The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[nator]

if you wanted to use your imagination you wouldn't be playing a video game

[Liberi Fatali]

You guys suck for hating on VIII.

[Happy]

I love it. Junctioning can be a pain but you don't have to do it. The thing I love about that game is that you can pretty much set your own difficulty level using the junctioning and levelling system, once you've figured it out that is.
I don't think the characters are that irritating, sure they can be annoying in parts but they're nothing near as bad as the X characters (minus Auron who = win)

[Jim]

i loved the start of viii but lost interest pretty quickly for some reason

the characters for the most part are fine it's just squall always seems to have sand in his vag

[Happy]

He did indeed. By the end of it all it did grow pretty tiresome and had me thinking "what a mopey old cunt, cheer up" but his gunblade is awesome enough for me to let that go.

[Jim]

the gunblade is cool actually

[Mister_Che]

FFIV Screenshots

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17211762&postcount=79
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17212101&postcount=86
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17212118&postcount=87

[nator]

He did indeed. By the end of it all it did grow pretty tiresome and had me thinking "what a mopey old cunt, cheer up" but his gunblade is awesome enough for me to let that go.

he stops being a little bitch on like disc 3


cool screenshots

[nator]

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5826/16741417.jpg

om glolo

[Chrysostom]

That fight can be a real bitch.

[nator]

naw its pretty easy

once you use blind on him he doesnt do much damage besides gravija. when you use demi on him he casts curaga on the character haha


i spent most of the battle drawing demis from him and then i got bored and kicked his ***

[Happy]

Yeah I found it pretty easy.

[Chrysostom]

Geez, tried to take on that optional spider boss down in the Great Crystal (FFXII) last night and got a true kicking from it. Pretty much turned me off trying again, and I'm certainly not going to arse around trying to kill the thing in the Colosseum. I'll just go ahead and finish the game. 280 hours is long enough to be titting about on one game anyway.

[RetiredAt21]

280 hours? Wow.

[Chrysostom]

280 hours? Wow.

Yeah, it's exactly a year this month that I bought it. Honestly I don't know how I've racked up 280 hours, especially because I had large gaps where I wasn't even playing XII, and when I was playing it it was usually no more than 2 hours a night. So I'm confused.

[fatbandit]

A game where you can spend 280 hours on it and still not be able to finish off a boss? That doesn't seem right.

[MAthiAS]

Wow, I lost interest in XII well short of 280 hours... like 12 hours in or so.

[Chrysostom]

A game where you can spend 280 hours on it and still not be able to finish off a boss? That doesn't seem right.

Tell me about it. All characters Level 99, all equipped with Bubble Belts and a selection of the best weapons and armour, the boss only has 1 million HP and I cast protectga, shellga, hastega and bravery on my team before I went anywhere near the thing. But it started shooting lasers at me and kept killing people off. I went down 24 Phoenix Downs in less than 10 minutes. So now I can't be bothered with the damn thing.

[FakePlasticTrees]

How much HP did your guys have?

[MAthiAS]

Are those like, the best stats you could possibly have?

[Chrysostom]

My best three, who I took into the battle, all had well into the 6000s, except Ashe who was in the 5800s. But like I said they were wearing Bubble Belts so they had double that HP.

[MrConeman]

280 hours of XII? Jesus Christ. Sounds like a punishment.

[Chrysostom]

Honestly, I've enjoyed it. Not as much as, say, VII but I'm glad I stuck with it. But if, as seems to be the case, I can't beat the two remaining optional bosses, then at 280 hours it's really time to finish this, so I can move on to my first playthroughs of IV, V, and VI.

[Happy]

Have you beat the dragon bosses? Yiasmat or something?
I've beaten one of them, took 6 hours of straight playing.

[fatbandit]

I didn't do most of the optional end game stuff with XII. Or pretty much most of the 'obsessive gamer' stuff in X either. It stops being an immersive story driven game when you have to spend hundreds of hours grinding just to beat an optional boss to me. And I hope that isn't where the franchise is headed.

[Anglachel]

so who got Dissidia?

[MrConeman]

I mean, I only got about 30 or so hours into XII. But I was still waiting for the immersive expansive story to happen. I seen an expansive world for sure, and a kind of fun fighting system, that wasn't my gripe at all. It just seemed like a huge, huge grinding game, and the entire point of it, was to walk from A to B.

When I got a little over 30 hours into the game, I just started thinking "You know, if this was 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10, I wouldn't be able to put it down, and I'd get the FF syndrome where I'm thinking about it alot when I'm not playing, but with this game, I'm forcing myself to play.". That's when I turned it off, took it out of my playstation, and never put it back in.

[Chrysostom]

Have you beat the dragon bosses? Yiasmat or something?
I've beaten one of them, took 6 hours of straight playing.

I beat Hell Wyrm, which is the only optional boss I managed to defeat. Yeah, Yiazmat is the ultimate optional boss, with 50+ million HP. I was going to try to beat him after I killed Omega Mark XII (the spider boss I mentioned earlier), but if I can't beat something with 1 million HP, I haven't got a hope in Hell of beating Yiazmat, so like I said, it's time to finish XII and move on to all the earlier FFs I still haven't played.

Come to think of it, I need to finish my 228 hour game on Dragon Quest before I start any of the older FFs.

[nator]

ive been in the same place in V for awhile now, too lazy to do any more. gotta do the thing with adamantine and the meteors n shi so i can gtfo

[FakePlasticTrees]

50+ million HP for a boss is just extreme overkill. I'm all for an epic and challenging boss battle, but not when its going to take a large amount of time on my part.

[Anglachel]

boss battles should only last as long as it takes for the battle theme to repeat once or twice

[Tillius]

I'm currently going back through VIII at the moment. Fixing to wrap up disc 3. **** you guys for hating on it it's an amazing game.

[nator]

its my favorite

[-Listy-]

I'm currently going back through VIII at the moment. Fixing to wrap up disc 3. **** you guys for hating on it it's an amazing game.

agreed. im going to start another game soon.

[Happy]

When did we decide we hated VIII?

[RetiredAt21]

I don't like VIII at all. I think I might be the only one.

[nator]

im sure anglachel doesn't

[fingers mccoy]

viii is ok

[MrConeman]

I'm starting 8 again as soon as I beat 7 again. In 7 I'm at Mideel controlling Tifa's boobs...controlling Tifa... at the moment.

[nator]

i was at that point in 7 but got bored and deleted the game

[AA-12]

has anyone played dissidia yet? it's basically power stone + ssb with final fantasy characters. i like it a lot so far.

[wartomods]

the only final fantasy game i played was advance tactics, it is pretty good

[FakePlasticTrees]

I'm gonna give FFVIII another try.

[MAthiAS]

So Decisive Battle is my new favorite of the piano collections. Song is so good.

[Happy]

It is a pretty sweet song. The opening totally makes it for me.

[Anglachel]

has anyone played dissidia yet? it's basically power stone + ssb with final fantasy characters. i like it a lot so far.
played it on a friends psp

i started quick battles and played Kefka, Terra, Bartz and Zidane

Kefka was so easy i just spammed aerial ranged **** and never lost
Zidane was much more enjoyable to play as i was all gettin in close knockin ppl in the air and fukn their **** up but it wasnt unbearable easy

Bartz was cool guy
Terra started the battle saying "I hope i could do this..." then every time i did some attack she yelled GET AWAY i was like ughhhhhh D:


but yeah its fun and all the song remixes rule


im sure anglachel doesn't
yeah

when i turned on the psp to play dissidia the guy had left it at some point on Squalls storyline and it was a cutscene and it was like

Bartz: well come get the crystals with us then
Zidane: yeah itll be easier this way

then Squall, in the most predictable ****ing fashion ever says in his expected pseudo-badass (aka whiny cunt) way "Sorry, I travel alone"

I ****ing facepalmed then quit the story

[MrConeman]

I was really looking forward to getting it, but now that I've joined a band, my minimal income has pretty much become 0 spare spending money, all my money goes on something now. :upset:. I'll get it when I'm on my feet a little better.

About to go to the underwater reactor in 7, I know the boss down there is a bit of a bitch sometimes, so I'm leveling just until I'm over 2000hp with my main party, we're all around 1500ish, but I know the boss has that laser attack that does like 1500 damage to everyone, so I need a few levels.

Tifa has managed to take over Cloud's level while she was the party leader, she's now 43, and he's 42, she's part of the main party, So I'm not sure Cloud will catch her up again, unless she dies, or I do some random other party levelings.

I'm just grinding up a little outside mideel, till I get 2000hp, and meteorain.

edit: also checked something else out a little earlier, one of the glitches in the game lets you land the highwind outside the materia cave that gives you quadra magic, I'd never tried it before, so I gave that a whirl, it works.

[fatbandit]

It works, but I've never really found a use for Quadra Magic to be honest. Spamming magic with it just isn't as effective as attacking!

And Carry Armor should be easy. Just set people into the back row, bring your long range fighters/long range materia, and load up on Big Guard, then destroy the arms first. Easy peas :)

[-Listy-]

I used to find that boss and the one in the Temple of the Ancients near impossible when i first played the game. Then I discovered Mighty guard and it just made everyting easy

[MrConeman]

Oh, yeah, I know I'll take him no problem, he's just known as one of the more cheap and problematic bosses in the game, along with Demons Gate and Materia Keeper, everyone seems to get stuck on those three. I could even go the cheap route and just hit him with magic hammer a couple times, but wheres the fun :p.

I just wanted my hp up a little, because losing party members mid fight and having to restore them is just about the most annoying possible thing.

I like quadra magic a little early on, like this stage in the game, like once you run your summons all over a boss, and they're still going, having quadra magic with like comet, or ultima takes off just as much if not more than whatever summon you have at the time. Once you level a few of your other materia up though, I agree, it's sort of a waste of a materia slot.

edit: haha yeah Listy. See, everyone mentions Demons Gate and this one.

[doki]

I never have problem with demon gate but carry armor is a ****

[nator]

none of the bosses in 7 are hard

[MrConeman]

None of the bosses in any Final Fantasy game are hard with the right level and preparation, every single person in this thread already knows that, well done for you though. :thumb:

Did alot of work in 7 today. Done the underwater reactor part, went and done the pagoda sidequest with Yuffie, making sure to learn Trine from Godo on all of my Enemy Skill materias 'cos he's the last remaining enemy in the game to use it, got all that stuff on the Gelinka, went to space, got the huge materia, beat diamond weapon.

[fatbandit]

Nobody mentions Schizo though. I always thought Schizo was supposed to be one of the harder ones? I never really had problems with any of the bosses. But I always overlevelled for the Cave of the Gi for some reason. The enemies there pissed me off. And those spiders in the webs, I hated them the most.

[MrConeman]

Embarrasingly enough, Schizo actually is the only thing to have killed me during this current run of the game, I went in knowing there was a boss ahead but thought I'd have it in a breeze, because I was doing pretty well at that point, so I went in without really preparing my materia or armour or anything or even curing and he handed me my ***. So I reloaded, put on some ice and fire absorbing armour (Dragon armlet, and Ice with elemental in another armour) and kicked his *** all over the place.

The GI cave is a bit of a shock for the first time you play it I think, if you're underprepared it's the first real hard treck in the game, you have what you brought with you, and theres constant enemies, and those spiders are a big pain unless you've done a little grinding, so it's a major tear in that place. Balances out by killing the boss with a pheonix down though.

[fatbandit]

I used mini on those big spiders, and then they become pretty puny.

[MrConeman]

haha, never thought of that. Quite a good idea actually.

[RetiredAt21]

It works, but I've never really found a use for Quadra Magic to be honest. Spamming magic with it just isn't as effective as attacking!

And Carry Armor should be easy. Just set people into the back row, bring your long range fighters/long range materia, and load up on Big Guard, then destroy the arms first. Easy peas :)

Truth.

[Happy]

The spiders in the Gi cave were pretty easy :-/

[MrConeman]

I'm talking my first play through, in which I was a child. To say nothing in this game gives me any sort of trouble now days is an understatement. I eat Emerald and Ruby Weapons for breakfast. I've done a perfect game remember. :)

[nator]

damn bro a perfect game wow

[MrConeman]

Well, I say perfect, the more I think about it, the more I'm reasonably sure I didn't master all the purple materias, and I think I did, but I'm not sure if I mastered all the yellow materias either.

Other than that though, yeah, everything that can be done, I did it.

[nator]

u didnt even master the purple ones?? hah a LOSERrr FAggoOT

[Anglachel]

why do all the voice actors for dissidia have to be american

if anybody firion should sound SOMEWHAT different :(

[Happy]

That is seriously lame. Laziness by Squeenix there. One of the things I really hated about X.

[Mister_Che]

I just crushed Carry Armor in FFVII. I think he got two attacks off before he died.

[MrConeman]

A friend who's playing VII for the first time had me come to his house and beat Carry Armour today. Seeing his materia setup was hilarious, he had like luck plus paired with all and other such madness.

[RetiredAt21]

A friend who's playing VII for the first time had me come to his house and beat Carry Armour today. Seeing his materia setup was hilarious, he had like luck plus paired with all and other such madness.

lololololol

[Happy]

A friend who's playing VII for the first time had me come to his house and beat Carry Armour today. Seeing his materia setup was hilarious, he had like luck plus paired with all and other such madness.

What a dumbass

[FakePlasticTrees]

which boss is carry armour?

[fatbandit]

The one you fight in the Underwater Reactor right before the submarine chase minigame. Robot with two big arms.

[MrConeman]

What a dumbass
Seriously. I tried to explain the materia system as best I could to him, because it was blatently obvious he didn't pay attention when the game explained it, but I don't think I really got it into his head.

...he's a little slow.

[Anglachel]

they fixed firion so that he didnt look like II remake cutscenes but he sounds so wrongggg

anybody with voice acting previously sounds like they have the same voice actors as before but they didnt bug me that much previously

but together? :E

@Happy

haha, Cloud just admitted to being scared of monsters

[Happy]

Seriously. I tried to explain the materia system as best I could to him, because it was blatently obvious he didn't pay attention when the game explained it, but I don't think I really got it into his head.

...he's a little slow.


tbh I never read the game's tutorials on materia etc because they are boring as hell to read and I'd rather do things through experience but still I wasn't that stupid.
@Happy

haha, Cloud just admitted to being scared of monsters

:eek:

kk
its obvious that the Cloud you are playing as is an imposter and the real Cloud is about to kick his arse.

[MAthiAS]

I've really got the urge to play some old SNES games, ones that I've never played before. So assuming I find the time to do so, should I play FF IV, Secret of Mana, or Secret of Evermore, or something else? (Maybe Chrono Trigger but I don't really want to)

Also anyone played the early Metal Gear games, the ones for SNES? Are they worth it?

[-Listy-]

why dont you want to play Chrono Trigger?

[Brew]

I've been wanting to play Chrono Trigger alot recently but haven't quite found the time for it just yet.

[fingers mccoy]

so this er, this dissidia...

it's a bit much innit

[Happy]

I kind of want it but all I've heard is that it sucks.

[Brew]

i'm still trying to decide if its worth getting a PSP for Dissida, Crisis Core etc etc..

[Anglachel]

yeah dissidia was ok
tons of items and the fighting is good music remixes rule but the stories are just really bad fanservice

and chaos is a bitch to beat

[MrConeman]

i'm still trying to decide if its worth getting a PSP for Dissida, Crisis Core etc etc..

Dissidia I can't say, because I haven't played it. But, dude, seriously. Do yourself a favour, and make sure you play Crisis Core at some point, I can't rant and rave it's praises enough, like it is without doubt the best spin off from 7, and could have held up as a game by itself without resting on 7's coat-tails.

I bought my PSP just for Crisis Core, but I got an insane deal off a friend for his PSP because he just didn't use it anymore, so I got lucky there.

[Happy]

i'm still trying to decide if its worth getting a PSP for Dissida, Crisis Core etc etc..

There's a fair few ff themed games on it, I think you can get FFVII on it too but that requires having a PS3.

[Anglachel]

and tactics

[Mister_Che]

FFVIII is on the Japanese PSN store. I guess that means a US release in the coming months.

[AA-12]

FFVIII is on the Japanese PSN store. I guess that means a US release in the coming months.

people are saying it's in today's update

[Chrysostom]

Yeesh, it's taken 3 years and 260 hours of play time, but tonight I finally finished Dragon Quest VIII, with a completion rate of just under 100%. Honestly, it was a slightly melancholy experience to know that I won't be playing this charming, exquisitely crafted game for what could be a year or quite possibly even longer. Nevertheless it's done, so now I need to finish my 280 hour FFXII game, though the completion rate for that won't be quite so close to 100% as DQ was.

[Anglachel]

I wish every game told you exactly how much you've completed

[Happy]

It would be helpful with FF.

[iranscam]

i want to play VIII right now but i am an asswipe and the 1st disc is scratched. this is the 3rd copy of viii that i have scratched a disc on. :thumb:

[Happy]

Get a PS3 if its on the psn like the guys above say it is.

[Chrysostom]

I wish every game told you exactly how much you've completed

I would love that. Like a complete breakdown:

sidequests completed/total sidequests

weapons, armour, items collected/total items

no. characters with max stats and at level 99/total no. of characters

and then at the end of the list an actual percentage rate for completion so you know exactly where you stand. That would be great.

[Anglachel]

some games do have percentages like that, but not to like superjrpgnerd completion standards

which can be ****ing stupid anyways


like STEAL 99 OF THIS ITEM OR ELSE ITS NOT COMPLETED
**** off im not wasting my time doing that why bother

[Happy]

To me that's not completion, that's just pointless.

[Chrysostom]

some games do have percentages like that, but not to like superjrpgnerd completion standards

which can be ****ing stupid anyways


like STEAL 99 OF THIS ITEM OR ELSE ITS NOT COMPLETED
**** off im not wasting my time doing that why bother

Well quite. It's important not to over do the whole completion rate thing.

[fatbandit]

Vagrant Story does it right.

Map Completion %
Treasure Chest %

[fingers mccoy]

you guys need to play tales of vesperia if you haven't

huge ****ing rpg that is

[Happy]

What system is it on/what's the story?

To lazy to google.

[Brew]

xbox 360 (and ps3?)

not sure of the story though.

[fingers mccoy]

it's got a similar theme along the lines of the nethicite stuff in xii - a resource known as the blastia is used for various purposes, most notably weaponry and defense

but using it is actually a dick move for various reasons

a corrupt empire controls most of it and there's friction between the empire and an alliance of guilds

there's a lot of story, and most of it happens in the late-game

i haven't quite finished it yet tho, it's a good easy 50 hours of gameplay i would imagine

combat system is fun and this is one of the best games i've seen for a satisfactory learning curve because i'm definitely into the last hours of the game and i'm still unlocking new game-changing mechanics

beautifully drawn and animated cel-shaded visuals

great voice acting and a surprising amount of depth and wit to the dialogue that is belied by early-game twee stereotyping - there's a princess character who is naive but resolute, and a young male protagonist who's learned to suppress his passions and become cynical due to his dark past but can't resist an impulse to defend the weak much like an npc he has a long-earned respect for which results in many scenes of bromance and dramatic sheathings of swords - but ultimately develops into nuance, self-referential humour and surprising but ultimately understandable decisions

it also has a cooking sidequest and they're always amazing

[AA-12]

ToV is very, very good

[Anglachel]

cooking sidequest has me sold

[Carl Sagan]

resumed my game of FFV the music is so good

[Anglachel]

Four Hearts is one of the best world map songs ever

[Carl Sagan]

that and the map song in IX are my favorites

the one in VII is the worst

[Anglachel]

I liked IVs more then IXs but I love almost everything from IV so idk

yeah IV V and IX are the best FF world map themes to me

[Mr. Pickle]

I need some help with FFVII

hey, sup? So I've been trying to play FFVII recently, (on my Vista PC with wireless keyboard, if it matters), but every time I play I keep running into this problem:

(it's shitty quality, but you get the idea)
http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a390/ybrmuggslp21/?action=view&current=FF7.flv

It just keeps popping up and doing that. Over, and over.


Any ideas?

kthx

[Anglachel]

a pc version?


emulate it instead

[Mr. Pickle]

I dunno, I'd like to get it to work, since it worked on my old computer.

And yes, it's a legitimate pc version.

[Carl Sagan]

stupid battle of narshe i hate u

[The Transporter]

FFXIII confirmed PS3 and XBOX360 release date in the US

March 9, 2010

http://kotaku.com/5403678/final-fantasy-xiii-hits-north-america-march-9

[RetiredAt21]

Don't really care tbph.

[MrConeman]

Yeah, right there with ya.

[MrConeman]

"Leona Lewis single as the game's opening theme."

Jesus ****ing Christ. Yeah, because that's a better idea than Prelude. **** off.

edit: after watching the video, the games visuals do look astounding, and I have no doubt the creators of Final Fantasy can put a good story out again if they try (which they obviously didnt with 12), but the actual gaming .i.e the fighting, looks pretty dumb.

[Happy]

I probably won't get it unless some other people who play it tell me its good. Its just gone too far man.

[Carl Sagan]

i'd say they should just update some older games for the ps3 but theyd probably find some way to **** them up so i dunno

[Happy]

I agree with you. Somehow they'd all end up looking like FFX, which every FF does nowadays.

[Anglachel]

i think ive said that all old characters that get 3d'd end up looking like fags

[Happy]

They looked pretty cool in Kingdom Hearts.

[Anglachel]

i mean old characters that previously only had sprites and art for us to go by

[Happy]

Oh yeah of course. See what you mean now.

[Anglachel]

http://ui19.gamespot.com/1714/cecil_2.jpg

hai guize how u liek my noo bloo lipstix

[Happy]

so macho.

[Anglachel]

http://dissidia.rhapsodos.org/images/art/exmode/bartz.png

hai guize imma mimic ill copy what u do olol so much fun

[Brew]

Is March 9th the UK release date as well?

That's the day before my birthday so should be an easy enough present for my gf to get me.

[Chrysostom]

Is March 9th the UK release date as well?

That's the day before my birthday so should be an easy enough present for my gf to get me.

Indeed it is. Leona Lewis though? WTF?

Really underwhelmed with what I've seen from this game so far. I was expecting FFXIII to be the game that convinced me to bypass all the games I still want to buy for PS2 as well as ignore the crappy lack of backwards compatibility and finally get into the current gen machines, but turns out I'm still 'meh' about the thing.

I'd love to know the reason they can't seem to make an FF of comparable quality to, say, FFVII these days. There must be one, surely.

[Happy]

Nobuo's not there anymore. He was the mastermind.

[Carl Sagan]

yeah he even did the art direction and programmed the games

[spitfirejunky]

More FFXII hate. It was an excellent game with a refreshing plot.

FFXIII looks too damn cheesy though.

[Happy]

Plot? They wrote one for half the game.

[MrConeman]

Refreshing plot?

If by refreshing you mean that the other games had one, and XII did not.

[Pop music sucks]

i think ive said that all old characters that get 3d'd end up looking like fagsYou know the Japanese adore their androgyny.

[spitfirejunky]

Refreshing plot?

If by refreshing you mean that the other games had one, and XII did not.

Plot? They wrote one for half the game.

I have absolutely no idea what either of these posts mean. Were you guys staring into a black screen while you were playing? That could be part of the problem.

[IgniteYourAvail]

FFXIII confirmed PS3 and XBOX360 release date in the US

March 9, 2010

http://kotaku.com/5403678/final-fantasy-xiii-hits-north-america-march-9

So stoked.

[Carl Sagan]

why is there so much **** on the battle screen

[fingers mccoy]

xii had an interesting plot compared to the others how no ff fanboys seem to see this i don't understand

it just stuck to the politics more than anything else really

[AA-12]

XIII looks sooooo good. around february the wait is going to get awful :(

[fingers mccoy]

oh yeh but wtf is up with camera issues in an ff battle system

[AA-12]

what issues?

[fingers mccoy]

in both battle clips i saw in that video the enemy was partially offscreen and you couldn't really see which part your characters were attacking and what animation the enemy was executing

might not be gamebreaking but didn't look particularly polished to me, camera issues could really break the flow like in dissidia

[AA-12]

you can control the camera easily it looks like

[Happy]

I have absolutely no idea what either of these posts mean. Were you guys staring into a black screen while you were playing? That could be part of the problem.

No, there came a point in the game where there was still so much left to do and the game was like, "okay, just walk through the next 5 locations/cities etc and fight the last boss!"

[Liberi Fatali]

Leona Lewis - My Hands is the theme song for Final Fantasy XIII...... UGHHHHHH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8qtteb9FBY

[Brew]

can't be as bad as Eyes On Me.

[Happy]

Eyes on Me pisses all over this.

[MrConeman]

Eyes on Me is a great song in terms of the music, and it's amazing in the context of the game, and the meaning it carries with Julia/Laguna, and completely seals the atmosphere for FFVIII and helped make it the masterpiece it was.

Leona Lewis is a reality TV whore.

[Chrysostom]

Nothing wrong with Eyes on Me. Plenty wrong with Ms. Lewis.

[Happy]

This is the real reason she was punched in the face.

[Chrysostom]

LMAO. Headline: Disgruntled nerd attacks pop star.

[Liberi Fatali]

Right, beginning another attempt at completing Final Fantasy XII now. This is probably about my 7th attempt to complete it all, with most of those having me end up bored and quitting before I had even made one save.

[Chrysostom]

Stick with it man, it's a pretty good game.

[Pop music sucks]

I can't stand the battle system

[Carl Sagan]

i like the map and how you encounter monsters and stuff, but the MMO type battle system is lame

would be cool if you could choose the type of battle system you want to use, like ATB or CBT, in the config/options

[Pop music sucks]

That wonky battle system is why I didn't even bother getting out of the starting city

[Brew]

the battle system was why I stopped playing XII.

I'll give it another shot sometime soon.

[RetiredAt21]

Still haven't played FFXII but I'm sure I wouldn't like it.

[fingers mccoy]

what was it that people disliked? I thought it was clever - typically frustrating in the early stages of the game (as with any ff), and at the point where you need to be casting powerful magic like every second later in the game the animations would start to queue up which made strategies hard to pull off

i thought the mid-game was very satisfying tho

everyone needs to play tales of vesperia if they want a battle system that's consistently satisfying

[Happy]

Its okay I like it, I just don't agree that it had a good storyline.

[fatbandit]

I admire it for trying a different storyline to everything that has come before FF-wise, but I don't feel the whole political thing was pulled off that well. To a certain extent, FF fans want the familiarity that has been provided by so many games with essentially the same plot I think.

I played XII and finished it, but I didn't like any of the playable characters apart from Basch, Ashe and Reddas. And by the end, I wasn't sure why I was actually going through the motions. The story is outlined, but I don't think enough is done to immerse you into the feeling of friction between the different factions or really give enough background into it. It all seems a little hastily explained and hard to keep track of. Maybe familiarity with the story after playing it more than once would help? Vagrant Story had a plot I didn't really grasp at first (partly due to all the different factions and double crossing etc... bit like FFXII!), but on the second and third playthrough I loved it.

The game system worked. But that's it. I've used better game systems, but I always see the actual mechanics as a means to an end, rather than the pivotal part of the game for me. If the characterisation, realisation of concepts and plot aren't up to much, then it doesn't matter how good the game system is in an RPG for me.

[Happy]

I think the battle system was more fun if you didn't use gambits.

[fatbandit]

HI didn't like having to micro-manage without the gambits on. It wasn't made to be played that way, and it is a lot harder to play it like that without the typical FF style battle screen IMO.

What it does recreate actually is the Kingdom Hearts style of play. Which I loved!

[Happy]

I think it just took the fun out of it if you didn't even need to fight in the battles. Oh well, that's just me lol

[MrConeman]

And me.

I generally disliked everything about XII, the graphics were obviously well done, but the actual look/feel/atmosphere/whatever was far too Star Wars for me. So I pretty much dislike every last little thing about XII. I can't remember how far I got, but I was around 40/50 hours in, and a friend who did manage to beat it said I was a couple hours off the end of the game. (Having done absolutely *nothing* beyond what is absolutely required up to that point). I stopped playing anyway because it was so boring.

[Happy]

I thought hunting the super monsters or whatever they were called was fun. I think the whole series is going too sci-fi.

[fatbandit]

Well, VII and VIII were pretty sci-fi/cyberpunk, especially VIII. But then WHAM there's IX going all old-school. They can sort it out :)

Not excited about XIII though. Not that I have a current generation console anyway.

[Carl Sagan]

VIII wasnt didnt have much sci fi and futuristic stuff until disc 3 and on

[fatbandit]

so it didn't have much... until it did?

;)

[Carl Sagan]

uhh yeah

whats so hard to understand about that

[fatbandit]

i dunno, i thought you were trying to say VIII wasn't really sci-fi influenced. if you weren't... then i don't really see what point you were making. stating the obvious aside.

[Happy]

I think every FF has some sci-fi influences, just the newer ones are going a bit overboard with it.

[Brew]

bring back whales that take you to the moon

[Mr. Ron]

I didn't bother to play XII. The FF series has been dead for a while.


Started FF9 agian. Oh Vivi <3333

[Happy]

bring back whales that take you to the moon

Exactly, that's sci-fi without getting too rediculous.

[fingers mccoy]

lol i really hadn't thought of the more recent ones as being particularly sci fi

xii was a bit star wars tho

[Happy]

By the recent ones I mean X and XII. Never played XI so I can't judge it.

[fatbandit]

X isn't really that sci-fi to me. i mean, zanarkand is futuristic and all, but the majority of the game is more kind of like steam-punk stuff. XII is a fantasy game. i don't see it as sci-fi at all.

[fingers mccoy]

yeah **** xi

[Happy]

I always wanted XI but it was too expensive for me not to mention PS2s were hard as hell to connect to the internet. I bet hardly anyone plays it nowadays.

[RetiredAt21]

I didn't bother to play XII. The FF series has been dead for a while.


Started FF9 agian. Oh Vivi <3333

I <3 Vivi, too.

The town with all the black mages was ****ing cool.

[fingers mccoy]

ix rapes all

[Happy]

I would like to marry IX.