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GenuineImitation
04-15-2006, 09:13 PM
Are there any other people here besides me who are just angered by the fact that everyone in Dream Theater turns into a statue when they play shows? They're so unbelieveably dull live.


Im not. I go to the show for the music, not to see them run around on stage. For the April First show, they moved aroung quite a bit. I believe there was a part where Myung went over to Petrucci's side and LaBrie moved around alot also.

Thor
04-15-2006, 09:16 PM
Well I mean of course you'd go to see them because of their music, but I would probably get bored after a while if they didn't do at least a little something. I was just watching them play "This Dying Soul" on some Youtube video and they really didn't move at all for several minutes.

While they are all very good at their instruments, they really need to work on their showmanship.

GenuineImitation
04-15-2006, 09:18 PM
Trust me, they moved alot more for the new DVD then the Live at Budokon DVD.

I wasn't bored at all during their concert, but I can see why some people would be.

nowitzki
04-15-2006, 10:14 PM
Well I mean of course you'd go to see them because of their music, but I would probably get bored after a while if they didn't do at least a little something. I was just watching them play "This Dying Soul" on some Youtube video and they really didn't move at all for several minutes.

While they are all very good at their instruments, they really need to work on their showmanship.
I disagree, a Dream Theater show is all about the music, and in that department they are incredible, a band doesn't need to run around the stage to put on a great show. They aren't really as static as people make out, LaBrie does a great job of getting the crowd going, and the shows have great light and video shows. I don't remember ever hearing anyone saying they went to a Dream Theater show and they got bored (despite the shows being 3 hours long).

GenuineImitation
04-15-2006, 10:16 PM
I disagree, a Dream Theater show is all about the music, and in that department they are incredible, a band doesn't need to run around the stage to put on a great show. They aren't really as static as people make out, LaBrie does a great job of getting the crowd going, and the shows have great light and video shows. I don't remember ever hearing anyone saying they went to a Dream Theater show and they got bored (despite the shows being 3 hours long).


I agree. When I went to the concert, I was so into it that I lost track of time. I was really disappointed that it was over, not because it was boring or I wished they played a better song off of ToT, but because it was over and I will have to wait to see them again.

nowitzki
04-15-2006, 10:17 PM
Did anyone else know Portnoy is doing a couple of shows with Billy Sheehan, Paul Gilbert and Gary Cherone as a tribute to The Who at the end of May?
Yeah, Portnoy has organised and performed 4 tribute acts now, with various musicians (Rush, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and The Who). I think CDs/DVDs of these might be available on mikeportnoy.com.

JonG
04-16-2006, 12:23 AM
This is pretty random, but I was messin' around and found that Ytse Jam is Majesty backwards, which was there old band before DT..

Anyways...Ytse Jam was one of the first songs I heard by DT.

Lord Abortion
04-16-2006, 05:09 AM
Yeah, Portnoy is in Hammer of the Gods, a led zep tribute band, and Yellow custard(I think) A Beatles one.
The Spirit carries on is my favourite track off SFAM, but I love all that album, it's truly amazing.

Happy
04-16-2006, 06:19 AM
While they are all very good at their instruments, they really need to work on their showmanship.
Nah I don't think they're boring live.
They move a bit though. Labrie's been more on stage this tour, jumping about and stuff, Mike's always a a show off and even Myung's been moving about a bit like playing Petrucci's guitar with one hand and playing his bass with the other.

Rudess just smiles a lot. And spins. Gotta love it.

classicrockman
04-16-2006, 11:08 AM
If you wannna go see a great stage show but not really great music...go see Kiss. If you wanna hear great music but not have the best stage show...go see Dream Theater.

I'll take Dream Theater.

Petrucci
04-16-2006, 12:41 PM
This is pretty random, but I was messin' around and found that Ytse Jam is Majesty backwards, which was there old band before DT..

Anyways...Ytse Jam was one of the first songs I heard by DT.
Wow, I never noticed that.:eek:

Happy
04-16-2006, 02:00 PM
Me neither until a friend told me.

3rdplanet
04-16-2006, 05:13 PM
I was :eek: 'd when I spotted the Ytse Jam thingy too.

Hmmm...I probably can't speak for everyone cause I've never listened to Jame's solo album or Transatlantic but Liquid Tension Experiment is AWESOME. John Petrucci's 'Suspended Animation' record is very good also.

I'm already a fan of LTE and was kinda wondering about other side projects they had. I think I'll try just downloaded some random solo/side project stuff from the band.

It's so nice to hear Floyd with decent drumming, Portnoy just spruced those tracks up for me.

Triangle
04-16-2006, 05:57 PM
Transatlantic's alright until you realise you're listening to an album consisting of 20-30+min long songs. :-/

ghettoeddo
04-16-2006, 09:10 PM
james's solo stuff is really incredible. seriously, i highly recommend it.

song strucutre is all prety much the same, but it's easy listening compared to DT's stuff.

i think DT moves more for DVD filming shows than other shows. i saw em on gigantour, and htis last tour and when i compare that to DVD's, the difference is there.

but i sure as hell wasn't bored and i was in row 28. even my friends who didnt know a single song said it was the most amazing show they've ever been to.

bwnstl
04-17-2006, 01:51 AM
As for side projects, I'd definitely say the top two are OSI's first album and LTE1.

Happy
04-17-2006, 05:31 AM
Osi?

Lord Abortion
04-17-2006, 07:21 AM
LTE are excellent, though.

Happy
04-17-2006, 07:22 AM
Indeed but they do get a little boring after a while.
But then again. They made those albums in week sessions.

bwnstl
04-17-2006, 12:58 PM
Osi?

Office of Strategic Influence?

With Kevin Moore?

Happy
04-17-2006, 01:03 PM
Oh.
I've not heard them.

The Fonz
04-17-2006, 03:02 PM
Yeah, Portnoy is in Hammer of the Gods, a led zep tribute band, and Yellow custard(I think) A Beatles one.
The Spirit carries on is my favourite track off SFAM, but I love all that album, it's truly amazing.


yeah, i was listening to dream theater for the first time really, one night not to long ago, and i have/had 20 songs, and that was one. i just layed there :eek: .

SFaM and actavarium are my favroite ablums so far, but all that i've really heard much of. I have all of octavarium, and like all but one song off SFaM. so yeah. They're amazing, i just bought an octavarium shirt, and when i get some $$ SFaM is next, because the shirts really cool (amirite? imrite).

and yeah. so.. umm.. 'sup first thread post.

GenuineImitation
04-17-2006, 03:47 PM
yeah, i was listening to dream theater for the first time really, one night not to long ago, and i have/had 20 songs, and that was one. i just layed there :eek: .

SFaM and actavarium are my favroite ablums so far, but all that i've really heard much of. I have all of octavarium, and like all but one song off SFaM. so yeah. They're amazing, i just bought an octavarium shirt, and when i get some $$ SFaM is next, because the shirts really cool (amirite? imrite).

and yeah. so.. umm.. 'sup first thread post.


'sup new possible regular.

The Fonz
04-17-2006, 04:19 PM
'sup new possible regular.


I wouldnt say reg. just becuase. well.

I started out in R&M, when i use dto look at the tabs, and see like "forums" and some threads on the side. well anyway, one day, I wandered into the pit, and its like crack.
I try to venture back in here as often as i can though. But ill try to make it here more. cause DT are simply amazing.

anyway
http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wa/product?sku=DRA37785

on the back, under the names, i know on the the version they sold on tour, i guess, it was a newpaper clipping, but whats that here? maybe you guys can figure out what it is. lol. sorry to be all.. stupid question.y.

Lord Abortion
04-17-2006, 04:25 PM
The Fonz.
Three words for you

Images
And
Words

pep
04-17-2006, 04:26 PM
This is pretty random, but I was messin' around and found that Ytse Jam is Majesty backwards, which was there old band before DT..

Anyways...Ytse Jam was one of the first songs I heard by DT.


I thought it was called Ytsejam cause it would be like Its a Jam, and since the song is instrumental it could be a jam... anyway, the huge DT fan of my friend told me it was Majesty backwards.

The Fonz
04-17-2006, 04:28 PM
The Fonz.
Three words for you

Images
And
Words



I'll be sure to check it out. thanks. :)

GenuineImitation
04-17-2006, 04:46 PM
I'll be sure to check it out. thanks. :)


In addition to that, I have one word for you.


Awake

ghettoeddo
04-17-2006, 06:11 PM
uhhh...how about 4?

scenes. from. a. memory.
looka t all these dissenting opinions.
only solution?
GET EM ALL!!!!! MUAHAHHA

ghettoeddo
04-17-2006, 06:13 PM
does anybody else actualyl like new millennium? i know we have lord abortion constantly raving abt take away my pain but the rest of the album actually isn't that bad.

...i really like burning my soul also :upset:

Lord Abortion
04-17-2006, 06:14 PM
I'm a huge New Millennium fan, too.

Same goes for Hollow years, trial of tears and burning my soul.

You not me is pretty dire though

GenuineImitation
04-17-2006, 06:15 PM
I love New Millennium, especially the Budokon version.

bwnstl
04-17-2006, 06:49 PM
Lines in the Sand.

pep
04-17-2006, 08:38 PM
Trial of tears... although the instrumental part in the middle is kinda boring. I love take away my pain and hollow years.

IbanezSamurai
04-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Yeah, new millenium is one of my fav songs, I love the middle section, when John comes in with the clean channel and wah.

I love New Millennium, especially the Budokon version.

It was alright, I felt like it was bit rushed though.



Ps. couple weeks ago I've realized that YTSE JAM spelled backwards is Majesty, what do ya know... :p

RideTheSpiral
04-17-2006, 08:43 PM
Trial of Tears is one of DT's best songs.

Lord Abortion
04-17-2006, 08:44 PM
I love the wasteland bit the most.

RideTheSpiral
04-17-2006, 09:07 PM
<3.

GenuineImitation
04-17-2006, 09:10 PM
Trial of Tears is one of DT's best songs.


Quoted for truth.

zabbit82
04-17-2006, 09:13 PM
does anybody else actualyl like new millennium? i know we have lord abortion constantly raving abt take away my pain but the rest of the album actually isn't that bad.

...i really like burning my soul also :upset:

New Millenium is a great song. I also like Trail of Tears quite a bit, and the rest of that album is pretty cool.

classicrockman
04-17-2006, 09:56 PM
My faves off of 'Falling Into Infinity:'

1. Peruvian Skies
2. New Millenium
3. Hollow Years
4. Burning My Soul
5. Take Away My Pain

Post yours...

Mute Requiem
04-17-2006, 10:00 PM
From FII:

Peruvian Skies
Lines in the Sand
Hell's Kitchen
Take Away My Pain
Trial of Tears

Not really in any particular order

bwnstl
04-17-2006, 10:53 PM
I love the wasteland bit the most.

That part gives me chills.

classicrockman
04-17-2006, 11:18 PM
From FII:

Peruvian Skies
Lines in the Sand
Hell's Kitchen
Take Away My Pain
Trial of Tears

Not really in any particular order
Interesting. I think Peruvian Skies is one of their best also.

ghettoeddo
04-18-2006, 12:49 AM
peruvian skies is most definitely one of their best.
from FII:
peruvian skies
trial of tears (the opening is absolutely brilliant)
burning my soul
new millennium
anna lee/hell's kitchen

lines in the sand is the only DT song so far i cannot stand.

It was alright, I felt like it was bit rushed though.
they rush their songs live a lot cuz they have to fit it all within 3 hours. it bugs me as a musician of 10+ years, but it's gotta be done yea?

nowitzki
04-18-2006, 02:11 AM
The demo versions of the FII songs are so much better than the album versions.

Rattlehead
04-18-2006, 03:54 AM
i love dream theatre. Petrucci is a legend. LaBrie is a very talented vocalist i think, but it gets to me sometimes. the cheesiness. some of the vocals i really like, but the first verse of "As I Am" gets to me. the first vocals on Endless Sacrifice are similar, but i like them. i like it's chorus vocals.

This Dying Soul vocals > As I Am and similar vocals.

i only know Train of Thought enough to give my opinion on it, but i have six degrees and octav. aswell.

what else should i get?

Captain Quentin
04-18-2006, 05:37 AM
try scenes from a memory or images and words, both outstanding albums
on second thought, get them all :p

Clunge
04-18-2006, 06:55 AM
It struck me a few days ago why I like DT.

They're sooo very over-the-top and theatrical in their style of music. It borders on being really quite cheesy which makes me like it even more :D.

Lord Abortion
04-18-2006, 07:08 AM
I forgot the greatness that is Anna Lee!:eek:

Right, can you guys help me here?
When, on the LSFNY commentary, they talk about the "'96 metropolis" what exactly is that to do with?

Is it what was going to happen when The record company buggered them about and made them release FII instead of what would become SFAM later on?

Rattlehead
04-18-2006, 07:30 AM
try scenes from a memory or images and words, both outstanding albums
on second thought, get them all :p
cheers man, ill get those two.:thumb:

Josh
04-18-2006, 07:33 AM
I&W was the first album i heard by Dream Theater, it's still my favourite of the albums of theirs i have copies of :)

Rattlehead
04-18-2006, 08:32 AM
cool. people tell me 6degrees is best. it is for me, but i only have that and ToT and Octa. ToT was my first, i like it alot. the As I Am solo is truly insane, probably one one my faves. Octavarium i like, not so much though. Never Enough is cool. the riffs are great. Octavarium (song) is great, really chilled.

i love how all their songs are so long. they should do a few concept albums, it seems their style.

Lord of Sword
04-18-2006, 09:12 AM
Right, can you guys help me here?
When, on the LSFNY commentary, they talk about the "'96 metropolis" what exactly is that to do with?

Is it what was going to happen when The record company buggered them about and made them release FII instead of what would become SFAM later on?

It was the original Metropolis PtII, they came up with a few ideas and I think started writing a few tracks years before the album was released. It wasn't supposed to be released in the place of FII, they wrote all of FII while they were switching management and record companies as their next album, they only started working on SFAM properly once Jordan joined.

Lord Abortion
04-18-2006, 10:10 AM
Ah, I see, thankyou

Happy
04-18-2006, 11:42 AM
I always assumed it was like a tour thing where they had been jamming on the road and had came up with a little Metropolis II.

nowitzki
04-18-2006, 12:34 PM
It was the original Metropolis PtII, they came up with a few ideas and I think started writing a few tracks years before the album was released. It wasn't supposed to be released in the place of FII, they wrote all of FII while they were switching management and record companies as their next album, they only started working on SFAM properly once Jordan joined.
I think the initial idea was to have it as a track on FII (which would have been a double album). FII could have been so much better than it turned out.

Happy
04-18-2006, 12:35 PM
Don't say that around Ollie!

Lord Abortion
04-18-2006, 12:45 PM
Well, I agree...I really like FII, but to have it as a double album, with Metropolis as possibly an ACOS style lengthy single track would have been very interesting.

Happy
04-18-2006, 01:03 PM
But then there would've been no SFAM.
I would've wanted that much more.

Lord Abortion
04-18-2006, 01:05 PM
Interesting, not better:p

Rattlehead
04-18-2006, 02:10 PM
omg who the hell recomended that i got images and words?!?! it is one big rolling ball of cheese. urgh!

ToT FTW.

EinzingerIsGod
04-18-2006, 02:29 PM
omg who the hell recomended that i got images and words?!?! it is one big rolling ball of cheese. urgh!

ToT FTW.

Images and Words is one of their best. Personally, I don't like ToT at all. Images and Words will grow on you.

GenuineImitation
04-18-2006, 03:25 PM
omg who the hell recomended that i got images and words?!?! it is one big rolling ball of cheese. urgh!

ToT FTW.


The person who recommended it to you should have said it was very different from the 3 albums you have. Its a great albums and will grow on you in time.

Awake and Metropolis: Scenes from a Memory have a more metal/hard rock sound than Images.

iceman3019
04-18-2006, 03:27 PM
peruvian skies is most definitely one of their best.
from FII:
peruvian skies
trial of tears (the opening is absolutely brilliant)
burning my soul
new millennium
anna lee/hell's kitchen

lines in the sand is the only DT song so far i cannot stand.


they rush their songs live a lot cuz they have to fit it all within 3 hours. it bugs me as a musician of 10+ years, but it's gotta be done yea?

trial of tears is absolutely beautiful, definitely one of their best songs . . .

Rattlehead
04-18-2006, 03:38 PM
Images and Words is one of their best. Personally, I don't like ToT at all. Images and Words will grow on you.
fair enough, ill take you word for it. is Scenes From A Memory similar? what album is it most like?

GenuineImitation
04-18-2006, 03:51 PM
fair enough, ill take you word for it. is Scenes From A Memory similar? what album is it most like?


See my post on the bottom of the last page.

ghettoeddo
04-18-2006, 06:23 PM
rattlehead, thou shalt not blaspheme images and words in this thread. it is...the holy of holies.
actually, feel free haha. it'sj ust a really different style of music. ToT is their heaviest album, so nothing will really compare if that's what you're into.

if you thought the as i am solo was wicked...man. that's just standard petrucci shredding. you gotta hear some of his other stuff.
stand-out solos that come to mind:
surrounded from I&W
octavarium (title track)
ending of goodnight kiss off of 6DOIT
peruvian skies from FII
voices/lie/scarred from awake
the spirit carries on from SFAM

im really not much of a fan of just shred shred shred. hence my distance w/ this dying soul. that last bit is unbearable for me...

Happy
04-19-2006, 02:01 AM
Operation get my friends into DT starts today.
Wish me luck.

nowitzki
04-19-2006, 02:12 AM
rattlehead, thou shalt not blaspheme images and words in this thread. it is...the holy of holies.
actually, feel free haha. it'sj ust a really different style of music. ToT is their heaviest album, so nothing will really compare if that's what you're into.

if you thought the as i am solo was wicked...man. that's just standard petrucci shredding. you gotta hear some of his other stuff.
stand-out solos that come to mind:
surrounded from I&W
octavarium (title track)
ending of goodnight kiss off of 6DOIT
peruvian skies from FII
voices/lie/scarred from awake
the spirit carries on from SFAM

im really not much of a fan of just shred shred shred. hence my distance w/ this dying soul. that last bit is unbearable for me...
The two solos that really make my jaw drop (the most) are Stream of Consciousness and In The Name Of God.

Clunge
04-19-2006, 05:12 AM
Operation get my friends into DT starts today.
Wish me luck.
Just play them I Walk Beside You lots :p .

And the good stuff of course.

Rattlehead
04-19-2006, 05:19 AM
rattlehead, thou shalt not blaspheme images and words in this thread. it is...the holy of holies.
actually, feel free haha. it'sj ust a really different style of music. ToT is their heaviest album, so nothing will really compare if that's what you're into.

if you thought the as i am solo was wicked...man. that's just standard petrucci shredding. you gotta hear some of his other stuff.
stand-out solos that come to mind:
surrounded from I&W
octavarium (title track)
ending of goodnight kiss off of 6DOIT
peruvian skies from FII
voices/lie/scarred from awake
the spirit carries on from SFAM

im really not much of a fan of just shred shred shred. hence my distance w/ this dying soul. that last bit is unbearable for me...

cool. i havn't got awake.

yes, i'm more of a heavy listener. but that doesn't mean i am inflexible in my listening, i just dont like heavy cheese, that's all. though that's hypocritical, because i like Rainbow(only the uncheesy bits:p). but yeah, i've been told that IaW will grow on me by two people now, so i'll take back my words for now.

Lord Abortion
04-19-2006, 05:58 AM
I quite like I walk beside you.

Captain Quentin
04-19-2006, 06:26 AM
cool. i havn't got awake.

yes, i'm more of a heavy listener. but that doesn't mean i am inflexible in my listening, i just dont like heavy cheese, that's all. though that's hypocritical, because i like Rainbow(only the uncheesy bits:p). but yeah, i've been told that IaW will grow on me by two people now, so i'll take back my words for now.

yeah, maybe for starters on I&W try pull me under, it has more of a 'catchy' feel to it, it was the song that i first liked on the album
and yeah the album it does grow on you

Slapping Penguin
04-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Does any one like Honour Thy Father?

Lord Abortion
04-19-2006, 07:20 AM
It's my least favourite track on ToT

Clunge
04-19-2006, 07:33 AM
It's my favourite track off ToT.

Bar the rap, but I've edited that out of my version :cool:

Rattlehead
04-19-2006, 07:35 AM
Does any one like Honour Thy Father?
yeah it owns. that and endless sacrifice tend to form orgasms. This Dying Soul is great too.

NP: Strange Deja Vu

-i like this album. alot.

Rattlehead
04-19-2006, 09:21 AM
my god, someone delete this guy's account. quick.

Happy
04-19-2006, 10:44 AM
Just play them I Walk Beside You lots :p .

And the good stuff of course.
Yeah that'd probably work.

bwnstl
04-19-2006, 11:35 AM
I quite like I walk beside you.

I hate U2 :( :(

Lord Abortion
04-19-2006, 11:39 AM
I like U2, but it's not all that much like them.

Happy
04-19-2006, 11:42 AM
I hate U2 :( :(
It's nothing like U2.

temporary
04-19-2006, 02:37 PM
Operation get my friends into DT starts today.
Wish me luck.

A bunch of my freinds listen to DT, good luck with yours.

Good to see the DT thread has remained intact while my internet was down.

ghettoeddo
04-19-2006, 11:31 PM
i rather like i walk beside you as well ever since i saw em play it live.

honor thy father kinda annoys me. that riff over and over again gets to me, but i love the part where james whispers "don't cross the crooked step." it's just so...evil :]

endless sacrifice is my fave bar none off of ToT.

the solos on ToT are impressive, but they're all just...play as fast as you can. plus, JR goes nuts w/ that HORRIBLE keyboard wah tone of his. SoC is probably my least favorite instrumental...

nowitzki
04-20-2006, 01:48 AM
It's nothing like U2.
I think it is, it has quite a clear U2 influence. As with Lifting Shadows Off A Dream.

Happy
04-20-2006, 01:56 AM
I guess so. But I don't think it sounds like U2. At least not as much as LSOAD does.

Lord Abortion
04-20-2006, 03:24 PM
My favourite off ToT is in the name of God.

Clunge
04-20-2006, 03:27 PM
I can't get enough of Honor Thy Father. On the surface it seems really repetetive and a bit cheesy really but I can just listen to it over and over.

Rattlehead
04-20-2006, 03:53 PM
most of their stuff is cheesy and HTF is nothing to it lol... i really love that song too.

GenuineImitation
04-20-2006, 04:33 PM
My favourite off ToT is in the name of God.


That and Endless Sacrifice are my top 2 off of ToT.

Rattlehead
04-20-2006, 04:44 PM
That and Endless Sacrifice are my top 2 off of ToT.
same.

GenuineImitation
04-20-2006, 04:47 PM
My order off of ToT is

1. In the Name of God
2. Endless Sacrifice
3. Stream of Consciousness
4. This Dying Soul
5. As I Am
6. Honour Thy Father
7. Vacant

Ad Absurdum
04-20-2006, 05:24 PM
My order off of ToT is

1. In the Name of God
2. Endless Sacrifice
3. Stream of Consciousness
4. This Dying Soul
5. As I Am
6. Honour Thy Father
7. VacantCool, that's quite similar to mine. Mines would be

1. 'In The Name Of God'
2. 'This Dying Soul'
3. 'Endless Sacrifice'
4. 'Stream Of Consciousness'
5. 'Honor Thy Father'
6. 'As I Am'
7. 'Vacant'

I've been listening to Octavarium alot lately. It's grown on me a bunch, its definately becoming one of my favourite DT album now.

GenuineImitation
04-20-2006, 05:55 PM
I've been listening to Octavarium alot lately. It's grown on me a bunch, its definately becoming one of my favourite DT album now.


Same thing for me. The song Octavarium is quickly becoming my favorite DT song.

Lemuria
04-20-2006, 06:36 PM
can some give me a cd of Dream Theater? i really want to listen to them

GenuineImitation
04-20-2006, 06:53 PM
can some give me a cd of Dream Theater? i really want to listen to them


Whats your AIM?

Mute Requiem
04-20-2006, 08:02 PM
I've been listening to Octavarium alot lately. It's grown on me a bunch, its definately becoming one of my favourite DT album now.

Yeah, it's definetly a great album. These Walls is probably in my top 10 DT songs. I love how it doesn't contain all the wankery their songs usually do, and Rudess simply shines on the CD.

classicrockman
04-20-2006, 10:08 PM
Cool, that's quite similar to mine. Mines would be

1. 'In The Name Of God'
2. 'This Dying Soul'
3. 'Endless Sacrifice'
4. 'Stream Of Consciousness'
5. 'Honor Thy Father'
6. 'As I Am'
7. 'Vacant'

I've been listening to Octavarium alot lately. It's grown on me a bunch, its definately becoming one of my favourite DT album now.
Mine:

1. Endless Sacrifice
2. Stream of Conciousness
3. As I Am
4. In the Name of God
5. Honor Thy Father
6. This Dying Soul
7. Vacant

Lemuria
04-20-2006, 10:10 PM
Whats your AIM?
can you send it by www.yousendit.com?

Lemuria
04-20-2006, 10:12 PM
Whats your AIM?
i just have MSN

Happy
04-21-2006, 02:00 AM
can you send it by www.yousendit.com?
If Genuine doesn't do it, I will.

nowitzki
04-21-2006, 06:32 AM
My order off of ToT is

1. In the Name of God
2. Endless Sacrifice
3. Stream of Consciousness
4. This Dying Soul
5. As I Am
6. Honour Thy Father
7. Vacant
Mine would be the same, except I might move SoC up to 2nd.

Kirk's Puppet
04-21-2006, 08:59 AM
ToT is my least favourite DT album. I kinda like WDaDU more now actually. In order of best track to worst, imo...

1. In the Name of God
2. Stream of Consciousness
3. Endless Sacrifice
4. This Dying Soul
5. Honor Thy Father
6. Vacant
7. As I Am

I like Vacant, but As I Am is just horrible.

White
04-21-2006, 09:56 AM
In the Name Of God
Endless Sacrifice
And As I am

They are pretty much my all-time favorite songs lol. but there are some other songs I like moer

nowitzki
04-21-2006, 10:12 AM
My brother's band (scenesfromatheater on here) is covering As I Am tonight.

the2stranger
04-21-2006, 10:15 AM
Never knew you were brothers :eek:
I wish him a good show though \m/

Rattlehead
04-21-2006, 11:49 AM
what's WDaDU?

Ad Absurdum
04-21-2006, 12:28 PM
6. This Dying SoulBlasphemy!

what's WDaDU?When Dream And Day Unite, Dream Theater's first album which came out in 1989. I'd say its much more power metal than the rest of their stuff and I would say that its an acquired taste too.

Lemuria
04-21-2006, 02:21 PM
If Genuine doesn't do it, I will.
hey thanks my e-mail is peper_6@hotmail.com

Happy
04-21-2006, 02:25 PM
hey thanks my e-mail is peper_6@hotmail.com
Okay.
I'll send you Images & Words.

Lemuria
04-21-2006, 02:26 PM
Okay.
I'll send you Images & Words.
thanks alot

Rattlehead
04-21-2006, 02:39 PM
Blasphemy![/QUOTE
lol, as in it should be further up(\m/damn right) or in that you don't like it so it should be further down?
[QUOTE=Ad Absurdum]When Dream And Day Unite, Dream Theater's first album which came out in 1989. I'd say its much more power metal than the rest of their stuff and I would say that its an acquired taste too.
is it more cheesy than images and words?

do Dream Theatre get less cheesy(so to speak) as their albums came out?

Happy
04-21-2006, 02:44 PM
I love it so much. It's probably the cheesiest of their albums. And when they say it's an acquired taste, it really is. I'm one of the only people here that loves it.

temporary
04-21-2006, 02:45 PM
My brother's band (scenesfromatheater on here) is covering As I Am tonight.

Tell him I wish him luck. I had no idea you guys were brothers...

As to the ToT discusion, I'd definitly say Endless Sacrifice is my favorite (seeing them play it live owned) and In the Name of God is amazing as well. Still though, many of the solos on ToT are some of JP's worst, sadly.

Lord Abortion
04-21-2006, 03:38 PM
I don't even understand the term, "cheesy"

Happy
04-21-2006, 04:03 PM
thanks alot
Sorry dude, I'll have to resend it tomorrow or Sunday. I spent about 2 hours uploading it when I got a message saying
"Your file exceeds the 50MB limit for unregistered users"
It was only 52MB. Damn.

Cheesy=you can't listen to it without cringing.

GenuineImitation
04-21-2006, 04:47 PM
I don't even understand the term, "cheesy"


Either do I. When I hear cheesy, I either think of Power or Hair Metal, except power metal is good.

Prince of Darkness
04-21-2006, 05:19 PM
Hmm...New dvd in September...

Happy
04-21-2006, 05:22 PM
Ooh. That's when it's out.
Not too long to wait then.

GenuineImitation
04-21-2006, 06:07 PM
Thats alot sooner than I thought it would be. September will be a great month. College and a new DT DVD.

classicrockman
04-21-2006, 09:18 PM
Hmm...New dvd in September...
Where did you find that news?

Atica
04-21-2006, 09:51 PM
Can someone pass me Dream Theater's When Dream and Day United?

pizzapie88
04-22-2006, 12:36 AM
It's a bit late, but my list from Train of Thought. Best to worst.

1. This Dying Soul
2. As I Am
3. Endless Sacrafice
4. Vacant
5. In The Name Of God
6 Honor Thy Father
7. Stream of Consciousness

Lord Abortion
04-22-2006, 03:23 AM
September!

Woo

Rattlehead
04-22-2006, 03:57 AM
It's a bit late, but my list from Train of Thought. Best to worst.

1. This Dying Soul
2. As I Am
3. Endless Sacrafice
4. Vacant
5. In The Name Of God
6 Honor Thy Father
7. Stream of Consciousness
HTF is too far down!

IMO... ES>AiA

I'm Charming
04-22-2006, 04:13 AM
HTF is too far down!

IMO... ES>AiA


1. This Dying Soul
2. Honor Thy Father
3. As I Am
4. Endless Sacrafice
5. In The Name Of God
6. Stream of Consciousness
7. Vacant

That's how I have it stacked up.

Happy
04-22-2006, 04:49 AM
Can someone pass me Dream Theater's When Dream and Day United?
Yeah give me your e-mail and I'll get it to you along with Lemuria's upload.



And to be honest, I can't stand Honor Thy Father. I don't like the lyrics at all.

Rattlehead
04-22-2006, 05:04 AM
i love the vocals in it. i prefer them to his images and words style of singing.

Clunge
04-22-2006, 05:46 AM
1. As I Am
2. Honor Thy Father
3. This Dying Soul
4. Endless Sacrifice
5. In The Name Of God
6. Stream Of Consciousness
7. Vacant

Pour moi.

Happy
04-22-2006, 06:11 AM
1. Stream of Conciousness
2. In the Name of God
3. As I Am
4. This Dying Soul
5. Vacant
6. Endless Sacrifice
7. Honor Thy Father

It's different.

Mr_Bounce
04-22-2006, 09:57 AM
Honor Thy Father's opening drum patterns + rhythmic semi-breakdown riff (all before vocals) > rest of song, by a lot, IMO.

Lemuria
04-22-2006, 02:04 PM
Sorry dude, I'll have to resend it tomorrow or Sunday. I spent about 2 hours uploading it when I got a message saying
"Your file exceeds the 50MB limit for unregistered users"
It was only 52MB. Damn.

Cheesy=you can't listen to it without cringing.
ohhh man ok sent it to me when you can

jpshortstuff
04-22-2006, 02:26 PM
wohoo, got Live in Tokyo/5 Years In A Livetime today
well im happy

So September eh, cant wait.

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 02:35 PM
wohoo, got Live in Tokyo/5 Years In A Livetime today
well im happy

So September eh, cant wait.


I got that DVD not too long ago. The production isn't that good, but it is still a very entertaining thing to watch.

Petrucci
04-22-2006, 02:39 PM
I love that DVD!

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 02:46 PM
The only problem I have with it, is that they put stuff that should be extra's inbetween the concert footage. I would have liked it much better if they didn't do that, but what are you going to do. Its still great, however nothing beats Budokon yet. The new DVD will rival it, it may even be better.

White
04-22-2006, 03:06 PM
Right now Im listning to "The Test That Stumped Them All" Its wicked

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 03:15 PM
That and War Inside My Head are my favorite parts of 6DOIT.

Happy
04-22-2006, 05:48 PM
Absolutely brilliant on LATB too.
Especially James' pimping actions.

Thor
04-22-2006, 09:51 PM
Does anyone else in here think that The Glass Prison is one of the band's best songs? Even though I have a hard time listening to them, this song struck me as being really really good.

classicrockman
04-22-2006, 10:33 PM
Does anyone else in here think that The Glass Prison is one of the band's best songs? Even though I have a hard time listening to them, this song struck me as being really really good.
"The Glass Prison" is a great song. I find it kinda hard to listen to at first but now I really like it. It's good but I'm not sure if it belongs in the Dream Theater top 10.

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 10:48 PM
Does anyone else in here think that The Glass Prison is one of the band's best songs? Even though I have a hard time listening to them, this song struck me as being really really good.


As much as I love the song, I dont think it is the best. But thats just my opinion.

Crysiss
04-22-2006, 11:44 PM
"The Glass Prison" is a great song. I find it kinda hard to listen to at first but now I really like it. It's good but I'm not sure if it belongs in the Dream Theater top 10.

Thats the song that got me into Dream Theater. Then I heard As I Am:)

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 11:46 PM
The song that got me into DT was Pull Me Under. I then bought Train of Thought and was hooked for life.

classicrockman
04-22-2006, 11:56 PM
The song that got me into DT was Pull Me Under. I then bought Train of Thought and was hooked for life.
Same here. That's why I still regard "Pull Me Under" as a good Dream Theater song. It got me into Dream Theater, so I have a good connection with that song.

GenuineImitation
04-22-2006, 11:58 PM
Same here. That's why I still regard "Pull Me Under" as a good Dream Theater song. It got me into Dream Theater, so I have a good connection with that song.


Its one of my favorite DT songs for that reason. Sure there are better songs, but if it wasnt for PMU, I wouldnt know who they are.

heavy metal kid
04-23-2006, 12:38 AM
The first song i've heard from DT was Pull Me Under, but it didn't have an impact at first, then i've heard Home by the time the crazy outro finished i was downloading the song, i think that was the song that got me into DT.

Crysiss
04-23-2006, 12:42 AM
Pull Me Under is an awesome song as well.

Mother
04-23-2006, 12:50 AM
So i've been looking toget in to Dream Theater and I was thinking which album to get . . . Im looking for the heavier/faster stuff.

Any Suggestions?

heavy metal kid
04-23-2006, 12:57 AM
So i've been looking toget in to Dream Theater and I was thinking which album to get . . . Im looking for the heavier/faster stuff.

Any Suggestions?

Train of Thought and Octavarium are heavy and fast.

Metropolis pt. II: Scenes from a Memory and Images and Words are the best.( they aren't too heavy)

Mother
04-23-2006, 12:59 AM
Thanks

RideTheSpiral
04-23-2006, 02:03 AM
Scenes From a Memory is way heavier than Octavarium...

heavy metal kid
04-23-2006, 02:37 AM
Scenes From a Memory is way heavier than Octavarium...

well, the heaviest song in SFAM is heavier than the heaviest on Octavarium, but some of the songs on SFAM are softer than 8V like TSCO,Regression and OLT.

Happy
04-23-2006, 09:40 AM
What's heavier than Panic Attack?

Clunge
04-23-2006, 09:53 AM
The start of Honor Thy Father.

Clunge
04-23-2006, 09:55 AM
Scrap that, I didn't read the posts before.

RideTheSpiral
04-23-2006, 09:55 AM
What's heavier than Panic Attack?


Dance of Eternity, Home and Beyond This Life.

ghettoeddo
04-23-2006, 02:36 PM
beyond thsi life trumps panic attack by far imo. it's one of the few songs i know where it's written in an inverse format. ie: the chorus is "softer" than the verses and stuff.
i really dont like panic attack too much. i mcuh prefer never enough.

it looks liek most people are a fan of DT's heavier stuff on these forums. i personally love a lot of their mellower ballads and whatnot.

Shattered_Future
04-23-2006, 03:37 PM
I think the first song I heard by Dream Theater was the first part of Acid Rain. Which, ironically enough, wasn't by Dream Theater...:p

I think the first whole song I heard was Home. Didn't think much of it...a few years later, I found 6DOIT at my library, and took it home and burned it. I think it was The Glass Prison that did it.

Lord Abortion
04-23-2006, 04:46 PM
Hahaha, Beyond this life is ALOT better than Panic attack.

As for first song, I bought I&W without having heard the band before, and was completely blown away simply by the start of Pull me under...

pep
04-23-2006, 05:24 PM
The first song I heard was Home, but I didnt pay enough attention, then Pull me Under did the job of getting me into DT.

GenuineImitation
04-23-2006, 05:41 PM
it looks liek most people are a fan of DT's heavier stuff on these forums. i personally love a lot of their mellower ballads and whatnot.


I enjoy the heavy stuff and the mellower stuff equally.

Tyr
04-23-2006, 05:48 PM
it looks liek most people are a fan of DT's heavier stuff on these forums. i personally love a lot of their mellower ballads and whatnot.
I definitely like their heavier stuff better. The mellow stuff I find to be a little cheesy, but they have some good ballads, too.

Lord Abortion
04-23-2006, 05:53 PM
I personally prefer the ballads, but maybe that's just me.

temporary
04-23-2006, 06:02 PM
The songs that got me into DT were The Glass Prison and Under a Glass Moon (I thought that had some obsession with glass or something.) I remember sitting in this hotel room, just listening to all of The Glass Prison with my jaw hanging open. Then I downloaded Learning to Live, and soon afterwords bought Images and Words. The rest is history...

ghettoeddo
04-23-2006, 07:44 PM
I personally prefer the ballads, but maybe that's just me.


i love their ballads. lovelovelove.
but i love their other works as well. i think they're an all-around all-star power quintet :]

where did it say the DVD was gonna be released in september? i checked theri main site, but nothing. i kinda want evidence so i dont get high hopes, which is also an awesome song by floyd. i digress.

Lord of Sword
04-23-2006, 08:34 PM
Mike said on his forums something about him editing the DVD and that it should be out by late summer. The thread's stickied at mikeportnoy.com still I think.


As for the first DT song I heard, probably all of Scene 2 from SFAM - Overture 1928 and Strange Deja Vu. There were a couple of downloadable MP3s on progarchives.com, and after hearing those songs, along with a few others like the Mirror and SoC, I went out and bought I&W.

Captain Quentin
04-23-2006, 10:53 PM
the first DT song i heard was the whole train of thought album, i instantly loved it. i then bought I&W, which was a HUGE difference to ToT and took a while to grow on me

Happy
04-24-2006, 02:05 AM
First DT song I ever heard was either Glass Prison or SOC. Both impressed the hell out of me and when I got I&W I instantly fell in love with Take The Time and the rest of the album grew on me.

Mr_Bounce
04-24-2006, 02:45 AM
1st song for me was Space Dye Vest, just amazing.

Lord Abortion
04-24-2006, 10:19 AM
It took me a long time to get into Take the time, mainly due to the intro...

red barchetta
04-24-2006, 12:01 PM
first Dt song i heard was The mirror, and i didnt really like it that much. a few weeks later, i heard Metropolis, Take The time and Pull Me Under and started to love them.

But the Dt song that had the most impact on me was Blind faith.

Clunge
04-24-2006, 12:31 PM
My mate sent me Honor Thy Father about a year and a half ago and I hated it. It really just sounded rubbish to me (My tastes were different).

He then sent me Never Enough after 8V came out and it really pulled me in. I got 8V and then went from there.

heavy metal kid
04-24-2006, 03:19 PM
It took me a long time to get into Take the time, mainly due to the intro...


That song is freaking sweet, one of my favorites on I&W, but the intro("Just let me catch my breath"... part) it's so 90's and gay.

Lord Abortion
04-24-2006, 03:20 PM
My thoughts exactly

temporary
04-24-2006, 03:27 PM
Yeah, that kinda turned me off from it the first time I heard it, but as I kept listening I really loved it. Especially those syncronized keys and guitar...

badtaste
04-24-2006, 10:01 PM
Whoa, I just heard 'A Change of Seasons' on the radio. 23 minutes of pure joy.

Lionheart1827
04-24-2006, 10:11 PM
But the Dt song that had the most impact on me was Blind faith.

Ah we meet again Red.

I LOVE THAT SONG! I remember when I got 6DOIT, I listened through it once and not one song stood out. Then a month later I listened to it again, and I noticed Blind Faith stood out so much. It has so much ambience to it, and I love the synth effects Jordan uses, especially in the beginning. Great song.

My first DT song was Erotomania and Metropolis part 1. The intro to Metropolis I actually heard before I even knew about DT because they played it during a b-ball game.:thumb:

bwnstl
04-24-2006, 10:11 PM
That song is freaking sweet, one of my favorites on I&W, but the intro("Just let me catch my breath"... part) it's so 90's and gay.

No gay guys I know talk like that.

Chu
04-24-2006, 10:52 PM
Whoa, I just heard 'A Change of Seasons' on the radio. 23 minutes of pure joy.
That's cool.
A Change of Seasons is the last DT song I'd expect to hear on the radio...

Edit: Oh, I see now, Australian radio... That's cool; we always play the best over here :cool:

Darkness
04-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Holy crap! On the radio?!

Happy
04-25-2006, 02:07 AM
Whoa, I just heard 'A Change of Seasons' on the radio. 23 minutes of pure joy.
What radio stations this?
It sounds awesome.

Lord Abortion
04-25-2006, 12:39 PM
I like Disappear best off the first 6DOIT disk

Happy
04-25-2006, 12:40 PM
Same here.
I figured out the first 3 chords to it :p

Charmand G
04-25-2006, 12:52 PM
Fine musicians that, as many other bands, have made the same record about six or seven times, just backwards and with different hair. I don`t question their ability to play (obvious), but that their songs are very boring and in the middle of all genres at the same time. Scale-wanking and cheesy synths doesn`t do it for me.

Happy
04-25-2006, 12:53 PM
How have they made the same album 6 or 7 times? I think Images & Words and Awake sound similar but every other album is different.

Charmand G
04-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Most likely if you`re very into the band, as I can tell the difference between all of Cannibal Corpse`s albums, while others hear just growl and drums.
The drummer in my band is a sworn fan of DT, so I`ve heard every album. Too clinical, too cheesy, bad vocals, still scale-wanking... It`s the way it tastes to me, but thats what makes good discourses, right. ;)

nowitzki
04-25-2006, 01:01 PM
You probably couldn't have picked a worse example of a band that makes the same record over and over.

Charmand G
04-25-2006, 07:54 PM
If I want complex metal, I think Cryptopsy does it with way more punch and better vocals. :) I saw one of DT`s dvds a while ago, it`s actually most fun when they **** it up, or Portnoy loose a stick, but that`s the action you`ll get. Myung has his pokerface, Portnoy spits around, LaBrie take walks, Rudess swings his keyboard around while staring at his LCD, and Petrucci....yeah, you get the point.

ghettoeddo
04-25-2006, 11:28 PM
music, last time i checked, isn't visual.
sure, it helps to have an engaging live act.
but they do. go to the show...you will NOT be bored.
they're not ... "the who" or maiden or GWAR by any means, but i don't think that would fit the music.

how hard would it be to play what they do jumping around everywhere? i find it difficult to play a single-string riff evenly and cleanly jumping around.

Happy
04-26-2006, 02:07 AM
I'm sure they could jump about, check their really early videos, like when they where in Majesty, even Myung is jumping about, they just chose not to and it doesn't bother me at all.

DimebagDarrell
04-26-2006, 04:30 AM
Hello people..

i have been listening to dream theater alot lately again and i wouldnt mind knowing what album to get next, i have train of thought, metropolis: scenes, images and words and awake.

Out of those ones i like ToT and metropolis the most

so if you can help it wouldbe much appreciated cheers

nowitzki
04-26-2006, 04:33 AM
I'd go for Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

Laztec
04-26-2006, 08:32 AM
I'm sure they could jump about, check their really early videos, like when they where in Majesty, even Myung is jumping about, they just chose not to and it doesn't bother me at all.


Woah, where can I get that video?

Charmand G
04-26-2006, 10:11 AM
Woah, where can I get that video?

Yeah, me too. I`m interested. I`v seen Spiral Arcitect moving around heavily onstage, so I suppose DT could do it to. Whatever, the main concern is the music, and I don`t like it. It`s very simple.

Happy
04-26-2006, 10:21 AM
Woah, where can I get that video?
I'm not sure, I think they played it at one of their gigs and parts of it is on the 2nd DVD of LATB I believe.

nowitzki
04-26-2006, 10:32 AM
They're pretty active on I&W: Live in Tokyo.

RideTheSpiral
04-26-2006, 11:04 AM
I'm not sure, I think they played it at one of their gigs and parts of it is on the 2nd DVD of LATB I believe.


Yeah JM is going crazy its pretty funny.

bwnstl
04-26-2006, 11:21 AM
Yeah, me too. I`m interested. I`v seen Spiral Arcitect moving around heavily onstage, so I suppose DT could do it to. Whatever, the main concern is the music, and I don`t like it. It`s very simple.

My main concern is that you came in here bashing DT because all their albums sound the same, when that is obviously not the case. People who first get into DT usually have one (maybe two) favorite album and it takes them a little while to fully get into the other albums, simply because they all sound fairly different from each other.
Oh, and the other problem is you saying they have bad vocals, when LaBrie is one of the best singers in rock.

Happy
04-26-2006, 11:24 AM
His voice is a bit of an aquired taste. There's plenty of people out there who say they like DT until the vocals kick in.

ghettoeddo
04-26-2006, 06:20 PM
My main concern is that you came in here bashing DT because all their albums sound the same, when that is obviously not the case. People who first get into DT usually have one (maybe two) favorite album and it takes them a little while to fully get into the other albums, simply because they all sound fairly different from each other.
Oh, and the other problem is you saying they have bad vocals, when LaBrie is one of the best singers in rock.

it is true that none of their albums are even remotely similar.
but for every one of us that love em, there are gonna be 10 more that hate em. that's the fun of music eh?

i think a lot of people shy away from em (although they wont admit this) because they're considered the benchmark prog metal band and are much more mainstream and known on the prog scene than most any other band.
there still seems to be this pervasive "avoid mainstream" kinda attitude around here

Happy
04-27-2006, 02:05 AM
Which kind of sucks seeing as mainstream can still be good.
DT may be one of the most mainstream prog bands but they're nowhere near popular.

ghettoeddo
04-27-2006, 02:25 AM
yea...
i mean...a band is mainstream because it appeals to a large # of people. yeayeayea the mass can't think for themselves or know anything about music. but that's why dream theater remains unknown to "the mass."

i think DT's comin into that scene w/ songs like i walk beside you. i really do hope they get more attention cuz i feel they really deserve it. i wouldn't mind them "selling out" a little bit as long as they didn't stray too far.

nowitzki
04-27-2006, 03:50 AM
i wouldn't mind them "selling out" a little bit as long as they didn't stray too far.
As long as they don't do a complete Genesis-style U-turn.... although I can't see that happening.

Happy
04-27-2006, 04:17 AM
DT would never sell out like Genesis.
I heard they're popular in Japan.

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 06:01 AM
Intrumedley on Budokan

:shock:

I really love DT atm. I'm going to buy SFAM and ToT soon. Just for keeps.

The Sandman
04-27-2006, 06:27 AM
The Instrumedley's brilliant.

I love circus music.

\m/

Happy
04-27-2006, 09:05 AM
I'm trying to learn it. Trés hard.

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 04:32 PM
Whats everyones favorite DT riff/solo/song to play on the guitar? My favorite riff is either the Ytse Jam intro or Metropolis Part 1.

Happy
04-27-2006, 04:36 PM
YTSE jame definitely. and the Afterlife riff.

temporary
04-27-2006, 04:41 PM
DT would never sell out like Genesis.
I heard they're popular in Japan.

Yeah, DT's one of those bands that a lot bigger in Europe/Asia than in the States. And Genesis only sold out cause Gabriel left the band in Collins' control...

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 04:41 PM
Ytse Jam is just so fun to play. Its fairly simple but sounds great.

temporary
04-27-2006, 04:43 PM
I've actually never bothered to learn Ytse, I should...

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 04:46 PM
mysongbook.com has some pretty accurate tabs if you want to learn.

red barchetta
04-27-2006, 05:29 PM
Erotomania is pretty fun too. as is most of Stream of Consciesness

Chu
04-27-2006, 05:44 PM
Whats everyones favorite DT riff/solo/song to play on the guitar? My favorite riff is either the Ytse Jam intro or Metropolis Part 1.
Could be The Glass Prison (The intro wah riff is just secks, and to be able to play it properly, after a long time trying :cool: ), can't do much more of the song though.

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 05:46 PM
Could be The Glass Prison (The intro wah riff is just secks, and to be able to play it properly, after a long time trying :cool: ), can't do much more of the song though.


I can play the intro as well, but it doesnt sound right because I dont own a Wah pedal. As for the rest of the song, I never attempted to learn it.


NP: DT - Home

Charmand G
04-27-2006, 06:21 PM
My main concern is that you came in here bashing DT because all their albums sound the same, when that is obviously not the case. People who first get into DT usually have one (maybe two) favorite album and it takes them a little while to fully get into the other albums, simply because they all sound fairly different from each other.
Oh, and the other problem is you saying they have bad vocals, when LaBrie is one of the best singers in rock.

Well, "bashing" is unavoidable when taste is subjective. :) I own "Awake", which has some good riffs in it, and I`ve borrowed "Images and Words", "Scenes from a memory", I copied "Six Degrees.." (also some cool moments), borrowed "Train..." and "Octavarium", and I`ve seen "Budokan"- and "Scenes..."-DVD, and I still didn`t find anything more I liked. At least I gave them a serious try, as opposed to alot of people slagging of black/speed/death-metal cause all they hear is "noise". As for listening to prog, I`d still rather go for Spiral Arcitect or Pagans Mind.

And I still think LaBrie sounds too nice and Iron Maiden-sk (not my cup of tea), and too constrained almost all the time. ....on the other hand, I don`t know what other singer who could be in Dream Theater. It couldn`t be a showman, thats for sure, it would ruin the balance.

Lord of Sword
04-27-2006, 06:28 PM
Whats everyones favorite DT riff/solo/song to play on the guitar? My favorite riff is either the Ytse Jam intro or Metropolis Part 1.

I like playing the UAGM solo, or what I can play of it at least. Loads of trademark Petrucci licks and all the whammy-bar stuff just makes it fun to play, aswell as being one of my favourite solos of his.

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 06:39 PM
Does anyone have any of their Bootleg shows?
Maybe the cover album ones. Like Number of the Beast of Dark Side of The Moon

Anyone?

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 06:40 PM
Does anyone have any of their Bootleg shows?
Maybe the cover album ones. Like Number of the Beast of Dark Side of The Moon

Anyone?


I ahve the Number of the Beast somewhere. Do you have an AIM? If so IM me at rock15guitarist

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 06:44 PM
I ahve the Number of the Beast somewhere. Do you have an AIM? If so IM me at rock15guitarist

I only have msn..Can't you upload it please...or is there another way?

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 06:45 PM
I only have msn..Can't you upload it please...or is there another way?


I'll YSI it. Whats your email?

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 06:47 PM
mulletwarrior@webmail.co.za

thanks dhood. But didn't the rules change at YSI. You can only upload 50mb. How big is this?

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 06:51 PM
mulletwarrior@webmail.co.za

thanks dhood. But didn't the rules change at YSI. You can only upload 50mb. How big is this?


The rules changed? I can try it anyway.

EDIT: It seems to be uploading fine. Expect it in your mailbox soon.

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 06:52 PM
The rules changed? I can try it anyway.

no please. Leave it. I'm not allowed to d/l atm so, thanks, but another time,hey?:thumb:

Thanks anyway.

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 06:58 PM
no please. Leave it. I'm not allowed to d/l atm so, thanks, but another time,hey?:thumb:

Thanks anyway.


Ok. The site crashed as I was uploading it. Just remind me when you can download it.

Prince of Darkness
04-27-2006, 07:54 PM
Stream of Conciousness on Budokan is mindblowing.

:eek:

bwnstl
04-27-2006, 08:06 PM
Well, "bashing" is unavoidable when taste is subjective. :) I own "Awake", which has some good riffs in it, and I`ve borrowed "Images and Words", "Scenes from a memory", I copied "Six Degrees.." (also some cool moments), borrowed "Train..." and "Octavarium", and I`ve seen "Budokan"- and "Scenes..."-DVD, and I still didn`t find anything more I liked. At least I gave them a serious try, as opposed to alot of people slagging of black/speed/death-metal cause all they hear is "noise". As for listening to prog, I`d still rather go for Spiral Arcitect or Pagans Mind.

And I still think LaBrie sounds too nice and Iron Maiden-sk (not my cup of tea), and too constrained almost all the time. ....on the other hand, I don`t know what other singer who could be in Dream Theater. It couldn`t be a showman, thats for sure, it would ruin the balance.

That's cool, I appreciate that you have actually listened to them and decided you don't like them rather than being an ignoramus about it. I just wanted to point that their albums are vastly different and that (whether you like his vocal style or not), Labrie is very talented.

Would it be too much to ask for you to send me a song or two by Spiral Architect or Pagan's Mind? I've been wanting to check them out but can't find any of their stuff anywhere.

GenuineImitation
04-27-2006, 08:18 PM
That's cool, I appreciate that you have actually listened to them and decided you don't like them rather than being an ignoramus about it. I just wanted to point that their albums are vastly different and that (whether you like his vocal style or not), Labrie is very talented.

Would it be too much to ask for you to send me a song or two by Spiral Architect or Pagan's Mind? I've been wanting to check them out but can't find any of their stuff anywhere.


I can send you some Spiral Architect tomorrow.

Chu
04-27-2006, 08:18 PM
I have Dream Theater's Master of Puppets performance (Like one mp3.. 58mb..), but also they're cover of Orion (Plus a little thing they do after the song), which is about 10.8mb.

bwnstl
04-27-2006, 10:26 PM
I can send you some Spiral Architect tomorrow.

F'in A, thank you man.

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

ghettoeddo
04-28-2006, 01:30 AM
Well, "bashing" is unavoidable when taste is subjective. :) I own "Awake", which has some good riffs in it, and I`ve borrowed "Images and Words", "Scenes from a memory", I copied "Six Degrees.." (also some cool moments), borrowed "Train..." and "Octavarium", and I`ve seen "Budokan"- and "Scenes..."-DVD, and I still didn`t find anything more I liked. At least I gave them a serious try, as opposed to alot of people slagging of black/speed/death-metal cause all they hear is "noise". As for listening to prog, I`d still rather go for Spiral Arcitect or Pagans Mind.

And I still think LaBrie sounds too nice and Iron Maiden-sk (not my cup of tea), and too constrained almost all the time. ....on the other hand, I don`t know what other singer who could be in Dream Theater. It couldn`t be a showman, thats for sure, it would ruin the balance.

fair enough. respek for you my friend. respek.
personally, i don't like pagan's mind at all. but there we go, eh?

my favorite DT lick to play at the moment is either the ending solo in 8vm, "never enough" or the home licks :] it's also MP's daughter's (melody) favorite song. he said so on the commmentary for metropolis 2000 DVD

Lionheart1827
04-28-2006, 01:31 AM
or the home licks :] it's also MP's daughter's (melody) favorite song. he said so on the commmentary for metropolis 2000 DVD

Yup :D She likes the nanny nanny poo poo melody.:thumb:

ghettoeddo
04-28-2006, 02:02 AM
Stream of Conciousness on Budokan is mindblowing.

:eek:

i really can't seem to enjoy that song that much :\
disappear taht comes right after it is much more impressive to me.

Happy
04-28-2006, 02:04 AM
SOC is second to Disappear as my favourite on LATB.
My friend saw the SOC solo and was like :eek:

ghettoeddo
04-28-2006, 02:22 AM
haha yea it's crazy fast. a little sloppy live though. but...well they aren't machines.

i still prefer solos that seem to be more thought-out than shred at the speed of light.
wont be back for awhile, prom comin up :] peace

Happy
04-28-2006, 03:26 AM
I like it live. I think it sounds better.

Charmand G
04-28-2006, 03:35 AM
That's cool, I appreciate that you have actually listened to them and decided you don't like them rather than being an ignoramus about it. I just wanted to point that their albums are vastly different and that (whether you like his vocal style or not), Labrie is very talented.

Would it be too much to ask for you to send me a song or two by Spiral Architect or Pagan's Mind? I've been wanting to check them out but can't find any of their stuff anywhere.

Did you get some Spiral A.? Unfortunatley, I don`t possess my Pagans Mind-cd`s at the moment, they`re cardboardboxes being transported to my current appartement, but I still have Spiral A. on my computer, so I can send you a song or two.

Basically, I HAD to check DT out `cause of my drummer`s constant raving about them, but we belong in different genres. He`s more Iron Maiden, Trivium, Stratovarius...and I`m more into Cannibal Corpse, Satyricon, Marduk, Bolt Thrower etc., which he can`t stand. But I appreciate the drum-techniques he aquires by listening to Portnoy. Oh, and we came to an agreement that we can meet over Opeth. Be both like them. :chug:

badtaste
04-28-2006, 05:32 AM
What radio stations this?
It sounds awesome.

Sorry for the extremely late reply but better than no reply at all (I don't visit this place often, as you can tell from my post count).

Yeh, I heard it on triple RRR 102.7 (this is Australian radio, of course, but maybe you can hear it on the internet). Probably a one off though.

And yeah, very, very, very odd to hear it on radio.

Prince of Darkness
04-28-2006, 09:10 AM
I just bought ToT.

After watching Budokan I knew I had to do it.
My DT collection is growing...If got Awake, ToT, Octavarium and 2 dvd's...

But I have all the albums mp3's, but I'm buying all the originals.

Lord Abortion
04-28-2006, 10:23 AM
Yeah, DT's one of those bands that a lot bigger in Europe/Asia than in the States. And Genesis only sold out cause Gabriel left the band in Collins' control...
Exactly, Peter Gabriel Genesis is great, Collins era is awful.

Hollywood Rose
04-28-2006, 12:32 PM
hockey_rocks04@hotmail.com

Upload me that shi too.

Rattlehead
04-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Exactly, Peter Gabriel Genesis is great, Collins era is awful.
Genesis? Trick of the Tale is the only album i like. bit dated though.

bwnstl
04-28-2006, 03:33 PM
Did you get some Spiral A.? Unfortunatley, I don`t possess my Pagans Mind-cd`s at the moment, they`re cardboardboxes being transported to my current appartement, but I still have Spiral A. on my computer, so I can send you a song or two.


Nah, haven't gotten it yet. I'd much appreciate it if you could send some to bjwumr at gmail dot com

Charmand G
04-28-2006, 09:17 PM
Heya! I`ve just posted you two songs. Hope you`ll enjoy them. Maybe not the two best, but it was those who fitted one mail.

Cheers!:chug:

Shattered_Future
04-28-2006, 09:46 PM
I just got a Genesis album my friend converted for me...Trespass, it's called.

I gotta absorb it later...I haven't actually heard any Genesis, but I remember my dad listening to Peter Gabriel on long car rides. Rather messed up, but absolutely amazing.

HNLzero
04-28-2006, 09:47 PM
Grr when does this DVD come out.

nowitzki
04-28-2006, 09:47 PM
Genesis? Trick of the Tale is the only album i like. bit dated though.
Early Genesis is really wonderful music, I'd recommend checking out Selling England By The Pound and Foxtrot.