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scenesfromatheater
10-27-2005, 03:58 PM
Trevor Forever! Classic:lol: You've got to keep them coming.

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 04:37 PM
I agree. I worked out that for two Dream Theater gigs I've travelled close to 1500 miles (this is including return journeys, so I've went close to 750 to get there and close to 750 to get home). It's totally worth it for Dream Theater though.
Whereabouts are you from?? I'm in South Wales.

scenesfromatheater
10-27-2005, 04:40 PM
Whereabouts are you from?? I'm in South Wales.

Edinborough, it says in his profile :thumb:

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 04:41 PM
Fair enough. Sorry. I'm not that logical! :p

scenesfromatheater
10-27-2005, 04:47 PM
Its Ok, not everyone's as great as me:naughty: .

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 04:52 PM
Everyone bar the lepers and the disabled...:p

Deconstruction
10-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Anyone have the Majesty demo?

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 05:09 PM
Yeh, I bought it off YTSE Jam.com It's alright, the first demo is better though. the Berkley Demos. They sound so much like Rush. And They cover YYz on it as well.

Jred250
10-27-2005, 05:09 PM
I have e-mailed the following questions for you it will be a few days untill I get a reply probably but I will keep you posted.

I know Beatallica are coming to the U.K next year, I am not sure if Dream Theater are with them... Its a possibillity...

Any Ideas Stark Effect?

when are DT going to do a proper tour of the UK?

Mike, will you please, if not for yourself then for me, do another Transatlantic album?
Can you put my name on it?Please?

Ask if they plan to do another concept album.

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 05:10 PM
I meant can you put my name on the question. Not can you put my name on the album.
:lol:

Jred250
10-27-2005, 05:12 PM
I meant can you put my name on the question. Not can you put my name on the album.
:lol:

lol, It would be funny if he put your name on the album lol... Yes, I did modify it to say you name :thumb:

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 05:15 PM
What did you put my name as? Did you get it off my profile?

Happy
10-27-2005, 05:42 PM
I know Beatallica are coming to the U.K next year, I am not sure if Dream Theater are with them... Its a possibillity...
.
That would make for a great gig.

GenuineImitation
10-27-2005, 05:43 PM
I meant can you put my name on the question. Not can you put my name on the album.
:lol:


Think about how cool that would be.

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 06:07 PM
Kai: The new album by Transatlantic. I doubt there's any chance of Neal Morse re-joinging though :upset:
I hope Daniel Gildenlow is a regular fixture and has a place in the band on the new album.

Toaster
10-27-2005, 07:18 PM
Hey, does everyone here already know about all the nuggets in Octavarium? I always knew there were some, but I've recently discovered that the album is loaded with them, no exaggeration.

shamed-angel
10-27-2005, 07:25 PM
Yeh, like the intervals in the 'Intervals' section of the title-track?

Toaster
10-27-2005, 07:48 PM
Well check this one out..

Listen to track 1. The key is F. Then at the beginning of track two very carefully.. you will hear a ringing tone that is the note f#..the black note above f. The actual song is in G, and at the very end, crank the volume.. you will hear the last note rising slowly.. and it hits G#!!! The next song is in A, and the end of that is in the key of, you guessed it, A#. This goes on for the whole album.. until, the last song, Octavarium, is in the key of F again!!

The whole idea is that the album is in one constant circle, it forms one long "octave".. fitting, considering the album title. There are tons more in the booklet, ask if you're interested.

Happy
10-27-2005, 07:50 PM
Wow you've confused me, but if that's true then it's pretty neat.

MAthiAS
10-27-2005, 08:11 PM
Well check this one out..

Listen to track 1. The key is F. Then at the beginning of track two very carefully.. you will hear a ringing tone that is the note f#..the black note above f. The actual song is in G, and at the very end, crank the volume.. you will hear the last note rising slowly.. and it hits G#!!! The next song is in A, and the end of that is in the key of, you guessed it, A#. This goes on for the whole album.. until, the last song, Octavarium, is in the key of F again!!

The whole idea is that the album is in one constant circle, it forms one long "octave".. fitting, considering the album title. There are tons more in the booklet, ask if you're interested.
If it was a good album I'd care.

Toaster
10-27-2005, 08:14 PM
I'll make it more straightforward.. Look on a keyboard. There are 8 white notes, and 5 black notes from F to F. So in total, 13 semitones from F to F, including both Fs.

Well, there are eight tracks.. and... you know the in between tracks, with the "-" sign in front of the running time?? There are five of those in total!!!!

I really wish I could go into more detail, but alas I have to go. I'll get back to this topic tomorrow.

Happy
10-27-2005, 08:16 PM
I'll make it more straightforward.. Look on a keyboard. There are 8 white notes, and 5 black notes from F to F. So in total, 13 semitones from F to F, including both Fs.

Well, there are eight tracks.. and... you know the in between tracks, with the "-" sign in front of the running time?? There are five of those in total!!!!

I really wish I could go into more detail, but alas I have to go. I'll get back to this topic tomorrow.
Yeah I know about music theory and stuff but you're post confused me so I had to read it a few times :P

Killtacular
10-27-2005, 08:22 PM
I've realized today that I'd previously vastly underrated Scenes from a Memory.

Happy
10-27-2005, 08:25 PM
Anyone know where I can get Majesty's album/demo or whatever it was? I heard them play a song from it live and thought it was awesome.

Tails
10-27-2005, 08:44 PM
Anyone know where I can get Majesty's album/demo or whatever it was? I heard them play a song from it live and thought it was awesome.

Off of YtseJam Records
http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=11

All of DT's official Bootlegs are released there. I plan on picking up WDADRU from there eventually.

Happy
10-27-2005, 08:49 PM
Off of YtseJam Records
http://www.ytsejamrecords.com/ProductCart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=11

All of DT's official Bootlegs are released there. I plan on picking up WDADRU from there eventually.
Neat, thanks.

shamed-angel
10-28-2005, 05:25 AM
I got all of those, spent every penny in my bank acount on DT merch one day... I have every album, and decided to buy all those and vynil copies of WDADU and I&W.

nowitzki
10-28-2005, 06:21 AM
Hey, does everyone here already know about all the nuggets in Octavarium? I always knew there were some, but I've recently discovered that the album is loaded with them, no exaggeration.


You're correct it is absolutely jam packed with them, check out this site: http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Also does everyone know about the nugget in In The Name Of God?
Starting at 5:50, JR plays "EAT MY *** AND BALLS" in morse code! No joke!

shamed-angel
10-28-2005, 06:28 AM
I know. I'm a member on DTFAQ.com and we spent about 6 months trying to figure out what the nugget what after M.P told us there was one on the song.

Aberrationbass
10-28-2005, 07:19 AM
i sooo saw dream theater the other day
best gig of my life!

red barchetta
10-28-2005, 07:24 AM
Well check this one out..

Listen to track 1. The key is F. Then at the beginning of track two very carefully.. you will hear a ringing tone that is the note f#..the black note above f. The actual song is in G, and at the very end, crank the volume.. you will hear the last note rising slowly.. and it hits G#!!! The next song is in A, and the end of that is in the key of, you guessed it, A#. This goes on for the whole album.. until, the last song, Octavarium, is in the key of F again!!

The whole idea is that the album is in one constant circle, it forms one long "octave".. fitting, considering the album title. There are tons more in the booklet, ask if you're interested.
meh, i wouldnt really want to listen to it over and over again. still, interesting.

Deth
10-28-2005, 12:33 PM
Why do I now think that DT have way too much time on their hands?

scenesfromatheater
10-28-2005, 12:46 PM
There are absolutly loads of nuggets, some of them are just stupid and pointless though. Most of them probably weren't intensional, but fans just found something new and thought it was supposed to be there.

Happy
10-28-2005, 12:49 PM
Why do I now think that DT have way too much time on their hands?
Because they do. Either that or Berklee (or whatever music school they went to) taught them well.

the2stranger
10-28-2005, 12:51 PM
Also does everyone know about the nugget in In The Name Of God?
Starting at 5:50, JR plays "EAT MY *** AND BALLS" in morse code! No joke!

:lol:

is this true?
/doesn't know morse code
but if it's true, holy... :lol:

Deth
10-28-2005, 12:52 PM
Because they do. Either that or Berklee (or whatever music school they went to) taught them well.
I don't think Berklee taught them to put random crap in their songs.

Happy
10-28-2005, 12:58 PM
I don't think Berklee taught them to put random crap in their songs.
have you been to Berklee? :shifty:
Nah I'm kidding.
I think they all sat down and came with ideas for stuff they could hide in the album if you know what I mean.

Deth
10-28-2005, 01:03 PM
I agree. But still, they could have been writing songs that Don't sound like U2 or Muse :p .

Happy
10-28-2005, 01:18 PM
Ugh yeah. Even though I like Muse an all.

Ad Absurdum
10-28-2005, 01:33 PM
I agree. But still, they could have been writing songs that Don't sound like U2 or Muse :p .
Apperently 'These Walls' is a ripoff of a Linkin Park song too, although I've not seen the website where they have the mp3s playing next to each other. I can't say for sure because I've not listened to Linkin Park since I was 13/14.

It's pretty strange how I despise Linkin Park but don't mind 'These Walls', and how I'm indifferent to Muse but love 'Panic Attack' and 'Never Enough'.

Also, does anyone else get a 'Sing For Absolution' vibe from the verse in 'Sacrificed Sons'?

temporary
10-28-2005, 02:06 PM
:lol:

is this true?
/doesn't know morse code
but if it's true, holy... :lol:

If thats really true, thats increadably sad... I mean, their like 40, they should have some more maturity than that...

Happy
10-28-2005, 02:07 PM
It is true.

Toaster
10-28-2005, 02:19 PM
You're correct it is absolutely jam packed with them, check out this site: http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Also does everyone know about the nugget in In The Name Of God?
Starting at 5:50, JR plays "EAT MY *** AND BALLS" in morse code! No joke!

Wow, that's cool. He doesn't seem like the guy who would do that though, maybe MP or something. :p

Why are you guys so unimpressed?? I was totally enthused when I realized how many nuggets were in Octavarium.. I don't think its so bad, either. Some good tracks on there.

nowitzki
10-28-2005, 02:52 PM
I think it's amazing how they managed to make such a complex album, and think of all these ideas in such a short time. It didn't seem like that long between when they were still touring ToT and 8VM was released.

GenuineImitation
10-28-2005, 02:55 PM
I think it's amazing how they managed to make such a complex album, and think of all these ideas in such a short time. It didn't seem like that long between when they were still touring ToT and 8VM was released.

I agree with your statement. I also believe that people dont give the album enough credit. It is a good album, especially for one written in a short amount of time.

shamed-angel
10-28-2005, 03:16 PM
Wow, that's cool. He doesn't seem like the guy who would do that though, maybe MP or something. :p

Why are you guys so unimpressed?? I was totally enthused when I realized how many nuggets were in Octavarium.. I don't think its so bad, either. Some good tracks on there.
It's Mp's motto in life...

Happy
10-28-2005, 05:46 PM
Anyone got a pic of Petrucci front on from one of the recent gigs by any chance at all?

Ad Absurdum
10-28-2005, 05:54 PM
Anyone got a pic of Petrucci front on from one of the recent gigs by any chance at all? Yes (http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?action=view&current=000_0502.jpg)

Sorry, not the greatest pic ever.

Edit - Nevermind, didn't realise the front on part.

GenuineImitation
10-28-2005, 05:55 PM
Yes (http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?action=view&current=000_0502.jpg)

Sorry, not the greatest pic ever.

Just curious, what song were they playing when you took the picture?

Ad Absurdum
10-28-2005, 05:58 PM
Just curious, what song were they playing when you took the picture?
Can't remember, it probably would have been 'Fatal Tragedy' though.

Happy
10-28-2005, 06:08 PM
Hey it still helps thanks.

Ad Absurdum
10-28-2005, 06:10 PM
Ah, check out Phreeck's photobucket (http://photobucket.com/albums/a34/Phreeck/), (s)he's got some great Petrucci pics (they were posted in a thread in the gutiar forum)

scenesfromatheater
10-28-2005, 06:16 PM
I was about there in the crowd. But a bit to the right, so I was right infront of JP.

Happy
10-28-2005, 06:17 PM
Ah, check out Phreeck's photobucket (http://photobucket.com/albums/a34/Phreeck/), (s)he's got some great Petrucci pics (they were posted in a thread in the gutiar forum)
cool cheers. I'm only asking cos I need a haircut and I much like Petrucci's hair.

GenuineImitation
10-28-2005, 06:18 PM
Ah, check out Phreeck's photobucket (http://photobucket.com/albums/a34/Phreeck/), (s)he's got some great Petrucci pics (they were posted in a thread in the gutiar forum)


Thats a nice collection of pictures.

scenesfromatheater
10-28-2005, 06:58 PM
cool cheers. I'm only asking cos I need a haircut and I much like Petrucci's hair.

Have you got the slick beard to go with it though?

Happy
10-28-2005, 06:59 PM
Have you got the slick beard to go with it though?
Nah, I'm thinking I'll look stupid with the hair on it's own though. My hair's super long.

scenesfromatheater
10-28-2005, 07:02 PM
Nah, I'm thinking I'll look stupid with the hair on it's own though. My hair's super long.

Looks like a trendy/indie kid haircut without the beard me thinks.

Happy
10-28-2005, 07:11 PM
Looks like a trendy/indie kid haircut without the beard me thinks.
:( but I don't know how else to do it.

Lord of Sword
10-28-2005, 07:21 PM
here's a couple i took. i was about 8 rows back for the first set and 4 during the 2nd, but for some bizarre reason, my digital camera has a slow shutter speed and takes about 2 seconds to take the picture, so most of them came out blurred. there were a few good ones though (i went to the wolverhampton gig btw)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/1664/pict00315ll.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8199/pict00296ps.jpg
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/282/pict00349ay.jpg

Happy
10-28-2005, 07:26 PM
Neat. In the last one he's playing Octavarium right?

classicrockman
10-28-2005, 08:05 PM
Neat. In the last one he's playing Octavarium right?
He uses a double-neck on "Soiltary Shell" too.

Happy
10-28-2005, 08:11 PM
He uses a double-neck on "Soiltary Shell" too.
oic. They didn't play that at the gig I went to.

Lord of Sword
10-28-2005, 08:13 PM
Neat. In the last one he's playing Octavarium right?

yes, the only time he used the double neck that night. the other 2 i think are from the glass prison.

Chu
10-29-2005, 02:17 AM
So what the hell is Petrucci doing with himself these days?
He's starting to look gayer and gayer, first was the Edward Scissorhands impersination and now it's the "I haven't had a shower for a while" look. :confused:
He was so pro with long hair :(

Cain
10-29-2005, 02:25 AM
So what the hell is Petrucci doing with himself these days?
He's starting to look gayer and gayer, first was the Edward Scissorhands impersination and now it's the "I haven't had a shower for a while" look. :confused:
He was so pro with long hair :(

Heh, I agree. Post some pics of what he looks like lately, though, I haven't seen any.

I was just on his website and saw a picture of his wife, who also plays guitar. She's got quite a rack. Good going, JP. :naughty:

FatalEnergy
10-29-2005, 02:44 AM
Apparently Half of DT's band memeber's wives were in some band called Meanstreak

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=1906

Thier Metal-Archives link

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 05:56 AM
Here's a great selection of photos from both Monday and Tuesday:
http://www.woodee.co.uk/cgi-bin/dt_gallery/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_sub&path=Gigs&tn=1

:thumb:

EDIT: hmm, the links not working now, but there is a great selection somewhere on the Voices site.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 06:00 AM
Look at JP's goth boots :lol:

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 06:26 AM
i was about 8 rows back for the first set and 4 during the 2nd.

So was I, you may have seen me. I was wearing a Maiden shirt and I had my hair tied back, and I am quite tall and sexy:naughty: . If you saw anyone's CD getting thrown on stage, it was mine:naughty: .

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 06:30 AM
Those boots are cool.
/wants some.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 06:39 AM
Look at JP's goth boots :lol:

Why did someone get on the floor on the stage just so they could take a picture of JP's boots?

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:04 AM
I have no idea whatsoever. When there's Mike's magnificent monster to behold.

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 07:08 AM
I have no idea whatsoever. When there's Mike's magnificent monster to behold.
That could be taken the wrong way...

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:10 AM
That was my point... :rolleyes:

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 07:13 AM
:amaze: ok then

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:21 AM
Lord Abortion like doublentendre.

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 07:22 AM
Lord Abortion like doublentendre.
I certainly do...

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 07:28 AM
I certainly do...

Hey, you have 9,999 posts... cool.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:32 AM
And you've only been here 3 months more than me... :confused:

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 07:34 AM
And I've been here for longer than all of you :cool:

But I registered ages ago and didn't actually start using the forums until a few months ago.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:51 AM
Yeh? Well I have a leg missing... No. Seriously.

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 07:52 AM
well I made a thread about it...

Through her eyes is seriously awesome...

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 07:54 AM
It is isn't it. The "She never really had a chance on that fateful moonlit night." is so beautiful. This song is the song for me that confirms James's vocal brilliance and diversity...

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 07:56 AM
It is isn't it. The "She never really had a chance on that fateful moonlit night." is so beautiful. This song is the song for me that confirms James's vocal brilliance and diversity...

What do you think is Labrei's best live vocals, I was listening to the live songs on ACOS and his vocals are incredible compaired to Budokan and LSFNY.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 08:02 AM
It is isn't it. The "She never really had a chance on that fateful moonlit night." is so beautiful. This song is the song for me that confirms James's vocal brilliance and diversity...

I'm not really a fan of that song. It's OK as part of SFAM but on it's own it's not a song I ever want to listen to.

What do you think is Labrei's best live vocals, I was listening to the live songs on ACOS and his vocals are incredible compaired to Budokan and LSFNY.

Live at the Marquee I'd say, although i think a lot of them were recorded again for the CD so it's not technically all live.
However his best live vocals have to be when I saw them last Monday/Tuesday :D

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 08:15 AM
It seems like he can't control his voice live anymore. When you listen to Live at the Marquee and Once In a Live Time he has an incredible powerful voice, but on Budokan and LSFNY and when I saw them in Wovlerhamton, he just can't sing that well. At some points it's painful to listen to it's that bad.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 08:20 AM
It seems like he can't control his voice live anymore. When you listen to Live at the Marquee and Once In a Live Time he has an incredible powerful voice, but on Budokan and LSFNY and when I saw them in Wovlerhamton, he just can't sing that well. At some points it's painful to listen to it's that bad.

What?!?! In London he was on fire, his voice was incredible.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 08:23 AM
He was good at Wolverhampton, but it's just that he can't sing as well as he used to. His best vocals were in Under a Glass Moon in Wolves, he got that high note real good. no TIME to dissapear.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 08:25 AM
It seems like he can't control his voice live anymore. When you listen to Live at the Marquee and Once In a Live Time he has an incredible powerful voice, but on Budokan and LSFNY and when I saw them in Wovlerhamton, he just can't sing that well. At some points it's painful to listen to it's that bad.
I think he's alot better than most vocalist, the only vocalist I think can rival him is Daniel Gildenlow. I also think that he was awesome in London, a few 'sack-attacks'here and there but it's to be expected. 90% incredible is better than 100% good.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 08:25 AM
I like those stats I must say.:naughty:

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 08:26 AM
Pardon me?

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 08:29 AM
90% incredible is better than 100% good.

Those stats, if that's what they would be called:naughty: . I've got to stop using that Smilie now.

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 08:29 AM
If you watch LSFNY..is it me, or does JLB look alot like Meatloaf?

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 08:30 AM
All my friends say I look like Meatloaf.

Lord of Sword
10-29-2005, 08:41 AM
i thought james was perfect on wednesday, besides the 2 majesty songs. i was right by the speakers on the right and the sound wasn't that great so maybe that affected it, but it was the best i've heard him singing live in years (judging from bootlegs/live dvds).
on budokan on the higher or louder parts he just seems to shout the words, not caring about the pitch or anything. last week though he was even adding in high notes where before he'd have just sung an octave lower.

Ad Absurdum
10-29-2005, 09:04 AM
What?!?! In London he was on fire, his voice was incredible.
I totally agree. Although I've only seen them on this tour and the Train Of Thought tour, I was more impressed with his voice this time round; I can't think of any faults he made and he put alot of energy into his performance.

Happy
10-29-2005, 09:05 AM
If you watch LSFNY..is it me, or does JLB look alot like Meatloaf?
Yes but at least he doesn't have heart attacks on stage.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 09:56 AM
And Meatloaf is past it. James and DT are no-where near done.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 09:59 AM
And Meatloaf is past it. James and DT are no-where near done.

Is Octavarium going to be DT's last album? If it is, it better not be there last tour.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 10:04 AM
Not at all. In the programme, James Labrie says,
"It's hard to believe it's been 20 years, it feels like we're just getting into a real cool place abd groove. Here's to many more years of new music and tours. See you there."
I seriously doubt I'd survive them breaking up :upset:

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 10:09 AM
Not at all. In the programme, James Labrie says,
"It's hard to believe it's been 20 years, it feels like we're just getting into a real cool place abd groove. Here's to many more years of new music and tours. See you there."
I seriously doubt I'd survive them breaking up :upset:

Cool, I was getting worried if it was their last tour or not. I hope they do a tour of different albums, cause I wanna see them play SFAM all the way through...that would be ultimate.

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 10:10 AM
That was amazing. Sorry. But I had to say!

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 10:42 AM
I'm starting to get into Awake now, Voices, The Mirror and Lie are class. I just can't see myself thinking it's better than I&W.

Tails
10-29-2005, 11:22 AM
He was good at Wolverhampton, but it's just that he can't sing as well as he used to. His best vocals were in Under a Glass Moon in Wolves, he got that high note real good. no TIME to dissapear.

He damaged his vocal chords and stopped taking care of himself for a while. (hence the looking like Meatloaf in LSFNY) Recently (the past couple years) he's been training with a vocal coach and taking care of himself, hence looking and sounding much better at Budokan than LSFNY. Apparently, at I think the London gig, he even hit the high F# in Learning to Live, so he's getting back to where he was.

static
10-29-2005, 12:02 PM
(hence the looking like Meatloaf in LSFNY)

That's an odd way to put it. :lol:

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 12:51 PM
He damaged his vocal chords and stopped taking care of himself for a while. (hence the looking like Meatloaf in LSFNY) Recently (the past couple years) he's been training with a vocal coach and taking care of himself, hence looking and sounding much better at Budokan than LSFNY. Apparently, at I think the London gig, he even hit the high F# in Learning to Live, so he's getting back to where he was.

Yeah, that was amazing. He doesn't even attempt it on LSFNY.

Lord Abortion
10-29-2005, 01:09 PM
I love that note in "learning to LIVE!"
It's an excellent song all round...

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 01:18 PM
I love that note in "learning to LIVE!"
It's an excellent song all round...

Yep, probably my favourite DT song.

Aberrationbass
10-29-2005, 01:53 PM
i have loads of shots of myung from the wolverhampton gig cos i was right infront of him it was too good though
mind blowing
Pettruccis get up was cool the boots and the pants and the hair
Portnoys green beard!
Labries extremely tight pants
Rudesses librarian look
and Myung looking exactly the same as always...........
whoever said they've not got no stage presence and just stand there is a liar because they performed amazingly it was just to sweet Myung actually looks like hes part of the bass

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 01:57 PM
i have loads of shots of myung from the wolverhampton gig cos i was right infront of him it was too good though
mind blowing
Pettruccis get up was cool the boots and the pants and the hair
Portnoys green beard!
Labries extremely tight pants
Rudesses librarian look
and Myung looking exactly the same as always...........
whoever said they've not got no stage presence and just stand there is a liar because they performed amazingly it was just to sweet Myung actually looks like hes part of the bass

I love Myung's plain shirt and sexy leather trousers/pants. Just quality.:lol:

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 02:37 PM
i have loads of shots of myung from the wolverhampton gig cos i was right infront of him it was too good though
mind blowing
Pettruccis get up was cool the boots and the pants and the hair
Portnoys green beard!
Labries extremely tight pants
Rudesses librarian look
and Myung looking exactly the same as always...........
whoever said they've not got no stage presence and just stand there is a liar because they performed amazingly it was just to sweet Myung actually looks like hes part of the bass

You barely ever see him without a bass, on one of the DVDs it shows everyone on the tour bus just relaxing, and John's there playing his bass.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 02:43 PM
You barely ever see him without a bass, on one of the DVDs it shows everyone on the tour bus just relaxing, and John's there playing his bass.

And on the interview with him on the documentry on the Budokan Bonus disc, a women is interviewing him, and he's sitting there with a bass.

Deth
10-29-2005, 02:53 PM
John's become my favorite bass player.

I'm learning Metropolis Pt.1 on bass. Hard as ****, but it'll be worth it.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 03:02 PM
John's become my favorite bass player.

I'm learning Metropolis Pt.1 on bass. Hard as ****, but it'll be worth it.

I can play it all apart from the bass solo and the section from 7.22-8.00. I'm always trying to learn DT songs, the bass is always great, JM is amazing.

Deth
10-29-2005, 03:05 PM
It's even harder on a 4 string. The rest of the song other than the solo isn't too bad though.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 03:09 PM
It's even harder on a 4 string. The rest of the song other than the solo isn't too bad though.

I've got my 5 string, so I can learn pretty much any song :D

Firecracker
10-29-2005, 03:11 PM
I never really got into learning to live because i was always playing the intro on piano, and didn't get any further than that, and i haven't really listened to it that much.

Triangle
10-29-2005, 03:42 PM
I never really got into learning to live because i was always playing the intro on piano, and didn't get any further than that, and i haven't really listened to it that much.
It's one of DT's best songs in my opinion. Seeing it live really convinced me that it was.

Deth
10-29-2005, 03:43 PM
Triangle, your user title sounds dirty.

And yeah, Learning To Live is amazing.

Triangle
10-29-2005, 03:45 PM
Triangle, your user title sounds dirty.

And yeah, Learning To Live is amazing.
It does doesn't it ;) . Nah, I shook his hand at his guitar clinic and I'm proud of it! :p

Firecracker
10-29-2005, 03:45 PM
It's one of DT's best songs in my opinion. Seeing it live really convinced me that it was.
I really should have gone on Tuesday aswell. :( :(:(
Then i would have seen 'The Spirit Carries On'.
On Metropolis 2000: Scenes From New York dvd, when i watched that song, it made me cry, the choir, i mean it was immense.

nowitzki
10-29-2005, 03:49 PM
I really should have gone on Tuesday aswell. :( :(:(
Then i would have seen 'The Spirit Carries On'.
On Metropolis 2000: Scenes From New York dvd, when i watched that song, it made me cry, the choir, i mean it was immense.

I know what you mean, I got pretty emotional when I first watched that, and live it was incredible, the atmosphere in the place was so good. And then in comes the intro to LTL...:eek:

Deth
10-29-2005, 03:51 PM
It does doesn't it ;) . Nah, I shook his hand at his guitar clinic and I'm proud of it! :p
Imagine if you would have crushed his hand in your mighty grip :eek:!

No more guitar for John.

FakeReality
10-29-2005, 04:03 PM
The Peruvian Skies solo is one of my favourites ever <3

Triangle
10-29-2005, 04:04 PM
I know what you mean, I got pretty emotional when I first watched that, and live it was incredible, the atmosphere in the place was so good. And then in comes the intro to LTL...:eek:
I know, I was almost in some sort of hypnotic state I was getting so much into that song live. It was screwed up!

shamed-angel
10-29-2005, 06:12 PM
I know, I was almost in some sort of hypnotic state I was getting so much into that song live. It was screwed up!
I spent the whole of all their gigs just spellbound by them...

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 06:46 PM
I was loving Under a Glass Moon on Wednesday. They did a random bit at 4:00, and just kept on doing random notes for a while, then Rudess went into the circus tune(from the end of Universal Mind). Made me laugh very much so.:lol:

Happy
10-29-2005, 07:05 PM
Yeah they did that monday too. And a random Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 07:08 PM
Yeah they did that monday too. And a random Twinkle Twinkle Little Star.

Darn, they didn't do that for us simple folks.:upset: What song was it in?

Happy
10-29-2005, 07:13 PM
Darn, they didn't do that for us simple folks.:upset: What song was it in?
I really can't remember but it was like an uber cool version on keyboard.

scenesfromatheater
10-29-2005, 07:26 PM
I really can't remember but it was like an uber cool version on keyboard.

ooooohhhhhhh.....I really want to hear it now.:upset:

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 04:05 AM
I really can't remember but it was like an uber cool version on keyboard.
It was a replacement for my favourite Jr keyboard solo... I don't think I've ever been so pissed off seeing them. The solo at around 6:30 minutes. It's the sex.

nowitzki
10-30-2005, 05:06 AM
It was a replacement for my favourite Jr keyboard solo... I don't think I've ever been so pissed off seeing them. The solo at around 6:30 minutes. It's the sex.

You didn't say which song... Endless Sacrifice

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 05:30 AM
****. I didn't did I... hehe.
Just wondering, scenesfromatheater and nowitzki, do you know each other? You're both from Derby, so I thought you might? Sorry if I'm a bit slow on this.

Triangle
10-30-2005, 05:41 AM
Endless Sacrifice was great live. It really worked well live and sounded a lot better than the album version.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 05:42 AM
I suppose, I just really love that keyboard solo, last year they played it and I nearly wet myself.

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 09:52 AM
The Peruvian Skies solo is one of my favourites ever <3

Yeah that is a great solo. I also like The Spirit Carries On and Hollow Years. ( live at Budokan. ) Those are my fav. Petrucci solos :thumb:

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:04 AM
I HATE Hollow Years. That song sucks. Soo bad.

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 10:12 AM
I HATE Hollow Years. That song sucks. Soo bad.

It doesn't exactly suck. If you don't like it, fine. But that doesn't mean that it sucks ( Especially not when it's written by a band with so much talend. )

You are probably more a fan of Dream Theater's heavier stuff aren't you ?

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:13 AM
I'm a fan of their stuff that wasn't written with the sole intention of being on the radio. I'm not a huge fan of their heavier stuff. Just their more Progressive stuff.

red barchetta
10-30-2005, 10:13 AM
i'm into DT's quieter stuff but i also think Hollow Years suck.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:14 AM
i'm into DT's quieter stuff but i also think Hollow Years suck.
Quoted for Tr00f...

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 10:15 AM
Ok :thumb:

But I wasn't talking about the Hollow Years cd version, but the live in budokan version SOLO. It's amazing, I've a vid of it :D

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:18 AM
The intro solo is nice... very tasteful. The impro at the beginning you're talking about right?

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 10:19 AM
No. The main solo. But I like that one as well ;)

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:20 AM
Oh right. Isn't it the same as on the album? I quite like the solo, it's very latino. The song always seems to me to be the kind of radio friendly pig-**** they tended to write with DS.

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 10:32 AM
hxxp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05AR8XBMLFU5A39RRIC70SY5D9

That one ( Replace xx's with tt )

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:34 AM
I have the album... What's this? I have every version of it released?
Is it the LAB version? I'm listening to it now.

Lacrymosa
10-30-2005, 10:37 AM
I have the album... What's this? I have every version of it released?
Is it the LAB version? I'm listening to it now.

I thought it was the Live In Budokan version :confused: Anyways, I ment this one :p

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 10:39 AM
I havent downloaded it.
I just wondered if it was the LAB version because I have it. It's an ok song I suppose, just not what I like about DT. It does the accesible radio friendly song pretty well. But that's not what DT is about at all is it?
Yeah you're right. The solo is nice.

Triangle
10-30-2005, 10:54 AM
It's catchy and sweet but the Budokan solos owned the song flat out.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 11:05 AM
True. And It's near to, if not at the bottom, of their repertoire. Doesn't make it a bad song though!

IvortheEngineDriver
10-30-2005, 11:25 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Pertucci's backup vocals on ITNOG on the LAB DVD drive me nuts! I wish he didn't sing it...

I've been thinking...

I think Portnoy is a great writer...not as good as the Kevin Moore stuff from IaW and Awake, but I REALLY like his series with The Glass Prision/This Dying Soul/TROAE...those 3 songs are seriously the ones I listen to the most.

I wish Kevin Moore would come back and write some songs though :) AHhh, I can dream, right?

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 11:34 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Pertucci's backup vocals on ITNOG on the LAB DVD drive me nuts! I wish he didn't sing it...

I've been thinking...

I think Portnoy is a great writer...not as good as the Kevin Moore stuff from IaW and Awake, but I REALLY like his series with The Glass Prision/This Dying Soul/TROAE...those 3 songs are seriously the ones I listen to the most.

I wish Kevin Moore would come back and write some songs though :) AHhh, I can dream, right?
There will be more AA songs, because he's only done steps 1-7 of the AA steps. I think Petrucci is a way better backing vocalist than MP. You can only dream:p. I prefer Jp's writing on the I&W album.

LiquidTensionTheatre
10-30-2005, 12:11 PM
Saw them live at the Hammersmith Apollo on tuesday. They were rather good. Better than rather good. Bloody good. The best, maybe. They were better than they were in Paris, but that may only be because they had a longer set this time. Oh, sweet god they were good. Portnoy was doing this thing where he'd switch to playing one-handed and throw his other stick to his techie, then the techie'd throw it back... they did it 3 times, cause he kinda dropped it the first two times. Jordan looked pretty fearful, cause the path of the stick nearly intersected with his head :lol: But when Portnoy caught it the third time he got possibly the biggest cheer of the night.

Just had to get that off my chest.

I was a little skeptical at first of them covering Dark Side of the Moon, but they did it with style and taste. And the guest vocalist they used had crazy skills.

What IS that red box that Rudess plays? I'm deeply intrigued. I wanna get the instructional keys video he's bringing out, cause I like to dabble in keys every now and again...

*breathes out* sorry if that was irrelevant or stupid in any amount of ways.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 12:14 PM
The box is called a continuum. Portnoy commands the stage. Did JR continuum for the lap-steel bit at the beginning of Breathe?

LiquidTensionTheatre
10-30-2005, 12:32 PM
I don't know DSOTM too well (speakers on PC broke like 3 days after I got the album :upset:) but if it's the part I'm thinking then he did. There was a lot of amazing continuum everywhere that night!

And yeah, Portnoy has to be the biggest attention seeker in the band :) he's great though.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 01:04 PM
He's Dream Theater's Lars Ulrich. Without being a complete twat.

Happy
10-30-2005, 01:25 PM
He's Dream Theater's Lars Ulrich. Without being a complete twat.
And without totally sucking at his instrument.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 01:31 PM
My bad... forgot that bit...
The guy is a really nice guy. I met him in the noodlebar next to the Apollo during the 6DOIT tour, well I say met but I just said "hi!" and he smiled and said "Hey dude" back. He asked me to jam and we did. It was great. That's my encounter with him.
Ok that was a dream:upset:

Post your DT fantasies here!

Toaster
10-30-2005, 02:26 PM
My bad... forgot that bit...
The guy is a really nice guy. I met him in the noodlebar next to the Apollo during the 6DOIT tour, well I say met but I just said "hi!" and he smiled and said "Hey dude" back. He asked me to jam and we did. It was great. That's my encounter with him.
Ok that was a dream:upset:

Post your DT fantasies here!

I meet John Petrucci at a show, he asks me to jam, then we discover we have unbelievably similar tastes in music! Then he asks me to join the band as lead guitarist and singer. Then I write all the band's music and fire JR.

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 03:19 PM
NO. You suck. That would destroy the essence of DT :(. But It'd still be cool. Cause I'd say "He predicted that that would happen on an internet messageboard."

Lord Abortion
10-30-2005, 03:42 PM
But he has a nice beard... that makes up for any attention seeking he may do in my book.

the2stranger
10-30-2005, 03:52 PM
The box is called a continuum. Portnoy commands the stage. Did JR continuum for the lap-steel bit at the beginning of Breathe?


it rocks, I want one too.

but I hav e to buy another synth first :(

IbanezSamurai
10-30-2005, 04:15 PM
I made some cool dream theater gifs, feel free to steal them.

Ps. They are too big for this forum.

http://public.fotki.com/Ibanezsamurai/guitar_gifs/

shamed-angel
10-30-2005, 05:11 PM
Nice one man, quality. I like the one from Live in Japan of JM. His old bass was lush.

Lord of Sword
10-30-2005, 06:48 PM
were the music videos ever released on a dvd? i've seen parts of the Lie video in the images and words/twice in a livetime trailer but don't know if they're all on that dvd. all i've ever found online is the pull me under video, but i'll probably get the dvd for christmas anyway.
also, is it worth getting the when dream and day re-unite dvd? i was thinking of getting that a while ago too, and might have that for christmas.

IbanezSamurai
10-30-2005, 07:10 PM
were the music videos ever released on a dvd? i've seen parts of the Lie video in the images and words/twice in a livetime trailer but don't know if they're all on that dvd. all i've ever found online is the pull me under video, but i'll probably get the dvd for christmas anyway.
also, is it worth getting the when dream and day re-unite dvd? i was thinking of getting that a while ago too, and might have that for christmas.

Yeah, its on double feature dvd.

GenuineImitation
10-30-2005, 07:15 PM
Today I saw the music video for Pull Me Under on VH1 classics. This is the second time I saw the video, but I was surprised to see Dream Theater on
VH1. Did they only make Lie and Oull me Under music videos, or did they make music videos for other songs?

IbanezSamurai
10-30-2005, 08:13 PM
Today I saw the music video for Pull Me Under on VH1 classics. This is the second time I saw the video, but I was surprised to see Dream Theater on
VH1. Did they only make Lie and Oull me Under music videos, or did they make music videos for other songs?

Lie and Pull me under were the only ones that made it on MTV.

Videos they made

Pull Me under
Take the Time
Another Day
Silent Man
Lie
Hollow years

Triangle
10-31-2005, 04:15 AM
Woah, Take The Time video hehe.

Nice job on the gifs btw.

Chu
10-31-2005, 06:48 AM
I made some cool dream theater gifs, feel free to steal them.

Ps. They are too big for this forum.

http://public.fotki.com/Ibanezsamurai/guitar_gifs/
Yeah they are pretty cool man!

Spiritofmosa
10-31-2005, 06:49 AM
i have this song in my computer by dream theater called lost without you, but i cant seem to find the tabs for this song. Maybe its titled wrongly or something, the whole song is a ballad like guitar solo. Anyone know if this is a dream theater song?

Lord Abortion
10-31-2005, 08:38 AM
Could be "I walk beside you"

probably not though, I think I may get the doubl feature DVD with I&W live in Tokyo and the other one I forget on

Triangle
10-31-2005, 09:13 AM
i have this song in my computer by dream theater called lost without you, but i cant seem to find the tabs for this song. Maybe its titled wrongly or something, the whole song is a ballad like guitar solo. Anyone know if this is a dream theater song?
Eve. I think. It's one of my favourite DT tracks, if it is that.

Lionheart1827
10-31-2005, 10:10 AM
Lie and Pull me under were the only ones that made it on MTV.

Videos they made

Pull Me under
Take the Time
Another Day
Silent Man
Lie
Hollow years

Dont forget As I Am, but it hasn't been released in any form though, but there was a video shoot for it.:thumb:

the2stranger
10-31-2005, 10:18 AM
i have this song in my computer by dream theater called lost without you, but i cant seem to find the tabs for this song. Maybe its titled wrongly or something, the whole song is a ballad like guitar solo. Anyone know if this is a dream theater song?

I have that song too. it rocks though :)

nowitzki
10-31-2005, 10:19 AM
Dont forget As I Am, but it hasn't been released in any form though, but there was a video shoot for it.:thumb:

Really?? I've never heard about this.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 10:46 AM
Woah, Take The Time video hehe.

Nice job on the gifs btw.
The video sucks. It's basically JP's lesson on Rock Guitar God poses.

I have that song too. it rocks though :)
Could you email it to me please? I don't think I've heard it.

the2stranger
10-31-2005, 10:52 AM
The video sucks. It's basically JP's lesson on Rock Guitar God poses.


Could you email it to me please? I don't think I've heard it.

sure thing
let me try.
I hope YSI doesn't screw up.
but I'll try to send it as an attachemnt first

nowitzki
10-31-2005, 10:59 AM
The video sucks. It's basically JP's lesson on Rock Guitar God poses.

Yeah it's a really bad video. Plus the song is ruined after it's been edited to about half of it's full length.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 11:11 AM
They did that with PMU. But that song's not that great either.

the2stranger
10-31-2005, 11:15 AM
shamed-angel:

Sent

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 11:16 AM
:) Thank you...

Lord of Sword
10-31-2005, 12:03 PM
i have this song in my computer by dream theater called lost without you, but i cant seem to find the tabs for this song. Maybe its titled wrongly or something, the whole song is a ballad like guitar solo. Anyone know if this is a dream theater song?

it's off suspended animation (petrucci's solo album). if you've got powertab, you can get a tab here:
http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,19008

scenesfromatheater
10-31-2005, 12:15 PM
it's off suspended animation (petrucci's solo album). if you've got powertab, you can get a tab here:
http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,19008

Is Suspended Animation actually any good? I got Labrie's solo album, and it's awsome. The guitar sound is so much like Petrucci's , it's cool. A lot like TOT.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 12:19 PM
Could someone send me eve please? I thought this song was Eve... but it turns out to be solo JP I wondered why it was almost all shred.

scenesfromatheater
10-31-2005, 12:25 PM
Could someone send me eve please? I thought this song was Eve... but it turns out to be solo JP I wondered why it was almost all shred.

I have it. Sending...

Dreww
10-31-2005, 12:28 PM
I like Dream Theater a lot. I hate when people say Petrucci is just a mindless wanker. I have always found his playing very tasteful.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 12:30 PM
I like Dream Theater a lot. I hate when people say Petrucci is just a mindless wanker. I have always found his playing very tasteful.
He's one of the only 'shredders' with feel, I find...

Dreww
10-31-2005, 12:31 PM
I think Satriani is tasteful at times as well. And I shouldn't have to bring up "For The Love Of God" by Steve Vai. People like Batio however, I just can't hear the feeling in their playing. If anybody can PM me a song where he displays feeling I would appreciate it.

scenesfromatheater
10-31-2005, 12:32 PM
I like Dream Theater a lot. I hate when people say Petrucci is just a mindless wanker. I have always found his playing very tasteful.

A bit random, but everything else is on this thread. I have to agree though.

nowitzki
10-31-2005, 01:27 PM
Regardless of his amazing abilty, JP has written some of the most beautiful solos I've ever heard. Learning to Live and The Spirit Carries On are two prime examples. And Another Day.

Lord of Sword
10-31-2005, 02:05 PM
and peruvian skies. that was one of the best songs of the wolverhampton gig, even though it's not my favourite DT song.

temporary
10-31-2005, 02:10 PM
hxxp://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=05AR8XBMLFU5A39RRIC70SY5D9

That one ( Replace xx's with tt )

Wow, thats pretty amazing, thanks for uploading.

Ad Absurdum
10-31-2005, 02:40 PM
I think Satriani is tasteful at times as well. And I shouldn't have to bring up "For The Love Of God" by Steve Vai. People like Batio however, I just can't hear the feeling in their playing. If anybody can PM me a song where he displays feeling I would appreciate it.
'Rain Forest' by MAB is pretty good I think, I don't have the song on my computer though, sorry. There aren't any other songs by him that I particularly like though.

Personally, I really don't like Vai's or Satch's "shredding". Vai has got a really flashy, but kind of lyrical style of playing but ultimately I think his songs are boring (there are a few notable exceptions though, like 'Blue Powder'). Satch is better than Vai in my opinion, but his music just doesn't have enough going on to keep me intrested for a whole album.


Although Petrucci is pretty straightfowward with his playing, I much prefer him to all the "shredders" I previously mentioned - I think Petrucci has more feel and his solos almost always sound really good to me.

My favourite shredder is Matthias IA Eklundh, but he doesn't seem to get nearly as much recognition as he should.

scenesfromatheater
10-31-2005, 03:44 PM
My favourite shredder is Matthias IA Eklundh, but he doesn't seem to get nearly as much recognition as he should.

Oh......him.:confused:

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 04:02 PM
The solo from Overture 1928, which plays the theme from Metropolis, which is on the first metropolis,
"There must be the third and last dance, and this one will last forever.
Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles. She's taken you to your home."
is absolutely stunning. His solos in Surrounded and Another Day take my breath away. That solo wasn't "played" it was composed, perfectly for the song.

scenesfromatheater
10-31-2005, 04:13 PM
The solo from Overture 1928, which plays the theme from Metropolis, which is on the first metropolis,
"There must be the third and last dance, and this one will last forever.
Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles. She's taken you to your home."
is absolutely stunning. His solos in Surrounded and Another Day take my breath away. That solo wasn't "played" it was composed, perfectly for the song.

Overture 1928 and most of the rest of the songs on SFAM have just mezmorising solos in them. I love that one you mentioned. Why doesn't JP make them easier for me to play though:upset: .

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 04:16 PM
Haha. Because that'd take the irony out of DT? That it's the most beautiful music in the world, yet it can be re-created by only a small few. (Including the band)

nowitzki
10-31-2005, 04:22 PM
Haha. Because that'd take the irony out of DT? That it's the most beautiful music in the world, yet it can be re-created by only a small few. (Including the band)

Very true.

GenuineImitation
10-31-2005, 05:22 PM
The solo from Overture 1928, which plays the theme from Metropolis, which is on the first metropolis,
"There must be the third and last dance, and this one will last forever.
Metropolis watches and thoughtfully smiles. She's taken you to your home."
is absolutely stunning. His solos in Surrounded and Another Day take my breath away. That solo wasn't "played" it was composed, perfectly for the song.


Thats my favorite Dream Theater solo.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 05:23 PM
I love the way JP uses themes and vocal melodies from Metropolis Pt 1 as guitar solos in Pt 2.

Toaster
10-31-2005, 05:25 PM
I love the way JP uses themes and vocal melodies from Metropolis Pt 1 as guitar solos in Pt 2.

Yeah, and a lot of the melodies on Pt. 2 recur over the album. It really helps the feel as an album.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 05:29 PM
It really helps the feel as a concept album. I love the way the concept isn't just lyrical, but also musical. That must be one of the only concept albums to borrow themes from the music which is it's topic, along with story references. The greatest concept elbum ever... **** it. The greatest album ever.

Toaster
10-31-2005, 05:34 PM
I like Awake better, myself. Pt. 2 is a bit too lightweight.

GenuineImitation
10-31-2005, 05:37 PM
I like Awake better, myself. Pt. 2 is a bit too lightweight.
I like Awake better also. Pt.2 is amazing, but I really enjoy their heavier material much more.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 05:38 PM
Part II had everything you could possibly want from a DT album... It's by far the album which showcases their talents the most.

Lord Abortion
10-31-2005, 05:39 PM
I like SFOAM better than awake... I just can't get into awake at all except space dye vest, which is magnificent.

Toaster
10-31-2005, 05:40 PM
Part II had everything you could possibly want from a DT album... It's by far the album which showcases their talents the most.

I don't know, some of the songs sound too similar. It's intentional, and it's part of what makes the album great, but the fact that it doesn't have that many songs I want to skip to immediately makes it weaker in my mind. I've probably listened to it too much, though.

Does anyone know who drums for Petrucci on the G3 cd? I think it's Portnoy, but I can't be sure. I know he drums for the G3 jams.

GenuineImitation
10-31-2005, 05:46 PM
Does anyone know who drums for Petrucci on the G3 cd? I think it's Portnoy, but I can't be sure. I know he drums for the G3 jams.


I didn't know Portnoy drummed for G3. I would guess it would be him then.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 05:47 PM
I don't know, some of the songs sound too similar. It's intentional, and it's part of what makes the album great, but the fact that it doesn't have that many songs I want to skip to immediately makes it weaker in my mind. I've probably listened to it too much, though.

Does anyone know who drums for Petrucci on the G3 cd? I think it's Portnoy, but I can't be sure. I know he drums for the G3 jams.
Yeh it is Portnoy. I have to disagree with you there. I can't skip to a song on that album, as I have to listen through it.

Lord Abortion
10-31-2005, 05:52 PM
Yeah, to really get SFOAM You have to listen two the whole thing, that's why I think the live versions of isolated tracks off there lose a little due to the lack of continuity.

My guitarist wanted me to know the words to master of puppets in case we ever look to be desperate to cover a song in case of onstage emergencies.
so I decided to break out the DT cover... if I have to learn it, at least I can listen to a good band play the song.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 05:57 PM
A band who continue to make good albums...

But seriously, I'm sure that DT will always stay loyal to the music, after this long in their careers, it would be pointless, as they have gained so many fans doing what they do. But wouldn't another concept record be phenomenal?

Lord Abortion
10-31-2005, 06:04 PM
Metallica stopped making good albums long before Majesty formed...

The last Metallica album of quality was in 1986, then about five or six songs since.

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 06:04 PM
Majesty formed in 1985...

Hence this tour being the 20th anniversary tour...

Lord Abortion
10-31-2005, 06:05 PM
Majesty formed in 1985...
I wouldn't say Puppets was all that good anyway, about half good and half rubbish...

I lost, eh?

shamed-angel
10-31-2005, 06:07 PM
I wouldn't say Puppets was all that good anyway, about half good and half rubbish...

I lost, eh?I'd call it backtracking. but I'm just nit-picking anyway.
It's cool man. I know what you meant.

EDIT: Crap, I just noticed the time, I'd better be in bed. Gotta be in school in 9 hours.

classicrockman
10-31-2005, 06:12 PM
I'd call it backtracking. but I'm just nit-picking anyway.
It's cool man. I know what you meant.

EDIT: Crap, I just noticed the time, I'd better be in bed. Gotta be in school in 9 hours.
:confused:

Where do you live?

nowitzki
10-31-2005, 06:37 PM
:confused:

Where do you live?

Here in the UK its 25 to 1am.

And I've got to be up for a 9am lecture as well...

But first I just had to say... yes, SFAM is amazing, possibly my all-time favourite album (either that or I&W). I don't think I'll ever be amazed by an album quite as much as the first time I listened to SFAM from start to finish.

Mr.Guitarist
10-31-2005, 06:42 PM
Yeah, i just got back onto these forums, and i have to say im absolutely amazed at the number of DT fans. I live in a small town, but even including the surrounding 5 towns, not more than a handfull of people know who they are! IT HURTS ME SO BAD.

Favorite album is either Scenes From a Memory or Train of Thought. SFAM, like has been said before, showcases their talents, and as shamed angel pointed out, i cant NOT listen through it from the beginning, its just that amazing. Train of Thought is up there cause....****, i dont even know why, im just drawn to it, its beautiful music, and Stream of Consciousness is one of my favorite songs in the whole world!!

Lord of Sword
10-31-2005, 07:01 PM
can someone clear up exactly what all these '...in a livetime' cds/dvds are? i was going to get the twice in a livetime dvd for christmas, the only one on amazon.co.uk. but reading the forums at dt.net, i've found "5 years in a livetime" and "once in a livetime". i think the last one is just a cd, but what's the difference and what's on each one?

Toaster
10-31-2005, 07:03 PM
Yeah, i just got back onto these forums, and i have to say im absolutely amazed at the number of DT fans. I live in a small town, but even including the surrounding 5 towns, not more than a handfull of people know who they are! IT HURTS ME SO BAD.

Favorite album is either Scenes From a Memory or Train of Thought. SFAM, like has been said before, showcases their talents, and as shamed angel pointed out, i cant NOT listen through it from the beginning, its just that amazing. Train of Thought is up there cause....****, i dont even know why, im just drawn to it, its beautiful music, and Stream of Consciousness is one of my favorite songs in the whole world!!

Yeah, everyone on these forums seems to like good music. It's hard to deny the talent of DT, anyway.

Chu
10-31-2005, 08:28 PM
Metallica stopped making good albums long before Majesty formed...

The last Metallica album of quality was in 1986, then about five or six songs since.
:thumb:

Best quote, ever.

Deth
10-31-2005, 09:06 PM
I bought Live At The Budokan today. The setlists sucks pretty bad, but Instrumedly alone was worth my $15.

Maynard's Dick
10-31-2005, 09:23 PM
I've been wondering which DT disc to get next. I have Images and Words, Awake, and Live at Budokan.
any suggestions appreciated.

Deth
10-31-2005, 09:27 PM
I would say Scenes From A Memory, it's my personal favorite.

Say, I'm wearing my SFAM shirt now :p.

Spiritofmosa
10-31-2005, 09:54 PM
it's off suspended animation (petrucci's solo album). if you've got powertab, you can get a tab here:
http://www.powertabs.net/pta.php?page=song,19008

what programme should i use to open it?

Tails
10-31-2005, 10:48 PM
can someone clear up exactly what all these '...in a livetime' cds/dvds are? i was going to get the twice in a livetime dvd for christmas, the only one on amazon.co.uk. but reading the forums at dt.net, i've found "5 years in a livetime" and "once in a livetime". i think the last one is just a cd, but what's the difference and what's on each one?

5 Years in a Livetime is a DVD pacakged with Live in Tokyo

Once in a Livetime is a CD

5 years is a home movie with concert clips, backstage stuff, and music videos from the Awake and FII era.

Once.. is a live CD from a show in France the tracklisting is:

Disc 1:

1. A Change of Seasons I: The Crimson Sunrise
2. A Change of Seasons II: Innocence
3. Puppies on Acid
4. Just Let Me Breathe
5. Voices
6. Take the Time
7. Derek Sherinian Piano Solo
8. Lines in the Sand
9. Scarred
10. A Change of Seasons IV: The Darkest of Winters
11. Ytse Jam
12. Mike Portnoy Drum Solo

Disc 2:

1. Trial of Tears
2. Hollow Years
3. Take Away My Pain
4. Caught in a Web

5. Lie
6. Peruvian Skies
7. John Petrucci Gutiar Solo
8. Pull Me Under
9. Metropolis
10. Learning to Live
11. A Change of Seasons VII: The Crimson Sunset

Killtacular
10-31-2005, 10:50 PM
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence tickles my fancy quite well.

Kirk's Puppet
11-01-2005, 05:11 AM
101 rules of prog metal http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

In case people haven't read it yet :D

nowitzki
11-01-2005, 05:48 AM
101 rules of prog metal http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

In case people haven't read it yet :D

:lol: That was great.

Not sure about some of them though, like 20. Spocks Beard is NOT prog?

Lord Abortion
11-01-2005, 08:33 AM
Do you think if I hit Petrucci with a stick a few times he'll agree to make DT play Space dye vest on the next tour?

Apocalyptic Raids
11-01-2005, 08:42 AM
I have read an interview where they say they will never play it unless Kevin Moore is playing it with them.

Unless they changed their mind.

Lord Abortion
11-01-2005, 08:43 AM
I have read an interview where they say they will never play it unless Kevin Moore is playing it with them.

Unless they changed their mind.
I can change their mind...WITH THIS AXE!!!

Officer Dickhead
11-01-2005, 10:18 AM
29. Get an Ibanez. This is not negotiable.
30. Spend 5 hours every day critiquing other musicians on forums.
31. Spend 5 minutes every other day actually practicing your instrument.

:lol: Great stuff :lol:

Deth
11-01-2005, 12:25 PM
Do you think if I hit Petrucci with a stick a few times he'll agree to make DT play Space dye vest on the next tour?
Depends how big the stick is.

bwnstl
11-01-2005, 12:36 PM
what programme should i use to open it?

Get VLC.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
YOu can play pretty much any media file on it

Happy
11-01-2005, 12:45 PM
Do you think if I hit Petrucci with a stick a few times he'll agree to make DT play Space dye vest on the next tour?
Go on.

Triangle
11-01-2005, 01:02 PM
101 rules of prog metal http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

In case people haven't read it yet :D
Ha, genius that is.

scenesfromatheater
11-01-2005, 01:30 PM
101 rules of prog metal http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

In case people haven't read it yet :D

I didn't find it funny to be honest. Haha, they could have made that 51 rules of prog metal, every other rule is just a continuation of the one before.

temporary
11-01-2005, 02:28 PM
101 rules of prog metal http://www.metalstorm.ee/fun/view_fun.php?id=18

In case people haven't read it yet :D

That was hilarious! :lol:

scenesfromatheater
11-01-2005, 03:01 PM
Who likes my new avatar??:naughty:

Ad Absurdum
11-01-2005, 03:23 PM
Oh......him.:confused:
He's the guitarist from Freak Kitchen, if you (or anyone else) wants you could post your email and I'll send a few tracks. I'd really recommend giving him a try.

I love the way JP uses themes and vocal melodies from Metropolis Pt 1 as guitar solos in Pt 2.
Me too, especially when he throws little variations on them.

I like SFOAM better than awake... I just can't get into awake at all except space dye vest, which is magnificent.
I personally think Scenes From A Memory is kind of boring, there's a couple of great tracks but there's too many tracks that (for me) bring the story along but fail to intrest me on a musical level. Awake is by far my favourite Dream Theater album because it all intrests me musically. At least we have some common ground on 'Space Dye Vest' though.

scenesfromatheater
11-01-2005, 03:36 PM
Voices is the only song that I enjoy on Awake, I got into it cause it goes from Octavarium to that on Once In a Livetime on winamp, so I always listen to it.

Lord Abortion
11-01-2005, 03:46 PM
51. Tool is NOT prog. If anyone insists they are, kill them.
/prepares knife

scenesfromatheater
11-01-2005, 03:49 PM
I'm not sure what I'd class Tool as. hmmmm....

red barchetta
11-01-2005, 04:35 PM
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence tickles my fancy quite well.
6 degrees > other DT albums IMO.

blind faith and disappear are great songs

scenesfromatheater
11-01-2005, 04:40 PM
6 degrees > other DT albums IMO.

blind faith and disappear are great songs

The Glass Prison is the best song (on 6DOIT) IMO, after that it's got to be the song 6 Degrees.