Dream Theater

[ThunderBass]

no one seems to like finally free.
that's a great song on its own...

indeed it is... personally i love it...

[Chu]

Well, not Just DT's performance makes it better...the fact that the original album is a hell of a lot better than a sub-par Metallica album may help, there
:evil: :angry:

Oh well, Dream Theater could nail most things pretty well, if not better then the original....

[Lord Abortion]

:evil: :angry:

Oh well, Dream Theater could nail most things pretty well, if not better then the original....
Come on...Puppets is nowhere near as good as Kill 'em All...

[ThunderBass]

Puppets pwns Kill em all IMO...

[nowitzki]

I probably find myself listening to Kill Em All more often, but MoP is a better album.

[scenesfromatheater]

Don't like Metallica. DT > Any Metallica album

[Happy]

Don't like Metallica. DT > Any Metallica album
Even though I love Metallica I agree 100%.

[Lord Abortion]

Even though I love Metallica I agree 100%.
Metallica are good, up until oooh, halfway through AJFA...then it goes downhill.

[Happy]

Metallica are good, up until oooh, halfway through AJFA...then it goes downhill.
Nah. Up until the end of the 8th song of AJFA.

[temporary]

Metallica are good, up until oooh, halfway through AJFA...then it goes downhill.

Some of AJFA is good, and I like most of Metallica's instrumentals a lot, as well as some songs from their first four albums, but over all I'd say they're one of the most overrated bands ever. Tons of metal bands are leagues above them, and don't get half as much attention.

[Lord Abortion]

/\/\ total agreement.

They have some good songs after AJFA, but no more than 8 or 10.

[scenesfromatheater]

sayt Anga is da best album bi mtalica. folowd bi lode n relode!!!!!1one

[red barchetta]

sayt Anga is da best album bi mtalica. folowd bi lode n relode!!!!!1one
the thing is, not even the biggest metallica fanboys thought that st. anger was good :p

[nowitzki]

Yet it still managed to win a grammy :confused:
It is quite simply awful.

[ghettoeddo]

isnt' this a DT thread?

well, just to conform and jump on the bandwagon..

metallica was actually one of my favorite bands. and then i found dream theater. i don't think i've listened to a full metallica album or even song all the way through in months...

if anyone's got info on this new DVD for release, holler cuz im sure all of us would like to get our filthy hands on this sure-to-be gem :]

[ghettoeddo]

and a question...

8vm is the only album they used an actual orchestra correct?
i swear there are some parts in songs like 6DOIT (overture especially) and vacant (the cello) where the strings sound authentic. i mean, i know technology is awesome, but no technology can truly emulate the tone and variation in vibrato speed/color.

[GenuineImitation]

I love early Metallica stuff, including the black album. I think their newer stuff is ok, but not great. Escpecially St. Anger.

[Lord Abortion]

Anyone know where I can get a non-SFAM shirt?

I'll have to Ebay it...

[bwnstl]

the thing is, not even the biggest metallica fanboys thought that st. anger was good :p

Actually, the album was fantastic except for one GLARING thing that ruined the entire album and everything good about it: the production quality. Otherwise it was a solid release.

[GenuineImitation]

Anyone know where I can get a non-SFAM shirt?

I'll have to Ebay it...


www.infinity1.com has another DT shirt. They have a small DT shirt collection though.

[Chu]

Come on...Puppets is nowhere near as good as Kill 'em All...
Ride The Lightning > No Life 'Til Leather > Kill 'em All > Master ...

But they're all equally amazing albums ...

[nowitzki]

and a question...

8vm is the only album they used an actual orchestra correct?
i swear there are some parts in songs like 6DOIT (overture especially) and vacant (the cello) where the strings sound authentic. i mean, i know technology is awesome, but no technology can truly emulate the tone and variation in vibrato speed/color.

I know a real cellist is used on Vacant. I'm not sure about when a full orchestra has been used, but I have a feeling there could also be one on Finally Free.

[scenesfromatheater]

Anyone know where I can get a non-SFAM shirt?

I'll have to Ebay it...

When I checked on Ebay, there were quite a few TOT tour shirts. And some I&W shirts...nice.

[the2stranger]

and a question...

8vm is the only album they used an actual orchestra correct?
i swear there are some parts in songs like 6DOIT (overture especially) and vacant (the cello) where the strings sound authentic. i mean, i know technology is awesome, but no technology can truly emulate the tone and variation in vibrato speed/color.

6doit uses an actual orchestra too, it was conducted by mr. Ruddes.
and the Cello on vacant is authentical too.

and of course can't forget the sax on Another Day (not an orchestra but still awesome)

[scenesfromatheater]

and of course can't forget the sax on Another Day (not an orchestra but still awesome)

Ain't it one of those Clarinet things?

[Lord Abortion]

I'm going to get a ToT one off Ebay...

[scenesfromatheater]

I'm going to get a ToT one off Ebay...
They were a fiver for unofficial ones outside the gig last month.

[Happy]

and of course can't forget the sax on Another Day (not an orchestra but still awesome)
I always pictured it as a woman playing the sax but it was a bloke.

[red barchetta]

Ain't it one of those Clarinet things?
clarinets have a lower sound.

[Happy]

It says in the booklet Saxaphone on Another Day played by some dude. Not exact wording.

[Lord Abortion]

Bugger, I just lent mine out to a Mate, in an attempt to get him to love DT, so I can't check.

[scenesfromatheater]

He better like 'em ...or else...

[Lord Abortion]

Tell him yourself, he's Shadow_Stalker on here...

[Happy]

I lent mine out for about 4 days. It was a sad 4 days for me.

[Happy]

I lent mine out for about 4 days. It was a sad 4 days for me.

[Lord Abortion]

I have it on my comp and minidisk...I'll cope, right?

[ghettoeddo]

got all my DT on my iPod nano :] they suck...4GB only. DT takes up a good chunk of it.

where do you get smileys? been awhile since i've been here.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm getting a 20GB creative Zen for Christmas, DT will be one of the first things on there :D

[Happy]

I need an MP3 player. The last one I got angry at and broke.

P.S. Thanks for the rep Ollie.

[nowitzki]

clarinets have a lower sound.

No they don't they are higher than saxaphones.

The guy who plays it is called Berlinger or something I think.

[red barchetta]

No they don't they are higher than saxaphones.

The guy who plays it is called Berlinger or something I think.
i swear they don't...

depends on what type of sax you're talking about though. alto saxs have a much higher sound than clarinets

[scenesfromatheater]

Suprano, alto, tenor, baritone...who gives a jefferys anyway?

[shamed-angel]

It says in the booklet Saxaphone on Another Day played by some dude. Not exact wording.
Jay Beckenstein. It says on the Live in Tokyo DVD. And in the album.

[GenuineImitation]

I'm getting a 20GB creative Zen for Christmas, DT will be one of the first things on there :D


Lucky. I got an iPod instead and it has been nothing but headaches.


Home work has been killer for the past month, but the last two days I haven't gone to bed before 2 in the morning. I think the teachers are trying to see whcih kid snaps first. At least I have DT to make it somewhat enjoyable.

[Deth]

Lucky. I got an iPod instead and it has been nothing but headaches.

I've never had a problem with mine. Also, I think they are the easiest to use out of the hard disk MP3 players. I love the little guy.

[GenuineImitation]

I've never had a problem with mine. Also, I think they are the easiest to use out of the hard disk MP3 players. I love the little guy.


Im on my third iPod. I guess Im just unlucky. The first one got fried during a thunder storm (it was charging while it slept). Not apple's fault, but the warranty was up so I had to buy a new one. The second one just stopped working and Apple said the couldnt fix it again. Im on my third and about a month after getting it, I heard that the Zen is much better.

It is very easy to use, but I have never used any other.

[ghettoeddo]

No they don't they are higher than saxaphones.

The guy who plays it is called Berlinger or something I think.

clarinets play in the same clef/range as saxes. unless it's a bass clarinet or baritone sax, which is obviously lower.

take it from a guy who's played in orchestras his whole life

[ghettoeddo]

the ipod nanos have the shortest battery life.

i ran through SFAM and 6DOIT and it was in the red :upset:

[shamed-angel]

Im on my third iPod. I guess Im just unlucky. The first one got fried during a thunder storm (it was charging while it slept). Not apple's fault, but the warranty was up so I had to buy a new one. The second one just stopped working and Apple said the couldnt fix it again. Im on my third and about a month after getting it, I heard that the Zen is much better.

It is very easy to use, but I have never used any other.
My ipod's ****ed, so currys are just giving me a new one. :)

[Lord Abortion]

Watched the commentary on LSFNY last night.

Laughed at the mockery of LaBrie's accent, everytime he said "aboot" and the various *** and balls jokes.

'twas cool and very interesting too...yo.

[Happy]

I'm gonna put that on my Christmas list too.

[nowitzki]

I'm getting a 20GB creative Zen for Christmas, DT will be one of the first things on there :D

I have a 30GB Creative Zen Xtra, its not quite as sleek as an iPod, but was a great purchase, much cheaper than a similar capacity iPod.

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, but it's the size of a cassette player...

[nowitzki]

At least I still don't use a portable CD player...

[Happy]

At least I still don't use a portable CD player...
Hey! :mad:

[scenesfromatheater]

At least I still don't use a portable CD player...

At least....at least....at....:upset: .

[progdrumman]

hey cds are still cool!!

[Lord Abortion]

Yep, I wish I had a working CD player at all.
Mine is terrible, won't play at all sometimes, and it has to be at a certain volume otherwise the speakers don't work properly.

[Happy]

Yep, I wish I had a working CD player at all.
Mine is terrible, won't play at all sometimes, and it has to be at a certain volume otherwise the speakers don't work properly.
Mine's stupidly quiet. Even at full volume I struggle to hear it.

[Toaster]

I love CD players. The only reason I don't use mine constantly is because I'd spend hundreds on batteries.

I have a Nano. :D

[Lord Abortion]

Could somebody explain the "Metropolis '96" thing that the band were talking about on LSFNY?

[eighty d]

that was when they started playing around with the idea of a sequel to metropolis part one. they had some material together, but not all of it made the cut when they actually recorded the album. i think a bootleg of some of it got out at one point too.

[Lord Abortion]

I see, has anyone got the wonderful sounding Tokyo '95 bootleg?
the one with the maiden covers and the acoustic wait for sleep?

[scenesfromatheater]

No, I have the MOP live in Barcelona bootleg and NOTB bootleg.

[Lord Abortion]

http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=15
This one sounds magnificent.

[scenesfromatheater]

Is that the one where they had all the guest people like Barney Greenway and the guy from Yes???

[Lord Abortion]

There's a one with Adler and Bruce Dickinson.
and there's also the performance of WDADU from '04 with Derek Sherinan and the guy with the wierd name I can't remember.

NP-A change of seasons

[Happy]

There's a one with Adler and Bruce Dickinson.
and there's also the performance of WDADU from '04 with Derek Sherinan and the guy with the wierd name I can't remember.

NP-A change of seasons
You mean the first DT singer?

[scenesfromatheater]

Listening to Live Scenes today, I can't imagine how tired they all would have been by the end...then they had to do LTL....and THEN play all of ACOS.

Doesn't it say on the DVD that Portnoy had to go to hospital after of something?

[Lord Abortion]

That night was two sets.

Is the a mind beside itself trilogy+ learning to live not the encore to one set
and ACOS the encore to the other?

I'm sure a couple of bandmembers are wearing different shirts and JP has a different guitar, I'm sure of that.

Yeah, Portnoy was Ill as hell and nearly had to go to hospital afterwords.

[scenesfromatheater]

Well you get the whole thing on the CD so I'm not sure. They definatly say on the DVD that they did 2 shows, but I don't know if they were both put on the CD and DVD. At Wolverhapton they changed clothing and what-not at the interval so... i dunno. Never thought it was to shows combined.

[Lord Abortion]

I just thought, since ACOS isn't on the original VHS, and the total time of AMBI and LIL is around the same as ACOS, that would be the most likely explanation

:lol: at Labrie "sorry aboot the short set"

[scenesfromatheater]

:lol: at Labrie "sorry aboot the short set"

Canadian accent intended?

[Lord Abortion]

Canadian accent intended?
Yep

/wants a Jordan Rudess action figure

[horseypie]

who doesnt?

[Triangle]

That commentary is great. It's funny when they rip Myung about him not talking.

[Happy]

who doesnt?
It'd scare the **** out of me.

[red barchetta]

That commentary is great. It's funny when they rip Myung about him not talking.
oh yeah, i love the commentry

'whats that on your bass?'
'you don't know? it's the infinity symbol'
'...I knew that'

[Happy]

oh yeah, i love the commentry

'whats that on your bass?'
'you don't know? it's the infinity symbol'
'...I knew that'
:lol:
Poor Myung.

[scenesfromatheater]

"What's that your playing there John?"

"Bass"

:lol:

I think that might be on Once in a Livetime?

[Lord Abortion]

must...buy...more DVD....

[IbanezSamurai]

(During Silent Man video) *Mike "Hey John, whats that bass you're playing there"
*John "It's a guitar"

[scenesfromatheater]

Haha. What videos do DT have again>

I can remember

Lie
Pull me Under
Hollow Years
Take the Time
?

[IbanezSamurai]

Haha. What videos do DT have again>

I can remember

Lie
Pull me Under
Hollow Years
Take the Time
?


Pull me under
Take The Time
Another Day
Lie
Silent man
Hollow years

[scenesfromatheater]

Silent Man and Hollow Years? The fools. The Silent Man is one of my favourite DT songs but it's just a waste of money making a video for a song like that.

[eighty d]

That night was two sets.

Is the a mind beside itself trilogy+ learning to live not the encore to one set
and ACOS the encore to the other?

i think the first set is scenes, and the second is the one with a mind beside itself etc. and a change of seasons for an encore.

one of the best myung commentary quotes (from images&words in tokyo):

mike: john myung on stage left!
john: i think they had some good cookies over there.

[Lord Abortion]

"The Canuck takes a bow!"

[ghettoeddo]

im so outta the loop....need more DVD's...

[nowitzki]

I wanted to get some things from Ytse Jam records, but it wont accept my credit card :upset:

[Happy]

I have this weird song labelled under This Dying Soul. I checked the lyrics of all the songs I don't have by them to this song and none of them match. I've had this song for ages but only just realised it's not DT. Anyone care to check it out for me? I'll send it to you.

[Lord Abortion]

I wanted to get some things from Ytse Jam records, but it wont accept my credit card :upset:
It's only for the americans, unfortunately, I think.

Jevi- yeah, go ahead.

[GenuineImitation]

I have this weird song labelled under This Dying Soul. I checked the lyrics of all the songs I don't have by them to this song and none of them match. I've had this song for ages but only just realised it's not DT. Anyone care to check it out for me? I'll send it to you.


Sure. Email it to me at rock15guitarist@aol.com

[Happy]

Umm can I ask Ollie to e-mail it to you? I've lost the link :(

[Lord Abortion]

Sure thing

done.

[GenuineImitation]

Thanks. I hope I can help.






Sorry I cant help. I have no idea who's song this could be. Its not bad though.

[scenesfromatheater]

Let's 'ave a listen then please :thumb:

Dream.Theater.Awake@gmail.com

[GenuineImitation]

Let's 'ave a listen then please :thumb:

Dream.Theater.Awake@gmail.com



I'll send it.

EDIT: Sent

[scenesfromatheater]

What the family? How come I keep on getting bad reputation? I've got -75 rep points now.

I lost -15 points yesterday cause I posted in the 'Rep Thread Mk. II' and said "Rep me cause I've got -60 points...:naughty:"

I'm just getting lower points all the time...:upset:

[red barchetta]

What the family? How come I keep on getting bad reputation? I've got -75 rep points now.

I lost -15 points yesterday cause I posted in the 'Rep Thread Mk. II' and said "Rep me cause I've got -60 points...:naughty:"

I'm just getting lower points all the time...:upset:
here's something to think about:

rep means nothing in real life

[scenesfromatheater]

here's something to think about:

rep means nothing in real life

I was just wondering why the mods give it out to me for nothing.

[red barchetta]

I was just wondering why the mods give it out to me for nothing.
ah right.

some are nazis:evil:

[scenesfromatheater]

True, True

NP: Beyond This Life improve jam off Budokan

[ghettoeddo]

True, True

NP: Beyond This Life improve jam off Budokan

improv* my man :]

but BTL on budokan is an improvement from the original imo anyway.

im so clever :)

[ghettoeddo]

oh forgot. could someone send me "blind faith?"

never got it :(

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

[eighty d]

i can send blind faith.

i'll also take a listen to that song labeled this dying soul.

cranuaed@gmail.com

[The Depressed]

I have this weird song labelled under This Dying Soul. I checked the lyrics of all the songs I don't have by them to this song and none of them match. I've had this song for ages but only just realised it's not DT. Anyone care to check it out for me? I'll send it to you.

It's the second track from an album called Younique, by a band called Superior. It was released as a fake Train Of Thought 'leak', just as Elements Of Persuasion was released as a fake Octavarium 'leak'. I can't remember the track name, but if it's not that, then sod knows.

[ghettoeddo]

thx eighty d

does anyone wanna have a listen at the "blind faith" i had? it's weird. it definitely sounds like dream theater, but i definitely know most every song by them...

[Happy]

It's the second track from an album called Younique, by a band called Superior. It was released as a fake Train Of Thought 'leak', just as Elements Of Persuasion was released as a fake Octavarium 'leak'. I can't remember the track name, but if it's not that, then sod knows.
Awesome, thanks. Now I finally know.

[scenesfromatheater]

improv* my man :]

but BTL on budokan is an improvement from the original imo anyway.

im so clever :)

I meant to put improve.

<_<
>_>

[ghettoeddo]

I meant to put improve.

<_<
>_>

haha

im at school im such a rebel :rolleyes:

[shamed-angel]

thx eighty d

does anyone wanna have a listen at the "blind faith" i had? it's weird. it definitely sounds like dream theater, but i definitely know most every song by them...
Go for it, if it's DT, I'll know what it is.

[GenuineImitation]

Scenesfromatheater: Did you ever figure out what that song was I sent you?

[scenesfromatheater]

Nah, it defo ain't DT though. Doesn't sound like anyone I've heard. Sorry.

[eighty d]

thx eighty d

does anyone wanna have a listen at the "blind faith" i had? it's weird. it definitely sounds like dream theater, but i definitely know most every song by them...

without having heard it, i'd guess that it's "the way it used to be." that's what i had as blind faith before i bought the album. it's a demo they recorded for FII but didn't make the cd.

[Lord Abortion]

Oh, nice, in a raise the knife style?

[ghettoeddo]

aiite just throw those e-mail addies out and ill send it as an attachment.

[eighty d]

Oh, nice, in a raise the knife style?

i'm assuming that's another of the FII demos? i haven't heard that one, the only ones i have are speak to me, cover my eyes, and the way it used to be.

i'll take a listen to see if i recognize it. cranuaed@gmail.com

EDIT: yep, it's "the way it used to be." probably the worst dream theater song i've heard.

[ghettoeddo]

EDIT: yep, it's "the way it used to be." probably the worst dream theater song i've heard.

haha awesome. thanks a lot~

NP: through her eyes
labrie + petrucci at the end = orgasmic.

[scenesfromatheater]

Way hey, new avatar


<<<<<<<

A bit small cause I had to get it 19kb.

[Happy]

Way hey, new avatar


<<<<<<<

A bit small cause I had to get it 19kb.
It's awesome. If only it weren't so small and fast.

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, if I made it any bigger it would go over the size limit for the avatars. I made it fast to make people dizzy....muhaahaahaahaahaa...meh.

[Happy]

It's working.

[shamed-angel]

Please could someone send me cover my eyes and raise the knife? I've only heard the live version of Raise the Knife from the Octavarium tour.
change_of_seasons_89@hotmail.com
Nice one

[pizzapie88]

Please could someone send me cover my eyes and raise the knife?

Could I get These as well?

pizza_pie_88@hotmail.com

NP - Voices

[scenesfromatheater]

Has anyone elses MX not been working very well the past few days, I couldn't get on at all yesterday, and today all my subscriptions have been deleted ???

Wow, FII is now one of my favourtie DT albums! Well it's probably still one of my least favourite cause I love them all except WDADU. Take Away My Pain is an awsome song. My fave song on the album is probably Peruvian Skies and Hollow Years. I never realised what a ghood album it was.

Awake=I&W > SFAM > TOT > 6DOIT > FII > 8V > WDADU

Oh yes, it's gone up one notch.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm yet to get into it.
Same as most of 6DOIT
I'm still concerned at the amount of filler on Awake.
the first three songs, space dye vest and a mind beside it'self are brilliant.
but the rest haven't got to me yet.

[nowitzki]

I personally love everything on Awake except for 6:00. It's OK but doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest of the album.

[Lord Abortion]

I love the jazzy intro bit to 6:00... that's cool.

[scenesfromatheater]

I personally love everything on Awake except for 6:00. It's OK but doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest of the album.
123, same with PMU on I&W IMO.

[Happy]

Has anyone elses MX not been working very well the past few days, I couldn't get on at all yesterday, and today all my subscriptions have been deleted ???

Wow, FII is now one of my favourtie DT albums! Well it's probably still one of my least favourite cause I love them all except WDADU. Take Away My Pain is an awsome song. My fave song on the album is probably Peruvian Skies and Hollow Years. I never realised what a ghood album it was.

Awake=I&W > SFAM > TOT > 6DOIT > FII > 8V > WDADU

Oh yes, it's gone up one notch.
I love WDADU :upset:

[GenuineImitation]

Has anyone elses MX not been working very well the past few days, I couldn't get on at all yesterday, and today all my subscriptions have been deleted ???

Wow, FII is now one of my favourtie DT albums! Well it's probably still one of my least favourite cause I love them all except WDADU. Take Away My Pain is an awsome song. My fave song on the album is probably Peruvian Skies and Hollow Years. I never realised what a ghood album it was.

Awake=I&W > SFAM > TOT > 6DOIT > FII > 8V > WDADU

Oh yes, it's gone up one notch.

I think 8V should be higher than FII. Everything else looks right.

[scenesfromatheater]

You've twisted me arm lad...

Awake=I&W > SFAM > TOT > 6DOIT > FII = 8V > WDADU

fix'd

[GenuineImitation]

You've twisted me arm lad...

Awake=I&W > SFAM > TOT > 6DOIT > FII = 8V > WDADU

fix'd


Thats better :thumb:

[ghettoeddo]

finally, people are gettin into FII :]
the only one that really bugs me is take away my pain and lines in the sand. it drags on forever.

peruvian skies is definitely something DT should play more often...the wah solo leading into the heavy riff is perfect for headbanging :]

[nowitzki]

FII is good at times, but lets face it, there are some awful songs on there. You Not Me is terrible.

DT played Peruvian Skies when I saw them, it was very cool :cool:

[Lord of Sword]

i really like 6 degrees, even though most fans hardly ever mention it. you can't really listen to the whole of the 2nd disc as one song too often, but individually they're all good songs (except solitary shell which i never really liked). plus disc one has disappear and blind faith, which has petrucci's 2nd best solo, after UAGM.

[Darkness]

I love the first disc in 6 degrees, but I can't stand listening to very much on the second, save the odd part. I don't know why... I think the lyrics may destroy it for me.

Awake still stands as my favorite DT album, but I haven't listened to these guys in a while...

[Triangle]

I personally love everything on Awake except for 6:00. It's OK but doesn't really seem to fit in with the rest of the album.
123.

Scarred ftw.

[red barchetta]

i only like Hell's Kitchen from FII.

[Triangle]

i only like Hell's Kitchen from FII.
What about Lines In The Sand!? One of my person DT favs. That = :eek: :thumb:

[Lionheart1827]

What about Lines In The Sand!? One of my person DT favs. That = :eek: :thumb:

not to mention Trial of Tears, Peruvian Skies and Hollow Years!:thumb:

[GenuineImitation]

i really like 6 degrees, even though most fans hardly ever mention it. you can't really listen to the whole of the 2nd disc as one song too often, but individually they're all good songs (except solitary shell which i never really liked). plus disc one has disappear and blind faith, which has petrucci's 2nd best solo, after UAGM.

I love 6 degrees. I like the first disc more, but the second disc is great also.

[ghettoeddo]

hollow years is kinda...anticlimactic to me. good song and all the girls i've introduced it to love it to death, but there doesn't seem to be a high point in the song. it's just kinda flat all the way through.

in that sense, i much prefer songs like goodnight kiss, answer lies within, space-dye vest, anna lee, another day for their ballad-y stuff.

you not me isn't that bad is it? i think lines in the sand is more unbearable. far too long for something that isn't that interesting.

[temporary]

I'm yet to get into it.
Same as most of 6DOIT
I'm still concerned at the amount of filler on Awake.
the first three songs, space dye vest and a mind beside it'self are brilliant.
but the rest haven't got to me yet.

Thats pretty much how I feel about it. Those songs are some of the bands finest, though. I've decided I must get Live at Budoken, after listening to the track samples on iTunes.

[GenuineImitation]

Thats pretty much how I feel about it. Those songs are some of the bands finest, though. I've decided I must get Live at Budoken, after listening to the track samples on iTunes.


CD or DVD? You'll be happy either way.

[temporary]

CD or DVD? You'll be happy either way.

I'll probably buy the DVD with christmas money I always get from my relatives, considering I'm already asking for the DVDs of George Harrison's Concert For Bangladesh and Pink Floyd's Pulse for christmas.

[GenuineImitation]

I'll probably buy the DVD with christmas money I always get from my relatives, considering I'm already asking for the DVDs of George Harrison's Concert For Bangladesh and Pink Floyd's Pulse for christmas.


The DVD is amazing. The production is great and the cameras seem to be in the right spot at the right moment.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm getting twice in a lifetime and LATB on DVD for Christmas...Huzzah!

[scenesfromatheater]

Falling Into Infinity, as I said, is an awsome album. Favourite song now is Take Away My Pain, I absolutley love the chorus. Other faves are Trial of Tears...(sounds much better than on Budokan, recorded), Hollow Years, Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, Burning My Soul and New Millenium. Basically the whole album except You Not Me, Just Let Breath, Lines in The Sand and Anna Lee...I just find them not that interesting.

Six Degrees, I enjoy the second disc more, I love listening to the whole of 6DOIT the song. Overture sounds really cool with the orchestra and what not. Would be cool to see DT do some shows with an orchestra. TGP is my fave song off Disc 1.

[GenuineImitation]

Falling Into Infinity, as I said, is an awsome album. Favourite song now is Take Away My Pain, I absolutley love the chorus. Other faves are Trial of Tears...(sounds much better than on Budokan, recorded), Hollow Years, Peruvian Skies, Hell's Kitchen, Burning My Soul and New Millenium. Basically the whole album except You Not Me, Just Let Breath, Lines in The Sand and Anna Lee...I just find them not that interesting.

Six Degrees, I enjoy the second disc more, I love listening to the whole of 6DOIT the song. Overture sounds really cool with the orchestra and what not. Would be cool to see DT do some shows with an orchestra. TGP is my fave song off Disc 1.

I like Just Let Me Breath.

[temporary]

The DVD is amazing. The production is great and the cameras seem to be in the right spot at the right moment.

Thats what I've heard, it sounds really good.

So, as to FII, I find most of it horribly cheesy, unispired, and the fault of a greedy record company. Lines in the Sand has an awesome solo, though, and Hell's Kitchen is a great instrumental. Unfortunetly Burning My Soul is one of the cheesiest metal songs I've ever heard. Take Away My Pain is just...bad. Peruvian Skies isn't all that bad, either.

[Lord Abortion]

I prefer the first disc of 6DOIT...
Misunderstood is one of my favourite DT songs.

[red barchetta]

What about Lines In The Sand!? One of my person DT favs. That = :eek: :thumb:
its alright. i can listen to all the songs on FII, but i dont really find many of them that interesting.
Six Degrees, I enjoy the second disc more, I love listening to the whole of 6DOIT the song. Overture sounds really cool with the orchestra and what not. Would be cool to see DT do some shows with an orchestra. TGP is my fave song off Disc 1.
this might surprise people, but TGP is actually my least favourite song off SDOIT. its a good song, but the rest of SDOIT is phenomenal, especially The Great Debate and Blind Faith

[scenesfromatheater]

:eek: What a terrible suprise!!!

[Triangle]

About To Crash (both) wins.

[scenesfromatheater]

NP: Losing Time - Grand Finale.........What an album.

[ghettoeddo]

goodnight kiss segue into solitary shell is my favorite off of 2nd CD of 6DOIT.

i love the lion king-sounding thing in the intro to solitary shell :]

[nowitzki]

Yeah that keyboard sounds really cheesy, but really cool.

[Happy]

I used to hate keyboards in rock but thanks to DT I love 'em.

[scenesfromatheater]

JR > KM > DS

Ah? Ah?

[Happy]

I like Kev's stuff more.

[scenesfromatheater]

Hmmmm.... My 2 favourite DT albums are the ones with Kevin on, but I just find Rudess's keyboard playing more interesting live. Derick's keyboards are pretty cool on stuff like Lines In the Sand, but nothing compaired to the other two lads.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, it's an interesting mix of Keyboard styles I listen to, because DT use them in the superb style they do, then there's the orchestral Black metal style I love, and the frantic, lightning fast Power metal style.

[ThunderBass]

Ive always believed that a good keyboardist will greatly improve any band... however settle for a b-grade one and your music will always sound cheesy....

[gillygan]

He In wait for sleep the keyboard is sick, and then when it goes back to that riff at 8:10 in Learning to live, :) The solo at 9:10 in learning to live is awsome aswell.

[scenesfromatheater]

Haha, your avatar mader me lol....Tis class I must say. :lol:

[Speedy Fingers]

Doncha just love keyboards!

Any other keyboard players in here?

/never visits R&M

[Happy]

Doncha just love keyboards!

Any other keyboard players in here?

/never visits R&M
I attempt Keyboard every now and then.

[ghettoeddo]

i used to play classical piano, but that's a whole diff. ball game than rock.

sometimes, i think jordan's playing is focused too much on showing off rather than the overall musical effect. take his keyboard solo on live at budokan. the opening part is just...wankage. so in that sense, KM>JR. however, JR has his moments and overall, JR>KM.

[red barchetta]

JR > KM > DS

Ah? Ah?
switch JR and KM around and then i'll agree.

Keyboards in rock are awesome. especially with Rush, DT and Black Mages :cool:

[Happy]

and Black Mages :cool:
:cool: indeed.

[scenesfromatheater]

Doncha just love keyboards!

Any other keyboard players in here?

/never visits R&M
Cool. Got any mp3s of your band?

You'd better keep on coming into the DT thread.....or else....:smash:

[temporary]

JR > KM > DS

Ah? Ah?

I'd say: JR=KM>DS. I love KM compositions, but JR owns everyone talent wise, save Keith Emerson, Rick Wakeman, Jon Lord, and Ray Maznarek.

So, has anyone heard the interviews with LaBrie, Rudess, and Portney on Deliciousagony.com?

[Speedy Fingers]

I'm not in a band, but here's a clip of me playing over a backing track that a friend sent me.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=35WXZQROMESYN1SC83X2C235FZ

[scenesfromatheater]

Wah? I someone said they were in a DT tribute band, it's probably me seeing things...

[eighty d]

sometimes, i think jordan's playing is focused too much on showing off rather than the overall musical effect. take his keyboard solo on live at budokan. the opening part is just...wankage. so in that sense, KM>JR. however, JR has his moments and overall, JR>KM.

the opening part to that solo makes me cringe every time i hear it. for starters, his tone is just aweful. it amazes me how he can get such a terrible sound to come out of such amazing equipment. and then, as you said, the playing can only be described as pure wankage.

the second part of the solo owns though. i love how he gradually brings in more percussion parts as it progresses.

[scenesfromatheater]

the opening part to that solo makes me cringe every time i hear it. for starters, his tone is just aweful. it amazes me how he can get such a terrible sound to come out of such amazing equipment. and then, as you said, the playing can only be described as pure wankage.

the second part of the solo owns though. i love how he gradually brings in more percussion parts as it progresses.

The bit where it sounds like a guitar though sounds cool. :cool:

[nowitzki]

the opening part to that solo makes me cringe every time i hear it. for starters, his tone is just aweful. it amazes me how he can get such a terrible sound to come out of such amazing equipment. and then, as you said, the playing can only be described as pure wankage.

the second part of the solo owns though. i love how he gradually brings in more percussion parts as it progresses.

I usually skip the first part of that solo, it is pretty boring. The second part is awesome, I like the solo on LSFNY better though.

[gillygan]

The bit where it sounds like a guitar though sounds cool. :cool:

I was lstenin to sampes on amazon, and heard a song thats just a keyboard solo, and swore it was guitar.

[ghettoeddo]

yea jordan says on the budokan commentary that since there's no 2nd guitarrist, sometimes he creates countermelodies or plays guitar-style riffs. so basically he's learned to play like a guitarrist.

i still wish he wouldn't do all that WEIOWEIOKFNOETOBOOOOOGGGGGGGGWEOIWOIOFAGROOOOOOAAN NNNNWEIWEIOOO business.

[IbanezSamurai]

Imagine if all the sudden they decide to add another guitarist.

[ghettoeddo]

i'd slap them and ask why?
honestly, they don't need another one. i sincerely hope they don't go through anymore lineup changes as i think they've finally solidly established their sound. although witha band that sounds completely diff. on every CD, that doesn't matter too much huh?

[ヴェア ラッセル]

Anybody knows how to obtain a bootleg of the DSOTM cover concert they put on?

[horseypie]

i reckon derek sherinians solo on OIALT is ****in mad

[nowitzki]

Anybody knows how to obtain a bootleg of the DSOTM cover concert they put on?

It is coming out as an official bootleg hopefully soon, so that should be sweet. There were cameras at the show in London, so hopefully there will be a DVD as well, I can't wait for it.

NP: Money

[Speedy Fingers]

I'm not in a band, but here's a clip of me playing over a backing track that a friend sent me.

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=35WXZQROMESYN1SC83X2C235FZ
...

[Happy]

...
Nice man :thumb:
Even though it was a tad short.

[burntgorilla]

You can get the DSOTM bootleg off dimeadozen, if you're so inclined. For some reason though, the bass riff to Money is played on guitar (well, certainly sounds like it). I have no idea why, though.

[Lord Abortion]

Imagine if all the sudden they decide to add another guitarist.
They have Petrucci, what would be the need? :p

NP-The silent man

[shamed-angel]

They have Petrucci, what would be the need? :p

NP-The silent man
He can get a sound ten times the size of any other guitarists. Would the DSOTM front cover be available anywhere?

Is anyone else here really excited about the new OSI album? It's gonna be amazing!

[nowitzki]

You can get the DSOTM bootleg off dimeadozen, if you're so inclined. For some reason though, the bass riff to Money is played on guitar (well, certainly sounds like it). I have no idea why, though.

It's on both bass and guitar.

[GenuineImitation]

They have Petrucci, what would be the need? :p

NP-The silent man


Imagine a Petrucci-Loomis combination.

[Poofy 666]

Imagine a Petrucci-Loomis combination.
/****s himself thinking about it

[ghettoeddo]

Imagine a Petrucci-Loomis combination.

jeff loomis of nevermore?
missed em on gigantour cuz of a flat tire :(

[GenuineImitation]

jeff loomis of nevermore?
missed em on gigantour cuz of a flat tire :(


I missed them because of car problems as well.


Some asswipe was speeding in the parking lot and rammed into my parked car while i was in game stop. I dont park on the end anymore. I needed to sell my ticket to help pay for the damages.

If I ever see that guy, I will kill him. I missed DT, Nevermore, Megadeth and Symphony X. :upset: :angry:

[gillygan]

I missed them because of car problems as well.


Some asswipe was speeding in the parking lot and rammed into my parked car while i was in game stop. I dont park on the end anymore. I needed to sell my ticket to help pay for the damages.

If I ever see that guy, I will kill him. I missed DT, Nevermore, Megadeth and Symphony X. :upset: :angry:

holy crap

[Jasarn]

2:00 Glass Prison riff = <3

[badtaste]

I heard that the a Duran Duran album has a commentary on it as well. Reckon DT could do that as well for their next album?

[ghettoeddo]

I missed them because of car problems as well.


Some asswipe was speeding in the parking lot and rammed into my parked car while i was in game stop. I dont park on the end anymore. I needed to sell my ticket to help pay for the damages.

If I ever see that guy, I will kill him. I missed DT, Nevermore, Megadeth and Symphony X. :upset: :angry:

:-\ you've got the worst luck pal.

[Rounder]

just browsing google video on happened upon a couple interesting vids. Just ignore this post if you seen em,

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6147656209173866408&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is LTE playing all of Acid Rain pretty cool pettrucci's got his black and white 7 stringer out.

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2109943381931383238&q=liquid+tension+experiment) you might have seen in the liquid drum theater, but I included for those who hadn't


and this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259476426215369355&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is some high school kids playing paradigm shift at a high school talent show. I have heard worse. an A for effort.

[Happy]

They have Petrucci, what would be the need? :p

NP-The silent man
If only Jason Becker could still play guitar.

[ghettoeddo]

just browsing google video on happened upon a couple interesting vids. Just ignore this post if you seen em,

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6147656209173866408&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is LTE playing all of Acid Rain pretty cool pettrucci's got his black and white 7 stringer out.

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2109943381931383238&q=liquid+tension+experiment) you might have seen in the liquid drum theater, but I included for those who hadn't


and this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259476426215369355&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is some high school kids playing paradigm shift at a high school talent show. I have heard worse. an A for effort.


those kids playing paradigm shift make me sad...wish i had chops like that :upset:

speaking of which, what DT songs can y'all play and on what instrument?
as for me, i can play on guitar: as i am (minus solo), another day, goodnight kiss + solitary shell, home (minus solo), finally free, through her eyes :], fatal tragedy (minus solo), overture 1928, in the name of god (minus solo), octavarium (minus shred solo), sacrificed sons, root of all evil, answer lies within.

if you think about it, it's really not that impressive :p

[horseypie]

where did you get the tabs for the new dream theater stuff?
and dont say guitarpro...cuz i'll scream

[horseypie]

where did you get the tabs for the new dream theater stuff?
and dont say guitarpro...cuz i'll scream

[Speedy Fingers]

just browsing google video on happened upon a couple interesting vids. Just ignore this post if you seen em,

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6147656209173866408&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is LTE playing all of Acid Rain pretty cool pettrucci's got his black and white 7 stringer out.

this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2109943381931383238&q=liquid+tension+experiment) you might have seen in the liquid drum theater, but I included for those who hadn't


and this one (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3259476426215369355&q=liquid+tension+experiment) is some high school kids playing paradigm shift at a high school talent show. I have heard worse. an A for effort.
All of those kids have chops. The guitarist has excellent tone though, and great control. Cool.

Notice that they don't have a keyboard player!

[Triangle]

All of those kids have chops. The guitarist has excellent tone though, and great control. Cool.

Notice that they don't have a keyboard player!
If only you were there Speedy. :p

[Happy]

those kids playing paradigm shift make me sad...wish i had chops like that :upset:

speaking of which, what DT songs can y'all play and on what instrument?
as for me, i can play on guitar: as i am (minus solo), another day, goodnight kiss + solitary shell, home (minus solo), finally free, through her eyes :], fatal tragedy (minus solo), overture 1928, in the name of god (minus solo), octavarium (minus shred solo), sacrificed sons, root of all evil, answer lies within.

if you think about it, it's really not that impressive :p
Better than me I guess. I can play A Fortune in Lies (minus solo), Status Seeker, YTSE Jam (solo not so great), Afterlife(minus solo), Silent Man, Erotomania (minus solo), Another Day (minus that little bit where john just has to shred), Beyond This Life (minus solo), As I am (minus solo), Octavarium (minus fast solo) and SOC (minus fast solo).
Still pretty decent seeing I've only been playing a year and a half.

[Speedy Fingers]

If only you were there Speedy. :p
huhu.

You know it :).

[scenesfromatheater]

those kids playing paradigm shift make me sad...wish i had chops like that :upset:

speaking of which, what DT songs can y'all play and on what instrument?
as for me, i can play on guitar: as i am (minus solo), another day, goodnight kiss + solitary shell, home (minus solo), finally free, through her eyes :], fatal tragedy (minus solo), overture 1928, in the name of god (minus solo), octavarium (minus shred solo), sacrificed sons, root of all evil, answer lies within.

if you think about it, it's really not that impressive :p

I play guitar, I can't remember what songs I can play all the way through...ah yes, I can play The Silent Man :naughty: .

Whenever I learn songs I never learn them all the way through cause I can't be bothered really.



Cool, loads more people posting in this thread now, always nice to see:thumb: .

[scenesfromatheater]

where did you get the tabs for the new dream theater stuff?
and dont say guitarpro...cuz i'll scream
Got the guitar pro tabs........:naughty: ........

[GenuineImitation]

where did you get the tabs for the new dream theater stuff?
and dont say guitarpro...cuz i'll scream


Whats wrong with guitar pro?

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, it's the greatest tab software to grace God's green earth.

[ghettoeddo]

Yeah, it's the greatest tab software to grace God's green earth.

may i recommend...

powertabs?

www.powertabs.net

you will be changed. MX looks like child's play compared to powertabs.
there's a program you gotta dl, but it's worth it. the new DT tabs are pretty much spot on and check out some of the LTE tabs as well. people are amazing.

and sometimes it's more fun to listen to the powertabs than the actual song :naughty:

[Hollywood Rose]

Anyone seen G3 live in Tokyo? Kicks as$!

[ghettoeddo]

Anyone seen G3 live in Tokyo? Kicks as$!

yea i own it.
petrucci kinda sounded...not as refined as vai or satch.
he really needed another guitarrist to back him up on rhythm.

i dont like the tokyo one as much as some others, because the players seem to be locked into their playing grids and do the same tricks over and over. satch does that gay whammy squeal up and plays fast legato, vai just wanks on the bar, and petrucci just plays box patterns and scales up and down.
that said, i love em

[Triangle]

I need to get the Tokyo dvd for xmas. More Petrucci's good enough for me.

[Lord Abortion]

/has been listening to the silent man constantly.

My LATB came today...pity my Mum won't let me watch it until christmas :(

[scenesfromatheater]

may i recommend...

powertabs?

www.powertabs.net

you will be changed. MX looks like child's play compared to powertabs.
there's a program you gotta dl, but it's worth it. the new DT tabs are pretty much spot on and check out some of the LTE tabs as well. people are amazing.

and sometimes it's more fun to listen to the powertabs than the actual song :naughty:
We were talking about Guitar Pro not MX. I downloaded Powertabs about ages ago and Guitar Pro is much better.

[Quickdrop]

/has been listening to the silent man constantly.

My LATB came today...pity my Mum won't let me watch it until christmas :(I've been listening to the Awake cd alot lately. It's alot better than i originally thought. 6:00 and The Mirror are starting to grow on me...

[scenesfromatheater]

I've been listening to the Awake cd alot lately. It's alot better than i originally thought. 6:00 and The Mirror are starting to grow on me...
6:00 and Caught in a Web are my two least favourite songs on the album.

[ghettoeddo]

We were talking about Guitar Pro not MX. I downloaded Powertabs about ages ago and Guitar Pro is much better.

guitarpro? better than powertabs?

i MUST check this out...

[scenesfromatheater]

You don't have Guitar Pro? What has this world come to?

[Happy]

I have Guitar Pro 5. In all honesty I prefer Powertabs, I find it easier to follow and I like the sounds better. GP5's distorted guitar sounds like a blur of notes coming from an ice cream truck.

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeah, but aren't the Powertab sounds just MIDI sounds like GP 4?

[Triangle]

Yeah, but aren't the Powertab sounds just MIDI sounds like GP 4?
Yep. It's harder to use imo, than PT. Guitar Pro ftw. Sounds waayy better.

[scenesfromatheater]

When I got Powertab ages ago it was only guitar tabs you could veiw and was really hard to use. Is it any better now?

[Happy]

You could always view bass tabs. You have to click the bass clef.
I find GP really hard to use. Although Powertabs doesn't have drums unless you have a program to make them.

[scenesfromatheater]

Hey, how long you had over 10,000 posts? I never noticed.

[scenesfromatheater]

Awsome, I've finally got the whole of the Awake demos. It's cool cause it's the same songs but without the annoying triggered drums.

[Happy]

Hey, how long you had over 10,000 posts? I never noticed.
Umm. Three days now I think.

[GenuineImitation]

Umm. Three days now I think.


Congrats on breaking 10,000.

I almost have the complete DT discography (minus demos and such). I just need ACoS which Im getting for Christmas.

[ghettoeddo]

When I got Powertab ages ago it was only guitar tabs you could veiw and was really hard to use. Is it any better now?

powertabs, you can see guitar, bass, keys, other instruments written out for guitar. and yes it's in MIDI. drums can be added in w/ a separate program.

yale just deferred me early action :(

[Triangle]

6:00 and Caught in a Web are my two least favourite songs on the album.
Seriously, The Mirror into Lie live is so good. Very heavy I must say. :p

[nowitzki]

yale just deferred me early action :(

Unlucky

and GP>PT

[GenuineImitation]

powertabs, you can see guitar, bass, keys, other instruments written out for guitar. and yes it's in MIDI. drums can be added in w/ a separate program.

yale just deferred me early action :(

Sorry to hear about that. Most of my friends applied to Ivy league schools and have been deffered. What other schools did you apply to?

[Lord Abortion]

I like the chorus to caught in a web...the innocence faded one sounds similar to me.

[GenuineImitation]

I like the chorus to caught in a web...the innocence faded one sounds similar to me.


The chorus in Caught in a Web is very good. I find it catchy, but not in an annoying way.

[scenesfromatheater]

The keyboards at the start are aload of rubbish.

[GenuineImitation]

The keyboards at the start are aload of rubbish.


I like the keyboards in the intro. What do you not like about them?

[scenesfromatheater]

They just sound awful. They don't go with the backing at all...and I think I know more about music than Dream Theater.

[GenuineImitation]

They just sound awful. They don't go with the backing at all...and I think I know more about music than Dream Theater.

I see what you mean.


Im gettin ACoS for christmas. What songs are on disk two?

[Lord Abortion]

I really don't like the covers on ACoS...

[GenuineImitation]

I really don't like the covers on ACoS...

Ok, but what covers are they?

[Speedy Fingers]

Hey, quickly, if anyone wants to jam it up yahoo style, my SN is ukjokerbran. Keyboards at the ready!

[ghettoeddo]

Sorry to hear about that. Most of my friends applied to Ivy league schools and have been deffered. What other schools did you apply to?

early to yale, regular to most other ivies, stanford, UC berkeley, northwestern, and university of michigan. oh and my very own university of arizona.

god arizona sucks. land of the sun-baked skeletons.

[GenuineImitation]

early to yale, regular to most other ivies, stanford, UC berkeley, northwestern, and university of michigan. oh and my very own university of arizona.

god arizona sucks. land of the sun-baked skeletons.


Thats cool. I did regular decision to NYU, Boston University, Rutgers University, George Washington University, Hofstra University, Villanova and a few state schools. New York state schools aren't too bad.

[scenesfromatheater]

Ok, but what covers are they?
1. A Change of Seasons
2. Funeral For a Friend/ Love Lies Bleeding
3. Perfect Strangers
4. The Rover/ Achilles Last Stand/ The Song Remains the Same
5. The Big Medley


There ye go.

I think Labries vocals on the covers are some of the best live vocals I've heard from him.

[ghettoeddo]

who are the covers on ACOS originally by?

[eighty d]

funeral for a friend/love lies bleeding - elton john
perfect strangers - deep purple
the rover/achilles last stand/the song remains the same - led zeppelin
the big medley - pink floyd, kansas, queen, journey, dixie dregs, genesis

[ghettoeddo]

^ sounds awesome to me...i should pick it up.