Dream Theater

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My vote goes to Mxtropolis: Thread From a Memory.

[Cain]

Edited.

1.) 4
2.) 0
3.) 4
4.) 7
5.) 2
6.) 0

Obi Wan, did you mean number four or number two?

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Edited.

1.) 4
2.) 0
3.) 4
4.) 7
5.) 2
6.) 0

Obi Wan, did you mean number four or number two?

Four.

[GenuineImitation]

How long is the voting going to continue before we get a new thread title?

[Cain]

How long is the voting going to continue before we get a new thread title?

I'm not sure. I think that a clear winner will become apparent soon, or maybe we'll just work out a compromise.

As of right now, IMO, the fourth option is the clear winner. The rest of you guys seem divided amongst the other choices.

EDIT: Let's keep it going for another 24 hours. The "poll" will close then.

[GenuineImitation]

I'm not sure. I think that a clear winner will become apparent soon, or maybe we'll just work out a compromise.

As of right now, IMO, the fourth option is the clear winner. The rest of you guys seem divided amongst the other choices.

EDIT: Let's keep it going for another 24 hours. The "poll" will close then.


Sounds good.

[GenuineImitation]

Bump so voting can continue.

[nowitzki]

I'm happy with number four, but I think MXtropolis Pt 2: Thread From A Memory sounds a lot better than MXtropolis Pt 2: Scenes Of A Thread

[Darkness]

Thread of Eternity blows them all away. :D

[Deth]

Thread of Eternity blows them all away. :D
The Canuck who mocks Godhead's Lament shall have no opinion.

[Darkness]

The Canuck who mocks Godhead's Lament shall have no opinion.
...:upset:

So what, you don't see the magic in Face Of Melinda, one of the bands best songs. :angry:

[Cain]

I'm happy with number four, but I think MXtropolis Pt 2: Thread From A Memory sounds a lot better than MXtropolis Pt 2: Scenes Of A Thread

Why? I could change it, if that's what it came to, but I'm a little confused.

[Deth]

I see the magic in it. That discussion arose out of your unwillingness to admit the greatness of A Fair Judgement.

[Darkness]

I see the magic in it. That discussion arose out of your unwillingness to admit the greatness of A Fair Judgement.
What? I love that song.

[Deth]

I think I said it was their best acoustic riff, and the jarring began. Anyway, let's leave the Opeth talk to the official thread.

[Darkness]

I think I said it was their best acoustic riff, and the jarring began. Anyway, let's leave the Opeth talk to the official thread.
If your referring to that middle peice, thats my favorite part of the song. But yes, we have another thread for this..

[HazMan]

the glass prison anyone?

[GenuineImitation]

the glass prison anyone?


What about it?

[Toaster]

the glass prison anyone?

I really don't like Labrie's vocals on some parts of that song. The solo is really awesome though, not too flashy yet really funky. Apparently the song was inspired by a Pantera concert Petrucci and Portnoy attended.

[Up The Irons]

i dont like his vocals on a lot of the songs


but has anybody seen the setlists for the "Evening With" leg? It is very nice

[GenuineImitation]

The glass prison is a amazing song. The whole thing fits together so nicely. I like La Brie's voice in the song, as I do in most DT songs.

[Darkness]

His vocals do get annoy me once in a while... but when they do the trade off thing vocally on TGP, its awesome.

[GenuineImitation]

His vocals do get annoy me once in a while... but when they do the trade off thing vocally on TGP, its awesome.


Thats my favorite part of the song, other than the solo.

[Lord Abortion]

Are they not doing A fortune in lies on this tour?
Or is it the killing hand I saw on the setlist?

[Happy]

i dont like his vocals on a lot of the songs


but has anybody seen the setlists for the "Evening With" leg? It is very nice
I'm keeping it a surprise until I see them... tomorrow.

[GenuineImitation]

Are they not doing A fortune in lies on this tour?
Or is it the killing hand I saw on the setlist?

Where did you find a setlist?

[Lord Abortion]

It was in here a while back I think

[Cain]

All right, dudes, it doesn't seem like there's much more voting going on. Everybody cool with "MXtropolis Part II: Scenes of a Thread?"

Or do you want the same thing except with "Thread from a Memory?"

[Lord Abortion]

All right, dudes, it doesn't seem like there's much more voting going on. Everybody cool with "MXtropolis Part II: Scenes of a Thread?"

Or do you want the same thing except with "Thread from a Memory?"
Maybe the second one...

[scenesfromatheater]

Sounds cool to me. I think it should be Thread of Thought though cause someone great called scenesfromatheater made it:naughty: ....he's awsome.

[Darkness]

Thread from a Memory sounds better, IMO. Rolls off the tounge easier..

[Cain]

Sounds cool to me. I think it should be Thread of Thought though cause someone great called scenesfromatheater made it:naughty: ....he's awsome.

It wasn't a bad suggestion, it got quite a few votes. No worries. :)

It seemed like a lot of people were pushing for "Thread from a memory," so we'll go with that. A nice compromise.

[scenesfromatheater]

So how is it going to be changed, will it be the same thread just re-named, or is there going to be a fresh one?:confused:

[Cain]

So how is it going to be changed, will it be the same thread just re-named, or is there going to be a fresh one?:confused:

No, it'll be the same thread. The mods can rename it. I just asked in the Report Problems thread.

[Ad Absurdum]

The name got changed :cool:

/is going to see Dream Theater tomorrow :D

[scenesfromatheater]

Dream Theater on Wednesday.....yyyeeessssssssss....I've been waiting so long for this.

[Darkness]

I still don't like the MXtropolis part, but its still good.

[RNR]

Guys, that's by far the most forced out of any of the thread names.

I've been enjoying the Live at Budakan cd. They're even more amazing live.

[Lord Abortion]

Guys, that's by far the most forced out of any of the thread names.

I've been enjoying the Live at Budakan cd. They're even more amazing live.
I'm enjoying your avatar.

That's one evil Geddy!

I don't like the LATB setlist all that much...maybe it's just me.

Other than the TOT stuff, there isn't that much to reccommend on there.

/awaits denouncement

[MAthiAS]

Guys, that's by far the most forced out of any of the thread names.
That's because Cain screwed up and left out Thread of Eternity, then added it after most voted.

[nowitzki]

I'm happy with the new thread title.
And even happier about the fact that by this time Tuesday night I will have seen 6 hours of live Dream Theater :D

[RNR]

I don't like the LATB setlist all that much...maybe it's just me.




Neither do I but I still like it. There's nothing from Awake, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance, only 1 song from SFAM, no A Change of Seasons :(. That was their whoring Train of Thought show.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, I love the TOT stuff on there, I just think the choice of the other songs is strange...

Only 1 I&W song too...

[GenuineImitation]

I like the new thread title. I wish Thread of though won, but this was my second choice.

[RNR]

Yeah, I was going to mention the lack of I&W songs as we;;/

[Cain]

Guys, that's by far the most forced out of any of the thread names.

If you guys really want, you can have it be "Thread of Eternity." I don't really care one way or the other.

Sorry I forgot it. :(

[RNR]

It's not that bad, actually. Atleast it's better than the Slayer thread title.

[Darkness]

If you guys really want, you can have it be "Thread of Eternity." I don't really care one way or the other.

Sorry I forgot it. :(
I prefer Thread of Eternity, personally... but I'll forgive you if it doesn't change. :)

[Deth]

Sweet title.

[bwnstl]

Holy Christ, I just watched the commentary audio of Metropolis: Scenes from New York. Here are my comments.
1) Mike Portnoy should never be allowed to direct again. For some reason he thinks all those retarded effects are cool.
2) They are mostly a bunch of dorks who aren't funny when they're trying to be.
3) I would be pissed if I was Myung or LaBrie. It seems like every time they tried to start talking Portnoy would interrupt them and go off on another tangent.
4) Rudess is actually the most entertaining and interesting member to listen to, although musically he's my least favorite. (Leave the shredding to Petrucci and write some decent music for gods-sake. [Oh well, at least he got "Disappear" right.])
5) Was I mistaken or did Portnoy say something borderline racist on there? When the choir comes out he said something like "well, i guess I know where the chicken fried [something] went"

Overall it was pretty entertaining, but those things just really annoyed the hell out of me.

[Tails]

Neither do I but I still like it. There's nothing from Awake, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance, only 1 song from SFAM, no A Change of Seasons :(. That was their whoring Train of Thought show.

Umm...
Track listing

5. War Inside My Head
6. Test That Stumped Them All
13. Goodnight Kiss
14. Solitary Shell
16. Disappear

Keeping in Mind it was the Riding the Train of Thought World tour.

:p

[RNR]

:eek:

I must have meant something else.

[Lord Abortion]

Yeah, they had all that 6DOT stuff on there, and missed Misunderstood, which has to be the best track on there out... :(

[Aberrationbass]

is portnoy been doing drum solos lately
has any of them been doing solos on tour lately
by this i don't mean in songs but induvidual solos on stage
Lets get ready to rumble.............

[Triangle]

is portnoy been doing drum solos lately
has any of them been doing solos on tour lately
by this i don't mean in songs but induvidual solos on stage
Lets get ready to rumble.............
He didn't do one last night I can say that, but non the less, his drumming was superb.

[Firecracker]

NP: Octavarium

I want a Jordan Rudess Continuum.

[scenesfromatheater]

2) They are mostly a bunch of dorks who aren't funny when they're trying to be.
3) I would be pissed if I was Myung or LaBrie. It seems like every time they tried to start talking Portnoy would interrupt them and go off on another tangent.
4) Rudess is actually the most entertaining and interesting member to listen to, although musically he's my least favorite. (Leave the shredding to Petrucci and write some decent music for gods-sake. [Oh well, at least he got "Disappear" right.])

My response:

2)Shut up. Myung is the coolest man alive. No question.:cool:
3)I don't think I've ever heard Myung ever try and speak, the only time he does, it's because someone asks him a question, and even then he gives a witty answer like "What you playing there John?", "Bass".
4)Shut up.

[Happy]

4) Rudess is actually the most entertaining and interesting member to listen to, although musically he's my least favorite. (Leave the shredding to Petrucci and write some decent music for gods-sake. [Oh well, at least he got "Disappear" right.])

He was scaring me last night with his shiny head.
<<UT :D:D:D

[scenesfromatheater]

He was scaring me last night with his shiny head.
<<UT :D:D:D

GRRRRR... ah well I'm seeing them tommorow standing. I shall be right at the front and will be blinded by JR's bald head.

[Happy]

His beard too... See if you can contain the laughter when he first walks out.
And have fun tomorrow.

[bwnstl]

My response:

2)Shut up. Myung is the coolest man alive. No question.:cool:
3)I don't think I've ever heard Myung ever try and speak, the only time he does, it's because someone asks him a question, and even then he gives a witty answer like "What you playing there John?", "Bass".
4)Shut up.

My response:
2) Notice that Myung was not included in that statement since he barely ever spoke.
3) See #2. Also, I was mainly talking about LaBrie. There were a few times when he started speaking and was interrupted by Portnoy, although that happened I think once or twice with Myung as well. Also, I don't remember that quote.
4) Shut up? That's all you've got? Dream Theater's my favorite band, but at least I'm not a fanboy who can't accept criticism of them. It's the truth, Rudess may make impressive music, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's GOOD. I've learned that I much prefer Kevin Moore's style. He could shred too, but at least he kept it tasteful and not on every song. Instead, he focused on writing good music.

[Ad Absurdum]

Well I'm home and hungover from the gig last night and it was pretty great. They played a wide setlist with stuff from every album (and even some pre-WDADU track that I haven't heard before. Unfortunately, the night was kind of ruined because me and my friends waited outside in the rain for almost an hour in the rain wearing only a t-shirt and a kilt and the band just drove by without even waving :( (Although my friend did wheek up his kilt and flash them :lol:)

[Happy]

Maybe Myung's just shy, he doesn't talk much or move about much on stage.

[bwnstl]

Oh most definitely. I think he's shy and just doesn't have a problem being the guy in the background playing bass, which a lot of bass players get stereotyped for.

[Happy]

Has anyone actually seen Myung express any emotion?

[Chu]

He crash tackled James LaBrie. :D

He's so pro.

[scenesfromatheater]

He crash tackled James LaBrie. :D

He's so pro.

For money, he knows some dodgy dealers.

[the2stranger]

He crash tackled James LaBrie. :D

He's so pro.

that rocked :D

I would love to go to a bar and have a convo with Myung, I think it would be interesting to say the least :)

[Lord Abortion]

Myung Pwns, screw you Bwnstl.

Next tour, next tour...

Oh BTW, why go and see a band wearing a kilt?
that's just silly.

[Happy]

Myung Pwns, screw you Bwnstl.

Next tour, next tour...

Oh BTW, why go and see a band wearing a kilt?
that's just silly.
My mate practically went in a pair of curtains that he calls a coat, I'll try and get a pic for you to show his stupidity.

[Tails]

My response:
2) Notice that Myung was not included in that statement since he barely ever spoke.
3) See #2. Also, I was mainly talking about LaBrie. There were a few times when he started speaking and was interrupted by Portnoy, although that happened I think once or twice with Myung as well. Also, I don't remember that quote.
4) Shut up? That's all you've got? Dream Theater's my favorite band, but at least I'm not a fanboy who can't accept criticism of them. It's the truth, Rudess may make impressive music, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's GOOD. I've learned that I much prefer Kevin Moore's style. He could shred too, but at least he kept it tasteful and not on every song. Instead, he focused on writing good music.

I agree with you about the KevMo Rudess thing. I still think they should have kept Derek in the band. I was listening to ACoS the other day and really loving what he did with the keys throughout the whole band. The thing I don't like about Rudess is that he is capable of playing great music, as seen from his solo CD's but when he goes into DT, he just puts it in full on shred mode which doesn't always work.

[scenesfromatheater]

I am on the phone to my bro listneing to DT play right NOW. They are playing The Mirror now and have just finished playing the Root of All Evil. Sounds awsome....ooohhhhh...they've just started to play Lie now.

[scenesfromatheater]

I agree with you about the KevMo Rudess thing. I still think they should have kept Derek in the band. I was listening to ACoS the other day and really loving what he did with the keys throughout the whole band. The thing I don't like about Rudess is that he is capable of playing great music, as seen from his solo CD's but when he goes into DT, he just puts it in full on shred mode which doesn't always work.

Moore wrote the keyboards to ACOS before he left.

[Tails]

Moore wrote the keyboards to ACOS before he left.

Sherinian did add some parts to it, the solos are all his, but the rest is KevMo's if I recall correctly.

[GenuineImitation]

I am on the phone to my bro listneing to DT play right NOW. They are playing The Mirror now and have just finished playing the Root of All Evil. Sounds awsome....ooohhhhh...they've just started to play Lie now.


Thats cool.

Do you plan on listening to the whole concert like that? If you do, that will be one expensive phone call.

[Happy]

Thats cool.

Do you plan on listening to the whole concert like that? If you do, that will be one expensive phone call.
Whatever the cost it's worth it.

[GenuineImitation]

Whatever the cost it's worth it.


That statement could not be more truthfull.

[temporary]

Well I'm home and hungover from the gig last night and it was pretty great. They played a wide setlist with stuff from every album (and even some pre-WDADU track that I haven't heard before. Unfortunately, the night was kind of ruined because me and my friends waited outside in the rain for almost an hour in the rain wearing only a t-shirt and a kilt and the band just drove by without even waving :( (Although my friend did wheek up his kilt and flash them :lol:)

Glad you had a good time, although that sucks about waiting. Mind posting what their set list was?

[bwnstl]

Myung Pwns, screw you Bwnstl.

Next tour, next tour...

Oh BTW, why go and see a band wearing a kilt?
that's just silly.

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL. I NEVER SAID MYUNG SUCKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. He's my favorite bassist and member of DT, so everyone shut the hell up.

[temporary]

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL. I NEVER SAID MYUNG SUCKED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. He's my favorite bassist and member of DT, so everyone shut the hell up.

Yeah guys, seriously, get off his back. He never insulted Myung, I actually thought he was giving him a plug (saying he should be talking instead of Portney.)

[bwnstl]

Yeah guys, seriously, get off his back. He never insulted Myung, I actually thought he was giving him a plug (saying he should be talking instead of Portney.)

EXACTLY. Thank you.

[TojesDolan]

I don't know about Myung. He's a great technical player indeed... but I don't know. SOmething bugs me.

Maybe it's his long hair and slinted eyes.

[Lord Abortion]

I'm going to listen to all of ToT now :cool:

[scenesfromatheater]

Thats cool.

Do you plan on listening to the whole concert like that? If you do, that will be one expensive phone call.

I was on the phone for about 20 minutes listening to the first three songs. And I've been ringing him throughout the night to see what they're are playing. I heard the start of These Walls and it sounded awsome. I also heard some of JR's keyboard solo. Heard a bit of The Killing Hand aswell.

Just wanted to know what I'd be in for tommorow night at Wolverhampton:naughty: .

[scenesfromatheater]

I'm going to listen to all of ToT now :cool:

Good man:thumb:

[Lord Abortion]

Good man:thumb:
coming to the end of this dying soul, it reminds me why I love this album so much...

[3rdplanet]

I was on the phone for about 20 minutes listening to the first three songs. And I've been ringing him throughout the night to see what they're are playing. I heard the start of These Walls and it sounded awsome. I also heard some of JR's keyboard solo. Heard a bit of The Killing Hand aswell.

Just wanted to know what I'd be in for tommorow night at Wolverhampton:naughty: .

I hope they play These Walls at Wolverhampton

/is going to Wolverhampton also

Do you know long they have been playing for?

[Scythe404]

1) Mike Portnoy should never be allowed to direct again. For some reason he thinks all those retarded effects are cool.

See the Budokan DVD. He very much knows how to direct now, if he didn't then. The direction of that concert is fantastic.

[shamed-angel]

Well I'm home and hungover from the gig last night and it was pretty great. They played a wide setlist with stuff from every album (and even some pre-WDADU track that I haven't heard before. Unfortunately, the night was kind of ruined because me and my friends waited outside in the rain for almost an hour in the rain wearing only a t-shirt and a kilt and the band just drove by without even waving :( (Although my friend did wheek up his kilt and flash them :lol:)
That was 'Another Won'. The first song they ever wrote together. Originally it was an instrumental. But on the Majesty Demos, they recorded it with vocals. Which aren't the same as they are now for some reason.
I agree with you about the KevMo Rudess thing. I still think they should have kept Derek in the band. I was listening to ACoS the other day and really loving what he did with the keys throughout the whole band. The thing I don't like about Rudess is that he is capable of playing great music, as seen from his solo CD's but when he goes into DT, he just puts it in full on shred mode which doesn't always work.
But his only album with the band was their worst? Falling into Infinity= Wank.

P.S I got Portnoy's water bottle. :)

[Happy]

Do you know long they have been playing for?
Years: 20
or if you mean how long they play the gig for
roughly 3 hours 8-11 with a 15 minute break.

[GenuineImitation]

Years: 20
or if you mean how long they play the gig for
roughly 3 hours 8-11 with a 15 minute break.

20 years? Wow, I thought it was 18.

[Happy]

20 years? Wow, I thought it was 18.
That's what they said, that the tour's their 20th anniversary/octavarium tour.

[shamed-angel]

I was on the phone for about 20 minutes listening to the first three songs. And I've been ringing him throughout the night to see what they're are playing. I heard the start of These Walls and it sounded awsome. I also heard some of JR's keyboard solo. Heard a bit of The Killing Hand aswell.

Just wanted to know what I'd be in for tommorow night at Wolverhampton:naughty: .
But that's nothing like what they played last night? Their setlists change every time they play. When were you on the phone? Tonight? Or last night?

[3rdplanet]

Years: 20
or if you mean how long they play the gig for
roughly 3 hours 8-11 with a 15 minute break.

Ah I was wondering about the play time of their last two gigs in England, - the threes hours thing, didn't know they had been together for 20 years though :amaze: That's longer than I have been alive.

[Lord Abortion]

Haha, the "Don't cross the crooked step!" bit in honour thy father is awesome...

[scenesfromatheater]

But that's nothing like what they played last night? Their setlists change every time they play. When were you on the phone? Tonight? Or last night?

Tonight (second London show). Me bro said they played a song off every album last night which would be cool at Wolverhampton.

Haha, I'm watching the making of TOT, and it's awsome. JR hits the last note of the album after ITNOG with his nose. It makes me laugh every time....ahhhh....Rudess, what a guy.

[shamed-angel]

Dude, where'd you get that from?

[Happy]

Haha, the "Don't cross the crooked step!" bit in honour thy father is awesome...
don't mean to rub it in but live they changed the end of the chorus of As I am from "Take me as I am" to "lick my *** and balls" I found that highly humorous

[shamed-angel]

I thought that was ****ing ridiculous...

[scenesfromatheater]

Dude, where'd you get that from?

My bro sent it me, I think he might have got it off the MP forums. As you may have noticed, my bro is a good man.:thumb:

[shamed-angel]

Could you send it to me? Pleease? :upset:

[scenesfromatheater]

You got AIM?

[shamed-angel]

Yeh
I'm Change_of_Seasons_89@hotmail.com
I'll add you now.

[Happy]

I thought that was ****ing ridiculous...
I'm immature at heart, I find things like that funny.

[scenesfromatheater]

Haha, did JR wear a beanie tonight? Cause me bro said he was, obviously he had many complaints from blinded DT fans on the front row.

[shamed-angel]

Mike got rid of Jose? :amaze: That's not cool. I always thought he was a clone using John Myung's left over elbow skin anyway.
Doesn't Jordan's new beard look like Abe Lincon?

[Happy]

Haha, did JR wear a beanie tonight? Cause me bro said he was, obviously he had many complaints from blinded DT fans on the front row.
hahaha I wish I could've gone tonight as well. He was scaring me because he was looking and smiling at random people in the crowd and they weren't even looking at him.

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeh
I'm Change_of_Seasons_89@hotmail.com
I'll add you now.

What's your AIM address? I can't get onto MSN cause its screwed up.

[shamed-angel]

Ummmm
What's AIM?
Sorry... I thought MSN was AIM.

[scenesfromatheater]

hahaha I wish I could've gone tonight as well. He was scaring me because he was looking and smiling at random people in the crowd and they weren't even looking at him.

He is a crazy guy. I can't wait to see them tommorow. Hopefully I'll get to the front cause it's standing.

[Happy]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b248/RaisedonVodka/rudess.jpg
that's what his new beard kinda looks like. I added head shine too.

[scenesfromatheater]

Has JR changed his beard then? I thought it was still like it was on Budokan.

[Happy]

Has JR changed his beard then? I thought it was still like it was on Budokan.
You'll find out soon enough, unless he shaves it off.

Off-topic: I want my hair like Petrucci has it now but everyone thinks I'm joking :(

[Lord Abortion]

don't mean to rub it in but live they changed the end of the chorus of As I am from "Take me as I am" to "lick my *** and balls" I found that highly humorous
I hate you:upset:

[shamed-angel]

He looked really gay last night...

[scenesfromatheater]

Petrucci looks awsome now, he looks like the guitar freak he is.

[shamed-angel]

Nah, he wears massive goth boots and really nu-metal trousers.

[scenesfromatheater]

Yeesh.

[Happy]

I hate you:upset:
I'm sorry. :(

[Lord Abortion]

I'm sorry. :(
OK, now I like you again:)

[scenesfromatheater]

OK, now I like you again:)

ahhhh....all is at peace in the DT thread.

[Tails]

But his only album with the band was their worst? Falling into Infinity= Wank.

FII isn't that bad of an album at all. After the Masterpieces that were I&W, Awake and ACoS I can definately see it being a huge letdown, however in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty decent.

Trial of Tears for the win.

And besides, with FII Atlantic was screwing them around at the time, it was supposed to be a completely different record before Atlantic started hacking and slashing at it.

[classicrockman]

FII isn't that bad of an album at all. After the Masterpieces that were I&W, Awake and ACoS I can definately see it being a huge letdown, however in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty decent.

Trial of Tears for the win.

And besides, with FII Atlantic was screwing them around at the time, it was supposed to be a completely different record before Atlantic started hacking and slashing at it.
I thought 'Falling Into Infinity' was alright also. Different side of DT, but nevertheless...good.

[bwnstl]

Great songs on FII: New Millenium, Peruvian Skies, Burning My Soul, Lines in the Sand, Trial of Tears. That's 5 great songs on an 11 track album. By no means groundbreaking, but still a decent album nonetheless.

[Triangle]

After last night I can safely say Theresa Thompson for the win. :cool:

[shamed-angel]

FII isn't that bad of an album at all. After the Masterpieces that were I&W, Awake and ACoS I can definately see it being a huge letdown, however in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty decent.

Trial of Tears for the win.

And besides, with FII Atlantic was screwing them around at the time, it was supposed to be a completely different record before Atlantic started hacking and slashing at it.
I think some songs are brilliant. But they didn't have complte artistic control over their music and Desmond Child co-wrote a few songs on it. Trial of Tears, Hell's Kitchen and Peruvian Skies are amazing. But I think that the fact that the record were "exerting pressure in the band to make it more commercial" (according to the programme from the gig on monday night) and I think that ruined the album. OnceInALIVEtime is also IMO their worst live album. It's not bad by any means, just not as good as their other 3.

However, Derek Sherinian played on my favourite song of all time "Change of Seasons", the solos he plays on there are class and the sheer fact that he played on it makes him worthy of my respect. He's also very arrogant on
5YearsinaLIVEtime.

Has anyone here heard the original version on ACOS? It's on "Images and Words Demos" from YTSE Jam.com And It's really weird. It has a guy called Chris Cintron on it, and apparently he's the one who helped to shape alot of the vocal melodies in the song.

[red barchetta]

I think some songs are brilliant. But they didn't have complte artistic control over their music and Desmond Child co-wrote a few songs on it. Trial of Tears, Hell's Kitchen and Peruvian Skies are amazing. But I think that the fact that the record were "exerting pressure in the band to make it more commercial" (according to the programme from the gig on monday night) and I think that ruined the album. OnceInALIVEtime is also IMO their worst live album. It's not bad by any means, just not as good as their other 3.

However, Derek Sherinian played on my favourite song of all time "Change of Seasons", the solos he plays on there are class and the sheer fact that he played on it makes him worthy of my respect. He's also very arrogant on
5YearsinaLIVEtime.


finally, someone mentions hell's kitchen as a highlight from FII :cool: .

i agree with everything you said in that post

[shamed-angel]

finally, someone mentions hell's kitchen as a highlight from FII :cool: .

i agree with everything you said in that post
The instrumental ending is one of the most majestic, brilliant and overall, satisfying pieces of music they have ever written.

[Lord of Sword]

i like FII, it is different but it seems more melodic and was obviously a totally different direction from Awake. most of the songs are ok, but it also has some of my favourite DT songs like take away my pain, hell's kitchen and trial of tears. plus some of my favourite petrucci solos, especially peruvian skies and take away my pain. not really on the same level as most of DT's other releases but it is still a very good album.

[scenesfromatheater]

I really can't stand the album. The only song I enjoy listening to is Peruvian Skies. Trial of Tears is good but I just find so boring after the first few minutes.

[nowitzki]

Words cannot do justice the shows I witnessed Monday and Tuesday night.

Best shows ever, no question.

I might post a full review later, don't have time right now.

[the2stranger]

good good!!

I wish I wnet, but I had no means of transport :(
looking forward to the review :thumb:

[scenesfromatheater]

It won't be as good as my review from the gig tonight:thumb:

[Lord Abortion]

I just got live scenes from new york on DVD for £8.99 :D

[the2stranger]

I just got live scenes from new york on DVD for £8.99 :D

good
the normal cd still costs 21€(!) in my area :(

[Triangle]

Words cannot do justice the shows I witnessed Monday and Tuesday night.

Best shows ever, no question.

I might post a full review later, don't have time right now.
They were mindblowing weren't they. :p Learning To Live live = omfg :eek:

[Happy]

good
the normal cd still costs 21€(!) in my area :(
Yeah the Euro's yet to enslave us here :cool:

[GenuineImitation]

Tonight (second London show). Me bro said they played a song off every album last night which would be cool at Wolverhampton.

Haha, I'm watching the making of TOT, and it's awsome. JR hits the last note of the album after ITNOG with his nose. It makes me laugh every time....ahhhh....Rudess, what a guy.


Can you send it to me please?

My AIM is rock15guitarist

[Lord Abortion]

I'm sitting here thinking of reasons why I'm not going to see them...

I have none- I suck:(

[shamed-angel]

Aww bless... You can have my memory :)

A quick topic for people to discuss. if you could see Dream Theater perform a cover of any album in it's entirety at a gig, which album would it be?
Mine is definately In The Court of The Crimson King by King Crimson.

[Lord Abortion]

Aww bless... You can have my memory :)
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to shamed-angel again.
Blast it!

Uh... Something wicked this way comes by Iced earth.

[shamed-angel]

You're a really nice guy. Albeit a bit stupid for not seeing DT, you could at least HAVE a reason not to go. :p

[GenuineImitation]

Aww bless... You can have my memory :)

A quick topic for people to discuss. if you could see Dream Theater perform a cover of any album in it's entirety at a gig, which album would it be?
Mine is definately In The Court of The Crimson King by King Crimson.


Mine would either be In the Court of The Crimson King, 2112, The Wall or The Number of the Beast.

[shamed-angel]

They did TNOTB a while back. www.ytsejamrecords.com has it on sale.

[GenuineImitation]

They did TNOTB a while back. www.ytsejamrecords.com has it on sale.


I know, I just want to see them do it in person.

[Lord Abortion]

You're a really nice guy. Albeit a bit stupid for not seeing DT, you could at least HAVE a reason not to go. :p
I kinda do, I would find it difficult to get to Wolverhampton, I have been to alot of gigs this year and I'm short of cash, and my lack of people to go with but I know in my heart of hearts I could have gone if I had really made the effort.

[Reywas]

I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.

[shamed-angel]

I kinda do, I would find it difficult to get to Wolverhampton, I have been to alot of gigs this year and I'm short of cash, and my lack of people to go with but I know in my heart of hearts I could have gone if I had really made the effort.

I went from Cardiff, on my own, by train. And then the next day I saw Westminster Abbey, it was amazing. Then I came home cause I had work this morning 9 til 9.
I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.
No. Just No.

[GenuineImitation]

I dont think James could pull off singing Opeth. Maybe the mellower parts, but then again, I have never heard him growl.

[Reywas]

I think he has potential.

[Darkness]

I would love seeing Dream Theater do some Opeth songs live.James the Growler.
They would fail, and not just James. Petrucci couldn't do both guitar parts (let alone only one part, and have the same feel as Mikeal or Peter) Myung could do the bass, and Portnoy would have a hell of a lot of trouble doing some of Martins parts.

[Cain]

Basically, Dream Theater trying to do Opeth would have similar results to a Magna Carta label prog-metal band trying to do Rush.

[Lord Abortion]

Speaking of Rush, perhaps they could do 2112 or test for echo well...

[shamed-angel]

Speaking of Rush, perhaps they could do 2112 or test for echo well...
They did 2112 last year in Paris... Only the song though.

[Lord Abortion]

I know a few Rush fans that would swear on Geddy's life that Test for echo is the best thing they ever did.

Eddie-the-trooper/Heavy Bass Dude for one...

[Cain]

I know a few Rush fans that would swear on Geddy's life that Test for echo is the best thing they ever did.

That's bullshit, Test for Echo sucks.

[Lord Abortion]

That's bullshit, Test for Echo sucks.
I dunno, I have just heard Exit...stage left.

I'm just going off a certain young Norwegian's reccommendation.:p

[Cain]

I dunno, I have just heard Exit...stage left.

I'm just going off a certain young Norwegian's reccommendation.:p

I mean, a few songs on it are ok, but in general, the lyrics are bad and the vocal melodies are worse, and it's falsely marketed as a return to Rush's hard-rocking days complete with better solos, but that's not really true: "Counterparts" did those things much better. The lyrics still stunk and the vocal melodies were still iffy, but the band played like crazy. Lifeson even shredded, something he almost never did.

[nowitzki]

Sorry about the big post, hopefully some of you can be bothered to read it.

OK then. Monday night was the best gig I had ever been to. Tuesday was even better.

The apollo was almost full, I hear the shows were sold out both nights.
When the house lights went the place was electric. The opening drums from The Root Of All Evil were played, with flashes of huge 3D octavarium balls. Then the song kicked in and we were rolling, a great opener. They then followed with Panic Attack, John Myung starting it off with the bass intro, that guy is so unbelieveably cool.

The screen then showed ToT tour intro video (its a bonus feature on the Budokan DVD), but it was in reverse and went back through all the years, to 1985 and the Majesty days. They then played a song from that period, and a song from each album in chronological order up until the intermission. Highlights included Peruvian Skies which contained instrumental sections from Floyd's WYWH, and Metallica's Wherever I May Roam.

After the intermission they came back with 2 songs from ToT, which went down excellently (tatically replacing the chorus "Take me as I am" with "Eat my *** and balls.)

They then finished the 2nd set with the final 3 songs from 8VM, concluding with the title track itself, which was breathtaking. The intro to this was JR soloing on what looked like a red pad which he ran his fingers across kind of like a keyboard but with no keys (sorry for the crap explanation of it, some one probably knows what it is.)

They then left the stage to a huge ovation, just to return for the encore of Pull Me Under and Metropolis (they started metropolis from the instrumental section and played it right through).

Incredible.

At the end MP spoke on the mic and said "We'll be back tomorrow with a completely different set", so I knew we were in for a treat.

On the 2nd night they opened with TROA once again, but other than that the set was completly different. They followed TROA with The Mirror and Lie. The first set also included the unreleased "Raise The Knife" which went down very well considering most people had probably never heard it. The first set finished with In The Name Of God, on of my personal favourite DT songs, superb.

Then it came, the moment we had been waiting for, DT covering DSOTM in full. Musical ecstasy. They played the whole album superbly, JP's playing really captured the mood of the songs like few other guitarists could do. Theresa Thompson (from LSFNY) came on to do Great Gig In The Sky. Her voice is just stunning, her performance couldn't have been better.
During Money we got a guest sax-player for the solo who is apparenlty is in Roger Water's band. The whole performance was flawless.

With the whole crowd reeeling from what they just witnessed it would seem impossible for them to come back with anything to match it. They managed however when the encore started with Theresa back out for the Spirit Carries On. The place was absolutely electric, the performance was superb, Labrie and Theresa both delivering stunning vocal perfoamances.

I could have gone home then and been happy to say I had seen the greatest night of music in my life. But then we hear the keyboard intro of Learning To Live. IMO this is possibly DT's greatest song, and this performance was definitely my highlight of the shows. The whole band were on top form, absolutely flawless.

People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)

As for the band being static, while they obviously don't run around like Maiden they are moving around and seem to be genuinlly enjoying what they are doing. JM and JP would wander over to each other to jam during certain songs, and they would take the centre stage for solos etc, (notably JM walking right to the front of the stage ready for the Metropolis bass solo :cool: .)

Sorry if I sound like a huge fanboy who worships the band, but.... well I guess I am :D

[GenuineImitation]

Sorry about the big post, hopefully some of you can be bothered to read it.

OK then. Monday night was the best gig I had ever been to. Tuesday was even better.

The apollo was almost full, I hear the shows were sold out both nights.
When the house lights went the place was electric. The opening drums from The Root Of All Evil were played, with flashes of huge 3D octavarium balls. Then the song kicked in and we were rolling, a great opener. They then followed with Panic Attack, John Myung starting it off with the bass intro, that guy is so unbelieveably cool.

The screen then showed ToT tour intro video (its a bonus feature on the Budokan DVD), but it was in reverse and went back through all the years, to 1985 and the Majesty days. They then played a song from that period, and a song from each album in chronological order up until the intermission. Highlights included Peruvian Skies which contained instrumental sections from Floyd's WYWH, and Metallica's Wherever I May Roam.

After the intermission they came back with 2 songs from ToT, which went down excellently (tatically replacing the chorus "Take me as I am" with "Eat my *** and balls.)

They then finished the 2nd set with the final 3 songs from 8VM, concluding with the title track itself, which was breathtaking. The intro to this was JR soloing on what looked like a red pad which he ran his fingers across kind of like a keyboard but with no keys (sorry for the crap explanation of it, some one probably knows what it is.)

They then left the stage to a huge ovation, just to return for the encore of Pull Me Under and Metropolis (they started metropolis from the instrumental section and played it right through).

Incredible.

At the end MP spoke on the mic and said "We'll be back tomorrow with a completely different set", so I knew we were in for a treat.

On the 2nd night they opened with TROA once again, but other than that the set was completly different. They followed TROA with The Mirror and Lie. The first set also included the unreleased "Raise The Knife" which went down very well considering most people had probably never heard it. The first set finished with In The Name Of God, on of my personal favourite DT songs, superb.

Then it came, the moment we had been waiting for, DT covering DSOTM in full. Musical ecstasy. They played the whole album superbly, JP's playing really captured the mood of the songs like few other guitarists could do. Theresa Thompson (from LSFNY) came on to do Great Gig In The Sky. Her voice is just stunning, her performance couldn't have been better.
During Money we got a guest sax-player for the solo who is apparenlty is in Roger Water's band. The whole performance was flawless.

With the whole crowd reeeling from what they just witnessed it would seem impossible for them to come back with anything to match it. They managed however when the encore started with Theresa back out for the Spirit Carries On. The place was absolutely electric, the performance was superb, Labrie and Theresa both delivering stunning vocal perfoamances.

I could have gone home then and been happy to say I had seen the greatest night of music in my life. But then we hear the keyboard intro of Learning To Live. IMO this is possibly DT's greatest song, and this performance was definitely my highlight of the shows. The whole band were on top form, absolutely flawless.

People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)

As for the band being static, while they obviously don't run around like Maiden they are moving around and seem to be genuinlly enjoying what they are doing. JM and JP would wander over to each other to jam during certain songs, and they would take the centre stage for solos etc, (notably JM walking right to the front of the stage ready for the Metropolis bass solo :cool: .)

Sorry if I sound like a huge fanboy who worships the band, but.... well I guess I am :D



I wish I could have seen them. Especially two nights in a row.

[Ad Absurdum]

People seem to criticise DT shows for two reasons generally 1- James' voice, and 2- they are too static on stage.

Well at these shows there were no signs of either of those points.
James' voice was absolutely incredible. Admitedly on some live albums his voice has been a bit sketchy, but in London it was just flawless. He also acted as a great fontman, getting the crowd involved and entertained (although he was off stage for the long instrumental sections.)
I totally agree an Jame's voice. He was incredible when I saw him (only the first night unfortunately, couldn't afford two nights away), notably in 'Under A Glass Moon'. He also pulled off the screams in 'Octavarium' pretty damn well as I thought this could be tricky for him live (and that part was a huge musical orgasm for me :D)

[shamed-angel]

I loved the way JM bowed after the Metropolis bass solo. My girlfriend told me off for singing too loudly for the whole thing. Her words being "Why can't you just listen." I was shocked. If I wanted to just listen, I'd have stayed at home, or outisde with my iPod.

****ing amazing band. My favourite ever, have been for the last 4 years. They played Another Won, then A Fortune in Lies. The instrument JR was playing was a continuum.
Not the best time I've seen them play, but still incredible.

[Ad Absurdum]

I loved the way JM bowed after the Metropolis bass solo. My girlfriend told me off for singing too loudly for the whole thing. Her words being "Why can't you just listen." I was shocked. If I wanted to just listen, I'd have stayed at home, or outisde with my iPod.

****ing amazing band. My favourite ever, have been for the last 4 years. They played Another Won, then A Fortune in Lies. The instrument JR was playing was a continuum.
Not the best time I've seen them play, but still incredible. I couldn't believe that JR managed to play the continuum with his right hand and accompany himself on keys with his left (without looking, it was during 'Never Enough' if I remember right). I caught his eye just after it and he gave me the biggest grin whilst I picked my jaw up from the floor.

Edit - Just got my pictures on my computer now :)

[nowitzki]

I couldn't believe that JR managed to play the continuum with his right hand and accompany himself on keys with his left (without looking, it was during 'Never Enough' if I remember right). I caught his eye just after it and he gave me the biggest grin whilst I picked my jaw up from the floor.

Edit - Just got my pictures on my computer now :)

Feel free to share :thumb:

[shamed-angel]

I have a few, but my girlfriend is in canada, and they're on her camera. I went up on my own, saw the show with her, stayed the night at a hotel, and then saw her off at about 8 in the morning. I then travelled around London and I CROSSED ABBEY ROAD!It was a great experience.

[nowitzki]

I have a few, but my girlfriend is in canada, and they're on her camera. I went up on my own, saw the show with her, stayed the night at a hotel, and then saw her off at about 8 in the morning. I then travelled around London and I CROSSED ABBEY ROAD!It was a great experience.

Me and my mate were thinking of doing that while in London, but weren't sure where abouts Abbey Road was :( . However we still managed to check out a lot of sights and also many pubs :chug:

[Ad Absurdum]

http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?sc=1
(anyone who gets the Insision reference is cool)

There's a few pics from the gig. I'm the spotty kid in the No Fear hat, the rest are my drunken friends. The pics of the band kinda suck because a) had to be fly taking the photos and b) I suck at taking photos anyway.

[Lord Abortion]

Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool...

[shamed-angel]

http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?sc=1
(anyone who gets the Insision reference is cool)

There's a few pics from the gig. I'm the spotty kid in the No Fear hat, the rest are my drunken friends. The pics of the band kinda suck because a) had to be fly taking the photos and b) I suck at taking photos anyway.
That was you? dude, I'm the guy that kept coming and going to the place diagonally infront of you. With the Images and Words Tshirt and long hair. The one with the Czechoslovakian Guy.

[nowitzki]

Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool...

I think it's just a normal England shirt, that majesty symbol is on one of the durms. It was really cool seeing him wearing that.

Here's a great selection of photos from both Monday and Tuesday:
http://www.woodee.co.uk/cgi-bin/dt_gallery/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_sub&path=Gigs&tn=1

[Ad Absurdum]

Is Mike seriously wearing an England shirt with the majesty symbol on it?!

That is beyond cool... Unfortunately he was :upset:
Edit - Just an England shirt sorry, my eyesight sucks.

That was you? dude, I'm the guy that kept coming and going to the place diagonally infront of you. With the Images and Words Tshirt. The one with the Czechoslovakian Guy. Hmm... you had long hair, your friend had short hair?

[shamed-angel]

Yeh, my I&W Tshirt had a black heart on the back. I was diagonally to your left.

[Lord Abortion]

Ah, I see, it's the fact that the drum looked the same colour as the shirt and camoflauged him.

[Ad Absurdum]

Yeh, my I&W Tshirt had a black heart on the back. I was diagonally to your left.
Awesome :chug:

[shamed-angel]

How are you? Did you enjoy? I had my camera confiscated as I went in, so I had to use my girlfriends. Sucks. I played air drums alot apparently :upset:

By The Way:- That wasn't actually my seat, we just went to go to the front and they said we couldn't just stand there, so we got into the nearest available seats.

[bizzare6543]

http://photobucket.com/albums/a299/beneaththefoldsofflesh/London%202005/?sc=1
(anyone who gets the Insision reference is cool)

There's a few pics from the gig. I'm the spotty kid in the No Fear hat, the rest are my drunken friends. The pics of the band kinda suck because a) had to be fly taking the photos and b) I suck at taking photos anyway.

What row were you in, cause I think I can see the back of my head in a few pics.

[Chu]

A few questions:
a) What songs do Petrucci/Portnoy sing on? and
b) Who does the vocal trade off with James at about 8:00 into The Glass Prison?

[shamed-angel]

a)Petrucci sings backing on Fatal Tragedy, Change of Seasons, Strange Deja Vu, quite a few songs reallyif you hear melodic backing voocals, like "Oohs" or "Aahs", then that's JP and MP.
b)That's Mike! The instrumental section after that is the only DT song I know with "Hey!"s in it. Did anyone else notice it? Apparently it's just James exhaling, but it sounded really cool, so they sampled it for that section.

[Chu]

So.. Why doesn't Mike sing for Dream Theater?

[shamed-angel]

He does. He does loads of backing vocals. Haven't you seen his really cool micstand attatched to the back of his kit? It swings round when he's about to sing. He does alot of the harmonised vocals with JP.

[RideTheSpiral]

He does the crappy vocals on As I Am.

[shamed-angel]

Haha, yeah. I really don't like the way they tried to utilise rapping into the songs on ToT. I don't like the way that they made a metal album, but in places, the only vocal style they could muster was to rap.

[Chu]

Heh, sorry, I don't usually notice different vocalists (But in TGP, ~8:00 I don't think it's possible for James to get that low and keep it deep/ish).

But where in As I Am does Portnoy sing? :D

[shamed-angel]

Heh, sorry, I don't usually notice different vocalists (But in TGP, ~8:00 I don't think it's possible for James to get that low and keep it deep/ish).

But where in As I Am does Portnoy sing? :D
That's Mike, I said earlier! The low bits are Mike and the high bits are James.
He sings the "Taking in the view from the outside." bit...

[Kirk's Puppet]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/bb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82514&perpage=15&pagenumber=4

Hilarious thread :lol:

[nowitzki]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/bb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82514&perpage=15&pagenumber=4

Hilarious thread :lol:

You can't view the thread unless you're logged in.

[Triangle]

http://www.dreamtheater.net/bb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82514&perpage=15&pagenumber=4

Hilarious thread :lol:
Ha yeah, that's a great picture.

[nowitzki]

Here's the pic for those not registered on there...

[Ad Absurdum]

How are you? Did you enjoy? I had my camera confiscated as I went in, so I had to use my girlfriends. Sucks. I played air drums alot apparently :upset:

By The Way:- That wasn't actually my seat, we just went to go to the front and they said we couldn't just stand there, so we got into the nearest available seats.
Ah yeah, one of my friends got his confiscated too. Me and my friend were sharing a camera and I stuck it in one of my many pockets so they didn't notice.

You did play air drums quite alot actually, but it was good to see someone else rocking out. Me and my friend started doing alot of air guitar later on, we could've got a mini-DT going on in there :lol:

[scenesfromatheater]

Yo, went to DT in Wolverhampton last night and I have to say it was rather good. Although at some points I would have fallen to sleep if it had not been standing. The definate low point of the gig was Sacrificed Sons and the intro to Octavarium, which I think must have lasted about 35 minutes altogether with JR's boring 10 minute intro on his new keyboard device. Apart from that it was awsome, especially Metropolis at the end. Also, I was dissapointed that they played Home as the song off SFAM, which I think is the worst.

Like at London they played a song off each album, starting with a Majesty song which I'm not sure of. Here is the set-list.

Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
? Majesty Song ?
Fortune In Lies
Under a Glass Moon
Caught In A Web
Peruvian Skies
Speak to Me(?B-side?)
Home - With added on Metallica - Memory Remains jam at the end.

Interval

The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium
Metropolis Pt. 1

Was a good gig, but as I said, the beginning of Octavarium just dragged on. JP was wearing some crazy 3/4 lengths that made him look about 15 years old. JR with his crazy new beard, he has a big organ next to his keyboard which looked like a bookcase to me. Myung looked as cool as ever. Portnoy throwing his sticks in the air, and his drumkit looks even bigger in real life than on the DVDs. JL looks really skinny in real life as well.

I also got my CD onto the stage so JP could have a listen, but he just kicked it away. Now I hate him:angry: .

The merch was over-priced but I still got a 20th Anniversary shirt (£20!!!) and a wrist band (£5). It was good though cause there were loads of different shirts outside for £5 so I got some of those aswell.

Shame on you all who haven't been to see DT or aren't going to, it isn't on to be missed.

[Deth]

Shame on you all who haven't been to see DT or aren't going to, it isn't on to be missed.
You make me sad.

[scenesfromatheater]

You make me sad.

GO AND SEE THEM NOW!

[Deth]

I wish I could. So badly.

[Lord of Sword]

i had my camera and wallet in my coat pocket, so there was quite a noticable buldge in my pocket. he never said a thing when i was searched though, i thought they'd just given up on confiscating cameras, seeing as most people have them on their phones now anyway.

i was glad they played home anyway, my favourite track off SFAM. besides that, peruvian skies, under a glass moon and metropolis were my favourite songs played. i did think JR's octavarium solo went on a bit too long aswell though. i bought both shirts after the gig, although some of the ones outside looked better, and a quarter of a cost. but then again the w h smiths transfers would probably wash off after a week and they apparently had the wrong dates on the back.

[scenesfromatheater]

Da mn chav gave me a XXL instead of a Large shirt outside, I might just hang it on my wall or something.

[shamed-angel]

They played Fatal Tragedy from SFAM on the 1st night in London. That was amazing. They pulled off the backing vocals really well, which sometimes have been quite potch. I spent way too much on merch though Fair dos.

[nowitzki]

I just bought a 20th anniversary tour poster, which is damn cool.
If I had a bit more money right now I would have got some more things, as the official merchandise was all very cool. And I didn't think any of the unofficial shirts outside looked that great, plus they were £10 in London, which is not that cheap for a shirt that's going to be crappy quality.

[shamed-angel]

Did you see the rasta outside shouting "I'll buy any spare tickets."? That would've made my night if I hadn't seen Dream Theater...

[scenesfromatheater]

the person I went with said before we went, "If they play Home for SFAM I'm gonna go crazy". Haha, then he tried to start a pit for it cause it's such a boring song.

[scenesfromatheater]

Did you see the rasta outside shouting "I'll buy any spare tickets."? That would've made my night if I hadn't seen Dream Theater...

Haha, I thought that at Wolverhampton. There was about 30 people selling tickets before the show.

[shamed-angel]

the person I went with said before we went, "If they play Home for SFAM I'm gonna go crazy". Haha, then he tried to start a pit for it cause it's such a boring song.
Did he get shitloads of people just looking at him. Like "What the **** are you up to mate?" I mean fair enough getting into a song, but getting into a song and spoiling it for everyone else sucks. I think I sung along a bit too loud cause my girlfriend got hella pissed that she could hear me over JLB.

[Ad Absurdum]

the person I went with said before we went, "If they play Home for SFAM I'm gonna go crazy". Haha, then he tried to start a pit for it cause it's such a boring song.
In my opinion that's probably the only song on Scenes From A Memory that I would call great. There's some other good song ('Fatal Tragedy', 'The Dance of Eternity', 'Finally Free') but 'Home' is alot better than the rest for me. In fact, it's probably my second favourite track (behind 'Scarred', which everyone else ignores for some reason).

[nowitzki]

Did you see the rasta outside shouting "I'll buy any spare tickets."? That would've made my night if I hadn't seen Dream Theater...

No, but I saw a tout in the shopping centre in Hammersmith who then somehow appeared again outside the Apollo a minute later. I have no idea how he got there that fast :confused:

[shamed-angel]

Well you got there that fast... he probably walked at the same velocity in the same direction as you?

In my opinion that's probably the only song on Scenes From A Memory that I would call great. There's some other good song ('Fatal Tragedy', 'The Dance of Eternity', 'Finally Free') but 'Home' is alot better than the rest for me. In fact, it's probably my second favourite track (behind 'Scarred', which everyone else ignores for some reason).
Scarred is amazing. That bass intro never fails to chill me to the bottom of my spine.
My favourite song on SFAM is definately One Last Time, the piano is just so beautiful.

[nowitzki]

In my opinion that's probably the only song on Scenes From A Memory that I would call great. There's some other good song ('Fatal Tragedy', 'The Dance of Eternity', 'Finally Free') but 'Home' is alot better than the rest for me. In fact, it's probably my second favourite track (behind 'Scarred', which everyone else ignores for some reason).

I agree Home is amazing, I don't understand why scenesfromatheater doesn't like it :confused:

and Scarred is excellent, easily my favourite song from Awake :thumb:

[scenesfromatheater]

He knows secret short cuts I bet:thumb:

[nowitzki]

Well you got there that fast... he probably walked at the same velocity in the same direction as you?


Yeah but he was just standing there both times asking people if they were buying/selling tickets.

[shamed-angel]

He probably just knows the place better than you.

[scenesfromatheater]

Why does anyone care?

[shamed-angel]

Because he's doing good work, trying to allow as many people as possible into a DT show... :lol:

[nowitzki]

Yeah, and ripping them off and making a profit at the same time...

[scenesfromatheater]

Isn't he also stopping people going in though, when it is sold out and he's bought loads of the tickets?

[shamed-angel]

Why the hell would he just buy them? He buys them with the intention of selling? He doesn't just like the taste of the paper...

[nowitzki]

Why the hell would he just buy them? He buys them with the intention of selling? He doesn't just like the taste of the paper...

Haha, burn!

[scenesfromatheater]

Do you know him or summit?

[shamed-angel]

No, I just know the purpose of touts... haha I'll shut up now :upset:

[nowitzki]

Do you know him or summit?

What a waste of the 4000th post in the DT thread!

[scenesfromatheater]

No, I just know the purpose of touts... haha I'll shut up now So shalt I, until someone says something of interest.

[scenesfromatheater]

What a waste of the 4000th post in the DT thread!

What a great guy who said it though:naughty: .

[shamed-angel]

Has anyone heard Transatlantic? One of MP's many side projects, with Neal Morse from Spock's Beard. Definately my favourite side project. They play a very retro style of prog, which reminds me of Yes, Genesis and a load of other classic prog bands. The band was formed in 1995 and comprises of:-
Neal Morse- Vocals, Keyboards, Guitars.
Mike Portnoy- Drums, Percussion, Vocals.
Roine Stolt- Guitar, Vocals.
Pete Trewavas- Bass and vocals.
The band released "Bridge Across Forever" in 1997. A fantastic prog album, by in my opinion, THE prog rock supergroup.

[nowitzki]

Has anyone heard Transatlantic? One of MP's many side projects, with Neal Morse from Spock's Beard. Definately my favourite side project. They play a very retro style of prog, which reminds me of Yes, Genesis and a load of other classic prog bands. The band was formed in 1995 and comprises of:-
Neal Morse- Vocals, Keyboards, Guitars.
Mike Portnoy- Drums, Percussion, Vocals.
Roine Stolt- Guitar, Vocals.
Pete Trewavas- Bass and vocals.
The band released "Bridge Across Forever" in 1997. A fantastic prog album, by in my opinion, THE prog rock supergroup.

I've heard of it, but don't yet have it. I definitely need to listen to it, sounds awesome.

and I just found out from my mate the other day the Kevin Moore is the singer on OSI. They should have let him do backing vocals in DT, he's a better singer than MP or JP.

[scenesfromatheater]

I've heard of it, but don't yet have it. I definitely need to listen to it, sounds awesome.

and I just found out from my mate the other day the Kevin Moore is the singer on OSI. They should have let him do backing vocals in DT, he's a better singer than MP or JP.

Haha, it would be awsome if Myung did some backing vocals, that would be super.:naughty:

[Triangle]

Did you see the rasta outside shouting "I'll buy any spare tickets."? That would've made my night if I hadn't seen Dream Theater...
Yes! I thought he might of been an old progger but I was mistaken.:p

After the gig we saw like 5 police cars chasing someone on a bike. The guy had the cheek to ride into us and go "excuse me please..." while he was being chased. Very amusing end to the day.

[shamed-angel]

Haha, it would be awsome if Myung did some backing vocals, that would be super.:naughty:
I've got an instructional video by JM and he talks loads.
"Progressive Bass Concepts" it's really good.
Improved my bass playing tenfold.

[scenesfromatheater]

I've never seen him speak apart from on his Bass DVD and the DT DVDs sometimes.

[shamed-angel]

I've heard of it, but don't yet have it. I definitely need to listen to it, sounds awesome.

and I just found out from my mate the other day the Kevin Moore is the singer on OSI. They should have let him do backing vocals in DT, he's a better singer than MP or JP.
Kevin Moore is a great singer. The OSI album is awesome. He's really funny on my Live in Tokyo video.

[Jred250]

hahaha yea, good enough. I do like Dream Theater. The whole band is massively talented. I have the Portnoy drumming dvds and he is really a cool guy. He is a good drummer, I don't think he is a phenominal drummer, but very good.

I have some news that will interest you then Sonor. I am currently in the process of writing an interview for Beatallica and Dream Theater. I am e-mailing both interviews to the bands on the 1st November. If you have anything you would like to add just tell me.
Oh and I will be posting the interview complete with answers on here :cool:

[shamed-angel]

Is that just SonorKen? Or are any of us allowed to ask?

[Jred250]

Is that just SonorKen? Or are any of us allowed to ask?

If you have something to ask go for it! I have nearly completed the Beatallica interview but Dream theater is a new band to me. I have 4 albums and a DVD and I don't yet know a lot about the band. If you have something you would like to ask them then feel free to post away.

[GenuineImitation]

Ask if they plan to do another concept album.

[shamed-angel]

Mike, will you please, if not for yourself then for me, do another Transatlantic album?
Can you put my name on it?:)Please?

[Cain]

:lol: That Sonorken post was from November of last year. It was the third response in the thread.

I had the second. :cool: (tr00 thread vet).

[scenesfromatheater]

What did the post have to do with the interview anyway?

[Cain]

What did the post have to do with the interview anyway?

I think it was because the person just read it, saw that Ken was "interested" in Mike Portnoy, and thought he might like to ask some questions.

Of course, he's never around these days. I think that there should be a "threadstart date" item next to every one so that people can see how old the threads are.

[Trev]

Argh when are DT going to do a proper tour of the UK?

On an unrelated note, my band are covering 'Stream of Conciousness', (me on drums), including keyboards.

/feable attempt to make a first post to start posting in here more often.

[GenuineImitation]

Argh when are DT going to do a proper tour of the UK?

On an unrelated note, my band are covering 'Stream of Conciousness', (me on drums), including keyboards.

/feable attempt to make a first post to start posting in here more often.


Arent they touring the UK now?

How is the Stream of Conciousness cover going?

[Trev]

Nah its only 3 dates (I think) in London and Wolverhampton, which are just too far away.

And my band members are all away at (the same) university, so they're always practising it together, and I'm practising it at home to the original. Then we'll rehearse it as a band in the Christmas holidays, ready for a gig in January.

It's pretty tricky but very fun to play.

[shamed-angel]

Nah its only 3 dates (I think) in London and Wolverhampton, which are just too far away.

And my band members are all away at (the same) university, so they're always practising it together, and I'm practising it at home to the original. Then we'll rehearse it as a band in the Christmas holidays, ready for a gig in January.

It's pretty tricky but very fun to play.
They never do extensive tours of the U.K. They always just do a few dates, maybe 2 or 3.

[scenesfromatheater]

And we shall always go to those dates.

[shamed-angel]

In the U.K, compared to the U.S. No date is too far. I've always lived about 240 miles from London, but I've seen them 4 times.

[Trev]

Bah. If only Dream Theater had come to London with Yes, then my dad would probably be prepared for the very long drive. He likes Dream Theater and said he'd like to see them but London is too far.

[scenesfromatheater]

Nice avatar:thumb:

[Ad Absurdum]

In the U.K, compared to the U.S. No date is too far. I've always lived about 240 miles from London, but I've seen them 4 times.
I agree. I worked out that for two Dream Theater gigs I've travelled close to 1500 miles (this is including return journeys, so I've went close to 750 to get there and close to 750 to get home). It's totally worth it for Dream Theater though.

[Trev]

Haha thanks. I also have a Trevor Mcdonald poster and a Trevor Mcdonald t-shirt (two if you count the one I ruined). :)

Edit: If I could drive it would be no problem but my dad just refuses to drive that far for 'just a gig'.

[temporary]

You guys who saw Dream Theater, you're all really lucky. They better come to Philly on their '06 tour.

[scenesfromatheater]

You guys who saw Dream Theater, you're all really lucky. They better come to Philly on their '06 tour.


Believe me, it was awsome.:thumb:

[scenesfromatheater]

Haha thanks. I also have a Trevor Mcdonald poster and a Trevor Mcdonald t-shirt (two if you count the one I ruined). :)

Edit: If I could drive it would be no problem but my dad just refuses to drive that far for 'just a gig'.

Quality stuff. Haha, where did you get a Trevor Mcdonald shirt from? I want one NOW!

[Trev]

I used a website where you can get your own custom t-shirts printed. The back says 'Trevor Forever'. :D

Then just this week I bought a plain red t-shirt and some iron on transfer paper and tried to make another, in the style of those Che Guevara t-shirts, the caption being 'Trevolution', but the transfer paper wasn't what it said it was, and I ended up with a big white A4 background, so ruined. :(
Pics on request :p

[Triangle]

Nice avatar:thumb:
Yeah, hehe. Where did you find one with a tongue like that? :p

[Happy]

I used a website where you can get your own custom t-shirts printed. The back says 'Trevor Forever'. :D

haha great.