Dream Theater

[bball_1523]

i listen to stuff from Piosin all the way to Judas Priest...

my favorite 'area' is kind of in between (queensrych, iron maiden, skid row, tesla, whitesnake)

would i like dream theater? is it like 'rapsody'? i do enjoy songs like 'rage of the titans' etc


DT are not even close to what Rhapsody does, and aren't as cheesy as them lol. They don't sing about kings and lord of the rings and don't have a power metal vibe going on (not saying power metal or rhapsody, I actually like power metal and Rhapsody).

But you might enjoy DT for their skill and some songs, not sure if you will enjoy their composition though compared to rhapsody and the other bands you mentioned.

[Quebec]

I have a question for you. I've already posted it, but only 1 person answered it, so here it is: Which Mike Portnoy's drum kit is your favourite?

The Siamese monster : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/sspec.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/siamesemonster.jpgThis. It's MP's current Drum kit.
The purple monster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/kit2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/puple.jpg
MP used this one for FII, SFAM and for touring.
The transatlantic kit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/tasetup.jpg
The drum kit that MP used for various side projects.
The awake kit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/mapex2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v618/heartwork_quebec/iwdrums.jpg
This was MP'S kit for Awake and ACOS. It's now retired in MP's basement.

My vote goes to the awake kit. The colors are cool and its not too big. I really love the siamese monster but it's getting ridiculously big.

[mattlewis53]

It's hard for me to believe that he actually uses every drum and cymbal on the Siamese monster kit. There are like 400 little cymbals on that thing. Oh well, he kicks *** and I'm not a drummer.

[jensmatty]

I reckon his LTE kit is the best. It's small(er) simple, and its got the important stuff.

[sixdegreesofinnerturbulence]

More room to explore and be creative on bigger kits, just like having more strings on a bass :-D My fav DT songs are Take The Time, Metropolis pt1, The Glass Prison, Strange Deja Vu, Fatal Tragedy, Blind Faith, and Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance

[jensmatty]

It's ok to have a big kit, But he just goes overboard. it's useless having more things in your kit than you can hit in an entire album. And the siamese monster is just him taking advantage of endoursements. Lucky bastard :P LTE still best kit, there's enough to be creative, enough to explore, Dont need a kit much bigger than that.

[drummer04]

It's one thing to have a big set, another thing to have a big set and be able to play it. There's no use in having a huge set and playing a couple toms, hi-hat, snare, bass, and a couple cymbals. He moves all around it. Look at Neil Peart, his set's humongous but he uses everything for his unique sounds. Same with Terry Bozzio and his chromatic toms (**** him for bein so good, lol), he uses em and it sounds awesome.

[sixdegreesofinnerturbulence]

Those pics of his kits arn't workin for me, anyone know where else I can see more pics?

[Quebec]

Those pics of his kits arn't workin for me, anyone know where else I can see more pics?
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/galleryalbum.asp?galleryID=3
or
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/about/drums/?menu=about

[Khron_Tama]

As a drummer, i'd personally go for a Purple Monster, but with a few subtractions, like:

- the stacked splash/bell on the far right
- the gong bass drum
- the percussion table (although useful, but i wouldn't use it everyday)
- the crotales
- the 18"china on the far left
- the 32" thundersheet
- (even) the two timbalitos :lol:

:cool: There.. That should make for a "decent"-sized kit, with stuff you could use constantly (other that hi-hats, bass/snare, ride and crash :D )

[Khron_Tama]

As a drummer, i'd personally go for a Purple Monster, but with a few subtractions, like:

- the stacked splash/bell on the far right
- the gong bass drum
- the percussion table (although useful, but i wouldn't use it everyday)
- the crotales
- the 18"china on the far left
- the 32" thundersheet
- (even) the two timbalitos :lol:

:cool: There.. That should make for a "decent"-sized kit, with stuff you could use constantly (other that hi-hats, bass/snare, ride and crash :D )

[Khron_Tama]

As a drummer, i'd personally go for a Purple Monster, but with a few subtractions, like:

- the stacked splash/bell on the far right
- the gong bass drum
- the percussion table (although useful, but i wouldn't use it everyday)
- the crotales
- the 18"china on the far left
- the 32" thundersheet
- (even) the two timbalitos :lol:

:cool: There.. That should make for a "decent"-sized kit, with stuff you could use constantly (other that hi-hats, bass/snare, ride and crash :D )

[Khron_Tama]

As a drummer, i'd personally go for a Purple Monster, but with a few subtractions, like:

- the stacked splash/bell on the far right
- the gong bass drum
- the percussion table (although useful, but i wouldn't use it everyday)
- the crotales
- the 18"china on the far left
- the 32" thundersheet
- (even) the two timbalitos :lol:

:cool: There.. That should make for a "decent"-sized kit, with stuff you could use constantly (other that hi-hats, bass/snare, ride and crash :D )

[Arucard]

why so many drums?
as a drummer, i prefer five piece kits, one high tom, two floors, snare and a bass. Then two crashes, and nice big ride (A custom ping probably) and some pretty beasty hats.

im getting live at the budakon (sp?) for christmas, i have never heard any DT, but am into alot of Prog and Power metal, so is it an ok place to start?

[Quebec]

why so many drums?
as a drummer, i prefer five piece kits, one high tom, two floors, snare and a bass. Then two crashes, and nice big ride (A custom ping probably) and some pretty beasty hats.

im getting live at the budakon (sp?) for christmas, i have never heard any DT, but am into alot of Prog and Power metal, so is it an ok place to start?
Yeah, this DVD has a nice variation of songs although their aren't enough songs from Awake and SFAM. Instrumedley's a great mix of DT's instrumental work and their are calm and heavy songs. I guess it'S a good start. :thumb:

[MNbassist78]

The Siamese Monster, its just so BIG!!!

[Quebec]

:upset: why didwe stopped posting?

New MP's drumming DVD is out!http://www.mikeportnoy.com/portnoyarchives/dvd5.asp?menu=archives

Does anybody here wanna buy it? I probably won't since i'm not a drummer.

[RiceMonster]

Sounds cool, but I don't play drums so I probably won't pick it up.

[~Asphyxia~]

I can't wait until christmas. I get finally my Live In Budokan DVD! It's gonna be kickass. Anything else Dream Theater related i should pick up aswell?

[Quebec]

I can't wait until christmas. I get finally my Live In Budokan DVD! It's gonna be kickass. Anything else Dream Theater related i should pick up aswell?
If ya liked live at budokan, pick up awake and scenes from a memory. there isn't enough songs from those album on the DVD. Then pick up whathever DT CD or DVDs.

[RiceMonster]

I asked for Metropolis 2000, I hope its good.

[RNR]

I never really listened to the song "Scarred" before because it was just too long and I didn't feel like it. Now that I have it's probably my favorite off of Awake :D

[RNR]

I asked for Metropolis 2000, I hope its good.
It's brilliant. It's easily the best Dream Theater album. I'm prepared to argue that statement, that's how good I think it is.

[RiceMonster]

It's brilliant. It's easily the best Dream Theater album. I'm prepared to argue that statement, that's how good I think it is.
Ok good. Now I'm looking forward to it even more.

I've heard there's little skits mixed into the performance. How are they?

[RNR]

Ok good. Now I'm looking forward to it even more.

I've heard there's little skits mixed into the performance. How are they?

The album is an opera so to help tell the story there are a few skits in the songs But it's mostly within the songs that the story is told.

If you get the live DVD "Scenes From New York" they show the skits on a screen. Very cool. There are really only a few.

[RiceMonster]

The album is an opera so to help tell the story there are a few skits in the songs But it's mostly within the songs that the story is told.

If you get the live DVD "Scenes From New York" they show the skits on a screen. Very cool. There are really only a few.
Sounds awsome. Maybe it will help me have a better understanding of the story.

[slaytalica25]

i just got the live at budokan dvd and i love it. they are all awesome musicians and have aweosme music.

[~Asphyxia~]

If ya liked live at budokan, pick up awake and scenes from a memory. there isn't enough songs from those album on the DVD. Then pick up whathever DT CD or DVDs.
I meant merchandise wise. I have all their albums (inherited from my dad and bought). Any good websites i could order some shirts and stuff in from?

[Reidie86]

Sounds awsome. Maybe it will help me have a better understanding of the story.

the band members comentary feature on "the live scenes from new york" really helps you to understand the story. the "skits" are really lame - the camera work/ acting is pretty poor. awsome dvd though, the play ACOS at the end :thumb:

[Quebec]

I meant merchandise wise. I have all their albums (inherited from my dad and bought). Any good websites i could order some shirts and stuff in from?
http://www.fanfire.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/fanfire.woa/wa/artist?artistName=Dream+Theater&sourceCode=DRAWEB

Sounds awsome. Maybe it will help me have a better understanding of the story.
http://www.dtfaq.com/category/?categoryid=12#1032
This opened up my eyes

[Quebec]

I have a question.
Does anybody here owns "the live in tokyo/5 years in a LIVEtime" 2 dvds? I'm thinking about buying it but I can't find valuable information about it.
If someone here owns it, please tell me if its good (or not)!

[dt_opeth_death]

I have a question.
Does anybody here owns "the live in tokyo/5 years in a LIVEtime" 2 dvds? I'm thinking about buying it but I can't find valuable information about it.
If someone here owns it, please tell me if its good (or not)!
I'll do my best to give you some "valuable information". First of all, it is definitely worth buying, and I'm fairly certain you can find it for cheap. The first disc chronicles a show done in Tokyo after the release of Images and Words. The second disc takes you from the Awake days through Falling Into Infinity. Both discs have commentaries by the band and are both very entertaining. I would recommend buying this 2-disc set in addition to all Dream Theater merchandise!

[RiceMonster]

I have a question.
Does anybody here owns "the live in tokyo/5 years in a LIVEtime" 2 dvds? I'm thinking about buying it but I can't find valuable information about it.
If someone here owns it, please tell me if its good (or not)!
My friend owns it, Its very good. I sujest you get it.

[G_Mac07]

I was thinking of getting Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York. Maybe I'll get the Live in Tokyo 2 disc instead. Can anyone pick the better of the two, I'm mostly interested in the live material.

[Quebec]

everybody check this out:http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280323
"the joZ" did a great job!

[Prince of Darkness]

I was thinking of getting Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York. Maybe I'll get the Live in Tokyo 2 disc instead. Can anyone pick the better of the two, I'm mostly interested in the live material.

It really depends on what Albums you like better.

*if you like Scenes from a memory, Get the New York one.
*If you dont really like SFAM, get TOKYO!

(applause)

[biaxident]

I have a question.
Does anybody here owns "the live in tokyo/5 years in a LIVEtime" 2 dvds? I'm thinking about buying it but I can't find valuable information about it.
If someone here owns it, please tell me if its good (or not)!

I got it, it's good. Not as good as the Metropolis or Budokan DVD's, but definately still worth the money. It has the videos that DT have done aswell which is pretty cool as I had never seen any before.

[biaxident]

Have you people lost you minds? Dream Theater is one of the greatest bands of our time. You a$$'s are just a bunch of spoiled pansies and want more from these musical masters. John Petrucci is one of the greatest guitar players. Period. He has intense speed on his guitar that is unmatched in any I've seen. Jordan Rudess, how DARE you criticize him. This man was born a child piano prodige, and is unsurpassed by ANY rock keyboardist to date. John Myung is never given a huge solo within which to shine, but can keep up with Petrucci on the fast melody licks. Mike Portnoy is revered as a drum god, and is the youngest drummer to be admitted into the Drumming Hall of Fame(or something like that). I read that some thought that James LaBrie's vocals sucked? That pothead needs to f*cking sober up, his singing is insane!! You listen to gritty Cobaine lyrics, don't you? (@$$) Wake up ladies, we are in the presence of greatness, and we should enjoy it before it fades.

I very much agree, Dream Theater are in my opinion, by far the most technically and musically gifted band in the world. However, I would just like to point out that although John Myung's lack of bass solo's is a crying shame, you said he is never given one, he is given the occasional. The Dance of Eternity (3:15 or so) and Metropolis Part One (5:30 or so) are some examples that stick out where JM shows off his awesome bass skills.

[azianmetalhead]

People that criticize Dream Theater in a negative manner either:

a.) Are musically retarded.
b.) Listen to rap.
c.) Don't try anything new.
d.) All of the above.

[EDIT]: Any information about the new album coming soon?

[Quebec]

People that criticize Dream Theater in a negative manner either:

a.) Are musically retarded.
b.) Listen to rap.
c.) Don't try anything new.
d.) All of the above.

[EDIT]: Any information about the new album coming soon?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm still waiting for the news.... I think they are currently passing time with their familly after all the touring!

[G_Mac07]

Has anyone else had any trouble seeing the bonus material on the Train of Thought cd? I've tried the link from the DT site and it hasn't worked. Is it worth the effort trying to see it?

[The JoZ]

Has anyone else had any trouble seeing the bonus material on the Train of Thought cd? I've tried the link from the DT site and it hasn't worked. Is it worth the effort trying to see it?

I've tried, and can't get it to work -_-

[RiceMonster]

People that criticize Dream Theater in a negative manner do so because:

a.) Have different taste in music

[EDIT]: Any information about the new album coming soon?

Fixed.

[^Dream~Theater^]

I found the images dvd to be just great.
i thought the 5 years in a livetime was awful. The music didnt sound as good and the cameraman was way too drunk, I dont want to see the keyboardist playing nothing when Petrucci is solo'ing.

[The JoZ]

Fixed.

Notice he said 'negative manner'

I think by 'negative manner' he meant 'baseless flaming'.

If you have different taste in music, you shouldn't just flame a band like an idiot. I don't like alot of death metal bands, indie bands, or whatnot, but I don't go around saying "omfg kreator suxxx0rz" or anything like that.

[RiceMonster]

Notice he said 'negative manner'

I think by 'negative manner' he meant 'baseless flaming'.

If you have different taste in music, you shouldn't just flame a band like an idiot. I don't like alot of death metal bands, indie bands, or whatnot, but I don't go around saying "omfg kreator suxxx0rz" or anything like that.
You're right, I hate those comments as well. But it seemed as if he was trying to say "You're retarded if you don't like Dream Theater". I can't stand it when people can't except people not liking their favourite band.

[The JoZ]

You're right, I hate those comments as well. But it seemed as if he was trying to say "You're retarded if you don't like Dream Theater". I can't stand it when people can't except people not liking their favourite band.

I'm pretty sure that's not what he meant. If it is, I'd have to agree with you about having different taste.

I don't care if someone doesn't like my favorite band (Tool or DT) but if they are just moronic about it, that's when I can't stand it.

It's one thing to say "I don't like this band because of their style" or "I don't like that genre too much" etc. But to be like "there gay" or something utterly stupid like that is what we fans can't stand.

[Speedy Fingers]

My first DT CD was LSFNY, aand for only £10! I was blown away by the sheer power of the band, and the technical and creative abilities of each member. My first song was The Dance Of Eternity, which again, just blew me away.

Now a few years later, I own all their albums and EP's and receiveed the Live At Budokan DVD yesterday for Christmas from my best friend. It is possibly the best live DVD I have ever seen, I bet they are truly amazing live. I love how it has a load of special features too, especially with Jordan Rudess in them!!!

[angry armadillo]

Have you seen Live at Budokan? Unless you have, don't argue it with me. He doesn't tap on As I Am, but does do the harmonic intro.
I've seen them live

Not a bass tap on the ToT album.



I have ToT, I&W and Live scenes from NY

I used to love them, but I don't listen to them so much anymore, they lack songwriting skills and make up for it in technicallity, which I'm not digging at the moment.

[Kurrpt]

if that dude isnt singing, im all about 'em. That instrumedly on that budokan DVD kicks so much tail

[The Depressed]

Not a bass tap on the ToT album.

errr.... how about the intro to This Dying Soul? With the tap harmonics being played under the chug riff?

Or the section just before the 'Don't cross the crooked step' on Honor Thy Father? Just after the 'watch the way you talk' and the shred bit?

Admitedly, they're the only two sections, but there IS bass tapping on the album.

:p

[RiceMonster]

I got the Metroplis 2000 DVD for Christmas, and I was very Impressed. The performance was incredeble, but I didn't think to highly of the short skits it had on it. I really like how they included everyone who was involved in the recording, such as the choir.

[Arucard]

I got The Budokan cd for christmas. OMG HOW GOOD. Im sorry.

/leaves.

[black_sabbath634]

People that criticize Dream Theater in a negative manner either:

a.) Are musically retarded.
b.) Listen to rap.
c.) Don't try anything new.
d.) All of the above.

[EDIT]: Any information about the new album coming soon?
i like dream theater and all, but people that critizice dream theater are not musically retarded, maybe they like shorter simpler music, or they like a more melodic feel to guitar solos, or maybe they dont like heavy metal. There are many reasons to hate DT, they are not an easy band to listen to.

[G_Mac07]

^ statements B and C also seem hypocritical to me.

[Quebec]

Has anyone else had any trouble seeing the bonus material on the Train of Thought cd? I've tried the link from the DT site and it hasn't worked. Is it worth the effort trying to see it?
Didn't worked for me... That sucks

[ChimPz]

I've recently started to try out DT, but so far the songs i've got are all softer, balladlike or acoustic songs. That's great and all, but i'd like some heavier stuff.

Any suggestions?

[tanzarian]

the glass prison is a heavier song :thumb:

[^Dream~Theater^]

I've recently started to try out DT, but so far the songs i've got are all softer, balladlike or acoustic songs. That's great and all, but i'd like some heavier stuff.

Any suggestions?
The great debate
As i am
Endless sacrifice
Honor thy father
This dying soul
In the name of god
Beyond this life
Dance of eternity
Overture 1928

[Trooper]

Buy Images and Words.
You won't be disapointed. Best Dream Theater album in my opinion.

On a side note I finally learned my first DT song fully through.
Through Her Eyes. :)
It may be the simpilest DT song out there but I'm happy. :)

[The JoZ]

The great debate
As i am
Endless sacrifice
Honor thy father
This dying soul
In the name of god
Beyond this life
Dance of eternity
Overture 1928

Add to this list

The Glass Prison
Caught in a Web
The Mirror / Lie
Under a Glass Moon
Metropolis Part 1
War Inside My Head

[Quebec]

I've recently started to try out DT, but so far the songs i've got are all softer, balladlike or acoustic songs. That's great and all, but i'd like some heavier stuff.

Any suggestions?
Listen to Train of Thought. Almost every song on this CD have heavy riffs.

[yogaguitar]

Alright: I wan't to by a dream theater album, but I don't know wich I should start with. I only heard one song but one of my friends (that got almost same music taste as me) want me to by one.
could you suggest one please? (wich is the best one)

[ytsedrummer]

Well it all depends on what sound you wanna start with. Dream Theater dances around with sounds (like every progressive band) If you wanna hear the real heavy side of Dream Theater, pick up Train Of Thought, if you wanna hear the real technical side, pick up Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, if your'e into eighties metal with all that high pitched squeling, pick up Dream Theater's debut album- When Dream And Day Unite, if you wanna hear the all around thing, pick up A Change Of Seasons (EP), If you wanna hear heave with some strong keyboard wizidry, pick up Awake, if you wanna hear eighties metal ,mixed with technical sounds and odd- timesignature filled tunes, pick up Images And Words, the debut album with current singer James LaBrie. The album I started out with was Scenes From A Memory- a concept album wich connects with a song on Images And Words. Scenes From A Memory is FILLED with trure keyboard wizidry, done by current keyboard player Jordan Rudess. It also features some heavy tunes, some quite mellow tunes and not quite so technical as Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence or Images And Words. Hope that helped.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Alright: I wan't to by a dream theater album, but I don't know wich I should start with. I only heard one song but one of my friends (that got almost same music taste as me) want me to by one.
could you suggest one please? (wich is the best one)
Start with Images and Words then go to..Awake..A Change Of Seasons..Scenes From A Memory..Six Degrees Of Inner Turbluence..Train Of Thought..

[yogaguitar]

^Thanks alot! And thank you ytsedrummer that really helped me :thumb:

[^Dream~Theater^]

^Thanks alot! And thank you ytsedrummer that really helped me :thumb:
When Dreams And Day Unite is their first cd, which dosen't feature James Labrie but is still a powerful album with some great songs (YTES Jam) Images has more of their 80's style in their, but has some very good songs (Learning To Live, Take The Time, Metropolis), A Change Of Seasons is basically 1 song and a whole bunch of covers, but the titled track is all you really need, an epic 23 minute masterpiece is well worth it. Awake is going back to their early roots but is a great album with some unforgettable songs (Lie, Erotomania, Caught In A Web). Scenes From A Memory..Basically the best concept album i've ever seen, This cd is a MUST BUY for anyone, regardless if your a DT fan or not, Some great songs are (Dance Of Eternity, Finally Free, Home, Overture 1928). Six Degrees Of Inner Turbluence is where i think they got the most technical and stepped it up in the heaviness and with a 42 minute EPIC piece on the second cd which is absolutely orgasmic :)
Id well suggest it to anyone, some great songs (The Glass Prison, The Great Debate, Blind Faith, And the whole Six Degree's Of Inner Turbluence Piece itself. Train Of Thought..Undisputed, the most heavy album from Dream Theater and all the songs are very catchy, Some very good solo'ing on this cd even though lots of people disagree, some good songs (As I Am, This Dying Soul, In The Name Of God)

[ytsedrummer]

^Thanks alot! And thank you ytsedrummer that really helped me :thumb:

No problem.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Anyone else find the intro to Dissapear kinda creepy?

[Quebec]

Anyone else find the intro to Dissapear kinda creepy?
Yeah It would be a good music part for a psycho movie! Still a great song.

[Kurrpt]

When Dreams And Day Unite is their first cd, which dosen't feature James Labrie but is still a powerful album with some great songs (YTES Jam) Images has more of their 80's style in their, but has some very good songs (Learning To Live, Take The Time, Metropolis), A Change Of Seasons is basically 1 song and a whole bunch of covers, but the titled track is all you really need, an epic 23 minute masterpiece is well worth it. Awake is going back to their early roots but is a great album with some unforgettable songs (Lie, Erotomania, Caught In A Web). Scenes From A Memory..Basically the best concept album i've ever seen, This cd is a MUST BUY for anyone, regardless if your a DT fan or not, Some great songs are (Dance Of Eternity, Finally Free, Home, Overture 1928). Six Degrees Of Inner Turbluence is where i think they got the most technical and stepped it up in the heaviness and with a 42 minute EPIC piece on the second cd which is absolutely orgasmic :)
Id well suggest it to anyone, some great songs (The Glass Prison, The Great Debate, Blind Faith, And the whole Six Degree's Of Inner Turbluence Piece itself. Train Of Thought..Undisputed, the most heavy album from Dream Theater and all the songs are very catchy, Some very good solo'ing on this cd even though lots of people disagree, some good songs (As I Am, This Dying Soul, In The Name Of God)


have you learned YTSE jam, im learning it right now and have questions

[^Dream~Theater^]

have you learned YTSE jam, im learning it right now and have questions
I know some of it, Haven't really taken the time to learn it. Killer song though :thumb:

[zero_]

I've recently started to try out DT, but so far the songs i've got are all softer, balladlike or acoustic songs. That's great and all, but i'd like some heavier stuff.

Any suggestions?

Beyond this life (live version has some really awesome solos, I recommend it as well as the studio version)
As I am
Glass prison
Honor thy father
The mirror
Pull me under

Dream Theater isn't really a hard band, but when they do play hard, they do it well.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Beyond this life (live version has some really awesome solos, I recommend it as well as the studio version)
As I am
Glass prison
Honor thy father
The mirror
Pull me under

Dream Theater isn't really a hard band, but when they do play hard, they do it well.
Also get these songs:
This Dying Soul
Endless Sacrifice
The Dance Of Eternity
War Inside My Head
In The Name Of God
The Test That Stumped Them all
The Great Debate
Beyond This Life(Live at Budokan, Their interlude is just astounding in it)
Home
Lie
Hells Kitchen
Also get Paradigm Shift from Liquid Tension Experiment :thumb:

[ytsedrummer]

Anyone else find the intro to Dissapear kinda creepy?
Very haunting indeed, also the way James sings some of the vocals sends shivers down my spine like " So I'm moving on, I'll never forget as you laid there and watched me. I gave you my hand, I sais its okay, letting go, its time to leave here. And I'll carry on, the best that I can withoutyou here beside me, let Him come take you home." And that little bit of piano comes in with the intro repeade and it fades out, just as I said before, its a very haunting tune, same with Space Dye Vest from Awake.

[Raijo]

I didn't find Disappear creepy, more like really melancholic and depressing.

[ytsedrummer]

That's because its about James LaBrie's mother's passing I believe.

[^Dream~Theater^]

http://emrevideos.free.fr/media-dreamtheater.html
Has some great DT bootlegs like The glass prison live and The great debate live along with lots more and Petrucci's G3 Video's.

[petrucci_wannabee]

http://emrevideos.free.fr/media-dreamtheater.html
Has some great DT bootlegs like The glass prison live and The great debate live along with lots more and Petrucci's G3 Video's.

The Dance Of Instrumentals is particularly good, if it's still available. If not, I got it on my computer for anyone who wants it.

[The JoZ]

Man the quality on those suck...

[^Dream~Theater^]

Man the quality on those suck...
You go to a concert, hold up a camera and get better quality then.

[Quebec]

Everybody, just a short post to remind you that DT's correct spelling is Dream Theater, NOT Dream Theatre. We've been seeing this mistake too much. Here's the proof: http://www.dtfaq.com/category/?categoryid=17#67

If the link doesn't work, read this:
What's with Fatez Warning in the IAW liners?

This is a joke regarding a misprint in the liners of Fates Warning's Parallels. In the liners, they thank "Dream Theatre", a commonly made spelling mistake which Dream Theater hates.

[The JoZ]

You go to a concert, hold up a camera and get better quality then.

Get me into the concert, and I will do my best :D

[ytsedrummer]

Okey dokey, on www.mikeportnoy.com, there's a poll about weather the next album should be 60 minutes or 80 minutes. Personally I say it should be filled to the MAX... the more the merrier. So what are your thoughts?

[The JoZ]

Where was it? I couldn't find it.

My vote would go to 80 mins though.

[Quebec]

Okey dokey, on www.mikeportnoy.com, there's a poll about weather the next album should be 60 minutes or 80 minutes. Personally I say it should be filled to the MAX... the more the merrier. So what are your thoughts?
I say 80min, but I can't find the poll!

[^Dream~Theater^]

I couldn't find it either:( But who's really gonna vote for 60 mins when it's a dream theater cd? There's no need for the poll.

[^Dream~Theater^]

John Petrucci's solo album is almost out. I seen the album cover and the list of tracks. Just a matter of the release date now.

[RiceMonster]

John Petrucci's solo album is almost out. I seen the album cover and the list of tracks. Just a matter of the release date now.
Awsome, I think I'll pick it up when it comes out.

[MAthiAS]

Okey dokey, on www.mikeportnoy.com, there's a poll about weather the next album should be 60 minutes or 80 minutes. Personally I say it should be filled to the MAX... the more the merrier. So what are your thoughts?
Yah really, why would they even ask?

[Quebec]

John Petrucci's solo album is almost out. I seen the album cover and the list of tracks. Just a matter of the release date now.
This will be a masterpiece.

[stoned_rat]

do DT make video clips for their songs........vid clips owuld b absoltely awesome...even if their clips owuld just b watching them playing, they are all so talented that just clips of them performing would be enough!

[stoned_rat]

also which of their songs have good guitar solos....or whichs ogns hsow off some of his good guitar talent....coz hes an awesom eguitarist

[Otherside]

Get the live at Budokan cd, Petrucci adds amazing solos on that album.

[Lord of Sword]

also which of their songs have good guitar solos....or whichs ogns hsow off some of his good guitar talent....coz hes an awesom eguitarist


stream of conciousness. that's one of his fastest, and watching him on the budokan dvd playing the sweeps near the end of the first part is just amazing, you just see his fingers blur about all over the place without missing a single not. the in the name of god legato unison is also pretty fast, and the this dying out outro unison, 16th notes at 200bpm played perfectly in unison with JR. just buy train of thought if you want fast stuff basically. not all his best solos, but probably his fastest.

[Otherside]

stream of conciousness. that's one of his fastest, and watching him on the budokan dvd playing the sweeps near the end of the first part is just amazing, you just see his fingers blur about all over the place without missing a single not. the in the name of god legato unison is also pretty fast, and the this dying out outro unison, 16th notes at 200bpm played perfectly in unison with JR. just buy train of thought if you want fast stuff basically. not all his best solos, but probably his fastest.


You left out the Hollow Years solo on the dvd.

[^Dream~Theater^]

You left out the Hollow Years solo on the dvd.
How about the Improv section on Beyond This Life? In The Name Of God's Solo? Trail Of Tears solo? There's way greater than the hollow years solo.

[Otherside]

How about the Improv section on Beyond This Life? In The Name Of God's Solo? Trail Of Tears solo? There's way greater than the hollow years solo.


Faster maybe, but the Hollow Years solo has emotion

[pizzapie88]

Is Metropolos Pt2 worth buying for my first DT CD? It's only 20 New Zealand Dollars at my local CD store. Or should I pay a bit more and go for another DT CD first?

[Raijo]

Is Metropolos Pt2 worth buying for my first DT CD? It's only 20 New Zealand Dollars at my local CD store. Or should I pay a bit more and go for another DT CD first?
SFAM is my favourite so I say yeah, definately. It's a great concept album.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Faster maybe, but the Hollow Years solo has emotion
Screw all you people who say he has no emotion when he plays, You have no idea what's running through Petrucci's head so don't act like you do.

[MAthiAS]

Do you guys think DT sold out on FII? I just got this one, along with When Dream And Day Unite. I'd say if they'd continued in that direction with 7DOIT, then yes, but since they didn't, then no.

[Otherside]

Screw all you people who say he has no emotion when he plays, You have no idea what's running through Petrucci's head so don't act like you do.


I never said he didn't have any emotion in his solos. I merely pointed out the raw emotion he does have during the Hollow Years solo.


Don't go throwing hissy fit over a difference of opinions.

[pseudokudo]

I've been listening to DT for about 8 - 9 years now. my first album was Awake. what a great album. been a huge fan since and think all players in the band are absolutely amazing. i went and seen them everytime they came to town and enjoyed every second. i've noticed in recent times between 6 degrees and train of thought i started to stray from them. the creativity of the music has declined a hair, but that's just my opinion. maybe DT meant for that to be? take it a little back to the roots. definetly fun stuff though. the addition of Jordan Rudess on keys brings some pretty crazy elements musically and in the live show. what a great player. who ever said they were warned to stay away from Falling into Infinity, don't be worried. it's a good album thats fun to sing along to. has some really nice tracks on it. DT rules! I would love to see Kevin on keys again sometime.

[led_zep_luvr]

what is an easy song to play on guitar by dream theater

[stoned_rat]

u know wats funny.......other than my psot about a page back....this thread had been abandonded since about 4months ago....but i managed to pst 2 posts and it has been revived...or at least aprtially....wow....

[Kurrpt]

i think the first half of YTSE jam isnt too hard. im still getting down some of the riffs.

[^Dream~Theater^]

u know wats funny.......other than my psot about a page back....this thread had been abandonded since about 4months ago....but i managed to pst 2 posts and it has been revived...or at least aprtially....wow....
You didn't revive this thread, I did. Some easy songs on guitar would be Strange Deja Vu, Honor Thy Father, Stream Of Consciousness, Pull me under.

[Quebec]

Is Metropolos Pt2 worth buying for my first DT CD? It's only 20 New Zealand Dollars at my local CD store. Or should I pay a bit more and go for another DT CD first?
I could be a good album to start, but only if you're comfortable with concept album. Maybe you should buy awake or 6DOIT but if starting with a concept album doesn't bother you, yes its a good start. It's a really good album.

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#arrow

Another world tour? ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm ready!!!!

[^Dream~Theater^]

Hopefully they will come to Canada

[Quebec]

Hopefully they will come to Canada
Hell yeah!

[The JoZ]

****, I'd love to see them come to Va Beach.

Hell, even DC!

If they come within 4 hours or so of here, I think I'm going to have to go.

[Quebec]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291856
Everybody vote for SFAM.

[MAthiAS]

****, I'd love to see them come to Va Beach.

Hell, even DC!

If they come within 4 hours or so of here, I think I'm going to have to go.
Yeah, thats my deal with all good shows. Usually theres a show within 2 hours but for DT I'd go the extra mile if I had to.

[RNR]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291856
Everybody vote for SFAM.
I did. That's by far their best album.

[MAthiAS]

*voted for Awake*

Personally I say Awake is their second best album, and Images and Words is their best.

[RiceMonster]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=291856
Everybody vote for SFAM.
Yep, I voted for them.

[Raijo]

Hopefully they will come to Canada
Hopefully they will. I wish they would come where I live but the chances of that are slim to none though. Maybe I'll be able to catch them in Toronto or something.

[demon_LLAMA]

What do you guys think of their' latest DVD 'Live in Budokan' (or whatever)?

I've been trying to get hold of a PAL version of it for a while now, no success so far.

[MAthiAS]

I've only heard the audio of As I Am. Sounds exactly the same as on the album, which is awesome in its own right.

[Quebec]

anyone heard the audio commentary on the "5 year in a LIVEtime"? They are pretty funny! Expecially during "cover my eyes" when John Petrucci tells us his bad luck with candles... Anyone heard it?

[willis2441]

i just heard the song "lie" from dream theater and it sucked worse than my mom when she was 18. please tell me there are better songs from them because i would hate to hate them.

[^Dream~Theater^]

i just heard the song "lie" from dream theater and it sucked worse than my mom when she was 18. please tell me there are better songs from them because i would hate to hate them.
Learn how to be a big boy and post with a little thought shall we? -Rep
Try these songs:
The Glass Prison
As I Am
This Dying Soul
The Test That Stumped Them All
Beyond This Life

[ArcLite]

YOU can get a free ipod if you click on this site and refer 5 friends NO JOKE

http://www.freeiPods.com/?r=14276058 :naughty:

No advertising dipshit.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Already reported.

[G_Mac07]

^ and quickly reported it was :thumb:

Can anyone suggest to me what would probably be the easiest DT song to begin learning. I've always kind of steered away from Petrucci's stuff because he is so technical, but I think it's about time I had a go at it.

[^Dream~Theater^]

^ and quickly reported it was :thumb:

Can anyone suggest to me what would probably be the easiest DT song to begin learning. I've always kind of steered away from Petrucci's stuff because he is so technical, but I think it's about time I had a go at it.
Through My Words
Erotomania(For the most part)
Strange Deja Vu
Overture 1928
Lie
Metropolis

[mprules]

mmm metropolis

pull me under?

[G_Mac07]

Thanks, that should keep me busy for a while.

[Quebec]

i just heard the song "lie" from dream theater and it sucked worse than my mom when she was 18. please tell me there are better songs from them because i would hate to hate them.
Well, if you don't like LIE... Sorry but its a ****in great song!

[back to the front]

Hey Theater fans. I have a question about what album to get next. I have ToT, SFAM, and Images and Words. What next?

[^Dream~Theater^]

Hey Theater fans. I have a question about what album to get next. I have ToT, SFAM, and Images and Words. What next?
Awake or Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence, Both very good albums.

[back to the front]

Alrighty, now all i need is some cash.

[asshead27]

^^^^^get awake

i am a huge DT fan. i have every thing they have released (except the live cds). they are one of my favourite bands. as far as favourite albums, here is my list in order from best to worst (not including live albums).
1) I&A
2) Awake
3) Scenes from a memory
4) Train of Thought
5) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance
6) A Change of Seasons
7) When a Dream and Day Unite
8) Falling Into Infinity

tht list was pointless, but im bored. either way, DT are an amzing band live (both in person and on DVD).

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#graspop
New world tour date confirmed: Graspop festival in Belgium

[MAthiAS]

1) I&A
2) Awake
3) Scenes from a memory
4) Train of Thought
5) Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance
6) A Change of Seasons
7) When a Dream and Day Unite
8) Falling Into Infinity
Yeah, I'd go:
1. I and W
2. Awake
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. Scenes from a Memory
5. A Change of Seasons (Would be higher, but its just one song)
6. When Dream And Day Unite
7. Train of Thought
8. Falling into Infinity

I bet if WDADU had Labrie, it'd be number 3.

[Quebec]

My list:

1)Six degrees of inner turbulence
2)Awake
3)Scenes from a memory
4)Train of thought
5)A change of season (EP)
6)Images and words
7)when dream and day unite
8)falling into infinity

p.s. I didn't heard the full version of number 6/7/8.

[Quebec]

Does anyone here owns the Train of thought transcription book? Considering I liked the album and that I'm getting good at guitar, I'm thinking about buying it but I don't know if there's a lot of mistake and things like that.

[^Dream~Theater^]

No need to buy it. Go on the DT website and look up the fans transcriptions, they all seem accurate when i play them.

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/media_tabs.php?s=guitar
Can't find tabs for TOT

[^Dream~Theater^]

Mxtabs.net
They have every ToT song except Stream and i can give you a link to that if you want it.

[Maxen]

How insane is the solo for "Stream" on the Budokan DVD?!

Extreeeeeeme.

[Quebec]

Mxtabs.net
They have every ToT song except Stream and i can give you a link to that if you want it.
Give me that link! I've been searching for a valuable tab for Stream for a long time!

[the2stranger]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#graspop
New world tour date confirmed: Graspop festival in Belgium



so awesome!!!!

but am I going to graspop or arrow festival? :confused:
I'll have to wait for the complete program of those 2 festivals, before I make up my mind

[G_Mac07]

DT in concert would be amazing. It's a pity they probably won't make it to Australia :upset:

And to ^Dream~Theater^, Where did you get that "eye for an eye and the world will be blind" quote. I really like it. Sorry for the irrelevance guys.

[Aberrationbass]

dudes i've been wanting to know this for a while and who better to ask than you guys!

The scenes from a memory album tells a story (obviously) where did DT get this from? And is it true?

[Mr Benners]

Hmmmm DT list.......
(These are the ones i own, in order of preference)

1.Images And Words
2.Scenes From A Memory
3.Awake
4.Train Of Thought
5.A Change Of Seasons
6.Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence

Its REALLY close though, as in i love all of them!

Any ideas which album I should buy next?

[^Dream~Theater^]

DT in concert would be amazing. It's a pity they probably won't make it to Australia :upset:

And to ^Dream~Theater^, Where did you get that "eye for an eye and the world will be blind" quote. I really like it. Sorry for the irrelevance guys.
The quote is from Ghandi and I can't get the link to the Stream tab as of right now(site is down) but I will post it when it goes up(hopefully I remember to!)

[Quebec]

dudes i've been wanting to know this for a while and who better to ask than you guys!

The scenes from a memory album tells a story (obviously) where did DT get this from? And is it true?
Here's where Metropolis part I came from:http://www.dtfaq.com/category/?categoryid=17#75
And obviously SFAM is about the same thing!

[Quebec]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=295409
vote for Images and Words!

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#swedenrock
Another date confirmed: Sweden rock festival

[^Dream~Theater^]

Here's the tabs for Stream.
http://metaltabs.com/tab/6963/

[BradyEB]

Hey guys \m/
Anyone know a site where I could possably download John Myung - Progressive Bass Concepts?

[Quebec]

Here's the tabs for Stream.
http://metaltabs.com/tab/6963/
Thanks!!! (+rep)

[mordredozzy124]

Alright, I own Images and Words, and love it, but Im wondering, :which CD next? Maybe Scenes from a Memory?

[mprules]

awake, i love awake, argh get anything after Images exscept falling into infinity

[BradyEB]

SFAM Is my personal favourite DT album so i say go try that out. :naughty:

[^Dream~Theater^]

awake, i love awake, argh get anything after Images exscept falling into infinity
FII is a good album, Just the album that's disregarded by most Dream Theater fans.

[RNR]

SFAM is their best :).

omg FII is teh sell out lolz

[The JoZ]

FII is a good album, Just the album that's disregarded by most Dream Theater fans.

Trial of Tears is one of their better songs, I think. Not quite up there with Glass Prison, but still very, very good. I find myself listening to it alot lately...

That being said, does anyone else share my view that SFAM is just a bit overrated? After I finally sat and listened to the album, I felt a bit disappointed...musically, it was a bit too light for my taste, with the exception of a few parts here and there. The story is great, but it was hard to get into it, due to the instrumentation...

[RNR]

It's really a second and third listen album. Listen to it a few more times to really get into it.

But yes, it is a tiny bit overrated.

[^Dream~Theater^]

People overhype SFAM way to much when they have alot better work, It's just a masterpiece when it comes to being a concept album. Trial of tears, New millenium, Peruvian skies, Lines in the sand, Hells kitchen..Fii Had alot of good songs even though they were pushed into making the album a certain way.

[Triangle]

People overhype SFAM way to much when they have alot better work, It's just a masterpiece when it comes to being a concept album. Trial of tears, New millenium, Peruvian skies, Lines in the sand, Hells kitchen..Fii Had alot of good songs even though they were pushed into making the album a certain way.
Yeah SFAM was slightly overrated. FII is ok, a few great songs on there but the rest are just a waste of space.

[RiceMonster]

I haven't really heard anything off of FII, so I can't judge. I agree that SFAM is over hyped, its very good, but people praise it to much.

[^Dream~Theater^]

I haven't really heard anything off of FII, so I can't judge. I agree that SFAM is over hyped, its very good, but people praise it to much.
Try these songs:
Trial Of Tears
Hells Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
New Millenium

[RiceMonster]

Try these songs:
Trial Of Tears
Hells Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
New Millenium
Alright thanks.

[Quebec]

Yeah SFAM was slightly overrated. FII is ok, a few great songs on there but the rest are just a waste of space.
I think that everybody says SFAM is really good because it came out right after FII! And I agree with your statement, Peruvian skies and trial of tears are great songs but new millenium...

[^Dream~Theater^]

I think that everybody says SFAM is really good because it came out right after FII! And I agree with your statement, Peruvian skies and trial of tears are great songs but new millenium...
The bass on New Millenium is unreal!!

[Quebec]

The bass on New Millenium is unreal!!
Yeah Myung plays a chapman stick which is pretty cool, but apart from that I dont think it was such a great song.. But I agree, the bass is good!

[RNR]

Hehe. Myung is the most talented member of dream theater I think. He copies the guitar parts but on bass alot.. That's extremely hard to do.

[^Dream~Theater^]

More talented than Petrucci? That's saying a mouthful:)

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#summer2005

Another 2005/2006 tour date:

June 18th - Loca Rock Festival - Murcia, Spain
(also on the bill: IRON MAIDEN)

[jiashen]

hello people, here's a quick question. i just bought scenes from a memory and on the last track, finally free, at 11:17 after "open your eyes nicholas - *shocked exclamation*" there's a whole length of buzzing sound all the way the end of the song at 11:59. tell me this isn't intentional.

[Otherside]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates.php#summer2005

Another 2005/2006 tour date:

June 18th - Loca Rock Festival - Murcia, Spain
(also on the bill: IRON MAIDEN)


Lucky bastards.

[jamesclelland]

i recently bought train of thought, and i was blown away. are there previous cds just as good, better? i was thinking of getting six degrees of inner turbulance but it's god**** expensive.

[Otherside]

i recently bought train of thought, and i was blown away. are there previous cds just as good, better? i was thinking of getting six degrees of inner turbulance but it's god**** expensive.


Try Scenes from a Memory or Awake.

[G_Mac07]

Awake is awesome, although lately I've been preferring Train Of Thought. Also, has anyone been able to get that bonus footage stuff on ToT to work? What is it?

[Quebec]

hello people, here's a quick question. i just bought scenes from a memory and on the last track, finally free, at 11:17 after "open your eyes nicholas - *shocked exclamation*" there's a whole length of buzzing sound all the way the end of the song at 11:59. tell me this isn't intentional.
It is intentional! It's also the begining of "the glass prison" (1st track off 6doit)

[MNbassist78]

It is intentional! It's also the begining of "the glass prison" (1st track off 6doit)

Wow, I have never noticed that it is also the begining of "The Glass Prison", hmm.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

I bought 6 Degrees a while ago and put on the back burner and had to firmly digest I&W, Awake and ToT...wow, the Glass Prison owns my ***!

Right now, its the best DT song I have ever heard.

That's all I wanted to say...

[RiceMonster]

To be honest, I've never been a fan of the Glass Prison. I'm not sure why.

[Omega Red]

Some one send me some good dream theater. preferably with as little singing as possible, and some good bass playing solos what have you. other than that i'll take everything you have. zip it and post it at www.yousendit.com

then i'm me TIA

[ytsedrummer]

All Hail The Glass Prison!

[MNbassist78]

Yeah, I really like the riff in "The Glass Prision" with the wah, and basically the whole song, which I love.

[Quebec]

www.YtseJamRecords.com
New official DT bootlegs available



By the way, The glass prison RULES

[jiashen]

It is intentional! It's also the begining of "the glass prison" (1st track off 6doit)
thanks a lot, i was just about to go back to the shop to ask for another copy. would've wasted my trip. anyway SFAM is quite incredible. i actually downloaded it (shhh...), and bought it because i thought the songs were great. then i realised there's even a story woven into the songs. haha, good stuff. i like how the vocalist sings higher at parts to mimick a girl's voice (victoria). it's pretty **** funny.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, I really like the riff in "The Glass Prision" with the wah, and basically the whole song, which I love.
Yeah, kind of like how Home's riff is.

[GenuineImitation]

I have been getting into dream theater lately and I have train of thought and Once in a livetime. I have heard both pull me under and under a glass moon, is the rest of the cd Images and Words worth getting?

[ytsedrummer]

ALL Dream Theater is worth getting.

[MNbassist78]

I have been getting into dream theater lately and I have train of thought and Once in a livetime. I have heard both pull me under and under a glass moon, is the rest of the cd Images and Words worth getting?

If you like "Pull Me Under" and "Under a Glass Moon", then its definitely worth getting. Images and Words awsome.

[ytsedrummer]

A Change Of Seasons is pretty killer too. Its an EP.

[Burdcheese]

Images and Words is next on my DT list, though I am toying with the idea of getting the Live at Budokan (Bukodan?) DVD.

This thread is far too short.... That just struck me

[3rdplanet]

Images and Words is next on my DT list, though I am toying with the idea of getting the Live at Budokan (Bukodan?) DVD.

This thread is far too short.... That just struck me

The DVD is amazing, and I think it may be limited edition, although it doesn't say it on the case, or is it the CD set that is?

Anyway, I would say get the DVD, the multi-angle Instrumedley is ace, they play all kinds of stuff in it. The song selection for the DVD is ace too, although I would have liked it if Lie and The Glass Prision had been on it.

[MAthiAS]

Would you guys recamend the Budokan DVD or the Live Scenes one? I've seen the Tokyo one, but not those two.

[^Dream~Theater^]

The budokan Dvd is their best one Imo. Images and Words live in Tokyo is very good as well. Live scenes contains Acos, so enough said about that.

[GenuineImitation]

If you like "Pull Me Under" and "Under a Glass Moon", then its definitely worth getting. Images and Words awsome.

Thanks for the help. My friend said he didnt like it and traded it in befoe I got to listen to it.

[TheaterOfDreams]

I thoght ToT was more of a "let's be as technically excellent as possible" type of album. There was more solos (at least I think so) it seemed to not have much soul in it. Well I have ToT SDOIT and Images and Words, what album should I get next?

[nowitzki]

Live scenes has the best set of all the DVDs but has the crappiest editing ever. budokan is a lot more professional, but you can't go wrong with scenes - SFAM in full, learning to live and a change of seasons = awesome

TheaterOfDreams - get SFAM next

[Burdcheese]

This thread is languishing half way down page 3 - in an attempt to breathe new life in here, what are your 3 favourite DT songs?

Mine:
1. Endless Sacrifice
2. Pull Me Under
3. Home

[MAthiAS]

This thread is languishing half way down page 3 - in an attempt to breathe new life in here, what are your 3 favourite DT songs?

Mine:
1. Endless Sacrifice
2. Pull Me Under
3. Home
1. Take the Time
2. Blind Faith
3. In the Name of God

[Shadius]

I love most of Images and Words and Scenes from a memory, havn't listened to any of their other albums in any great detail though.

Three favourite songs are probably Home, Another Day and Beyond This Life.

Could change any time though, hehe.

[Burdcheese]

^^They always can.

Mine are taken from the very limited number of CDs i own. With a wider collection comes different favourites (normally)

[MNbassist78]

My three favorite songs as of right now are probably "A Change of Seasons" "Pull Me Under" and the whole seconed disc of "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"

[Quebec]

This thread is languishing half way down page 3 - in an attempt to breathe new life in here, what are your 3 favourite DT songs?

Mine:
1. Endless Sacrifice
2. Pull Me Under
3. Home
1. A change of seasons
2. The glass Prison
3. Dissapear

[3rdplanet]

1. Stream of Consciousness
2. Space Dye Vest
3. Lie

Man, that is so **** difficult.

[Quebec]

1. Stream of Consciousness
2. Space Dye Vest
3. Lie

Man, that is so **** difficult.
Yeah Thats too difficult, lets go with a top 10:

1. A change of seasons
2. The glass Prison
3. Dissapear
4. In the name of god
5. Home
6. Lie
7. Metropolis part 1
8. Fatal Tragedy
9. Blind faith
10. Peruvian skies

[3rdplanet]

1. Stream of Consciousness
2. Space Dye Vest
3. Lie
4. Metropolis Pt. 1
5. In the Name of God
6. Voices
7. Hell's Kitchen
8. Scarred
9. Misunderstood
10. The Glass Prison

Also, a big big shout out to their Instrumedleys.

[MAthiAS]

Okay 10 songs it is, no real order:
Take the Time
Blind Faith
In the Name of God
A Change of Seasons
6:00
Scarred
Space Dye Vest
Beyond this Life
Learning to Live
Dance of Eternity

[^Dream~Theater^]

No order

Learning To Live
A Change Of Seasons
The Great Debate
This Dying Soul
Trail Of Tears
Erotomania
Voices
Beyond This Life
Under A Glass Moon
Scarred

[Otherside]

Change of Seasons
Glass Prison
Dance of Eternity

Edit: Actually, instead of DoE, I'm gonna say Instrumedly :p

[shawnson]

hmm... in no order

metropolis pt. 1
change of seasons
glass prison
under a glass moon
stream of consciousness
ytse jam
learning to live
pull me under
as i am
dance of eternity

[ytsedrummer]

Don't have a favourite song by Dream Theater, too good of a band lol.

[G_Mac07]

Doe's anyone here ever find DT vocals irritating? I see numerous people on the forums saying that they can't get into the band because of LaBrie's vocals, but I fail to see a problem with them.

And also, does LaBrie usually write his own lyrics? Because I looked at the ToT album booklet the other day and most lyrics were written by Petrucci or Portnay.

[BradyEB]

I've never had a problem with them. Some songs i dont really like the vocals in like The Great Debate. But most songs i really like the vocals and there melodys.

[Reidie86]

Doe's anyone here ever find DT vocals irritating? I see numerous people on the forums saying that they can't get into the band because of LaBrie's vocals, but I fail to see a problem with them.

And also, does LaBrie usually write his own lyrics? Because I looked at the ToT album booklet the other day and most lyrics were written by Petrucci or Portnay.

laBrie is one of the reasons i like dream theater so much, he is a great vocalist, although he lets the band down a bit on the budokan dvd i think

[IvortheEngineDriver]

laBrie is one of the reasons i like dream theater so much, he is a great vocalist, although he lets the band down a bit on the budokan dvd i think
I agree...I thought he was flat in the DVD (Especially in "This Dying Soul"), but he's something that has to grow on you. I hated his voice at first then I realized..."wow, he's hittin' those notes, that's impressive", so now, I think he's a very underrated singer

Anyway, my top 10, in no order:

1. The Glass Prison
2. Endless Sacrifice
3. As I Am
4. Learning to Live
5. Under a Glass Moon
6. The Mirror
7. Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu
8. Lie
9. The Silent Man
10. Surrounded

[^Dream~Theater^]

Doe's anyone here ever find DT vocals irritating? I see numerous people on the forums saying that they can't get into the band because of LaBrie's vocals, but I fail to see a problem with them.

And also, does LaBrie usually write his own lyrics? Because I looked at the ToT album booklet the other day and most lyrics were written by Petrucci or Portnay.
Labrie dosen't write any of the songs, with the exception of vacant I think. Petrucci and Portnoy write all of them, with the exception of Myung on trail of tears and maybe a few other songs.

[Reidie86]

I agree...I thought he was flat in the DVD (Especially in "This Dying Soul"), but he's something that has to grow on you. I hated his voice at first then I realized..."wow, he's hittin' those notes, that's impressive", so now, I think he's a very underrated singer


yeah, hes pretty average in "in the name of god" too. The dvd made me reconsider if laBrie is as good as i thaught he was (if he cant sing well live......) however on the "metropolis 2000: lives scenes from new york" dvd labrie is note perfect in every song pretty much, it was good to here.

[IvortheEngineDriver]

yeah, hes pretty average in "in the name of god" too. The dvd made me reconsider if laBrie is as good as i thaught he was (if he cant sing well live......) however on the "metropolis 2000: lives scenes from new york" dvd labrie is note perfect in every song pretty much, it was good to here.
Well, you do have to factor that he's 42, so, he might not be albe to hit the notes that he once hit...but I doubt that. Also, on Name of God, on the DVD...was anyone really annoyed with Pertucci's harmony on the chorus? Although, it was in sync, it was still really annoying...too high pitched. Anyone agree?

BTW...Instrumeledy on the DVD = Orgasm

[The JoZ]

Well, you do have to factor that he's 42, so, he might not be albe to hit the notes that he once hit...but I doubt that. Also, on Name of God, on the DVD...was anyone really annoyed with Pertucci's harmony on the chorus? Although, it was in sync, it was still really annoying...too high pitched. Anyone agree?

BTW...Instrumeledy on the DVD = Orgasm

Petrucci should never sing like that, ever, again.

Seriously, I thought it was an overdub of LaBrie or something...

No, I watch Budokan, and see Petrucci doing that part :amaze:

And LaBrie might not have done much writing on TOT, but he's done more on older albums.

Edit:

Favorite Songs:
The Glass Prison (All time favorite)
The Mirror/Lie
Caught in a Web
Blind Faith
As I Am
This Dying Soul
In the Name of God
Pull Me Under
Dance of Eternity
Trial of Tears

[3rdplanet]

I think Moore did a lot of the writing on Images & Words.

[Cowboy from hell]

The first time i heard Dream Theater was about 3months ago, in a van outside the uk distributer for Indie Guitars (im a roadie, n my boss person was there for sum reason) and the guitarist put some on, i think it was Metropollis part:1, and i was like hmmm interesting, so then about a month ago i saw 'Images and Words' and 'Awake' for 7 quid each, i snapped em up and wow. I think there ace and can't wait to see them come to the UK, although my friend said he'd mentioned them to me about 18months ago (i can't remember, he probably did)

[Zephadis]

Home
Strange Deja Vu
Voices

[Shadius]

At first I thought the vocals were slightly dated, but they're really not that bad at all. They definately grow on you. Sometimes LeBrie's voice is too high, but that also can grow on you. He's a good singer.

I think a lot of people who complain about his vocals are into other styles of metal with harsher or deeper vocals.

[The JoZ]

LaBrie's vocals are definetly an aquired taste. Sometimes he's a little too high, and Geddy Lee-ish.

But other times, he's on target. See, The Glass Prison, The Mirror, Lie, for example..

[MAthiAS]

LaBrie's vocals are definetly an aquired taste. Sometimes he's a little too high, and Geddy Lee-ish.

Being like Geddy Lee is a good thing...

I think Labrie's vocals are best when they're all high, like pretty much all of Images and Words. On Awake, he mixed it up a bit more, and I really prefer his style on Images and Words.

[The JoZ]

Being like Geddy Lee is a good thing...

I think Labrie's vocals are best when they're all high, like pretty much all of Images and Words. On Awake, he mixed it up a bit more, and I really prefer his style on Images and Words.

Well, I'm pretty much the reverse. I think his work on Awake was far better. Part of the reason I don't listen to Rush as often as, say, Tool or whoever, is because of Geddy's vocal style. I like a singer who can show off a wide variety of ranges and sounds, for the most part, and Geddy doesn't really do that.

LaBrie does it a little more, but not on I&W. He does it more on Awake, Six Degrees and ToT, and those are my personal favorites of theirs.

[3rdplanet]

^ LaBrie is better on Awake than Images & Words.

He is still fantastic on both though.

[MAthiAS]

Well, I'm pretty much the reverse. I think his work on Awake was far better. Part of the reason I don't listen to Rush as often as, say, Tool or whoever, is because of Geddy's vocal style. I like a singer who can show off a wide variety of ranges and sounds, for the most part, and Geddy doesn't really do that.

LaBrie does it a little more, but not on I&W. He does it more on Awake, Six Degrees and ToT, and those are my personal favorites of theirs.
I know what you're saying. Personal taste I guess. Awake is still amazing, I just like his singing a bit better on Images and Words.

[Quebec]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/news_labrie.php#jlbsolo
New James LaBrie solo album out soon!

[Reidie86]

laBrie is at his best on scenes from a memory

[The JoZ]

Meh.

Some of us think SFAM is overrated, so...

I didn't pay much attention to his vocals, actually. Maybe I'll go back and give it another listen and pay attention.

[Cain]

I know what you're saying. Personal taste I guess. Awake is still amazing, I just like his singing a bit better on Images and Words.

Agreed. I especially love it when he hits those highs on "Learning to Live," and especially his singing on "Pull Me Under" are just perfect for the song. They really get me into it.

[Darkest Hour]

Labries vocals are definately an acquired taste, many of my friends dont like the band because of the vocals, but there is always Liquid tension experiment out there for them

[sbgFX]

New here..
I see a lot of Carey/Portnoy comparrisons but frankly do not fully understand why. You're comparing apples to oranges. If both drummers were to switch bands and be "forced" to play each other's material- how good to you figure it'd sound? Not as good as they both do now in their respective bands, I bet. So ultimately, what's the point in these comparrisons? Do you think Mike sits back and thinks to himself: "hmm, I wonder if I 'pwn' Danny...?"? Likewise, do you really think Danny lounges around in his boxers wondering the same thing? My guess is no, so why are YOU? Rather than being so preoccupied with "who is better" or "who 'pwns who" why not just appreciate both drummers for BOTH of the contributions they make in the drumming world; whether you appreciate either or not. It's just respect. I admire both.

As for favorite DT album, I'll be honest; I can't narrow it down. To me, DT's best attribute is the fact that they do, over time, maintain the "progressive" idea. ToT is almost nothing like Images & Words and I see that as a positive thing. To see some so "stuck on" previous albums, proclaiming those to be "their best" just seems narrow to me. They evolve, they do different things WHILE maintaining the very progressive style fans have come to expect from them. When 'As I Am' was released, it was a very triumphant song to me. I absolutely love[d] it. The lyrics: "Don't tell me how to write" and "..I won't change to fit YOUR plan.." speak volumes to me. If these would-be DT bashers believe they can do better, I cordially invite them to DO SO and I'll promptly buy their first CD. It's quite easy to sit back and critique others, 'ain't' it?

Favorite DT songs? I have many. [so many heh..]
In no particular order:
1. A Change of Seasons
2. The Mirror
3. Pull me Under [the first DT song I ever heard]
4. The Glass Prison
5. As I Am
6. Endless Sacrifice
7. Caught in a Web
8. Erotomania
9. Misunderstood
10. Peruvian Skies [would be a GREAT song to cover live...]
11. War Inside My Head
12. Space Dye Vest
..many more, really.

As for James' voice; I'm not the biggest fan either but like others have said, I can't imagine replacing him, because narrow-opinions aside, WHO better to sing DT's music we've all come to know than James himself?.. That aside, I've often wondered what DT would sound like if Timo Kotipelto [Stratovarius] joined. [Side note: Any Stratovarius fans here?]

[MAthiAS]

Agreed. I especially love it when he hits those highs on "Learning to Live," and especially his singing on "Pull Me Under" are just perfect for the song. They really get me into it.
Yeah, I agree completely.

As far as Portnoy vs. Carey, I don't even like Tool that much, so naturally I think Portnoy >> Carey. Tool is overrated IMO.

Any Stratovarius fans here?
Stratovarius is actually a band I'd like to get into. I've only heard Speed of Light, and its a very good song. Any recamendations?

[sbgFX]

At the risk of turning this into a Stratovarius thread, Here's some of my Stratovarius faves:
1. Elements [the song, not the CD heh..]
2. Fantasia
3. Why Are We Here?
4. I Walk
5. Mother Gaia
6. Black Diamond
7. Anthem of the World [many people like this one..]
8. Papillon
9. Run Away
10. Stratosphere

.. Those should get you going. :)

[MAthiAS]

At the risk of turning this into a Stratovarius thread, Here's some of my Stratovarius faves:
1. Elements [the song, not the CD heh..]
2. Fantasia
3. Why Are We Here?
4. I Walk
5. Mother Gaia
6. Black Diamond
7. Anthem of the World [many people like this one..]
8. Papillon
9. Run Away
10. Stratosphere

.. Those should get you going. :)
Thanks man, I'll be sure to check those out. Any particular albums?

[The JoZ]

New here..
I see a lot of Carey/Portnoy comparrisons but frankly do not fully understand why. You're comparing apples to oranges. If both drummers were to switch bands and be "forced" to play each other's material- how good to you figure it'd sound? Not as good as they both do now in their respective bands, I bet. So ultimately, what's the point in these comparrisons? Do you think Mike sits back and thinks to himself: "hmm, I wonder if I 'pwn' Danny...?"? Likewise, do you really think Danny lounges around in his boxers wondering the same thing? My guess is no, so why are YOU? Rather than being so preoccupied with "who is better" or "who 'pwns who" why not just appreciate both drummers for BOTH of the contributions they make in the drumming world; whether you appreciate either or not. It's just respect. I admire both.

Comparing Danny and Mike might be like comparing apples and oranges, but they are only compared because they are two of, if not, dare I say it, the best progressive metal drummers out there right now. Now, before anyone tries to pwn me by saying "Omg so and so pwns both of them" shut up, because I admit I don't know every prog metal band out there. So there.

That being said, I know for a fact Mike looks up to Danny, because he was quoted as saying Danny was one of his favorite current drummers right now. That being said, I'm pretty positive that neither Mike nor Danny sit around wondering who can outdo who. Quite honestly, if those two got into a drum off, I'm sure it would end a tie, because they are both consummate musicians, and would probably respect each others' abilites too much to say "I beat you". The argument goes on so much because many fans of Tool are fans of Dream Theater, and vice versa, so naturally, they compare the two. You can't compare Jones/Chancellor to Petrucci/Myung, because unless Tool's instrumentalists have been holding back, there is no comparison to those in Dream Theater, in terms of technical ability. Songwriting ability? That's a whole nother debate for another thread.

That being said, I personally enjoy Danny's drumming more. Mike, at least lately, seems to be relying too much on a bass-snare-bass-bassbassbass-snare pattern, while Danny's use of tom patterns is quite varied and unique on Lateralus. In terms of skill, well, both men have been educated quite thoroughly, and I'm not sure who could pwn one or the other. If I *had* to pick, objectively, I'd take Danny simply because I think he's more interesting, not necessarily more talented. /End Danny v Mike debate here

As for favorite DT album, I'll be honest; I can't narrow it down. To me, DT's best attribute is the fact that they do, over time, maintain the "progressive" idea. ToT is almost nothing like Images & Words and I see that as a positive thing. To see some so "stuck on" previous albums, proclaiming those to be "their best" just seems narrow to me. They evolve, they do different things WHILE maintaining the very progressive style fans have come to expect from them. When 'As I Am' was released, it was a very triumphant song to me. I absolutely love[d] it. The lyrics: "Don't tell me how to write" and "..I won't change to fit YOUR plan.." speak volumes to me. If these would-be DT bashers believe they can do better, I cordially invite them to DO SO and I'll promptly buy their first CD. It's quite easy to sit back and critique others, 'ain't' it?

ToT is without a doubt my favorite of theirs, because it so nicely blends heavy metal with progressive song structures. I don't like alot of their lighter material, I really don't. Stuff of I&W, or SFAM that is light and whatever...I really don't like most of it. I'm glad you're one of those who likes to see the actual progression occuring, not "I wish they still played like they did in 91" kind of people. :thumb:

As for James' voice; I'm not the biggest fan either but like others have said, I can't imagine replacing him, because narrow-opinions aside, WHO better to sing DT's music we've all come to know than James himself?..

I don't know if there's anyone who could sing DT better than him. But I do know that Charlie Dominici was not the right man for them. Honestly, anyone who doesn't like James' vocals shoud go grab When Dream and Day Unite and listen to some of Charlies' vocals. The sheer power and emotion that James brings to the table is far better than Charlie, even if he does rip off Geddy Lee every now and then ;)

[MAthiAS]

"I wish they still played like they did in 91" kind of people.
I don't think anyone says that. Personally, I like I and W more, but the new stuff is great too. Its different, but its still Dream Theater, and its great music, what more can you ask for.

I don't know if there's anyone who could sing DT better than him. But I do know that Charlie Dominici was not the right man for them. Honestly, anyone who doesn't like James' vocals shoud go grab When Dream and Day Unite and listen to some of Charlies' vocals. The sheer power and emotion that James brings to the table is far better than Charlie, even if he does rip off Geddy Lee every now and then
I recently got When Dream and Day Unite, and I am still amazed at how much better Labrie is. I agree, if you think Labrie doesn't fit their music, listen to this guy. If Labrie was on WDADU, it would probably be up there with the other albums, because the instrumental work is superb.

[The JoZ]

I don't think anyone says that. Personally, I like I and W more, but the new stuff is great too. Its different, but its still Dream Theater, and its great music, what more can you ask for..

I have seen enough people say that the new stuff sucks, or that heavier DT is bad, then they proceed to tell me that I&W is the best thing they've ever done, etc etc.

So, whiile everyone who likes I&W might not think that way, I have seen plenty of people who do, which is a sahme, because ToT is brilliant in and of itself :thumb:

[sbgFX]

I'm pretty positive that neither Mike nor Danny sit around wondering who can outdo who. Quite honestly, if those two got into a drum off, I'm sure it would end a tie, because they are both consummate musicians, and would probably respect each others' abilites too much to say "I beat you".

That sums it up, yup.

As for who is more talented, who is more creative, who is more hairy, who has a bigger nose, who has more friends, who can drink more, who has the most drums, who has the most MD Awards - Does it all really matter? LOL.. It's as though these people who say "Well <enter name here> is more creative.." are trying to, withuot actually saying it, sway anyone who might differ as if anyone with a different opinion is a threat.

Rather than compare Tool and DT - let's compare DT and Tool AGAINST the mainstream "rock greats" of today. That'd be a more worthwhile venture, no? Let's compareDT to Linkin Park just to see what happens.. Let's compare DT to just about any 'mainstream' band today.. ;) As far as I'm concerned Tool and DT might as well tour together; both as headliners. :P

[MAthiAS]

So, whiile everyone who likes I&W might not think that way, I have seen plenty of people who do, which is a sahme, because ToT is brilliant in and of itself :thumb:
Indeed it is. Dream Theater is actually one of those bands when I listen to a certain album, I might consider it their best at that time, then change my mind 5 seconds later when a song off a different album comes on. Same way with Iron Maiden.

[The JoZ]

Rather than compare Tool and DT - let's compare DT and Tool AGAINST the mainstream "rock greats" of today. That'd be a more worthwhile venture, no? Let's compareDT to Linkin Park just to see what happens.. Let's compare DT to just about any 'mainstream' band today.. ;) As far as I'm concerned Tool and DT might as well tour together; both as headliners. :P

I would kill tons of people to see Tool and DT do a tour together.

John Myung is a big fan of Tool too, which astonished me a little actually.

Seriously, a Tool and DT tour would just...rock so hard it isn't even funny

[sbgFX]

Dream Theater is actually one of those bands when I listen to a certain album, I might consider it their best at that time, then change my mind 5 seconds later when a song off a different album comes on.

haha...yup.

[sbgFX]

PS: Sorry... new here, how do you "quote" like that? [with the original poster's name?] All I know is the bb code [ quote ] etc.... :)

[The JoZ]

Hit the Reply button in the bottom right hand corner of the post :thumb:

[sbgFX]

Hit the Reply button in the bottom right hand corner of the post :thumb:

testing... :-P LOL...

[Quebec]

I would kill tons of people to see Tool and DT do a tour together.

John Myung is a big fan of Tool too, which astonished me a little actually.

Seriously, a Tool and DT tour would just...rock so hard it isn't even funny
That would seriously rock

[shawnson]

or metallica and dt. they're signed to the same label (elektra), so why not? i would give all my money and my left nut for tickets to that.