Dream Theater

[Lord Abortion]

Perfect strangers is a great cover, that's the one they do for the Nightmare Cinema song, too isn't it?

[Happy]

I don't really like the covers on ACOS at all.

[GenuineImitation]

What pink floyd song is in the medley?

[Happy]

I picked up a bootleg yesterday. It has Take The Time on it. Does John always sing the first verse?

[Lord of Sword]

i like all the covers on ACOS, besides the Led Zeppelin and one of the songs in the big medley.

i have a nightmare cinema video btw, i'll upload if anyone else wants to see it.

[Echleon]

Just got Live Scenes From New York CD.

'Tis awesome, I love it :thumb:

Will hopefully be getting ACOS on Wednesday :)

[scenesfromatheater]

I picked up a bootleg yesterday. It has Take The Time on it. Does John always sing the first verse?
Take The Time on 5YIALT has John and Mike doing the first verse up to "I think it's time for a chhaaaaaaaannnnnngggeeeee". Don't think he does on any others apart from them though.

[red barchetta]

I picked up a bootleg yesterday. It has Take The Time on it. Does John always sing the first verse?
James doesnt sing it in Once in a Livetime, so i suppose he lets John and Mike sing it.

[ghettoeddo]

so the general consensus on DVD to get besides budokan is...the dual-disc I&W in tokyo/five years in a livetime?

[GenuineImitation]

so the general consensus on DVD to get besides budokan is...the dual-disc I&W in tokyo/five years in a livetime?


I don't own either, but I hear a lot of good things about 5 years in a livetime.

[eighty d]

i have a nightmare cinema video btw, i'll upload if anyone else wants to see it.

that'd be awesome.

and the pink floyd song in the medley is in the flesh?

[bwnstl]

I don't own either, but I hear a lot of good things about 5 years in a livetime.

Are you kidding? That's the worst one.

Lord of Sword, i'd appreciate that video.

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com

[Lord of Sword]

here's the nightmare cinema video, i don't know where it's from or when, but as usual they play perfect strangers (replace xx as always)

hxxp://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3H4M4EWL0GN5P07RSP4DH4U67U

[Lord Abortion]

Oh yes!

Nice one!

[Deconstruction]

here's the nightmare cinema video, i don't know where it's from or when, but as usual they play perfect strangers (replace xx as always)

hxxp://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3H4M4EWL0GN5P07RSP4DH4U67U
dl's...ACOS is a really good change for DT i thought.

[Triangle]

here's the nightmare cinema video, i don't know where it's from or when, but as usual they play perfect strangers (replace xx as always)

hxxp://s30.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3H4M4EWL0GN5P07RSP4DH4U67U
/DLing

Ta for that.

[Happy]

:eek: Nightmare Cinema!
Must download.

[GenuineImitation]

Are you kidding? That's the worst one.

Lord of Sword, i'd appreciate that video.

bjwumr AT gmail DOT com


I said I have heard that it was the best and that I do not own it. I don't see why the question "Are you kidding" was necessary.

[Happy]

This Nightmare Cinema vid's pretty funny. Mike and John look so out of place.

[ghettoeddo]

is nightmare cinema simply them switching instruments?

haha. "who caught the petrucci sticks?"

[bwnstl]

I said I have heard that it was the best and that I do not own it. I don't see why the question "Are you kidding" was necessary.

It was necessary, because I thought you were being sarcastic. That's how bad the DVD is. I don't see why you should be giving advice on which DVD to buy when you apparently don't own most or any of them.

[Triangle]

is nightmare cinema simply them switching instruments?

haha. "who caught the petrucci sticks?"
:lol: Yeah.

It's funny seeing Myung on keys, and Petrucci's a great drummer. :rolleyes:

[shamed-angel]

James doesnt sing it in Once in a Livetime, so i suppose he lets John and Mike sing it.
Apparently James's Mic broke on OIALT, so John sung it while James was getting another mic. James let him do it for the rest of the tour.

[Happy]

:lol: Yeah.

It's funny seeing Myung on keys, and Petrucci's a great drummer. :rolleyes:
Actually, he's not that bad. I've seen loads worse around here...

[GenuineImitation]

It was necessary, because I thought you were being sarcastic. That's how bad the DVD is. I don't see why you should be giving advice on which DVD to buy when you apparently don't own most or any of them.

I was just told that it was good, but not as good as Budokon (which i own). I was actually told this by several friends who have been into DT since the mid 90's, so I value their opinion. Whenever they tell me something is great, it usually is, so I figured why would this be different.

Discussion ended.

[emo is so cool]

Can anyone upload Octavarium or Six degrees of inner turbelence? ill trade Scenes From a Memory or Images and words..

[bwnstl]

Can anyone upload Octavarium or Six degrees of inner turbelence? ill trade Scenes From a Memory or Images and words..

Go buy them.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, buy them.
It's so much more rewarding.

[GenuineImitation]

What was the first DT cd you guys bought. Mine was ToT.

[ghettoeddo]

octavarium.

[scenesfromatheater]

My bro has bought most of the albums and all the official live albums but I have got all the albums on me computer.

I have to say, now that I like FII, 5YIALT is an awsome live album. Now I know every song on it.

[Lord of Sword]

i bought I&W after downloading a couple of DT's songs off progarchives.com. i remember listening to it on the way home, and wondering why pull me under cut out at the end, but then the batteries in my diskman ran out halfway through another day. i thought it was odd at first, having never listened to much music with keyboards before, especially the jingle bells in metropolis, but i liked it after a while, and then bought SFAM a few weeks later.

[ghettoeddo]

^ very detailed.

ummm...i had a couple DT songs through download like pull me under, another day, home, caught in a web. i really liked them, so i bouthg 8vm the day it came out, and i loved every song on there except these walls, i walk beside you. it didn't leave my CD player for several weeks. in fact, when i saw them on gigantour, 8vm songs were the only ones i really knew, so i had no idea what they were playing ><

but now that i have every CD but the live ones and WDADU, i really wanna see em live again. this time, i'll know what's going on :]

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, I know all there songs now so it'd be cool to see them live again. I saw them on the 8V tour. Still, they played nearly the whole album and the set was awful because of that, they didn't play much of the older stuff like I&W and Awake. I would have enjoyed more stuff off FII aswell but they played loads of boring 8V instead. 8V was the only good song they played off the album apart from TROAE which was an awsome opener.

[Deth]

Awake, because my bass teacher lent me the CD so I could learn Scarred and 6:00. I didn't think too much of it at first but after a while I put it back on and really enjoyed it.

[IbanezSamurai]

Celebrating the very last show of Dream Theater's 20th Anniversary Tour 2005/2006, this very special Grand Finale will be recorded and filmed for an upcoming 20th Anniversary DVD & CD release.

..... And I am not going to be there!@#$#$%^$%& :( :( :(

[Deth]

I think that DT kind of go overboard with the live releases. It's like every album or two.

[Shattered_Future]

Almost like the recent Maiden live album trend...

I have almost all of DT's studio stuff (only one I don't have is FII), and I didn't buy any of it. :lol:

I want to get LSFNY, simply because they do all of SFAM and A Change Of Seasons live.

[Deth]

Yeah, but Maiden is doing the older tours. They have done two consecutive live albums, but they aren't as bad. Plus it's not like they're doing the entire albums.

[ghettoeddo]

another DT live CD?

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. i don't care whether it's overboard or not at this point :] more dream theater = good in my opinion.

8vm isn't THAT bad. i personally like answer lies within more than like...hollow years.

[IbanezSamurai]

Today I was on the airplane coming from Orlando, when the plane was up in the sky and the flight assistant said we can now use our electronic devices, the guy who was sitting next to me, in his late 20's I assume, got out his cd player and put on SFAM cd! he was playing it real loud that even people in the back could hear it, but I thought it was really cool to see another DT fan. It was funny to see him doing the double bass drum with his feet and air guitar with his hands :D

[pizzapie88]

My first was DT cd was scenes from a memory. I brought it because of all the talk/hype they get on here. True Story.

[BaconSandwich]

Don't get me wrong i love dream theater!! But they'd be so much better with a different vocalist and better lyrics, their vocalist and lyrics are their downfall. I mean the drumming and guitar work is spectacular to say the least

Yea i have to agree, Dt is up there with my fav bands, but when James LaBrie starts singing, its hard to sit through it sometimes :lol:
Although its not thats hes a bad singer, far from it, he hits the notes quite well actually. His singing voice, however, is extremely annoying. And yea, their lyrics are lacking, but i spose all in all its what makes dream theater, along with the singer, unique. Without them they would sound completely different.

[BaconSandwich]

jees i must have been looking a bit far back eh :lol:

[BaconSandwich]

Hahahahahaha First Page Back Whoa Im Stupid!

[ValeOfShadows]

way to quote a year old post lol.:p

[Happy]

I've decided that because I don't own any DT dvds I'm going to buy one.
What's the best one to get?

[ValeOfShadows]

Iv heard that live at bodukan is the best.

NP: One of the worst songs iv ever heard.

[red barchetta]

I've decided that because I don't own any DT dvds I'm going to buy one.
What's the best one to get?
i say Budokan, just because of the 6DOIT songs and Stream of Consciencness. War inside my head/The test that stumped them all is so awesome.

Scenes from New York is also good, since it has Learning to live and ACOS, but i prefer Budokan.

[Happy]

Hmm SOC live on Budokan?
Yeah I'm getting that.

[GenuineImitation]

Hmm SOC live on Budokan?
Yeah I'm getting that.


You'll be happy (pardon the pun) with it. The production, both video and sound, is excellent.

[Deth]

Plus on Disc 2 you can watch Instrumedly on multiple angles, meaning 12 minutes of Myung shredding!

[GenuineImitation]

Plus on Disc 2 you can watch Instrumedly on multiple angles, meaning 12 minutes of Myung shredding!

I have never watched it in multiple angles. I think I'll do that later.

Do you have a choice of who to watch?

[Firecracker]

My ex-boyfriend has my Scenes From New York DVD.
And i want it back.

[Quickdrop]

Can anyone upload Octavarium or Six degrees of inner turbelence? ill trade Scenes From a Memory or Images and words..My images and words cd is MIA.:smash:

So if you upload that could you email it to me? Kill_You_45@yahoo.com, thanks.

[Happy]

My ex-boyfriend has my Scenes From New York DVD.
And i want it back.
Kill him for it.

I just ordered that one actually. I was looking for the Budokan but they were all American, so they wouldn't play on my DVD player.

[The Sandman]

I think I've seen the Scenes From New York dvd. If I'm remembering the right one then it rocks.

I would buy the Budokan one but it's too expensive...

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I borrowed the Budokan DVD from the Library. Free DVDs rule.

I wish they played The Glass Prison. The documentary was pretty cool.

NP: Judas Priest - Night Crawler

[emo is so cool]

I borrowed the Budokan DVD from the Library. Free DVDs rule.

I wish they played The Glass Prison. The d0cumentary was pretty cool.

NP: Judas Priest - Night Crawler

woah, they have DT dvd's in your library??

ps quickdrop ill give u images & words.

[shane]

STOP EVERYONE! HEY, does anyone know what Portnoy will post at 6:00 on this years christmas????

[Kirk's Puppet]

*Prays that he posts 1 min late*

[6-String_Slinger]

hey, anybody who has/has seen the budokan dvd....

in the documentary when DT is talking about playing the maiden album, right after mike and petrucci do their vocal harmonies for run to the hills, they go to a quick montage of clips from that nights show with a maiden song playing in the backround............anybody know what song that is? I'm sure it's off of the number of the beast album. thanks.

[eighty d]

if i remember correctly it's the prisoner.

[ghettoeddo]

april 1, 2006 is DT's last show of this tour. does that mean us poor north americans don't get another tour for awhile? :(

europeans get everything...oh btw, that's the date that DT will be making their next DVD in new york city.

[Kirk's Puppet]

Is "A Change of Seasons" in Bonus Materials of LSFNY?

[Happy]

april 1, 2006 is DT's last show of this tour. does that mean us poor north americans don't get another tour for awhile? :(

europeans get everything...oh btw, that's the date that DT will be making their next DVD in new york city.
Pfft yeah right. We don't get as much as you guys.

[shamed-angel]

STOP EVERYONE! HEY, does anyone know what Portnoy will post at 6:00 on this years christmas????
Where is he gonna post?

Is "A Change of Seasons" in Bonus Materials of LSFNY?
Yeh. The bonus material on there is A Mind Beside Itself: Erotomania, Voices and The Silent Man. Then Learning To Live and Change of Seasons.
That gig had my dream DT setlist pretty much. Not including SDOIT, ToT and 8va.

[Happy]

Where is he gonna post?
Probably on the DT boards or something. I doubt he'd post here.

[shamed-angel]

hey, anybody who has/has seen the budokan dvd....

in the d0cumentary when DT is talking about playing the maiden album, right after mike and petrucci do their vocal harmonies for run to the hills, they go to a quick montage of clips from that nights show with a maiden song playing in the backround............anybody know what song that is? I'm sure it's off of the number of the beast album. thanks.
Well obviously, cause that's the album they covered...

Probably on the DT boards or something. I doubt he'd post here.
That would be seriously awesome...

[ValeOfShadows]

Ha my friends getting a Dream Theater DVD. Ill snatch it off him while hes not looking. Muhahaha.:evil:

[Lord Abortion]

Portnoy posting here would be...incredible.

[Happy]

Portnoy posting here would be...incredible.
I'd sex wee.

[ghettoeddo]

6AM/PM?

has he usually posted something on 6:00 before?

[Happy]

6AM/PM?

has he usually posted something on 6:00 before?
I don't know. I'd imagine PM. I always thought he was a regular poster on the Dt boards.

[el doctor]

Got my tickets for the 20th Anniversary Finale Show. :) They're not the greatest, but it'll do.

[IbanezSamurai]

Well, atleast you got them. For me, I am going to have to wait for them to release another album to see them in concert.

[Quickdrop]

woah, they have DT dvd's in your library??

ps quickdrop ill give u images & words.Awesome, whenever is good. Thanks.:thumb:

again my emails Kill_You_45@yahoo.com

[IbanezSamurai]

I found Steve Vai's 7th song cd in the library once.

[emo is so cool]

Anyone else besides me think that dt's "home" and tool's "46 & 2" sound reaaally similar?

[drummerben]

Anyone else besides me think that dt's "home" and tool's "46 & 2" sound reaaally similar?

Yes!! I noticed this a little while ago

[Quickdrop]

Yeah they sorta do actually. The intro of Vortex by Megadeth reminds me of the intro of Master of Puppets too.

[Triangle]

if i remember correctly it's the prisoner.
I've got a feeling it's Hallowed By Thy Name, but I haven't seen it for a while.

[shamed-angel]

6AM/PM?

has he usually posted something on 6:00 before?
It's going to be six o clock on christmas morning.
That's pretty much the whole point.

[Deth]

I've got a feeling it's Hallowed By Thy Name, but I haven't seen it for a while.
It's the Prisoner in the background.

[badtaste]

Anyone else besides me think that dt's "home" and tool's "46 & 2" sound reaaally similar?

only the intro.

[horseypie]

i just got awake....and havent listened to it much....damn me buying satch and nightwish

[emo is so cool]

the song "i walk beside you" sounds like they were inspired by like U2.

[ghettoeddo]

It's going to be six o clock on christmas morning.
That's pretty much the whole point.

makes sense :rolleyes: that was pretty dumb haha

[ghettoeddo]

the song "i walk beside you" sounds like they were inspired by like U2.

yea that's been noticed by lots of people. some have even gone as far to say that it sounds a bit like coldplay as well

[emo is so cool]

yea that's been noticed by lots of people. some have even gone as far to say that it sounds a bit like coldplay as well

Dude i bet if a non-DT fan listened to it he'd be 100% sure it was U2.

[nowitzki]

Lifting Shadows Off A Dream also has a big U2 influence. Its an awesome underrated song, one of my favourites.

[Happy]

Dude i bet if a non-DT fan listened to it he'd be 100% sure it was U2.
No not really. I don't think Labrie sounds anything like Bono.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

Well, atleast you got them. For me, I am going to have to wait for them to release another album to see them in concert.

At least you will have the chance to see them. I don't think they are EVER coming to Australia.

[Lord Abortion]

No not really. I don't think Labrie sounds anything like Bono.
No, he doesn't at all.
I like U2 Quite a bit, but haven't heard a similarity between them and DT, even in that song.

[ghettoeddo]

is it sad that i haven't heard iron maiden's original "# of the beast" album?
im gonna check it out, cuz the DT covers are great.

lifting shadows off a dream is indeed underrated. the whole album of "awake" is i think. takes some getting used to, but it's sinking in for me literally one song at a time :]

[Lord Abortion]

Very sad...as with all Maiden's stuff, it's amazing.

I'm loving Awake at the moment.

[Happy]

Same here. That and SFAM have been basically the only things in my CD player.

[ghettoeddo]

happy holidays people, whatever religion or lack thereof you may be.

NP: octavarium

[Happy]

My dvd still hasn't arrived :smash:

[ghettoeddo]

My dvd still hasn't arrived :smash:

your mom still hasn't arrived. :naughty:

........no? :upset:

[Happy]

your mom still hasn't arrived. :naughty:

........no? :upset:
Nah she wasn't ordered yet.
I meant my SFAM DVD silly.

[scenesfromatheater]

Lifting Shadows of a Dream is U2 inspired, it says on the 5YIALT DVD. As for I Walk beside You, I probably think it is U2 influenced as some of the other songs on the album have blatent influences like Never Enough (Muse).

lifting shadows off a dream is indeed overrated. the whole album of "awake" is i think. takes some getting used to, but it's sinking in for me literally one song at a time :]

Huh? Don't you mean underrated?

[JamJar]

Sigh, I didn't really get any CDs or DVDs, I really need to spend my money/vouchers and buy Awake!

[ghettoeddo]

Lifting Shadows of a Dream is U2 inspired, it says on the 5YIALT DVD. As for I Walk beside You, I probably think it is U2 influenced as some of the other songs on the album have blatent influences like Never Enough (Muse).



Huh? Don't you mean underrated?


yea my bad. meant underrated. fixxxxxxxxed

[emo is so cool]

anyone know what the word "octavarium" means? in the song titled that, LaBrie says "Trapped inside this Octavarium" so that made me wonder, did they just make that word up?

[shamed-angel]

My parents got me Images and Words bedclothes off of ebay. Now that is hardcore. How was everyone elses christmas?
anyone know what the word "octavarium" means? in the song titled that, LaBrie says "Trapped inside this Octavarium" so that made me wonder, did they just make that word up?
I think they just made it up but I know it's got something to do with an octave. I think it's used to signify a repeating cycle, what that is I'm not sure.

[badtaste]

C'mon, Awake sucks due to Labrie's try hard metal growling. STick to the high notes!

[Lord Abortion]

I got my LATB and FYIAL DVDs and my Once in a livetime CD...that should keep me DT'd up for a while...

[Happy]

My parents got me Images and Words bedclothes off of ebay. Now that is hardcore. How was everyone elses christmas?
Bedclothes? No way!
Any pics?

[Lord Abortion]

/whores cool new UT/Avatar combo

[classicrockman]

Nice...

Maybe next christmas you can get James LaBrie with a little santa hat instead of Bruce! :lol:

[temporary]

My parents got me Images and Words bedclothes off of ebay. Now that is hardcore. How was everyone elses christmas?

No way, get pics! That is hardcore.

[ghettoeddo]

C'mon, Awake sucks due to Labrie's try hard metal growling. STick to the high notes!

i disagree 100%.

i think his vocals on songs like "lie" are amazing. but that's just my opinion.

and to whoever asked what 8vm meant...

"Looking at the history of the word Octavarium reveals very little. The only historical record of it is a historical book in the Vatican called the Octavarium Romanum. It consists mainly of lessons regarding various Catholic feasts. Notable in its history, however, is many 5's and 8's. The book was first mentioned underthe pontification of Sixtus V (1585-1590) (Sixtus the FIFTH in FIFTEEN EIGHTY FIVE) and then was not mentioned again until it was brought up under Clement VIII (1592-1605) (that's Clement the EIGHTH)."

from dtfaq.com
the #5 is significant because there's 5 members in the band, and 8 total including past members. plus, the whole octave business.

actually, just check out http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

[Lord Abortion]

And of course...it's the 8th studio album...

[Happy]

I like Labrie's singing on Awake. The only thing I don't like about Awake is the "six o clock on a Christmas morning" over and over and the backing singing in the Silent Man.

[Lord Abortion]

The backing bits in the silent man are one of my favourite parts on LSFNY!

[Happy]

The backing bits in the silent man are one of my favourite parts on LSFNY!
I am yet to see it, it hasn't ****ing arrived yet :angry:
I just mean on the album.

[shamed-angel]

The backing bits in the silent man are one of my favourite parts on LSFNY!
The "Without faith, without hope." bit of Fatal Tragedy is mine. :p

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, but they are awful on LSFNY. JP is way out of tune.

[shamed-angel]

Which makes it that so much better!

[Lord Abortion]

I think LaBrie is pretty spot on in LSFNY. On A change of seasons and The spirit carries on especially.

[shamed-angel]

He has a massive sack attack during Finally Free.
"Living my own life by learning through you." :lol:
One of the best singers ever for range and high vocals. If not the best.

[ghettoeddo]

god i need to get LSFNY...that's the one w/ a change of seasons and the full SFAM right? and...the CD, not the DVD?

[Shattered_Future]

3 cd set.

That looked quite interesting, but I didn't have 30 bucks on me at the time. Probably wouldn't pay that much either.

[GenuineImitation]

I just got my Dad into DT. It rocks... we are going to watch Budokon tonight.

[Happy]

I just got my Dad into DT. It rocks... we are going to watch Budokon tonight.
Haha Awesome. I made my grandad watch a video of them. He was amazed.

[GenuineImitation]

Haha Awesome. I made my grandad watch a video of them. He was amazed.

Thats great. My dad really likes Metropolis Part 1 and Pull Me Under.

What song did you show your granfather?

[Happy]

Thats great. My dad really likes Metropolis Part 1 and Pull Me Under.

What song did you show your granfather?
I showed him an instrumedley video.

[GenuineImitation]

I showed him an instrumedley video.


My dads going to see that tonight. I may need to have an ambulence ready incase he has a seizure.

[Happy]

My dads going to see that tonight. I may need to have an ambulence ready incase he has a seizure.
:lol:
I just love the LTE parts of it, the way they blend Paradigm shift and Universal Mind.

[GenuineImitation]

:lol:
I just love the LTE parts of it, the way they blend Paradigm shift and Universal Mind.

Im just got that LTE cd and A Change of Seasons for christmas.

That part of the songs rocks \m/

[Lord of Sword]

:lol:
I just love the LTE parts of it, the way they blend Paradigm shift and Universal Mind.

the segue from the erotomania solo back to the dance of eternity is the single best moment of that song.

i got live in tokyo/5 years in a livetime dvd for christmas anyway, not as good as LSFNY or budokan, though mostly because neither is actually a live gig but excerpts. i haven't watched them all the way through yet though, but i have noticed that there seemed to be a lot more hair between the band in 1993.

[Happy]

Hey does anyone know what that thing is on Ruddess' keyboard? Is it sheet music?

[classicrockman]

Hey does anyone know what that thing is on Ruddess' keyboard? Is it sheet music?
That fish on his keyboard makes me laugh...:lol:

[GenuineImitation]

Hey does anyone know what that thing is on Ruddess' keyboard? Is it sheet music?


I think its like a computer screen that displays the sheet music.

[Happy]

I think its like a computer screen that displays the sheet music.
:-/ Weird. I don't see why he needs it. doesn't he learn the songs or something?

[GenuineImitation]

:-/ Weird. I don't see why he needs it. doesn't he learn the songs or something?


It must be hard to learn all the parts to a song like A Change of Seasons. Its probably there to give him a reminder of what is coming up next in the song.

[heavy metal kid]

:-/ Weird. I don't see why he needs it. doesn't he learn the songs or something?


It's very difficult to learn all the notes of Dream Theater on keys, besides he doesn't play only keyboards, he does a lot of things.

[ghettoeddo]

if you look closely, it is sheet music. but jordan said on budokan on the keyboard world thingy that he uses it as reminders to tell him what's coming up next, cuz he has the most complicated job out of all the members.

maybe im just a noob, but his rig totally blew me away. i couldn't follow half the things he said.


on a side note, my brother (he's 11) thinks linkin park and green day is better than dream theater because they "look cooler." goes to show that image is half of the package these days...

[ghettoeddo]

That fish on his keyboard makes me laugh...:lol:

his fish is actually in integral part of his live rig. sometimes, if you watch carefully, he'll reach around and touch the mouth of it. and then you get...

i ran out of ideas. not that i had one to begin with :upset:

[emo is so cool]

if you look closely, it is sheet music. but jordan said on budokan on the keyboard world thingy that he uses it as reminders to tell him what's coming up next, cuz he has the most complicated job out of all the members.

maybe im just a noob, but his rig totally blew me away. i couldn't follow half the things he said.


on a side note, my brother (he's 11) thinks linkin park and green day is better than dream theater because they "look cooler." goes to show that image is half of the package these days...

uhh....he's 11, what do you expect? lolz

[shamed-angel]

uhh....he's 11, what do you expect? lolz
I'd rather an 11 year old kid like that didn't like the same music as me...

Has anyone seen on the Live Scenes DVD, when there's an instrumental solo without him, and Jordan Rudess gets given what looks like a pizza box? That made me laugh so much.

[Lord Abortion]

I really must watch Budokan today...I slept until 1:30 though :p
My 11 year old brother has good music taste, apart from he likes ACDC...

He occasionally goes "That's just too much" when DT do something incredibly fancy on LSFNY when we watch it.

NP-Beyond this life

[Happy]

It's very difficult to learn all the notes of Dream Theater on keys, besides he doesn't play only keyboards, he does a lot of things.
Yeah I guess so. Thinking about it he does do a hell of a lot.

[GenuineImitation]

I really must watch Budokan today...I slept until 1:30 though :p
My 11 year old brother has good music taste, apart from he likes ACDC...

He occasionally goes "That's just too much" when DT do something incredibly fancy on LSFNY when we watch it.

NP-Beyond this life


I like AC/DC :mad:

Anyway, I got my 47 year old dad and 14 year old sister hooked on Dream Theater and Pink Floyd. Im working on Metallica, Symphony X and Rush as of now.

[scenesfromatheater]

Wow, I like this new skin.

I've got one guy into DT at my school. My dad won't get into them cause he thinks Bono and The Edge are some of the greatest musicians ever...retard. He liked I Walk Beside You however, you'd expect him to though really.

NP-Surrounded

[Lord Abortion]

Man, I love surrounded, is it the LATM version?

[shamed-angel]

Man, I love surrounded, is it the LATM version?
His singing on LATM is unrivalled anywhere else in his live career if you ask me.

[scenesfromatheater]

Isn't some of the vocals on that done again though?

[ghettoeddo]

six! six six! the number of the beeeaast!

does anyone have WDADU to upload? i cant find it in local stores/the internet :-(

[MidnightRider]

The only DT songs I have are Pull Me Under and Overture 1928, and I love both of them. I really wanna hear some more of their stuff, what's a good cd to start with?

[Deth]

Probably Images & Words or Scenes From a Memory.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, Train of thought would also be an idea if you want a more traditional Metal album...

[shamed-angel]

I think you should buy Scenes From a Memory. That's what I'd reccomend as an intro to DT to anyone.

[Happy]

I think you should buy Scenes From a Memory. That's what I'd reccomend as an intro to DT to anyone.
Especially if he likes Overture 1928.
Yeah my DVD came today. It's brilliant.

[classicrockman]

Does anyone have the link to those Octavarium nuggets?

[MidnightRider]

Thanks for the help guys, I'll probably get Scenes From a Memory. They have it for like 7.99 at this used record store.

[GenuineImitation]

Does anyone have the link to those Octavarium nuggets?



http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

There you go.

[nowitzki]

Isn't some of the vocals on that done again though?

Yes, a lot of it was re-recorded.

[shamed-angel]

Especially if he likes Overture 1928.
Yeah my DVD came today. It's brilliant.
I bought that the day it came out. :D

[ghettoeddo]

happy, what DVD did you get?

[Happy]

happy, what DVD did you get?
LSFNY. It's my first DT DVD :cool:

[Firecracker]

I nearly bought LATM today, but i didn't have enough money.
NP: The Mirror.

[ghettoeddo]

how're you likin LSFNY? i might pick that one up next.

i'd still strongly recommend budokan :] you get JP and JR's rig setups also

[Happy]

how're you likin LSFNY? i might pick that one up next.

i'd still strongly recommend budokan :] you get JP and JR's rig setups also
It's brilliant. The extra songs just make it that much better. I highly reccomend it. The commentary is pretty funny too.
I saw a video of SOC at Budokan. I almost creamed. I'm definately getting that.

[Firecracker]

I love LSFNY, my friend has borrrowed it at the moment, well since September, but i miss it and want it back. I want to see TDOE again.

[Lord Abortion]

LSFNY is brilliant.
The version of ACOS on there is simply magnificent, James' vocals are pretty wow.

[Happy]

LSFNY is brilliant.
The version of ACOS on there is simply magnificent, James' vocals are pretty wow.
So are his trousers.

[Lord Abortion]

Hahaha

He does have pretty cool trousers on.

[classicrockman]

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

There you go.
Thanks a bundle man. :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

pooty tang~!

uhh...i saw "just friends" and "rumor has it" the past 2 days. mediocre-ly funny movies. im in love with jennifer aniston.

and john petrucci. no matter how much he's accused of wanking, showing off, being soulless, i love him and i want his 3 babies. because he still plays the stuffin outta that guitar better than you or i ever will.

it's late.

[Happy]

pooty tang~!

uhh...i saw "just friends" and "rumor has it" the past 2 days. mediocre-ly funny movies. im in love with jennifer aniston.

and john petrucci. no matter how much he's accused of wanking, showing off, being soulless, i love him and i want his 3 babies. because he still plays the stuffin outta that guitar better than you or i ever will.

it's late.
Was John Petrucci in either of these movies?

[Lord Abortion]

Probably not.

It would be highly amusing if he was.

EDIT:Has anyone noticed that at just over 3 minutes into his once in a livetime drum solo, Portnoy starts playing 6:00?

I thought that was cool

/mentally added guitar part :(

[temporary]

LSFNY is brilliant.
The version of ACOS on there is simply magnificent, James' vocals are pretty wow.

Thats gods own truth. And Pretucci's solo starting from about eighteen minutes in is just... holy ****. I almost never listen to the studio version now.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I'm going to order the CD version so I can put it on my awesome new 20 GB mp3 player I'm getting for my Birthday.

[temporary]

Yeah, I'm going to order the CD version so I can put it on my awesome new 20 GB mp3 player I'm getting for my Birthday.

The CD version has a bunch of great songs that aren't on the DVD like Metropolis, Another Day, The Mirror, etc. Learning to Live and ACOS are still the highlights. I love the way Rudess extends the keyboard solo before the vocals come in towards the end of LTL.

[Lord Abortion]

The CD version has a bunch of great songs that aren't on the DVD like Metropolis, Another Day, The Mirror, etc. Learning to Live and ACOS are still the highlights. I love the way Rudess extends the keyboard solo before the vocals come in towards the end of LTL.
Whoa whoa whoa.
Another day?!

/orders right now!

[temporary]

Whoa whoa whoa.
Another day?!

/orders right now!

Yeah, and you get the video with the CD (at least I did, if you don't I'll send it to you.)

[ghettoeddo]

so the CD is a better deal than the DVD?

cuz i still kinda want the DVD...

and happy, JP was NOT in those movies. although he and his guitar would've brought massive sex appeal to both. ok maybe just his guitar.

[nowitzki]

The CD is better than the DVD, but still you can't watch the band play on a CD.

[Lord Abortion]

I just ordered the CD and WDADU.

the CD was a little more expensive than I would wish, (£12) but hey, I have Christmas money and want a live version of another day.
Simple as that, really.

[nowitzki]

That's not bad for 3 discs, it is their best live album, except for the fact that JLB's vocals are a bit dodgy at times.

[Lord Abortion]

I really think he's great on that album, where do you think he sounds bad?

[ghettoeddo]

did you just order it off amazon? cuz their prices are usually...iffy.

[Lord Abortion]

Amazon Marketplace... much cheaper.

[ghettoeddo]

aiite thanks. ima pick it up as well :] both CD and DVD

[emo is so cool]

Is octavarium DT's last CD? im pretty sure it is, with all the references to past songs and references to circles (like how the last few seconds of Octavarium sound exactly like the beginning of The Root of All Evil, Labrie saying "Only to find I've come full circle"), and the "epic-ness" of Octavarium. Is it official? Because im pretty sure its the last.

[shamed-angel]

Yeah, and you get the video with the CD (at least I did, if you don't I'll send it to you.)
I didn't... could you send it to me please man?

[red barchetta]

Amazon Marketplace... much cheaper.
what a coincidence, i just did the exact same thing last week

[Happy]

Is octavarium DT's last CD? im pretty sure it is, with all the references to past songs and references to circles (like how the last few seconds of Octavarium sound exactly like the beginning of The Root of All Evil, Labrie saying "Only to find I've come full circle"), and the "epic-ness" of Octavarium. Is it official? Because im pretty sure its the last.
Nah it shouldn't be.

I hope not anyway.

[eighty d]

Is octavarium DT's last CD? im pretty sure it is, with all the references to past songs and references to circles (like how the last few seconds of Octavarium sound exactly like the beginning of The Root of All Evil, Labrie saying "Only to find I've come full circle"), and the "epic-ness" of Octavarium. Is it official? Because im pretty sure its the last.

the beginning of the root of all evil is also the end of in the name of god. just like the beginning of as i am is the end of six degrees of inner turbulence. and i think if i remember correctly the beginning of the glass prison is the end of finally free.

as for octavarium being epic, so was a change of seasons. and six degrees of inner turbulence. and i think the ending part of in the name of god is the most epic thing dream theater has ever written.

so no, i don't think it's their last.

plus, why would portnoy leave off after only seven steps of AA?

[Firecracker]

They're such great musicians, they'll go on like Maiden have.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

So I just finnished listening to Octavarium for the first time. I must say...

WOW! That song is amazing.

I just don't completely understand what the song is about. Can anybody help.

EDIT
http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

There you go.

Never mind this explained it. Thanks.

[MidnightRider]

I picked up Images and Words yesterday, it's pretty good, Petrucci is incredible. I'll post what I think of it later on, after I get a few proper listens in.

[ghettoeddo]

8vm is NOT their last CD. portnoy officially stated they're up for more albums.

would be sad if they closed their career with a mediocre-ish album like 8vm.

it's gross how good myung is.

and i have a question about the instrumedley multi-angle thing...i play it, but it's the exact smae camera angle as the regular concert footage. how do i change angles?

[eighty d]

there should be an angle button on your dvd remote. i don't like the multi-angle thing. i think the budokan dvd was already edited just about perfect. the regular concert angles do it for me.

[Blue Collar Man]

8vm is NOT their last CD. portnoy officially stated they're up for more albums.

would be sad if they closed their career with a mediocre-ish album like 8vm.

it's gross how good myung is.

and i have a question about the instrumedley multi-angle thing...i play it, but it's the exact smae camera angle as the regular concert footage. how do i change angles?

There is a button on most dvd remotes with a camera on it or something that says angle or something like that. You push it to change angles.

/randomly starts posting in the DT thread

EDIT: Beat to it:upset:

[emo is so cool]

does anyone have the guitar powertab file for "The Spirit Carries On"? i so wanna learn that song.

[temporary]

I didn't... could you send it to me please man?

Sure, whats your email?

[IbanezSamurai]

So, will DT continue touring North America after their gig in NY?

[ghettoeddo]

^ that's what i REALLY wanna know...

that's the last gig for this particular tour. so...either we gotta wait for a new album or they'll be cool and do a 2nd octavarium leg...

[ghettoeddo]

does anyone have the guitar powertab file for "The Spirit Carries On"? i so wanna learn that song.

we've been asked not to distribute/share powertab files. but whatever guys :]

[IbanezSamurai]

^ that's what i REALLY wanna know...

that's the last gig for this particular tour. so...either we gotta wait for a new album or they'll be cool and do a 2nd octavarium leg...

That would suck, I didnt go to gigantour beacause I didnt want to sit through 20 other band that I dont give a crap about while waiting for Dream Theater, plus they would probably play all the stuff off their new album instead of the classics.

But yeah, it would kick *** if they did "Evening With" tour in the US.

PS. I've read somewhere that MP was gonna post something tonight, what could it be?

[Blue Collar Man]

That would suck, I didnt go to gigantour beacause I didnt want to sit through 20 other band that I dont give a crap about while waiting for Dream Theater, plus they would probably play all the stuff off their new album instead of the classics.

But yeah, it would kick *** if they did "Evening With" tour in the US.

PS. I've read somewhere that MP was gonna post something tonight, what could it be?

Post something where?

[IbanezSamurai]

Post something where?

On his website.

[ghettoeddo]

did anyone ever find what he supposedly posted on christmas morning at 6?

and ibanez, for gigantour, they actualy didnt play too much offof 8vm. but yea, setlists were really small :(
'twas still worth it. i spent $40 to see dream theater and half of megadeth. i'd spend much more than that...

[Triangle]

8vm is NOT their last CD. portnoy officially stated they're up for more albums.

would be sad if they closed their career with a mediocre-ish album like 8vm.

it's gross how good myung is.

and i have a question about the instrumedley multi-angle thing...i play it, but it's the exact smae camera angle as the regular concert footage. how do i change angles?
I think I read somewhere that they're going to do about 10 albums.

The 3 CD Live Scenes was the first DT album I bought. :cool:

[Firecracker]

The first DT song i heard was 'In The Name Of God' and i didn't want to check any other songs out because i loved that song so much i couldn't stop listening to it, and if the other songs weren't as good i would lose my liking for them.
But after a while i checked out 'Images & Words' and my my i'm glad i did.

[Triangle]

Pull Me Under was the song that got me into DT. That chorus and riffage is very hard to resist. :p

[Happy]

I heard Hell's Kitchen first and didn't like it much. A few months later I heard SOC and after that I loved them.

[FuS!on]

Liquid tension =]

[Happy]

Liquid tension =]
Speaking of that, I got my LTE CDs yestersday :D

[JamJar]

Pull Me Under was the song that got me into DT. That chorus and riffage is very hard to resist. :p

Ditto, looking back on it it's certainly not the greatest on I&W but one of DT's funnest songs!

[Blue Collar Man]

When I first got I&W I didn't like Pull Me Under at all for some reason.:confused:

[emo is so cool]

the first time i heard dream theaterr was when i bought "scenes from a memory" i listened to it, and heard "close you eyes and as i count to 10 you will go to a more relaxed state of mind" i thought "what the hell is this?!?!?!?" and thought it was gonna suck ***. but then i listened to strange deja vu and <3'd them instantly.

[Locke]

Oww I found the official thread :D

I Was woundering if anyone could suggest the next DT album I get, I've only been listening to them recently. (I'm a drummer and someone told me about Mike Portnoy and sent me As I Am so I therefore brought the whole of Train of Thought.) I also got Images and Words after hearing Take the Time.

So can anyone suggest the next one I should get?

[emo is so cool]

Oww I found the official thread :D

I Was woundering if anyone could suggest the next DT album I get, I've only been listening to them recently. (I'm a drummer and someone told me about Mike Portnoy and sent me As I Am so I therefore brought the whole of Train of Thought.) I also got Images and Words after hearing Take the Time.

So can anyone suggest the next one I should get?

scenes from a memory is the best cd ever made

[Lord of Sword]

8vm is NOT their last CD. portnoy officially stated they're up for more albums.

would be sad if they closed their career with a mediocre-ish album like 8vm.

has anyone else ever listened to the commentary on 5YIALT? portnoy says during the unplugged section that he was going to just quit the band once that tour was over, but then they brought jordan into the band and kept on going. i'd never even heard of this before, but it does mean that DT could have ended with FII as their last album.

[gillygan]

Pull Me Under was the song that got me into DT. That chorus and riffage is very hard to resist. :p



Ya the first DT song i heard was pull me under on the radio. Then i bought images and words and its awsome. Then i heard trian of thought on the gigantour website. that song is awsome. They need to put the music back on their they ad some really good songs.



Arg, i just downloaded trian of though off a mailing list and now i need to gewt software to listen to it.:mad:

[ghettoeddo]

Arg, i just downloaded trian of though off a mailing list and now i need to gewt software to listen to it.:mad:

^ winRAR eh?
not sure how to work it yet :] spock's beard's "octane" is just taunting me.

if JR was the reason DT kept going after FII...then he's my new favorite member.:smash:

watching myung makes me sick. i've just been watching the metropolis bass solo over and over again.

[Dimebag Dom]

Yeh Woo Dream Theater, fav song in the name of god.

[Happy]

has anyone else ever listened to the commentary on 5YIALT? portnoy says during the unplugged section that he was going to just quit the band once that tour was over, but then they brought jordan into the band and kept on going. i'd never even heard of this before, but it does mean that DT could have ended with FII as their last album.
Weird. I'm glad they kept going.
You think if Portnoy quit DT he would've carried on with LTE?

[Aaron_Of_Oz]

the first song i heard of dream theater was "pull me under" and i swear to god by the end of that song i looked at my brother and said "dream theater are one of the best bands i have ever heard". that tag still stays with them for me i love everything about them. the way john petrucci cracks out his metal influenced riffs and mike portney smacking those drums.......oh **** get me a towel:p i love dream theater

[JamJar]

the first song i heard of dream theater was "pull me under" and i swear to god by the end of that song i looked at my brother and said "dream theater are one of the best bands i have ever heard". that tag still stays with them for me i love everything about them. the way john petrucci cracks out his metal influenced riffs and mike portney smacking those drums.......oh **** get me a towel:p i love dream theater

Heh, I know what you mean. My old guitar teacher showed me that song and I was just amazed, then he copied I&W for me. They were the first progressive band that I really listened to.

[nowitzki]

Weird. I'm glad they kept going.
You think if Portnoy quit DT he would've carried on with LTE?

Portnoy drums on so many albums I'm sure he would have found things to keep him busy (LTE, Transatlantic, OSI etc).
It wouldn't have surprised me if the band had finished if they didn't get JR to replace Sherinian, the band were seriously heading downhill.

[Lord Abortion]

I find that odd with Portnoy.
I mean, since he's really the leader, spokesperson and main conceptualist for the band, it would be difficult to see DT without him.

[bwnstl]

I don't think they would have continued. He's said somewhere where basically the band almost broke up after FII due to all the bull**** the record company made them go through during that period.

[red barchetta]

meh, whatever reason they had, its good that they continued.

it allowed them to record SDOIT :cool:

[GenuineImitation]

The first song I heard by DT was Pull Me Under, followed by Lie and Under a Glassmoon. I instantley got hooked.

[Triangle]

meh, whatever reason they had, its good that they continued.

it allowed them to record SDOIT :cool:
Which is one of my fav albums by them. I <3 the 2nd disk too much.

[eighty d]

I don't think they would have continued. He's said somewhere where basically the band almost broke up after FII due to all the bull**** the record company made them go through during that period.

it wasn't just the record company ****, he said that dream theater was becoming somewhat of a joke band at that point. all the nightmare cinema and nicky lemons and the migraines stuff.

[IbanezSamurai]

First song I heard was One Last Time, then Overture 1928.
But yeah, I hope they will do 10 more albums before they retire, look at Rolling Stones.

[scenesfromatheater]

has anyone else ever listened to the commentary on 5YIALT? portnoy says during the unplugged section that he was going to just quit the band once that tour was over, but then they brought jordan into the band and kept on going. i'd never even heard of this before, but it does mean that DT could have ended with FII as their last album.

Yeah I watched it with commentary about a week ago. He blames everything basically on the record label. Most of the album was cut down because of the producer cause there label didn't let them produce it themselves. Also, all the songs written on FII by Portnoy are about the record label, E.g You Not Me, New Millenium, Burning My Soul, Take Away My Pain.

[Happy]

Yeah I watched it with commentary about a week ago. He blames everything basically on the record label. Most of the album was cut down because of the producer cause there label didn't let them produce it themselves. Also, all the songs written on FII by Portnoy are about the record label, E.g You Not Me, New Millenium, Burning My Soul, Take Away My Pain.
You Not Me and Take Away My Pain are written by Petrucci though.

[scenesfromatheater]

First song I heard was One Last Time, then Overture 1928.
But yeah, I hope they will do 10 more albums before they retire, look at Rolling Stones.
Their tours had better have better sets than the 8V tour, they played most of the album and probably the worst two songs off the best two albums (Under a Glass Moon and Caught in a Web)

[temporary]

Their tours had better have better sets than the 8V tour, they played most of the album and probably the worst two songs off the best two albums (Under a Glass Moon and Caught in a Web)

What, Under A Glass Moon is awesome!

[GenuineImitation]

What, Under A Glass Moon is awesome!

Its one of my favorite songs.



NP: DT - Voices

[Darkness]

Damn, I haven't listened to DT in soooo long...

I guess I've been to pre occupied with less wanky bands.

/runs

:lol: Seriously though, I need to throw Awake in sometime today...

[Lord Abortion]

My card got rejected by Amazon, because the money I put in my bank account before New year hasn't gone in yet...
So no LSFNY CD for me for a few days. :(

[GenuineImitation]

My card got rejected by Amazon, because the money I put in my bank account before New year hasn't gone in yet...
So no LSFNY CD for me for a few days. :(



That stinks. At least its only a few extra days.

[Happy]

What's on the LSFNY CD, the whole concert?

[GenuineImitation]

What's on the LSFNY CD, the whole concert?


Not sure. I have never heard it, but I have hear its good.


NP: DT - Space Dye Vest

[emo is so cool]

wow, The Answer Lies Within is probably the best track in Octavarium. Either that or Octavarium. but The Answer Lies Within is greaaaaaaaaaat. =)

[eighty d]

Their tours had better have better sets than the 8V tour, they played most of the album and probably the worst two songs off the best two albums (Under a Glass Moon and Caught in a Web)

under a glass moon > pull me under

labrie hits some ungodly high notes in that chorus. and petrucci's solo kicks ultimate ***.

[temporary]

What's on the LSFNY CD, the whole concert?

Yep, spread over three CDs. Its quite an album.

[IbanezSamurai]

under a glass moon > pull me under

labrie hits some ungodly high notes in that chorus. and petrucci's solo kicks ultimate ***.

Indeed, that is one of my most favorite solos by Mr. Petrucci.

[nowitzki]

under a glass moon > pull me under

labrie hits some ungodly high notes in that chorus. and petrucci's solo kicks ultimate ***.

Yes, but Every other song on I&W > those 2

[Blue Collar Man]

I remember the first time I discovered Dream Theater. At the time I had been listening to and Led Zeppelin and stuff like but someone reccomended me I&W. I was so blown away I never really listened to any "classic r:rolleyes:ck again. Those were good times.

[eighty d]

Yes, but Every other song on I&W > those 2

to be honest take the time has never done much for me.

when i first got images and words another day and under a glass moon were my favorites. now the only two songs that i don't absolutely love are pull me under and take the time. wait for sleep/learning to live is the only one of the others that really jumps out as my favorite.

[Blue Collar Man]

Anybody remember listening to Metropolis pt. 1 for the first time and being blown away? :eek: