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scenesfromatheater

11-01-2005, 06:01 PM

nowitzki

11-01-2005, 06:19 PM

They're definitely progressive at times, I couldn't understand all of the points on that list.

Aaron

11-01-2005, 06:43 PM

i think they're talented guys, but the effort and talent could make better music. i dont like the songs, only the technical ability.

GenuineImitation

11-01-2005, 06:56 PM

i think they're talented guys, but the effort and talent could make better music. i dont like the songs, only the technical ability.

What songs have you heard. Im not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what songs you have heard.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 04:46 AM

I have a few Tool albums. The only songs I listen to offen are Stinkfist and Schism.

Aaron

11-02-2005, 05:16 AM

What songs have you heard. Im not questioning your judgment, I just want to know what songs you have heard.

i've only had a chance to listen to metropolis II and watched the portnoy DVD. is it they're less accessable stuff? it just didn't click with me i guess

beaNN

11-02-2005, 06:58 AM

I've got scenes from a memory which I really like but is it just me or is Train Of Thought and the new one really dull albums? I just find Train Of Thought really boring.

G_Mac07

11-02-2005, 07:15 AM

I don't listen to Octavium too often for that reason, but I love Train Of Thought. I can't really explain why, because it's opinion based, but I just don't find it boring. The only problem with it is that sometimes it seems they are more concerned with showing off technical ability than writing a good song, but I can live with that.

Do you like the older albums like Awake?

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 07:46 AM

i've only had a chance to listen to metropolis II and watched the portnoy DVD. is it they're less accessable stuff? it just didn't click with me i guess

You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.

I've got scenes from a memory which I really like but is it just me or is Train Of Thought and the new one really dull albums? I just find Train Of Thought really boring.

I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:

Lord Abortion

11-02-2005, 07:50 AM

The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one

G_Mac07

11-02-2005, 07:52 AM

The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 08:48 AM

Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 10:20 AM

YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... ...that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:

red barchetta

11-02-2005, 10:27 AM

Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.
thats the highlight of the whole cd :thumb:

Triangle

11-02-2005, 11:17 AM

YYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... ...that's one quality scream. Never knew he could do it that well.:lol:
hehe, awesome. I love that part.

I laugh when their old singer attempts to pull it off on the album and fails.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 11:23 AM

Where abouts is it in the studio version??

Shred Danson

11-02-2005, 11:26 AM

The intro to As I Am is excellent as well. In fact, that album as a whole just seems a lot darker/heavier than their other works.

Yes indeed..."Endless Sacrifice" was a great one, too...it kinda reminded me of a prog version of "Sanitarium".

Ad Absurdum

11-02-2005, 11:42 AM

:) Yeah, I'd say they're alternative/progressive rock, for want of a better genre. They're hard to classify really though. There are definitely elements of prog in their music, anyway.

I'm pretty sure that Space Dye Vest hasn't been played live only as a gesture to Kevin Moore, as it's pretty much his song. I don't think there are any legal reasons why they couldn't play it live, if they really wanted to. The band would own the rights to it, I'd imagine.
They definately have prog elements. I think that the comment saying they aren't was tongue-in-cheek, saying that they aren't prog because they don't have long solos etc. They have long songs, concept albums and strange time signatures which are defining characteristics of a prog band in my opinion.

bwnstl

11-02-2005, 11:50 AM

Listen to LaBrie on The Killing Hand, live at the Marquee at about 4.35. Wow.

Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is bjwumr@gmail.com if someone would be so kind. :)

beaNN

11-02-2005, 12:18 PM

You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.

I don't find ToT boring whatsoever, I think its an amazing album. But it is far less varied than all the others.

You should get Images & Words :thumb:
Yea, i've got it but I am shamed to say that i've not really listened to it!

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 12:30 PM

That can't be right, it's a Dream Theater song, it's just the band's desicion not to play it.
Kevin Moore wrote and performed all of it except a vocal track. If you look at the Awake CD cover, it's under a different publisher and Kevin owns the rights.
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/about/mpfaq/showquestion.asp?menu=about&faq=1&fldAuto=382
Mike Portnoy's statement about the live performance of SDV.
The haunting riffs that introduce alot of the ToT songs are brilliant, such as the Honour thy father one
The intros to Stream of Consciousness and In The Name Of God are two of the most haunting guitar riffs I've ever heard.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 02:22 PM

I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.

3FingeredHoek

11-02-2005, 02:48 PM

Could someone possibly YSI that album to me?
email is bjwumr@gmail.com if someone would be so kind. :)

Yeah me too please, esandy24@hotmail.com.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 02:53 PM

I love SOC only when Vacant is played before. It creates an incredible atmosphere...then SOC just comes in with the heavy stuff.
Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 02:56 PM

Yeah, it's a brilliant continuation and progression on the themes presented in Vacant.

To put it intelligently.:thumb:

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:23 PM

I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 04:26 PM

I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.

My music teacher say I'm the best guitarist he's ever had in his class. And he's been teaching for about 10 years.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:27 PM

Well... isn't that sweet. I can't play guitar very well, but I've been playing bass for a good 5 years. How long have you been playing?

I could play the Metropolis tapping solo when I was 12... :upset:

Happy

11-02-2005, 04:30 PM

I'm a genius, what do you expect. My music teacher calls me the "teacher", and I freequently make her jaw drop with my wild amount of knowledge.
I'm in a class full of tards. (well most of them are) Most of them can't grasp the circle of fifths :upset:
I've only been playing guitar 1 1/2 years and I'm not so great. Bands learning Beyond this life minus the solo 'cos i'm not that good yet.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 04:31 PM

You guys who want Live At The Marquee, I'll AIM it too you if you want.

Happy

11-02-2005, 04:31 PM

I wish I had AIM.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:33 PM

I'm in a class full of tards. (well most of them are) Most of them can't grasp the circle of fifths :upset:
I've only been playing guitar 1 1/2 years and I'm not so great. Bands learning Beyond this life minus the solo 'cos i'm not that good yet.

I tend to get mixed up and write on treble clef in bass clef. And sometimes even the other way round! My calss is full of retards who play violins and piano badly and kids who only listen to Slayer.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 04:33 PM

I could play the Metropolis tapping solo when I was 12... :upset:

Can't you play it any more then? I really want to be able to play it accurately, that's the only part of the song I can't play, except for the section after that little break (well when they play live the big break) up until the last verse.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:35 PM

I can still play it, but in the first years of comp I didn't have many friends and so spent the first year of bass playing practising for 3 or 4 hours a night. I only broke out of the habit about a year ago, when I made some real friends.

I can play the bit you're talking about, but I can only play it on a good day, sometimes I'll pull it off, sometimes it'll suck major bass and I'll keep messing up. My band covers Metropolis and Voices live, so I need to keep on the nift.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 04:44 PM

My band covers Metropolis and Voices live, so I need to keep on the nift.

:upset: ...when we play a cover live, it's usually Cowboys from Hell or something easy like that.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:47 PM

We cover a few Pain of Savation and Symphony X songs too... But I wanted to start a metal band, like Pantera or Slayer or something... To do in my spare time.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 04:49 PM

We cover a few Pain of Savation and Symphony X songs too... But I wanted to start a metal band, like Pantera or Slayer or something... To do in my spare time.

We are only good enough to cover the odd Slayer or Pantera song, we did a Trivium song once also.

Toaster

11-02-2005, 04:53 PM

There's been a lot of showboating lately.. put your skills where your mouth is. Post some DT solos!

Roo_bass

11-02-2005, 04:55 PM

We cover a few Pain of Savation and Symphony X songs too... But I wanted to start a metal band, like Pantera or Slayer or something... To do in my spare time.
You're pretty lucky to be in a band that can cover DT (and Symphony X). I'm in a band with a guitarist that likes DT and could play some of their songs and in another band with a drummer that could probably play some of their songs, maybe I should start my own group.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 04:56 PM

You're pretty lucky to be in a band that can cover DT (and Symphony X). I'm in a band with a guitarist that likes DT and could play some of their songs and in another band with a drummer that could probably play some of their songs, maybe I should start my own group.

With me and shamed-angel:naughty: .

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 04:56 PM

There's been a lot of showboating lately.. put your skills where your mouth is. Post some DT solos!
We've got an E.P of our own stuff coming out soon... But I'll record the metropolis solo for you if you like... I'll need to buy a new midi sound card, but It's worth it for you guys.
With me and shamed-angel:naughty: .
:lol::D:lol:

Roo_bass

11-02-2005, 04:57 PM

There's been a lot of showboating lately.. put your skills where your mouth is. Post some DT solos!
If I could record, I would do the Metropolis bass solo.

Post 666!

GenuineImitation

11-02-2005, 05:00 PM

We've got an E.P of our own stuff coming out soon... But I'll record the metropolis solo for you if you like... I'll need to buy a new midi sound card, but It's worth it for you guys.

:lol::D:lol:

That would be cool. I love the Metropolis solo. Do you follow it exactly, or do you add your own style to it?

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:00 PM

I can record, but I can't play any decent DT solos.

Happy 666th post Roo_Bass

EDIT: YAY, HAPPY 500TH POST TO ME!

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:00 PM

I've still only ever met one person who can play the entire of Dance of Eternity. And that's the guy who got me into DT when I was 11... :upset: He was incredible. The Bass solo is meant to be a musical progression on the Metropolis Pt1 bass solo, it's just insane.
That would be cool. I love the Metropolis solo. Do you follow it exactly, or do you add your own style to it?
I pretty much play it the way JM does, albeit not quite as precise.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:02 PM

I've still only ever met one person who can play the entire of Dance of Eternity. And that's the guy who got me into DT when I was 11... :upset: He was incredible. The Bass solo is meant to be a musical progression on the Metropolis Pt1 bass solo, it's just insane.

I think it took Portnoy about 10 attemps to play on Liquid Drum Theater or something.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:04 PM

I think it took Portnoy about 10 attemps to play on Liquid Drum Theater or something.

I think it might have been more like 20, and pretty much every song he did in 1 or 2 takes.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:04 PM

I think it took Portnoy about 10 attemps to play on Liquid Drum Theater or something.
Have you heard him try to count it on there? It changes time signature almost every bar. The whole song itself has 19 different time signatures. My favourite of which is the 15/8 passage... with the guitar and keyboard solos.
I think that is the song that shows off their talent best. Easily.

G_Mac07

11-02-2005, 05:05 PM

If I could record, I would do the Metropolis bass solo.

Post 666!

I like your user title better. I used to have the same one. :thumb:

Do you realise that your user title is the binary code for your current post count?

I need to practice more, I can play hardly any DT.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:07 PM

Have you heard him try to count it on there? It changes time signature almost every bar. The whole song itself has 19 different time signatures. My favourite of which is the 15/8 passage... with the guitar and keyboard solos.
I think that is the song that shows off their talent best. Easily.

Haha, it's funny when he is counting along to the 'shrink and grow' section of Fatal Tragedy. 1, 2, 3, 4, Riff...:lol:

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:07 PM

I like your user title better. I used to have the same one. :thumb:

Do you realise that your user title is the binary code for your current post count?

I need to practice more, I can play hardly any DT.
I don't really practise too much anymore. I used to spend alot of time in the bass forum, but now it's full of ego's and elitists. Not a nice atmosphere in there at all.
Haha, it's funny when he is counting along to the 'shrink and grow' section of Fatal Tragedy. 1, 2, 3, 4, Riff...:lol:
Yeah. I like it on Live At Budokan, on the bonus DVD, when he says to the guys, "Can anyone help me with something? Last night, I counted us out of the Beyond This Life solo 3 times." :lol:

GenuineImitation

11-02-2005, 05:07 PM

The rythm for the most part, is not a problem for me. I have difficulty keeping up with the speed during the solos. I just need more practice I guess.

G_Mac07

11-02-2005, 05:08 PM

I don't really practise too much anymore. I used to spend alot of time in the bass forum, but now it's full of ego's and elitists. Not a nice atmosphere in there at all.

Same reason I stay out of guitar. I used to practice both Guitar and Bass quite a bit, but I moved away from my Bass at the beginning of the year, and I had a massive downgrade in Guitar equipment, causing me to lose interest. Things should pick up again in a few weeks though. :D

Roo_bass

11-02-2005, 05:10 PM

I like your user title better. I used to have the same one. :thumb:

Do you realise that your user title is the binary code for your current post count?

:thumb:
Yep, well not anymore. :lol:

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:10 PM

Same reason I stay out of guitar. I used to practice both Guitar and Bass quite a bit, but I moved away from my Bass at the beginning of the year, and I had a massive downgrade in Guitar equipment, causing me to lose interest. Things should pick up again in a few weeks though. :D
Haha, Christmas time? I'm hoping for an Ashdown head to go with my Ashdown cab and replace my shitty Hartke head.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:10 PM

I don't really practise too much anymore. I used to spend alot of time in the bass forum, but now it's full of ego's and elitists. Not a nice atmosphere in there at all.

Yeah. I like it on Live At Budokan, on the bonus DVD, when he says to the guys, "Can anyone help me with something? Last night, I counted us out of the Beyond This Life solo 3 times." :lol:

The only prescription...is more cowbell.:lol:

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:11 PM

Yeah. :lol: And when J.P is singing, and he goes "Did I mention... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!" That's hilarious! :lol:

G_Mac07

11-02-2005, 05:13 PM

:thumb:
Yep, well not anymore.:lol:

I demand that you delete an old post this instant, and start a new account. You were legendary for a moment there. :p

Haha, Christmas time? I'm hoping for an Ashdown head to go with my Ashdown cab and replace my ****ty Hartke head.

:lol: That actually wasn't what I was thinking of. I've never recieved any musical equipment for Christmas/Birthdays. What I meant was that I'll be finished uni for the year, and will be heading home for the holidays.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:13 PM

Yeah. :lol: And when J.P is singing, and he goes "Did I mention... YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH HH!!!!!" That's hilarious! :lol:

I love JR's 'weird' way of playing Run to The Hills. Instead of going like this..*plays air keyboard with one hand*..he goes like this...*play air keyboard with two hands*.:lol:

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:15 PM

I love JR's 'weird' way of playing Run to The Hills. Instead of going like this..*plays air keyboard with one hand*..he goes like this...*play air keyboard with two hands*.:lol:
Haha. The guy is really funny. When him and Jp are rehearsing in the dressing room, to the harmony solo from Metropolis. And he's playing air keyboard and humming. :lol: To top it off, JP goes "You missed a note there."

GenuineImitation

11-02-2005, 05:15 PM

You guys who want Live At The Marquee, I'll AIM it too you if you want.

that would be cool. My AIM is rock15guitarist.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:18 PM

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:18 PM

James's vocals on that far surpass any vocals Charlie has done. I'd like to hear him sing Status Seeker though. Charlie's vocals are good on that.
Hahaha they are such funny guys. My favourite DVD quote has to be from Kevin Moore though, on Live in Tokyo when that Japanese girl is getting their autographs, then she says something to the camera. Then Kev goes "she just said "I don't really like Dream Theater, but I had a pen, so what the ****"".
And the thing with the novelty condoms. I've never laughed at a band so much in my life!

Night Night boys and girls... I must get to bed. School tomorrow. :upset:

Toaster

11-02-2005, 05:20 PM

What are you people talking about?? Where are you seeing all this stuff?

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:21 PM

On the bonus DVD on Live At Budokan and on Live in Tokyo. Sweet Dreams.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:24 PM

James's vocals on that far surpass any vocals Charlie has done. I'd like to hear him sing Status Seeker though. Charlie's vocals are good on that.

I was so close to ordering the When Dream and Day ReUnite official bootleg DVD today, but the Ytse Jam Records site doesn't accept Maestro cards :upset:

They get Charlie back to sing a couple of songs on that.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:25 PM

They re-do the album with Charlie, and play Metropolis and a few other songs from that era.

Roo_bass

11-02-2005, 05:26 PM

Hahaha they are such funny guys. My favourite DVD quote has to be from Kevin Moore though, on Live in Tokyo when that Japanese girl is getting their autographs, then she says something to the camera. Then Kev goes "she just said "I don't really like Dream Theater, but I had a pen, so what the ****"".
:lol: That bit is great. Derek Sherinian was also a very funny character:
'What are you doing today Derek?'
'Making history, and you?'

Toaster

11-02-2005, 05:26 PM

Did you guys hear DT did play one show with Charlie again? They played WDADU in it's entirety, last year I think, with him. I think the show was in New York, I'll check up on that.. but Charlie must have been really old.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:26 PM

They re-do the album with Charlie, and play Metropolis and a few other songs from that era.

James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:27 PM

James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.
That seems pointless... I'm sure you're wrong, but I can't be arsed to argue!

GenuineImitation

11-02-2005, 05:28 PM

I was so close to ordering the When Dream and Day ReUnite official bootleg DVD today, but the Ytse Jam Records site doesn't accept Maestro cards :upset:

They get Charlie back to sing a couple of songs on that.

I have that. They have both Labrie and Charlie doing a duet for Metropolis. They got Derek Shirinian back to also do a duet with Rudess.
He may be on some other songs, but I got it the other day and only watched Metropolis so far.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:29 PM

That seems pointless... I'm sure you're wrong, but I can't be arsed to argue!

Personally I think it was definitely the best thing to do... the worst thing about WDADU for me is Charlie's vocals, so having James sing the whole album is an awesome idea.

and I'll check up to see who's right...

shamed-angel

11-02-2005, 05:29 PM

James sings most of it, they just get Charlie to do one or two.
Charlie does the Encore= 2 songs. You win.
Personally I think it was definitely the best thing to do... the worst thing about WDADU for me is Charlie's vocals, so having James sing the whole album is an awesome idea.
I prefer James, apart from on Status Seeker, I think Charlie's vocals on that are perfect.

They asked Kevin Moore to duet with James on Space-Dye-Vest, but he declined.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:37 PM

Charlie does the Encore= 2 songs. You win.

You should have pretended you were talking about a different DVD, then you would have both one:naughty: .

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 05:48 PM

You should have pretended you were talking about a different DVD, then you would have both one:naughty: .

But no such DVD exists, fool.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 05:53 PM

But no such DVD exists, fool.

Errmmmm.....it could have been a bootleg he made himself...yes, that's right.

"I could replace my whole rig with this" - or could he? Does anyone know what that guitar is on the Budokan DVD?

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 06:02 PM

Errmmmm.....it could have been a bootleg he made himself...yes, that's right.

"I could replace my whole rig with this" - or could he? Does anyone know what that guitar is on the Budokan DVD?

I think it's one of these http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM %253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 06:04 PM

I think it's one of these http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D24770%2526CTID%253D500946%2526VNM %253DLIVE%2526AFLG%253DY%2526LGFL%253DN,00.html

It is that sort of guitar, but not that exact one. The one he uses is a light brown one, in the shape of an Ibenez or something.

nowitzki

11-02-2005, 06:05 PM

That must be the EZ-EG then, there's a link to it on that page.

scenesfromatheater

11-02-2005, 06:06 PM

That must be the EZ-EG then, there's a link to it on that page.

It is that one.

BridgeToSolace

11-02-2005, 10:06 PM

Just wondering, what are Dream Theater's best and heaviest instrumentals?

Any replies are appreciated :)

eighty d

11-02-2005, 10:20 PM

i dunno about heaviest, but i like erotomania the best.

TojesDolan

11-02-2005, 11:29 PM

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but:

Octavarium is the eighth studio album by Dream Theater, it has eight songs and the songs are in the key of Fmin, Gmin, Amin, Bmin, Cmin, Dmin, Emin and Fmin, respectively through the number of the songs.

That's a rather cool thing, if you ask me. Nothing impressive by today's standards (not to mention this is a musicians forums) but it was worth the mention.

nowitzki

11-03-2005, 03:07 AM

Just wondering, what are Dream Theater's best and heaviest instrumentals?

Any replies are appreciated :)

Try these:
Stream of Consciousness
Ytse Jam
The Dance of Eternity

I don't know if this has been mentioned before, but:

Octavarium is the eighth studio album by Dream Theater, it has eight songs and the songs are in the key of Fmin, Gmin, Amin, Bmin, Cmin, Dmin, Emin and Fmin, respectively through the number of the songs.

That's a rather cool thing, if you ask me. Nothing impressive by today's standards (not to mention this is a musicians forums) but it was worth the mention.

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Lord Abortion

11-03-2005, 06:01 AM

If these DVD extras are funnier than Cradle of filth's schlockumentary on Heavy left handed and candid...It will be funny indeed.

nowitzki

11-03-2005, 07:30 AM

Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 10:05 AM

Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.

I would love to stamp on Danni Filth.

Happy

11-03-2005, 10:42 AM

Just seeing Cradle of Filth is pretty funny in general.
I saw them at Download '04. they were rather funny.

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 10:55 AM

I saw them at Download '04. they were rather funny.

Funny?:confused:

Happy

11-03-2005, 11:07 AM

Funny?:confused:
They had people walking around on stilts on stage and the guitarist windmilling looked funny.
Also there was some back-up singer who stood on stage all through the set and only sung for one song.

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 11:13 AM

They had people walking around on stilts on stage and the guitarist windmilling looked funny.
Also there was some back-up singer who stood on stage all through the set and only sung for one song.

Haha, I've got to see that. Got any videos by any chance?

Happy

11-03-2005, 11:13 AM

No, You probably wouldn't find it funny anyway. :(

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 11:26 AM

No, You probably wouldn't find it funny anyway. :(

I don't like COF, I just wanted to see if they're good live.

Happy

11-03-2005, 11:33 AM

Well they're not bad live, they did put on a show with the people on stilts ect. and sounded pretty good.

Lord Abortion

11-03-2005, 12:29 PM

They were excellent live when I saw them, and I'm going to see them again next month...then again...I'm a fanboy:p

The extra in question is basically them incredibly drunk with a video camera on tour, it's brilliant

Aaron

11-03-2005, 04:39 PM

You've listened to the whole of Metropolis Pt. 2: SFAM? Well that's regarded as one of their best albums by most fans, but it is very progressive so won't appeal to all.

no, not all of it.

where's the best place to start listening? (apart from rush :lol: )

TojesDolan

11-03-2005, 05:19 PM

Try these:
Stream of Consciousness
Ytse Jam
The Dance of Eternity

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php
Thanks. I actually wanted a more thorough thing. Thanks man. :)

Lord Abortion

11-03-2005, 05:26 PM

Thanks. I actually wanted a more thorough thing. Thanks man. :)
My ****ing God that's deep!

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 05:29 PM

My ****ing God that's deep!

I don't get it:confused: .

EDIT: ahhh yes, you were talking about the 8V link.

nowitzki

11-03-2005, 05:29 PM

Hahaha, it's quite an interesting article, especially all the references in the title track.

Oh yeah, there's one of the references to their influences during Full Circle that the article didn't pick up on - "Sailing on the Seven Seize" is ALSO a reference to Sailing the Seas Of Cheese by Primus. Not really that important, but I noticed they showed the album cover during that part of the song when they played it live. Not that important, but I thought it was worth a mention :D

Lord Abortion

11-03-2005, 05:30 PM

I don't get it:confused: .
The Octavarium explanation...

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 05:33 PM

...the wonders of editing...

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 05:38 PM

'MP says "Root"
"Take all of me" (from 3:03 in The Root Of All Evil) plays in the background

MP says "Second"
"Don't let the day go by" (from 4:21 in The Answers lies Within) plays in the background

MP says "Third"
A clip from These Walls plays in the background

MP says "Fourth"
"I walk beside you" (from 1:06 in I Walk Beside You) plays in the background

MP says "Fifth"
"Hysteria" (from 3:55 in Panic Attack) plays in the background

MP says "Sixth"
"What would you say" (from 3:03 in Never Enough) plays in the background

MP says "Seventh"
A clip from Sacrificed Sons plays in the background

MP says "Octave"
"Side effects appear" (from 11:52 in Octavarium part II) plays in the background'

Does any one else not get all that?

Toaster

11-03-2005, 05:41 PM

Does any one else not get all that?

During those parts of the songs, those clips from other songs play in the background. Portnoy says those intervals as the clips play.

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 05:43 PM

Can you explain an example. I just don't understand where abouts in the song and what I'm listening for????

nowitzki

11-03-2005, 05:54 PM

At 18.54 where it sounds like he's belching, that's him saying "third". They're all in that section of the song, you just have to listen out carelfully.

scenesfromatheater

11-03-2005, 05:57 PM

At 18.54 where it sounds like he's belching, that's him saying "third". They're all in that section of the song, you just have to listen out carelfully.

I can hear the Never Enough bit, I'm destined to find them all now.

Deth

11-03-2005, 09:04 PM

I can hear the Never Enough bit, I'm destined to find them all now.
They've got you under their spell!

Guess there's nothing else to do in Derby :p.

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 10:30 AM

They've got you under their spell!

Guess there's nothing else to do in Derby :p.

Yes there is...errrmmm... you can go...errr... to town. And you can see all the chavs.

Deth

11-04-2005, 10:30 AM

Derby is a running joke in our family.

NP: Endless Sacrifice

Happy

11-04-2005, 10:33 AM

Time to find all the hidden crap in Octavarium. It's like a side quest in a game.

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 10:55 AM

Derby is a running joke in our family.

NP: Endless Sacrifice

Why is this?

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 11:07 AM

Derby is a running joke in our family.

NP: Endless Sacrifice

Derby's not that bad, I mean we have a metal festival here every year (Bloodstock). This year it had Hammerfall, Within Temptation, Cathedral etc. and previous years there's been CoB, Nightwish, Dragonforce.
Do you get that where you live, eh?

Plus it's really close to Donnington where Download festival is, and close to Nottingham which has Rock City, one of the UK's best live music venues.

shamed-angel

11-04-2005, 11:09 AM

But it is a bit of a shithole, wouldn't you say? It's a part of Britain, nowadays Britain is full of chav scum and wankers.

N.P: Dream Theater- A Vision.

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 11:11 AM

True, but there's places a lot worse than here.

shamed-angel

11-04-2005, 11:13 AM

True, but there's places a lot worse than here.
Like South Wales... :upset:

I have to defend DT in the "Battle of the Bands"

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 11:36 AM

Like South Wales... :upset:

Nottingham, Liecester and Derby are all covered with chav scum. I can't go down a street in town without being called a "fukin' greebo" or being asked "got twenny p mate?".

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 12:00 PM

Nottingham, Liecester and Derby are all covered with chav scum. I can't go down a street in town without being called a "fukin' greebo" or being asked "got twenny p mate?".

That's the same in most places in the country though. They're all skinny little losers. I never get much trouble with them, being 6'4" and about 14 stone probably helps though.

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 12:26 PM

That's the same in most places in the country though. They're all skinny little losers. I never get much trouble with them, being 6'4" and about 14 stone probably helps though.

Yeh, I'm rather macho myself:naughty: . But if there's quite a few of them, it's a tough job I imagine.:cool:

shamed-angel

11-04-2005, 12:37 PM

I can imagine they'd all be blown away by the sound of Dream Theater.

"Aaaargh...*covers ears* Music. With. Talent!!"

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 12:38 PM

Derby's not that bad, I mean we have a metal festival here every year (Bloodstock). This year it had Hammerfall, Within Temptation, Cathedral etc. and previous years there's been CoB, Nightwish, Dragonforce.
Do you get that where you live, eh?

Plus it's really close to Donnington where Download festival is, and close to Nottingham which has Rock City, one of the UK's best live music venues.
Bugger, I would like to live there, probably.

Rock city looks a great venue from what I have seen in live DVD's (Cradle of filth recorded the DVD I mentioned a couple of pages back there...)

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 12:45 PM

Bugger, I would like to live there, probably.

Rock city looks a great venue from what I have seen in live DVD's (Cradle of filth recorded the DVD I mentioned a couple of pages back there...)

Yeah, it's great, a lot of awesome tours go there, I'm going to see Opeth there in a few weeks :D .

Not trying to rub it in or anything...

Deth

11-04-2005, 12:46 PM

Derby isn't very good, don't listen to them.

Still, I would rather be there than South Florida :(.

Six Foot Revolver

11-04-2005, 12:53 PM

Portsmouth (sp?) is probably the worst place in Britian for chavs.

shamed-angel

11-04-2005, 12:56 PM

South Wales is. Easily. That's where the ****er's were invented. But around here we call them "valley scum". And the people who listen to rock are "Goths". It's either Chavs where I live, or really obnoxious, arrogant, complete cunt-headed Jocks.

Six Foot Revolver

11-04-2005, 12:57 PM

I got called a goth once in Darlington while wearing a red t-shirt :cool:. I love it when chavs shout **** at you.

Chav: Get ya hair cut!
Me: Cheers, thanks for the advice
Chav: Uhhhh, fockin bogger!

Deth

11-04-2005, 12:57 PM

My towns just full of Hispanic people.

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 12:58 PM

Portsmouth (sp?) is probably the worst place in Britian for chavs.
Ever been to Gateshead Jake?

Six Foot Revolver

11-04-2005, 01:00 PM

No, I don't believe I have.

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 01:03 PM

No, I don't believe I have.
Chav central man, but up here it's "charvers"

****ing loads of them.

shamed-angel

11-04-2005, 01:54 PM

Can we talk about Dream Theater? Please :upset:

Deth

11-04-2005, 01:56 PM

You should a contest to see how many chav heads you can explode at a time while blasting DT.

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 03:08 PM

You should a contest to see how many chav heads you can explode at a time while blasting DT.

10 last time I tried.

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 03:12 PM

What is a "chav"? From what I have gathered, they dont seem to be liked very much.

temporary

11-04-2005, 03:35 PM

What is a "chav"? From what I have gathered, they dont seem to be liked very much.

I think its some English word for jock. Not sure, though.

Six Foot Revolver

11-04-2005, 03:38 PM

http://tinypic.com/fbm4xj.gif

Pretty much sums up a chav.

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 03:42 PM

http://tinypic.com/fbm4xj.gif

Pretty much sums up a chav.

So I guess its the UK's version of a "Wigger" (Wigger = http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/wigger-15344.jpg )

temporary

11-04-2005, 03:43 PM

http://tinypic.com/fbm4xj.gif

Pretty much sums up a chav.

Oh, I see...

Sadbutrue16

11-04-2005, 04:18 PM

Hey i dont know this band very much but i heard there great so can someone tell me like there best 10 songs so i can download them and see what i think?

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 04:21 PM

Hey i dont know this band very much but i heard there great so can someone tell me like there best 10 songs so i can download them and see what i think?

Just a few of my current favorites:

Stream of Consciousness
the glass prison
In the name of god
under a glass moon
metropoli part 1
caught in a web
space dye vest
ocatavarium
endless sacrifice
pull me under
lie
the mirror

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 04:25 PM

Take The Time
The Glass Prison
Metropolis Pt. 1
Fatal Tragedy
Home
The Spirit Carries On
In The Name Of God
Scarred
Learning To Live
Stream of Consciousness

There's 10 songs for you, but there's plenty more awesome material, I'm sure they'll be something you enjoy in there, they're such a varied band.

Sadbutrue16

11-04-2005, 04:36 PM

heh been listening to them.. Pretty crazy how one song is like heavy *** riffs and crazy solos...the nthe next song is like slow and accoustic sounds notrhing like the first one. Pretty sweet band though.

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 04:42 PM

I would also reccommend;

Surrounded
as I am
endless sacrifice
misunderstood
this dying soul
These walls
I walk beside you
under a glass moon (new location, see?)

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 04:42 PM

Sadbutrue16

11-04-2005, 04:47 PM

so far i have lsitened to stream of consiousness,hollow years,glass prison, and fatal tragedy.

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 04:57 PM

so far i have lsitened to stream of consiousness,hollow years,glass prison, and fatal tragedy.

Cool. Which one is your favorite so far?

Shattered_Future

11-04-2005, 05:12 PM

Download Home and A Change Of Seasons as well. 2 great songs. :thumb:

GenuineImitation

11-04-2005, 05:20 PM

Download Home and A Change Of Seasons as well. 2 great songs. :thumb:

I cant believe I forgot A change of seasons. That was the first DT song I have ever heard.

temporary

11-04-2005, 06:12 PM

Hey i dont know this band very much but i heard there great so can someone tell me like there best 10 songs so i can download them and see what i think?

Heres my top ten list:

1. Learning To Live
2. A Change of Seasons
3. Metropolis
4. Space Dye Vest
5. The Glass Prison
6. Under A Glass Moon
7. Endless Sacrifice
8. Eruptomania
9. Wait For Sleep
10. Dance of Eternity

classicrockman

11-04-2005, 06:18 PM

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 07:02 PM

Beyond this life is amazing...

temporary

11-04-2005, 07:07 PM

This list will suprise most DT hardcore fans, but here it is:

1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Pull Me Under
3. As I Am
4. Erotomania
5. The Root of All Evil
6. Take the Time
7. The Glass Prison
8. Never Enough
9. In the Name of God
10. Beyond this Life

Thats actually a pretty good list, In The Name of God and Beyond This Life are to of my favorite newer DT songs.

Lord Abortion

11-04-2005, 07:11 PM

James' vocals in BTL are fantastic.
He is the best part of SFAM in alot of places.

classicrockman

11-04-2005, 07:40 PM

Thats actually a pretty good list, In The Name of God and Beyond This Life are to of my favorite newer DT songs.
Thank you.

I thought some people wouldn't like it because it has a few songs off of 'Octavarium' on there. Not too many hardcore DT fans liked that album. I think it's great. :thumb:

temporary

11-04-2005, 07:41 PM

James' vocals in BTL are fantastic.
He is the best part of SFAM in alot of places.

Overall, I think LaBrie is equally as great as the rest of the band. Sure he doesn't have their crazy instrumental talent, but he's voice is amazing.

classicrockman

11-04-2005, 07:45 PM

Overall, I think LaBrie is equally as great as the rest of the band. Sure he doesn't have their crazy instrumental talent, but he's voice is amazing.
James is a great singer. I don't get why people rip on him. Y'know? They say stuff like "Dream Theater is awesome, but James totally brings the band down for me." What the hell?

temporary

11-04-2005, 08:05 PM

James is a great singer. I don't get why people rip on him. Y'know? They say stuff like "Dream Theater is awesome, but James totally brings the band down for me." What the hell?

I know, I nobody can recreat his high cauterwails.

scenesfromatheater

11-04-2005, 08:17 PM

This list will suprise most DT hardcore fans, but here it is:

1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Pull Me Under
3. As I Am
4. Erotomania
5. The Root of All Evil
6. Take the Time
7. The Glass Prison
8. Never Enough
9. In the Name of God
10. Beyond this Life

They're the only ones I think are worthy of being in the top 10.

classicrockman

11-04-2005, 08:44 PM

They're the only ones I think are worthy of being in the top 10.
Eevryone's got an opinion. :thumb:

(nice avatar).

nowitzki

11-04-2005, 08:45 PM

Thank you.

I thought some people wouldn't like it because it has a few songs off of 'Octavarium' on there. Not too many hardcore DT fans liked that album. I think it's great. :thumb:

Octavarium was good, but the title track overshadows the rest of the album completely.

MAthiAS

11-04-2005, 09:28 PM

DT Top 10:

1) Take The Time
2) Wait for Sleep/ Learning to Live
3) Scarred
4) Blind Faith
5) Space Dye Vest
6) A Change of Seasons
7) Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
8) Endless Sacrifice
9) Beyond This Life
10) The Silent Man

Lord of Sword

11-04-2005, 09:41 PM

I think the problem people have with James is just his voice, not him as a singer. I can sort of see why some people don't like his voice/accent, but he is a good singer nevertheless.

and I'll join in with the list making:
1) Pull Me Under
2) The Mirror
3) Space Dye Vest
4) Disappear
5) a Change of Seasons
6) Learning to Live
7) Blind Faith
8) Under a Glass Moon
9) Home
10) Metropolis Pt i

pizzapie88

11-04-2005, 10:34 PM

My list (in no particular order):

1) The Spirit Carries On
2) Sacrred
3) Learning to Live
4) The Killing Hand
5) Trail of Tears
6) The Glass Prison
7) This Dying Soul
8) Octavarium
9) The Dance of Eternity
10) Lifting Shadows of a Dream

red barchetta

11-05-2005, 06:24 AM

my top 10:

1. Blind Faith
2. Hell's Kitchen
3. Space dye vest
4. Dissapear
5. Overture 1928/Strange deja vu
6. The great debate
7. Erotomania/Voices/The silent man
8. Learning to live
9. Take the time
10. Scarred

stoned_rat

11-05-2005, 06:43 AM

nowitzki

11-05-2005, 06:58 AM

too hard to make a top 10, also i only have: images and words, scenes from a memory and train of thought.
however, it is very interesting to note how very different everyone's lists are, yet they all seem to contain some images and words material, often near the top of the list, it truly is an orgasmic album, absolutely perfect in every way as far as im concerned.
the only other album that believe to have such perfection(song order, song structure, contrasts; ie. ups and downs, and melody) is Blood Sugar Sex Magik by RHCP.

I haven't listened to RHCP in ages, but they used to be one of my favourite bands, and BSSM is an amazing album.
But for me personally the only album I can say comes close to I&W is.... Scenes From A Memory. I would have to say overall they are my 2 favourite albums, they just display a range of emotions and moods like no others, and the songs are just flawless.

scenesfromatheater

11-05-2005, 07:29 AM

1. Metropolis pt. 1
2. Learning to Live
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. A Change of Seasons
5. Octavarium
6. Take The Time
7. The Glass Prison
8. Beyond This Life
9. This Dying Soul
10. Overture 1928 / Strange Deja Vu

Lord Abortion

11-05-2005, 08:34 AM

I'll give an actual top 10 this time, mine was just an addition to the previous post.

1. Surrounded
2. Space dye vest
3. Beyond this life
4. Metropolis pt.1
5. Endless sacrifice
6.In the name of God
7. Another day
8. The answer lies within
9. This Dying soul
10.Misunderstood

Biancazzurri

11-05-2005, 08:57 AM

what do you say about song Peruvian Sky? I think its amasing and would include it in top ten but i am sure fo 100% that there are 10 songs that are better than this.

scenesfromatheater

11-05-2005, 09:05 AM

what do you say about song Peruvian Sky? I think its amasing and would include it in top ten but i am sure fo 100% that there are 10 songs that are better than this.

Peruvian Skies is an class DT song, maybe in my top 20 though, I think it's the best song on FII and they did it awsome live.

Metal_head45

11-05-2005, 06:36 PM

Thats actually a pretty good list, In The Name of God and Beyond This Life are to of my favorite newer DT songs.

I was shocked when i read somewhere that In The Name of God was the worst song on ToT. IMO, its the best song on the album along with stream of consciousness.

Metal_head45

11-05-2005, 06:41 PM

Is it just me, or is Myung very underated, atleast in this thread (mind you, i couldnt be stuffed reading all 149 pages so i just skipped to the last after reading the first few so i may have missed something about this). In pizzapie88's avatar you can see him at work. He is an amazing bass player. He was voted the best metal bass player on these forums. Please tell me i'm not the only one with this opinion.

scenesfromatheater

11-05-2005, 06:42 PM

I was shocked when i read somewhere that In The Name of God was the worst song on ToT. IMO, its the best song on the album along with stream of consciousness.

As I Am and Honor Thy Father are my least favourite tracks on TOT. Even thought they are both amazing anyway. The bass intro for As I Am is classic stuff.:cool:

scenesfromatheater

11-05-2005, 06:45 PM

nowitzki

11-05-2005, 07:09 PM

I was shocked when i read somewhere that In The Name of God was the worst song on ToT. IMO, its the best song on the album along with stream of consciousness.

They are also my two favourite songs, where did you read this?

Is it just me, or is Myung very underated, atleast in this thread (mind you, i couldnt be stuffed reading all 149 pages so i just skipped to the last after reading the first few so i may have missed something about this). In pizzapie88's avatar you can see him at work. He is an amazing bass player. He was voted the best metal bass player on these forums. Please tell me i'm not the only one with this opinion.

What makes you think he's under rated? He was voted the number one bassist in a top 100 poll this forum did a few months ago. And people in this thread seem to regard him as one of the most important factors in DT and an excellent songwriter.

Metal_head45

11-05-2005, 07:53 PM

They are also my two favourite songs, where did you read this?

What makes you think he's under rated? He was voted the number one bassist in a top 100 poll this forum did a few months ago. And people in this thread seem to regard him as one of the most important factors in DT and an excellent songwriter.

I actually can't remember where i read it. It also could have been one of my friends that said it. I'm not to sure, but i do remember it being said in some form. As for Myung, early on in this thread, everyone was talking about petrucci and portnoy and i was thinking, what about myung. Its good to hear that people do regard him as important in DT like i do! :thumb:

nowitzki

11-05-2005, 07:57 PM

Right, I can't blame you for not reading all 149 pages, but yeah, JM is much appreciated (my favourite bassist).

And welcome to the thread :wave:

Darkness

11-05-2005, 08:27 PM

1. In The Name Of God
2. Space Dye-Vest
3. The Mirror
4. As I Am
5. Misunderstood
6. The Glass Prison
7. Lie
8. Endless Sacrifice
9. The Great Debate
10. Voices

For me...

IbanezSamurai

11-05-2005, 09:19 PM

for those of you who havent seen any dream theater music videos, I found a winamp page filled with them http://www.winamp.com/videos/artist.php?id=17134#tracks

GenuineImitation

11-05-2005, 09:46 PM

They ruined Lie and Pull Me Under by shortening the songs. They arent even that long compared to their other songs. Did they shorten they other songs. I didnt get to watch them yet.

temporary

11-05-2005, 10:17 PM

IbanezSamurai

11-05-2005, 10:41 PM

They ruined Lie and Pull Me Under by shortening the songs. They arent even that long compared to their other songs. Did they shorten they other songs. I didnt get to watch them yet.

Yeah, same thing with Take The Time. All hail to the power of MTV.

BlindWriting

11-05-2005, 10:53 PM

My top ten:

1. The Glass Prison
2. Space Dye Vest
3. This Dying Soul
4. Home
5. Voices
6. Endless Sacrifice
7. Overture 1928 / Strange Deja Vu
8. Lie
9. Pull Me Under
10. Panic Attack

Metal_head45

11-06-2005, 05:34 AM

Right, I can't blame you for not reading all 149 pages, but yeah, JM is much appreciated (my favourite bassist).

And welcome to the thread :wave:

Lol thanks! Yeah I'm with you on that one. I love his sig Yamaha six string. I saw a similar five string (body, neck etc) that tickled my fancy. I love to be able to afford his actual sig bass, but unfortunatly im 16 and only work casually at a super market lol. His bass would be like a years wage for me :lol:

Sad But True

11-06-2005, 06:16 AM

Could someone tell me what the time sig of YTSE Jam is please? Google/search isn't turning up anything. Thanking you.

Six Foot Revolver

11-06-2005, 06:18 AM

I'm sorry to be off topic but that was the greatest white ninja ever.

Sad But True

11-06-2005, 06:29 AM

I'm sorry to be off topic but that was the greatest white ninja ever.
I don't know, I liked the one with the lamp.

http://www.whiteninjacomics.com/comics/magiclamp.shtml

EDIT: All time top 10

1: Glass Prison
2: Misunderstood (such a cool song, I'm thinking of covering it with my band)
3: As I Am
4: Through Her Eyes
5: Home
6: About To Crash (Reprise)
7: YTSE Jam
8: Octavarium
9: Under A Glass Moon
10: In the Name Of God

Distorted Vision

11-06-2005, 07:01 AM

Hard to come up with a top ten, but this is what it probably would be:

A Change Of Seasons
Trial Of Tears
Hell's Kitchen
Octavarium
Learning To Live
About To Crash
Metropolis Pt 1
Overture 1928
Lie
Hollow Years

But it's strange, my two favourite DT albums (Awake and SDOIT) have hardly any in that list, because the songs work much better as part of the album.

Triangle

11-06-2005, 07:40 AM

Learning To Live
A Change Of Seasons
Scarred
Lines In The Sand
The Glass Prison

They're my top5. I wouldn't be able to do a 10.

Sad But True

11-06-2005, 07:48 AM

Could someone tell me what the time sig of YTSE Jam is please? Google/search isn't turning up anything. Thanking you.
Any help peoples?

Happy

11-06-2005, 08:05 AM

Any help peoples?
It has changing time sigs according to powertabs, 4/4, 3/4, 2/4, 7/8, 5/4, 5/8 are all used. Dunno if that helps.

GenuineImitation

11-06-2005, 08:06 AM

Yeah, same thing with Take The Time. All hail to the power of MTV.

Did MTV actually play the songs?

Sad But True

11-06-2005, 08:14 AM

It has changing time sigs according to powertabs, 4/4, 3/4, 2/4, 7/8, 5/4, 5/8 are all used. Dunno if that helps.
cool thsnks, do you know which the main riff is?

/doesnt have powertab

Happy

11-06-2005, 08:18 AM

the main riff is 4/4 for 1 bar, 3/4 for 1 bar, 2/4 for 1 bar and 7/8 for one bar.

nowitzki

11-06-2005, 08:24 AM

cool thsnks, do you know which the main riff is?

/doesnt have powertab

Download Guitar Pro, and yeah, Happy is right about the main riff.

Triangle

11-06-2005, 08:30 AM

the main riff is 4/4 for 1 bar, 3/4 for 1 bar, 2/4 for 1 bar and 7/8 for one bar.
Ah DT and their crazy time sig changes.

Sad But True

11-06-2005, 08:58 AM

Thanks guys

*attempts to transcribe*

scenesfromatheater

11-06-2005, 10:39 AM

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10312930&posted=1#post10312930

Like my picture?

GenuineImitation

11-06-2005, 10:46 AM

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10312930&posted=1#post10312930

Like my picture?

Thats pretty good. (I lack drawing abilities :upset: )

the2stranger

11-06-2005, 10:53 AM

I really like John Better with long hair, he looks like a soccer dad now :(

but he can play guitar damn good for a soccerdad though :p

GenuineImitation

11-06-2005, 11:58 AM

What was everyones first DT cd. Mine was ToT.

the2stranger

11-06-2005, 12:05 PM

mine was Images & Words :cool:

you double posted by the way :confused:
browser problems?

GenuineImitation

11-06-2005, 12:07 PM

mine was Images & Words :cool:

you double posted by the way :confused:
browser problems?

Yeah, MX frooze for a second (at least for me). I deleted it, so its not a problem.

RiceMonster

11-06-2005, 12:14 PM

What was everyones first DT cd. Mine was ToT.
Scenes From a Memory. Still my favorite too.

Happy

11-06-2005, 12:16 PM

My first album was Images & Words :cool:

Deconstruction

11-06-2005, 12:18 PM

"Dream Theater is known for its high-energy concert performances" Lawl

nowitzki

11-06-2005, 12:26 PM

"Dream Theater is known for its high-energy concert performances" Lawl

Wha? :confused:

GenuineImitation

11-06-2005, 12:43 PM

"Dream Theater is known for its high-energy concert performances" Lawl

Great input.:thumb:

Lord Abortion

11-06-2005, 12:50 PM

My first DT album was Images and words... had never heard DT before and bought it on a whim...It completely blew me away...

BlindWriting

11-06-2005, 01:11 PM

First was ToT. Then Awake. I'm planning on picking up SDOIT next.

Deconstruction

11-06-2005, 01:13 PM

Mine was I&W. A friend let me listen to it one nightand I fell in love with it.

the2stranger

11-06-2005, 01:16 PM

I had ACOS on my pc for years.
but not untill my ex GF mentioned them, I started lieking them like crazy.

Lord of Sword

11-06-2005, 01:30 PM

i found a couple of clips on progarchives.com, and decided to get the album everyone says is their best - I&W. considering my favourite band at the time was Maiden and i only listened to metal, it took a while to get into, especially with the keyboards and as it's one of their most progressive records. but now it's probably my favourite next to awake.

Happy

11-06-2005, 01:35 PM

My first DT album was Images and words... had never heard DT before and bought it on a whim...It completely blew me away...
haha, me too.

nowitzki

11-06-2005, 02:16 PM

I had ACOS on my pc for years.
but not untill my ex GF mentioned them, I started lieking them like crazy.

Your ex-GF is a DT fan? Cool. Hardly any girls seem to like DT.

Darkness

11-06-2005, 02:32 PM

My first was Train Of Thought, which I really liked. Then 6 Degrees, which I loved the first cd, but the second kinda sucked... then Awake, which is my favorite. :)

IbanezSamurai

11-06-2005, 03:05 PM

I starting to really like falling into infinity. I dont understand why people claim it to be their worst record.

nowitzki

11-06-2005, 03:34 PM

I starting to really like falling into infinity. I dont understand why people claim it to be their worst record.

It's not that bad, I think it's a good album. But it's definitely their worst IMO (except possibly WDADU).

Deconstruction

11-06-2005, 03:38 PM

It's not that bad, I think it's a good album. But it's definitely their worst IMO (except possibly WDADU).
WDADU is good except the singing...gah.

Happy

11-06-2005, 03:44 PM

WDADU is good except the singing...gah.
I like the singing.
/Is a freak

IvortheEngineDriver

11-06-2005, 03:45 PM

My first album was ToT
Then IaW, Awake, 6DOIT, SFAM

To me, the best is still ToT and IaW...nothing can top those albums

scenesfromatheater

11-06-2005, 04:14 PM

The first thing I heard was ACOS, I saw the video to it from LSFNY. I loved the song cause it had the cool Simpsons theme on the video, and then the little keyboard solo...so good.:lol:

scenesfromatheater

11-06-2005, 04:15 PM

My first album was ToT
Then IaW, Awake, 6DOIT, SFAM

To me, the best is still ToT and IaW...nothing can top those albums

SFAM?:naughty:

classicrockman

11-06-2005, 04:41 PM

First DT album for me was 'Octavarium'...which is my favorite. And my second was 'Images & Words'...which is my second favorite.

IbanezSamurai

11-06-2005, 07:56 PM

I've heard that there is a picture of MP in the Disney World's Epcot.

Apocalyptic Raids

11-06-2005, 08:10 PM

My first DT album was Images and words... had never heard DT before and bought it on a whim...It completely blew me away...
Same here. Although I had heard the Glass Prison before.

The difference is I don't really like it :p

I do like Pull Me Under and Metropolis though.

IbanezSamurai

11-06-2005, 08:29 PM

Same here. Although I had heard the Glass Prison before.

The difference is I don't really like it :p

I do like Pull Me Under and Metropolis though.

These are actually 2 of my fav I&W tracks.

Metal_head45

11-07-2005, 03:15 AM

My first album was TOT. I then got 6DoIT and IaW and Awake.

Lord Abortion

11-07-2005, 07:26 AM

I like surrounded the best On I&W....

OK...I just like the intro and the end with JLB's voice being as emotional as I have ever heard it.

Deth

11-07-2005, 07:28 AM

My first DT album was Awake. It was cool because my bass teacher gave me the album so I could learn 6:00 and Scarred. It didn't click with me right away, but I soon was able to see their brillance.

Lord Abortion

11-07-2005, 07:38 AM

The easiest way to get me into a band is to give me a song of theirs with a huge catchy chorus, and I'll go from there...

So pull me under was fantastic for that...

IvortheEngineDriver

11-07-2005, 08:51 AM

I like surrounded the best On I&W....

OK...I just like the intro and the end with JLB's voice being as emotional as I have ever heard it.
I like the keyboard part when the drums kick in and I like the line: "It's been a long long time/he's had a while to think it over/in the end he only sees the change: Light to dark, dark to light, light to dark, dark to light"

haha, awesome :)

ThunderBass

11-07-2005, 08:52 AM

My first was SFAM, then i picked up Awake, and though i didnt really strike me at first, its really growing on me... I still feel SFAM is better though IMO...

im hoping to pick up I&W and 6DOIT soon however...

Lord Abortion

11-07-2005, 08:54 AM

It's the "tonight I'll still be lying here, surrounded...in all..the light."
bit that's just beautiful to me.

nowitzki

11-07-2005, 10:24 AM

Listen to the intro of Father to Son by Queen... sound familiar?
(I reaslise a lot of you won't have the song but it sounds just like the intro to Surrounded)

scenesfromatheater

11-07-2005, 10:25 AM

:D Awake is starting to grow on me now. I love every song on the album and I'm listening to it all the time (even during lessons at school...yes, I am a badass:naughty: ). I think the Silent Man is pretty cheezy though:lol: .

nowitzki

11-07-2005, 10:27 AM

I think the Silent Man is pretty cheezy though:lol: .

I agree with you there, never been too sure about that song.

Happy

11-07-2005, 10:31 AM

I'm considering The Silent Man for my GCSE piece. it's bound to get me a better grade than those doing Wake me up When September ends and Californication.

scenesfromatheater

11-07-2005, 10:35 AM

it's bound to get me a better grade than those doing Wake me up When September ends and Californication.

:angry: Why, were you going to do them songs???