The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[spitfirejunky]

Not really FF related, but I've been playing Vagrant Story on my emulator and this game is awesome. I'm in the town after the wine cellar/catacombs/etc and I just beat the group of soldiers that ambush you when you're spying on the cardinal's men.

Since this obviously isn't a very long game I'm wondering if you clear it and start again do you get to keep your stats/gear or do you just start from scratch? If you get to keep everything I'll probably play through this a few times.

Yes, you keep everything plus you have the Rood Inverse so you can access secret areas with longass boss battles. A second playthrough is the only way to get a 100% map.

EDIT:

Second playthrough isn't really the right term. Basically you beat the final boss and then play through the old areas again.

[Will J]

That sounds pretty fun, then. So basically you can just keep beating it over and over and starting over every time with better stats? I think I love this game.

[Liberi Fatali]

it's ff related definitely
In my mind any japanese rpgs are cool to talk about in here.

[Brew]

especially as there's only so much we can say about the Final Fantasy games before we start repeating ourselves.

[huxtaposition]

i beat breath of fire 1 the other night, now i'm working on the second one. any one play the BoF games?

[RetiredAt21]

Breath Of Fire II is my favorite in the series. III was alright it just took so long to really get interesting.

[Meatplow]

bof II is my favourite game ever, mainly from nostalgia purposes :) i love u RetiredAt21

the third is fun as well

[Happy]

Only RPG I ever played was FF lol.

And Legend of Dragoon but that was crap.

[Anglachel]

I've started playing boF 1 so many times but never got far

most of the games i play are rpgs :-\

[MrConeman]

I only played Breath of Fire III and it was awesome. I tried so hard and got so far but in the end it didn't even matter because my disk broke. :(

I remember the last place I got to was the Desert of Death or something, and I couldn't figure it out.

[Anglachel]

I'm playing TWEWY atm and want to get the star oceans on the psp

[Brew]

I've got a few BoF roms in a folder somewhere, I'll play them eventually.

I'm about halfway through Disc 1 of Blue Dragon. Its an alright game, though the main character (Shu) is annoying.

[Jamais_Vu]

I just finished the first disc on FF7. I'm already at level 53 with Cloud and everyone else is either 47 or 48.

[Happy]

You could finish the game with on those levels.

[Jamais_Vu]

I know lol. I did a **** load of training right before I got to the Forgotten City.

[Happy]

Awesome.

Squenix bought Eidos the other day.

Lara Croft in the next FF

[doki]

I just finished the first disc on FF7. I'm already at level 53 with Cloud and everyone else is either 47 or 48.

this happen to me last time i play ff7 too
I train alot around Wutai area

Just played Chrono Trigger for the first time, up to the point after defeating heckran. game is amazing.

[fingers mccoy]

beautyyyyyy, got the excalibur 2, now gonna start catchin frogs, getting all the remaining items and field icons, and levelling up all my LEVEL 1 CHARACTERS MOTHER****ER

[Brew]

congrats on getting the excalibur 2 :chug:

[Jim]

that's awesome man. good job :thumb:

i seem to be the only person who liked catching frogs :( it makes quina's frog drop an awesome attack. plus it was kind of a nice departure once in a while :)

[fatbandit]

Well I'm just about to go to Cleyra in my file. Really enjoying this game, I forgot how much more humorous it is than a lot of other FF games.

I love the dialogue choice Steiner has at South Gate which is just

KILL
Don't kill

^_^

[RetiredAt21]

I love Steiner and Vivi. Zidane was a pretty bland main character. Very unusual for a Final Fantasy game.

[Jim]

steiner <3 beatrix :)

when they fight off those hoards at alexandria together you know it's love

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah Beatrix was cool, too.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I love Steiner and Vivi. Zidane was a pretty bland main character. Very unusual for a Final Fantasy game.

That and FFXII, which had the WORST main character ever.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't played FFXII, yet. I'm not even really interested.

[MrConeman]

I haven't played FFXII, yet. I'm not even really interested.

Also FFX, which has the second worst main character ever.

[RetiredAt21]

Tidus didn't really bother me that much.

[MrConeman]

Not even the "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA IAMROBOT"?

[RetiredAt21]

I've said it a million times that that awkward laughter made me feel weird as ****.

[Mister_Che]

That and FFXII, which had the WORST main character ever.

Ashe was pretty meh But Basch is cool.

[fatbandit]

Basch should have been the lead. Vaan almost seems like an afterthought of a character to be honest.

[Anglachel]

Bartz and Cecil are so awesome

[RetiredAt21]

Bartz and Cecil are so awesome

Don't forget the majority of the characters from FFVI.

[Mister_Che]

Basch should have been the lead. Vaan almost seems like an afterthought of a character to be honest.

I posted something a while back which explains the characters in the game as I remember it from some blog post:

Ashe: Main character, everything being done is essentially just to help her.
Basch: Ashes bodyguard in a sense, could be considered second main character.
Balthier: Streetwise pirate who knows his Ivalice geography.
Fran: Silent wisewoman who rarely speaks, but when she does it's very useful.
Penelo: The cute one who is the most innocent of all.
Vaan: Everyones bitch who is forced to find hunts, save the game, and buy stuff.

[spitfirejunky]

FFVIII update: Got to Cerberus way too soon, he's only got Double lol. More leveling. =(

[Anglachel]

Don't forget the majority of the characters from FFVI.
well we're talking about main characters and theres way cooler characters than Terra in VI so

[Chrysostom]

Basch should have been the lead. Vaan almost seems like an afterthought of a character to be honest.

The reason for that is supposedly that he's simply meant to be some punk kid who gets caught up in a main story that centres on Ashe. The turning point is obviously his raid on the Royal Palace. That's when the game becomes about Ashe. The game is told from his perspective though he isn't the main character as such. It was a frankly lame idea if you ask me - I like to know who the main fella is right off the bat. It seems like XIII will be somewhat the same, as it's been reported that there will be no main character, and all will have an equal part to play.

Having totally lost the plot, I read the FF wiki page and decided that the plot isn't too bad - it's somewhat more nuanced than I previously thought. Though only slightly.

[Happy]

XII had a plot?

[RetiredAt21]

well we're talking about main characters and theres way cooler characters than Terra in VI so

I really liked Sabin and Locke. Shadow was also cool.

[Brew]

Bartz and Cecil are so awesome

Butz*

[Anglachel]

right

[RetiredAt21]

I'll stick with Bartz.

[Happy]

I also liked Zidane because he wasn't depressed all the time like Cloud and Squall but also wasn't so optimistic (or voiced by an American) that it was annoying like Tidus and Vaan.

[Anglachel]

Squall wasnt depressed
he was just an angsty little bitch

[Mister_Che]

To be fair, the voice acting in FFXII was a major leap over the voice acting in X.

[-Listy-]

i got FFX the other day cause it was only a tenner and I haven't played it in years or actually completed it.

'To Zanarkand' has to be one of Nobuo Uematsu's best pieces.

i dont even find Tidus that annoying..yet.

[MrConeman]

One of the only redeeming factors in XII was the voice acting - true.

Simon Templeman done one of the judges, so obviously it was pretty good voice actors.

[Mister_Che]

'To Zanarkand' has to be one of Nobuo Uematsu's best pieces.

Definitely.

Simon Templeman done one of the judges, so obviously it was pretty good voice actors.

That's another thing I liked, the design of the Judges. I've got a Gabranth SE Play Arts figure that should be coming soon. I bought the Cloud on Motorcycle figure from them not too long ago as well. Good quality.

[Brew]

the voice acting in IVDS is pretty lol-worthy.

[Happy]

To be fair, the voice acting in FFXII was a major leap over the voice acting in X.

I seriously put that down to the fact that they didn't all have American accents.
It makes it more authentic.

[Anglachel]

the voice acting in IVDS is pretty lol-worthy.
Thank you Rosa, but I know what I've become...

I squirm at that line every time

actually the only voice I really liked was Cid's

AND SO YOUNG TOO!
bombs away!
try stopping this golbez! My once-in-a-lifetime unaided flight!

[Chrysostom]

To be fair, the voice acting in FFXII was a major leap over the voice acting in X.

The voicing in XII was actively good. Especially Basch, Balthier and Fran, not to mention a lot if not most of the NPCs.

That's another thing I liked, the design of the Judges.

Agreed. I'd have applied to be a Judge, just because of the armour and the title 'Judge Magister' - it sounds so good.

I've got a Gabranth SE Play Arts figure that should be coming soon. I bought the Cloud on Motorcycle figure from them not too long ago as well. Good quality.

Ahh man that is awesome. I keep meaning to start building up an action figure collection. One day...it'll begin with the Advent Children Vincent figurine.

[Mister_Che]

I've got tons of the Batman: Black and White collection:

http://dccomics.com/media/product/5/0/5019_180x270.jpg
http://dccomics.com/media/product/7/5/7539_180x270.jpg
http://dccomics.com/media/product/9/2/9253_180x270.jpg

And the aforementioned Cloud:

http://www.hlj.com/images/kby/kbysq-57.jpg

[Brew]

I died for the first time today in Blue Dragon, about an hour after I'd last saved. bah :(

[RetiredAt21]

I've never played Blue Dragon, I heard it wasn't that great.

[Brew]

yeah, its not great. some of the music is good though, along with the battle system (same system FFX used).

[Happy]

I never really liked being able to use all your characters in battle.

[Brew]

there isn't the option of switching between characters mid-battle in Blue Dragon, but the turn based system FFX used is there, so you know when an enemy is going to attack etc..

I kinda liked being able to change my team mid-battle in X, made grinding levels into everyone a bit quicker.

[Anglachel]

i didnt grind in X until the very end

[RetiredAt21]

I started grinding in X pretty early.

[Anglachel]

why it was so easy :C

[Lionheart1827]

Wow this thread is still open. I havent been on this forum in over a year. Good to see this thread still alive. I have to pickup the 3rd Black Mages album.:thumb:

[Pop music sucks]

You missed a lot of bullpoop hacking ****ing up the forums cause of large bundle of sticks squirrels with sand up their spatulas

[Chrysostom]

Anyone else noticed how all the final fantasy universes are united by the character of Gilgamesh?

[RetiredAt21]

And Cid.

[Chrysostom]

And Cid.

That's not quite the same. Every Cid is a different person, but Gilgamesh is always Gilgamesh.

[MrConeman]

Anyone else noticed how all the final fantasy universes are united by the character of Gilgamesh?

No? He's not in them all. Granted though in each of them that he's in, he's the same guy.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Gilgamesh is a fuc‪king badass. He's the reason I played FFXII, I just wanted to hear the new Battle on the Bridge music.

[Chrysostom]

Love that DiMaggio voiced him in XII. The new Clash was badass.

[Happy]

Kinda wish he had more lines/characters in XII

[Chrysostom]

I've just looked at a guide explaining how to get Excalibur II in FFIX. All I can say is why would anyone bother? PAL users can't even get it and get a perfect game.

[RetiredAt21]

That's kinda stupid.

[fingers mccoy]

I've just looked at a guide explaining how to get Excalibur II in FFIX. All I can say is why would anyone bother? PAL users can't even get it and get a perfect game.

i think it's possible, i came very, very close

i did a perfect game without skipping fmvs, which adds on an extra 40 mins, and i came in under 11 hours. a PAL game adds about 2 hours. I dunno, I think you could come pretty close. I think if i did the same run through on a PAL system, skipping fmvs, i wouldve clocked about 10 minutes over, which is just about workable.

it's still hugely masochistic.

[RetiredAt21]

I would never rush through a FF game.

[Chrysostom]

^^ This. Looks like Steiner will only ever get a Ragnarok out of me.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Yeah, the point of FF games is the story, no point in rushing through it.

[christsimpson]

I just wanna point out that FFIX is the best game on PSX ever, and that it's the best in the series, and that I love it.

[Jim]

I just wanna point out that FFIX is the best game on PSX ever, and that it's the best in the series, and that I love it.



if MGS1 didn't exist, i would whole-heartedly agree with you

a toast to FFIX :chug:

[Anglachel]

nop mgs sucks

all of them

[christsimpson]

I recognise the quality in mgs, but those games are not for me. too slow paced. not EPIC and GODLIKE. you know... like FFIX.

[Brew]

MGS was pretty epic for me.

though it was a different kind of epic to a FF game.

[fingers mccoy]

mgs is great fun there's very little actual gameplay in it tho

nothing like a good final fantasy for that kind of gently guided explorative gameplay i love from videogames, i love those moments where you realise a whole bunch of new stuff has opened up for you to check out and you have to resort your priorities

[Liberi Fatali]

MGS is very epic in my estimation. MGS4 especially was amazingly awesome and epic.

But with mgs1 at least, I never quite had the same emotional connection as with playstation 1 era Final Fantasy games. So while awesome, not quite on the same level for me as FFIX or FFVIII.

[Chrysostom]

I'm going to make a stealth action game called MSG: Salty Snake.

[IgniteYourAvail]

mgs is great fun there's very little actual gameplay in it tho

nothing like a good final fantasy for that kind of gently guided explorative gameplay i love from videogames, i love those moments where you realise a whole bunch of new stuff has opened up for you to check out and you have to resort your priorities

I think you have MGS and Final Fantasy mixed up.

There's almost no gameplay in final fantasy games. You walk around and read dialog 70% of the time. MGS actually has you shooting things, moving around stealthily, etc.

Both series are great though.

[Liberi Fatali]

What about VIII, bashing the square button to boost your gf attacks was riveting gameplay. :p

[Chrysostom]

Did you guys know that Squenix toyed with the idea of a PS2 remake of IX in 2001?

[Anglachel]

Did you guys know that Squenix toyed with the idea of a PS2 remake of IX in 2001?
they should have :E

[fingers mccoy]

I think you have MGS and Final Fantasy mixed up.

There's almost no gameplay in final fantasy games. You walk around and read dialog 70% of the time. MGS actually has you shooting things, moving around stealthily, etc.

Both series are great though.

yah but there's about 2 hours of shooting things and moving around stealthily that's what i mean

with ix it's still gameplay if you're navigating menus and fighting battles i think that's just the nature of the game really

but yeh the mgs style is more involved of course

[Jim]

Did you guys know that Squenix toyed with the idea of a PS2 remake of IX in 2001?


wtf

this would have ruled. although a little unnecessary as the original was perfect

[Liberi Fatali]

You sure? Seems way too early to have a remake. Eventually though all ps1 era FF's deserve a remake.

[fingers mccoy]

Yeh vii could benefit from a lot of stuff, better translation, add in materia fusion, fort condor could be pretty spectacular, lots of stuff

wouldn't really be bothered about any of the other ones tho

[Happy]

You sure? Seems way too early to have a remake. Eventually though all ps1 era FF's deserve a remake.

They made X-2.
I wouldn't put anything past them.

[MrConeman]

I think you have MGS and Final Fantasy mixed up.

There's almost no gameplay in final fantasy games. You walk around and read dialog 70% of the time. MGS actually has you shooting things, moving around stealthily, etc.

Both series are great though.

That other 30% in Final Fantasy, of y'know, fighting, puzzle solving and exploring and everything is way way longer than an entire MGS game. In fact one Final Fantasy game's '30%' of gameplay is probably comparable to the entirety of the Metal Gear series. Metal Gear is nearly entirely cutscenes, and the games are really really short. If you really try and explore and just run around having fun, the absolute most I ever got out of an MGS game was like 15 hours. You can beat any of them in like 6 hours, and thats without even rushing.

I love MGS though.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh and tbh you can beat any metal gear quite easily in about 2 hours or less if you just run on through from point A to point B like most of the game asks you to

ff kinda forces exploration upon you which creates quite a bit more gameplay because it's not always precisely delineated what you need to do to advance the core narrative

it might seem artificial but it works

I do love MGS also, mostly for the challenges

[Chrysostom]

wtf

this would have ruled. although a little unnecessary as the original was perfect

I agree. And yet I would love to see it rendered realistically like XII, which would enable the characters to be closer in design to Amano's illustrations - his Zidane looks so much cooler than the actual version.

God, just imagine IX with XII level graphics. *drool*

[RetiredAt21]

Did you guys know that Squenix toyed with the idea of a PS2 remake of IX in 2001?

AH ****! They should have done it, would be awesome.

[MrConeman]

Am I the only person in the world who noticed that the graphics between VII and VIII jumped significantly, and VIII looks amazing - to this day. Yet between VIII and IX they got worse? and IX looks dated.

[Happy]

I think they did that on purpose. VIII was super realistic and IX was more cartoon-like.

Also, I heard VII was intended for N64.

[IgniteYourAvail]

IX was more medieval/cartoony, which is what I think they were going for.

And yeah, there's an early alpha ROM if FFVII for Nintendo 64, along with a bunch of sites talking about it.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh the visuals in ix were much much better than viii way more detail way better textures i dunno what you're talking about

[MrConeman]

VII was originally intended for Nintendo yeah, continuing on from VI being on the SNES Square were going with Nintendo, until they realised Nintendo were sticking with cartridges, so they went with the more powerful PS1.

yeh the visuals in ix were much much better than viii way more detail way better textures i dunno what you're talking about
Yeah, no.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlfH3r780So

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9T5te0xXA

[fingers mccoy]

yeh thanks for proving my point cheers

do you think cartoony graphics means worse graphics or something there's obviously a lot more detail and better fx in the ffix graphics

[MrConeman]

No, cartoony graphics can be great. IX's just aren't as good as they could have been, or as good as VIII's.

[RetiredAt21]

Uhh, IX definitely looks better than VIII.

[fingers mccoy]

yah dude those videos kinda prove it, better facial shaping and detail, better cloth textures, better lighting, ix's got tons over viii

[RetiredAt21]

yah dude those videos kinda prove it, better facial shaping and detail, better cloth textures, better lighting, ix's got tons over viii

Better everything except for the misshapen characters, but I think that was part of the old school charm.

[Chrysostom]

Poor Coney is in the minority. And sorry to say it, but rightfully so.

[MrConeman]

Am I the only person in the world who noticed that the graphics between VII and VIII jumped significantly, and VIII looks amazing - to this day. Yet between VIII and IX they got worse? and IX looks dated.

Well at least I knew it already :p

[Jim]

just weighing in the graphics in ix are superior to viii. the fmv's are way better too.

i honestly think a ix remake would be redundant. i never minded the original's cartoony charms. plus i would have thought they'd never bother anyway. sqare (and now squenix) seemed to have swept the whole game under the rug, considering how little attention it got compared to it's predecessors

a dem shame. a dem fine shame.

[Tillius_the_Second]

IX has superior graphics. By no means a better game though.

[christsimpson]

FFIX is the best looking game on PSX. there's not even a question about it. and it's also the best one when it comes to the story. the story and characters are far more epic on IX than on any other FF I've played.

imho of course.

[Jim]

and mine

[Liberi Fatali]

Seems like if you polled the thread now, quite a few would list it as their favourite FF.

Whereas when this thread started pretty much most would have said VII.

[doki]

FF8 is the most epic one storywise. Try list the events from start.

[RetiredAt21]

FFVI is my favorite. VII and IV rule, too.

[HighandDriving]

Ff8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chrysostom]

I really don't think I could choose between VII, VIII, and IX. Though IX had weaker characters in my opinion. I never really liked or felt anything for them like I did for Squall, Cloud, Vincent, Irvine, Cid, Tifa. None of them stood out. And I really don't get why everyone raves about Vivi. If I liked anyone in IX it was Steiner or Amarant.

[RetiredAt21]

I hated Amarant but I wuv Steiner and Vivi.

[Chrysostom]

Oh wait, I liked Freya quite a bit too. Why does everyone love Vivi so much? He was just some whiny little kid.

[Anglachel]

Vivi wasnt whiny at all

[fingers mccoy]

he was pretty chill he just had an acute identity issue which is understandable really

[Chrysostom]

Yeah, OK whiny was the wrong word. But his constant uncertainy about himself annoyed the hell out of me. Don't get why everyone loves him so.

[Anglachel]

because hes a little timid kid with an identity issue and he does nothing annoying the whole game

[IgniteYourAvail]

<3 Vivi

[Anglachel]

man i remember when everyone seperated to fight the four fiends i wanted to fight tiamat with steiner and vivi so bad

it woulda been so kickass

[MrConeman]

Vivi was boring. Stiener I would hang with.

[Chrysostom]

Coney, I love you. Finally someone on my side.

[RetiredAt21]

The black mage village in FFIX was so cool.

[christsimpson]

Zidane and Blank are awesome. that game was so medieval and epic it's siq.

[Happy]

Vivi was cool because he was like 4 and could use all those spells.

[The Transporter]

vivi was cool because he was the only playable character in that game who didn't look completely retarded

[RetiredAt21]

vivi was cool because he was the only playable character in that game who didn't look completely retarded

Steiner was cool, too.

Zidane was lame and annoying.

[fingers mccoy]

quina was cool cause she didn't give a **** about anything apart from food and she must've had the driest tongue in the world but she still licked everything all over the place

and she had limit glove and auto life since like halfway through disc 1 which kicked ***

[Happy]

Only person to ever admit they like Quina.

[christsimpson]

Quina is awesome. also it's not a her. it's a s/he.

[fingers mccoy]

Quina is awesome. also it's not a her. it's a s/he.

no way dude she's got a girl's name I've thought long and hard about this and I'm going with girl

[christsimpson]

Quina is a surname

[fingers mccoy]

Quina is a surname

are you sure

pretty sure her surname's quen

[fatbandit]

Quina Quen. Uhuh.

And Yeah, I figured out the Auto Life/Limit Glove trick on my first playthrough and totally pwned FFIX ever since basically. Quina is a great character. Doesn't soak up damage too well though I seem to remember.

[christsimpson]

are you sure

pretty sure her surname's quen

no like irl Quina is a surname. like Nelinho Quina.

[-Listy-]

im really enjoying this playthrough of X, haven't played it in years - im upto the thunder plains..don't you get an item if you dodge the lightning a certain number of times?

also, this has to be one of my fave pieces of FF music ever -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImqlU_ZeuaU&feature=related&fmt=18

apparently it wasn't done by Uematsu though

[IgniteYourAvail]

Yeah, you get a piece of Lulu's celestial weapon for dodging the lightning ~200 times.

[Happy]

Which is a pain in the arse to get.

[RetiredAt21]

Yeah it is, I didn't even bother doing it.

[-Listy-]

yeah i really cant be bothered doing that just now..

[RetiredAt21]

I was so happy when I got the Yojimbo summon. That was cool.

[Brew]

I remember Yojimbo being pretty badass.

Or Yojimitsu/Yoshijimbo as me and a friend used to call him.

[Happy]

You know what, Gilgamesh's music is awesome.

[Anglachel]

Battle on the Big Bridge is one of the best FF songs

[Chrysostom]

Got to love the Black Mage version.

[RetiredAt21]

I haven't played FFV in a real long time. The only problem I have with V is that the story seems just a bit weak. I mean, it has it's cool points and whatnot, but overall it just feels weak.

[Jim]

don't you get an item if you dodge the lightning a certain number of times?

there's a spot i found where the lightning struck like every 8 or so seconds everytime. i can't remember exactly where it was but it was totally predictable and i brought up the 200 dodges very quickly

i just remembered X was quite awesome

[Happy]

hmm 200 x 8 is 1600 seconds.

25 minutes dodging lightning sounds boring as hell.

[fatbandit]

Not as boring as getting hit at 197 and having to do it again

iygbluygiyktvfoty9rf it7rui ytgv

[Brew]

getting hit at 199 would be worse

[RetiredAt21]

hmm 200 x 8 is 1600 seconds.

25 minutes dodging lightning sounds boring as hell.

It is.

[IgniteYourAvail]

hmm 200 x 8 is 1600 seconds.

25 minutes dodging lightning sounds boring as hell.

Yeah, don't even bother getting it. Tidus/Wakka/Rikku is the ideal team anyways.

[RetiredAt21]

I always used Tidus/Auron/Lulu.

[spitfirejunky]

So for some reason I still can't get either the Luck-J scroll or the Three Stars scroll from the Obel Lake sidequest. This quest rarely acts up for me (actually I only remember it being broken once), but now that I've finally started an all-items game it's decided to act up.

It's gonna be pretty damn lame if I have to refine them. Any idea on how to unbreak this stupid quest?

[Anglachel]

Tidus/Wakka/Rikku ruled because you didnt end up having a **** team for water fights

[fatbandit]

Finding chocographs is boring. Chocobo Hot and Cold. Who invented it? They want shooting.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Tidus/Wakka/Rikku ruled because you didnt end up having a **** team for water fights

Yeah, and they all had the best Limit Breaks.

[Jamais_Vu]

Every time I played FFX I never used Rikku for anything cause I thought she was annoying. Just like how I never got Yuffie in FFVII.

[IgniteYourAvail]

If I didn't know that Mix was amazing, I wouldn't have used her either. She's really annoying.

[-Listy-]

rikku rules

[Liberi Fatali]

Yeah, and they all had the best Limit Breaks.
Rikku's limit break was lame. I hated having to use up precious items for attacks.

[jrowa001]

Auron had the best limit breaks

[Jamais_Vu]

I loved using Kimarhi cause his lancet was awesome. Using Doom on Yu Yevon is the way to go.

[Jim]

Finding chocographs is boring. Chocobo Hot and Cold. Who invented it? They want shooting.



KWEEEEEEEHH!! :naughty:

i loved the treasure hunting in that game :'(

[fingers mccoy]

just gonna clear up rikku's limit break and choco hot and cold are both amazing

[RetiredAt21]

Auron had the best limit breaks

Truth.

[doki]

hot and cold is annoying however the idea of finding treasure on the whole world map using chocobo is awesome.

[Chrysostom]

Tidus/Wakka/Rikku is the ideal team anyways.

Does not compute. Rikku is up their with Cait Sith, Zell, Quina, Yuna and Penelo as being one of the lamest characters in FF history.

I always used Tidus/Auron/Lulu.

Oh, that's a nice team. I would opt for Yuna/Auron/Lulu, because I'm fond of white mage/tank/black mage combinations in FF. I feel it covers all the essential tactical bases.

[doki]

I always thought ffx story was like monkey when I start playing them

[RetiredAt21]

Huh?

[Happy]

Finding chocographs is boring. Chocobo Hot and Cold. Who invented it? They want shooting.

Next to VIII's cards, that was the best minigame.

[fatbandit]

Don't get me started on cards, hahaha.

Bad times.

[MrConeman]

FFVIII's cards were awesome fun, until the rules all changed to make it ridiculous. So because of that I still think the Gold Saucer has the most fun factor for any FF game.

Battle Square, Submarine game, Snowboarding, Chocobo Racing. Nothing competes.

[doki]

Huh?

monkey, the chinese folk tale thing
priest go around meet people, they become his disciple
together travel to the west to find bible or some sort
but yeah nevermind, dont worry about it.

[fatbandit]

Exactly. How are you supposed to win that card from Ellone in space when the rules are so effed up. Its so stupid.

[Brew]

I vaguely remember my friend telling me there was a guy on board the Ragnarok who had every card available in the game and if you spent long enough playing him you could win them all. does anyone else know about this..?

[spitfirejunky]

You can win as many Squall cards as you want from Laguna, that's the extent of my knowledge.

The Card Queen can be driven to different cities when you beat her, and at some point she has every card in the game.

[Chrysostom]

Frankly, IX's card game was superior.

Wow, towards the back end of XII, the independent merchants really come into their own, selling items you can't get anywhere else. 235:30:00...that's the most time I've spent on a game ever, except for Dragon Quest which I think is even higher.

[MAthiAS]

If only there were no random rule spreading all over the place forever and ever... god damn.

Still, Triple Triad is definitely the best minigame. Going all over the world playing that stuff was so fun, and it actually had some purpose with refinement and all.

[Jim]

they need to bring back cards or something that can be played with locals.

even marbles or some **** i don't care!

[Alligator]

lol marbles! that would be so epic!

[fingers mccoy]

ix's card game was good but the stat system was a little arcane without enough in-game explanation and there were about two external rewards to it

viii's was simpler, a little more engaging and more rewarding, it was a very clever system for those who wanted to avoid grinding to farm items

[Happy]

Exactly. How are you supposed to win that card from Ellone in space when the rules are so effed up. Its so stupid.

Well by then you should have enough skill to do it.

And if you get crap cards you reset your game.

Or, if you don't mind not having all the cards, get rid of all your lower level ones so you know you're going to draw decent cards.

IX's card game was far harder, it took me a long while to get it.

[fingers mccoy]

with viii the amount of rules in different regions is somewhat randomised but can also be controlled

i dont remember if in space every rule is enforced but there's been a few of them every time i've played like same wall and random

i personally think those rules make it easier to win with shitty cards tho you just have to understand them

[Happy]

Random always turns up in Esthar/space.

You can avoid it until then.

[Brew]

i'm going to fire up my game on VIII later and play some cards.

[Happy]

Sounds like a plan, pity I can't transfer memory card saves onto my PS3 :(

[Brew]

really? I thought there was an adapter available so you could do that?

[Happy]

If there is I don't know about it.

[Mister_Che]

So for some reason I still can't get either the Luck-J scroll or the Three Stars scroll from the Obel Lake sidequest. This quest rarely acts up for me (actually I only remember it being broken once), but now that I've finally started an all-items game it's decided to act up.

It's gonna be pretty damn lame if I have to refine them. Any idea on how to unbreak this stupid quest?

Can't think of anything, this quest has always gone well for me, sorry. :(

I vaguely remember my friend telling me there was a guy on board the Ragnarok who had every card available in the game and if you spent long enough playing him you could win them all. does anyone else know about this..?

After you recover the Ragnarok on Disc 4, you can fly to Esthar. Somewhere on that continent (outside the city) there is a peninsula. There are no markings, but if you walk around the peninsula which reaches into a lake, you should find her standing outside some kind of escape pod. She's supposed to have all sorts of rare cards, and I think I won Gilgamesh and Laguna from her when I played her (I had nearly all the rare cards at that point).

[Happy]

I never knew about that, I'll have to check it out if I ever miss any cards.

[Brew]

I just fired up my game on VIII and it turns out I'm on disc 3. I'm at the part where you ram the Ragnarok into the Lunatic Pandora and proceed to get whipped by Fujin and Rajin (well, I got whipped anyways).

I'm sure I had a save on disc 4 just before the final battle but it seems to have been deleted or is on the memory card thats been lost at my girlfriends parents house :-\

[Happy]

Whipped by Fujin and Rajin lol

[doki]

Exterminate!

[Happy]

YES!!

wtf was going on with those two

[Brew]

Shock

edit: damn caps filter.

anyway, they were cool. funnier than i remember them being.

[Happy]

Like the Zorn and Thorn of VIII only less annoying.

[Brew]

Zorn and Thorn were of IX :p

Z & T remind me of Porom and Palom from IV.

[doki]

Everyone should get their best friend [or better your twins] and talk like Zorn and Thorn.

[Happy]

Zorn and Thorn were of IX :p

Z & T remind me of Porom and Palom from IV.

I know they were from IX, just saying Fujin and Rajin were VIII's version of them.

[RetiredAt21]

I hated Palom and Parom in IV. So annoying.

[Chrysostom]

I haven't even played IV yet, and already I know I'm going to hate P & P.

[Anglachel]

on ds give one an augment and the other 2 though

you get the best augments from the elder after theyre stone if you do

well three of the best the twincasts are best for giving to other temp characters

[Brew]

just stumbled across this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCJ-ARDzU-4

short, but sweet

[BenJammin]

In FFVII, I can't get Barret's level 4 limit until after the train bit, right?

[Brew]

one of the villagers gives you the item needed to learn it after the train bit, though I can't remember which one

[Anglachel]

I got Echoes of Time yesterday

[BenJammin]

one of the villagers gives you the item needed to learn it after the train bit, though I can't remember which one

Yeah, it's the woman in one of the houses. I just couldn't remember if it could be done before the train bit or not. Sigh, that's so far away. I've already got all of my level 3 limits.

I just did the bit at Wutai with Yuffie and the pagoda... I'm at level 50, almost. :lol:

[Happy]

If you crash the train you don't get it, right?

[-Listy-]

dont you still get it but you dont get the ultima materia? or am i just totally wrong

[RetiredAt21]

You still get it but you don't get the Ultima materia.

[Happy]

That could be it, its been a long time.

[RetiredAt21]

FFVII makes me so nostalgic...

[Brew]

Yeah, if the train crashes you don't get Ultima.

[Happy]

Ultima really isn't that great thinking about it.

[RetiredAt21]

It's pretty useful.

[MrConeman]

You get Ultima for free if you save Corel from the train. If it crashes you have to pay for it, but you still get it.

I'm sort of encyclopedic with that game, it's a little sad. I love VIII almost as much, but I never remember little things like this the way I do with VII.

[fatbandit]

Finished with that effin' Chocobo Hot n Cold. Finally. Now I can get back to proper FFIX.

I need more Gil for weapons/synth, but I don't want to grind on Grand Dragons or whatever to get it. What gives out the best returns for Gil in this game? Besides the robe trick.

[Brew]

You get Ultima for free if you save Corel from the train. If it crashes you have to pay for it, but you still get it.

I'm sort of encyclopedic with that game, it's a little sad. I love VIII almost as much, but I never remember little things like this the way I do with VII.

I remember my brother being really annoyed that he had to buy Ultima.

[MrConeman]

If I recall you're made to pay something like 50,000 gil. I think.
Which at that point in the game you probably can't really afford unless you've been grinding or saving.

[fatbandit]

It is so hard to crash the train. I don't see how its possible :/

[Brew]

my brother managed it once and was really pissed about having to pay for it :lol:

[Happy]

I've crashed it once.

[MrConeman]

I crashed it my first play through of the game. Given I was like 7 though.

[BenJammin]

It is so hard to crash the train. I don't see how its possible :/

Yeah, really.

I'm not planning on crashing it, but I've got 250k gil, anyway, so no biggie.

[Bread and Faxes]

I sold Final Fantasy VII for 45 dollars :cool:

[fatbandit]

You know you could have made twice that easily, don't you?

[Bread and Faxes]

I'm not about making money off it. I just wanted to give the dude who wanted it a good deal. I mean, he deserves to play the game as much as I do. So I sold it for a mere 45 bucks.

[fatbandit]

I think that's a game I couldn't sell. Even if I never played it again.

[Bread and Faxes]

I don't have a problem sharing the wealth.

I have 2 copies. Well, one now.

[Happy]

I can't find mine :(

[Jim]

then you don't deserve one!

for shame

[rasputin]

if someone can direct me towards a cheap PAL version of FFIX I will be eternally grateful

[Jim]

well i practically kiss mine before i go to bed at night, so i'm out

i would guess there'd be quite a few second hand copies floating around, considering a lot of FF fans didn't like it much

[rasputin]

yeah i look around, ebay usually has way overpriced copies, and i remember seeing one at a store here for like 80 dollars and i sort of regret not buying it but spending 80 dollars on the game is a bit silly anyway

[Jim]

wow it must've been mint condish

mine was a birthday present and i was like "um thanks". then i played it and three months passed in a night. it was pretty immense.

[rasputin]

i used to have a chipped copy but i never finished it, which is why i'm so hellbent on getting it. plus it's my favourite final fantasy

[Jim]

and mine. i'm not surprised you like it, you seem to dig the oldskool stuff and this tips it's hat to it and then some

[rasputin]

yeah, that's pretty much the reason. i dislike the whole futuristic style they had with most of the others, eg. VIII.

[Liberi Fatali]

VIII wasn't really futuristic, other than Esthar.

[spitfirejunky]

Early 20th century if you ask me.

[Liberi Fatali]

Early 20th century if you ask me.
Sure you don't mean 21st?

[rasputin]

VIII wasn't really futuristic, other than Esthar.
Um what? Advanced weaponry/technology, rocket ships, etc. etc. It had a very futuristic/sci/fi feel to it.