The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[Mister_Che]

To anyone curious about FFXI... Levels 1-10 will undoubtably suck. Stick with it and get to a fair level before judging the game. Don't be like that guy on the Final Fantasy awards website.

For a White Mage maybe, but my experience with a Monk, Warrior, Ranger, and Beastmaster, its actually fun. Once you start leveling from 20-30, then the fun begins.

[Mister_Che]

Otherside: thanks for all the info. Really helps. One last question. Can you interact and quest with anyone who plays the game, or just people on your server?

Only the ones on your server, keep in mind, some servers have about 2500 people. Well mine at least (Siren)

[Blongdoggle65]

Chrono Trigger > FF8 > FF Tactics/Tactics advance > FF7 > FF9 > FF10

[Otherside]

Otherside: thanks for all the info. Really helps. One last question. Can you interact and quest with anyone who plays the game, or just people on your server?

I've been thinking about getting FFXI, but I don't think my parents would approve.

Only on your server. But, if you add someone to your friends list on one server, and change to another(your character will loose all job levesl), they will still be on your friends list and you can still send them messeges.

[red barchetta]

Chrono Trigger > FF8 > FF Tactics/Tactics advance > FF7 > FF9 > FF10
and FF6 > all of those ;)

[DeusExMachina]

FF6 > Chrono Trigger > FF4 > Chrono Cross > FF9 > FF7 > FFT > FFX > FF8.

That's just a brief list, I'm not positive if I agree with all of it just yet, but it seems to get the general gist of it. Haven't played FFX-2 yet, so can't speak for that. I played FFTA for about 5 minutes, and the story was just painfully stupid, so I didn't bother playing more.

Man, who remembers when FF6 was called FF3 and FF4 was called FF2?

[Digital Boy]

I played FFTA for about 5 minutes, and the story was just painfully stupid, so I didn't bother playing more.

I think Square was trying to piss off us FFT fans by releasing that piece of trash. I hope FF12's Ivalice is the same as the original FFT world.

[FlyingPaul_83]

does FFT have a good story?

[Otherside]

Does anyone happen to have a FFVI emulation link? I've been wanting to play it since alot of people on here rave about it :\

[FlyingPaul_83]

I will upload it for you :thumb:

here we go:

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HWCATLWYVECX3FQOVT3HL3IKL

[DeusExMachina]

I think Square was trying to piss off us FFT fans by releasing that piece of trash. I hope FF12's Ivalice is the same as the original FFT world.
Have you seen the plot synopsis for FFXII? Is it just me, or is that just a moderately altered version of the FFIX story?

To FlyingPaul83, FFT has a pretty awesome story. I thought so, at least. And it has a secret character (won't say who, it's a surprise!) that will make you happy.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Have you seen the plot synopsis for FFXII? Is it just me, or is that just a moderately altered version of the FFIX story?

To FlyingPaul83, FFT has a pretty awesome story. I thought so, at least. And it has a secret character (won't say who, it's a surprise!) that will make you happy.


I know it's cloud. What is the story synopsis for FF XII

[DeusExMachina]

A bunch of nations are at war. Some street urchin thief kid's city is attacked by the evil empire, so he tries to steal some stuff from said empire when they're distracted by war. There he joins some resistance movement which includes the lost princess of the empire and some other people. It's like a cross between FFIX and Star Wars. I think so, at least.

[FlyingPaul_83]

sounds exactly like IX

[Otherside]

I will upload it for you :thumb:

here we go:

http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HWCATLWYVECX3FQOVT3HL3IKL

Thank you so much.

You ever need anything, just holler.

[MAthiAS]

To FlyingPaul83, FFT has a pretty awesome story. I thought so, at least.
IMO the story is as good or better than VIIs, and I think VII is the best game ever, if that gives you an idea.
sounds exactly like IX
With a hint of VII mixed in. Hopefully it will be more like Tactics story-wise (after all, the world is called Ivalice), with all the plot twists.

[DeusExMachina]

Hopefully XII will also take after Tactics in terms of difficulty. Seriously, FF games are often way too easy. The "hard" FF4 is really really hard, and FFT can be quite hard (until you get TG Cid) but the rest are all fairly easy with a couple difficult bosses.

[MAthiAS]

Tactics' difficulty is very dependant on how much or how little you level. Its much harder compared to other FF games. FFX was a joke in terms of difficulty. I think they should make the hardest boss in the game the final boss, instead of making an optional one. Or at least make them comparable.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I agree. I think the final boss should be the hardest battle in the whole game. It should be as hard, or harder than the secret boss. It should be the toughtest thing you've ever faced.

[DeusExMachina]

I'm not sure about toughest. Like, on the one hand, I agree, I want a real challenge for the final boss. But on the other hand, I can understand how some gamers would want to just see how it all ends when they reach the finish, and not have to tear their hair out being frustrated by the final boss for weeks before getting to see how the game ends.

Although regardless of which side you take, the fact that it was impossible to lose to the final boss in FFX pissed me off.

Also, with Tactics, enemies level up with you. Bosses are at a set level, but enemies grow in power as you do. So experience hunting only does so much good.

[Digital Boy]

Elmdor, Celia, and Lede are unnecessarily hard the second time you fight them in FFT. I'm trying to beat the game using no special characters like Orlandu or Beowulf and I'm stuck on this battle.

[red barchetta]

A bunch of nations are at war. Some street urchin thief kid's city is attacked by the evil empire, so he tries to steal some stuff from said empire when they're distracted by war. There he joins some resistance movement which includes the lost princess of the empire and some other people. It's like a cross between FFIX and Star Wars. I think so, at least.
yeah, i said something about it being similar to star wars in the previous pages of this thread.

is FF12 going to have a world map? cos if it doesn't :angry: :angry:

[DeusExMachina]

Elmdor, Celia, and Lede are unnecessarily hard the second time you fight them in FFT. I'm trying to beat the game using no special characters like Orlandu or Beowulf and I'm stuck on this battle.
Without special characters, that game is absurdly hard. You either need to be really really good, or have really really powerful cusom characters, or use special characters.

Are you using no special characters, are just not using the powerful ones? Like, are you using nothing but custom characters, or are you using people like the black mage and white mage brother/sister team (forget their name) but not godlike characters like Orlandu?

yeah, i said something about it being similar to star wars in the previous pages of this thread.

is FF12 going to have a world map? cos if it doesn't :angry: :angry:
I really agree. I forgot how awesome a world map was. I've been playing FFX quite a bit lately, trying to get all the arena bosses and whatnot, but last night I decided to go old school and start playing FFIV again. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic, but games just aren't the same. In some ways its good, in some ways its bad. One thing that pisses me off though, is how ridiculously high stats can go these days. Dealing 99,999 damage? It's just a humongous number. When I first played FFIV, after beating FFVI, I remember being pissed off that you started with 200 HP. It seemed like too big of a number for starting. And then in games like FFX you start with around 600, and can get well over 10,000 HP. That's party of why I liked Kingdom Hearts so much; the stat changes were gradual and small. Start the game with about 18 HP, at level 100 you have less than 100 HP. It's a lot more believable that way.

[MAthiAS]

Are you using no special characters, are just not using the powerful ones? Like, are you using nothing but custom characters, or are you using people like the black mage and white mage brother/sister team (forget their name) but not godlike characters like Orlandu?
Malak and Rafa sucked anyway... I'd rather use generic characters. In that game there's really three options - Lancers and ninjas, calculators, or special characters - that are really effective.

Has anyone managed to steal the Barette and Cacusha from Celia and Lede the first time? Or the set of Genji armor from Elmdor? I got the Barette, couldn't get the Cacusha, and now am stuck at the the battle with Elmdor with Genji. Mind you this is like my 5th play through the game.

is FF12 going to have a world map? cos if it doesn't
I know, the world map was awesome. So much freedom and exploration.

One thing that pisses me off though, is how ridiculously high stats can go these days. Dealing 99,999 damage? It's just a humongous number.
Well, its all relative to the enemies, so I really don't care that much. It is getting a bit ridiculous with FFX though. I guess I agree though, smaller numbers are better. Yet another thing Tactics had :)

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I know, the world map was awesome. So much freedom and exploration.


Not to mention: XTREME AIRSHIP FLYING!

Ragnarok was a cool airship to mess around with, especially chasing trains.

FF8 world map is probably my favourite

[FlyingPaul_83]

Not to mention: XTREME AIRSHIP FLYING!

Ragnarok was a cool airship to mess around with, especially chasing trains.

FF8 world map is probably my favourite


oh yeah. I liked how it had Hell and heaven islands.except malboros a like certain death in that game. In the others, if you had ribbon, you're fine, but in VIII, if you encounter one you're dead. It was hell trying to get malboro tentacles for doom train.

[god.bless.the.sos]

My Favourite Final Fantasy was FF tactics because it had a really cool storyline and the music was super dramatic and awesome.

[DeusExMachina]

Does anyone else think Square should make a sequel to FFVI? The ending is so open. Kind of like the end of FFVII; the evil has been defeated, but the world is in no way a particularly happy place. I could definitely see another Gestahl or Kefka-esque character coming in to try and sieze power again.

[Mister_Che]

oh yeah. I liked how it had Hell and heaven islands.except malboros a like certain death in that game. In the others, if you had ribbon, you're fine, but in VIII, if you encounter one you're dead. It was hell trying to get malboro tentacles for doom train.

I'd mug and run, but it was a major pain...

[Digital Boy]

Without special characters, that game is absurdly hard. You either need to be really really good, or have really really powerful cusom characters, or use special characters.

Are you using no special characters, are just not using the powerful ones? Like, are you using nothing but custom characters, or are you using people like the black mage and white mage brother/sister team (forget their name) but not godlike characters like Orlandu?


No special characters at all, except Ramza of course. My party consists of:

Squire (Ramza): Guts, Item, Auto-Potion, Two Swords, Move+2. 97 brave, 70 faith.
Ninja: Throw, Item, Auto-Potion, Equip Sword, Move+2. 97 brave, 52 faith
Samurai: Draw Out, Item, Auto-Potion, Two Swords, Move+2. 97 Brave, 65 faith
Thief: Steal, Throw, Auto-Potion, Two Swords, Move+2. 97 Brave, 55 faith
Chemist: Item, White Magic, Auto-Potion, Equip Armor, Move+2. 97 brave, 42 faith

[red barchetta]

Does anyone else think Square should make a sequel to FFVI? The ending is so open. Kind of like the end of FFVII; the evil has been defeated, but the world is in no way a particularly happy place. I could definitely see another Gestahl or Kefka-esque character coming in to try and sieze power again.
but the power of magic is gone forever in the end, which was the source of evil in FF6. how can anyone even try to rule the world with the macho Sabin in the way :p

but i suppose, the world is in ruins (it doesn't really show in the ending, where the airship is flying over green land).

also, i agree with what you said about the 99,999 damage in FFX. it is too high. also, i found the sidequests in FFX extremely time-consuming and boring. they put a lot of unneccesary things in FFX... a sequal, for example :D


OMG 5 more posts for my 1000th post :eek:

[Lionheart1827]

Does anyone else think Square should make a sequel to FFVI? The ending is so open. Kind of like the end of FFVII; the evil has been defeated, but the world is in no way a particularly happy place. I could definitely see another Gestahl or Kefka-esque character coming in to try and sieze power again.

It would be cool to have a sequel, but, I kinda don't want a sequel, it would tarnish the original, just as X-2 did. FFVI holds a special place in my heart(even though that kinda sounds gay) and I wouldn't want to see Square, especially the way they've been making games lately, screw up a sequel to 6.

Cyan, Edgar, Sabin, and Setzer pwn.

best RPG ever made. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

also, i agree with what you said about the 99,999 damage in FFX. it is too high. also, i found the sidequests in FFX extremely time-consuming and boring. they put a lot of unneccesary things in FFX... a sequal, for example :D
Heh, nicely put. FFX just sucked in general. It took a ton of time to get the best weapons for everyone, but they were really pointless, because all you needed to do to win was get Magus Sisters or Anima, or really just have a brain.

[FlyingPaul_83]

It was entertaining though. I hope FF XII makes up for FFX and FFX-2. Those games just didn't seem like FF at all. Sure it had a good battle system, but it was very easy. I hope XII is very fu*cking hard. I want a challenge. I want to have a tough time getting to the end, and being satisfied when I beat a Tough final boss, and seeing an incredible ending.

[Liberi Fatali]

It was entertaining though. I hope FF XII makes up for FFX and FFX-2. Those games just didn't seem like FF at all. Sure it had a good battle system, but it was very easy. I hope XII is very fu*cking hard. I want a challenge. I want to have a tough time getting to the end, and being satisfied when I beat a Tough final boss, and seeing an incredible ending.
I hope you're not saying FFX was easy..... The Dark Aeons were bloody hard. With some of them the only way I defeated them was the cheap way with Yojimbo.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I hope you're not saying FFX was easy..... The Dark Aeons were bloody hard. With some of them the only way I defeated them was the cheap way with Yojimbo.

For the 102324th time in this thread ill say it.

Penance = Hardest Boss Ever

[red barchetta]

i HATED the way Braska's final aeon seemed like a little insect compared to the dark aeons, penance, and the monster arena bosses. it's supposed to be the FINAL battle. seriously, if a BOMB king is better than the final aeon, surely that long pilgrimage wasn't necessary to beat sin?

and it was unnecessary that Square made it impossible for you to die against yu yevon (unless you stupidly petrify yourself).

and what was up with Omega in FFX!? he was unbelievably weak.

[Happy]

That annoyed me too, like after fighting giant monsters like Sin, the final challenge is a spider.

[Lord Abortion]

oh yeah. I liked how it had Hell and heaven islands.except malboros a like certain death in that game. In the others, if you had ribbon, you're fine, but in VIII, if you encounter one you're dead. It was hell trying to get malboro tentacles for doom train.
it made it incredibly easy to get to level 100

just escape unless odin came

[Dead Star]

I actually enjoyed FFX, although it was piss-easy.

And X-2 sucks.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

I don't know why you all consider Yu Yevon the final boss of FFX. While he's not the last boss you fight, Jecht really is the boss of the game, and he is not an easy fight. You just have to fight Yu Yevon to finish the story and give closure.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I hope you're not saying FFX was easy..... The Dark Aeons were bloody hard. With some of them the only way I defeated them was the cheap way with Yojimbo.


I don't know what you're talking about.

Is this in FF X international?

To yourmombitch: Jecht was actually pretty tough, butit wasn't as hard as the final bosses in IX, VIII, and VII.

[Divine Drummer]

[QUOTE=FlyingPaul_83]I don't know what you're talking about.

Is this in FF X international?


Dark Aeons are bloody hard almost impossible to beat (well the more powerfull ones are) bosses that you can find near the end of the game, i think after you've beat yunaleska. And then theres the thing after you beat all of them, cant remember its name, but you have to pretty much max out your stats and have around 70,000 HP

[red barchetta]

it made it incredibly easy to get to level 100

just escape unless odin came
even though getting to lvl99 in FF8 was a bad idea, since it just made the enemies stronger. the enemies get a lot of stat gains when they level up, where as your characters only get a few.

[red barchetta]

I don't know why you all consider Yu Yevon the final boss of FFX. While he's not the last boss you fight, Jecht really is the boss of the game, and he is not an easy fight. You just have to fight Yu Yevon to finish the story and give closure.
but look at it this way: Jecht's final form has around 160,000hp, whereas dark anima has around 7-8 million. and one of anima's attack can kill a character instantly with one shot. see the difference? and penance, nemesis, and the other strong dark aeons (bahamut, magus sisters, YOJIMBO) were just as good or even better.

i prefer it when the last boss is THE ultimate boss, like in ff4. zeromus was one tough bitch

[FlyingPaul_83]

but look at it this way: Jecht's final form has around 160,000hp, whereas dark anima has around 7-8 million. and one of anima's attack can kill a character instantly with one shot. see the difference? and penance, nemesis, and the other strong dark aeons (bahamut, magus sisters, YOJIMBO) were just as good or even better.

i prefer it when the last boss is THE ultimate boss, like in ff4. zeromus was one tough bitch


where do you fight the dark aeons?

[red barchetta]

where do you fight the dark aeons?
you need to have the International version of FFX. after you get full control of the airship, you go to these areas to fight:

Valefor - at the entrance of Besaid village

Ifrit - at the ruins of Al bhed home

Ixion - at the thunder plains. talk to the guy near a pillar.

Shiva - at makalania temple

Bahamut - where you fought yunalesca

Yojimbo - after you get him, go back to the entrance of the cave without using the teleporter.

Anima - at Mt Gagazet, redo the puzzle where you aim for the middle with Wakka's blitzball, and go back to the entrance of the cave

Magus Sisters - at the entrance of mushroom rock

i thnk thats all of them. You have to have a weapon that can do over 9999 damage, over 9999 hp and the ability 'quick hit' to even stand a chance.

[Mister_Che]

International isnt available in the states, or is it?

[3rdplanet]

dark aeons = no fun

[red barchetta]

dark aeons = no fun
i know. you need to gain ridiculous amounts of AP, and get ridiculous amount of items and money to get the items to customize your weapon.



playing blitzball is much more fun :)

[Your Mom, B*tch]

but look at it this way: Jecht's final form has around 160,000hp, whereas dark anima has around 7-8 million. and one of anima's attack can kill a character instantly with one shot. see the difference? and penance, nemesis, and the other strong dark aeons (bahamut, magus sisters, YOJIMBO) were just as good or even better.

i prefer it when the last boss is THE ultimate boss, like in ff4. zeromus was one tough bitch

Well I never said that there wasn't a tougher boss than Jecht. I was just pointing out that the final battle really isn't Yu Yevon, it's Jecht, and he is not easy.

Yeah, Zeromus is tough as hell. Matter of fact every time I fight him I have to kill off 1 character just so my cures will heal enough for the other characters. Bahamut was tougher though just due to the fact that to survive his special attack you need like 5000 hp. The thing that I like most about the Zermous fight is how far you have to run without saving just to get to him. You have to go through like 4 floors of nothing but boss fights just to get to him. Just the red dragon fights are tougher than most bosses in the other FF games.

FF4 really was probably the best Final Fantasy. Great story, and every area was tough as hell. You die lots if you're not a smart player.

[MAthiAS]

Maybe I'll get it this summer then.

[Otherside]

I'm currently in love with FFVI. It's so great.

[shadow_stalker]

I've only played on 7 and 8...i think

But they rock!

[FlyingPaul_83]

International isnt available in the states, or is it?


yeah is it? Cause I want to fight the dark aeons

[MAthiAS]

I don't.

[red barchetta]

Well I never said that there wasn't a tougher boss than Jecht. I was just pointing out that the final battle really isn't Yu Yevon, it's Jecht, and he is not easy.

Yeah, Zeromus is tough as hell. Matter of fact every time I fight him I have to kill off 1 character just so my cures will heal enough for the other characters. Bahamut was tougher though just due to the fact that to survive his special attack you need like 5000 hp. The thing that I like most about the Zermous fight is how far you have to run without saving just to get to him. You have to go through like 4 floors of nothing but boss fights just to get to him. Just the red dragon fights are tougher than most bosses in the other FF games.

FF4 really was probably the best Final Fantasy. Great story, and every area was tough as hell. You die lots if you're not a smart player.
oh right then. sorry for the misunderstanding.


i really think that Seymour should be the last boss for FFX, since he's the one with the most evil mind


and yeah, i killed a chracter in FF4 too (always edge :p )to get more recovery. it was a very hard game.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I don't.


I want o a challenge, I haven't been challenged in a while.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

dark aeons = no fun

Beating them = bragging rights

Unless you're a Zanmato cheater

[3rdplanet]

Beating them = bragging rights

Unless you're a Zanmato cheater

/used Yojimbo :upset:

I think I may go back and try and get strong enough to beat them without Yojimbo's Zanmato.

I think my Auron could hit for 30,000 on a regular enemy. Wakka had about 18,000 HP as well.

Could do it.

Did you beat them?

I beat Emerald weapon :cool:

EDIT: I understand I still have a lot more levelling up to do.

[Ricky_Himself]

If you want a good final fantasy type game, play chrono trigger.

[red barchetta]

Beating them = bragging rights

Unless you're a Zanmato cheater
even if you use Zanmato to beat them, it takes a while to get the money to activate it.


what i hate the most about 10 and 10-2: you can't re-name any of your characters apart from tidus.

[Brew]

'sup thread :wave:

I'm angry :angry:

My copy of Final Fantasy VIII is broken :(

I blame my brother.

Whats wrong is...on the first Disc the intro movie freezes, and now I'm somewhere towards the end of Disc 2 where the Galbadian Garden invades Balamb Garden...the video where the dudes on motorbikes jump between the two gardens freezes.

I knew letting the little bastard borrow my games would turn out bad, he has a habbit of leaving discs out of their cases so they get scratched easily...bah. Looks like I'm gonna have to buy myself a new copy of the game sometime soon :(

[red barchetta]

make him buy a new copy. or steal money from him and buy a new copy.


you can probably get one for a low price off e-bay or amazon

[Brew]

Arr, I'm guessing I can pick up a second hand copy of it for around a fiver.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Did you beat them?


I did, but never beat Penance. I probably never will, cant find the urge to play again

[Brew]

I get urges to play FFX, then I remember that its a bit meh...

[ThePinkPanther]

i liked FFX

[red barchetta]

i liked it at first, but once you get to the point where you start doing the side quests, i started HATING it. there were a lot of frustrating parts, especially THE ****ING BIRDS IN THE CHOCOBO MINIGAME.

it didnt make me want to play it through again from the start

[MAthiAS]

I liked it the first hour or so... then I realized the story sucked.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

I liked it the first hour or so... then I realized the story sucked.

I actually liked the story, great idea and well wrote. Its just the way it focused on the crappy characters that annoyed me.

You know, in a Pearl Harbour/Titanic style? Great story, annoying focus

[red barchetta]

what is everyone's ALLTIME favourite final fantasy music?



mine is 'ahead on our way', the main music of final fantasy 5:

http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3LFR9TQFDN4WZ29R9C32PLHZ3D

^heres the piano version of it :thumb:

[Digital Boy]

Aria di Mezzo Carattere from FF6.

[MalcolmYoungRock]

what i hate the most about 10 and 10-2: you can't re-name any of your characters apart from tidus.

Remember, those were the only FF games that actually had voice acting in it, if you pay attention they never actually say Tidus' name, they go "Uggh!" or "Hey!" but with the others it's like "Auron!" or "Wakka!".

[Digital Boy]

I thought the voice acting in FFX was rather annoying.

[Liberi Fatali]

Tidus was done poorly, sounded way too high and child like. Auron on the other hand matched his character perfectly, and showed emotions well.

Some of the scenes between Tidus and Yuna were way too cheesy, and cringe-worthy at times.

[MAthiAS]

I thought the voice acting in FFX was rather annoying.
If I hadn't paid $50 for the game, I'd have broken it in half at the "Ha ha ha" parts.
Tidus was done poorly, sounded way too high and child like. Auron on the other hand matched his character perfectly, and showed emotions well.
Auron's character was what the main dude should've been. I loved Cloud and Squall, the quiet guys you learn about over the course of the game. I didn't really see much character growth in Tidus.

I know Zidane was kind of like Tidus, but there were no voiceovers to ruin him (or Garnet for that matter). I didn't really take IX seriously for some reason, I just enjoyed playing it and it never really bothered me it was a step back from VII and VIII in terms of intensity.

[Liberi Fatali]

Auron's character was what the main dude should've been. I loved Cloud and Squall, the quiet guys you learn about over the course of the game. I didn't really see much character growth in Tidus.
Yeah Tidus' character didn't grow much in comparison with Squall and Cloud, or even Zidane. Although Tidus was like Zidane in the way that he struggled with his own reality, and tryed to find out who he was. Neither Tidus nor Zidane belonged where they were, and it was intersting watching them struggle to find their places in the world.

[Divine Drummer]

Wasnt the voice for Tidus the futurama dude?

[Kingofdudes]

Wasnt the voice for Tidus the futurama dude?

Nah but Wakka and Bender is the same person though.

[gitzplayer1021]

what's the point of the brave and faith points in FFT? i've payed through and batne the games like 5 times, but i never really thought aout those points. what is the relevance? is it something like fighting strength and magic strength?

[MAthiAS]

The higher your brave the better your chances of counterattacking (or whatever your response skill is set to), and if you or an enemy's brave gets below 10, that character turns into a chicken. Faith is like magic power I'm pretty sure, if its zero, magic has no effect on you, but your casting sucks.

[Digital Boy]

what's the point of the brave and faith points in FFT? i've payed through and batne the games like 5 times, but i never really thought aout those points. what is the relevance? is it something like fighting strength and magic strength?

Brave is basically your character's physical ability. Higher brave = deal more damage, better chance of reaction abilities (Blade Grasp, Counter, ect.), ect. I know brave also inversely affects your Move-Find success rate... lower brave means a better chance of finding something. Also, if your brave drops below 10, you turn into a chicken until it gets back up to 10. Faith is a two-edged sword. If you have high faith, you'll take more magic damage and deal more magic damage. If your faith gets too high, the characer will leave your party.

[RustedPieces]

When is FF12 supposed to come out?

[infinate_ammo]

I heard it comes out january next year.

[Lionheart1827]

When is FF12 supposed to come out?

According to IGN, there's supposedly be a lot of good news on FF12 this July. :thumb:

[chorbalan]

You guys talking got me to check out FFX so I rented it and I gotta say it's not so bad. VII and VIII are better XIV is worse IMO. I am at the part where they just go on the airship.

By the way is it normal for my characters to be hitting around 1000 at most at this point? I am kind of rushing through the game so I can beat it in time so I don't take notice of sidequests and stuff. I don't use FAQs either.

[red barchetta]

You guys talking got me to check out FFX so I rented it and I gotta say it's not so bad. VII and VIII are better XIV is worse IMO. I am at the part where they just go on the airship.

By the way is it normal for my characters to be hitting around 1000 at most at this point? I am kind of rushing through the game so I can beat it in time so I don't take notice of sidequests and stuff. I don't use FAQs either.
XIV!?? you come from the future or something?

which one are you talking about? i'm sure i can help you

[Slash04]

FF lost most of its appeal after FF9 IMO... The nostalgic feeling's no longer there... :( And there's no more Tifa or Selphie or Garnet... I dig Rikku though... Yum...

[red barchetta]

FF lost most of its appeal after FF9 IMO... The nostalgic feeling's no longer there... :( And there's no more Tifa or Selphie or Garnet... I dig Rikku though... Yum...
i really think that the reason square made 10-2 was to put Rikku in a Bikini. those sick bastards...

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, it was an attempt at hentai. Of course... Tifa would be pretty nice looking if they remade FFVII, she's like the Angelina Jolie of video games.

[RustedPieces]

FF lost most of its appeal after FF9 IMO... The nostalgic feeling's no longer there... :( And there's no more Tifa or Selphie or Garnet... I dig Rikku though... Yum...
I don't think they can ever make a game better than FFVII IMO. That was the best RPG I've ever played.

[Happy]

FF lost most of its appeal after FF9 IMO... The nostalgic feeling's no longer there... :( And there's no more Tifa or Selphie or Garnet... I dig Rikku though... Yum...
It kinda lost appeal to me after they mentioned online play (which i can't afford) and sequels. The only one that should have a sequel ( and is getting one in the form of a movie) is FFVII.

[red barchetta]

ff lost its appeal to me when they changed the whole levelling up thing and the crap battle system of X.

everything they changed in X was for the bad - voice acting, no ATB gauges, hp over 9999, normal attacks being able to do 9999, the battle system (you know when the enemy is going to attack so you can get an aeon or another character to take the damage), the ultimate villian (sin) not wanting to rule the world, no world map, no flying around on airship...

[Lionheart1827]

ff lost its appeal to me when they changed the whole levelling up thing and the crap battle system of X.

everything they changed in X was for the bad - voice acting, no ATB gauges, hp over 9999, normal attacks being able to do 9999, the battle system (you know when the enemy is going to attack so you can get an aeon or another character to take the damage), the ultimate villian (sin) not wanting to rule the world, no world map, no flying around on airship...

yup. some of the music and cinema scenes were good, but, other than that it disapointed me. Tidus is a wuss, Auron should've been the main character.

As I said in previous posts, what happened to having a badass lead character, like Cecil, Cloud, Squall?

:thumb:

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Man reading all this FF stuff...I'm gonna go try to beat Zeromus. I wonder if I still can. Haven't fought him in like a year, but the FF4 ending is the best in the series.

If any of you haven't played it, I would highly recommend it. In my opinion it's a better game than the highly recognized FF6. It's one of the toughest RPG's you will play.

[red barchetta]

yup. some of the music and cinema scenes were good, but, other than that it disapointed me. Tidus is a wuss, Auron should've been the main character.

As I said in previous posts, what happened to having a badass lead character, like Cecil, Cloud, Squall?

:thumb:
exactly. ff NEEDS a badass main character. or at least one that changes drastically along the way, like zidane and terra (my personal favourite character EVER)

and like i said previously, Seymour really should've been the last fight. he was much more evil than yevon or jecht. and his final form is what a real last boss should look like. not a stupid spider thing like yu yevon.

to those who played FF5 - didnt yu yevon's appearance remind you of deathclaw from 5?

[red barchetta]

Man reading all this FF stuff...I'm gonna go try to beat Zeromus. I wonder if I still can. Haven't fought him in like a year, but the FF4 ending is the best in the series.

If any of you haven't played it, I would highly recommend it. In my opinion it's a better game than the highly recognized FF6. It's one of the toughest RPG's you will play.
yes, ff4 was VERY tough. because only ONE of your characters can properly heal your party.

but in 6,7,8,9,10 (and i suppose so on :( ), you can let everyone use white magic.

[Mister_Che]

but in 6,7,8,9,10 (and i suppose so on :( ), you can let everyone use white magic.

Perhaps, but they wont always be effective. In FFXI, only White and Red Mages and Paladins can cure.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Man reading all this FF stuff...I'm gonna go try to beat Zeromus. I wonder if I still can. Haven't fought him in like a year, but the FF4 ending is the best in the series.

If any of you haven't played it, I would highly recommend it. In my opinion it's a better game than the highly recognized FF6. It's one of the toughest RPG's you will play.


Is it known as FF II in the US?

[red barchetta]

Perhaps, but they wont always be effective. In FFXI, only White and Red Mages and Paladins can cure.
but thats more than one character/job, right?



and ff4 is known as ff2 in US (to flyingpaul)

[FlyingPaul_83]

ok thanks.

Uh, do you know that your avatar is messed up?(to red barchetta)

[red barchetta]

ok thanks.

Uh, do you know that your avatar is messed up?(to red barchetta)
really? messed up as in fuzzy, lines through it etc?

[Mister_Che]

but thats more than one character/job, right?



and ff4 is known as ff2 in US (to flyingpaul)

Yeah. The point is, only those 3 can heal at all, and the White Mage is unduoubtedly the best at healing. That being said, those three will be in a party together 90% of the time.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Well I got rocked twice by Zeromus. Guess I'll try my luck again some other day.

[red barchetta]

Well I got rocked twice by Zeromus. Guess I'll try my luck again some other day.
what level are your characters?

[MAthiAS]

really? messed up as in fuzzy, lines through it etc?
More like its showing a hermaphroditic wimp with the sense of humor of a 4 year old.

[FlyingPaul_83]

More like its showing a hermaphroditic wimp with the sense of humor of a 4 year old.


I don't get it. :confused: Are you making fun of me? cause his avatar was messed up earlier today.

[MAthiAS]

I know, I'm making fun of Quina.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Ok I'm back from training at work, and am gonna try this again til I get it.

what level are your characters?

My guys are always low level in every FF game. I just get to the boss quick and don't like spending time leveling up. Kain is 54, Rydia is 51, Cecil is 55, Rosa is 52, and Edge is 54.

Rydia dies from the first big bang every time, so I never even revive or use her. If I don't time Kain's jump right then I'm screwed too, because Rosa's Cure 4 is only strong enough to heal 3 people, so if Kain gets hit by big bang I'm in a lot of trouble. Makes the fight pretty damn tough and fun.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Cool, I just whooped Zeromus finally. Man, he is such a tough fight. With my guys if I make a single mistake I'm done. You've got to fight him soooo conservatively. I mean you need to heal every single round even if your guys don't need it just so you don't break your rotation, or just in case he sneaks in a big bang or two.

Time to watch the ending.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Whoo, I just triple posted even though my posts were spread out. Who is everyone's favorite off-main character? Meaning like the second main character. I haven't played the first couple or the 5'th, but these are the characters I mean:

4 - Kain
6 - Sabin, Cyan, Edgar, Celes
7 - Barret, Tifa
8 - Rinoa, Zell
9 - Vivi, Steiner
10 - Auron

You can choose any character that isn't a main character; these are just the ones that stick out as not main main characters in my mind. My favorite is Kain. The guy was the prelude to badasses like Auron and Sabin. Such a powerful character and always kicked the crap out of people.

[FlyingPaul_83]

out of the ones I've played:

VI:Edgar(haven't pleyed throught the whole game yet, but I like him a lot so far.)
VII:Cid(doesn't really do anything special, but I think hes cool)
VIII:Zell(he was Squall's first friend and helped him out whenever he was troubled)
IX:Vivi(I don't need to say anything)
X:Auron(I don't need to say anything)

[Your Mom, B*tch]

I meant choose 1. Sorry to make it confusing. Who is your favorite secondary character?

[FlyingPaul_83]

I meant choose 1. Sorry to make it confusing. Who is your favorite secondary character?


oh ok, Probably Auron, he was the coolest thing in FFX.

[mmfan486]

You can't really choose Sephiroth, can't you?

Ok then, Vincent. I always loved his attack.

[MAthiAS]

VII - I can't pick just one... Red (just seemed like a cool dude, had a cool backstory), Vincent (also had an awesome backstory and just a badass guy), Tifa (had a huge rack)
VIII - Irvine (just liked him), Laguna (he's like the same as Squall... awesome), Seifer
IX - Vivi (probably the only cool guy in that game)
X - Auron (total badass), Lulu (goth chick with huge rack... sounds like a winner)

Lets do least favorite off-main characters too...
VII - Cait Sith (pointless character...)
VIII - Selphie (the least unique one)
IX - Quina (he's almost as bad as Tidus)
X - Yuna (Hahaha... nuff said)

[Mister_Che]

Laguna (he's like the same as Squall... awesome

You realise thats his father right?

[Divine Drummer]

I dunno if this has already been said but i heard ffIX was originally made as a tribute to all the other ff's, thts why so many stuff in it was familiar(clouds sword in lindblum, the renaming card, theres plenty more). But it turned to to be so great tht it was turned into a full ff, personally one of my favs.

[Drall]

I dunno if this has already been said but i heard ffIX was originally made as a tribute to all the other ff's, thts why so many stuff in it was familiar(clouds sword in lindblum, the renaming card, theres plenty more). But it turned to to be so great tht it was turned into a full ff, personally one of my favs.

yeah, except the ending blew.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I dunno if this has already been said but i heard ffIX was originally made as a tribute to all the other ff's, thts why so many stuff in it was familiar(clouds sword in lindblum, the renaming card, theres plenty more). But it turned to to be so great tht it was turned into a full ff, personally one of my favs.


where is clouds sword in lindblum?

[red barchetta]

I know, I'm making fun of Quina.
you just leave him/her alone!! he/she is awesome!!!

whatever, say what you want.

anyway, fav. non-main characters:

4 - yan
5 - faris
6 - shadow
7 - vincent
8 - kiros
9 - freya
10 - wakka

[infinate_ammo]

You realise thats his father right?I actually didn't figure that out until my third play through.

[Mister_Che]

I actually didn't figure that out until my third play through.

Second for me. Then it hit me once Kiros said something about Squall not being like his father aboard the Ragnarok. Or something like that.

[MAthiAS]

You realise thats his father right?
Yeah, of course.

[gitzplayer1021]

i have played VIII like 5 times... :eek: ... how come i never realized that?? it all seems so obvious now... i just don't pick up on stuff like that, i guess

[Liberi Fatali]

They handle the family links pretty well. I find it interesting how all the main and minor characters in VIII are all intertwined and related somehow. Like Cid and Edea being married, and running an orphanage that all your characters go to.

There is quite a lot of subtle stuff in VIII that many do not pick up on.

[red barchetta]

They handle the family links pretty well. I find it interesting how all the main and minor characters in VIII are all intertwined and related somehow. Like Cid and Edea being married, and running an orphanage that all your characters go to.

There is quite a lot of subtle stuff in VIII that many do not pick up on.
i like the way square put these kind of things in final fantasys

like in 6, shadow is relm's father

[Divine Drummer]

where is clouds sword in lindblum?

well not actually 'his' sword, but there is one in the weapons shop that looks like the buster sword and zidane says 'i used to know a guy with pointy hair who had a sword like this

[Divine Drummer]

i still dont get the relation of vincent, sephiroth, hojo, and lucia or however you spell her name i forgot

[MAthiAS]

like in 6, shadow is relm's father
Dammit, you ruined it for me.
i still dont get the relation of vincent, sephiroth, hojo, and lucia or however you spell
I can't really explain it, I haven't played the game for a while so I'm not too sure.

[Mister_Che]

i still dont get the relation of vincent, sephiroth, hojo, and lucia or however you spell her name i forgot

Hojo is basically the guy that created both Sephiroth and Cloud. Lucia was his assistant. Vincent fell in love with Lucia. Vincent was eventually submitted to testing by Hojo.

I know I messed up somewhere, someone clear it up for me.

[Happy]

What i made of it is that Vincent and Lucia were and Lucia was pregnant. Gast was obssesed with Jenova and injected her cells into Lucia's foetus. Vincent tried to stop the experiment and was shot and experimented on by Gast. When Sephiroth was born, he was taken away. Therefore he thought he was the child of Jenova and didn't know that Lucia was his biological mother. I don't know about Hojo, but i think he found part of Jenova and took some cells. Later on, when you fight him, he has injected these cells and now has powers beyond human.
Most of it's probably wrong but that's what i got from the game.

[red barchetta]

Dammit, you ruined it for me.
.
i'm sorry :upset:

[Mister_Che]

Y'know, I love FFVIII, but that is probably the worst Cid in any FF. Even the one in FFXI is cool.

[Divine Drummer]

Iv'e wondered cuz vincent is sephiroth's dad, but he appears younger, unless his injection made him immortal or summin, but i think i saw his age on Advent Children (not the actual film but when researching it) and it said 27 or summin alike. And then Hojo said that he was sephitoths dad, and its all confusing.

[red barchetta]

no one really knows anything about Vincent at the moment.

i think everything will be clear when dirge of cerberus gets released

[KurDtKobane0494]

yeah hojo is sephiroths dad vincent was just mad cuz he couldnt stop lucricia (how ever its spelled) from being with hojo and going with the jonova project

[3rdplanet]

no one really knows anything about Vincent at the moment.

i think everything will be clear when dirge of cerberus gets released

I really hope Dirge of Cerberus is good. The screens I saw looked cool as.

Vincent was the daddy, I always had him in my crew even though his Limit Breaks (whilst fun) were a bit rubbish, especially when compared to Cid (Highwind).

That's why I used Cid to fight the weapons.

[red barchetta]

vincents ultimate weapon gets good though, if you've killed a lot of monsters using him. i always had him in my party along with red and cloud.

dirge of cerberus... i hope it's better than devil may cry

[spskillz]

Aren't so hot anymore. Actually I haven't played one since 7. Have I really missed anything though?

[red barchetta]

yeah hojo is sephiroths dad vincent was just mad cuz he couldnt stop lucricia (how ever its spelled) from being with hojo and going with the jonova project
hehe, theres a whole thread in the pit about your username

[Happy]

You know i swear it was Gast and not Hojo that lucia was with.

[Zmev]

yeah hojo is sephiroths dad vincent was just mad cuz he couldnt stop lucricia (how ever its spelled) from being with hojo and going with the jonova project

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=356126&page=1&pp=25

[Der Meister]

yeah hojo is sephiroths dad vincent was just mad cuz he couldnt stop lucricia (how ever its spelled) from being with hojo and going with the jonova project

beaten to the punch :upset:

[MAthiAS]

You know i swear it was Gast and not Hojo that lucia was with.
Yeah, I think it was Lucrecia with Gast in the tapes you see at Icicle Inn.

This is why FFVII has such great replay value, I can never remember the intricacies of the story, so its always fresh to replay.

vincents ultimate weapon gets good though, if you've killed a lot of monsters using him. i always had him in my party along with red and cloud.
He was pretty cool, yeah. I pretty much always used Red and Cid, but I rotated Vincent, Tifa, and Yuffie in too.

Have I really missed anything though?
FFVIII was awesome, IX is worth playing, X isn't really unless you want to.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Am I just stupid or are you guys crazy? I've beaten FF6 and FF7 dozens of times all the way each and I never got that Vincent is Sephiroth's father and Shadow is Relm's father. Explain please. Then again it's been awhile since I played both games through all the way so I don't remember all the stuff.

[gitzplayer1021]

i never picked up either of those things either, but then again, i haven't beaten VI yet, but i kind of picked up on the vincent thing... i guess those facts just aren't very straight-forward.

[red barchetta]

I never got that Vincent is Sephiroth's father and Shadow is Relm's father. Explain please. Then again it's been awhile since I played both games through all the way so I don't remember all the stuff.
i too am not sure of vincent's story, here's shadow's:

take in mind that i've only played the japanese version so i only know japanese names.

first, shadow's real name is Clide (in the japanese one) and he had a partner called Billy. together, they commited many crimes. one day, billy decides that they should name their duo - they name it Shadow.

one day, when Billy and Clide are running away from the cops or something, Billy gets injured, and realises that he will get caught and tortured if it stays this way. he asks Clide to kill him, but Clide runs away like a coward.

after some time, Clide wonders off into an unknown villiage (which is Samasa, Relm's villiage). he meets a woman, who rescues him.

*the above information can be found in Shadow's dream when you recruit him for the second time in Locke's home villiage.*

(after the world's breakdown)

If you waited for Shadow, you will let meet him in the cave instead of Relm. You can see a dream he is dreaming at some point - it is of him leaving the villiage he was in, and by his side, is his dog.

If you didnt wait for Shadow, you will meet Relm in the cave. You will see her dream - it is her crying, and saying where her dad is. and by her side, is a dog.


now, just with this info, it is not clear. but remember when you first saw Relm, Shadow's dog liked her, when it doesnt like any other person other than Shadow? it means that it has met Relm before.

and to prove that Shadow is Relm's father, there is a relic called memento ring. the description for it is 'Departed mom's love protects against fatal magic attacks'. ONLY SHADOW AND RELM CAN EQUIP THIS. maening this ring belonged to someone important to these two characters: in shadow's case, his wife, and in relm's case, her mother.

i think that's it

[Divine Drummer]

Yeah, I think it was Lucrecia with Gast in the tapes you see at Icicle Inn.

That was Gast and Aeris' Mum at the icicle inn. Cant remember her name, but that means Gast is Aeris' dad!

[MAthiAS]

So... Sephiroth is Aeris' brother? Which means Cloud is too? :confused:

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

So... Sephiroth is Aeris' brother? Which means Cloud is too? :confused:
No. Hojo created Sephiroth and Cloud, and Hojo is not professor Gast. Don't bring incest into this, you evil hentai worshipper. :p

[Your Mom, B*tch]

Seems pretty far fetched, Red Barchetta. What's to say that Shadow wasn't just a friend of Relm and her mother? I can see where he may have had something to do with the family, but I don't see any direct "Shadow is Relm's father" indications.

[DeusExMachina]

Seems pretty far fetched, Red Barchetta. What's to say that Shadow wasn't just a friend of Relm and her mother? I can see where he may have had something to do with the family, but I don't see any direct "Shadow is Relm's father" indications.
I haven't played the game through fully in several years, but I'm fairly certain that Shadow is Relm's father. Have you seen all the dreams? Plus, Interceptor's attachment to Relm. Beyond all the circumstantial evidence, I seem to recall it being made explicit in the dreams. But I may be wrong.

[red barchetta]

Seems pretty far fetched, Red Barchetta. What's to say that Shadow wasn't just a friend of Relm and her mother? I can see where he may have had something to do with the family, but I don't see any direct "Shadow is Relm's father" indications.
jsut.. watch the dreams. i'm not very good at explaining :p

in relm's dream, she says something like 'where is dad? isnt he coming back?', and after her speech, the dog (presumably interceptor) dashes out of the house.

in shadow's dream (the one where he is leaving the villiage), interceptor comes to stop Clide leaving the villiage, but he tells interceptor 'to go back to his daughter'. this means he has a daughter. he leaves, and then interceptor follows him.

connect all the dreams together, and i came up with the conclusion that shadow is relm's father, and he is leaving the villiage because he feels bad about what he did to Billy

[MAthiAS]

No. Hojo created Sephiroth and Cloud, and Hojo is not professor Gast.
But didn't Hojo continue the work of Gast or something?

[chorbalan]

Does anyone know where I can find the final FMV sequences for FFX the ones with jecht and then the very last one since i wanna see em again and i had to return the game.

[red barchetta]

Does anyone know where I can find the final FMV sequences for FFX the ones with jecht and then the very last one since i wanna see em again and i had to return the game.
http://www.ffhybrid.net/ff10/ff10_fmvs_movies.php

you might have to register, but its free

[crag]

does anyone know if they are making a remake of FFVII or a part 2 for it or is the rumours im hearing a pile of pish

[red barchetta]

there will be NO remake of FF7 on any console. however, there will be some sequals, but not in the normal final fantasy way.

'final fantasy - advent children' is a movie which takes place 2 years after FF7

'dirge of cerberus' is a third-person shooter with Vincent as the main character, which i think takes place a year after advent children or something

and there is prequal of FF7, but only on the mobile/cell phone.

[Brew]

I just got Cerberus in FFVIII :cool:

It took about 3 attempts to actually beat him though :(

[I am a revenant]

Is that when you fight it in the hall of Galbadia Garden? That thing was quite tough if i remember correctly, i really loved the GF system of FFVIII. I thought the game had a lot of replay value too, because if you missed a certain GF you could go back through it and get it, or find it at the end of the game.

[red barchetta]

yeah, ceberus was REALLY hard when i fought him. 3 magics in a row can kill anyone...

[MAthiAS]

or find it at the end of the game.
Where do you find them at the end?

Yeah, VIII was actually pretty tough, except leveling was too easy.

[red barchetta]

Yeah, VIII was actually pretty tough, except leveling was too easy.
thats because levelling up made the game tough

[JonG]

VIII was fun. One of my favorites behind III and VII.

[I am a revenant]

Where do you find them at the end?

Yeah, VIII was actually pretty tough, except leveling was too easy.

You can get some GF's at Ultimecia's castle, such as Carbuncle and a few others from the bosses scattered around the castle, just draw from them.

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

But didn't Hojo continue the work of Gast or something?
....yes, but that doesn't make them the same person.

[Thomislegend]

Just started VIII again - oooh how I missed it...

Also XII looks an absolute beast of a game, looking forward to September :D

geekXcore

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

Just started VIII again - oooh how I missed it...

Also XII looks an absolute beast of a game, looking forward to September :D

geekXcore
Don't forget to give it back once you're finished with it. :p

[Brew]

Cerberus is a piece of cake if you get your strat. sorted out.

Cast Triple on every party member.
Cast regen/haste/protect/shell etc...
Dispel him every time he casts Triple on himself
Use Auras to get Limit Breaks, Zell's limit break pretty much did all the damage needed...only around 5000HP.

[Deathcrush]

I want to get into Final Fantasy again, and I wanna try out the pre-playstation ones. What one is recommended most? Also, is there any where you don't just randomly end up in a battle, you can actually see your enemies before engaging in combat with them?

Also, links to roms please. :)

[MAthiAS]

Seems FFVI is recommended most. I don't have a rom though, I bought Anthology a few years back and never played it much.

[Shadows]

FFIV is easily the best of the pre-PS FF games. And as far as I know, FF has never made a game where you can actually see your enemies before engaging them - unless you count FF Tactics.

Speaking of FF Tactics, I may finally beat it for the first time in all my years of owning it. I usually get to the last series of battles and then strangely lose interest.

[Your Mom, B*tch]

FFIV is easily the best of the pre-PS FF games. And as far as I know, FF has never made a game where you can actually see your enemies before engaging them - unless you count FF Tactics.


In Final Fantasy Mystic Quest you can see your enemies. That game is really crappy though. I would also recommend FF4. It's probably the best overall game in the Final Fantasy series.

[Lionheart1827]

jsut.. watch the dreams. i'm not very good at explaining :p

in relm's dream, she says something like 'where is dad? isnt he coming back?', and after her speech, the dog (presumably interceptor) dashes out of the house.

in shadow's dream (the one where he is leaving the villiage), interceptor comes to stop Clide leaving the villiage, but he tells interceptor 'to go back to his daughter'. this means he has a daughter. he leaves, and then interceptor follows him.

connect all the dreams together, and i came up with the conclusion that shadow is relm's father, and he is leaving the villiage because he feels bad about what he did to Billy

It's true. I'm glad theres people other than me that has figured this out. It's kinda implied. Interceptor gets a long with Relm really well. Then after you start connecting the dreams together, it just falls into place. :thumb:

[Shadows]

FFVI is my second favorite FF, but I've never seen a single one of Shadows' dreams. I know he's Relm's father, but I'd like to see the dreams just so I'll know what the hell people are talking about when they talk about them.

[MAthiAS]

Speaking of FF Tactics, I may finally beat it for the first time in all my years of owning it. I usually get to the last series of battles and then strangely lose interest.
Heh, on my last time through, I got to the battle with Elmdor where you can steal Genji gear, tried about 10 times (failed each time), and haven't played it since. I've played that game through countless times though.

[Shadows]

I never bothered trying to steal the Genji gear. But for the first time I had Ramza learn Ultima. now I'm hanging around the Deep Dungeon gaining levels and JP with all the unique characters like Rafa and Mustadio. Maybe I'll actually finish the game for once.

[MAthiAS]

Did you get Beowulf and Reis and Worker 8 and Cloud?

[Shadows]

Not this time around yet, but I have before. I enjoy getting Cloud up to level 70 or so like the rest of my team after I get him. It's like a big project. He makes a pretty decent magic user in time.

And Beowulf just kicks ***.

[Corza]

I really loved finaly fantasy 7 & tactics they own :)

[Divine Drummer]

Has anyone seen a vid of what a remake would be like on PS3. They're not actually making it but just showing a demo of its graphics, but they re-did all of the intro and it looks amazing

[Deathcrush]

Okay, I am now playing Final Fantasy 4 for the first time ever.

I noticed when playing this ROM, at times when you walk about there is a sort of ripple on the screen. Is this normal?

EDIT : Also, where might one be able to save their place in this game (which I am liking alot so far :D )

[Brew]

If you have a poisoned character the screen jiggles as you walk around.

[Deathcrush]

If you have a poisoned character the screen jiggles as you walk around.

No, no - not like that. I mean like as if there is a small glitch in the ROM or something. It isn't really a huge deal, just sort of annoying.

[red barchetta]

Okay, I am now playing Final Fantasy 4 for the first time ever.

I noticed when playing this ROM, at times when you walk about there is a sort of ripple on the screen. Is this normal?

EDIT : Also, where might one be able to save their place in this game (which I am liking alot so far :D )
if you're using a ROM, surely you can just save anywhere?

[Brew]

No, no - not like that. I mean like as if there is a small glitch in the ROM or something. It isn't really a huge deal, just sort of annoying.

Oh, ok.

My guess is a dodgy ROM.

But yeh...you can save anywhere when using ROMs.

[crag]

whats the best final fantasy for the ps2 at the moment?
i've only played ffVII, VIII and IX and would like one for the ps2

[Drall]

whats the best final fantasy for the ps2 at the moment?
i've only played ffVII, VIII and IX and would like one for the ps2

Check out FFX.

[red barchetta]

whats the best final fantasy for the ps2 at the moment?
i've only played ffVII, VIII and IX and would like one for the ps2
well, there's only 10, 10-2 and 11 for the ps2.

11 is online and different from other ff's, and 10-2 is just rubbish

you can either play 10, or wait for 12 to come out.

[Evangelion]

Final Fantasy 7 best game. Final Fantasy X-2 horrible, as is FF9.

[Otherside]

Final Fantasy 7 best game. Final Fantasy X-2 horrible, as is FF9.

Wrong. FFVI > FVII

[Shadows]

Does anyone else think FFX kind of sucks? I tried it - the limit break system was cool, but I thought the sphere grid thing was horribly bad. Granted, I was only about an hour into the game. I was thinking of buying it anyway.

[MAthiAS]

I thought it was pretty bad. Mainly because of the lame story. There was no cool main character like Cloud, and no cool bad guy like Sephiroth. Honestly, the story in X-2 is almost better than X. I didn't really mind the sphere grid too much, but I'll always love materia. And changing characters in battle made it extremely easy, especially since you could see when the enemy would attack.

[Shadows]

I don't think an FF game will ever have a better system than Materia. The sphere grid I thought was awful...but more importently, I thoguht the main character (can't remember his name) was a freaking idiot.

That and blitzball was the most offensively stupid thing ever to be put in a FF game. I can't begin to comprehend how ridiculous it was.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, blitzball sucked. Turn-based soccer underwater? Come on Sqeenix, you can do better than that.

[TheBlackAcidChildren]

Yeah, blitzball sucked. Turn-based soccer underwater? Come on Sqeenix, you can do better than that.
Blitzball wasn't turn-based... or not what I call turn-based. Maybe when you executed moves, yeah. But the rest was real-time, and I quite enjoyed it as a mini-game. However having to complete tournament and league after tournament and league just to get the Jupiter Sigil wasn't amazingly fun.

[MAthiAS]

It was just too easy and RPG like to be actually fun. Most of it was just simple math, the real time parts were all but non-existent.

[Kingofdudes]

I don't think an FF game will ever have a better system than Materia. The sphere grid I thought was awful...but more importently, I thoguht the main character (can't remember his name) was a freaking idiot.

That and blitzball was the most offensively stupid thing ever to be put in a FF game. I can't begin to comprehend how ridiculous it was.

FFT Job System > Materia System

[MAthiAS]

I didn't like the job system much in FFV though. I don't think it works too well in that kind of battle system. But it was awesome in FFT.

[Shadows]

The FFT job system was nice and creative, but I still don't think it can compare with FFVII's Materia.

[red barchetta]

FFT Job System > Materia System
yeah, job system > materia all the way.

i dont really like having more than 4 commands in one window for a character. and i hated it ffX where you had to scroll down to find a certain command - that was annoying.

[3rdplanet]

FFX > You all

:angry:

:upset:

[Otherside]

FFX > You all

:angry:

:upset:

Don't worry, I loved FFX as well. People were just expecting another protagonist that was of the silent, depressed, emo kid variety. Instead, they got Tidus, who acted more like a real person. The battle system was top-notch, say otherwise and I'll call you a liar.

[MAthiAS]

Instead, they got Tidus, who acted more like a real person.
If by real person you mean real 4 year old, I agree.

And man, the battle system was so simplified though. You could change dudes in battle to take hits for you (which you knew exactly what turn would happen)

[Otherside]

If by real person you mean real 4 year old, I agree.

And man, the battle system was so simplified though. You could change dudes in battle to take hits for you (which you knew exactly what turn would happen)

But look at Tidus' position. It's not like any normal person after being sent fowards in time for no reason by his old mentor would act cool and badass about it, they would be confused and freaked out, not even to factor in the culture shock involved. And I liked the strategic-edge that the battle system had, sure you knew the next time a boss would hit, but that meant you had to prepare for it because there was a good chance that not all your characters would survive.. a good example would be the big dragon thing ontop of the airship.

[Lionheart1827]

Did anybody notice that the MP3 and Movie sections of FFHybrid.net has been closed down? Square told them to close it down. That sucks. :thumb:

[Kingofdudes]

Did anybody notice that the MP3 and Movie sections of FFHybrid.net has been closed down? Square told them to close it down. That sucks. :thumb:
wtf gay **** That is incredibley retarded.

I got away with a bunch of songs though before the closing :cool:

[Lionheart1827]

wtf gay **** That is incredibley retarded.

I got away with a bunch of songs though before the closing :cool:

Me too.

I own the good soundtracks though. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

But look at Tidus' position. It's not like any normal person after being sent fowards in time for no reason by his old mentor would act cool and badass about it, they would be confused and freaked out, not even to factor in the culture shock involved.
I don't care if its not realistic. I don't want a normal faggot character. This is Final Fantasy, give me a cool dude. Cloud wouldn't play ****in blitzball!

[Deathcrush]

Well I am totally enjoying Final Fantasy 4! :D Woo!

[Kingofdudes]

On the talk of main characters, it would be badass if Square took up Maddox's project (http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=maddoxgame) and made the next FF game about maddox.

[Digital Boy]

Man, I'm pretty aggrivated right now. In FFXI, they fought Vrtra on my server. Well, I had no idea where he was so I was walking around for hours trying to find him. I finally find him and they've already killed him.

Screenshot of my utter disappointment: http://users.cjb.net/god-hates-haters/vrtra.html

Yes, I play as a chick, shut the hell up.

[Shadows]

I don't care if its not realistic. I don't want a normal faggot character. This is Final Fantasy, give me a cool dude. Cloud wouldn't play ****in blitzball!
Which is why Cloud >>>>>>> all other FF characters.

I still might buy FFX because I liked the fast-moving battle system with the unique new system of limit breaks.

[Digital Boy]

FFX? Fast moving battle system? FFX doesn't even have the ATB system.

[Shadows]

I jus remember everyone running to attack one after another unlike previous games where there was a big gap between each character's turn.

[Digital Boy]

Oh yeah, the battles can be fast but there's no fast thinking involved.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, its really for noobs. And the FF games are never very hard.

[Otherside]

FFX-2 had some of the fastest gameplay ever for a RPG, even if it did suck.

[MAthiAS]

This is true... X-2 could've been good if they thought about it a bit more...

[FlyingPaul_83]

Final Fantasy 7 best game. Final Fantasy X-2 horrible, as is FF9.


IX doesn't suck.

[Shadows]

Was X-2 an online only game...? I can never keep X-2 and XI straight.

[MAthiAS]

XI is the online one. X-2 is the one that sucks.

[Mister_Che]

FFX-2 had some of the fastest gameplay ever for a RPG, even if it did suck.

Thats the only thing I liked from the game.

[red barchetta]

i was quite surprised when the first battle of ffX-2 started. the enemy got about 3 attacks to me before i found out what was going on

[Lionheart1827]

FFX-2 had some of the fastest gameplay ever for a RPG, even if it did suck.

If you want to see some fast battles, check out Tales of Symphonia or Star Ocean. A typical battle can last like 10 seconds, sometimes even 5 seconds. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

I never did understand the battle system completely in Star Ocean 2... probably why I never finished it.

[gitzplayer1021]

star ocean, whooo!!! but FF is still the best. i think voice-overs could work very well, but as long as they make the characters right. seriously, XII had better be amazing, because X and X-2 were major disappointments, and i couldn't be bothered to try XI... redeem yourselves Squenix!!

[Lionheart1827]

They should stop making crappy new FF's and make a new Chrono game. God, that series is just waiting to explode. :thumb:

The last good FF imo was 9, and that was good, but not awesome. They gotta shape up the FF series. I really want to see a new Chrono game. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

When is XII's release supposed to be? I've heard fall, but I thought it was going to be on PS3. :confused:

[Mister_Che]

They should stop making crappy new FF's and make a new Chrono game. God, that series is just waiting to explode. :thumb:

Chrono Break was cancelled.

and i couldn't be bothered to try XI... redeem yourselves Squenix!!

Thats too bad, FFXI is great, and theres nothing like needing 18 people at level 75 (current level cap) just to kill Behemoth/King Behemoth.

[MAthiAS]

Is XI pay to play?

[Kingofdudes]

^yes

Your guy's talk of fast battle systems unfortanately(sp?) made me think of teh slowest one ever: Xenosaga. One boss took me about 30 minutes to kill.

[Otherside]

Thats too bad, FFXI is great, and theres nothing like needing 18 people at level 75 (current level cap) just to kill Behemoth/King Behemoth.

O_o

A party of 64s can take Behemoth, and a level 75 ninja can solo King Behemoth.

[Mister_Che]

Is XI pay to play?

Yes, but its worth it. I mean, you fight Behemoth the way it was meant to be fought, not with 4 people, but with 18! That just shows how powerful he really is. Not to mention the Chocobos, the Airships, every summon (Except for Bahamut, he's a boss), Moogles, nearly everything FF related is in here. Even Cid and a reference to Highwind.

[Mister_Che]

O_o

A party of 64s can take Behemoth, and a level 75 ninja can solo King Behemoth.

You read about the Red Mage who duo'd Behemoth? Hume Red Mage and a Taru White Mage.

[Otherside]

You read about the Red Mage who duo'd Behemoth? Hume Red Mage and a Taru White Mage.

I messed up my last post, I meant a 75 ninja could solo a regular behemoth, not King. King is insane.

And I could see a RDM soloing Behemoth, but it would be a lonnggggg battle.

[Mister_Che]

I messed up my last post, I meant a 75 ninja could solo a regular behemoth, not King. King is insane.

And I could see a RDM soloing Behemoth, but it would be a lonnggggg battle.

What server are you on? Anyone beaten Dynamis Lord or Vrtra yet?

[Otherside]

What server are you on? Anyone beaten Dynamis Lord or Vrtra yet?

Alexander, I'm not sure about DL, but there is a JPN LS that has beaten vrtra, multiple times even. I've seen a few of those level 73 BRD body JSE that has to be made from a drop off of vrtra. I believe the JPN LS name is pokemon, with a few smaller division LS's.

[Mister_Che]

Alexander, I'm not sure about DL, but there is a JPN LS that has beaten vrtra, multiple times even. I've seen a few of those level 73 BRD body JSE that has to be made from a drop off of vrtra. I believe the JPN LS name is pokemon, with a few smaller division LS's.

DL and Vrtra have been beaten on our server (Siren), Dynamis Lord by a NA LS if I rememebr correctly. Even so, I don't think anyone has a Relic weapon yet, but I know of a few people working on it.

[Lionheart1827]

Chrono Break was cancelled.

It wasnt even in production.

They'll make another Chrono game eventually. They cant milk the FF franchise forever. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

How much is it monthly for FFXI?

[Otherside]

How much is it monthly for FFXI?

$12 a month I think, plus an additional $1 a month for every extra character you make.

[red barchetta]

It wasnt even in production.

They'll make another Chrono game eventually. They cant milk the FF franchise forever. :thumb:
FF is going down. i think ff12 will be as bad as X.

[Mister_Che]

It wasnt even in production.

They'll make another Chrono game eventually. They cant milk the FF franchise forever. :thumb:

They'd better. Chrono Cross was defenitely one of my favorite games, and I'd hate to see it end with only 2 games in the series.

MAthiAS, FFXI is $12.95 a month, first month free.

[MAthiAS]

How come people never talk of remaking the pre-VII FFs, those would benefit much more from remaking...

Oh yeah, and for FFXI, how much does it cost for an adapter and headset for the PS2? And can you access it via wireless internet?

[red barchetta]

How come people never talk of remaking the pre-VII FFs, those would benefit much more from remaking
because most people in UK/US havent played FFs before 7.

i want a remake for 4.

[Mister_Che]

How come people never talk of remaking the pre-VII FFs, those would benefit much more from remaking...

FF6 was going to be redone for N64, there were even screenshots of it.

Oh yeah, and for FFXI, how much does it cost for an adapter and headset for the PS2? And can you access it via wireless internet?

Adapter, I'm not sure, you might want to google that. Headsets you cant use unless you're on a PC with a third party program. And I play using a wireless router.

[FlyingPaul_83]

can poeple that play the pc version, play with people who play with the console version?