The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[Chrysostom]

LOL! Win.

[Bread and Faxes]

I gotta beat the son of the sun now :/

[The Transporter]

Final Attack > Phoenix

[fingers mccoy]

just revisited my speed run save on ff9





:lol: regen hits like twice a second my characters are so ****ing pumped after levelling up with the best equipment in the game

[The Transporter]

stopped playing 9 due to the stupid requirements to get steiner's best weapon: the steiner recliner

[Chrysostom]

So annoying that Steiner and Dagger disappear halfway through and when they come back they haven't levelled up like everyone else. I'd try and get through by not even using them, but there's no other white mage in the game (aside from Eiko who I refuse to use).

[Mister_Che]

I tried beating Emerald Weapon with lucky 7s. Doesn't kill it if you go into the fight with 7777 HP. There are plenty of easy strategies for emerald anyway though, so all was fine :)

I know Aire Tam Storm was based on materia equipped, but I don't think Emerald had other little tricks besides that.

[fingers mccoy]

there is a point at which you can level the hell out of steiner while he's disappeared if you have the bloodsword

also if you level up marcus loads then his stats transfer to eiko, tho not his level

which obviously means you can turn eiko into a ****ing beast but i wasnt ever bothered to do that

[fatbandit]

Really? That's kind of neat - why is there a correlation between Marcus and Eiko? :O


And yes, Aire Tam Storm does 1111 damage for every materia you have equipped. But I'm not quite sure what you're getting at? All I'm saying is that the damage from an All Lucky 7s rampage won't take Emerald down :)

[Mister_Che]

Ah, nevermind. I misread the quote.

[fatbandit]

(Y) All is fine :)

I have totally lost the drive to play games anymore. It is kind of sad, but I know that I will have a lot more spare time :p I do feel like replaying FFIX at some point though. Maybe a challenge. Last playthrough I just found a few cheap tricks and abused them (Auto Life + Limit Glove anyone?).

But I can't find the discs :(

[fingers mccoy]

ffix perfect game challenge is awesome

[Anglachel]

I gotta beat the son of the sun now :/
cake

max speed in the game is 16 and thats rly easy to get so if you get it you can hit prominence before it roulette rolls again

[Happy]

ffix perfect game challenge is awesome

ffix is just awesome in general.

[RetiredAt21]

FFIX made me feel warm and fuzzy the first time I played it. Card game was kinda fun, too.

[Brew]

I remember getting FFIX for my 13th birthday.

[Happy]

I got it pretty much the day it came out.
That made me... 11 haha.

[Brew]

I remember wanting it when it was released but had to wait 'til March when my birthday rolled around.

[Happy]

Those must have been the two worst months of your life.

[Brew]

heh heh, it would've been alright had it not been for my friend constantly going on about how she already had it and saying how good it was. She also completed VIII before me, bah.

[Happy]

Only me and a friend liked Final Fantasy, and he always had to wait until Christmas for his, so I was always the first to get the new ones :D

[MAthiAS]

I remember pre-ordering VIII with my mom, probably one of the happiest days of my life.

[fingers mccoy]

i picked up VII when i saw the tv advert it was before i even knew what a memory card was and i was like holy **** this looks as fun as crash bandicoot

but i left it for a long time cause i didnt know how to save and i was fed up of getting up to the traain graveyard

then several years later, one of my friends was having a problem with the first boss, another was having a problem with the tomb of the unknown king on VIII, and someone else was having a problem with Gizamaluke on IX

all in the same weekend

it was a ****ing great weekend

[fingers mccoy]

been working on a uni assignment for about 15 hours straight playing chrono cross for 30 mins every 2 hours

never played chrono cross before today, it's brilliant!

[Mister_Che]

Really? You're missing out! It's a great game.

My first memory of Final Fantasy was with Final Fantasy VII in fifth grade. I was at a friends house since we were all going to have a pool party and I saw the case. I picked it up and was amazed to see it was 3 discs. My buddy Arvin said something to me along the lines of "That's a long game you might think it's too hard."

[Happy]

Haha, I think i was introduced to it the exact same way.
I remember playing it going "HEY DALE WHATS THIS FLYING SHADOW???" and he was like "give me my controller back, that's the Ultimate Weapon"

[iliketoplaydrums10111]

i started playing FF6 advance on GBA again, that game is so damn good i can't stop playing it, luckily for me i'm done with homework and the only thing i have to do the rest of the day is eat, smoke pot, drink alcohol and play FF6

:cool:

i <333 college

[Chrysostom]

there is a point at which you can level the hell out of steiner while he's disappeared if you have the bloodsword

When and where is this?

also if you level up marcus loads then his stats transfer to eiko, tho not his level

Who the hell is Marcus? And why would his stats transfer to Eiko?

[fingers mccoy]

k remember when steiner is trapped in a cage with one of the tantalus band beneath alexandria palace and you have to swing back and forth to get out?

well the bandit he's with is marcus.

as soon as you get out of the cage there is a constant stream of alexandrian soldiers that gun for you

so if you stand in the middle of the area, equip the bloodsword and level up to the point at which you do a respectable amount of damage compared to the alexandrian soldiers, you can just kick back, watch tv and keep pressing the x button to level up loads

after about an hour you could hit something like level 30 which is decent enough

usually whoever doesnt have the bloodsword equipped dies, but if you keep him in the back row (i dunno if you can get auto-potion by that point) and periodically check on him, you can probably level him up simultaneously.

i have no idea why, but marcus' stats transfer directly to eiko as soon as you get her, so if you level up marcus fully with good equipment you can get her some really pumped stats

the best configuration for boosting her stats that way is to gain:

3 levels with the Steepled Hat, Bone Wrist, Chain Plate and Power Belt
3 levels with the Steepled Hat, Bone Wrist, Chain Plate and Magician Shoes
and 92 levels with the Steepled Hat, Bone Wrist, Chain Plate and Glass Buckle

then level eiko up with really good gear:
2 with the Magic Racket, Holy Miter, Magic Armlet, Minerva's Plate and Dark Matter
and 99 with the Magic Racket, Holy Miter, Power Wrist, Minerva's Plate and Dark Matter

to get:

Spd 28
Str 90
Mag 93
Spr 50

which are very good stats.

I don't really think anyone actually wants to do this, but this is what you can do if you want to have the highest possible stats for all characters.

[fatbandit]

Marcus is one of the members of Tantalus, no?

Do any of the party gain stats is Blank gains them too?

edit: bit late

[fingers mccoy]

no i dont think it works for anyone else

[MAthiAS]

i picked up VII when i saw the tv advert it was before i even knew what a memory card was and i was like holy **** this looks as fun as crash bandicoot
YEAH MAN I SAW THAT COMMERCIAL TOO that's how I first discovered Final Fantasy. It had a clip of the motorcycle scene and I just knew the game had to be incredible. Rented it that week and couldn't even figure out where the door out of the first area into the reactor was, but I still thought the game was worth buying just cuz of the incredible intro... and the rest is history.

[spitfirejunky]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=U2of98A86aI

[fingers mccoy]

YEAH MAN I SAW THAT COMMERCIAL TOO that's how I first discovered Final Fantasy. It had a clip of the motorcycle scene and I just knew the game had to be incredible. Rented it that week and couldn't even figure out where the door out of the first area into the reactor was, but I still thought the game was worth buying just cuz of the incredible intro... and the rest is history.lol it was so funny in that game when they were like 'head [south] to the temple of the ancients' and i was like i dont know where the **** south is i'm gonna go back to gongaga i liked gongaga

i got stuck in wutai and thought it would actually be impossible for me to get out so i gave up on the game for about a year until i learned the compass directions in class

[Jim]

ffix was my first final fantasy. i got it for my birthday once and was like "meh", and then i took it home and decided to give it go - who knows it might be a bit of fun!

once i reached the village of dali the conversion was complete. this game was ****ing sweet.

/story

[Brew]

FFVII was my first, I remember trading in Command and Conquer to get it.

Everytime I try and play it through my PS2 these days it glitches quite alot which is really annoying.

[Jim]

that sucks. get a psone man. it would be worth it.

i don't really like emulators

[Happy]

Or buy a PS3 for when its released on the online store.

[Jim]

ooh it's being released on the playstationstore? sounds like a future download...

[Happy]

I've heard it will be.
Fingers crossed, because I don't want to scuff up my discs anymore.

[Anglachel]

been working on a uni assignment for about 15 hours straight playing chrono cross for 30 mins every 2 hours

never played chrono cross before today, it's brilliant!
who led you to viper manor

please say guile please say guile

EDIT: my first FF was 4
i remember playing it on zsnes and when you had to go to the electromagnetic cave or w/e i didnt know you had to get a black chocobo so i lost patience trying to land the enterprise near it and quit

[Bread and Faxes]

cake

max speed in the game is 16 and thats rly easy to get so if you get it you can hit prominence before it roulette rolls again

Ok, I've done all of that. I guess I need to find the moon stone. Since the sun stone is missing, and the mayors place is glowing and **** I suppose that has something to do with it?

[Pop music sucks]

My first FF was VI. Never even completed it, but the game was freakin awesome.

[Brew]

that sucks. get a psone man. it would be worth it.

i don't really like emulators

I do have a PS1 but its a temperamental old bastard, alot of the time it refuses to load games so I have to sit there mashing the reset button which after about 2minutes gets boring and annoying :(

[FakePlasticTrees]

FFVII was my first.



I got it when I visited my grandma. She cried when Aeris died.

[Anglachel]

Ok, I've done all of that. I guess I need to find the moon stone. Since the sun stone is missing, and the mayors place is glowing and **** I suppose that has something to do with it?
yeah g2 600 AD and in that house the woman will want some Spiced Jerky
you have to buy it somewheres for a shitload of money

go back to the woman and choose to give it to her for free then go back to 1000 and the guy will give you the moon stone for free

[HighandDriving]

FFVII was my first.



I got it when I visited my grandma. She cried when Aeris died.

FF7 was my first too and I came close to crying when Aeris died and raged so much I dedicated myself to finishing the game so I could avenge her.

Honestly.

FF8 was my second and I liked it more then FF7.

[IgniteYourAvail]

My friend spoiled it for me because he had a strategy guide with the picture of her dying in it and I got angry.

[The Transporter]

FFXIII will not be released in the US until April 2010

[Happy]

I dunno about you guys but whenever I hear the music from VII-IX (and its starting to happen with X), I feel really sad because I was so young when I was playing those games and like now I'm a lot older and there's more to life than sitting in playing FF all day.

Its hard to explain.

[fingers mccoy]

who led you to viper manor

please say guile please say guile

lol originally pierre but i restarted my game cause he was such a dickhead and then i picked guile

but there's no way poshul is ever leaving my party after that thpontaneouthly computhted line

[IgniteYourAvail]

I remember a load of stuff from back when I played the games when I hear the music. It's amazing.

[Happy]

Uematsu certainly knew what he was doing.

[Brew]

Hearing certain pieces of music from VII makes me want to play it again but I just don't have the time to properly lose myself in an RPG at the moment :(

[fingers mccoy]

whenever i think of viii i think of that tune with the repeating cycle of military drums that starts playin the tune on woodwind but then introduces a really funny sneery guitar sound

whenever i think of vii i either think of the shinra tune or the tune that plays when cloud and tifa are reminiscing about nibelheim in the 7th heaven

whenever i think of ix i think of the fossil roo or desert palace music but i think that's skewed by the hundreds of hours i spent in those places trying to get through with no encounters

whenever i think of x i think of the music that comes in Home with the guy that keeps repeating something that sounds exactly like 'an annoying chant! an annoying chant! an annoying chant!'

[Jim]

whenever i think of x i think of the music that comes in Home with the guy that keeps repeating something that sounds exactly like 'an annoying chant! an annoying chant! an annoying chant!'
omg yes i forgot about that

hearing FF music again after so many years is strangely emotional

[Brew]

I can highly recommend everyone aqquires the soundtracks to their favourite FF games.

ffdream.com is a good place to start looking, its a French site but easy enough to navigate.

[Happy]

all you need to know is telecharger means download.

FFVII, I always think of the slower tunes, Red XIII's theme, Interrupted by Fireworks.

FFVIII, I think of the awesome music when you're on your way to dollet on the Seed mission

FFIX, the main theme and the theme that plays a lot whenever Steiner and Beatrix are together

As for FFX, the only songs I really remember well from that are At Zanarkand and Auron's theme. Awesome stuff.

[Brew]

Ahh, it'll take me awhile to shortlist my favourite Final Fantasy songs.

Some that really stick out in my memory are;

FFIV - the red wings theme, mysidia, palom & porom
FFV - the first dungeon you get to, that music kicks ***
FFVI - terra's theme
FFVII - 'great warrior', 'the forested temple', 'sending a dream into the universe'
FFVIII - 'maybe i'm a lion', 'blue fields'
FFIX - 'the place i'll return to someday'
FFX - zanarkand

[Chrysostom]

'Lifestream' from FFVII is one of the best pieces Uematsu has ever written.

[spitfirejunky]

I wanna hear an orchestral remake of FFVIII's Legendary Beast. That song is so epic.

[Anglachel]

lol originally pierre but i restarted my game cause he was such a dickhead and then i picked guile

but there's no way poshul is ever leaving my party after that thpontaneouthly computhted line
pierre is such a douche hes like the chrono cross version of tata just playable

guile was supposed to be magus but they couldnt flesh out enough scenes with him so they made him an entirely new character

which is lame because if he was magus it would be a real sequel

anyways guile never left my party because hes the best magic user in the game (or lategame anyways)

[fingers mccoy]

awesome glad i made that choice then

[BenJammin]

Guile / Glenn / Serge ftw.

[Anglachel]

Guile / Glenn / Serge ftw.
my party always

essentially Crono / Frog / Magus
which is also my party always

[fatbandit]

The fully orchestrated version of the Final Fantasy VII overworld theme is one of my favourite pieces of music ever.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I used to really love that theme. Uematsu creates some beautiful pieces. Since I most recently played X, To Zanarkand is one of my favorites right now. It's one of the saddest pieces he's written, I think.

[Brew]

Great Warrior from FFVII is a pretty sad piece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfiCDp9Q6A8

edit: ahh, hearing this makes me want to fire up a new game on VII.

[Mister_Che]

Since I most recently played X, To Zanarkand is one of my favorites right now. It's one of the saddest pieces he's written, I think.

God yes.

[Chrysostom]

I wanna hear an orchestral remake of FFVIII's Legendary Beast. That song is so epic.

Oh man that would be awesome. That's another Uematsu classic.

[Bread and Faxes]

I'm running out of things to do in Chrono Trigger :/

[rasputin]

I'm running out of things to do in Chrono Trigger :/
that's such a classic game, i'm disappointed that i never finished it

[Bread and Faxes]

I'm so close to done. But I'm only on level 55. I don't want to get to 100. That'll take forever.

[fingers mccoy]

holy **** i dont wanna be lynx **** this

[Anglachel]

holy **** i dont wanna be lynx **** this
lol you switch back eventually

[Anglachel]

I'm so close to done. But I'm only on level 55. I don't want to get to 100. That'll take forever.
finish the game then start a new game + and you get more dimensional vortexes and once you complete all of those you get a new final boss available from the end of time
which is the final boss from chrono cross but i dont think you've played so the spoiler doesnt matter

also ofc theres more to do theres 13 endings excluding the variations which adds up to almost 20


also idk if i asked but i hope you didnt kill magus in 12000bc

[The Transporter]

list the Final Fantasy games (and what systems) that you own

Final Fantasy I - NES
Final Fantasy IV/II - SNES
Final Fantasy VI/III -SNES
Final Fantasy VII - PSX & PC
Final Fantasy VIII - PSX
Final Fantasy IX - PSX
Final Fantasy X - PS2
Final Fantasy XII (collector's edition) - PS2

[Anglachel]

1-6 on gba & ds
10 ps2

[IgniteYourAvail]

holy **** i dont wanna be lynx **** this

I hated that part.

[fingers mccoy]

the bit that was like if you gave escher a pencil case full of crayons was so cool but **** lynx man

tho it was cool telling that kid i was totally into catnip

[fingers mccoy]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

...

i'm a cat!!!!!

[Mister_Che]

holy **** i dont wanna be lynx **** this

lol

**** it's been too long since I've played Chrono Cross.

[Brew]

list the Final Fantasy games (and what systems) that you own

Final Fantasy I - NES
Final Fantasy IV/II - SNES
Final Fantasy VI/III -SNES
Final Fantasy VII - PSX & PC
Final Fantasy VIII - PSX
Final Fantasy IX - PSX
Final Fantasy X - PS2
Final Fantasy XII (collector's edition) - PS2

Final Fantasy VII, VIII and IX - PSX
Final Fantasy X (along with its official strategy guide) - PS2

I have previously owned Final Fantasy IV, V and VI on the PSX, Final Fantasy III and IV on the DS and Final Fantasy XII on the PS2.

[Mister_Che]

Playing through FFVIII.

Just escaped the prison. I'm sending Selphie, Quistis, and Irvine to the Missile Base, not because I hate them or anything, but because I prefer Zell in my parties and because I like getting the bonus cutscene if Rinoa is in your party after Balamb Garden has lifted off.

Squall is ridiculously overpowered, at least, compared to the other two people in the party at the time. Over 4k HP, hits very hard for lvl 23. I'm going to start refining more Curaga for everyone else and start junctioning heavily into HP and Str. Unfortunately, none of the GF that I have have Spd-J so I can't junction the 100 Haste I have yet.

[Jamais_Vu]

Ah yes, FFVIII. The one FF game that hated me.

[Mister_Che]

lol, why? First disc didn't work? It's always the first disk.

[Jamais_Vu]

I had a major glitch with my second disc that caused Zell to have a seizure and I couldn't take him out of my party.

[Brew]

my first disc glitches on the opening video so I can't start a new game :(

[Happy]

That used to happen to mine because it was too scratched.

[Jamais_Vu]

Ouch, that sucks. I was able to beat the game about 3 times though. I kinda want to play it again now. I thought that Ultimecia was the hardest FF final boss I've fought, but then again I've only played 7,8,10, and 12. I wish I could play 3 and 6.

[Happy]

I liked the fact that the higher level you were, the harder the bosses were.

I'm really tempted to run through all the FFs again starting from VI or VII.

[Pop music sucks]

I loved using Irvine's Quick Shot.

and using Zell's extremely easy, fast X-O or [ ]-/\ limit breaks. You could seriously get like, 50 of those during one limit break attack.

[Happy]

Renzokuken was the nuts

[Brew]

I was always fond of Zell's limit break, but a maxed out Renzokuken was awesome.

[Happy]

I didn't like Irvine, never understood the hype.

[Jamais_Vu]

Has anyone here beaten Omega Weapon from FFVIII? I was never able to :(

[Happy]

I never found him, Ultima was hard, I can't imagine what Omega was like.

[Mister_Che]

Has anyone here beaten Omega Weapon from FFVIII? I was never able to :(

I have.

[Jamais_Vu]

Without a gameshark?

[IgniteYourAvail]

Has anyone here beaten Omega Weapon from FFVIII? I was never able to :(

<---

I think I killed him in a few shots, Lionheart and such.

[Mister_Che]

Without a gameshark?

Yep.

[spitfirejunky]

I Luck-capped Squall during Omega Weapon battle to see how often I can spit out Lionhearts. Worked pretty well last time I treid but I wasn't even sure if Luck had anything to do with the chance you shoot a Lionheart.

[Jamais_Vu]

Hmmm, I'll have to try that next time I attempt it.

[Mister_Che]

I Luck-capped Squall during Omega Weapon battle to see how often I can spit out Lionhearts. Worked pretty well last time I treid but I wasn't even sure if Luck had anything to do with the chance you shoot a Lionheart.

It does, but Luck-J is pretty rare and I think maybe two GF can learn it.

[Happy]

Now I am going to play FFVIII tomorrow.

[spitfirejunky]

It does, but Luck-J is pretty rare and I think maybe two GF can learn it.

Tonberry learns it and the other you pick up in a sidequest. I suspect Eden also learns it if you delete some abilities but this I'm not sure.

[Jamais_Vu]

Man, I wish I would have started playing it again earlier on this month since I go back to college on the 26th. I probably wouldn't be able to finish it if I started now.

[Happy]

Tonberry learns it and the other you pick up in a sidequest. I suspect Eden also learns it if you delete some abilities but this I'm not sure.

Tonberry is a nightmare to obtain.

[Mister_Che]

Strategy for OMEGA:

Party:

Squall
Rinoa (that's right)
Character of choice (Preferably Zell)

1. Rinoa. Contrary to popular belief, Rinoa's Angel Wing Limit Break IS NOT RANDOM. It does reflect the magic you have 98% of the time. Junction everything she has except Meteor. You actually only need one Meteor. Remove any magic that is not junctioned.

2. Level. Try to keep your characters at either Lvl. 90-99 but not 100. OMEGA starts the battle with Lvl. 5 Death, which will instantly kill any Lvl. 100 character.

3. Stats. Bring up as many stats as possible, preferably HP, Str, and Mag. Forget Vit and Spr (more on this later). Use Ultima for the best possible boost.

4. Commands. Defend will help alot here. I think Brothers has Defend. So equip it. Recover, Revive, Item are also necessary. Don't bother with GF, I beat Omega wihout GF so you'll be fine.

5. Items. Get 100 Megalixirs by refining the Bahamut card. Get 10 Holy-Wars by refining the Gilgamesh card (If you don't have it, win it from the Card Queen on disc 4. She is on the archipelago south of Esthar.).

6. Magic. Aura, Triple, and Haste are necessities. Have Zell use Triple then Triple again, then whoever comes next, use Aura (3x) then have somebody cast a Holy-War. Do this as fast as possible to avoid OMEGA's crushing attacks.

7. Limit Breaks. Squall should do the obvious here (you MUST have Lionheart, if you don't it'll become much MUCH harder.). Rinoa should use Angel Wing. Remember to only have Meteor and to have all other magic junctioned. Zell's Limit should be memorized. With a high Mag and Luck, you can get up to 12 seconds for his duel. Be sure to use limits after Aura and Holy-War are cast. Do NOT cast Holy-War first, Aura won't take effect if you do.

8. OMEGA. Take a quick round to memorize his pattern:

OMEGA uses high level Ultima and Flare randomly. He starts the battle with Lvl. 5 Death, so recover from that as necessary, or avoid it by avoiding levels that are dvisible by 5. Terra Break is 99% impossible to survive. You can survive this by using Defend. There may be instances where one character gets attacked less than the others. Megido Flame does exactly 9998 damage every time. OMEGA also had Light Pillar which does 9999 so be careful for that.

Good Luck, and don't give up. All you get is Proof of Omega and a Three Stars. The real satisfaction comes from beating the hardest Boss in nearly all the Final Fantasies.

*I'm tired now...

Found the old strategy I put up almost 4 years ago, in case you ever want to try it Jamais.

[Mister_Che]

Tonberry is a nightmare to obtain.

Blast them with Diabolos first then wail away.

[Brew]

I can't believe this thread is nearly 4 years old and I'm still amused by the second post.

[Happy]

We sure proved him wrong!

[spitfirejunky]

You can dodge death at lvl 100 with Pheonix Pinion. It's probably a better idea to keep everyone at lvl 100 to get the best limit breaks.

[Mister_Che]

Should have all of them by lvl 100.

[fatbandit]

I have the PC version of VIII - and I can't press every necessary button on the keyboard when I'm at the organ. So no Omega for me :(

[Anglachel]

I have the PC version of VIII - and I can't press every necessary button on the keyboard when I'm at the organ. So no Omega for me :(
how big's your keyboard/small are your hands?

[IgniteYourAvail]

how big's your keyboard/small are your hands?

Most keyboards have limits on how many keys you can press at once. Usually 2, 3, or 4.

[fatbandit]

Yep that's the one. I tried assigning all of the buttons to one key to get round it.

But it didn't work :(

[spitfirejunky]

Should have all of them by lvl 100.

What I meant was Squall's Lionheart has the highest probability of appearing at level 100, including Selphie's Full Cure, etc.

[fingers mccoy]

hooked up pSX with a wireless xbox 360 controller

now i can lie in bed and play final fantasy in my uni dorm with quicksave buttons mapped to the D-pad

this is so ****ing cool

[huxtaposition]

one of my fondest memories was pulling my big comfy arm chair over to my computer and playing FF5 on an emulator with the lights off and probably a cold beverage. so comfy and such awesome gaming. i hear ya man.

[Happy]

I just play them on my ps3 in bed :)

[Bread and Faxes]

finish the game then start a new game + and you get more dimensional vortexes and once you complete all of those you get a new final boss available from the end of time
which is the final boss from chrono cross but i dont think you've played so the spoiler doesnt matter

also ofc theres more to do theres 13 endings excluding the variations which adds up to almost 20


also idk if i asked but i hope you didnt kill magus in 12000bc

Nah, he's in my party.

[Anglachel]

yeah good

although if you want to complete the bestiary you will have to kill him during one new game +

[JerrySanders]

I'm looking forward to playing Final Fantasy Dissidia. I'm buying a PSP when that comes out in Northern America.

[fatbandit]

I just realised how nice a piece of music "A Place To Call Home" is from FFIX :)

[Happy]

Can't remember that one, where does it play in the game?

[fatbandit]

Its the one on the title screen.

[Chrysostom]

'Danger in the Forest' is better. :P

[fatbandit]

I don't actually remember IX having particularly outstanding music on the whole.

[Mister_Che]

If Fishermans Horizon existed, I would move there right away.

[fingers mccoy]

**** this i dont wanna be serge why cant i be lynx ****

[fatbandit]

Actually, come to think of it, there's not many places in Final Fantasy games I'd want to live. They're all crummy little small towns.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Rabanstre would be pretty cool. And Zanarkand.

[Mister_Che]

Actually, come to think of it, there's not many places in Final Fantasy games I'd want to live. They're all crummy little small towns.

Timber looked small as hell on the world map but it was actually a big city.

[Jamais_Vu]

Final Fantasy 10 has a lot of cool places to live in. I can't really remember them off the top of my head. That town in FF7 where Zach lived was cool....wow I can't remember any of the names of the towns right now.

[fingers mccoy]

nibelheim mother ****er

[Jamais_Vu]

Thank you. God I have no memory today.

[Chrysostom]

If Fishermans Horizon existed, I would move there right away.


Amen, brother.
Actually, come to think of it, there's not many places in Final Fantasy games I'd want to live. They're all crummy little small towns.


There's a buttload of great places to live in the FF games: Dali, Balamb, Lindblum, Rocket Town, Fisherman's Horizon, Rabanastre, Alexandria, Cosmo Canyon, Cleyra, the icy place up north in FFVII...

The only place that really is a suckass little village is Winhill.

[Jamais_Vu]

YES! I would definitely live in Cosmo Canyon. That place is awesome.

[Mister_Che]

the icy place up north in FFVII...

Icicle Village? I think thats what its called.

[fingers mccoy]

**** that i wouldnt wanna live in a place that blares out classically arranged folk melodies in a constant loop throughout the day where people raid your houses and then proceed to probe you for information about the town, their friends or the looming numinous physical forces or deities that are controlling the fate of the planet, and that has virtually no trade links with other towns

i'm moving to esthar and wearing ear plugs

[Mister_Che]

I'd like Esthar more if the music didn't have random 'hooting' here and there.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I'd like Esthar more if the music didn't have random 'hooting' here and there.

hahahah
oh my god

those hoots pissed me off

[Mister_Che]

woop


woop

[IgniteYourAvail]

and they were like orchestrated midi hoots

god damn

[Mister_Che]

Yeah wtf Nobuo. :/

[spitfirejunky]

**** that i wouldnt wanna live in a place that blares out classically arranged folk melodies in a constant loop throughout the day where people raid your houses and then proceed to probe you for information about the town, their friends or the looming numinous physical forces or deities that are controlling the fate of the planet, and that has virtually no trade links with other towns

i'm moving to esthar and wearing ear plugs

:lol:

I'd be split between Esthar and Besaid Village. If I can make trips periodically between the two that would be ace.

[Mister_Che]

Esthar looks dangerous to live in, but I'm sure they have the best videogames.

[Anglachel]

Figaro

[fingers mccoy]

lindblum would be pretty awesome with the festival of the hunt and the huge blimps powered by the souls of another planet's dead

[Chrysostom]

Icicle Village? I think thats what its called.

That's the one.

I reckon I'd go with Lindblum as the most desirable place to live. I'd live in the area with the pub where Zidane bumps into Freya, or the cul-de-sac area with the weapon/synthesizer place. Get me a job as an airship engineer up at the palace and eat Lindblum pickles all day, compete in the Hunt. It'd be sweeeeet...

So after I finish FFI, FFXII and Dragon Quest, I can't decide which FF to do next - I have IX which I've attempted twice as far as that crystal dimension but never finished, X which I played once as far as the Calm Lands, and then II, IV, V, and VI which I got for Xmas and haven't ever played. I have a deep desire to play IX again as I really love that game, but then I also want to play through IV, V or VI which I'm told have excellent character driven storylines. Somebody tell which to play.

[fingers mccoy]

well idk man ix is my favourite of all time

it doesnt really matter what you do first, but i think ix is even nicer if you've played the other ffs from that earlier timeline so maybe do iv first, idk

in fact yeah iv is a hilarious game definitely blast through that, just make sure you get a good version, maybe a rom of the jap version with a good third party translation, because you dont wanna get the 'easytype' version or any of that ****

vi is great too but it's a little more serious, but for a couple of set-pieces and an awesome recurring boss

i think iv would be an enjoyable change from xii, its tone is very different.

[Anglachel]

ii, iv, v, and vi on gba?

do v or ii

[fatbandit]

As odd as it seems, Midgar seems like it could be a cool place to be. If you have a few Gil and can live up on the plate.

And Treno in IX. I liked that place.

[-Listy-]

wutai

[Chrysostom]

ii, iv, v, and vi on gba?

do v or ii

Nah, all my FFs from I-VI are the PS compilation versions.

[Anglachel]

k then

v or ii

[TBrown87]

I played IX back when it first came out so I decided to play it again for nostalgias sake. Vivi is the best character of anything ever. Except maybe Freya. And I never realized what a fairy Kuja is.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Play II. The leveling system is different, but I love that game. World map music is so ridiculously good.

[Jim]

clearly the thunder plains would be an ideal living location

okay treno ftw. it would suck if you wanted a tan though

[MAthiAS]

Daguerro was pretty ballin too. Costa Del Sol nice place to live, also Mideel pre-destruction, and Deling City is ok I suppose.

[Happy]

clearly the thunder plains would be an ideal living location

okay treno ftw. it would suck if you wanted a tan though

I don't think Tans even exist in FF, I mean remember when Hojo goes to Costa Del Sol, he still comes back as pale as he left.

[Liberi Fatali]

okay treno ftw. it would suck if you wanted a tan though
If you're thinking about living in a Final Fantasy location, chances are you are too nerdy to ever get a tan anyway. :p

I would like Daguerreo from FFIX, but then again its a library so I don't get where I would sleep etc. I'd probably end up going for Esto Gaza though, love that music and beautiful location.

Either that or Fisherman's Horizon from Final Fantasy VIII, though Winhill is tempting as well.

[Jim]

other than the extreme cold, esto gaza would be sick. i'd be happy to hear that music ad nauseum too

[doki]

gold saucer anyone?
but ye, fisherman horizon is a perfect place.

I miss walking/flying around the world map, newer FF doesn't have this.

[fatbandit]

Newer FFs don't need the world map, as they don't have the limitations that old systems imposed. But I do miss it.

[spitfirejunky]

On the contrary I think with the technology they have now they can make flying and world maps a ton more dynamic.

No more dinky icons on scaled down maps, just give us a full world and a fast airship. :D

[huxtaposition]

was it toroia in final fantasy 4 that was mostly women? that's where i'd wanna live woo woo

[Chrysostom]

in fact yeah iv is a hilarious game definitely blast through that

i think iv would be an enjoyable change from xii, its tone is very different.

do v or ii

Play II. The leveling system is different, but I love that game. World map music is so ridiculously good.

So that's two votes for II, one for IV and one for V. Looks like it's FFII next. Thanks gice.

[Anglachel]

was it toroia in final fantasy 4 that was mostly women? that's where i'd wanna live woo woo
o yeah this

troia or figaro

[fatbandit]

On the contrary I think with the technology they have now they can make flying and world maps a ton more dynamic.

No more dinky icons on scaled down maps, just give us a full world and a fast airship. :D
Point taken. Just saying that's why the world maps existed in the first place :)

Flying about is good though. I missed it in XII. Walking everywhere is sucky.

[doki]

I remember playing FF X for the first time and wondering when the hell am I gonna come out to the world map.

[huxtaposition]

the idea of no world map and the world and towns being in actual size is cool and all but they need to implement an airship that you control into this 'cause that's hella fun

[Jamais_Vu]

Ok, I really want to pick a FF game that I haven't played in a long time, but I'm not sure which one. I can go with FFVII which has a messed up part on the first disc when you first meet Aeris in the flower bed. Sometimes it freezes when it goes to the scene afterwards, but I am able to get passed it. Then there is FFVIII which sometimes freezes on the second disc. I've beaten FFX about 4 times, but I still enjoy it a lot, and finally there is FFXII which took me 66 hours to beat. I think I might wanna go old school.

It's either FF or going on round 3 of MGS4.

[MAthiAS]

Do both IMO. This summer I'd like to play through VIII and IX and possibly VII too.

[Liberi Fatali]

I've got a month off from work due to surgery in Feb, and no uni either. I'm hoping to get through a couple FF's in my time off, hopefully give FFXII a decent play through and second chance. Then probably either IX or VIII.

[Happy]

FFXII you could easily play through properly in a month.

[Bread and Faxes]

If Fishermans Horizon existed, I would move there right away.

me too. It's beautiful.

[huxtaposition]

did everyone find the scene in FF7 when you go back to nibelheim after getting cloud back and see the scene of him and zach escaping from soldiers and zach putting him into that mako capsule to recover? so many people miss this and it ties all the loose ends.

[Jamais_Vu]

Yup, I've seen it before. Has anyone gone on a date with Barret at the Gold Saucer instead of Tifa or Aeris?

[huxtaposition]

haha i go on a date with barret every night in my dreams

[Chrysostom]

FFXII you could easily play through properly in a month.

Only if you ignore all the optional stuff. I'm doing as much as I can this first run through and I'm up to 206 hours. Owned it since September last year so that's way more than a month.

[spitfirejunky]

Yup, I've seen it before. Has anyone gone on a date with Barret at the Gold Saucer instead of Tifa or Aeris?

There's a guide somewhere on the internet to do this. I did it for kicks on one of my playthroughs.

did everyone find the scene in FF7 when you go back to nibelheim after getting cloud back and see the scene of him and zach escaping from soldiers and zach putting him into that mako capsule to recover? so many people miss this and it ties all the loose ends.

Yep, usually clear that when getting Tifa's stuff.

[spitfirejunky]

Point taken. Just saying that's why the world maps existed in the first place :)

Flying about is good though. I missed it in XII. Walking everywhere is sucky.

Agreed.

[Mister_Che]

did everyone find the scene in FF7 when you go back to nibelheim after getting cloud back and see the scene of him and zach escaping from soldiers and zach putting him into that mako capsule to recover? so many people miss this and it ties all the loose ends.

wat

I don't eve remember this being missable.

[IgniteYourAvail]

It's completely optional. You have to go back down to where you found Vincent, I believe, so it's not part of the story line. I missed it the first time I played it.

[The Transporter]

latest FFXIII trailer looks pretty awesome. still don't like that they're going all "futuristic" though.

needs to go back to steam punk ala FFVI

[spitfirejunky]

wat

I don't eve remember this being missable.

If you go to the plant a second time there's a new flashback. (At least I'm pretty sure.)

[Anglachel]

latest FFXIII trailer looks pretty awesome. still don't like that they're going all "futuristic" though.

needs to go back to steam punk ala FFVI
no kidding

and if they have to include another race do dwarves
there were like 5 in v and none after (that i remember/know of)

because dwarves are still way more awesome than tall fluffy humanoid bunnies

[doki]

that trailer remind me of the matrix

[fingers mccoy]

no kidding

and if they have to include another race do dwarves
there were like 5 in v and none after (that i remember/know of)

because dwarves are still way more awesome than tall fluffy humanoid bunnies

ix has dwarves

[Chrysostom]

ix has dwarves

What?

[Jamais_Vu]

They need to start coming up with badass main characters because the guy from FFXII didn't have much of a story and Tidus in FFX just looked stupid, even though his final limit break was pretty cool. This chick in FFXIII looks pretty badass.

[fingers mccoy]

What?

rally-ho!

[IgniteYourAvail]

They need to start coming up with badass main characters because the guy from FFXII didn't have much of a story and Tidus in FFX just looked stupid, even though his final limit break was pretty cool.

The main character in the one coming up has facial fair

A Square first

Oh, and rumor has it that Basch was supposed to be the main character of FFXII (most people think of him as it anyways), but added Vaan last minute because of Japanese interest or something.

[Chrysostom]

rally-ho!

Ha ha ha! I love how that was all you needed to say for me to realize how dense I was being.

Oh, and rumor has it that Basch was supposed to be the main character of FFXII (most people think of him as it anyways), but added Vaan last minute because of Japanese interest or something.

Oh really? I never considered Basch the main character - that was either Vaan or Ashe for me, and mostly Vaan. What do you mean by the bit in bold, exactly?

[Anglachel]

rally-ho!
>.<

[Iscariot]

I've been playing FFVII on an emulator lately. I forgot how good this game is.

I'm still on disc 1 but I just got the Tiny Bronco, I have Great Gospel though Aeris still needs to move up to her level 3 limits so I can teach it to her, I have Cosmo Memory but Red needs his last level 3 limit first, and I'm working on getting Omnislash right now.

Also, the bulk of my party is close to level 50.

Maybe I'm weird but I love being ridiculously overpowered in these games. Granted it takes a lot of time to get over-leveled but once you start cruising ahead in the story it's totally worth it (except in FFVIII where it doesn't work because of the monster level balance :mad: ).

Plus the materia levels you gain are sweet. I already have bolt 3, ice 3, and fire 3, I almost have life 2, I'm about to get quake 3, etc..

[fingers mccoy]

I've been playing FFVII on an emulator lately. I forgot how good this game is.

I'm still on disc 1 but I just got the Tiny Bronco, I have Great Gospel though Aeris still needs to move up to her level 3 limits so I can teach it to her, I have Cosmo Memory but Red needs his last level 3 limit first, and I'm working on getting Omnislash right now.

Also, the bulk of my party is close to level 50.

Maybe I'm weird but I love being ridiculously overpowered in these games. Granted it takes a lot of time to get over-leveled but once you start cruising ahead in the story it's totally worth it (except in FFVIII where it doesn't work because of the monster level balance :mad: ).

Plus the materia levels you gain are sweet. I already have bolt 3, ice 3, and fire 3, I almost have life 2, I'm about to get quake 3, etc..

the best way of being overpowered in viii is avoiding levelling up but stockpiling good magic and levelling up your gfs early on, which can be achieved in a number of ways. doing that means that your stats are boosted extremely high, but your enemies are only matched according to your level, so you can trash the **** out of them.

also, if you get all the gf 'bonus' abilities, then when you do level up you have the opportunity to like double your innate stats

i cannot stress enough how much you can own the **** out of viii if you don't level up. it becomes hilarious.

[Iscariot]

That was always a really tough concept for me - being strong and not leveling up. Like, I totally understand how to pull it off, but fighting battles and everything is so fun that it's almost impossible for me not to binge on levels.

That's part of why it's so easy for me to be completely overpowered in VII is because I love fighting battles. I don't get tired or frustrated with the constant random encounters like some people do. I could honestly spend a week in the same location just fighting monsters.

[The Transporter]

The main character in the one coming up has facial fair

A Square first

Oh, and rumor has it that Basch was supposed to be the main character of FFXII (most people think of him as it anyways), but added Vaan last minute because of Japanese interest or something.
the main character in FFXIII is a woman

[IgniteYourAvail]

Oh really? I never considered Basch the main character - that was either Vaan or Ashe for me, and mostly Vaan. What do you mean by the bit in bold, exactly?

Japanese people love feminite girly boy main characters.

How can you consider Vaan the main character? He had the least story out of all the characters.

[IgniteYourAvail]

the main character in FFXIII is a woman

That pink haired chick is the main character? oh.

[FakePlasticTrees]

I thought Vaan was a total douche and found him to be worse than Tidus.


Then again, i haven't played the game in a long, long time, so I could be mistaken.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Not only was he a douche, he had no substance and no story.

I wouldn't have had him in my main party, but I always have to have the main character in there. Basch was the main dude.

[Mister_Che]

I thought Vaan was a total douche and found him to be worse than Tidus.

Vaan had the better voice actor, though. :/

[IgniteYourAvail]

No way man, the guy who voiced Tidus also voiced Ratchet.

[The Transporter]

That pink haired chick is the main character? oh.
I don't know that her hair is pink...

http://fc85.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/111/8/e/FFXIII___Lightning_Wallpaper_by_Ichizokuda.jpg

[Chrysostom]

Japanese people love feminite girly boy main characters.

Ah yes, of course. How could I forget that. That explains Vaan quite nicely.

How can you consider Vaan the main character? He had the least story out of all the characters.

I have a mental thing wherein I regard whichever character you start an FF with as being the main character, which is reinforced if it's an FF where only the one character shows up to represent the entire party when you wander around towns, as most of the games have been.

the best way of being overpowered in viii is...levelling up your gfs early on, which can be achieved in a number of ways

How do you do that without levelling up?

I'd love to know, because I've finally reached the point where I find levelling up to be a collosal chore. They really need to make an FF where levelling happens a lot quicker, or through some other means than simply doing a buttload of fighting. Maybe they should make an FF where you level up a certain amount after beating bosses, completing sidequests, and completing mini-quests which are still part of the main flow of the story. In other words I advocate a system like Metal Gear Solid, where Snakes rubs his face after defeating a boss and his health bar increases. Something like that.

Anyway, fingers, tell me how to pump up my GFs without the endless fighting...

I wouldn't have had him in my main party, but I always have to have the main character in there.

Ah, I always feel obliged to do that too. I always try to identify the characters who will have most to do with the main story and feel compelled to use them. Well, most of the time - I'll also throw a Vincent, an Irvine, or an Amarant in there too if I happen to like the character better than the others.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I have a mental thing wherein I regard whichever character you start an FF with as being the main character, which is reinforced if it's an FF where only the one character shows up to represent the entire party when you wander around towns, as most of the games have been.

Yeah me too. Sorry, I worded that a little odd. He's definitely the main character of the GAME, but not the STORY. There really is no main character per se, It's just kind of one broad issue. I'd say the story mainly revolves around Basch and Ashe the most though.

[Mister_Che]

I have a mental thing wherein I regard whichever character you start an FF with as being the main character, which is reinforced if it's an FF where only the one character shows up to represent the entire party when you wander around towns, as most of the games have been.

It's funny you say that. I don't remember where I read it, but there was some quote somewhere explaining how Vaan was the party bitch and nothing more. Basch and Ashe would say what needed to happen next, Balthier would come up with a plan to get to their location, Fran would say something wise here and there, and Vaan would be the one to be sent out to town to pick up whatever supplies they needed before heading out. Penelo was even less useful than Vaan.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I don't know that her hair is pink...

http://fc85.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/111/8/e/FFXIII___Lightning_Wallpaper_by_Ichizokuda.jpg

Lookin pretty pink to me, bro.

[The Transporter]

every time i hear "Basch" i think of man balls

[The Transporter]

Lookin pretty pink to me, bro.
http://www.final-fantasy-xiii.org/screenshots/lightning.jpg
looks brown with maybe some reddish highlights to me. maybe my monitor colors are weird tho

[Mister_Che]

Looks pink, and always looked pink to me. Her name is Lightning, or something.

[IgniteYourAvail]

The other girl has definite Red hair, this is pink.

[Anglachel]

not a very interesting looking character

[Chrysostom]

Yeah me too. Sorry, I worded that a little odd. He's definitely the main character of the GAME, but not the STORY. There really is no main character per se, It's just kind of one broad issue. I'd say the story mainly revolves around Basch and Ashe the most though.

Ah, yes I see what you did there, in the bit in bold. I think perhaps I would agree.

And also, holy Final Fantasy revelation Batman! That's been the problem with FFX and XII - there hasn't been one character who you feel is pushing the story forward, and that's why the last few games haven't been anywhere near as good as FFIV-IX. You really need character driven FFs, otherwise they suck.

It's funny you say that. I don't remember where I read it, but there was some quote somewhere explaining how Vaan was the party bitch and nothing more. Basch and Ashe would say what needed to happen next, Balthier would come up with a plan to get to their location, Fran would say something wise here and there, and Vaan would be the one to be sent out to town to pick up whatever supplies they needed before heading out. Penelo was even less useful than Vaan.

Holy second FF revelation Batman! My God Che, you're dead right. I never noticed before, but that's how basically all the cut scenes have gone in FFXII. And what you say feeds in to what I said above - I felt right from the start of FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX that Cloud, Squall and Zidane respectively were very definitely the party leaders, the guys pushing the main story along (though usually, I admit, alongside their respective love interests). This tendency to have all characters "pitch in" equally a la X and XII, ruins things IMO.

[IgniteYourAvail]

It looks like they're moving away from the Main Character thing, perhaps? XIII looks, from the few trailers, to be similar to XII in which the main characters all have a beef against one thing, and fight it without much individual character development (Kind of silly to make an assumption on such little content, but still). I can't say I agree with it at all, but I'll buy it regardless.

[The Transporter]

http://www.solarnavigator.net/music/music_images/pink_pink_hair.jpg

[Chrysostom]

It looks like they're moving away from the Main Character thing, perhaps? XIII looks, from the few trailers, to be similar to XII in which the main characters all have a beef against one thing, and fight it without much individual character development (Kind of silly to make an assumption on such little content, but still). I can't say I agree with it at all, but I'll buy it regardless.

I agree. But its an FF so I can't not buy it. Now all I need is a PS3.

[Mister_Che]

Or a 360, since it's going to be available on it.

Unless you plan on getting Versus XIII as well.

[IgniteYourAvail]

I have yet to buy a Final Fantasy spinoff game (Advent Children doesn't count) and I'm assuming that's what Versus is going to be. It doesn't look that great anyways.

[Mr. Ron]

so am I the only one that thought FF8 was a good game?

[Mister_Che]

No, it's my favorite FF. I'm actually playing through the game right now, slowly but surely.

[Mr. Ron]

I thought the junctioning system was a pretty good idea.

[Mister_Che]

Definitely. You'll never need to heal so long as 100 Drain is junctioned to ST-ATK. Plus, it's easy to have high stats provided you're willing to Draw magic like crazy.

[IgniteYourAvail]

FF8 was good, but it was too easy. The EXP system was different in that it was a set amount to each level, so, it took maybe a few hours of grinding to get to level 100 for all characters. Still really good though.

[Jamais_Vu]

I thought FF8 was a good game but I didn't like the EXP system they had. I thought FFX did a good job with the sphere grid.

[RetiredAt21]

The Sphere Grid was the best thing to happen to Final Fantasy in awhile.

[spitfirejunky]

Yeah, sphere grid was more balanced and had a lot more longevity.

I don't consider 8 to be easier than 7 or 9 though.

[IgniteYourAvail]

The international version sphere grid was awesome, too. I kinda like that you no longer had "levels" per se.

[Jamais_Vu]

The Sphere Grid was great because in the long run you sort of got to choose where you wanted to go with each character. I remember having most of the stronger characters going into Aurons area since he had a **** load of HP and strength bonuses.

8 is still the hardest one that I've played, although 12 had its moments.

[Chrysostom]

Or a 360, since it's going to be available on it.

Unless you plan on getting Versus XIII as well.

I was thinking PS3 on the basis that I'm a shameless Sony fanboy. But yeah, I'll get Versus XIII - I was pleasantly surprised by Dirge of Cerberus, so I'll risk it.

[Mr. Ron]

I hated pretty much everything about FF10 save a few things.


9 is definitely in my top three of favorite FF's.

[Anglachel]

this talk of main characters makes me think of vi

[fatbandit]

I think in VI, Terra was the 'main character', but everyone I talk to had their own 'main' character. Locke seems to come up a lot, and it kind of felt like Edgar for me.

Probably depends who is in your party a lot of the time.

[huxtaposition]

i remember my brother had put 200+ hours into FFX and mastered everybody's boards with each character and just did ungodly amounts of damage to everything. it was impressive.

i hate the FFVI main character debates. it's terra.

8's one of my favorites. triple triad is the best.

[IgniteYourAvail]

i remember my brother had put 200+ hours into FFX and mastered everybody's boards with each character and just did ungodly amounts of damage to everything. it was impressive.

I started to do that, but got bored a little bit after everyone did 99999 damage. I could smoke everything except the later Dark Aeons and Penance and ****.

[fatbandit]

I Yojimbo'd a couple of Dark Aeons, but I don't think you get the Ribbons doing it that way.

And the rewards didn't really seem worth it.

[IgniteYourAvail]

They're not, at all. That's why I quit halfway through =P

I tried to go through the whole thing without Zanmato'ing anyone. I always felt that was like cheating.

[Happy]

It is, but its so annoying to fight them any other way.

[fatbandit]

I kind of disliked how every boss fight was just 'charge up all the Aeons' overdrives, and unleash them ASAP' too. But that's a minor niggle.

[Happy]

Yeah and once your party's Aeons were finished you could swap members. wtf.

[Jamais_Vu]

Unleashing Bahumuts limit break and doing 99,999 damage in FFX gets me aroused.

[Happy]

That one that Seymour had at the Blitzball game was such a let down when you obtained it.

[Jamais_Vu]

I never got Aenema. I was interested in getting him to just see what he was like. I've never been able to win that Blitzball tournament to see what the next cutscene is like. I was bad at Blitzball :(

[Happy]

I think everyone was. The team you start with is awful and no-one will transfer to it.

[IgniteYourAvail]

Blitzball was easy once you got Jecht Shot