Dream Theater

[Shattered_Future]

I still think The Glass Prison is the best song they've ever written, I'd kill to hear that live. I think mostly, I'm a fan of their heavier stuff (especially stuff like Panic Attack, Home, The Mirror and others from Awake).

The Glass Prison owns live...such a great song.

It drags on in one or two places, but not enough to bring the quality of the song down.

[static]

This Dying Soul>The Glass Prison>Root of All Evil

Opinions...

[Mr Benners]

The Glass Prison > The Root Of All Evil > This Dying Soul

I REALLY hope they play The Glass Prison when I see them in October.

[Maynard's Dick]

hey people I havent been around these parts in a while. I have 2 DT Discs including the budokan set and enjoy them thoroughly. I have to say though:
never, ever heard them on the radio. Yes, most songs are long but come on...maybe DT should just put a couple short songs on each record that could be single-worthy.

[vashts80]

That was what they intended with...Panic Attack and These Walls? for 8vm? I was pretty sad that they didn't play ITNoG nor TGP when i saw them last week, but we got As I Am and a slightly sped-up version of Pull Me Under :O

[The Depressed]

This Dying Soul > The Root Of All Evil > The Glass Prison

I am not a fan of TGP, and TROAE is pretty good, but TDS was incredible live.

[Darkness]

This Dying Soul is one of my least favorite songs off Train Of Thought... its just so... annoying almost. If the song would have ended around 8 min, it would have been decent but it just drags on with mindless soloing.

[red barchetta]

This Dying Soul is one of my least favorite songs off Train Of Thought... its just so... annoying almost. If the song would have ended around 8 min, it would have been decent but it just drags on with mindless soloing.
i think the same way about Endless Sacrifice. good song, but the instrumental part goes on for aaaaaages.

[Darkness]

True, I still prefer Endless Sacrifice though.

[red barchetta]

i still think its the best song on ToT.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I like the chorus to This Dying Soul quite a bit, but the song does go on for a bit too long. I still like it a lot though.

[BlindWriting]

That last minute of This Dying Soul was unecessary, but the rest of the song is pure gold.

[Shattered_Future]

I think after the beginning of the song, right when LaBrie starts singing, until the end, the song gets boring.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I think after the beginning of the song, right when LaBrie starts singing, until the end, the song gets boring.

I think you're wrong. :p

[Shattered_Future]

I think you're wrong. :p

I KNOW I'm right. :evil:

:p

I love the opening...the first minute or 2. Then i shut it off.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I KNOW I'm right. :evil:

:p

I love the opening...the first minute or 2. Then i shut it off.

The first 5 seconds are so cool. :)

[monkey_chops23]

That was what they intended with...Panic Attack and These Walls? for 8vm? I was pretty sad that they didn't play ITNoG nor TGP when i saw them last week, but we got As I Am and a slightly sped-up version of Pull Me Under :O

did you see them in vegas? They did Pull Me Under for the encore and they sped up the second verse to double time for some reason. I guess their time was running out.

That was an amazing show, despite that they didn't play Glass Prison or This Dying Soul. I was right against the barrier beneath John Petrucci. It was awesome. :thumb:

[Ad Absurdum]

The Glass Prison owns live...such a great song.
It sure does, it doesn't even matter whether Petrucci nails the arpeggios or not; the song is so powerful on it's own. I'd love to hear all three of the AA songs played in order live, hopefully they will do that in London.

[Prince of Darkness]

I think, now that every Official thread is getting renamed, this one just too.

What about...
Images&Posts ?
The Thread of Eternity - Dream Theater
Metropolis pt.3 - Dream Theater Thread
Learning to Post.hmm.no.

Yeah, But you get the point.If other thread can change, why should the DT thread be an exception.

[thunderzstruck]

thread of eternity

[Prince of Darkness]

Yeah, Thread of Eternity(Dream Theater)

That should be the name.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I vote for Thread of Eternity (Dream Theater) as well. Unless, of course, I can think of a name myself. I'll have to think about that for a day.

[the2stranger]

Attention
I have a suggestion too.

When Dream And Thread Unite

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Attention
I have a suggestion to.

When Dream And Thread Unite

That's not bad. :)

[the2stranger]

That's not bad. :)

thank you, that just popped on me when I was thinking of a title for the Opeth thread :p

[Deth]

Lifting Shadows Of A Dream Theater is my suggestion.

[MAthiAS]

The Thread of Eternity.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Lifting Shadows Of A Dream Theater is my suggestion.

That's not bad either. Might be a little long though.

[Shattered_Future]

The Glass Prison - An MX tribute to Dream Theater?

/lame

I like the Thread Of Eternity...

[BlindWriting]

Hah. All the formerly ***official*** threads are trying to come up with a cool name.

[MAthiAS]

That's not bad either. Might be a little long though.
Don't be silly, it sucks.

You guys know my vote...

or Semi-Virtuosic Sellout Wankery.

[red barchetta]

Don't be silly, it sucks.

You guys know my vote...

or Semi-Virtuosic Sellout Wankery.
:lol: its perfect.

how about 6 degrees of Dream Theater?

[MAthiAS]

I don't like the ones with the band name in the title. That's me.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Here are some of my suggestions. I don't know if any of these have been thought up before.

-The Ytse thread
-The first thread, eternal
-Caught in a thread
-Hanging on by a thread
-6 Degrees of MX

I'm bad at thinking up thread names. :upset:

[Txus]

The Glass Thread.....I know i suck....:upset:

[red barchetta]

Hell's Thread.
the thread of all evil
under a glass thread
another thread - the killing thread
threads in the sand
blind thread

no, they suck

[classicrockman]

Threadavarium

Thread me under

Sacrificed threads

The thread lies within.

[billsfan257]

Honor thy Thread
In the Thread of God
Scenes from a Thread

[MAthiAS]

No, those all suck.

[Darkness]

When Dream and Thread Unite rocks.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

as i am>panic attack
as i am>pull me under
as i am>glass prison
as i am<root of all evil
root of all evil>octavarium
octavarium<glass prison
glass prison>change of seasons
root of all evil>glass prison
root of all evil>change of seasons

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

Honor thy Thread
In the Thread of God
Scenes from a Thread


"as i post"
"the thread of all evil"

[Ad Absurdum]

as i am>panic attack
as i am>pull me under
as i am>glass prison
as i am<root of all evil
root of all evil>octavarium
octavarium<glass prison
glass prison>change of seasons
root of all evil>glass prison
root of all evil>change of seasons
I disagree with every one of them, except the second last one. Everyone must agree on the fact that 'Scarred'>every piece of music ever written.

Anyway, what about "Teh fred that pwned dem all".

[Darkness]

The Glass Prison > A change in seasons? Are you nuts?

[the2stranger]

When Dream and Thread Unite rocks.

I totaly agree with that:cool:

now vote for my suggestion in the Opeth thread:

Blackwater Park, the Opeth Domain ;)

[Prince of Darkness]

Scenes from a Forum, The Dream Theater Thread

It don't get no better than that.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

I disagree with every one of them, except the second last one. Everyone must agree on the fact that 'Scarred'>every piece of music ever written.

Anyway, what about "Teh fred that pwned dem all".


scarred??

[DirtyQuebec6969]

I'm sorry, but I am very sick of people worshipping Dream Theater. They play in odd time signatures that simply have nothing to do with the sacred Geometry they supposedly espouse. All my recorded material is based on mathmatical structures that have proven themselves through eons.

Their supposed use of art as a communcation of the collective unconcious is simply elementary rambling. Freud would spit on them given the opportunity.

On a more basic level, their grasp of modality is, quite frankly, lacking. They rely on the standards set forth by musicians from hundreds of years ago. By that i mean, the concept of a 12 tone music system. It is insulting that they continue to push the tradition that music comprises only these notes, indian music for example, has many many more possibilites for melodic invention. To say that they are truly on the forefront of music, is, with all due respect, comment dit-on disheartening.

I am from Quebec, excuse my poor english.

[Prince of Darkness]

Making such a 'important' first post, must mean one of two things...

Either you could be the greatest MXer of all time with the 'talent' to turn the forum around for the better

or...

Your just full of ****.

How I know the noobs.....Guess what my choice is.

[Darkness]

... We just enjoy Dream Theaters music, the way it sounds. Who cares about all that other stuff... the music sounds good. End of story.

[DirtyQuebec6969]

Except it doesn't, obviously. How can you justify listening to Dream Theatre when everything they base their music on is a lie? Supposedly progressive, they can hardly be called anything but regressive. Obscurity does not indicate virtuosity, let alone quality.

Go listen to something like Death Cab for Cutie if all you enjoy is the immediate sonic qualities, and not their underlying foundations.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I'm sorry, but I am very sick of people worshipping Dream Theater. They play in odd time signatures that simply have nothing to do with the sacred Geometry they supposedly espouse. All my recorded material is based on mathmatical structures that have proven themselves through eons.

Their supposed use of art as a communcation of the collective unconcious is simply elementary rambling. Freud would spit on them given the opportunity.

On a more basic level, their grasp of modality is, quite frankly, lacking. They rely on the standards set forth by musicians from hundreds of years ago. By that i mean, the concept of a 12 tone music system. It is insulting that they continue to push the tradition that music comprises only these notes, indian music for example, has many many more possibilites for melodic invention. To say that they are truly on the forefront of music, is, with all due respect, comment dit-on disheartening.

I am from Quebec, excuse my poor english.

Are you sure you didn't mean to put this in the Tool thread? I don't recall Dream Theater ever mentioning the collective unconscious nor any sacred geometry that they supposedly espouse. If this is a joke, it's actually kinda' funny. If this isn't a joke, just leave this thread and hang out in the pit.

[Lord Abortion]

I have come to a conclusion

Misunderstood is my favourite track on 6DOIT

it's awesome...

and I really haven't posted here in a while

[Darkness]

Yeah this would relate to Tool more then Dream Theater... but its still pretty stupid.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I have come to a conclusion

Misunderstood is my favourite track on 6DOIT

it's awesome...

and I really haven't posted here in a while

I really like that song a lot! I love the part where Labrie is like "From a thief to a beggar, from a God to God save me!" and than it gets hard for the chorus. So awesome. It's probably my favorite song on there too.

Yeah this would relate to Tool more then Dream Theater... but its still pretty stupid.

Yeah, I wouldn't say it's true for Tool either, I'm just saying that that seems like an argument some pretentious ******* would use against Tool.

[MAthiAS]

The feedback before the chorus is the best part of Misunderstood.

Misunderstood = Blind Faith > The Great Debate > The Glass Prison

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

The feedback before the chorus is the best part of Misunderstood.

Misunderstood = Blind Faith > The Great Debate > The Glass Prison

Misunderstood > Blind Faith > The Glass Prison = Disappear > The Great Debate

I really don't like TGD. Maybe, it's because I'm a big Tool fan and that song is so "inspired" by them that I just can't listen to it. It's really not a bad song, just I wish they were a bit more original with that one.

[pieisgood19]

Dream theater is defiently a good band with talented musicians. I like the song "in the name of god" overall.

[Darkness]

I love all the songs on that cd, and TGD is one of my favorites.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I love all the songs on that cd, and TGD is one of my favorites.

It's an awesome cd. I'm just saying, TGD borrows a little too much at times.

[thunderzstruck]

Now guys think of this...

Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, and Rush touring together! omg i would die

[adioviva]

**** canadians

[Darkness]

Now guys think of this...

Dream Theater, Iron Maiden, and Rush touring together! omg i would die
We did something like that a few pages back actually. :p

[Petary791]

IMO, Dream Theater is one of the most talented bands to ever live, if not the most talented.

[MAthiAS]

IMO, Dream Theater is one of the most talented bands to ever live, if not the most talented.
Racer X > Dream Theater

[Darkness]

Racer X is awesome... its to bad their not talked about more often.

[vashts80]

A lot of people like to do "Symphony X vs. Dream Theater", when neither band is alike besides the common factors of virtuosity, and Russel and LaBrie have similar vocal styles :(

[Darkness]

I greatly prefer Dream Theater. Symphony X annoys me for some reason.

[adioviva]

Racer X is awesome... its to bad their not talked about more often.

Is that like speed racer? :amaze:

[Darkness]

No, its an older prog rock band. Their very good, and Paul Gilbert is an awesome guitar player.

[adioviva]

Is he as good as jerry garcia?

[MAthiAS]

Gilbert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petrucci

[adioviva]

<<<<<<<<<<<<<Garcia? :confused:

please clarify

[Darkness]

Gilbert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Petrucci
I don't know about that, but both are rather awesome.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, I know. I prefer Gilbert though. Scarified > anything DT have done.

[Darkness]

Viking Kong is such an awesome instrumental...


We should start a Racer X thread.

[MAthiAS]

Word.

[adioviva]

Word.

So you like boobs too?

[MAthiAS]

Yeah.

[adioviva]

That's pretty sweet. Are you canadian?

[MAthiAS]

By descent, but I live in New Jersey =/

[adioviva]

**** canadians

[Darkness]

Watch it dude, I'm Canadain...

[MAthiAS]

What the hell do you have against Canadians?

[CarvinShredder]

I actually don't like Gilbert his solo style in racer x. he wanks to much there in my opinion. I prefer Petrucci over Gilbert anyday. And Dt over Racer X and MrBig

[Darkness]

He doesn't wank anymore then Petrucci does...

[CarvinShredder]

Well in almost every Racer X song I have heard ( something like 30 ) He has solos who are all the way 16th sexuplets. And that's in my opinion wanking. And I was talking about the 'young' petrucci. From IaW to SFAM

[Prince of Darkness]

I dislike Symphony X for one reason.

Crap Name.

But, Yes, So is Dream Theater

[Ad Absurdum]

scarred??
Yeah, probably the best Dream Theater song ever in my opinion; it's on the album Awake

A lot of people like to do "Symphony X vs. Dream Theater", when neither band is alike besides the common factors of virtuosity, and Russel and LaBrie have similar vocal styles :(
I wouldn't say they have similar vocal styles, and you're right these bands shouldn't be compared. Both are brilliant in their own way.

I'm surprised that no one picked 'Blind Faith' as their favourite song on Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence.

[Prince of Darkness]

Awake and Images and Words are my favorites.

Octavarium isn't that bad. It's just not The Dream Theater I knew.

[Mr Benners]

Yeah, I know. I prefer Gilbert though. Scarified > anything DT have done.

Sometimes I wonder if you actually like DT at all :p

You're a fan of the earlier stuff aren't you?

[red barchetta]

I'm surprised that no one picked 'Blind Faith' as their favourite song on Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence.
its my favourite on the album. i love the part that builds up to the final chorus

[the2stranger]

its my favourite on the album. i love the part that builds up to the final chorus

I love the piano and organ solo so much
/drools

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I dislike Symphony X for one reason.

Crap Name.

But, Yes, So is Dream Theater

Do you like Porcupine Tree than?


BTW, I've decided that my fav. of 6DOIT in order go:

The Glass Prison > Misunderstood > Blind Faith > The Great Debate = Disappear

[MAthiAS]

Well in almost every Racer X song I have heard ( something like 30 ) He has solos who are all the way 16th sexuplets. And that's in my opinion wanking. And I was talking about the 'young' petrucci. From IaW to SFAM
Speed =/= wankage

Most of Petrucci's solos are just scalar patterns played really fast, often chromatic patterns even. That's wankage.

MrBenners: Yes.

[the2stranger]

Speed =/= wankage

Most of Petrucci's solos are just scalar patterns played really fast, often chromatic patterns even. That's wankage.

MrBenners: Yes.

that sounds more like Slayer solos to me.
slayer bores the crap out of me

[WheepingGuitar39]

Yup
the Gigantour show at Montreal kicked ***. It was filmed for the DVD release.
all the bands were ****.
But then Dream Theatre came on and W O W.
GREAT stuff.

and to DirtyQuebec6969, I refuse to believe you are from quebec.

Odd time signatures? Have you ever heard of Pink Floyd?
One of Dream Theatre's biggest influences? Pink Floyd? hmm yea.
And we all know Quebecers are in love with Pink Floyd.
So you equals not Quebec.

On another note..
Dave Mustaine later on in the show had the Quebec flag wrapped around him.. with fireworks going off, what a site.

[thunderzstruck]

We did something like that a few pages back actually. :p


And I was the one who brought that up too :-D

[MAthiAS]

that sounds more like Slayer solos to me.
slayer bores the crap out of me
Slayer has some great riffing, but every last one of their solos sucks balls.

[bwnstl]

Am I the only one who absolutely loves Disappear off of 6DOIT? I won't necessarily say it's my favorite song off of Disc 1, but it's the one I've been listening to the most lately.

[Darkness]

Its decent, a bit similar to the last song on Awake... which's title has slipped my mind.

[MAthiAS]

Space Dye Vest > Disappear

[Darkness]

Yeah thats the one. One of my top 3 Dream Theater songs. Forsure... I don't think they have a more emotional song.

[adiovivo]

and to DirtyQuebec6969, I refuse to believe you are from quebec.

Odd time signatures? Have you ever heard of Pink Floyd?
One of Dream Theatre's biggest influences? Pink Floyd? hmm yea.
And we all know Quebecers are in love with Pink Floyd.
So you equals not Quebec.

On another note..
Dave Mustaine later on in the show had the Quebec flag wrapped around him.. with fireworks going off, what a site.

first off I want to say dream theater is pretty funky, and by funky I mean it in a good way, because they are rather sweet :chug:

ok but weeping guitar i think we need to get one thing straight :eek: in quebec, which should be its own country only the anglos listen to pink floyd mostly, les francophones are all up in Gilles Vilnaughssfdsd (sp?)'s grill, like gens du pays, so don't try and pull a fast one, old pierre trudeau

anyway I think quebec should be its own country, its a nation of people with a seperate language, and a diversified economy and a large independent sentiment, besides their flag is better than canadas so

in conflusion: weeping guitar, I repsectfully disagree with your anti-sovereignty statement

I heard DT talks about Rene Levesque and the parti quebecois in the song "Only a Matter of Time".... true or false..? :confused: :confused:

[WheepingGuitar39]

That was alot of crap I had to read on your part.. buuuuut.
I'm a seperatist by the way.

and im sorry but the french quebecers listen to Pink Floyd A L O T more than anyone else. This is known.
Anyway if you want to talk about pinkfloyd we'll talk about it there.
And everything you said sounded like what a toilet bowl sounds like when you flush it.

[audioviva]

and im sorry but the french quebecers listen to Pink Floyd A L O T more than anyone else. This is known.


oops, i forgot about le devoir's pink floyd francophone quebecois approval rating poll! :upset: :(

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Am I the only one who absolutely loves Disappear off of 6DOIT? I won't necessarily say it's my favorite song off of Disc 1, but it's the one I've been listening to the most lately.

I like it a lot too. The keyboard part in the beggining is really creepy and sad sounding. Not my favorite on the album, but nonetheless, it is good.

[bwnstl]

Yeah, exactly! It's such a scary, creepy, emotional sound that he gets with the keyboard. And it's such an emotional song too, I love it. I guess deep down I'm just an emo-boy. :(

[Sacrificial Teddybears]

the band would have done soooo much better with a better/no singer, the singer has prevented this band from being as great as they had the potential to be

[Kirk's Puppet]

I don't understand what's the hate for LaBrie, I think he's fantastic.

I love Octavarium by the way, it's my favourite DT album currently.

Any recommendations of Muse songs that have inspired Octavarium?

[red barchetta]

I don't understand what's the hate for LaBrie, I think he's fantastic.

I love Octavarium by the way, it's my favourite DT album currently.

Any recommendations of Muse songs that have inspired Octavarium?
if you liked Never Enough, you'll like Stockholm Syndrome. you might also like Hysteria and Time is running out (the part just before the chorus of 'these walls' sounds like a part of TIRO). thats all i can think of when i think about Octavarium

[shamed-angel]

the band would have done soooo much better with a better/no singer, the singer has prevented this band from being as great as they had the potential to be
You talk ****.. utter ****...

[chaseharrell]

I don't understand what's the hate for LaBrie, I think he's fantastic.

I love Octavarium by the way, it's my favourite DT album currently.

Any recommendations of Muse songs that have inspired Octavarium?


lol, I was just listening to my Octavarium, and was gonna come here to ask everyone else if they saw a heavy influence of Muse on Never Enough. The whole first half of it sounds just like Stockholm Syndrome... it doesn't help that James sings in the exact style of Muse's singer in it too... maybe he was trying to sound just like it. Also in Panic Attack, they sound like Muse at around 3:50, which is funny, because right at that point the vocals say "Hysteria" lol. Anyone else notice that?

[MAthiAS]

Yes, you're not the first one.

[Darkness]

the band would have done soooo much better with a better/no singer, the singer has prevented this band from being as great as they had the potential to be
I hated James the first couple times I heard the band. But the instrumentation was to much to resist, now I really like James. Sometimes a bit annoying, but still very good. He can hit some really nice notes, especially on Awake. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

If you think James sucks listen to WDADU.

[Sacrificial Teddybears]

I hated James the first couple times I heard the band. But the instrumentation was to much to resist, now I really like James. Sometimes a bit annoying, but still very good. He can hit some really nice notes, especially on Awake.

i suppose in time he will grow on me, but right now i feel his voice is too whiney, and the instrumentation is awesome to make up for James Labrie's singing. and well ive only just got into Dream Theater, so...yea....

[Darkness]

Give it some time, and listen to A Change In Seasons. :D

[Sacrificial Teddybears]

Give it some time, and listen to A Change In Seasons.

his voice annoyed me a bit

[Chu]

If you think James sucks listen to WDADU.
From that I gather it's not very good? :p

[MAthiAS]

Its good, but the singer sucked.

[Moses]

I hated James the first couple times I heard the band. But the instrumentation was to much to resist, now I really like James. Sometimes a bit annoying, but still very good. He can hit some really nice notes, especially on Awake. :thumb:
Awake is starting to become my favorite album of theirs. At first, not so much.

[Darkness]

Awake is starting to become my favorite album of theirs. At first, not so much.
Thats what happened to me.

[Crudd-Bucket™]

Thats what happened to me.

Then you get sick of it.

[Crudd-Bucket™]

I hated James the first couple times I heard the band. But the instrumentation was to much to resist, now I really like James. Sometimes a bit annoying, but still very good. He can hit some really nice notes, especially on Awake.

123456 man. That's how I felt. Same thing happened with Opeth, now I love them

[red barchetta]

i prefer listening to James sing rather than listen to a 5 minute Petrucci/Ruddess solo

[nowitzki]

i prefer listening to James sing rather than listen to a 5 minute Petrucci/Ruddess solo

Well when you can get both in a song thats perfect. Which is why I never enjoy listening to a LTE album as much as a DT album. They are excellent at times but cant compete with DT.

[national_chaos_jolliffe]

hahaha yea, good enough. I do like Dream Theater. The whole band is massively talented. I have the Portnoy drumming dvds and he is really a cool guy. He is a good drummer, I don't think he is a phenominal drummer, but very good.


i agree fully, their amazing, myung especially he's such an influence...

[jpshortstuff]

i prefer listening to James sing rather than listen to a 5 minute Petrucci/Ruddess solo

blasphemy

i remember reading somewhere (cant remember where): Dream Theater, great band, but who cut that singers balls off.

[MAthiAS]

i prefer listening to James sing rather than listen to a 5 minute Petrucci/Ruddess solo
123, if the lyrics are Myung's.

They need to stop with the JP vs. JR races. Boring.

[Darkness]

I like Petruccis lyrics as well as Myungs.

[MAthiAS]

Petrucci's lyrics can sometimes be great, but Myung's are always the best of any of theirs. It really sucks he doesn't submit lyrics anymore, and never did too much.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Petrucci's lyrics can sometimes be great, but Myung's are always the best of any of theirs. It really sucks he doesn't submit lyrics anymore, and never did too much.

Very true. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream has really cool lyrics.

[horseypie]

its only cuz the rest of the band didnt want free-prose lyrics, they wanted the music shaped for the song

[The_Riddler]

I am probably really late in this thread, but oh well

I am just now getting into Dream Theater, I heard a few of their songs online and couldn't get enough of the 2 that I kept hearing off of their newest album so I went and bought it. I really enjoy the entire album and I have been listening to it nonstop since I bought it..Since I still am not fully into this band I do have a question or two.

Are all the vocals the same for each Dream Theater album? I really enjoy them on Octavarium? I am not sure at all, I remember downloaded thier cover on Metallica's Master of Puppets album a year ago or so and the vocals sound completely different than from what I remember, so I guess it's worth asking.

[the2stranger]

I am probably really late in this thread, but oh well

I am just now getting into Dream Theater, I heard a few of their songs online and couldn't get enough of the 2 that I kept hearing off of their newest album so I went and bought it. I really enjoy the entire album and I have been listening to it nonstop since I bought it..Since I still am not fully into this band I do have a question or two.

Are all the vocals the same for each Dream Theater album? I really enjoy them on Octavarium? I am not sure at all, I remember downloaded thier cover on Metallica's Master of Puppets album a year ago or so and the vocals sound completely different than from what I remember, so I guess it's worth asking.

DT vocals have been the same since their 2nd album.
although on Awake James sings in a more agressive way.
I like his vocals best on Images & Words.

on the first album, when dream and day unite, charly dominich (sp?) or soemthing like that does vocals, but I don't really like him too much

[MAthiAS]

its only cuz the rest of the band didnt want free-prose lyrics, they wanted the music shaped for the song
Lazy bastards.

[Tails]

I am probably really late in this thread, but oh well

I am just now getting into Dream Theater, I heard a few of their songs online and couldn't get enough of the 2 that I kept hearing off of their newest album so I went and bought it. I really enjoy the entire album and I have been listening to it nonstop since I bought it..Since I still am not fully into this band I do have a question or two.

Are all the vocals the same for each Dream Theater album? I really enjoy them on Octavarium? I am not sure at all, I remember downloaded thier cover on Metallica's Master of Puppets album a year ago or so and the vocals sound completely different than from what I remember, so I guess it's worth asking.
That was a live cover from a few years, and James' vocals weren't doing so great live until 2003-2004 after he injured his vocal chords 10 years ago roughly.

on the first album, when dream and day unite, charly dominich (sp?) or soemthing like that does vocals, but I don't really like him too much
Dominici* :p

[nowitzki]

That was a live cover from a few years, and James' vocals weren't doing so great live until 2003-2004 after he injured his vocal chords 10 years ago roughly.


I'm pretty sure the real reason he sang like that was because they were covering Metallica, not because of his injured vocal chords. They seem to be fine (though admittadly not his best ever) on the LSFNY and OIALT live albums.

123, if the lyrics are Myung's


Myung has written so few lyrics you can hardly say that you only enjoy the singing in songs he wrote. Although I agree his lyrics were usually great, especially Learning to Live.
He stopped because during the SFAM sessions the band agreed they only wanted lyrics if they included melodies and everything that they would need for the song. When Myung did contribute lyrics JP, MP and KM had to work them into the song.

[temporary]

blasphemy

i remember reading somewhere (cant remember where): Dream Theater, great band, but who cut that singers balls off.

I actually like LaBrie's voice, a lot. Particularly when he sings high, on songs like Metropolis or Under A Glass Moon.

I got Live Scenes From New York today, and so far its kickass. I'm listening to Jordan Rudess Keyboard Solo right now, and man he's really a virtuoso.

[static]

Does anyone care to tell me the phaser pedal Petrucci uses on Home?

[MAthiAS]

Does anyone care to tell me the phaser pedal Petrucci uses on Home?
Not really.

[static]

Not really.

OK. Does anyone know the phaser pedal he uses?

[MAthiAS]

Nope.

[thunderzstruck]

OK. Does anyone know the phaser pedal he uses?


He uses Boss.. I know that much

[Triangle]

He uses Boss.. I know that much
Yeah, I saw the advert in TG. I'm not sure he uses it live though. Possibly some sort of rank mounted fx unit.

[ween2424]

I am probably really late in this thread, but oh well

I am just now getting into Dream Theater, I heard a few of their songs online and couldn't get enough of the 2 that I kept hearing off of their newest album so I went and bought it. I really enjoy the entire album and I have been listening to it nonstop since I bought it..Since I still am not fully into this band I do have a question or two.

Are all the vocals the same for each Dream Theater album? I really enjoy them on Octavarium? I am not sure at all, I remember downloaded thier cover on Metallica's Master of Puppets album a year ago or so and the vocals sound completely different than from what I remember, so I guess it's worth asking.
I heard that album wasn't very good, but I wouldn't know. I didn't like Dream Theater until my friend made me listen to 'Train Of Thought'. Then I started liking it. Until he made me listen to that I thought Dream Theater didn't have a singer.

[GenuineImitation]

I heard that album wasn't very good, but I wouldn't know. I didn't like Dream Theater until my friend made me listen to 'Train Of Thought'. Then I started liking it. Until he made me listen to that I thought Dream Theater didn't have a singer.


Its a good cd, but not as good as some of their other albums. Train of thought was the first Dream Theater album I heard also. You may like Awake and 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence as well.

[SlashHalen]

What kind of metal is DT considered? I love them and i was jstu wondering what their catagory would be so i could find some similar bands.

[MAthiAS]

Prog metal.

[Struggling Mitch]

just finished watching live in budokan. HOLY ****. that is all

[Muellator]

What kind of metal is DT considered? I love them and i was jstu wondering what their catagory would be so i could find some similar bands.
If you want similar bands, go for Symphony X for sure, they are amazing

[the2stranger]

Symphony X are more power metal-ish than progressive, but wa very good band indeed.

try some Racer X if you want a more DT style prog metal.
other bands you might enjoy that are prg metal:
Pain of Salvation
The Flower Kings
OSI
Therion

[nowitzki]

also Spock's Beard
and of course Liquid Tension Experiment

[TemperamentalGoat]

Not to mention Planet X as well, prog-metal instrumental side project.

Pain of Salvation, by the way, is incredibly awesome.

[Muellator]

Symphony X are more power metal-ish than progressive, but wa very good band indeed.

try some Racer X if you want a more DT style prog metal.
other bands you might enjoy that are prg metal:
Pain of Salvation
The Flower Kings
OSI
Therion

They are still very progressive and very technically in the way DT is

[eaterofbabies]

Dream Theater rocks I wished they were on the tour when megadeth came here but anthax was sweet to.

[MAthiAS]

No you don't, Anthrax > DT

[nowitzki]

No you don't, Anthrax > DT

Erm, no. As good as Anthrax are live theres no way I'd buy tickets to see them 2 consecutive nights playing 3 hour sets.

[red barchetta]

Erm, no. As good as Anthrax are live theres no way I'd buy tickets to see them 2 consecutive nights playing 3 hour sets.
theres no way im wasting my money on any band to see them 2 consecutive nights playing 3 hour sets.

besides, at least 1 hour of the 3 will be the band members (excluding Myung and Labrie) wanking away on their instruments.

[scenesfromatheater]

theres no way im wasting my money on any band to see them 2 consecutive nights playing 3 hour sets.

besides, at least 1 hour of the 3 will be the band members (excluding Myung and Labrie) wanking away on their instruments.


Dream Theater are't just 'any band'. you get 3 hours of intense playing from all the members (maybe not labrie). Theres not many bands that could keep me interested for that long in one gig. Also, they've got so much vary in their music so it's not 3 hours of the same style, Dream Theater cover so much ground.

[red barchetta]

Dream Theater are't just 'any band'. you get 3 hours of intense playing from all the members (maybe not labrie). Theres not many bands that could keep me interested for that long in one gig. Also, they've got so much vary in their music so it's not 3 hours of the same style, Dream Theater cover so much ground.
hey, its just my opinion. i just dont appreciate that kind of stuff as much as you and other people. :thumb:

[Quickdrop]

Dream Theater are't just 'any band'. you get 3 hours of intense playing from all the members (maybe not labrie). Theres not many bands that could keep me interested for that long in one gig. Also, they've got so much vary in their music so it's not 3 hours of the same style, Dream Theater cover so much ground.I agree, but not only that they are just a fun band to listen to. The songs are so intricate, you can listen to the same one noticing new things everytime. The fact that every song they have is well constructed isn't exactly a bad thing either. Truely an impressive band.

[scenesfromatheater]

hey, its just my opinion. i just dont appreciate that kind of stuff as much as you and other people. :thumb:

your missing out big time.

if you havent got them i recommend you get images and words and scenes from a memory, there the best 2 DT albums in my opinion

[red barchetta]

your missing out big time.

if you havent got them i recommend you get images and words and scenes from a memory, there the best 2 DT albums in my opinion
ive been posting here for quite a while, and ive got all their albums. ;)

i just dont like the super-extended soloing in their live shows, like the petrucci guitar solo in Once in a livetime. its unnecessary

[scenesfromatheater]

ive been posting here for quite a while, and ive got all their albums. ;)

i just dont like the super-extended soloing in their live shows, like the petrucci guitar solo in Once in a livetime. its unnecessary

oh right. I'm definatly sure there won't be a support as it is an evening with, but at the wolverhamton show on 26th October it says on wolvescivic.co.uk it says Dream Theater + support. This is a mistake on their part isn't it?

[red barchetta]

oh right. I'm definatly sure there won't be a support as it is an evening with, but at the wolverhamton show on 26th October it says on wolvescivic.co.uk it says Dream Theater + support. This is a mistake on their part isn't it?
not sure, it says 'All shows will be "An Evening With Dream Theater" (no opening act and 2 sets with an intermission) unless noted otherwise' in their website.

[temporary]

Hey, does anyone know where I can find a schedule for their North America tour in spring of '06? I tried on their website and couldn't find anything.

[GenuineImitation]

Hey, does anyone know where I can find a schedule for their North America tour in spring of '06? I tried on their website and couldn't find anything.


The official dream theater website should have that info.

http://www.dreamtheater.net/

[Darkness]

Hopefully these losers decide to come to Edmonton Alberta since they didn't with Gigantour...

[temporary]

The official dream theater website should have that info.

http://www.dreamtheater.net/

I tried their, and all I can find is the Gigantour and '05 Europe tour.

[GenuineImitation]

I tried their, and all I can find is the Gigantour and '05 Europe tour.


Really? Sorry I couldnt help.

[Trivium]

Im a little behind on the dream theater thing.

But I jsut got six degrees of inner turbulance. Listened to both cds nonstop.

And honestly, its the best music ive ever heard in my life.

[Aberrationbass]

im going seeing Dream Theater in October and the nights called "An evening with dream theater" does that mean there will be no support band or anything else?

[scenesfromatheater]

im going seeing Dream Theater in October and the nights called "An evening with dream theater" does that mean there will be no support band or anything else?

it means theres 2, one and a half hour sets with an intermission. And no supports. Usually the shows over 3 hours

[red barchetta]

Im a little behind on the dream theater thing.

But I jsut got six degrees of inner turbulance. Listened to both cds nonstop.

And honestly, its the best music ive ever heard in my life.
my favourite DT album :thumb:

blind faith, glass prison, dissappear and the SDOIT song are my favourite DT songs.

[GenuineImitation]

I want to get a dream theater DVD. I heard Live at Budokon was the best, but what are the other ones?

[Lord of Sword]

the only other dvd i've seen is live scenes from new york. quality wise, budokan is a lot better. the sound quality is better, and it doesn't look like it was recorded on a home video camera. the setlist isn't the best, mostly the 2nd disc of 6DOIT and ToT, while LSFNY has all of SFAM, aswell as A Mind Beside Itself, ACOS, and a couple of other tracks. budokan has much better extra features aswell, like petrucci's guitar world and mike getting people from the crowd to play drums onstage with him.

considering LSFNY seems more just like a live version of the album with a couple of extra songs thrown in, while budokan is more a proper live dvd, i'd go for budokan, as tempting as the LSFNY version of ACOS may be.

[chaseharrell]

or just dump down the money like me, and get both of them :) I am with him though, Live at Budokan is a higher quality DVD, and has better special features. Plus you get to watch Portnoy playing on the Seimese Monster instead of the old Purple Monster :) .

[scenesfromatheater]

LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.

[red barchetta]

LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.
at least they included learning to live and erotomania-voices-silent man. i love those songs :)

[GenuineImitation]

Right now I am thinking about getting Budokon because I am saving up for Socom III and I dont have a job at the moment. I'll get the LSFNY DVD for christmas or something.

[Triangle]

LSFNY has definatly got the best set in my opinion, SFAM, ACOS and Metropolis all in one show, plus some more off Awake thrown in. It's really annoying that they didn't even include the whole set on LSFNY DVD, so you don't even get Metropolis. The quality of Budokan DVD is a lot better, and is more of a live show with members interacting with the crowd a lot more.
Yeah it is annoying that they didn't do that. I reckon if they took the set from LSFNY and played it at Budokan that would rock. :)

[nowitzki]

Yeah it is annoying that they didn't do that. I reckon if they took the set from LSFNY and played it at Budokan that would rock. :)
Yes it would, the LSFNY CD set is incredible, almost perfect setlist. And I hate those crappy camera effects and the cheesy acting on the DVD.

[Mizuzack]

Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.

[tehnick]

Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.

awsum post d00d, no lye

[Mizuzack]

awsum post d00d, no lye

Hmm, I thank the compliment but I really think you need to learn how to type. You don't look cool, it just makes you look dumb.

[halfdeadhippo]

Hmm, I thank the compliment but I really think you need to learn how to type. You don't look cool, it just makes you look dumb.
I'm pretty sure that his post was intended as sarcasm. I haven't read the whole thread, but there's probably a good deal of people who've come in and said the same thing you did.

[Mizuzack]

I'm pretty sure that his post was intended as sarcasm. I haven't read the whole thread, but there's probably a good deal of people who've come in and said the same thing you did.

And there are also a number of people who come in here and say that Dream Theater are extremely talented and one of their favourite bands but no sarcasm is thrown at them. Funny that.

I'm merely expressing my opinion, dam n it.

[Prince of Darkness]

hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".

Not only lyrics, but when he says: ..." Find, I've gone FULL CIRCLE" , he says it excactly as Maynard James Keenan said it on Prison sex. What's up with the mofo? and the intro couldn't be more of a rip from Shine On you Crazy Diamond. Explain, Die hard DT fans!

[the2stranger]

hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".

Not only lyrics, but when he says: ..." Find, I've gone FULL CIRCLE" , he says it excactly as Maynard James Keenan said it on Prison sex. What's up with the mofo? and the intro couldn't be more of a rip from Shine On you Crazy Diamond. Explain, Die hard DT fans!

the part with the singing of bits from other songs is thought up by Portnoy, and I love that part the most of the song :)

[Mizuzack]

the part with the singing of bits from other songs is thought up by Portnoy, and I love that part the most of the song :)

When I first saw your avatar I thought it was a crazy anorexic emu.

[The Depressed]

hey. What's up with LaBrie copying a lot of lyrics on Octavarium(song)? What I picked up: "Be careful with that axe, Eugene" ; " Lucy in the sky with diamond".

It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.

[the2stranger]

It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.

very interessting stuff, thanks for this :thumb:

[Shred Danson]

Dream Theater are very talented, but I just don't like the singer.

I don't like the singer that much, either, but it grows on you after a while. I don't think any other singer would fit with their music...

[the2stranger]

I love James' vocals
I always did, from the first time I heard them

[Prince of Darkness]

It's a play on words, the things that Portnoy enjoyed/has been influenced by in his life, hence -

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.

omg that's good. thanks, but on Never Enough, they clearly ripp off Muse's Hysteria. even the vocal part has Ballamy written all over it. Portnoy even admitted that Absolution was his favorite album at the time. silly

[GenuineImitation]

http://dt.spatang.com/octavarium.php

Down near the bottom, all the lyrics and their origins.

Thanks for the link. It tells alot about the album. I dont have time to read the whole thing now, so i'll just bookmark it.

[scenesfromatheater]

wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.

[the2stranger]

wow, that's going to take me a long time to read.

on a different note, has anyone heard about a play/musical about the SFAM album. My brother told me a few weeks ago and I didn't know if he was lying or not.


it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:

[Prince of Darkness]

it's true, there will be two shows, but only in the states :upset:


It's gonna blow. Altough I am quite eager to see if they can pull it off.

[bodger]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

[Mizuzack]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

There are plenty more genres still around other than death metal. Don't listen to death metal if you don't like it.

And with other bands sounding like Dream Theater...well, Dream Theater are prog, so try to get into other prog bands.

[scenesfromatheater]

Dream Theater - Metropolis pt. 1 and Rush - YYZ got me into prog.

quite a lot of underground death metal is prog/technical anyway. i like death metal because you get a lot of good drummers, but some of the vocals like early Cannibal Corpse are funny.

[MAthiAS]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?
You clearly know nothing about death metal.

[the2stranger]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

please note that death metal is a genre that has a lot of skilled and studied musicians.

just because you don't appreciate it, doesn''t mean it's bad, or that it will be the downlfall of metal.

a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too

[temporary]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?

Although I'm no fan of Death Metal, you shouldn't dismiss a genre like that. Also, I'd recomend learning how to type...

[red barchetta]

is death metal the end of metal (cos death metal, i think it sucks arse) or can we rely on bands like dream theater (if any more exist) to save the world from being overcome by blast-beat-and-power-chord-playing-screamo crap now that the old metal bands like black sabbath, deep purple and to a lesser extent, metallica have done their dash. Dream theater kick arse and they are all hugely talented. ne1 disagree?
i disagree :)

that is, the death metal part. i still think DT are talented, but there are many more bands you havent heard of that are as talented as them.

[Aberrationbass]

Jazz is sometimes technical but thats if its learned
it kind of defeats the point though because its really all about improviseation what happens in Jazz sometimes is technical but it depends on what there feeling i think its a insult to Jazz to say it has the most skill when alot of it happens by accident.......
Classical is a hard one some of it i don't think merits much skill because its about following set rules and can be primitive because of the lack of instruments of the time
But on the contrary Classical composers such as Schubert broke the rules and strove for something unique as well as being very technical
i think prog is joint 1 with classical maybe
Classical has more technical note choice
but progs time sigs and ignorance of key sigs (and still sounding good) also deserve merit
guess we'll never know........

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

a top of genres with most skill:

Classical
Jazz
Progressive metal
(technical) Death metal

you could argue to fit Blues in there too

Some blues definitely belongs in there. I wish I could play like SRV (I consider him blues, although some don't).

[Lord Abortion]

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.

[GenuineImitation]

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.

Once in a Livetime is good, but it costs about the same as Live at Budokon. I like Budokon better though.

[MAthiAS]

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.
I've got a copy of it, I can send it to you sometime if you like.

[temporary]

I just got Falling into infinity

It's great at first listen, lines in the sand is incredible,

anyone have when dream and day unite?
I can't find a copy, I have all DT's studio albums bar that one, also would you recommend me a live album?
as I have always balked at the price of LATB.

Definitly Live Scenes in New York. The setlist is almost perfect.

[Lord Abortion]

I've got a copy of it, I can send it to you sometime if you like.
Cheers man, I'm going to get all the live albums eventually, I might well get live at the marquee for it's heavily I&W themed set.

[Thor]

Do we have a bassist in here who can do the solo in Metropolis Pt. 1?

Because if we do, help me out!

[MAthiAS]

Cheers man, I'm going to get all the live albums eventually, I might well get live at the marquee for it's heavily I&W themed set.
I meant WDADU by the way. What's your AIM?

[Lord Abortion]

I meant WDADU by the way. What's your AIM?
Yeah, I know you did... :p

LordOllie6

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, I know you did... :p

LordOllie6
Now copying, AIM's Zephyr2k3.

[Firecracker]

In this thread is there a post where someone has explained the whole 'Metropolis Pt. 2 (Scenes From A Memory)' saga????

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

can anyone play instrumedly, i cant memorize the **** thing cuz its so random and everythings different

[Jred250]

hey Jred250. got your message.

sure we'd love to do an interview via email. it would be best though if we could do it when we get back in late october as we're swamped with europe stuff right now. is that ok?

as far as bands, i have a lot of non-metal stuff to recommend: Ben Harper, Lyle Lovett, The Pogues, North Mississippi All-Stars to name a few. i try to be well rounded, you know?

I'm writing Mike Portnoy from DT tonite. i'll tell him you say hi!

talk soon, jaymz

An e-mail I recieved from BTallica a day or so ago.

Any questions for Portnoy you need answers to??? I will bring them up in the interview Thanks

[scenesfromatheater]

can anyone play instrumedly, i cant memorize the **** thing cuz its so random and everythings different

wow, i find it really easy to memorise the instumedly, i just can't play it. I wouldnt be able to play it in about 10 years more of guitar playing probably. can you actually play all the different sections but not all together.

[Metallidether]

Hey I just got introduced to this band and I already love them just from the little bits and pieces that I have heard. I heard Glass Prison and was pretty much blown away and I heard As I Am and I like that one too. The only other band that I have heard that is kind of like them is Symphony X. So I was wondering which should be the first cd I should buy for them. I read reviews on a lot of them and they all sound awesome. If it means anything, I kinda like heavier songs a little more, but it sounds like these guys can do anything well. So ya, didn't know if there is really an album that I should buy first, like with Metallica most people say to buy MoP first.

[MAthiAS]

Get Awake, its heavy enough you'll like it but not heavy enough its still good. IMO.

But you'll probably like Train of Thought better.

[static]

Hey I just got introduced to this band and I already love them just from the little bits and pieces that I have heard. I heard Glass Prison and was pretty much blown away and I heard As I Am and I like that one too. The only other band that I have heard that is kind of like them is Symphony X. So I was wondering which should be the first cd I should buy for them. I read reviews on a lot of them and they all sound awesome. If it means anything, I kinda like heavier songs a little more, but it sounds like these guys can do anything well. So ya, didn't know if there is really an album that I should buy first, like with Metallica most people say to buy MoP first.

You'll easily love Train of Thought.

[6-String_Slinger]

after hearing the budokan instrumedly, i can't listen to any of those songs without imagining the segues into the next song, especially the Dance of Eternity>Paradigm Shift>Universal Mind

[SlashHalen]

wow i jsut got Ytse Jam at the request thread. so awsome i love Stream of Conicousness too (i know i didnt spellit right). maybe a stupid question. but how is Ytse jam Pronounced? like by letter? or is it an acutal word??

[tehnick]

after hearing the budokan instrumedly, i can't listen to any of those songs without imagining the segues into the next song, especially the Dance of Eternity>Paradigm Shift>Universal Mind


123

The segues in instrumedley kick ***

[tehnick]

wow i jsut got Ytse Jam at the request thread. so awsome i love Stream of Conicousness too (i know i didnt spellit right). maybe a stupid question. but how is Ytse jam Pronounced? like by letter? or is it an acutal word??


like It's a Jam (It's also Majesty backwards, Dream Theater's original name)

EDIT: sorry for double post

[Lord Abortion]

Train of thought is my favourite DT album other than I&W

I am going to start posting here again. :)

[HNLzero]

I just realized that "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" sounds way more U2ish than "I Walk Beside You".

[HNLzero]

wow i jsut got Ytse Jam at the request thread. so awsome i love Stream of Conicousness too (i know i didnt spellit right). maybe a stupid question. but how is Ytse jam Pronounced? like by letter? or is it an acutal word??
Yit-see

[Lord Abortion]

I just realized that "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" sounds way more U2ish than "I Walk Beside You".
I walk beside you is probably my favourite track on octavarium.
That and these walls...oh and The answer lies within...

[MAthiAS]

I just realized that "Lifting Shadows Off a Dream" sounds way more U2ish than "I Walk Beside You".
But LSOAD isn't crappy.

[the2stranger]

some parts of I walk Besides You are good too

[scenesfromatheater]

I walk beside you is probably my favourite track on octavarium.
That and these walls...oh and The answer lies within...

huh? what about Octavarium

[Lord Abortion]

huh? what about Octavarium
That track rules supremely too!

It's a wonderful album...

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

wow, i find it really easy to memorise the instumedly, i just can't play it. I wouldnt be able to play it in about 10 years more of guitar playing probably. can you actually play all the different sections but not all together.


i'll look at it, and then play it, then forget it, i remember the first like 3 minutes of it, and the paradigm shift part

[GenuineImitation]

I like the album Octavarium. Its not my favorite, but I think it is better than everyone gives it credit for.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

like It's a Jam (It's also Majesty backwards, Dream Theater's original name)

EDIT: sorry for double post


whoa

[scenesfromatheater]

i'll look at it, and then play it, then forget it, i remember the first like 3 minutes of it, and the paradigm shift part

wow, i think your avatar is right when it comes to guitar playing.

[Oni Link]

I am so loving DT's cover of Gangland right now (just downloaded album). Discuss.

[Metallion#666]

I've been told i shouldnt buy Octavarium. That its crap. Is this true?

[Oni Link]

It's half good, half crap. I love Sacrificed Songs, it's really ****ing ace. The Root of All Evil and Panic Attack are also good imo, and Octavarium has its moments. I don't really listen to the other songs much.

EDIT: Not half crap, just half so-so.

[GenuineImitation]

I've been told i shouldnt buy Octavarium. That its crap. Is this true?


I would recommend it. Its a pretty good album and there is only one song I dont like on it.

[Lord Abortion]

I would recommend it. Its a pretty good album and there is only one song I dont like on it.
So would I, the more melodic songs are up there with surrounded and wait for sleep IMO

[Metallion#666]

So would I, the more melodic songs are up there with surrounded and wait for sleep IMO

Cool I'll probably buy it. I still love I&W though. Take the time Owns.

By the way John P's solo stuff kind-of sucks

[GenuineImitation]

Cool I'll probably buy it. I still love I&W though. Take the time Owns.

By the way John P's solo stuff kind-of sucks


Good choice. Its good, but it is not I&W.

[Lord Abortion]

Good choice. Its good, but it is not I&W.
Yeah...nothing is...
it's simply one of the best albums ever written