Dream Theater

[Tails]

when are they touring in new york or mass. i need to see them. the only bands ive ever seen in concert are metallica, tool, and apc (and some rapper guy who came to williams once, i forget his name). i really want to ****ing see dream theater

They should be touring North America with their Evening With... tour sometime around March/April '06, so you'll just have to wait a few months and then you will be able to see them.

[6-String_Slinger]

They should be touring North America with their Evening With... tour sometime around March/April '06, so you'll just have to wait a few months and then you will be able to see them.


how sure are you and what makes you so sure, because i already got screwed when gigantour didn't come to MN, so i need my fix

[thunderzstruck]

how sure are you and what makes you so sure, because i already got screwed when gigantour didn't come to MN, so i need my fix


Dude, I live in Minnesota too! I was pissed when I found out they aren't comin over here

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

will they ever go to MA

[Tails]

how sure are you and what makes you so sure, because i already got screwed when gigantour didn't come to MN, so i need my fix

I'm sure that Mike mentioned something in the Gigantour chat about coming to North America for an Evening With... tour. Just dig around the Portnoy forum and you should be able to find something about it. Dream Theater would be stupid not to tour North America to promote Octavarium.

[PeEpHoLe_10]

will they ever go to MA

Will the bastards ever come to Australia? lol, i know the answer to that one, but i can still hope.

[loathed]

im sure they will tour...and go to australia. to be honest, if i'd to go for a DT gig. i'd only be there to see John Petrucci and Portnoy play...i dont really dig the music. i'd just love to see the members play. still a great band though. :thumb:

[nowitzki]

nowitzki, you seriously like 8vm better than six degres? the song drags on for pathcs of like 3-5 minutes where nothing happens. it's like drum beat+guitar riff............same thing but with crash cymbal..........

you gotta love the transition from goodnight kiss to solitary shell man, top notch!

The point I was making was 8VM seems more like one complete song, where as I see 6DOIT as being several songs all put together. 8VM does start slowly, but its really cool the way the song gradually builds and builds until the climax with LaBrie screaming.

Oh, and its 24th & 25th of October for me, my tickets arrived yesterday :p

[Shattered_Future]

Tomorrow = Gigantour. :D

Does anybody have any knowledge of what DT's setlist might be?

[ROH]

Tomorrow = Gigantour. :D

Does anybody have any knowledge of what DT's setlist might be?

The Root of All Evil has been played at all but a couple shows. So you should defnitely expect to see that. They might play The Glass Prison, they've been playing that a lot at the more recent Gigantours. You'll also most likely see Panic Attack played. Other songs that could be played are Lie, As I Am, Just Let Me Breathe, A Fortune in Lies, Never Enough, Endless Sacrifice, Fatal Tragedy, and Home among a couple others.

Also, chances are VERY high that you'll see the Pull Me Under/Metropolis mix as the encore.

[Shattered_Future]

Awesome... :D

I hope they play The Glass Prison...one of the best DT songs ever.

[ROH]

TGP was amazing live. Especially the jam at around 9 minutes.

So awesome.

[-:Vincent:-]

Their alright...pretty good drummer.

[MAthiAS]

Portnoy is so overrated its not even funny.

[3rdplanet]

Ordered my DT tickets today, gonna rock.

Portnoy's playing was best on SFAM.

His fills where he trades from between his feet and hands sound great but he does use them like all the time.

[inasymphonyxmood]

AHHHHH 2 days til GIGANTOUR!!!!! MY FAV 4 bands! DREAM THEATER MEGADETH NEVERMORE SYMPHONY X! anybody else coming to the show on wednesday in nj?

[MAthiAS]

I am, where you sitting?

[thunderzstruck]

I hope DT comes here in the spring

[Shattered_Future]

Portnoy is so overrated its not even funny.

True that. He's decent...not the best, but decent.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

I hope DT comes here in the spring


its summer here

[inasymphonyxmood]

secion 303 row E what about you?

[MAthiAS]

secion 303 row E what about you?
Section 302 Row S

[Lord of Sword]

The Root of All Evil has been played at all but a couple shows. So you should defnitely expect to see that. They might play The Glass Prison, they've been playing that a lot at the more recent Gigantours. You'll also most likely see Panic Attack played. Other songs that could be played are Lie, As I Am, Just Let Me Breathe, A Fortune in Lies, Never Enough, Endless Sacrifice, Fatal Tragedy, and Home among a couple others.

Do they ever do songs off Awake much at all live? I can't remember ever hearing a live version of any songs off that album, but I'm going to see them in October and would love them to play something off that album. I'd assume though that in recent years at least, James' voice wouldn't be able to handle a lot of the songs, considering he was so amazing on this disc. Hearing him live in the last few months though it sounds like he could reach most of those notes again now.

[thunderzstruck]

its summer here


shocking

[ROH]

Do they ever do songs off Awake much at all live? I can't remember ever hearing a live version of any songs off that album, but I'm going to see them in October and would love them to play something off that album. I'd assume though that in recent years at least, James' voice wouldn't be able to handle a lot of the songs, considering he was so amazing on this disc. Hearing him live in the last few months though it sounds like he could reach most of those notes again now.

James did an amazing job live. Much better than I expected him to be.

They haven't been playing a lot of songs off Awake at Gigantour. The only other song they've played from Awake is Caught in a Web.

But, if they play Lie, expect it to be ace. It was my favorite song of the whole concert. Amazing rendition.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

whats your favorite song by them

[Moses]

They played Lie and Caught in a Web.

[ROH]

whats your favorite song by them


Learning to Live and A Change of Seasons

[Trivium]

And ive actually just BOUGHT octavarium. I bought a cd wow.

But anyways, they have a massive amount of albums and I dont know where to go next. I completely love this album and think their a great band.

Im just looking for some recommendations, songs, albums. Anything really.

Peace

[MAthiAS]

Awake and Images and Words are their best albums... songs, check out Scarred, Take the Time, Learning to Live, The Glass Prison, Pull Me Under, for a start :thumb:

[clairvoyant]

Awake and Images and Words are their best albums... songs, check out Scarred, Take the Time, Learning to Live, The Glass Prison, Pull Me Under, for a start :thumb:
123123 Don't forget to check out some of the stuff from Metropolis Part 2 as well, while not their best it still contains some great songs like Beyond This Life.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, that's probably my favorite song off SFAM. Other than that song, I think its really overrated though.

But seriously, the last 3 songs on Awake are Dream Theater's best IMO.

[clairvoyant]

Yeah, that's probably my favorite song off SFAM. Other than that song, I think its really overrated though.

But seriously, the last 3 songs on Awake are Dream Theater's best IMO.

Space Dye Vest and Scarred > rest of Awake+Change of Seasons+Falling Into Infinity

[MAthiAS]

Lifting Shadows Off A Dream too.

And then off Images, I'd say Take the Time, Metropolis, and Wait For Sleep + Learning to Live pwn the rest.

[clairvoyant]

Yes definitely I personally love Under A Glass Moon as well

[MAthiAS]

Its a great song, but I prefer those others.

Take the Time is NEVER mentioned, it was the song I first got hooked on DT with.

[clairvoyant]

Take The Time was originally my favorite song off that album, but eventually it mutated into Metropolis. I still love it though.

[MAthiAS]

Take the Time > Learning to Live > Metropolis

IMO. All great though.

[clairvoyant]

Indeed, still a classic album.

[MAthiAS]

Very.

Oh yeah, and Blind Faith, that song is ace, but overshadowed by The Glass Prison.

[Trivium]

Whats dream theaters big song. Like master of puppets is to metallica. The one song where the crowd hears the first few notes and just goes insane.

[clairvoyant]

Hmm...

Metropolis? Pretty dang hard to decide it might even be Under A Glass Moon or The Glass Prison.

[JonG]

The Glass Prison got me into DT. Good song. After that, Pull Me Under, then Under A Glass Moon

[MAthiAS]

Probably The Glass Prison is their most known song I guess.

[extreme_191]

Awake and Images and Words are their best albums... songs, check out Scarred, Take the Time, Learning to Live, The Glass Prison, Pull Me Under, for a start :thumb:

Glass Prison is from 6th Degrees, but it still kicks butt.

Images and Words just owns IMO. Awake is very good along with Metro Pt.2 and a Change of Seasons.

Under a Glass Moon is my favourite Petrucci solo. Well at least I think it is for now. :thumb:

[vashts80]

Pull Me Under or Metropolis are the MoP-esque crowd reaction songs, probably...on Budokan they get a MAJOR pop when the opening of PMU starts.

[rippa32]

I've got the Train of Thought album and absolutely love it, although I heard it was the heaviest they have ever done, can anyone recommend me a very typical Dream Theater album?

[grim tr00 kvlt]

I've got the Train of Thought album and absolutely love it, although I heard it was the heaviest they have ever done, can anyone recommend me a very typical Dream Theater album?
I don't like Dream Theater much at all, but I would recommend "Awake".

[Triangle]

Yeah, that's probably my favorite song off SFAM. Other than that song, I think its really overrated though.

But seriously, the last 3 songs on Awake are Dream Theater's best IMO.
Quite possibly. I think Awake's got the best line up of amazing songs.

[inasymphonyxmood]

haha MATHIAS i'll see you there man what town are you from?

[nowitzki]

I've got the Train of Thought album and absolutely love it, although I heard it was the heaviest they have ever done, can anyone recommend me a very typical Dream Theater album?

I'd definatly recommend SFAM. IMO their best album alongside I&W.
The whole album just flows perfectly, and has all the elements that make DT awesome.

and I don't know why people think Portnoy is over rated - I doubt you can name many Rock and Metal drummers as good as him.

[Moses]

Whats dream theaters big song. Like master of puppets is to metallica. The one song where the crowd hears the first few notes and just goes insane.
Definately has to be The Glass Prison. After that Pull Me Under.

[Shattered_Future]

I've got the Train of Thought album and absolutely love it, although I heard it was the heaviest they have ever done, can anyone recommend me a very typical Dream Theater album?

Typical?

SFAM has pretty much everything DT is about...great solos, great music, and an epic story laid out over 12 (12? I'm guessing) tracks to boot. Well worth the money you spend on it (or the bandwith you use to download it. :p )

7 hours till Gigantour. :D

[Triangle]

Buy Scenes From A Memory so you can follow the story along with the album booklet. :)

[Moses]

Be prepared for the show of your life Shattered.

[Shattered_Future]

Be prepared for the show of your life Shattered.

Don't worry...I've been looking forward to this from June.

[Moses]

DON'T MISS DEP!!! I'll have to kill you. Even if you don't like them don't miss the show.

[Arrakakaka]

DON'T MISS DEP!!! I'll have to kill you. Even if you don't like them don't miss the show.
I wish I could go. DEP are so awesome, I'm still figuring out bits and pieces of "Sugar Coated Sour" on bass.

[Moses]

The guitarists can shred when they want to also. I mean listen to parts of 43% Burnt.

It's weird because they have all that originality coming out of the hardcore scene.

[Shattered_Future]

I STILL don't see why DEP is so good...it sounds like a whole bunch of chaotic noise to me.

I hear they put on a good show, though...might stick around. ;)

[ROH]

I STILL don't see why DEP is so good...it sounds like a whole bunch of chaotic noise to me.

I hear they put on a good show, though...might stick around. ;)

I only caught Nevermore, Symphony X, Dream Theater and of course Megadeth. All put on a ****ing fantastic show. Make sure you catch them all.

We just kinda stood around outside when Fear Factory was on, we had absolutley no intention to see them.

We didn't see DEP because they were on when Symphony X was on. There's no way I'm missing Symphony X for DEP.

[Shattered_Future]

I have full intention to see ALL of those...

Might stick around for Fear Factory...their drummer is crazy.

[inasymphonyxmood]

I'm going to the show tomarrow, how does the 2 stage thing work? 2 bands playing at the same time? How is that possible? I have a pair of tix to some seats, is that for main stage? Is second stage just standing room for everybody? ahhhhh somebody that's been to the show, HELP ME, i don't wana miss nevermore, symp x, and life of agony

[ArcLite]

They're not simultanious. 2nd stage plays the first part of the day, then main stage. Worry not, you'll get to see it all. There may be a small overlap when they change over, though.

[inasymphonyxmood]

awesome im so stoaked!

[inasymphonyxmood]

anybody know dream theater's set list on the gigantour?

[inasymphonyxmood]

6 hours!!!!!!!!! IM SO HAPPPPPPPPPPY

[ROH]

Also expect to hear Panic Attack along with some of the songs Med57 mentioned.

[Arrakakaka]

Dream Theater and DEP are a wierd combination, but it still works.

[supreme maidenite]

did any of you here about the cover of pantera's 'cemetary gates' that dream theater and dave mustaine did?

[Shattered_Future]

Dream Theater was brilliant last night...no other word for it.

The lights dimmed, and the crowd started to stir...then some weird staticy noise came in. I had a hunch what the song would be...turns out i was right. As the first bells rang, the crowd went nuts...then that great bass riff comes in, and the whole band started The Glass Prison as their opener. One of the best openers I've ever seen, save for Symphony X's opener, Inferno.

Anyway, Dream Theater proceeded to play a sort of "greatest hits" set...one of the best setlists I've ever seen. It included, but wasn't limited to: The Glass Prison, Home, Lie, A Fortune In Lies (I think), Pull Me Under/Metropolis Pt. 1, As I Am, and others.

I think the best part was, though, when Portney brought out the drummer from Death onstage, and both of them proceeded to play Portney's drumset. They did beats from many different songs, including Hot For Teacher (Van Halen), Run To The Hills (Iron Maiden), a Megadeth song, and various others.

If you have the chance, definately catch DT on this tour. One of the greatest shows I've ever seen.

[Tails]

Pull Me Under or Metropolis are the MoP-esque crowd reaction songs, probably...on Budokan they get a MAJOR pop when the opening of PMU starts.

Or when Instrumedley starts off with the DoE/Metropolis effect and they are all excited and cheering, then it goes into DoE and they all sit down. Classic moment right there.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

i'm going to a dream theater/ megadeth gigatour on friday at the boston pavilion, anyone else going??

[Chu]

Dream Theater was brilliant last night...no other word for it.

The lights dimmed, and the crowd started to stir...then some weird staticy noise came in. I had a hunch what the song would be...turns out i was right. As the first bells rang, the crowd went nuts...then that great bass riff comes in, and the whole band started The Glass Prison as their opener. One of the best openers I've ever seen, save for Symphony X's opener, Inferno.

Anyway, Dream Theater proceeded to play a sort of "greatest hits" set...one of the best setlists I've ever seen. It included, but wasn't limited to: The Glass Prison, Home, Lie, A Fortune In Lies (I think), Pull Me Under/Metropolis Pt. 1, As I Am, and others.

I think the best part was, though, when Portney brought out the drummer from Death onstage, and both of them proceeded to play Portney's drumset. They did beats from many different songs, including Hot For Teacher (Van Halen), Run To The Hills (Iron Maiden), a Megadeth song, and various others.

If you have the chance, definately catch DT on this tour. One of the greatest shows I've ever seen.
So good :thumb:

[vashts80]

It's unfortunate that I'm going to miss Symphony X and Dillenger when I go see Gigantour on Sunday at the House of Blues in AC :(

My dad is taking me and he's not going to sit through a 7/8 hour concert, so we're going at 5 or 6 when it starts at (I believe) 3

[inasymphonyxmood]

OMMMMGGGG, JUST WENT TO GIGNATOUR LAST NIGHT! BEST CONCERT EVVVVEERRR.
The vibe you feel is not describable. SYMPHONY X WAS FUCCKING AMAZING why were they on 2nd stage with only 30 minute set? The crowd demanded another song after they were finished, and luckily we got one- a pantera cover (SWEET).
Michael Romeo=god. Dream theater fuccking ruled the stage, and megadeth -OMG MEGADETH. NEVERMORE RULED, FEAR FACTORY was better than i expected. This is how i rank the performances: 1. Symphony X 2. Megadeth 3. Dream Theater 4. Nevermore 5. Fear Factory 6. DEP bobaflex and dry kill logic absolutely suck btw

[the2stranger]

they played the Glass Prison live? :eek:

I wasn't there!!!
/cries

I must go when they play here in oktober

[juggalotricksta]

I would give my left nut to see DT live, but unless they come to Seattle, I dont think its gonna happen for me. :upset:

[Ollie The Drumming Legend]

TAMA Drums Rule!!!!!!!!!!

TAMA drums also cost about 40 trillion pounds..


but anyway, i got my first DT album last week in france (they seem to have better music shops there), it was some really new one called Octavarium. i looked on amazon for it but they didnt have it so it must be pretty new i guess.... anyway, i thought it was pretty cool, much more coherant than i expected. i expected mroe pointless wankery but i was dissapointed (or un-dis-appointed :confuse:).

anyway, they seem to have a pretty solid rhythm and it seems to flow even with the wierd rhythms and time signatures. the drummer's good, to be sure, and he does a load of stuff i cant get near at the moment, but then again so do most pro drummers. to me it seemed a bit more accessible than tool. they also use more 'way-out' stuff.


hmm but anyway i really liked it, so i might get another. amazon couldnt decide which was best so i might go for liquid tension experiment or something...

[Cousin_Ed]

it seemed a bit more accessible than tool. they also use more 'way-out' stuff.


Yeah but Maynard James Keenan is a total moron, I really dispise him>_<, tool should have Dio! :lol:

Octavirium is awesome, the melodic chorus on The root of all evil reminds me of muse for some reason.

[pizzapie88]

I'm bored, here's my ideal DT detlist if I were ever to see them:

The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
The Root of All Evil
Metropolis Part 1
YTSE Jam
Lie
The Spirit Carries On
Trail of Tears
Panic Attack
As I Am
The Dance of Eternity
Pull Me Under
Scarred
New Millennium
The Killing Hand
Home
Disappear

Encore

Octavarium

That is roughly a 3 hour set (I hope).

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I woudl give my left nut just to see them play The Glass Prison live.

[Chu]

I have to agree, I would too.
I don't need it anyway :naughty:

Edit: What's wrong with Mr Petrucci though??! Please see this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/papa_shank/11DTGigan72605Alina_001.jpg)

[metallica fan]

ive just downloaded panic room and its amazing and i have suspended animation but whats the best dream theater album? I only have nuff money for one

[Cousin_Ed]

Scenes from a memory!!!


np: Eric Clapton - Layla >_>

[3rdplanet]

Edit: What's wrong with Mr Petrucci though??! Please see this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/papa_shank/11DTGigan72605Alina_001.jpg)

My God, he looks like Wayne Static. :confused:

Can't wait to see DT, about 2 months now.

I wish they would play Space Dye Vest but it's just not going to happen, no matter how much I wish.

[Darkness]

I finally bought Awake today... pretty different from Train of Thought and 6 Degrees... but I heard this one takes time to grow on you.

[3rdplanet]

Awake was the first DT album I bought, took quite a while for it to grow on me.

[Chu]

Same, but I really love it now.

[trev913]

I have to agree, I would too.
I don't need it anyway :naughty:

Edit: What's wrong with Mr Petrucci though??! Please see this (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/papa_shank/11DTGigan72605Alina_001.jpg)

Oh my gosh. My mum used to think he was the most awesome thing since sliced bread (with short hair, and the slight goatee), but now she thinks he's not attractive at all.

Anyway, I like Awake. It has my favorite Dream Theater songs ever on it, so I didn't have to let it grow on me.

(my favorite DT songs are Space-Dye Vest and Erotomania)

[Darkness]

I really like The Mirror and Lie.

[Chu]

Petrucci was awesome with long hair, and then for a small time after he got it cut he still looked decent. These days.. What the ****?! Mid Life crisis already :evil:

[3rdplanet]

There's one thing wrong with Awake, and that's (The?) Silent Man.

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Yeah, but otherwise Awake is a good solid album

[Lord of Sword]

i don't mind the silent man too much. i do like the LSFNY version a lot more though, with that heavier part towards the end, except i'm not sure that version would fit as well in A Mind Beside Itself on the album.

[Juicy_Forlorn]

Scenes from a memory!!!


np: Eric Clapton - Layla >_>

I second that!

[thunderzstruck]

There's one thing wrong with Awake, and that's (The?) Silent Man.


wtf I love that song, if anything it's Lifting shadows off a dream. I LOVE the acoustic guitar solo during Silent Man

[Darkness]

Petrucci was awesome with long hair, and then for a small time after he got it cut he still looked decent. These days.. What the ****?! Mid Life crisis already :evil:
He's gone metal. Its the way it should be. :thumb: :lol:

[trev913]

I enjoy both versions of The Silent Man, but definitely the LSFNY version a lot more, thanks to the solos.

[ROH]

I really like The Mirror and Lie.

Lie owns live.

[static]

Here's mine:

A Change of Seasons
6:00
Innocence Faded
The Mirror
New Millenium
Hell's Kitchen
Just Let Me Breathe
Pull Me Under
Under a Glass Moon
Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
Beyond This Life
Home
The Spirit Carries On F/Theresa Thomason
Blind Faith
Great Debate
6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence
A Fortune In Lies
Only a Matter of Time
Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium
In the Name of God
Honor Thy Father

ENCORE

This Dying Soul

Do you have any idea how long that would be? Like 6 hours or something.

[vashts80]

Well, ACOS and Octavarium combined are almost an hour, 6DOIT and ITNOG combined are an hour, so there's two hours for that. Hah

[ROH]

Here's mine:

6:00
The Glass Prison
The Root of All Evil
A Fortune in Lies
Lie
Take the Time
Scarred
Octavarium
Metropolis
Overture 1928
Beyond This Life
War Inside my Head
The Test that Sumped Them All
Stream of Consciousness
Under a Glass Moon
A Change of Seasons

Encore

Learning to Live

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Okay, Here we go:

1) The Root of All Evil
2) This Dying Soul
3) Erotomania
4) Hollow Years(with that awesome solo by Petrucci that they did last tour)
5) Hell's Kitchen
6) Beyond This Life
7) War Inside My Head
8) The Test That Stumped Them All
9) Status Seeker
10) Caught in A Web

Intermission

11) 6:00
12) Metroplois pt. 1
13) Lifting Shadows off a Dream
14) Trial of Tears
15) These Walls
16) Take The Time
17) Stream of Consciousness
18) Ytse Jam

Encore

19) The Glass Prison
20) A Fortune in Lies
21) Pull Me Under

[Darkness]

You guys are leaving all the awesome stuff on Train Of Thought... which disappoints me greatly.

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Yeah, but I saw the Train of Thought tour, so if I saw them again, i would like to see some rarer stuff

[Darkness]

Oh ok, I understand then.

[Reywas]

Taken from DT faq

There are many special things about LSFNY:

- It marked Jordan's first live album with the band
- It's the first time the band has released "A Mind Beside Itself" in its entirity on a live album.
- It's the first time a version of the complete "A Change of Seasons" has been available on a live release.
- The show itself lasted well over 3 hours, after which MP passed out and was almost taken to hospital

Is this what you're refering to?

[Reywas]

I have the DVD and SFAM performance is amazing.And the supporting tracks are awesome.I mean you get Learning To Live, Metropolis Pt.1 and A Change Of Seasons.
+John Petrucci plays the Simpsons theme on A Change Of Seasons.

Well worth the money IMO.

[demon_LLAMA]

+John Petrucci plays the Simpsons theme on A Change Of Seasons.


WOOOAHHHH!!! TOTALLY AWESOMMMME!!!!!!!!!YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[1One1]

Question:

Today I bought Scenes From A Memory II and am quite fond of it. I had a look on progarchives.com and I couldn't find a album entitled Scenes From a Memory. Is it under a different title? If so, could somebody post it for me? Thanks


(PS: Kindly do not tell me to RTFT. The ****ing thread is 106 pages long!)

[Reywas]

Question:

Today I bought Scenes From A Memory II and am quite fond of it. I had a look on progarchives.com and I couldn't find a album entitled Scenes From a Memory. Is it under a different title? If so, could somebody post it for me? Thanks


(PS: Kindly do not tell me to RTFT. The ****ing thread is 106 pages long!)

Try Metropolis Pt.2

[1One1]

Sorry: I'm not to familiar with DT yet.

Do you mean that I'm looking for Metropolis Part 2 or the album I have is Metropolis Part 2? I'd look, but I kinda left it in my car. I'd get it, but at the moment it's a tender 3 degrees celsius and raining.

[Chu]

Nah, the first song is called Metropolis Part I from Images and Words.
The album Scenes From a Memory is like an extension to the first song (hence Metropolis Part II).

Edit: If you get what I mean?

[Reywas]

Scenes From A Memory = Metropolis Pt.2

[1One1]

Ahhhaaa I getchya now. Thanks people. I was thinking they did a double-album thingy like The Wall or Mezmerise\Hypnotise etc. etc. etc.

[Ollie The Drumming Legend]

Yeah but Maynard James Keenan is a total moron, I really dispise him>_<, tool should have Dio! :lol:

Octavirium is awesome, the melodic chorus on The root of all evil reminds me of muse for some reason.

i couldnt agree more.

yeah well i think the muse thing is due to the harmonics with the 'dramatic' vocals, if you know what i mean, and the piano ( i am thinking of the right song, right?)...

anyway, the album in general does slightly to me... i seem to remember when muse were first emerging saying they could bring about a comeback in prog, so there def. is something there i think. anyway, i like both bands hugely.

by the way.. anyone... octavarium was my first DT album, and i like it a load, so what would people recommend me getting next ... (im probly getting a job in a call centre for the next 2 weeks, you get pretty big bonuses if you actually persuade anyone to buy anything lol, and if u recommend well i promise i wont phone u lol)

[thunderzstruck]

Ahhhaaa I getchya now. Thanks people. I was thinking they did a double-album thingy like The Wall or Mezmerise\Hypnotise etc. etc. etc.


6 Degrees of inner Turbulance was a double album

[MRDuCran]

I'm gonna post a song that i downloaded but it says its The Root of all Evil but when i checked the tabs on powertab and Guitar Pro, none of them match up to the song so could any of you tell what song this actually is? Thanks

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G8R54EX788H220SK5P4UI9T7D

[ROH]

I'm gonna post a song that i downloaded but it says its The Root of all Evil but when i checked the tabs on powertab and Guitar Pro, none of them match up to the song so could any of you tell what song this actually is? Thanks

http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G8R54EX788H220SK5P4UI9T7D

That's 'Crucify'. It's a song off of James Labrie's solo album 'Elements of Persausion.'

[Darkness]

I listened to Awake for the second time today, and damn I love that cd now. Its well built, and the last song finishes it perfectly.

[Arrakakaka]

Taken from DT faq

There are many special things about LSFNY:

- It marked Jordan's first live album with the band
- It's the first time the band has released "A Mind Beside Itself" in its entirity on a live album.
- It's the first time a version of the complete "A Change of Seasons" has been available on a live release.
- The show itself lasted well over 3 hours, after which MP passed out and was almost taken to hospital

Is this what you're refering to?
Interesting.

[nowitzki]

I have the DVD and SFAM performance is amazing.And the supporting tracks are awesome.I mean you get Learning To Live, Metropolis Pt.1 and A Change Of Seasons.
+John Petrucci plays the Simpsons theme on A Change Of Seasons.

Well worth the money IMO.

The set they played in New York was absolutely incredible, and the LSFNY CD is amazing. However I do find the DVD very dissapointing, half of the set isn't even included, and Mike Portnoy's directing is absolutely dreadful. The way it is shot is very boring, just one camera in front of each member, very few shots of the whole stage and the crowd, plus its filled with loads of cheesy camera effects that look pants. And then ther's the cheesy cut sences and acting to accompany the SFAM story.
Obviously still worth getting if you're a DT fan, but the DVD could have been so much better considering the performance.

[trev913]

The LSFNY CD is stellar. That is the only word that comes to mind when I imagine it.

My Dream Theater Set List:

A Change of Seasons
As I Am
In the Name Of God
Home
Erotomania
The Silent Man

Intermission

Panic Attack
The Glass Prison
Through My Words
Through Her Eyes f/ Theresa Thompson (and the JP guitar solo)
The Spirit Carries On
Finally Free

Encore

Metropolis pt. 1
Space Dye Vest*

* = Intriguing fact, from the DT FAQ, this song is one of two that DT has never played live. I'd love to hear it. Also from the DTFAQ, there was originally a plan for Moore to come back for the LSFNY CD/DVD and play Space Dye Vest as a one-time-only thing. But he refused.

[MRDuCran]

That's 'Crucify'. It's a song off of James Labrie's solo album 'Elements of Persausion.'


Wicked, thanks man!

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

i went to the gigatour and while megadeth was playing, me and my freinds wnated to meet dream theater so we asked around and eventually we got to go back and meet dream theater!!, and earlier i met megadeth!!

[MRDuCran]

Who did you ask.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

Who did you ask.


people that worked there, he sed no then he chased us down, i thought we were in trouble then he sed i have a present for you , so he took us back there, i met the keyboardist, and john petrucci

[clairvoyant]

Thats pretty sweet, how was the show?

[nowitzki]

* = Intriguing fact, from the DT FAQ, this song is one of two that DT has never played live.

What is the other? (or you could just tell me where this DT FAQ is)

[shamed-angel]

* = Intriguing fact, from the DT FAQ, this song is one of two that DT has never played live.
They never played it live because it was entirely composed by Kevin Moore, who left shortly after the album was released. MP said they intended to play the Awake album in it's entirety ont he last night of the tour for it, but Kevin had left and it was his song, so they decided against it.

[MRDuCran]

people that worked there, he sed no then he chased us down, i thought we were in trouble then he sed i have a present for you , so he took us back there, i met the keyboardist, and john petrucci

Nice, i might have to try that at my next gig, hopefully Lamb of God or Bodom.

[shamed-angel]

Nice, i might have to try that at my next gig, hopefully Lamb of God or Bodom.
I shared a cigarette with the drummer from Lamb of God in my local record store.

[Animus Light]

Lamb of God came from my best friend's university. KInda cool.

Anyway.. DT is awesome, but I'm largely disappointed with Octavarium (otehr than a few tracks).

[MRDuCran]

Lucky people.

[kidthatplaysguitar91]

Lucky people.

it was a small concert at the boston pavilion so i dont know about any BIG places, like theirs no way you would do it at a place thats alot bigger with alot more ppl

[Arrakakaka]

"Yste Jam" is the only reason to listen to When Dream And Day Unite. I should just delete the other tracks, but the album does have a few good moments.

[Arrakakaka]

i went to the gigatour and while megadeth was playing, me and my freinds wnated to meet dream theater so we asked around and eventually we got to go back and meet dream theater!!, and earlier i met megadeth!!
One of my friend's friends met both of them. Thats awesome.

[MAthiAS]

Dream Theater's Gigantour set really sucked honestly, the only cool things they did were play In the Name of God, Lie and a Pull Me Under and Metropolis medley. No Home, no Beyond this Life, no Learning to Live, no Glass Prison, no As I Am, etc etc etc.

[tehnick]

Dream Theater's Gigantour set really sucked honestly, the only cool things they did were play In the Name of God, Lie and a Pull Me Under and Metropolis medley. No Home, no Beyond this Life, no Learning to Live, no Glass Prison, no As I Am, etc etc etc.

Did they play **** or was it just a bad setlist choice?

[MAthiAS]

Setlist was poor, the playing was good, the venue had some really weird reverb that made everything muddy sounding though.

That show made me realize how much I really hate new heavy DT, and also how Myung is probably the most talented and coolest member of the band.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Do they even play The Glass Prison often live?

[vashts80]

They don't play it often now, but they opened most dates of the 6DOIT tour with it afaik. I hope the set for me tomorrow it's the same as yours was, MAthiAS, cos if it was then I'm gonna cry..or something. Oh well, at least I'm seeing them live.

[Chu]

That show made me realize how much I really hate new heavy DT, and also how Myung is probably the most talented and coolest member of the band.
Although I've never seen them Live, I'll agree to that.
But MP is also extremely talented imo..

[the2stranger]

it is so cool , the bass solo on metropolis part 1, if they play it live, you hear all kind of things in the bass solo that you don't hear on cd.
that solo rocks so hard

[nowitzki]

Dream Theater's Gigantour set really sucked honestly, the only cool things they did were play In the Name of God, Lie and a Pull Me Under and Metropolis medley. No Home, no Beyond this Life, no Learning to Live, no Glass Prison, no As I Am, etc etc etc.

I personally think that's what makes DT an awesome band to see live, the fact that they can change their set every night.
LSFNY and Budokan have completely different sets except for one song, yet they are both amazing 3 hour sets. There isn't much DT that I don't like so I doubt any set would dissapoint me too much. Hmm, well maybe the following would:

Goodnight Kiss
Dissapear
Lines in the sand
Anna Lee
The Silent Man
Eve
Through her eyes
The Answer lies within

... but I wouldn't mind any of them if they were part of a set with other songs I liked.

[Deconstruction]

Dream theater live are amazing. I would love to see any of their songs live again...

[Deconstruction]

Setlist was poor, the playing was good, the venue had some really weird reverb that made everything muddy sounding though.

That show made me realize how much I really hate new heavy DT, and also how Myung is probably the most talented and coolest member of the band.
Panic attack intro live :amaze:

[Shattered_Future]

Dream Theater's Gigantour set really sucked honestly, the only cool things they did were play In the Name of God, Lie and a Pull Me Under and Metropolis medley. No Home, no Beyond this Life, no Learning to Live, no Glass Prison, no As I Am, etc etc etc.

Ouch...

The show I went to, I know they played 3 out of the 5 tracks that they didn't play there...Home, TGP, and As I Am. I know they didn't play Beyond This Life, and I don't know about the other one.

DT was stellar live...only little complaint is they didn't interact with the audience AT ALL. They just kinda stood there, and moved around ever so little.

Portney was interesting to watch, with his drumstick throwing and whatnot.

[Happy]

:( I'm not gonna be able to go see DT this October. I was looking forward to it all summer.

[clairvoyant]

DT was stellar live...only little complaint is they didn't interact with the audience AT ALL. They just kinda stood there, and moved around ever so little.


Yea I wish they would move around more, but oh well, at least they are one of the tightest live bands in the world :)

[billsfan257]

Yea i was there w/ shattered future, wut a great show, i wish they moved around alittle more too. But thier set was great at jones beach, they played: Lie, As I Am, Home, Glass Prision, Panick Attack, The Pull Me Under/Metropolis Encore, and a few others. One great thing was when they had Rich Christy and Mike Portony play drum solos together on the same set. Overall it was a great show from Dream Theater

[vashts80]

holy crap

The Root Of All Evil
A Fortune In Lies
Panic Attack
Under A Glass Moon
Endless Sacrifice
Caught In A Web
Just Let Me Breathe
Never Enough
Home
As I Am
---
Pull Me Under

was the set tonight in AC. I marked majorly for Home and As I Am. The last chorus of As I Am was the "eat my *** and balls" version, and Pull Me Under was cool. The first verse and chorus were normal speed, but the rest of the song was sped up. And Portnoy tore it up. He tried catching his stick a few times and missed, and his son was behind him playing air drums, haha

[Darkness]

"eat my *** and balls" version? I have to hear that!

[MAthiAS]

Man, why the hell was my setlist so horrible?

[1One1]

Alright, I've listened to Scenes from a Memory and love every second of it. I just have one problem:

I want more.

If I dig Scenes, what else from DT would I dig?

[Triangle]

Alright, I've listened to Scenes from a Memory and love every second of it. I just have one problem:

I want more.

If I dig Scenes, what else from DT would I dig?
Possibly Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence.

[red barchetta]

holy crap

The Root Of All Evil
A Fortune In Lies
Panic Attack
Under A Glass Moon
Endless Sacrifice
Caught In A Web
Just Let Me Breathe
Never Enough
Home
As I Am
---
Pull Me Under

was the set tonight in AC. I marked majorly for Home and As I Am. The last chorus of As I Am was the "eat my *** and balls" version, and Pull Me Under was cool. The first verse and chorus were normal speed, but the rest of the song was sped up. And Portnoy tore it up. He tried catching his stick a few times and missed, and his son was behind him playing air drums, haha
i thought they did "eat my *** and balls" with the fatal tragedy chorus :confused:

[Deth]

I'm listening to I&W for the first time, I'm liking it alot.

[Kurrpt]

went to Gigantour on Saturday.


Portnoy came out, I recognized his arse, and go to talk to him for a bit


Me : "so are you gonna spit like a camel for us" :D
portnoy : "you better believe it"

[the2stranger]

holy crap

The Root Of All Evil
A Fortune In Lies
Panic Attack
Under A Glass Moon
Endless Sacrifice
Caught In A Web
Just Let Me Breathe
Never Enough
Home
As I Am
---
Pull Me Under

was the set tonight in AC. I marked majorly for Home and As I Am. The last chorus of As I Am was the "eat my *** and balls" version, and Pull Me Under was cool. The first verse and chorus were normal speed, but the rest of the song was sped up. And Portnoy tore it up. He tried catching his stick a few times and missed, and his son was behind him playing air drums, haha

when i saw them Portnoy was thowing his sticks too all the time but he caught them every time.

he even threw a broken stick to his drum tech, who was standing 10 meter away, and the drum tech only noticed at the llast moment, so he quickly threw another stick, and portnoy caught it and went on playing.

that was a pretty good catch :p

[the nameless]

Ok i don't really know much about Dream Theatre but i'm trying to explore new bands and these guys sound good. so can anyone tell me what album would be a good one to start of with? and one thing, does the vocalist scream his vocals all the time or is it sung normally? just wondering 'cos im completely new to this band. thanks.

[Shattered_Future]

Yea i was there w/ shattered future, wut a great show, i wish they moved around alittle more too. But thier set was great at jones beach, they played: Lie, As I Am, Home, Glass Prision, Panick Attack, The Pull Me Under/Metropolis Encore, and a few others. One great thing was when they had Rich Christy and Mike Portony play drum solos together on the same set. Overall it was a great show from Dream Theater

Yea...was quite brilliant.

Dude above me...try either A Change Of Seasons (the song), Scenes From A Memory, or Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance (last 2 are albums)

[billsfan257]

Ok i don't really know much about Dream Theatre but i'm trying to explore new bands and these guys sound good. so can anyone tell me what album would be a good one to start of with? and one thing, does the vocalist scream his vocals all the time or is it sung normally? just wondering 'cos im completely new to this band. thanks.

I would also recomend the album Awake, one of their heaviest album, and a great one. O and Labrie sings normally, he doesn't scream.

[the2stranger]

Ok i don't really know much about Dream Theatre but i'm trying to explore new bands and these guys sound good. so can anyone tell me what album would be a good one to start of with? and one thing, does the vocalist scream his vocals all the time or is it sung normally? just wondering 'cos im completely new to this band. thanks.

ok
Dream Theater is a progressive Metal band.
featuring a guitarist, a bassist, a drummer, a keyboardist and a vocalist.
the songs are generaly quite long, and very technical
the vocals are clean, and mostly high in pitch.

I would recommend Images & Words as your first album.
it's there 2nd studio release, and shows the really progressive side of DT.
the album isn't all that heavy, and may sound a bit rockish even.

enjoy :)

[the nameless]

Wooo! thanks guys

[Blind Guardian]

Boy do I love Dream Theater, one of my most favorite bands. In my opinion they are easily the most talented band out there. Every single band member is one of the most talented musicians of their instrument and James LaBrie is one of my favorite vocalists too.

[static]

it was a small concert at the boston pavilion so i dont know about any BIG places, like theirs no way you would do it at a place thats alot bigger with alot more pplHey I went to that show too. What town do you live in?

[the2stranger]

small gigs rock.
I prefer them to big gigs by a longshot
I wonder if I will ever see DT in such a small gig :(

[MAthiAS]

small gigs rock.
I prefer them to big gigs by a longshot
I wonder if I will ever see DT in such a small gig :(
I think we missed our chances.

[the2stranger]

if only I became a fan 7 years ago :(

[shamed-angel]

Alright, I've listened to Scenes from a Memory and love every second of it. I just have one problem:

I want more.

If I dig Scenes, what else from DT would I dig?
Metropolis Pt 1: The Miracle and The Sleeper, from Images and Words, alot of the music in Scenes froma memory is a progression on this song. And this is the story that Scenes From A Memory was written about. The entire concept from that album is drawn from this song, which JP wrote the story/lyrics of.
Also, you might like to try the A Mind Beside Itself Trilogy of songs from Awake. One of my favourite suited songs from DT. Consists of:
Pt.1:Erotomania
Pt.2:Voices
Pt.3: The Silent man
Also, what, to everyone was the first Dt album you bought? Mine was Scenes from a Memory about a month after it came out, then I bought Live Scenes From New York the Day it came out in the UK, which was the 14th Sept 01, I spent ages looking for a copy of Live Scenes with the "Flaming Apple" cover. But couldn't find it. I remember Scenes astonished me so much. It still is my favourite Dt album, alongside I&W and Octavarium.

[the2stranger]

My first DT album was: Images & Words
and it's still my favorite

[Triangle]

bit rockish even.
heh, if not chessy.

Don't be put off by it, its great. :)

[Juicy_Forlorn]

Also, what, to everyone was the first Dt album you bought? Mine was Scenes from a Memory about a month after it came out, then I bought Live Scenes From New York the Day it came out in the UK, which was the 14th Sept 01, I spent ages looking for a copy of Live Scenes with the "Flaming Apple" cover. But couldn't find it. I remember Scenes astonished me so much. It still is my favourite Dt album, alongside I&W and Octavarium.

Mine was also Scenes from Memory. I was obsessed with it for soooo long. It's still my favorite album of theirs.

[billsfan257]

Also, what, to everyone was the first Dt album you bought? Mine was Scenes from a Memory about a month after it came out, then I bought Live Scenes From New York the Day it came out in the UK, which was the 14th Sept 01, I spent ages looking for a copy of Live Scenes with the "Flaming Apple" cover. But couldn't find it. I remember Scenes astonished me so much. It still is my favourite Dt album, alongside I&W and Octavarium.

My first DT album was Awake, great album and one of my favorites, but i dont have a clearcut favorite album by them.

[red barchetta]

my first was Images and Words

and the song that got me into DT in the first place was Take The Time. my all-time favourite DT song, along with Blind Faith

[3rdplanet]

My first was Awake and I think it may be my favorite still. Or maybe I&W is, not sure.

[shamed-angel]

my first was Images and Words

and the song that got me into DT in the first place was Take The Time. my all-time favourite DT song, along with Blind Faith
James sounds so god-damn camp on the intro where he says "Just let me catch my breath." but yeah, it is an awesome song. The video they filmed for it is so cheesy it's laughable.
Basically "JP's lesson in guitar god poses."

[red barchetta]

James sounds so god-damn camp on the intro where he says "Just let me catch my breath." but yeah, it is an awesome song. The video they filmed for it is so cheesy it's laughable.
Basically "JP's lesson in guitar god poses."
the video was awesome :lol:

i hate the way James screws up the song on once in a livetime :upset: he sounds terrible

[shamed-angel]

the video was awesome :lol:

i hate the way James screws up the song on once in a livetime :upset: he sounds terrible
The backdrop is the back cover of Images and Words, with the Pillars. Way cheesy. :lol:
I think that's easily their worst live album. The Keyboards are way too loud on The Crimson Sunrise and James's singing is way off the mark. My favourite song on there is Scarred, I thought they did that well, but I've never heard any other live version.

[mr black]

My first was 'The glass prison'. IMO that song would rock so much harder without vocals, but it's still awsome.

[shamed-angel]

My first was 'The glass prison'. IMO that song would rock so much harder without vocals, but it's still awsome.
Are you joking? James's vocals are incredible on that song! One of my favourites, and the first Dt song I learned all the way through on bass. :)

[Crudd-Bucket™]

Are you joking? James's vocals are incredible on that song! One of my favourites, and the first Dt song I learned all the way through on bass

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[Triangle]

My first DT album was Images And Words and Awake. At first I prefered I&W but after more and more listens the darker and heavier sound of Awake won me over.

[paranoid923]

My first DT album was awake but I'm not sure what my favorite is. My favorite changes alot.

Side Note: I'm attempting to get my Gigantour ticket signed by Rudess... has anyone here gotten stuff signed by DT

[billsfan257]

Side Note: I'm attempting to get my Gigantour ticket signed by Rudess... has anyone here gotten stuff signed by DT

I would watch my back if I were you Tom, because I will do anything to get that ticket. :)

[Josh]

out of interest, does John Myung play any songs on 4-String bass on Images and words, or Train of thought? i'm not buying a 6-stringer just for DT stuff. although soon i'm gonna have to buy my own bass anyway, because my mate wants his bass back :upset:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

First one I got was Images and Words, still my favorite. I find myself having trouble getting into 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence. I don't know what it is about it. I like The Glass Prison, but I feel it goes on too long. Everyone seems to love the Great Debate, but to me, it comes off as such a blatant Tool rip-off that I have a hard time enjoying it. The entire second disc just hasn't caught on to me and I've had the album for awhile. I don't know, I need to give it some more listens.

[RiceMonster]

On the topic of first DT or whatever, my first album was Scenes From a Memory, and I still love it. :)

[billsfan257]

Here's a link to a video with Labrie. Here he is talking about Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence and what it's about.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/view?&h=105&w=140&type=realmedia&rurl=www.beepworld.de%2Fmembers65%2Flimitedmember&vurl=realserver.kataweb.it%2Framgen%2Fvideob%2Fvid eo%2Fmusica%2Fdream_theater_250k.rm&back=p%3Ddream%2Btheater%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3Dslv1-adbe&turl=scd.mm-so.yimg.com%2Fimage%2F1792079386&name=<b>dream</b>_<b>theater</b>_250k.rm&no=2&tt=110&p=dream+theater&dur=1041&pld=690x520

[RiceMonster]

That link is a bit too small, don't ya think? :p

[Shattered_Future]

First album you BOUGHT by DT?

Can't say I have... :p

The first DT album I got was 6DOIT...I have no idea what my favorite is. They're all different, and good, in their own special way.

[MAthiAS]

But few are good in every way like Images and Awake.

[Darkness]

My first Dream Theater cd was Train Of Thought, followed by 6 Degrees, followed by Awake. So far Train Of Thought is still my favorite for some reason.

[Happy]

First one i bought was I&W.

[Josh]

i bought I&W and ToT at the same time, but i'd just borrowed I&W off a mate and thought it was great.

[billsfan257]

That link is a bit too small, don't ya think? :p

Just abit :)

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

It didn't even work for me. :angry:

[Bull with Gloves]

First full length album was Octavarium actually. Before that I had just bought singles or downloaded them.

[shamed-angel]

out of interest, does John Myung play any songs on 4-String bass on Images and words, or Train of thought? i'm not buying a 6-stringer just for DT stuff. although soon i'm gonna have to buy my own bass anyway, because my mate wants his bass back :upset:
He plays a 4 string for all the tracks on that album. He didn't play a 6string with Dt until the tour for that album.

[Josh]

ah...

/me goes to get bass tabs.

[shamed-angel]

The solo for Metropolis is great fun. I have a JM1 Torquoise Blue signiture 6 string. Which is stunning. My second most precious thing in the world. But the only Dt songs I can't play are Dance of Eternity and Octavarium, but Octavarium because I juist haven't got round to figuring it out yet. :p And Dance of Eternity because it's stupidly timed and the bass solo is stupidly fast.

[Chu]

But few are good in every way like Images and Awake.
True!

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

So, my friend let me borrow the Live at Budokan DVD and the Live in Tokyo/5 Years in a Livetime DVD. My respect for the band has grown even more. It's amazing how much fun they seem to have playing all the songs in concert. I loved the part where Portnoy brought people from the crowd do drum with him, that was so awesome. And I must say, they're music videos are really cheesy. :p So, discuss the dvds if you want.

[Darkness]

Awake is rocking my socks lately. :p

[ter2333]

Yeah they're DVD's could be better. The special effects on "Live Scenes from New York" look like one step above power point. Also some of the camera work on that DVD looks like it came from a camcorder. Overall it was done pretty well though, and you have to give credit because that entire DVD was directed by Mike Portnoy.

[Elmo McCheese]

Does anybody remember when Live Scenes from NY first came out right before September 11 and it included a picture of the World Trade Center on fire? I'm pretty sure they recalled it, but my guitar teacher has the original with the picture.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yeah they're DVD's could be better. The special effects on "Live Scenes from New York" look like one step above power point. Also some of the camera work on that DVD looks like it came from a camcorder. Overall it was done pretty well though, and you have to give credit because that entire DVD was directed by Mike Portnoy.

The quality of the Budokan dvd is great though, imo. And the Livetime one is also good (although it varies). The live in Tokyo one also looks pretty camcorder-ish.

[chaseharrell]

I just got into Dream Theater maybe a month and a half ago, and I am in total love with their music. I heard about them because I am a huge Tool fan, and most places I read about Tool, I saw things posted about Dream Theater.

First CD I got was actually the Live at Budokan CD set that I saw at a WalMart late one night. I was with some friends, and was actually quite shocked to see something by them at a WalMart. So I bought it and give it a few listens, and fell in love. The third CD out of that set is my favorite from it.

I later purchased Scenes from a Memory and Octavarium. Scenes hasn't left my computers CD drive since then, been about 3 weeks now. I listen to it clear through, I just love how it all flows together as one big story. Very cool. I haven't really grown to like Octavarium too much, just nothing from it that strongly catches my attention.

So my current favorite is Scenes, though I am wanting to get Images and Words, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. I am sure I'll like both of them. Also, as for DVD's, I also got the DVD set for Live at Budokan a week or two ago, and it really made me be in greater awe of them. JP does some pretty nutty fast alternate pickings, heh. Its just so awesome to actually see it instead of just hearing it. MP seems to be great at putting on a show while he's playing, with stick spins and flips and everything else, definitely a great performer and drummer.

Too bad I didn't really get into them in time to see them on Gigantour while it was in Ohio :-/ Maybe they'll do a tour with Tool once they release thier new CD (doubt a tour with both of them would happen though :-/ ).

[WheepingGuitar39]

I'm gonna see Dream Theatre tommorow night.
And I'm gonna turn 18 while they are playing.

Sweet.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I just got into Dream Theater maybe a month and a half ago, and I am in total love with their music. I heard about them because I am a huge Tool fan, and most places I read about Tool, I saw things posted about Dream Theater.

First CD I got was actually the Live at Budokan CD set that I saw at a WalMart late one night. I was with some friends, and was actually quite shocked to see something by them at a WalMart. So I bought it and give it a few listens, and fell in love. The third CD out of that set is my favorite from it.

I later purchased Scenes from a Memory and Octavarium. Scenes hasn't left my computers CD drive since then, been about 3 weeks now. I listen to it clear through, I just love how it all flows together as one big story. Very cool. I haven't really grown to like Octavarium too much, just nothing from it that strongly catches my attention.

So my current favorite is Scenes, though I am wanting to get Images and Words, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. I am sure I'll like both of them. Also, as for DVD's, I also got the DVD set for Live at Budokan a week or two ago, and it really made me be in greater awe of them. JP does some pretty nutty fast alternate pickings, heh. Its just so awesome to actually see it instead of just hearing it. MP seems to be great at putting on a show while he's playing, with stick spins and flips and everything else, definitely a great performer and drummer.

Too bad I didn't really get into them in time to see them on Gigantour while it was in Ohio :-/ Maybe they'll do a tour with Tool once they release thier new CD (doubt a tour with both of them would happen though :-/ ).

Glad to see a pretty new DT fan. If they went on tour with Tool, I would just be in total awe. I doubt it would happen, but anything's possible.

[Darkness]

Funny that was brought up, I just read in a 2002 interview with John Myung:

"Are there bands out there that you currently admire?"

"I really like TOOL, I think they are a great band."

[chaseharrell]

Glad to see a pretty new DT fan. If they went on tour with Tool, I would just be in total awe. I doubt it would happen, but anything's possible.

Yea, it would make for a great show. I could just imagine it, a 2 hour set by each of them, maybe even a 3 hour set by DT, heh. I would definitely need to bring a couple extra pairs of pants to the show if they played together, if ya know what I mean :)

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

It would certainly be an interesting show. They are almost completely different in style in everyway. Maybe the juxtaposition of the 2 band's sounds would create complete awesomeness. I'd rather see that than see Tool tour with Meshuggah again. I have no problem with Meshuggah, I think they are excellent musicians and not every band can name a song "New Millenium Cyanide Christ", but I guess they just aren't my cup of tea. I wouldn't mind hearing a song occasionally, but I didn't really think that they fit as an opening act for Tool. Anyone agree with me?

[Shattered_Future]

It would certainly be an interesting show. They are almost completely different in style in everyway. Maybe the juxtaposition of the 2 band's sounds would create complete awesomeness. I'd rather see that than see Tool tour with Meshuggah again. I have no problem with Meshuggah, I think they are excellent musicians and not every band can name a song "New Millenium Cyanide Christ", but I guess they just aren't my cup of tea. I wouldn't mind hearing a song occasionally, but I didn't really think that they fit as an opening act for Tool. Anyone agree with me?

Yea, Meshuggah's kinda more like Tool's big brother...more complex.

Tool and DT would be awesome...

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Yea, Meshuggah's kinda more like Tool's big brother...more complex.

Tool and DT would be awesome...

It's not really just that. Tool shouldn't have an opening act that is more agressive and heavier than them. I think Tool are better song writers, but they are really so different in style of music that I just thought it didn't fit at all. DT are also technically superior to Tool (although I happen to think Carey is better than Portnoy, both are great though imo), and I don't think they'd fit well with Tool either. I'm not really sure if I'm explaining myself well. It's just...I dont't think an opening band should outdo the main act in terms of playing. Plus, I think Meshuggah deserves to headline their own tour and I know Dream Theater does (they will after the Gigantour, I think). I can't really think of a band that would fit just right with being an opening act for Tool, so I think I'd just be happy with no opening act and a 3 hour Tool concert. :thumb: Of course, DT would be awesome.

[thunderzstruck]

Dream Theater and Rush! :amaze:

I can dream, right?

[Darkness]

Opeth would fit best with Tool, me thinks.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Dream Theater and Rush! :amaze:

I can dream, right?

That'd be cool, but...who would open the show? Tool or Rush? I wouldn't mind hearing the sweet synth lead of "Subdivisions" and than later the sweet guitar riffs of "Parabola" in the same night.

EDIT: sorry, thought it said Rush and Tool. My bad.

[Darkness]

I think Dream Theater would open for Rush or Tool. Rush and Tool have more mainstream sucess I think, and I don't think 2 mainstream (to an extent) bands would open for a more underground band.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I think Dream Theater would open for Rush or Tool. Rush and Tool have more mainstream sucess I think, and I don't think 2 mainstream (to an extent) bands would open for a more underground band.

I was referring to just a Tool/Rush concert because I read the post wrong. I though it said Rush and Tool. I'm giving myself really interesting ideas. If those 3 had one 6 or 7 hour long concert, that might just be the greatest thing ever.

[Darkness]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood.

Thats a kickass song BTW...

Tool would probably open for Rush?... well thats a hard one.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Oh sorry, I misunderstood.

Thats a kickass song BTW...

Tool would probably open for Rush?... well thats a hard one.

Nah, it was my bad. I'm terrible at reading, plus it's like 1 AM in New York.

[Darkness]

Well any combination of 2 of those 3 bands would be incredible, lets just leave it at that.

[thunderzstruck]

MHM!

In terms of popularity it SEEMS here

Rush > DT > Tool

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Well any combination of 2 of those 3 bands would be incredible, lets just leave it at that.

Yeah, I agree.


MHM!

In terms of popularity it SEEMS here

Rush > DT > Tool

Here as in MX? On these forums, it's Tool > DT > Rush. In general, it seems to be Rush > Tool > DT. Although I feel that all 3 of those bands never get enough radio attention. DT gets none as far as I can hear.

[Darkness]

MHM!

In terms of popularity it SEEMS here

Rush > DT > Tool
I wouldn't say that, Schism and Sober are more popular then the BAND Dream Theater. :lol:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I wouldn't say that, Schism and Sober are more popular then the BAND Dream Theater. :lol:

Yeah, the radio and Dream Theater just don't seem to be much of friends. I would probably piss myself if I was listening to KROQ and in between a Metallica song and a Disturbed song, they played "The Dance of Eternity." You don't hear many Ragtime piano leads on the radio these days.

[thunderzstruck]

Yeah ok this is what it is in the world right now

Rush > Tool > DT

[Darkness]

Yeah, the radio and Dream Theater just don't seem to be much of friends. I would probably piss myself if I was listening to KROQ and in between a Metallica song and a Disturbed song, they played "The Dance of Eternity." You don't hear many Ragtime piano leads on the radio these days.
Or 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulance. :lol:

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Or 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulance. :lol:

All 40 something minutes? :lol: They might have to cut it down just a bit. haha.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah ok this is what it is in the world right now

Rush > Tool > DT
Rush > Opeth > DT > Tool

Images and Words and Awake still make DT better than Tool, no matter what crap they've done since.

[Darkness]

Lateralus alone owns anything Dream Theaters done. :p

And Satch, could you imagine a 5 min radio edit of the song? :lol:

[MAthiAS]

Lateralus is easily the most overrated album on these boards.

[Darkness]

Hardly. :p Images and Words is.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Lateralus alone owns anything Dream Theaters done. :p

And Satch, could you imagine a 5 min radio edit of the song? :lol:

That would be so weird sounding. I mean, come on. The radio edits of their songs cut out a lot at times. Take the Time sounds really odd to me when it's shortened for the video. So, I can't imagine what the **** 6DOIT would sound like. BTW, did you ever notice how cheesy Dream Theater videos are? :lol:

[Darkness]

:lol: The transitions on a radio edit of that song would be so terrible... I actually kind of want to hear it now. :lol:

[MAthiAS]

Hardly. :p Images and Words is.
Yeh... not even close.

You can't even begin to deny that Tool has the most idiotic fanboys on these boards though.

[Darkness]

What?! Yes I can, the people in the Tool thread are some of the most intelligent on this board. But I will say that Tool fanboys outside of this board, are the stupiest, most narrowminded on the planet.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Rush > Opeth > DT > Tool

Images and Words and Awake still make DT better than Tool, no matter what crap they've done since.

Lateralus is easily the most overrated album on these boards.

Hardly. :p Images and Words is.



In general, it would be Rush > Tool > DT/Opeth. We were ranking popularity, not quality of band.

I don't think you can really compare Dream Theater and Tool. I mean, I love Images and Words and I love Lateralus, but they are so completely different from each other that I wouldn't know how to critique them in the same way. They both achieve their goals, if you know what I mean. Their approaches to music are so different from each other. I don't know, I just love both bands. Oh, and come to the Tool thread if you want to meet some cool people. We aren't pretentious fanboys, we just like to chat about Tool (and other bands for that matter). Give it a chance sometime. :) Some Tool fans do suck the big one though. Just like some punk fans suck the big one. And so on, and so on...

[Darkness]

We weren't really comparing the albums to eachother, we were saying which was more overrated on these boards. I was mainly kidding around, I donno if he was.

[MAthiAS]

I was mainly kidding around, I donno if he was.
Aye.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

We weren't really comparing the albums to eachother, we were saying which was more overrated on these boards. I was mainly kidding around, I donno if he was.

Yeah, I know. I don't think he was though. Atleast, it seemed to me that he really hated Tool. :lol: I don't think either album is overrated. Okay, maybe some Tool fanboys go a little far when they equate it to the second coming of Christ, but it's still an awfully good cd, imo. Oh, and I would love to hear the 5 minute 6DOIT. There'd be about 45 seconds of each song. It would sound really...interesting, to say the least.

[horseypie]

there are the tool fans that read into the songs, are awesomely intelligent and make up their own minds on what the songs are about, thinking about this for themselves
then there are the tool fanboys that think maynard ****s pure gold and that adam jones is guitar god...
personally, i rest comfortably in the middle somewhere (i tend to believe maynards **** would be bronze), but mainly on the boards here for tool there are extremely smart people
mostly a few smarter than here on the dt thread

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

there are the tool fans that read into the songs, are awesomely intelligent and make up their own minds on what the songs are about, thinking about this for themselves
then there are the tool fanboys that think maynard ****s pure gold and that adam jones is guitar god...
personally, i rest comfortably in the middle somewhere (i tend to believe maynards **** would be bronze), but mainly on the boards here for tool there are extremely smart people
mostly a few smarter than here on the dt thread

You shouldn't talk **** about the dt thread. :p

[BlindWriting]

I got Train of Thought a couple weeks ago, I really really like everything on it except for Stream of Consciousness. The first four ultra-heavy songs are perfect, Vacant is great as well, but to me, SoC is an aggravating ten minutes I could do without. In The Name Of God is good for the most part.

I still think The Glass Prison is the best song they've ever written, I'd kill to hear that live. I think mostly, I'm a fan of their heavier stuff (especially stuff like Panic Attack, Home, The Mirror and others from Awake).

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

I got Train of Thought a couple weeks ago, I really really like everything on it except for Stream of Consciousness. The first four ultra-heavy songs are perfect, Vacant is great as well, but to me, SoC is an aggravating ten minutes I could do without. In The Name Of God is good for the most part.

I still think The Glass Prison is the best song they've ever written, I'd kill to hear that live. I think mostly, I'm a fan of their heavier stuff (especially stuff like Panic Attack, Home, The Mirror and others from Awake).

SoC isn't good enough to be as long as it is. If it was more like 5 minutes, than it might be a bit better. I still like it though. I don't think I have a preference of a certain type of DT song, just as long as it's good. Does anyone else think The Glass Prison is overrated? I'm probably going to get killed for that :lol: . I think it's good, but not exactly an amazing song.

[Ad Absurdum]

'Stream of Consciousness' > Every other Dream Theater instrumental
'The Glass Prison' < Every other AA song
'In the Name of God' > Every other song on Train Of Thought

[BlindWriting]

'Stream of Consciousness' > Every other Dream Theater instrumental
'The Glass Prison' < Every other AA song
'In the Name of God' > Every other song on Train Of Thought
Wow, I disagree on everyone one of those.