then

[ghettoeddo]

i've been meaning to pick that one up too..gah. so many DVD's to get

[csl316]

yeah, i know how you feel.. but the semester ends in a week, so im going on a music shopping spree for myself to celebrate, hurrah:chug:

[GenuineImitation]

Interesting Portnoy interview.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1Ar3Wrtb_RI&search=dream%20theater

[csl316]

he mentions o.s.i.

anyone hear the new album, Free? i guess it's more along the lines of Chroma Key... though i won't complain about that

might have to pick that up soon

[Lionheart1827]

I was at the Radio City Music Hall show where they filmed the new DVD. :cool:

Me too.:thumb:

[Happy]

I sure hope that banner got on the DVD :D

I swear my dad was singing parts of Metropolis too.
I dunno where he's been listening to it though...

[Lord Abortion]

He's secretly got a copy of I&W under his bed.

[Josh]

i have no copy of I&W at the moment :( but i'm getting a new one for £5, probably this week or next week.

[Happy]

He's secretly got a copy of I&W under his bed.
Maybe.
Or maybe he found mine and stole it :angry:

[GenuineImitation]

I sure hope that banner got on the DVD :D

I swear my dad was singing parts of Metropolis too.
I dunno where he's been listening to it though...


I hope the banner makes it on also.


I got my dad to headbang during The Root of All Evil.

[ghettoeddo]

i remember the intro TROAE.
it was absolutely orgasmic. props to DT for one of the greatest intros.

and who's their lighting director? he's fantastic, really

[Happy]

I hope the banner makes it on also.


I got my dad to headbang during The Root of All Evil.
Haha that's awesome.

Yeah TROAE sounds so great live.

[A7X_Theater_88]

Do they ever play the glass prison live? because it isn't on any of their live DVDs.. that is one song i would love to see live, it has such a wiked intro

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, apparently they played it on Gigantour last year.

[Happy]

I always thought they played it quite a lot. I had a live video of it but deleted it.
Myung was wearing jeans :eek:

[Hollywood Rose]

What's your favorite DT album?

[Lord Abortion]

Images and Words.

[Happy]

Mine would probably be WDADU at this moment. Not very many people like it but I love the riffs, the melodies, the bass, guitar, keyboard and drum solos. I even love the singing.

[Prince of Darkness]

It's not a simple question.

It's between SFAM, Awake, Images & Words, or Train of Thought.

Not easy.

[Happy]

Indeed I had a difficult choice seeing as there's about 5 I could consider my favourite.

[Roo_bass]

At the moment Awake is my favourite album, Labrie's vocals sound great as does the rest of the band. Also it has "Space-dye Vest", "Scarred", "Lifting Shadows Off A Dream", "Caught In A Web" and "Lie"; just a whole bunch of awesome songs.

[Clunge]

Hohoh, I've converted someone to the DT cause :cool:.

[GenuineImitation]

Hohoh, I've converted someone to the DT cause :cool:.


Congrats on this accomplishment.

Lets drink to it :chug:



Do they ever play the glass prison live? because it isn't on any of their live DVDs.. that is one song i would love to see live, it has such a wiked intro


I believe they play it alot. Just because it isn't on a DVD, doesn't mean they don't play it. Portnoy makes sure each city never gets the same show twice. The cities where they filmed the DVD may have had TGP a year or two earlier.

[Lord of Sword]

I think Mike's leaving it for another DVD. They usually try and have unique setlists for every live release aswell as gig, and he has to save something for future DVDs.


As for my favourite album, probably SFAM or 6DOIT, I just prefer the sound and feel of those albums. Awake and I&W would be close behind though, then 8va, FII and ToT.

[MRDuCran]

I used to have a perfect quality video of The Glass Prison live.
It's probably on youtube somewhere.

[Hollywood Rose]

Yeah I like I&W too.

[Happy]

Oh I have a live in paris bootleg with TGP on it also.

[Chu]

I love Awake.. Mmm riffs :)

Petrucci's solos don't often do much for me, his riffs are where it's at, and Awake is riffalicious.. I don't care about any other instrument, they just add to Petrucci's classiness.

But his solo in Lie just gets me, every time...

In YtseJam, is the first solo uber-guitar shred or keyboard shred? Cause that first bend also gets me in bad ways, sitting on the bus and YtseJam comes on.. I just can't help it :x

Edit:
The Glass Prison Live: Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604836247254095706&q=The+Glass+Prison)
The Making of The Glass Prison (?): Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8486893185839336161&q=The+Glass+Prison)

[Lionheart1827]

:(

Damn you again.

I live about 15 minutes away from where Petrucci built his new home in Kings Park, Long Island.:thumb:

[Happy]

In YtseJam, is the first solo uber-guitar shred or keyboard shred? Cause that first bend also gets me in bad ways, sitting on the bus and YtseJam comes on.. I just can't help it :x

What after it speeds up?
Keyboard

It took me some time to notice but they all solo after each other.

[marc man]

Yeah, this is my first time posting in here and I would just like to say that Dream Theater are'nt just great, there one of the best bands of there time.

It take quite alot of skill to be able to play songs like houner thy father and it takes even more skill to make it as long as that.

[Chu]

What after it speeds up?
Keyboard

It took me some time to notice but they all solo after each other.
Only have Ytse Jam on my iPod, so I can't tell you what time the solo happens at..
But it's a helluva 80's sounding bend, it's so good, the shred after it is so fast and flat (as in, no vibrato/bend), I'll assume keyboard, but you never know with Mr. JP, he is a machine after all.

[Lord Abortion]

It's a great song, but I prefer the WDADU stuff that gets done on Live at the Marquee...because it's James.

[Happy]

Charlie's vocals don't sound too great on Metropolis. Glad they got James.

[GenuineImitation]

I live about 15 minutes away from where Petrucci built his new home in Kings Park, Long Island.:thumb:


Beat this. I live about 5 minutes away.


I may take pictures of the high school he went to if you guys are curious.

[temporary]

Only have Ytse Jam on my iPod, so I can't tell you what time the solo happens at..
But it's a helluva 80's sounding bend, it's so good, the shred after it is so fast and flat (as in, no vibrato/bend), I'll assume keyboard, but you never know with Mr. JP, he is a machine after all.

Nah, its a keyboard (they play it on Live In Tokyo.) Thanks for the vids you posted a few pages back.

[GenuineImitation]

It's a great song, but I prefer the WDADU stuff that gets done on Live at the Marquee...because it's James.


Charlie is a good vocalist, but he makes me cringe at times. I agree that LaBrie makes WDADU sound better.

[eug008]

Charlie is a good vocalist, but he makes me cringe at times. I agree that LaBrie makes WDADU sound better.

He dosen't sound bad on the WDAD Reunite bootleg

[GenuineImitation]

He dosen't sound bad on the WDAD Reunite bootleg

I agree. He sounds better on the bootleg than the cd. I think he is good, but some times his voice annoys me.

[nowitzki]

GenuineImitation banned, I'm shocked!

[The Fonz]

'sup thread.

So in one of my classes we have to make a silk screen shirt, So i'm gonna do the majesty logo. Sweet, amirite? I'd do something more, but it has to be just black, and simple. no grey, no nothing. black. lol.


Random topic: What do you guys think of DT lyrics, any lyrics. I remember listening to "the spirit carries on" and i was :amaze:.

Edit: the point of the smiley would be better be represented by :droppedjaw: or :wideeyes:

[Deth]

I like the lyrics that aren't stupid like "Honor Thy Father". For the most part I think they are well written.

[ghettoeddo]

NOO GENUINE!!!!

i'd like that picture of his high school when you get back prease :]

NP: octavarium
the ending solo is...perfect. i can't put it without sounding cliché...it's just so damn epic.
i love the medicate section too. definitely one of their finest songs. ever.

[Happy]

I like the lyrics that aren't stupid like "Honor Thy Father". For the most part I think they are well written.
Agreed. Mp's lyrics as a whole are pretty meh.

[Enlighten Me]

Does everyone in the band switch off writing lyrics?

[badtaste]

Anyone heard the Ytse Jam piano version? It is simply amazing. That is one of piece I would like to learn before I die.

[Jimothy the 33rd]

Anyone heard the Ytse Jam piano version? It is simply amazing. That is one of piece I would like to learn before I die.
Ooh where can I find that?
I don't download or anything so is it on a bootleg or something?

[nowitzki]

I think it is played during the credits of the WDADRU DVD.

[Happy]

Damn. Can someone please send me it I will love you forever.
jevgenji_hershplinikov@hotmail.co.uk

[RideTheSpiral]

Agreed. Mp's lyrics as a whole are pretty meh.



ACoS lyrics are awesome.

[Happy]

Oh yeah I agree with that but i can't think of anything else by MP that's awesome.
Maybe the 12 steps thing.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Status seeker wins the official award for "Gayest DT intro"

[RideTheSpiral]

I don't think anyone is going to dispute that.

[Happy]

Status seeker wins the official award for "Gayest DT intro"
agreed.
I like the way the chorus is sung though
"nothing is sacreeeeeeeeed, you draw the bottom line with a dollar sign"

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

:lol: It's so 80s!

[RideTheSpiral]

another day is probably gayer in general though

[Happy]

It has a meaning though, unlike SS.

[RideTheSpiral]

Yeah but that sax.

[Happy]

Oh yeah the sax sucks.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

:(

I like the sax...

[PAJJ]

I like the intro, it put things right after Pull Me Under ends so suddenly.

[Enlighten Me]

The Answer Lies Within might be just abit gayer than Another Day.
I still like these songs though.

[jpshortstuff]

nah the sax on AD is alright, it works with the feel of the song for me.
TALW is gayest song atm, although i know what people mean about SS intro.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

I walk beside you is slightly gayer than the answer lies within...that one is beautiful...not gay.

[jpshortstuff]

I walk beside you is slightly gayer than the answer lies within...that one is beautiful...not gay.
my bad, i did actually mean IWBY, i always get those two mixed up: i remember them both as the songs on 8vm that i never listen to. TALW i dont listen to because i never really in the mood for a ballady type song.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

:eek:

I'm ALWAYS in the mood for a ballad!

[jpshortstuff]

:eek:

I'm ALWAYS in the mood for a ballad!
really? even with a user name like that?

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Of course...this is Lord Abortion's alt account:p

I just got banned for a day

[jpshortstuff]

Of course...this is Lord Abortion's alt account:p

I just got banned for a day
ahh hehe that explains stuff. i though you were just some random CC fan who happened to like DT.

[Enlighten Me]

I dunno I Walk Beside You is also KINDA gay, but i like it alot.

It's got this weird mixture between Coldplay and U2.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Well...maybe that's not too bad a description after all...

Anyway, yeah, I'm a huge fan of the ballads.

NP-The Mirror

[jpshortstuff]

if i was playing through an album i would play all the ballads cus they're part of the album, but if i was thinking 'hey i want to listen to some sick DT' i wouldnt. Would you class The Spirit Carries On? if so then thats my fav ballad.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Yeah, and it's mine too:)

Oh, apart from surrounded...but that's just my favourite DT song altogether.

[jpshortstuff]

yeah surrounded is pretty cool, i like the way the melody and singing work well together at the verse around 2:00, and the short thing at 2:34/3:28 is pretty cool aswell. Some parts later on dont always work for me. The little interludey/solo thing at 3:39 is good aswell. Also the way it reverts to the soft thing for the ending. Actually theres quite a few things i like.
Hehe look at me all song time quoting.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Yeah, the start and the ending are what I love the most...

NP-Voices(LSFNY)

[Enlighten Me]

Now Voices is a song i still really can't get into.
The rest of Awake is good.

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

Wow, really?

Get yourself listening to the live version, matey.

NP-Learning to live

[red barchetta]

all this talk of certain DT songs being gay makes me think that im gay :amaze:

[Cannibalcorpse1626]

I giggle every time I hear the end of the LSFNY ACOS and James says "Sorry aboot the short set"

Lawl

NP-Disappear(Live)

[Enlighten Me]

all this talk of certain DT songs being gay makes me think that im gay :amaze:

Listen, if you pop a woody to this:
http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/madchester/rave/118/pitt33.jpg
Then that pretty much settles it.

[bwnstl]

Listen, if you pop a woody to this:
http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/madchester/rave/118/pitt33.jpg
Then that pretty much settles it.

I love hotlinking.

[RideTheSpiral]

Now Voices is a song i still really can't get into.
The rest of Awake is good.



Voices is close to my favourite DT song. :-/

[Inkstar]

Voices is awesome! Especially the LSFNY version.

NP - Honor Thy Father

[ghettoeddo]

Now Voices is a song i still really can't get into.
The rest of Awake is good.

ohhh man. lyrically, it's very poignant and has a lot to say. i'd rate it in the top 10 DT songs ever.

DT ballads are nice :] i don't think any song is gay except for lines in the sand. but that's just me. i personally love IWBU and TALW. im excited to see TALW on DVD