Dream Theater

[^Dream~Theater^]

I would kill tons of people to see Tool and DT do a tour together.

John Myung is a big fan of Tool too, which astonished me a little actually.

Seriously, a Tool and DT tour would just...rock so hard it isn't even funny
I was thinking of a DT/Rush tour. They said one of their dreams is to tour with Rush someday.

[Quebec]

or metallica and dt. they're signed to the same label (elektra), so why not? i would give all my money and my left nut for tickets to that.
Metallica and Dream Theater? Are you Kidding? I like the old metallica but Those they really don't fit together....

Yeah a tour with Rush would be great! The did one with yes, so why not?

[MAthiAS]

I could see Rush and DT. DT toured with Yes, and they all say Rush is a big influence, so its definitely possible.

[Speedy Fingers]

I'm more for a DT and Symphony X tour. I'd probably have a heart attack.

[MAthiAS]

DT/Rush > DT/Symphony X > DT/Tool

[RiceMonster]

I'm more for a DT and Symphony X tour. I'd probably have a heart attack.
That would be the best. I would pick up tickets as I could.

[Speedy Fingers]

DT/Rush > DT/Symphony X > DT/Tool
Actually....yeah, you're right.

[3rdplanet]

Dream Theater and Pain of Salvation.

Now that's a line up :D

[MAthiAS]

My guitar teacher said the first time he saw/heard of DT they were opening up for Maiden... I envy him.

[Speedy Fingers]

God **** it, that'd be amazing to see them together.

[Verikansa]

im new to dream theater i like them....alot i still think tremontis better but petruccis really good too.

anyway can someone name some songs by them i have pull me under and as i am pull me under i love and as i am is ok

[The JoZ]

DT/Rush > DT/Symphony X > DT/Tool

Totally disagree.

IMO, Rush is too soft to play with DT. You'd get the older people going who love Rush's classic stuff, and then Dream Theater would open up with "As I Am" and blow them away. The metal heads would not like Rush nearly as much, and the Rush-heads would not stand for heavy Dream Theater.

Symphony X playing with DT would be, well, if one band played instead of two. Sure, SX's stuff does not EXACTLY sound like Dream Theater's, but the point is that both bands are technically proficient in their playing, so to anyone who doesn't like it, it would seem like a complete and utter wank fest.

Tool playing with Dream Theater...well, they play progressive metal in a totally different way than Dream Theater does. Whereas Dream Theater emphasize technical prowess, Tool utilize compartively simple, but yet complex, rhythms and song structures to create their songs. Tool and Dream Theater both have heavy material, so they would both appeal to metal heads, neither has that classic prog rock appeal, so nobody wanting Rush would be disgusted by the wall of Petrucci distortion, and you'd get alot more variety than if you had SX playing with them :cool:

I realize I've made generalizations in that, and I don't care, I'm not being totally serious, except the part about Tool being a better fit than the others. And I like Rush and what little SX I have heard, so don't think I'm just slagging off on them. :thumb:

[Verikansa]

Totally disagree.

IMO, Rush is too soft to play with DT. You'd get the older people going who love Rush's classic stuff, and then Dream Theater would open up with "As I Am" and blow them away. The metal heads would not like Rush nearly as much, and the Rush-heads would not stand for heavy Dream Theater.

Symphony X playing with DT would be, well, if one band played instead of two. Sure, SX's stuff does not EXACTLY sound like Dream Theater's, but the point is that both bands are technically proficient in their playing, so to anyone who doesn't like it, it would seem like a complete and utter wank fest.

Tool playing with Dream Theater...well, they play progressive metal in a totally different way than Dream Theater does. Whereas Dream Theater emphasize technical prowess, Tool utilize compartively simple, but yet complex, rhythms and song structures to create their songs. Tool and Dream Theater both have heavy material, so they would both appeal to metal heads, neither has that classic prog rock appeal, so nobody wanting Rush would be disgusted by the wall of Petrucci distortion, and you'd get alot more variety than if you had SX playing with them :cool:

I realize I've made generalizations in that, and I don't care, I'm not being totally serious, except the part about Tool being a better fit than the others. And I like Rush and what little SX I have heard, so don't think I'm just slagging off on them. :thumb:
when i listen to muse i actlually picture DT in my head i dunno why i guess they have simmilar qualities

[Speedy Fingers]

Muse....and Dream Theater?? Don't get me wrong...Muse is the band that got me into what I love today, but they are nothing alike. The styles of each band are totally different.

[3rdplanet]

If you go on the John Petrucci forums, you will find most of the fans on there are Dream Theater *duh* and Opeth fans.

Would a tour like that work?

[Verikansa]

Muse....and Dream Theater?? Don't get me wrong...Muse is the band that got me into what I love today, but they are nothing alike. The styles of each band are totally different.
i should clarify it the high pitched guitaring in muse is like petruccis high pitched :p

[MAthiAS]

Opeth and DT would be sick!

[3rdplanet]

^ That's what I was thinking aswell, couldn't see it happening though.

Who have Dream Theater toured with? Fate's Warning, Beatallica, any others?

[Shadius]

If Tool and DT did a tour together I would HAVE to go, no matter the cost.

However, I don't think they run in the same circles, although they're both progressive-ish they're pretty much at different ends of the spectrum. Rhythm based vs. Virtuoso.

Shame though, it would be an unbelievable tour.

[Quebec]

sorry to interrupt this interesting discussion

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#g3jpmp
John Petrucci, Steve vai, joe satriani G3 shows (with Mike Portnoy And Dave Larue) announced... Lucky Bastards!

[Speedy Fingers]

^ That's what I was thinking aswell, couldn't see it happening though.

Who have Dream Theater toured with? Fate's Warning, Beatallica, any others?
Yes, Vanden Plas, and some more....

[Verikansa]

sorry to interrupt this interesting discussion

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#g3jpmp
John Petrucci, Steve vai, joe satriani G3 shows (with Mike Portnoy And Dave Larue) announced... Lucky Bastards!
NOOOOOOO!!!!! im going to london on april 18 but im going to miss the tour in london on april 30 ****IT!!

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Opeth and DT would be sick!
*orgasm*

OH MY GOD!!!! I would seriously pay 100 bucks for that concert

[sbgFX]

Slightly off topic... Any drummers here?... Any drummers who have also seen Live at the Budokan?.. Any drummers who watched the drum solo?... Any drummers who'd forfeit all of their worldly possessions to sit at his 'Siamese Twin' kit to PLAY WITH MIKE?? LOL... The guy on the DVD blew it hehe.. Bothered me. I'd have gone absolutely bananas on that kit. My one chance, you know? LOL

[3rdplanet]

^ Tell me about it man :(

Although I didn't like the solo Portnoy played, but the kit was a beast.

[shamed-angel]

LTE opening for DT would be sick. It'd never happen though. DT and Pain of Salvation would be amazing also.

[Prince of Darkness]

NOOOOOOO!!!!! im going to london on april 18 but im going to miss the tour in london on april 30 ****IT!!

Ha. I would like to catch that, altough I dont like the Newest Material that much, actually, I hate it.
Compared to Something like Images and Words or Awake, or even Scenes from a Memory, It really sucks.My fav. is Images and Words, and then maby SFAM, but from then on, Albums like Six Degrees or Train of Thought, its to different. That's one thing I hate about oldish metal or just rock bands, they all seem to turn sour in the end. They try be stay too ''Hip'' and ''Happening''. Like Metallica, WTF? Short hair, clean shaves, runningshoes, and baggy pants. Not at all cool for a metal band. What we need is a change, back to the old days. Tight pants, Long hair and, hell, throw in a Father Christmas beard, I mean why the f*ck not? thats where metal started and thats how it should stay.Traditional. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

Dream Theater didn't sell out with those albums, thats just the music they made.

[Prince of Darkness]

and the music they made turned out to be crap. Petrucci really isnt the best songwriter in the world, but somehow I&W and SRAM turned out fine. Whats wrong with the new Stuff? DT turned sour.

[BradyEB]

Opeth and DT would be sick!

\m/ to that.

[MAthiAS]

and the music they made turned out to be crap. Petrucci really isnt the best songwriter in the world, but somehow I&W and SRAM turned out fine. Whats wrong with the new Stuff? DT turned sour.
He writes some great lyrics, and what do you think he was doing on the albums you like? Not writing?

ToT is great, As I Am is a great song, Endless Sacrifice has an amazing chorus and some great vocals from Labrie, Honor thy Father is okay, Stream of Conciousness is DT's best instrumental IMO, and In the Name of God is one of my favorite DT songs, amazing solo and some great riffage.

[3rdplanet]

I agree, ToT is a fantastic album, there seem to be two camps involved with Dream Theater, the 'Classical' fans, and the 'Modern' fans. Or at least people say they have a preference for one period over the other.

I'm glad to say I'm a fan of both.

[MAthiAS]

I'm glad to say I'm a fan of both.
Same here.

[Mr Benners]

ME TOO :D:D:D

I never realised there were so many of us.

[wrathchild88]

i'm sorry to say that i havnt heard any dream theatre (stupid british tv doesnt show them) so i want to know what you guys think is their best album

[3rdplanet]

^ Tell me about it :( Though I don't think they have that much coverage in America, and I only know of one Video, and that's for the radio edit of Lie.

I personally love Awake, and if you are coming to Dream Theater from a sort of Pink Floyd/Yes/King Crimson musical taste I would say listen to stuff off that first.

If you are coming at it from more of a metal style taste, try Train og Thought.

[^Dream~Theater^]

and the music they made turned out to be crap. Petrucci really isnt the best songwriter in the world, but somehow I&W and SRAM turned out fine. Whats wrong with the new Stuff? DT turned sour.
Your opinion, stop trying to force that opinion onto others.

[Quebec]

NOOOOOOO!!!!! im going to london on april 18 but im going to miss the tour in london on april 30 ****IT!!
But thats just the "element of persuation" tour, James LaBrie solo project

[Quebec]

I agree, ToT is a fantastic album, there seem to be two camps involved with Dream Theater, the 'Classical' fans, and the 'Modern' fans. Or at least people say they have a preference for one period over the other.

I'm glad to say I'm a fan of both.
:thumb: me too

[MAthiAS]

I only know of one Video, and that's for the radio edit of Lie.

I saw a video for Pull Me Under once. Their singles kind of suck because they cut out parts, usually keyboard parts.

On ToT again, I got ToT first, and I actually doubt that I would've liked Images and Words if I hadn't first heard DT's other stuff.

[^Dream~Theater^]

They also have a video for Another Day.

[3rdplanet]

I saw a video for Pull Me Under once. Their singles kind of suck because they cut out parts, usually keyboard parts.

On ToT again, I got ToT first, and I actually doubt that I would've liked Images and Words if I hadn't first heard DT's other stuff.

Ah I think I was being biased 'cause Awake was my first album, so yeah I spose it can go either way.

So that's 3 videos.

[MAthiAS]

I think there's a video for Take the Time. Never saw it on TV, it was on one of their DVDs.

[Quebec]

Top 100 album competition results

11. Dream Theater - Images and Words (25)
32. Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (30)
47. Dream Theater - Train Of Thought (14)
79. Dream Theater – Awake (15)

[MAthiAS]

Meh, Awake > ToT IMO.

Images and Words is about where it should be, maybe a little low, but its up there at least.

[pigonthewing82]

What would you say a good Dream Theater cd to start out on would be?

[back to the front]

I started with ToT but like SFAM the most. Images and Words might be a good place to start.

[pigonthewing82]

I started with ToT but like SFAM the most. Images and Words might be a good place to start.

Thanks :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

I started on ToT, then Images and Words, then 6DoiT, then SFAM, then Awake, then A Change of Seasons, then FII and WDADU.

[G_Mac07]

I started with Awake, then ToT, and then I&W. :thumb:

[Reidie86]

i got them in this order:
awake
images and words
scenes from a memory
A change of seasons
train of thought
falling into infinity

i love all of them, yes even FiF. my fav's would have to be images and words and SFAM tho

[The JoZ]

My order is totally screwed up :thumb:

Train of Thought
Images and Words
Six Degrees
Awake
Scenes From a Memory
When Dream and Day Unite
Falling Into Infinity
A Change of Seasons

I'm listening to ACOS for the first time now...and it's pretty good so far, I'm 20 minutes in, almost done!

[Reidie86]

My order is totally screwed up :thumb:

Train of Thought
Images and Words
Six Degrees
Awake
Scenes From a Memory
When Dream and Day Unite
Falling Into Infinity
A Change of Seasons

I'm listening to ACOS for the first time now...and it's pretty good so far, I'm 20 minutes in, almost done!

the first few times i listened to ACOS, i thaught it was good, but after you listen through it a few times, u realise its bloody awsome

[BradyEB]

So true. Do you like it more live or studio?

[sbgFX]

I'm more of a fan of studio. The only time I can handle live stuff, is video format, but I hate to say James' voice tends to be less *thinks of a word*... ....refined..? His voice annoys me sometimes [live recordings] but otherwise I love live DT videos. :)

[MAthiAS]

I agree... I don't buy live CDs, only DVDs. Its live, I want to see it too, ya know.

[shamed-angel]

Hey could anyone do me a favour? Tell me the name of the unplugged song on the 5 years dvd. The one that goes "Tell me what your thinking, Tell em what your feeling inside." I just have no idea what the song could be. Any help would be much appreciated.

[Quebec]

Hey could anyone do me a favour? Tell me the name of the unplugged song on the 5 years dvd. The one that goes "Tell me what your thinking, Tell em what your feeling inside." I just have no idea what the song could be. Any help would be much appreciated.
Maybe it's "cover my eyes" (unreleased Falling Into Infinity Demo)

[MAthiAS]

Only acoustic DT song I know of is The Silent Man, but its not that. Sorry.

[MNbassist78]

Hey could anyone do me a favour? Tell me the name of the unplugged song on the 5 years dvd. The one that goes "Tell me what your thinking, Tell em what your feeling inside." I just have no idea what the song could be. Any help would be much appreciated.

Its called Speak to Me, which is on the '99 fan club CD.

[ace_of_bass]

Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?

[Tails]

I got the albums in this order:
ToT
Awake
Scenes From a Memory
A Change of Seasons
When Dream and Day Unite
I have burned copies of Images and Words and 6 Degrees.
The only Album I haven't heard in full is FiF

Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?

Just a heads up, Images and Words is nothing like Train of Thought, so don't be expecting it. It isn't nearly as heavy, but it is an amazing album, much better that Train of Though IMO.
I'm not sure about the status of their next album, I heard a rumor a while back that they might be writing parts of it now but I'm not certain. They do have a few dates for Europe this summer at a couple festivals and I'm not sure about any other dates they have planned for this year.

[MAthiAS]

If you like the heavy stuff, you might be better off with 6DoiT or SFAM rather than Images and Words. Unless you're open minded like that. Oh yeah, and Petrucci's got his CD coming out soon.

[3rdplanet]

Hey hey guys. After hearing so much buzz about Dream Theater on these forums I decided to go out and experience some of the magic for myself, so I got Train of Thought, and I love it. Its so good it makes my head hurt just listening to how good they are. I'm gonna get Images and Words next. Do you guys know if they're coming out with a new album, or better yet, if they're touring any time soon?

Good to see you like the 'Theater. Nexy best release for you would probably be 6DoIT, or Scenes from a Memory.

And seeing as you're a new fan, make sure you talk about the technique only in moderation. People will just bash you if all you say is how fast they play or whatever. Sorry if that sounds nasty. Just some advice to escape the 'musically enlightened' know it alls.

[MAthiAS]

And seeing as you're a new fan, make sure you talk about the technique only in moderation. People will just bash you if all you say is how fast they play or whatever. Sorry if that sounds nasty. Just some advice to escape the 'musically enlightened' know it alls.
:lol: How true...

[Lord Abortion]

I've never posted ITT before as I hadn't heard DT before...

I bought images and words on a whim today and was blown away
I will buy all the dream theater albums I can get my hands on
Jesus this band are good...

[Iron Man]

Jesus this band are good...

That sentence are sick!

[3rdplanet]

Images and Words is just amazing.

[BradyEB]

^Must pick it up.
Im just wonderring do any of you guys have a band that covers a DT song and if so what song?
I'm just Interested.

[The JoZ]

I would love to cover The Glass Prison in my band, but it would be a bitch to learn :(

[The JoZ]

Oh yeah, if you really like ToT, the best album to get after that IMO is Awake

[BradyEB]

I would love to cover The Glass Prison in my band, but it would be a bitch to learn :(

Man the middle section would rule so much if you did \m/
A guitarist in my Power/thrash with Death and Heavy metal influence wants to play Pull Me under. Im not really into the idea much thou.

[Burdcheese]

Got/watched the Budokan DVD today.

That was amazing.
It really shows how ridiculously talented those guys are - and also really personable in the backstage extras.

I wish I was the kid who got to go up and drum with Mike :(

[The JoZ]

Man the middle section would rule so much if you did \m/
A guitarist in my Power/thrash with Death and Heavy metal influence wants to play Pull Me under. Im not really into the idea much thou.

Yeah, naturally, that's the section I can't play.

I can't play the triplets in the breakdown, and I can't play the solo section. I can play 9/10's of everything else though, on bass.

Meh.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I want my band to play "As I am"...what's amusing is that my lead singer sounds like Eddie Vedder, so, I don't know how it would work. I can play it...kinda, up to the real fast part, its something I am eventually gonna get, but I really dont want to tune my B string to C to play it...so, I might just play it low.

Though, Glass Prison would be amazing...god, that song owns me! I hope you can do it Joz!

[The JoZ]

I tune my B string up to a C all the time, it's really no big deal, even on bass.

I'm not sure if The Glass Prison will ever happen though, because I don't know if anyone can learn the solo section...and even if we did, we don't have a keyboardist, and more than likely never will...these guys are more into melodic metal / metalcore than prog, so...

I still plan to try and keep learning at least the bass to TGP though :cool:

[Cain]

I tune my B string up to a C all the time, it's really no big deal, even on bass.

I'm not sure if The Glass Prison will ever happen though, because I don't know if anyone can learn the solo section...and even if we did, we don't have a keyboardist, and more than likely never will...these guys are more into melodic metal / metalcore than prog, so...

I still plan to try and keep learning at least the bass to TGP though :cool:

The keyboard breaks just after the unison solos have some of the craziest DT bass playing that ever made it into the mix. Good luck with that.

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#summer2005

Another date confirmed for the 2005/2006 tour
June 12th - Buchholz Footballstadium - Zurich, Switzerland
(Appearing with Iron Maiden)

[The JoZ]

The keyboard breaks just after the unison solos have some of the craziest DT bass playing that ever made it into the mix. Good luck with that.


Are you referring to the little interlude between John and John where Rudess and Portnoy drop out for like a few bars before going into that heavy pre-outro?

[Cain]

Are you referring to the little interlude between John and John where Rudess and Portnoy drop out for like a few bars before going into that heavy pre-outro?

No, I'm talking about the little keyboard breaks after the solos that go Petrucci-Rudess-Petrucci-Rudess -Petrucci/Rudess. The countermelodies Myung is playing against Rudess in those sections are incredible.

[Tails]

No, I'm talking about the little keyboard breaks after the solos that go Petrucci-Rudess-Petrucci-Rudess -Petrucci/Rudess. The countermelodies Myung is playing against Rudess in those sections are incredible.

The part right in around the 11 minute area?
If so, that is some nice bass work in there.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify

[Quebec]

I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify
I don't think anyone is pissed at him. I just think that Myung is more poetic than the other members, and sometimes it can get hard to incorporate this into a band when your not the leader.

But no one knows, he doesn't talk really often!

[Tails]

I have a question:

Are they all pissed at Myung? They did Liquid Tension w/o him. They rejected his songs because they weren't fully structured right for them. Is there dissention amongst the ranks? is he going to leave a la Kevin Moore?

I'm not a 100% sure about all this, maybe someone could clarify

They never did LTE purposely without him.

LTE was originally Portnoy's side project from DT. He couldn't find a guitarist that he wanted to work with and his wife suggested that he use Petrucci because the two of them work so well together. When LTE formed, Rudess was still working with the Dixie Dreggs if I'm not mistaken. After working with Rudess, when Sherinian was out of the band, Jordan was an obvious choice.

It just became a stroke of luck that 3 members of DT happened to be in LTE.

After one of the more recent albums they had a rule set down that if you were to submit lyrics, they had to have a natural flow to them so that they did not have to spend time working with them to try and make some sense of of them for a song. Myung had written generally abstract and non flowing poetry for them to use as lyrics and Petrucci and Portnoy had to sit down and work a song out of it. They still accept all lyrics that come their way, Myung has just never submitted any since.

[Quebec]

Myung had written generally abstract and non flowing poetry for them to use as lyrics
That's true. Just take a look at "lifting shadows off a dream"

[Deth]

I've just gotten my first DT album (Awake) and it's pretty awesome. Any suggestions for next one? Note: my favorite song off it is Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
(sorry to break the flow of the thread)

[shawnson]

go for images and words. definitely some of their best work. then get a change of seasons or six degrees of inner turbulence.

[the2stranger]

I've just gotten my first DT album (Awake) and it's pretty awesome. Any suggestions for next one? Note: my favorite song off it is Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
(sorry to break the flow of the thread)

Images and words :thumb:

too bad Myung has withdrawn completely from submitting lyrics (or poetry)
I really like his work, example: learning to live.

and I thought Moore had some awesome lyrics as well, I wish he would contibute some lyrics once more. just lyrics no playing.
it's just that I really enjoy his writing style.
but I don't really like OSI, I wish I did :upset:

[Deth]

geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.

[the2stranger]

geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.


yw

enjoy your stay :)

[Deth]

whoa, I just learned scarred and 6:00 on bass. good times. An hour well spent.

[Tails]

geez, first you help me with Opeth, now with DT, looks like I have my first Musicianforums buddy. Thanks, IaW it is.

After Images and Words, definately get Scenes from a Memory.

[Deth]

well that brings my wnated CD list to a total of....more than I can possibly afford. Thanks guys.

[mprules]

After Images and Words, definately get Scenes from a Memory.
nah go in order, awake rules, every song on it is great

[MAthiAS]

nah go in order, awake rules, every song on it is great
The guy already has Awake.

[Deth]

yes I do, and yes, it does rule.

[Quebec]

hey guys check this out http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=760480
It's a guy on the MP forum who recorded the Blind Faith solo. Pretty good IMO.

[the2stranger]

wow, that's :eek: good

thanks for the link

[MAthiAS]

That guy pwns. And he nailed the tone. Blind Faith is one of my favorite JP solos.

[bball_1523]

how is Jordan Rudesses' solo album? Like what type of music does it resemble?

[the2stranger]

how is Jordan Rudesses' solo album? Like what type of music does it resemble?


I don't any of the solo albums I think YOU are talking about

but I have Jordan Rudess's 4NYC album.

andthat's just awesoem, lot of classical music, andd some harp patches and the like,, very nice

I recommend it to anyone (if you can find it :-\ )who likes jordan's playing

[Lord Abortion]

I may get Awake next...
when I get some money

[Riva]

I may get Awake next...
when I get some money

I wasn't a big fan of Awake at first... but it really grows on you after a while.

[Lord Abortion]

yeah I love images and words I really haven't stopped listening to it Wait for sleep is very beautiful

[imadopedude]

i just started to hear some dream theatre, can you guys suggest some good songs?
ive already heard: a change of seasons, the glass prison, the dance of eternity, under the glass moon.

[MAthiAS]

i just started to hear some dream theatre, can you guys suggest some good songs?
ive already heard: a change of seasons, the glass prison, the dance of eternity, under the glass moon.
6:00, Beyond this Life, Metropolis Pt. 1, Learning to Live, Take the Time, Home, In the Name of God, As I Am, Blind Faith, Yste Jam, Scarred. Should get you started... :thumb:

Yeah Abortion, I agree, Wait for Sleep is an awesome song, and it leads really nicely into Learning to Live. I love how DT have some of the coolest mellow stuff and great heavy stuff as well. Just look at Awake with Space Dye Vest and The Mirror/Lie.

[Reidie86]

i just started to hear some dream theatre, can you guys suggest some good songs?
ive already heard: a change of seasons, the glass prison, the dance of eternity, under the glass moon.

metropollis pt 1, learning to live, caught in a web, voices, hells kitchen, this dying soul, the whole of scenes from a memory

[Hammerheart]

i just started to hear some dream theatre, can you guys suggest some good songs?
ive already heard: a change of seasons, the glass prison, the dance of eternity, under the glass moon.

Pull me under, the best DT song.

[imadopedude]

much thanks!!

[BradyEB]

Also Misunderstood.

[MAthiAS]

Also Misunderstood.
Yeah. I really love 1-4 on 6DoiT disc 1.

[joas]

Yeah. I really love 1-4 on 6DoiT disc 1.


How about the second disc? :p :D

[mprules]

i used to love images and words, but i think my favourite album is now awake, its so great

it does not have the cheesy element of images and words, and basically every song on it is great, scarred is good

[BradyEB]

I dunno only track 1 2 and 5 have grown for me on the first disc and i quite like the second disc but theres still room for growing.
I heard This Dying Soul today for the first time and i was so happy when i heard it was apart of The Glass Prision. \m/ to that.

[MAthiAS]

I dunno only track 1 2 and 5 have grown for me on the first disc and i quite like the second disc but theres still room for growing.
I heard This Dying Soul today for the first time and i was so happy when i heard it was apart of The Glass Prision. \m/ to that.
Yeah, Portnoy said every album they'll have a song like that, until he runs out of AA steps to write about.

Second disc of 6DoiT, I really havent listened to all THAT much, though there are some killer songs on it.

[Cain]

To MaTHias:

Really? I really wish Portnoy wouldn't write any more "Glass Prison" continuations. But then, ToT's style is a general bone of contention with me, so there you have it, I suppose.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, that's the deal. The Glass Prison is about AA steps 1-3 I think, and This Dying Soul is 4 and 5. 12 in all, so maybe that guarantees 3 more albums with one?

[Quebec]

Yeah, that's the deal. The Glass Prison is about AA steps 1-3 I think, and This Dying Soul is 4 and 5. 12 in all, so maybe that guarantees 3 more albums with one?
It's a great thing that he want to do step 6-12. Can't wait to hear them!

[Burdcheese]

Anyone planning on getting John Petrucci's solo album?

[MNbassist78]

Yeah, I'm getting it, it sounds like it will be pretty good.

[RiceMonster]

Anyone planning on getting John Petrucci's solo album?
I'm going to have to hear some material before I get it.

[BradyEB]

It's a great thing that he want to do step 6-12. Can't wait to hear them!
Now THAT got me excited. :naughty:

[TemperamentalGoat]

i just started to hear some dream theatre, can you guys suggest some good songs?
ive already heard: a change of seasons, the glass prison, the dance of eternity, under the glass moon.

Along with all the other suggestions, I think "take away my pain" is a nice poppy number to get a better grip on their versatility.

[Quebec]

Anyone planning on getting John Petrucci's solo album?
I think I'm going to buy it. I hope it wont be too expensive

[back to the front]

Anyone planning on getting John Petrucci's solo album?
I would love to but i'm still working on getting the rest of DT albums. Will probably get Awake or A Change of Seasons next.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, I'll get JP's album eventually. After I buy a new guitar, been saving for a while.

[Quebec]

Yeah, I'll get JP's album eventually. After I buy a new guitar, been saving for a while.
What guitar will you buy?

Sorry this is really off topic...

[MAthiAS]

Looking at an LTD DV8 (Mustaine sig), maybe a Jackson Kelly, King V, or Soloist of some sort. Or an Ibanez RG1570 if I can find a 2004 one. Or maybe a real ESP Romeo model, met a guy who said he could get me one.

[3rdplanet]

Yeah, I'll get JP's album eventually. After I buy a new guitar, been saving for a while.

Tried to get that album of Amazon, but they just didn't send it, annoyed me :(

[Quebec]

Tried to get that album of Amazon, but they just didn't send it, annoyed me :(
It'll be released on march 1st...

[MAthiAS]

Yea. JP's solo album should be good. We really need a new topic here.

[3rdplanet]

It'll be released on march 1st...

Oh bugger, I meant I tried to get the 'Evening with...' CD.

[TenYearsGone]

Isn't the new solo album only avalible off of Johns' site?

[Chicago Typewriter]

I've just recently gotten into Dream Theater, so the only CD I have thus far is Train of Thought. The album is brilliant, but I found the lyrics to be a bit generic; any suggestions as to which album I should get next?

[MAthiAS]

I've just recently gotten into Dream Theater, so the only CD I have thus far is Train of Thought. The album is brilliant, but I found the lyrics to be a bit generic; any suggestions as to which album I should get next?
Images and Words is my favorite. Its a lot less heavy though, so you'd probably be better off getting Awake or Scenes From A Memory. Awake is my preference of those two, but both are awesome.

[Tails]

Oh bugger, I meant I tried to get the 'Evening with...' CD.

I've only seen that CD once in a store, I almost bought it except it was $30CDN and I was broke. :upset:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Images and Words is my favorite. Its a lot less heavy though, so you'd probably be better off getting Awake or Scenes From A Memory. Awake is my preference of those two, but both are awesome.
I haven't been dissapointed with a DT album yet. Personally, I really like Awake and Train of Thought. Though IaW is up there...I really like every song off there

I LOVE Surrounded...the whole "light to dark, dark to light" is really cool! :thumb:


I'm a nerd :upset:

[IvortheEngineDriver]

Personally, I think lyrically, Learning to Live is their best song.

"I fell in love to be let down"...what an amazing ****ing line!

[The JoZ]

Dream Theater have so many good lyrics it isn't funny.

Seriously, I think there are probably great lyrics on every album of theirs...save maybe WDaDU...simply because I don't know all the lyrics off that one yet, so...meh :p

[Embodyment]

Dream Theater is my fav metal band. but i have to admit that at times Labrie and Rudess make me absolutely CRINGE. some parts with the really wanky keyboards and when labrie sings all high it makes me almost embarrassed to listen to them. but when i hear the rest of the band it makes it all worth it. dont get me wrong, i like labrie's singing and rudess's playing. sometimes they make some of Dream Theater's most pivitol(sp?) moments for me, its just that they also make me cringe as well. but my fav band by far. they are the only band so far to make me bang my head and cry in the same song.

[Firecracker]

Epicness doesn't come in bits with DT, it comes all over the music.
I couldn't love this band more.

[MAthiAS]

What do you guys think is their best song lyrically? Space Dye Vest always got me... really all of Awake, and Blind Faith and Misunderstood.

[The JoZ]

First off, lyrically, I don't think their is a 'best' song of theirs. Alot of their songs speak to me in very different ways.

Particular favorites of mine include "Caught in a Web", "The Mirror/Lie", "Scarred", "The Glass Prison", "Trial of Tears", and really all of Train of Thought.

Secondly, for every moment that Jordan Rudess goes and does a 'wanky' solo, he makes up for it with something very tasteful, and beautiful. The piano solo in "Blind Faith", the piano in "Endless Sacrifice", almost all of Scenes From a Memory, the piano parts in "In the Name of God". Jordan's playing is simply top notch, and even if you don't like it when he goes and plays at Ludicrious Speed, I think there are more than enough moments to make up for that.

That being said, I do think there are a few times where I don't like Labrie's higher register singing, but most of it is off off Images and Words, so...he's learned to use his lower registers alot better, especially on Awake and Train of Thought.

[National chaos sam]

As i am is a good decent song though, it sets apart from most of their other stuff..

[3rdplanet]

What do you guys think is their best song lyrically? Space Dye Vest always got me... really all of Awake, and Blind Faith and Misunderstood.

Man, I love that song so much. **** Kevin Moore leaving, then again I wouldn't want to hear Rudess.

The lyrics are a big let down for me in the whole DT field.

[Distorted Vision]

From mikeportnoy.com, posted by the man himself :

''On Friday February 25th 2005, Dream Theater wrapped up recording on their latest album. Mixing will be begin on Monday February 28th and the record will be delivered to the label in Mid-March. A release is expected for sometime around May/June through Atlantic Records.

Dream Theater began writing and recording their latest album last November at the world famous Hit Factory studios in New York City. (everybody from Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen, Madonna, Britney Spears, U2, Mariah Carey, REM, etc. etc. have all recorded at the legendary studio)
As has been reported in the media several weeks ago, the famous recording studio is closing down upon the completion of Dream Theater's recording session.

This album will hold the distinction of being the VERY LAST album ever recorded at the Hit Factory in NYC. (the first was Stevie Wonder's "Songs In The Key Of Life") After the Dream Theater sessions ended on Friday night, the lights were turned off and the doors were locked to the world famous studio - ending an era in the music industry....''


I can't wait. And that's a pretty cool piece of history to be involved in.

[Quebec]

I just can't wait! So cool!! I wonder what it will sound like...

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, are they continuing in the direction of Train of Thought?

[Quebec]

I think the music will probably be in the direction of ToT, but I'm sure they have evolved as they did on all of their cds. Anyway I'm sure it will rule

[Distorted Vision]

No, they've said that Train Of Thought let them indulge their metal influences, and now they're taking it in another direction. It's expected to be 'more progressive' (not my words), which may mean something really fresh, hopefully not just progressive in terms of sounding like all the other prog bands. I'm pretty confident that they've pulled off something quality though.

[Quebec]

They have always done original and quality work, so I'm not worried. I just hope that it won't be too soft, but I'm sure this is not going to happen, so it's ok

"What's it like? It's awesome. It's a little bit of everything — it's really a mixed bag. It's like classic DREAM THEATER where it's got some long songs, some short songs, some heavy songs…"

[MAthiAS]

Short songs and long songs? Okay, shortest song on the album will be 6 minutes, and longest will be 15. Sounds kind of like Awake though, that had a great mix of heavy and soft.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I just hope they continue on this upward trend. Though, I think Kevin Moore should come back to write a few songs, that would be sweet.

Regardless, I am excited about this album. Hopefully, I can go see them this summer when they tour! It would make it for me :)

[BradyEB]

Hopfully they will come to NZ and make me happy. I'm really excited bout this new album!

[SilenceNOmorE]

**** straight! We need to start a petition to get DT out to Aus/NZ. Even if they only came to the Eastern States (I live in Perth) I'd probably beg, borrow and steal to go to Melbourne and see them

[mprules]

**** straight! We need to start a petition to get DT out to Aus/NZ. Even if they only came to the Eastern States (I live in Perth) I'd probably beg, borrow and steal to go to Melbourne and see them
yes please, if they came to wellington new zealand, i would be SO happy

[Reidie86]

**** straight! We need to start a petition to get DT out to Aus/NZ. Even if they only came to the Eastern States (I live in Perth) I'd probably beg, borrow and steal to go to Melbourne and see them

hell yeah, im from perth too, im flying to melbourne for the megadeth concert, and i'd do the same for a DT concert 2

[3rdplanet]

I missed them last year, they only went to Manchester and London, couldn't get to either of the gigs, and I had only just started listening to them really.

[RideTheSpiral]

**** straight! We need to start a petition to get DT out to Aus/NZ. Even if they only came to the Eastern States (I live in Perth) I'd probably beg, borrow and steal to go to Melbourne and see them


I doubt they'll come. But it would be great.

[Distorted Vision]

I just hope they're playing some proper headline gigs in England, and not just festivals.

[the2stranger]

If I have to, I will go and see them at a festival.
but I don't think Festival appearances do justice to DT.
you need to excperience DT in a concert hal or something, and nnot on a field where there are 1000's of people who don't give a crap about the music, and they screw up the atmosphere.

[Quebec]

Hey guys, some of you may remember that I posted a link to the Blind faith solo that had been recorded by a fan. Now, I just found a link to the "another day" solo. Its not as good as the blind faith solo, but check it out. Obviously its not the same guy that recorded the blind faith solo. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/8/robsdungeonmusic.htm

[Speedy Fingers]

Is anyone else here a keyboard player that just loves playing DT stuff? Cause I certainly am, can't get enough.

Off topic I know, but...meh.

[Triangle]

Ah man I cant wait for the new album and hopefully watching them in the UK.

Does anyone know how much the shipping will be from the US to England for JP's solo album?

[Speedy Fingers]

Why bother doing that when you could probably get it from Amazon or HMV!

[MAthiAS]

That Another Day solo was good, except the bends were a bit off.

[BradyEB]

yes please, if they came to wellington new zealand, i would be SO happy
Same with me! Someone needs to get them out here.

[Triangle]

Why bother doing that when you could probably get it from Amazon or HMV!
I read at the Petrucci Forums that it'll only be avaliable through his website. :confused:

[Speedy Fingers]

I read at the Petrucci Forums that it'll only be avaliable through his website. :confused:
**** on a stick that sucks if it's true. The number of sales will be drastically lower than if it was released in shops.

[Josh]

well, i just borrowed images and words from a friend, what a kick-*** album! ive heard some of the songs from train of thought as well, so as soon as i have enough money in the bank i am going to buy train of thought + images and words from amazon. :thumb:

[Quebec]

Hey guys, have anyone here listened to the sound clips from "suspended animation"? I've heard "jaws of life" and I'm downloading the "glasgow" clip. this is killer. Can't wait to hear the full album!

[Walrus Gumboot]

Hello thread :wave:
I have never heard Dream Theater, but I know they toured with Yes, who I know and love. Are they anything like Yes? Could you recommend a couple songs?

[Quebec]

Hello thread :wave:
I have never heard Dream Theater, but I know they toured with Yes, who I know and love. Are they anything like Yes? Could you recommend a couple songs?
Mike portnoy always said that DT was the heavy version of Yes... and for the songs, check those out:

Metropolis part I
Voices
Lie
Peruvian skies
Fatal Tragedy
Home
Blind faith
Endless sacrifice

and many others...

[thelittledrummerboy]

Looking for some info on Dream Theater. What do they sound like, good albums/songs and similarities.

[Otherside]

Looking for some info on Dream Theater. What do they sound like, good albums/songs and similarities.


Read the post above yours...

[Walrus Gumboot]

Thnks, now I am thinking of taking the plunge and buying an album of theirs, considering I am a Yes fan, what would you recommend to get into them?

[3rdplanet]

Awake.

[Quebec]

Thnks, now I am thinking of taking the plunge and buying an album of theirs, considering I am a Yes fan, what would you recommend to get into them?
Awake or Images and words

[back to the front]

Images and words is a good place to start. If you like heavier stuff Train of Thought could work. I think Metropolis Pt 2 is the best album overall, but its probably not the best place to start.

[Quebec]

Thnks, now I am thinking of taking the plunge and buying an album of theirs, considering I am a Yes fan, what would you recommend to get into them?
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=378

Dream Theater free MP3s, 1 from each album. check 'em out!

New tour date : June 25th - Le Parc Des Princes - Paris, France
(Special Guests of IRON MAIDEN)

[NnyTard]

i borrowed a dream theatre off someone recently, its not bad really.

[Josh]

Images and words is a good place to start. If you like heavier stuff Train of Thought could work. I think Metropolis Pt 2 is the best album overall, but its probably not the best place to start.
i'm getting images and words and train of thought :thumb: this dying soul from train of thought is amazing, and the whole of images and words is great.

[lecky]

hey everyone, i love my dream theater like i love my taffy ...and im a man who loves his taffy. glass prison is my favourite id have to say followed closely by erotomania, and im pleased to see another day made it onto the songs that make u cry thread so frequently, coz thats one hell of an emotional song. peace

[National chaos sam]

Does anyone now what sticks MP uses?

[Josh]

no, would you not be able to find out on the DT site?

images & words and train of thought got delivered this morning, both amazing albums.

/ is listening to this dying sould (train of thought) right now

[BradyEB]

Ohh god This Dying Soul is my current fav Dream theater song. Amazing stuff that song is.

[Maynard's Dick]

hey guys, I dont have any DT albums yet but I'm thinking: Live from Bodukan or one of the studio albums?

[The Depressed]

If you want the best representation of constistency - go studio album. If you want an incredible range of some of their very best songs with a few flaws - go Budokan.

Speaking of that, I've just finished watching the DVD. Disappear is an incredible song. One of my favourites by DT. Just thought I'd mention that...

[Yaksha]

woohoo i just saw on the dream theater website that their new album is coming out in a few short months!!! woot !!!!

[Josh]

more cash will need spending...

[MNbassist78]

If you want the best representation of constistency - go studio album. If you want an incredible range of some of their very best songs with a few flaws - go Budokan.

Speaking of that, I've just finished watching the DVD. Disappear is an incredible song. One of my favourites by DT. Just thought I'd mention that...

Yeah, when I first heard Disappear I didn't think much of it. But when I was watching Live at Budokan and it came on, I wondered why I never really liked such a amazing song.

[The Depressed]

Yeah, when I first heard Disappear I didn't think much of it. But when I was watching Live at Budokan and it came on, I wondered why I never really liked such a amazing song.

It's probably because it's an understated song on 6DOIT. You look at the tracklisting for the first disc and you automatically think that it's a filler tune, because of the length compared to the collosuses before it. Which is a shame, as it's my favourite song on the album.

[static]

hey everyone, i love my dream theater like i love my taffy ...and im a man who loves his taffy. glass prison is my favourite id have to say followed closely by erotomania, and im pleased to see another day made it onto the songs that make u cry thread so frequently, coz thats one hell of an emotional song. peace


great reference to family guy :thumb: mayor adam west

[BradyEB]

The only track i really dislike on SDOIT on the first disk is The Great Debate. It just dosent grow on me aye.

[MAthiAS]

I love the Great Debate, its got some awesome riffs. Reminds me of Symphony X a lot.

[BradyEB]

Fair enough, maybe it will grow one day.

[Quebec]

I love the Great Debate, its got some awesome riffs. Reminds me of Symphony X a lot.
Yeah, I love the riff played under the "are you justified..." part. great song.

[Lord Abortion]

hey everyone, i love my dream theater like i love my taffy ...and im a man who loves his taffy. glass prison is my favourite id have to say followed closely by erotomania, and im pleased to see another day made it onto the songs that make u cry thread so frequently, coz thats one hell of an emotional song. peace
wait for sleep does that to me...
train of thought is coming in the post today!!!!

[ironmetalman]

I need another dreamtheater album,i have train of thought

[Lord Abortion]

I have TOT and images & words
I also have cash (about £20)
I can get two (count 'em ...TWO) DT albums.
what would you reccomend?

[the2stranger]

I have TOT and images & words
I also have cash (about £20)
I can get two (count 'em ...TWO) DT albums.
what would you reccomend?


6 degrees of inner turbulence and Awake

[guitarloser]

awake is an awesome album
that and images and words are amazing

[Lord Abortion]

I 'm thinking of awake and a change of seasons
if I can scrounge some money I can get them and my cannibal corpse album
if awake is more like I&W that's what I want

[Quebec]

I 'm thinking of awake and a change of seasons
if I can scrounge some money I can get them and my cannibal corpse album
if awake is more like I&W that's what I want
Awake is heavier than I&W. Check "the mirror" here (http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=378# mp3)

[Yaksha]

I & W is one of their best albums tho ;P

[guitarloser]

I & W is one of their best albums tho ;P
right you are :thumb:

[guitarloser]

another day is an awesome song

[Fallen Zero]

I love Images and Words. Do they have any other songs that are in the similar genre/style of "Take The Time".

[GreyAssassingtr1]

^ your same avatars are confusing me. i'm just now hearing of DT (yes i have been living under a rock......in a hole) and am currently downloading "A Glass Prison" and "A Change of Seasons". what should i buy as my first dream theater album?

[MNbassist78]

I say go with Awake or Images and Words. Awake is heavier but I personaly like Images and Words better. They both are great albums. Also,

Awake is heavier than I&W. Check "the mirror" here (http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=378# mp3)


Follow the link and you can hear some of their stuff from all their albums.

[back to the front]

Come on people give Metropolis Pt 2 some love. its a great album.

[The JoZ]

It's an overrated album, really.

The concept is great, and the storytelling good...but the music, I mean...they have far better songs than the stuff on SFAM.

[Werny]

I got some Dream Theater stuff...

I think overall they're pretty hardcore, but they're too radiofriendly to keep me interested for long.

(yes I know, they have 10 minute songs, but just because they're lengthy doesn't mean they aren't radiofriendly in sound)

[badtaste]

whoa... I thought this thread died ages ago.

Go DT.

[Josh]

^ your same avatars are confusing me. i'm just now hearing of DT (yes i have been living under a rock......in a hole) and am currently downloading "A Glass Prison" and "A Change of Seasons". what should i buy as my first dream theater album?
images and words or train of thought (the only 2 i have) theyre both great

[Lord Abortion]

I & W is one of their best albums tho ;P
lyrically and musically it's one of the greatest albums I have ever heard
i just put it on and thought
hell this band is incredible it's beyond words

[Josh]

yeh, it is just amazing

[guitarloser]

lyrically and musically it's one of the greatest albums I have ever heard
i just put it on and thought
hell this band is incredible it's beyond words
i love how their songs are so long and have totally different styles, keys and riffs all rolled up into one song.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I don't like Metropolis Part 1 per se...but man, the middle part of the song is amazing! the part when Myung is tapping and the keyboard does some wierd scale...****ing amazing!!!!

[The JoZ]

I got some Dream Theater stuff...

I think overall they're pretty hardcore, but they're too radiofriendly to keep me interested for long.

(yes I know, they have 10 minute songs, but just because they're lengthy doesn't mean they aren't radiofriendly in sound)

The only song of theirs that is radio friendly is actually on the radio, "As I Am"

Seriously, DT stuff is generally too complex to be radio friendly.

Some of their stuff off Images and Words might be radio friendly, but generally, anything from Awake on really isn't, save "As I Am"

[the2stranger]

^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:

the radiochannel I listen to; arrow classic rock does play long (radio unfriendly songs),
they played the entire pink floyd 'echoes' song.
we need more radiostations like that :(

[yogaguitar]

So... I've begun listening to dream theater now (about five or six weeks ago)....
I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!
I only got their two first but I thought that "when dream and day unit" was one of the best albums I’ve ever heard, no group has ever given such a great first impression as this one. Others don't seem to have the same opinion about their first album…
Does anyone else but me think that it is very underrated?

[The Depressed]

Some of their stuff off Images and Words might be radio friendly, but generally, anything from Awake on really isn't, save "As I Am"

Except select tracks from Falling Into Infinity (Take Away My Pain, Anna Lee, Burning My Soul to name three).

But hey, even a relatively commercial album like FII is still an incredible album. How many other albums can you have 'poppy' songs and also have progressive masterpieces like New Millenium, Hell's Kitchen and Trial Of Tears yet still sound like the same band?

yogaguitar - WDADU has the fourth best DT song on it - Only A Matter Of Time. So of course it's good.

[The JoZ]

^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:


Not true.

My station has played unedited cuts of various Tool songs, including Lateralus at 9:24 and No Quarter at 11+ minutes.

Generally, long songs don't do well on the radio, but sometimes they do.

[id552]

I have an mp3 which I am almost sure has been mis-tagged. I really like it, and I know it's Dream Theater. It's more metallish, and only slightly prog. It's been named: "As I am" with the Album set to "Train of Thought".

The problem arose when I got a tab for it, but the tab clearly was nothing like the song. No trace of my mp3 was in this tab. So, I tried downloading it again. It was completely different; it was prog and drawn out.

If you have your guitar nearby, here's my best interpretation of the main riff in the song:
Tune to CADGBE (this is wrong, but it works)

PM|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
C|0-0-00-0-0-00000-0-0-00-0-0-00000------0-00-------0----
A|-------------------------------------2h4h5-----2h4h5-55h4
D|-----------------------------------------------------------

If this is not enough, I'll pass the mp3 around.

Any help will be much appreciated.

[The JoZ]

Either way, the As I Am main riff is not played like that.

Pm......
F----------8p7p5-8p7p5-8-7
C--0-0-0-0

"As I Am" the original is 7:47 long. The radio edit is like 7:21 I think.

[id552]

My song is 3:34. That complicates things.

[The JoZ]

No, your tab sounds nothing like the real riff. If I played what you tabbed out, it would sound absolutely nothing like "As I Am"

Can you pick out any lyrics from the song?

[id552]

It is fairly clipped at the end though. Sounds a bit rough for a studio cut.

[id552]

No, your tab sounds nothing like the real riff. If I played what you tabbed out, it would sound absolutely nothing like "As I Am"

Can you pick out any lyrics from the song?

Well, that was my first plan, but, I couldn't make out anything more than a few words here and there. Anyway, the notes definitely ascend in pitch, so your tab (with pulloffs) is not for the song I have.

[The JoZ]

It's probably not really them.

[id552]

I'm almost positive it is. The vocals, drumming, the guitar- everything sounds like Dream theater. Can I send you the mp3?

[The JoZ]

Yeah, do it.

[id552]

Thanks for your help btw.

[id552]

I've added you to msn. Could you accept?

[Quebec]

^^

I agree, and
10 minute+ length does make a song radio unfriendly, there aren't many radiostations who will play that.

and they will make crappy radio-edits, who do no justice to the song :mad:

the radiochannel I listen to; arrow classic rock does play long (radio unfriendly songs),
they played the entire pink floyd 'echoes' song.
we need more radiostations like that :(
The classic rock station in my area are still playing "pull me under".... And last week they played the whole pink floyd album "dark side of the moon". and another station sometimes plays "as i am", and I think the played some opeth yesterday. But thats off topic.

[Cain]

The classic rock station in my area are still playing "pull me under".... And last week they played the whole pink floyd album "dark side of the moon". and another station sometimes plays "as i am", and I think the played some opeth yesterday. But thats off topic.

That's a good radio station.

[Quebec]

That's a good radio station.
Only the classic rock station. The other one only plays mainstream **** except past 11:00pm....

[Chu]

I bought Train of Thought, I like it.

[the2stranger]

^^

good
it is an awesome cd indeed.
although many people don't like the 'heavy' DT

but I don't care, I like soft and heavy DT

[Chu]

I like it alot. I like the heaviness, there are some cool sounding riffs in my opinion.
Like As I Am, and Honor Thy Father is cool too. Haven't really been noticing what the song names are, just leaving the whole album on repeat with my iPod whilst I play games, but a few songs (Like the two mentioned) have grabbed my attention enough to check the name.
Also, the reason I bought the album, I have a 'fetish', if you will, for instrumental tracks :)
And Stream of Consciousness definately lived up to that, I like it alot!

[GreyAssassingtr1]

****, i just finished downloading "the glass prison" looks like i'm gonna have to save up for some new cds. how did i not hear of dream theater earlier?

[Quebec]

Also, the reason I bought the album, I have a 'fetish', if you will, for instrumental tracks :)
And Stream of Consciousness definately lived up to that, I like it alot!
Check out "ytse jam", "Erotomania", "the dance of eternity" if you haven't. Obviously you should also check the Instrumedley on live at budokan. And if you have a "fetish" for instrumental tracks, you should already know about "liquid tension experiment".

[Chu]

Check out "ytse jam", "Erotomania", "the dance of eternity" if you haven't. Obviously you should also check the Instrumedley on live at budokan. And if you have a "fetish" for instrumental tracks, you should already know about "liquid tension experiment".
Oh yeah, I've been looking for LTE albums around here, unfortunately, every store would rather stock Britney Spears etc. And I don't have a Credit Card (Nor do I live with my parents) so I can't buy the album/s. I might download some of their stuff sometime.

I really like Overture 1928 and Dance of Eternity though :)

[The JoZ]

The Budokan Instrumedly is amazing.

Ytse Jam and Dance of Eternity are good too...but I think Erotomania suffers a little. SoC is the best out of the four, IMO.

****, i just finished downloading "the glass prison" looks like i'm gonna have to save up for some new cds. how did i not hear of dream theater earlier?

I hadn't heard of them till I started posting on here either...man, I am so glad I did, they have opened me up to new music, and new ideas when playing bass.

The Glass Prison was my first DT song too...wow, what a great song :cool:

[Quebec]

The Glass Prison was my first DT song too...wow, what a great song :cool:
It was my first DT song too.... I remember I was blown away! Best DT song after ACOS!

*100th post in this thread*

[The JoZ]

Actually, I think TGP > ACOS.

Simply because Every second of TGP is great. ACOS has a few sections I don't really like. "Carpe Diem" for example...

[Quebec]

Actually, I think TGP > ACOS.

Simply because Every second of TGP is great. ACOS has a few sections I don't really like. "Carpe Diem" for example...
I hated this part untill I listened to Opeth. This band opened me to clean guitar... But TGP and ACOS are really close...

[The JoZ]

I mean, I really love sections I and II on ACOS, but III doesn't do it for me....

*shrug*

[Quebec]

I mean, I really love sections I and II on ACOS, but III doesn't do it for me....



I respect your opinion, but I really think that ACOS is better than TGP, but that's just me. And Is TGP your fav DT song?