The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[Happy]

Hey, its Square, you know how they like to milk their games.

[MrConeman]

Their motivation to do it, just like any companies motivation to do anything is the mountains of cash they would make.

The fans would gain, really basically in that FFVII is an awesome game, an updated version with voices and such - done right, would be another awesome game, everyone wins. That and think of all the younger teenagers who've heard how great VII is yet never played it because the PS1 is about as obsolete as a NES these days, the fan base would increase majorly.

[Bread and Faxes]

Yes, buying it when it came out like I did made it a complete blow away for me. It was spectacular.

I was a wee child of 7 :')

[Chrysostom]

Yes, buying it when it came out like I did made it a complete blow away for me. It was spectacular.

I was a wee child of 7 :')

Playing 7 at age 7? It's a sign, thou art the chosen one! He Who Will Lead Us To The Promised Land of Good Final Fantasy Games!

[Brew]

'sup guys.


FF Anthology has been sold already :eek:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230288349286&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:GB:1123
^FFVI

Feel free to bid or buy, I've got a few other things up for sale too.

[MrConeman]

Yes, buying it when it came out like I did made it a complete blow away for me. It was spectacular.

I was a wee child of 7 :')

Same here actually. I remember just thinking it was the pinnacle of all awesome. For a 7 year old I knew what I was talking about. I remember getting up an hour early on school days to play, and several times having to leave the console on because I wouldn't find a save point. The most notable example was Diamond weapon walking toward Midgar, I had to leave and spent the whole day worried that he'd killed my party and lost my save game :lol: . Thank crap he only walks halfway.

[fingers mccoy]

Their motivation to do it, just like any companies motivation to do anything is the mountains of cash they would make.

The fans would gain, really basically in that FFVII is an awesome game, an updated version with voices and such - done right, would be another awesome game, everyone wins. That and think of all the younger teenagers who've heard how great VII is yet never played it because the PS1 is about as obsolete as a NES these days, the fan base would increase majorly.

hahahaha it doesnt need a fanbase increase but of course i agree with you

i'm just saying it is hardly an obvious move, it's just something that has snowballed perversely because of a tech demo and a lot of hype

when i bought 7 i was pretty young and i didnt know how to read a compass, and i remember misinterpreting directions to the temple of the ancients and ending up in wutai

this was after a year of not knowing what memory cards were and not being allowed one

i thought i couldnt leave wutai and i didnt touch the game for like two, three years

[Chrysostom]

Same here actually. I remember just thinking it was the pinnacle of all awesome. For a 7 year old I knew what I was talking about. I remember getting up an hour early on school days to play, and several times having to leave the console on because I wouldn't find a save point. The most notable example was Diamond weapon walking toward Midgar, I had to leave and spent the whole day worried that he'd killed my party and lost my save game :lol: . Thank crap he only walks halfway.

I'd have been more worried about the parents turning the 'station off. Or your house burning down because of an electrical surge from leaving the TV/Playstation running all day.

[Bread and Faxes]

I just looked at my First FFVIII save today.

Squall: lvl 100
Zell: lvl 98
Rinoa: lvl 89
Irvine: lvl 22
Quostis: lvl 16
Selphie: lvl 20

lol

all the GFs and all my three highest leveled characters ultimate weapons.

maybe I should go back and take another crack at this game.

[MrConeman]

I'd have been more worried about the parents turning the 'station off. Or your house burning down because of an electrical surge from leaving the TV/Playstation running all day.

Well I turned the TV off so they wouldn't notice of course. It was a cunning plan.

[-Listy-]

i did that a couple of times :lol:

[Happy]

I just looked at my First FFVIII save today.

Squall: lvl 100
Zell: lvl 98
Rinoa: lvl 89
Irvine: lvl 22
Quostis: lvl 16
Selphie: lvl 20

lol

all the GFs and all my three highest leveled characters ultimate weapons.

maybe I should go back and take another crack at this game.

My squad was like that. It's so much better when they level up with your main party.

[Chrysostom]

Well I turned the TV off so they wouldn't notice of course. It was a cunning plan.

You sly dog!

[MAthiAS]

I'd have been more worried about the parents turning the 'station off. Or your house burning down because of an electrical surge from leaving the TV/Playstation running all day.
Lol I've left my PS2 on for weeks at a time while playing FFT.

FFVIII was most fun when you did a no-level up game.

[Anglachel]

Well I turned the TV off so they wouldn't notice of course. It was a cunning plan.
I changed the input back to TV and turned it off

[fatbandit]

My mate used to leave 7 running in the swamp so he could just pound on the Zolom while he was at school, sometimes for days on end. Nobody ever turned it off, but his playstation never ran that hot - I can't see that it ever would have caused a surge or anything :p

[Happy]

How did that work? Did he have counter set up with auto regen or something?

[MrConeman]

And who was hitting the O button to get out of the exp screen.

Uhh... auto fire?

[Collis]

You can just put an elastic band around the controller.

[fatbandit]

Aye, elastic band. And 7 is riddled with ways to abuse Materia for quick kills.

[Happy]

Cheap autofire ftw.

[Brew]

Whey, I've sold both FFAnthology and FFVI for £15 each.

[Happy]

You're making more money than me Brew :(

[Brew]

:cool:

I've got a few other items up with some more being added (mainly cds) when I can be arsed taking photos of them.

[Happy]

What CDs?

[Brew]

So far...

Atheist - Elements
Children of Bodom - Something Wild
Cradle of Filth - Damnation and a Day
Dio - Collection
Exodus - Tempo of the Damned
GZR - Plastic Planet
GZR - Ohmwork
Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast, Piece of Mind, No Prayer For The Dying, Fear of the Dark
Misfits meet the Nutley Brass - Fiend Club Lounge
Nightwish - Once
Nocturnal Rites - Shadowland
Overkill - From the Underground and Below + Necroshine


Maybe a few others. Bunch of stuff I never listen to.

[Chrysostom]

FFVIII was most fun when you did a no-level up game.

That's not fun. Your GFs never learn thier useful things if you do that.

[Anglachel]

yeah but it was hardly necessary

[Chrysostom]

I'd have been owned without them, I know that.

[MAthiAS]

I think there's some way around that, like you get AP but not EXP if you run away or something... don't really remember though.

[Phalanx]

just spam Renzokuken every fight :thumb:

[fingers mccoy]

ap from bosses

i think you might get ap if you turn stuff into cards but idk

[Chrysostom]

I really want to collect the whole FFVII Compilation, but there's no way I can ever get Before Crisis. Or Last Order for that matter. Or DoC: Lost Chapter. Damn it.

[Happy]

Some of its a Mobile Phone game right?

[Brew]

Arses, the guy who bought my copy of FFAnthology has it up for £30. I really hope no-one pays that much for it.

I noticed that Virgin has FFIV DS for a mere £25. As soon as my student loan comes through I know where I'm going.

[team_racket]

I might pick up the new DS one as well. Im fairly new to FF remakes though.

[Chrysostom]

Some of its a Mobile Phone game right?

Yeah, Before Crisis and DoC: Lost Chapter are mobile phone only. And only in Japan too. I mean, what the hell is the point in that? Why give Europe and the US the chance to own only part of the Compilation?

[fatbandit]

I watched Last Order on youtube, but I don't know if you want to own it or just watch it.

And I think I may have to go to buy FFIV DS from Zavvi when my first paycheck comes through XD

[Brew]

£25 at Virgin/Zavvi is the cheapest I've seen it so far.

[Bread and Faxes]

Is it true they are going to release Re-makes of number 5 and 6 as well?

[Brew]

I've not heard anything about V or VI remakes for the DS, they were remade for the Gameboy Advance a few years ago though.

[Bread and Faxes]

I own all of those. They did IV too then re-remade it. But it wasn't much of a remake more than it was a remaster.

[team_racket]

I own FFIV for GBA, so I will probably give it a miss. Definately picking up Chrono Trigger DS though.

[Bread and Faxes]

WHAT?

Chrono Trigger on DS????

[team_racket]

Full port from the SNES to the DS. Its still 2D though, not many changes. I cant wait to play it again.

Release around about November.

[Bread and Faxes]

I don't even care! Thats awesome! I wanna see chrono cross get there too!

[team_racket]

Damn straight. Earthbound/Mother 3 would be great also =/

[fatbandit]

Post 7777. Just had to go in this thread I think. That's all I have to contribute really :o

[Brew]

Whey, nice one.

I think my 10,000th post is in here somewhere.

[Happy]

I'll post my millionth in here :)

[Phalanx]

Full port from the SNES to the DS. Its still 2D though, not many changes. I cant wait to play it again.

Release around about November.

Sorry for being a bit pedantic, but it's not a "Full port" per se. It actually has additional dungeons in it :)

I can't wait either, but I really wish they had remastered the audio track, god damn that game is perfect music.

[Brew]

I love Squenix and their fetish for extra dungeons.

[Anglachel]

Sorry for being a bit pedantic, but it's not a "Full port" per se. It actually has additional dungeons in it :)

I can't wait either, but I really wish they had remastered the audio track, god damn that game is perfect music.
also there will be dual screen

[Brew]

also there will be dual screen

I read somewhere that they're putting in the option of only using one screen for the hardcore/oldschool fans.

[Bread and Faxes]

I liked being able to use my pen to make Cecil walk around :3

[Chrysostom]

Post 7777. Just had to go in this thread I think. That's all I have to contribute really :o

That reminds me, I stumbled across the existence of the Chocobo weapon in FFVII. Apparently it's the hardest enemy in the game. You have a 1/7777 chance of finding it randomly standing on any of the chocobo tracks across the world after you've beaten all the other weapons.

http://www.eternal-legend.com/img/chocoweap.jpg

[Bread and Faxes]

do what? Chocobo Weapon?

Explain plz.


nvm, lies.

[Chrysostom]

See the picture I attached.

[Bread and Faxes]

LIES LIES LIES

slander.

[Chrysostom]

LIES LIES LIES

slander.

That's pretty much what I thought at first. I thought it might be a photoshop or some computer nerd with too much time on his hands, but apparently it's legit.

[Brew]

That reminds me, I stumbled across the existence of the Chocobo weapon in FFVII. Apparently it's the hardest enemy in the game. You have a 1/7777 chance of finding it randomly standing on any of the chocobo tracks across the world after you've beaten all the other weapons.

http://www.eternal-legend.com/img/chocoweap.jpg

:amaze:

[MAthiAS]

I feel like it wouldn't take 11 years after the game's release for me to find out about something like that.

[Mister_Che]

Hmm. I have very serious doubts about that. Probably a PC mod or something.

[Brew]

It looked like the PC version of the game in the screenshot.

[fatbandit]

Uh, Diamond weapon colour swap plus unconvincing chocobo parts = fail.

[Bread and Faxes]

true. I would feel like a goddamn idiot after spending 1000+ hours playing a game and not encountering that.

11 years of playing that game and I never saw it.

[Chrysostom]

Yeah, turns out it's fake. Apologies for getting you all interested in a chimera.

This is hilarious though:

Name: Chocobo Weapon
Type: Enraged chocobo
HP: 1
MP: 999/999
Strength:125
Defense: 125
Evasion: 125
Magic: 125
Magic Defense: 125
Speed: 100
Weapon: None
Weakness: None
Attacks: Chocobo Peck
Appearance: Attachment 19417

Other Info: Chocobo Weapon is invincible to all types of attacks and magic. It will only counter attack you 3 times when you try to inflict damage it. It will then proceed to escape. The only know way of defeating it is to obtain a Cheese Seed which may be obtained when "Cheese Weapon" is defeated. When the Chocobo Weapon is fed the Cheese Seed, it can be damaged, however its health rises to approximately a million health points. Upon defeat the Chocobo Weapon will drop a "chocobo medal" which enables the party to have an unlimited supply of Kentucky Fried Chocobos.

Location: It is found randomly near the chocobo stables, once the player has finished the White Materia Quest. There is a 1 in 5 chance of encountering the Chocobo Weapon.

[Kingofdudes]

wait, you guys actually thought that was real? :/

[Mister_Che]

Damnit, how did I know Cheese Weapon would be involved? :/

[Bread and Faxes]

wait, you guys actually thought that was real? :/

Well I never thought Chocobuckle existed for the longest time so I had to check.

[MrConeman]

I can't believe that fooled some of you, I mean God, it's just Diamond Weapon.

[Bread and Faxes]

Well when he posted the picture I KNEW it was fake. But I checked it out before he posted the pic.

[Brew]

The picture made me chuckle.

[Bread and Faxes]

I had the PC version :')

[Happy]

Man Chocobo weapon was hard to beat.

[Mister_Che]

PC version was kinda lame, what with the music being not as good.

[fatbandit]

Surely the music would be as good as your MIDI sounds? I mean I thought the Playstation General MIDI capability was pretty poop.

I'd love to hear those tracks with like... nice VSTs and stuff :)

[Bread and Faxes]

I had both. And liked the PS1 version better. Only cool thing about the PC version was the Jenova Editor.

[fingers mccoy]

holy **** the crisis core side missions get epic

i have two power suits, a brutal and that thing that makes you always do critical hits

i use mug on everyone and iron fist on those with massive defence so i do about 73k every hit

this is so much more payoff for your time than ffx was, this is awesome

has anyone got the heike soul yet? it's like the greatest item i've ever seen in a final fantasy game

[Brew]

I've got FFIV DS, w00t.

[fingers mccoy]

lol one hit kill on sephiroth

i was too ridiculously overprepared for nibelheim, encounters and boss battles alike are taking about 1 second to win

[Happy]

I love it when that happens though, you know all the work you put in has just paid off.

[fatbandit]

So I think even though I have an epic game of VII on the go at the moment, I may go buy FFIV DS today as well.

[Brew]

FFIV DS so far for me has been really good fun :)

[Happy]

I miss my FFIII :(

[fatbandit]

I'm just in the Underworld in FFIV DS at the moment, and its been pretty enjoyable. Though I'm sure I've missed an assload of augments :/

Just looked at the back of the case though - Rydia's pretty hot when she comes back ;p

[Anglachel]

When i played through it first, I thought id only put augments on my final team

but putting 2 augments on temporary party members means getting 3 more when they leave

so jah :(

theres also a bunch to find in towns and stuff and theres one in a hidden room in the dwarven castle >.>

[Brew]

I'm just in the Underworld in FFIV DS at the moment, and its been pretty enjoyable. Though I'm sure I've missed an assload of augments :/

Just looked at the back of the case though - Rydia's pretty hot when she comes back ;p

Same here, just got underground and shot down by the Red Wings.

I've probably missed loads of stuff aswell, ah well.

[fatbandit]

I'm trying not to resort to FAQs/walkthroughs for this game like I usually seem to, so I'm inevitably going to miss some majorly cool things. That's life, eh? Once I've completed it, I may use the New Game+ function to go back through with a walkthrough and do everything.

[Brew]

The only time I've checked a walkthrough so far is to work out how to beat the Dark Elf. Turns out I'd forgotten to go and see Edward...I would say it was annoying but I managed to grind a few levels into my characters with all the extra wandering around.

Speaking of grinding, I've not found it that bad at all yet.

[fatbandit]

I added 2/3 levels just before the tower of Babil, just so Rydia and Rosa didn't keep dying from that darned Scorch attack every round. But other than that, a little bit of strategy has kept me team alive :) Definitely seems easier than it was on the Playstation port.

Saying that though, I haven't finished the tower of Babil yet, so we shall see!

[fingers mccoy]

so i pretty much can't die now. i have completely destroyed crisis core. i have max stats, and an item that:

o Breaks the HP, MP, AP, and Damage Limit
o Adds Sudden Death, Poison, Silence, Stop and Stun to 'Fight' command
(and adds them to some other physical techniques as well)
o Absorbs All Elements
o Gives auto-Potion
o Increases Drop Rates for enemies
o Guarantees the success of an attempted steal
o Guarantees rarity of dropped or stolen items
o Doubles Gil, Item/Materia from enemies
o Increases the potency of restorative items
o Doubles Magic
o Gives auto-Libra
o Gives SP Master Level 1 (spend SP to increase damage done and reduce damage taken)



...




:lol:

[Happy]

I think I did something like that with FFVII once.

[Brew]

I added 2/3 levels just before the tower of Babil, just so Rydia and Rosa didn't keep dying from that darned Scorch attack every round. But other than that, a little bit of strategy has kept me team alive :) Definitely seems easier than it was on the Playstation port.

Saying that though, I haven't finished the tower of Babil yet, so we shall see!

I got owned hard in my first battle inside the tower of Babil which I found amusing. Second time round wasn't so bad but Dr.Lugae beat me pretty swiftly. I'll probably have another stab at it later on today.

[Phalanx]

So yeah, I think i'm going to do one of those FFVIII playthroughs where you don't level up at all on my PSP. Good idea?

[Happy]

Enemies and bosses in VIII leveled up with your party. Could be interesting, I'd like to do it.

[fatbandit]

I'm pretty much at the end game stage before the final dungeon with this now. Its not been impossible, and it hasn't been easy. I'd say its a good diffculty level all round, with no uber weapons to ruin it (though now I have Kain with Darkness and Jump, things may change ;p). Certainly seems easier than when I had it on the playstation and gave up on it though. A lot of the bosses need good strategies, and you can't get through them by just using attack with everyone. I like this. Status effects also play a big part in boss battles I've found.

Rare items are rare though -_-

I got owned hard in my first battle inside the tower of Babil which I found amusing. Second time round wasn't so bad but Dr.Lugae beat me pretty swiftly. I'll probably have another stab at it later on today.

[Bread and Faxes]

In the tower of zot they have those annoying Ice Dog things that can kill you pretty quickly.

[fatbandit]

Yeah, I spammed anything icy with Fira spells and then won. Pretty much.

I've heard a lot about how good the plot is in 4, and how it is a classic story. But to be honest, it just seems... okay. With some predictable twists, and some frankly ridiculous parts (Lunar Whale... uh yeah). Still enjoyed playing it though :)

[Bread and Faxes]

I agree.

V had a much better story.

[Brew]

Yeah, I spammed anything icy with Fira spells and then won. Pretty much.

I've heard a lot about how good the plot is in 4, and how it is a classic story. But to be honest, it just seems... okay. With some predictable twists, and some frankly ridiculous parts (Lunar Whale... uh yeah). Still enjoyed playing it though :)

I wonder what the guys at Squaresoft were smoking and/or drinking when they came up with the idea of travelling to the moon using a whale.

[MAthiAS]

So yeah, I think i'm going to do one of those FFVIII playthroughs where you don't level up at all on my PSP. Good idea?
It actually makes the game easier for the most part but is far more fun cuz you don't waste all that time leveling.

[fatbandit]

V had a better story, yes, and at the risk of sounding fanboyish, VII did too. I like to think I have some perspective on the issue of VII being 'best game evarrr lolz'.

And yeah, in VIII, junctioning and staying at low levels keeps you WAY ahead of the game for most of it. Try it and let us know how you get on :)

[fingers mccoy]

yeh the battles in a level 1 game can be perfectly easy, it's getting ap while avoiding gaining levels that is the hard part

[Happy]

You must get enough from the bosses.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh idk i remember doing a no level up game ages ago and turning a lot of enemies into cards for the ap

mainly so i could get enc-none and card mod early on i seem to remember

but that's probably not the most efficient way of doing it

there's a good guide for getting ridiculously high stats on gamefaqs which i imagine entails getting no level-ups too, called the 'power-up guide'

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/197343/4930

[Mister_Che]

I started playing FFVIII again. Oh, the memories.

Also:

http://timelesshourglass.com/James/TGS/tgs5.jpg

This is the game someone (I think it might have been me, actually) mentioned a few months back. The FF fighting game we've all wanted. Looks like they went purely main good guy/main bad guy from each game.

[Bread and Faxes]

yeah I don't see cloud or sephiroth. But that makes sense since they were in a ps1 fighting game.

[Mister_Che]

I'm sure they're in it. I don't see why they'd be the one FF that was left out. Besides, Ehrgeiz was lame.

[Brew]

Cloud and Sephiroth are both in it.

Infact the full line up for the game is...



The complete roster to date is quite impressive; there's no word on whether or not villains will be playable, but at the very least players will have a full ten heroes to choose from. (Or more, if Cosmos is playable somehow.)

* Final Fantasy: The Warrior of Light squares off against Garland. The Warrior's skills don't seem particularly unique, but hopefully will be sufficient to avoid being knocked down.
* Final Fantasy II: Firion battles the effeminate Emperor. Little has been seen of Firion's skills.
* Final Fantasy III: An Onion Knight stands in opposition to the Cloud of Darkness, who despite the name actually looks like a very sexy pale woman. Onion Knights were the first FF heroes to offer flexible job class changes, and the Dissidia version embodies this characteristic by changing to different classes on the fly during combat.
* Final Fantasy IV: Cecil Harvey and his brother Golbez face off. Cecil's story involved his shedding the rainments of a Dark Knight to become a holy Paladin, but he's a little more ambivalent here: Cecil can freely alternate between the two classes. But then, Golbez wasn't even really the bad guy from FFIV. So much for authenticity! Expect impotent message board nerd rage aplenty.
* Final Fantasy V: The special abilities with which Bartz Clauser fights Exdeath (in knight regalia, not the evil space tree version) haven't been shown, but given that FFV is famous for its fantastic job system expect some of class-switching to be available.
* Final Fantasy VI: Terra Branford has to go it alone against insane clown god Kefka Palazzo, but in keeping with her half-Esper heritage she's able to transform into a furry pink super-critter during combat.
* Final Fantasy VII: Cloud Strife and Sephiroth go at it, again, locked forever in mortal combat. (Which, as millions of fanfiction authors are aware, secretly symbolizes their forbidden love for one another.)
* Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Leonheart kounters the time-kompressing sorceress Ultimecia in kombat.
* Final Fantasy IX: Zidane Tribale's opposite number is the girlish Kuja. Surprisingly, despite Kuja's sexless androgyny, Zidane's Japanese voice actor sounds more feminine. Go figure.
* Final Fantasy X: Tidus is forced to fight his father, Jecht. Of course, Jecht wasn't really evil in FFX, but at least his siding with Chaos will give Tidus something to be angsty about.

[Chrysostom]

Dissidia eh? What platforms is it coming out for?

[Brew]

Psp

[Phalanx]

This is the game someone (I think it might have been me, actually) mentioned a few months back. The FF fighting game we've all wanted. Looks like they went purely main good guy/main bad guy from each game.

Yeah, Final Fantasy Dissidia.

I'll probably pirate it.

[Chrysostom]

Psp

Damn it.

[bringonthebreakdown]

I started playing FFVIII again. Oh, the memories.

Also:

http://timelesshourglass.com/James/TGS/tgs5.jpg

This is the game someone (I think it might have been me, actually) mentioned a few months back. The FF fighting game we've all wanted. Looks like they went purely main good guy/main bad guy from each game.

looks interesting. anyone remember Ergheiz? i still have a copy and i could ebay that **** for like 200 dollars.

[Jim]

oh man i'm gettin my brother to buy this (he has a psp)

[Happy]

Sounds like an awesome game :D

[Liberi Fatali]

I'm considering getting a PSP for it. Just worried I won't be able to find much outside of Crisis Core and maybe the Wipeout games to find worthy of buying.

[Jim]

there's surprisingly quite a few good titles on psp if you wade through the mediocrity

syphon filter, ratchet and clank, echochrome, patapon etc. and classic psone games you can buy from the playstation store

[Happy]

Sega classics is pretty decent too.
I just don't have the money to buy any games :P

[Jim]

yeah some of them new releases can really hit the old sky rocket

i just play my brother's games :smoke:

[Happy]

/Cursed with Sisters that don't like good games :(

[Liberi Fatali]

Maybe I'll add it to my to get list then after LittleBigPlanet.

Then again a DS is tempting too, and it has Happy Cooking on it!

[Happy]

Get both like me :)

Have to say PSP has better games, the DS' novelty wears off quickly.

[Phalanx]

PSP has the entire back catalogue of PSone, SNES, Megadrive, NES, blah blah blah.

It has no actual games however really.

DS has lots of great games and is very cheap because of the flashcart.

I'm fortunate enough to own both, I currently play old Point and Click adventure games on my PSP using ScummVM and it works great.

[Happy]

I can't really name that many great games on the DS :-/

[Phalanx]

I can't really name that many great games on the DS :-/

Here's a good start

http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsgamesjx1.jpg

[team_racket]

There are loads of great games on DS. Im still caning Bangai-O a month on. Chrono Trigger DS needs to hury up though.

[Anglachel]

You dont really expect much of a lot of DS games until you play them


also phalanx your link takes forever to load so im going to assume its this:

http://i37.tinypic.com/205b1o2.jpg

[Brew]

The DS is pretty fun but I rarely have enough money to spend on new games.

I still need to get back into FFIV, its been ages since I last played it.

[MAthiAS]

Is there any difference between the SNES version of IV and the DS version?

Also FFTA is on DS correct? Isn't there another Tactics game too? Are there emulators for DS? Cuz I really want to play those games.

[The Transporter]

Feel the Magic looks like the best game ever judging by its cover

[Phalanx]

it was the even more up to date list than that actually but sucks that it doesn't work :(

[Brew]

Is there any difference between the SNES version of IV and the DS version?

Also FFTA is on DS correct? Isn't there another Tactics game too? Are there emulators for DS? Cuz I really want to play those games.

FFIV on the DS is in full 3D, has an updated script, some voice acting in important scenes, a new 'augment' system which lets you place abilities on characters from dead characters (for example when the twins turn to stone you can put 'twincast' on two characters and they can then use it for the rest of the game), the difficulty is increased meaning more level grinding and...a new dungeon (like with all Squenix remakes).

Well worth playing.

[Anglachel]

it was the even more up to date list than that actually but sucks that it doesn't work :(
tinypic it! I must download!

Is there any difference between the SNES version of IV and the DS version?

Also FFTA is on DS correct? Isn't there another Tactics game too? Are there emulators for DS? Cuz I really want to play those games.

No$GBA is a ds emulator that works

FFTA2 on DS is mad fun but the story was lacking

[PayneTiger777]

The only FF games I played were FF7, FF8, FF10, and FF12. It took me 66 hours to beat FF12 and I was only at level 45 when I completed it. 8 had some fun moments to it, but 7 will always be the best :)

[Jim]

i got a fair way onto XII (probably about 3/4), but stopped playing to play a new game. it's always hard to get back into a FF game when you've been away from it for a while :(

[Happy]

Especially XII.
I can't get back into it :(

[Brew]

I had XII for about 2 weeks then traded it in.

Really couldn't get into it, I might give it another go sometime soon though.

[Jim]

the story was ok, and i guess the new battle system was interesting for a while, and i had full intention of seeing it through

but i just can't be bothered picking it back up :P

[Chrysostom]

FFXII is great. I'm on my first play through now. I'm quite close to the end to judge from the small number of new locations I've got left to go to. I'm 172 hours in with all characters in the low or mid 60s. Currently attempting to get the necessary items for making the Tournesol, which has been a remarkably painless process. Still have a whole lot of side quests, hunts, new areas in old locations and optional bosses to attempt, so it wouldn't surprise me if I don't break 200 hours.

[MAthiAS]

I got like 1/3 of the way through XII and got bored. I might play through the whole thing at Christmas though.

I'm thinking of buying a PSP so I can play War of the Lions and Crisis Core. Good idea?

[Phalanx]

I'm thinking of buying a PSP so I can play War of the Lions and Crisis Core. Good idea?

Not a bad idea. Don't forget being able to play all the previous FFs (excluding X, XI and XII) on the move as well - main reason I have a PSP.

[Mister_Che]

How do you play FFXI on PSP?

[fatbandit]

How do you play FFXI on PSP?
Read plz.


I really want to play Vagrant Story again, but I can't find it. I was too young to understand the weapon affinities properly when I played it first time, and ended up getting myself stuck because all my weapons were poopty.

[Collis]

FFXII is pretty cool actually. I'm 45 hours through at the minute and am on the way to Ridorina ... am I pretty close to the end?

Hunts and espers are fun to chase after as well *SPOILER* I love the little Ba'Gamnan hunt story.

[Mister_Che]

Read plz.

Ah.

[Chrysostom]

I'm 45 hours through at the minute and am on the way to Ridorina ... am I pretty close to the end?

It took me 66 hours to beat FF12

Ooookaaay...how the hell have I managed to rack up 172 hours? And I think you're very close to the end, Collis.

[Collis]

Haha 172 hours is unbelievable. Well, I haven't done all the hunts and espers yet. And I haven't done any other sidequests... (If there are any)

But even so, 172 hours is crazy. When I do rack up everything I think I'd only be up to 60ish.

Good work. Maybe you left the PS2 on pause for a very long time. Hehe.

[PayneTiger777]

172 hours? Holy ****! Well you probably did like all the side quests and got at really high levels and got all the best weapons or some ****. I didn't do many side quests so I just moved on with the story and trained for most of the time. I was a bit disappointed in the story for FF12. I mean it was ok but I would have liked to have had cooler characters and a more in depth storyline for the main character. There were a lot of difficult boss fights and I was expecting the last boss to be really really hard, but instead it was way too easy and very disappointing even for a level 45 character.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh most people probably didnt methodically work through the hunts

the only reason my game exceeded 60 hours was cause i did the negalmuur trick overnight, got to about level 80

mathias, crisis core is awesome

i would advise that you work through the missions properly on a second playthrough, because while it's awesome to have the heike soul and be absolutely invincible and basically break a particular set piece at the end, it kinda ruins the sense of narrative being able to kill the last boss in three consecutive hits.

[Happy]

I'm working through the hunts, one by one.
Well I was last time I played.

[kingsoby1]

Anyone play through FFIV for DS yet? It's like a billion times harder than the original ff2 for snes, and the graphics are sick.

[Chrysostom]

yeh most people probably didnt methodically work through the hunts

That might explain my 172 hours - it'll be a mix of methodically working through hunts, optional bosses, trophy monsters, collecting the items necessary for the best weapons, levelling up the characters, and finally actually progressing with the storyline.

[Phalanx]

I just tried the octopus again on FFIV DS - and for ****'s sake, I still can't beat him. Should I start grinding already?

[spitfirejunky]

Read plz.


I really want to play Vagrant Story again, but I can't find it. I was too young to understand the weapon affinities properly when I played it first time, and ended up getting myself stuck because all my weapons were poopty.

OMG do it. Not enough people play that game.

[fatbandit]

I wasn't sure of how hard FFIV DS is compared to other versions, but I found it harder in some bits and easier in others than the PS port I had of it. It requires you to think, and actually use the strengths/abilities of each character intelligently, unlike some later games which just involve bashing the circle button to attack. And Slow works in just about every boss fight. Use it lots.

That octomammoth is a pain in the arse, but I think what you need to do is just make sure that when his attack power increases on the last 2/3 tentacles, you make sure you keep up a strong attack to take him down quickly, because you can't keep up with his attacks with the weak healing abilities you have. Might take a few tries, but you'll get it :)

[kingsoby1]

Still though, you have to grind a decent amount in any open area to be prepared for any boss. I blasted the f*ck out of the octomammoth with the twin attack like 2 or 3 times. I'm going back to the Baron castle dungeon though... way too weak to beat the water fiend :-/

[Brew]

Its all about working out the best strategy for each boss battle in FFIV and if you keep up with your levels as you go along you should be alright.

[kingsoby1]

too bad i cant just cast invisi on him and then death :(

[Brew]

That'd be too easy :p

[kingsoby1]

yah good thing they took it out for the re-releases of ff3/6. that was the stupidest bug ever.

[Anglachel]

the octomammoth isnt bad once you can get through that dungeon without four tiny mages appearing and raping you

those little shits always attacked first :(

[Volkert314]

Holy crap this Thread is still around:confused:

Yeah Off topic, but still I'm surprised...

[Bread and Faxes]

you guys must not train very much.

[Brew]

Holy crap this Thread is still around:confused:

Yeah Off topic, but still I'm surprised...

Of course its still around.

Its one of 2 threads that I actually post in these days.

//

So what does everyone think about FFXIII coming out on the Xbox 360? Its almost swinging me towards getting one rather than a PS3...

Edit: Bread and Faxes...weren't you a mod like, 2 weeks ago or something? What happened?

[MAthiAS]

So what does everyone think about FFXIII coming out on the Xbox 360? Its almost swinging me towards getting one rather than a PS3...
I'm cool with it... maybe I'll get lucky next year and have a roommate with one of those systems so I can play it. I can't really justify dropping a few hundred bucks on a console when the only games I want to play are MGS4 and new FFs.

[Volkert314]

Of course its still around.

Its one of 2 threads that I actually post in these days.

//

So what does everyone think about FFXIII coming out on the Xbox 360? Its almost swinging me towards getting one rather than a PS3...

Edit: Bread and Faxes...weren't you a mod like, 2 weeks ago or something? What happened?

I didn't think it would still be around, call me shocked.

Anyway, I already own a PS3, so I'm not to worried about it, but I guess I would have to say that I'm dissapointed since FF was one of few non-ports to other consoles, well minus the ones on Nintendo's systems.

[fatbandit]

FFIV didn't need any grinding on my part. I didn't grind except for the battles I would regularly face going through a plot related dungeon trawl. Granted, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm pretty much at the 'beef up your party before the final dungeon' stage of the game I think.

And I want a PS3, but only for MGS4 at the moment. A PSP would be nice for a couple of things. But FFXIII looks like a real departure from the FF games I've really loved over the years. I'm not sure I'm that interested in it :/

[Bread and Faxes]

Of course its still around.

Its one of 2 threads that I actually post in these days.

//

So what does everyone think about FFXIII coming out on the Xbox 360? Its almost swinging me towards getting one rather than a PS3...

Edit: Bread and Faxes...weren't you a mod like, 2 weeks ago or something? What happened?

Demodded. My moderation was only a joke though I did pretty well while it lasted.

[Brew]

Demodded. My moderation was only a joke though I did pretty well while it lasted.

Ahh, righty'ho.

//

I want a PS3 but the only games I'm really interested in for it are MGS4 and Little Big Planet. Everything else seems to be coming to the 360 (FFXIII, Tekken 6...)

I guess I'll see how much money I have around the time of my 21st birthday which is in about 5 months time.

[fatbandit]

I think that's a good bet. I'm firmly in the camp of buying consoles when they are slashed to a quarter of their original price and the stupid hype has died down from games enough to be able to judge them on their own merit.

[Meatplow]

I've been hammering FFX trying to finish it, i've just made it to the mountain after the calmlands (quite a breathtaking cutscene). Just fought the Ronso on the mountain, that was an annoying battle cause I hardly levelled Kimahri up but I managed. I need some kind of dispel spell or something, mighty guard is really ****ing me up.

I've come to the conclusion the story is excellent on it's own merits but the horrendous voice acting and dubbing goes a long way to making it a very painful game, I dread the cut-scenes esp. when other people are in the room :(

[Jim]

the voice acting was atrocious. kind of unforgivable for it's generation, but yes the story makes up for it imo

i always remembered the calmlands as sort of the halfway point of the game. unless i just really took my time after that point :lol:

[Happy]

I had FFX on mute a lot.

[Phalanx]

I loved all the side stuff in FFX more than the actual main quest.

The monster arena and maxing the stats of all your characters, killing the dark aeons and optimizing your team was the most fun I've had in most RPGs.

[Chrysostom]

So what does everyone think about FFXIII coming out on the Xbox 360?

Despite what I keep telling myself, I'm bothered by this. As a PS owner, I liked having the FF series to myself, as it were.

Its almost swinging me towards getting one rather than a PS3...

I'm an inveterate Sony fanboy and proud of it, so no 360s for me. There isn't anything which could make me buy one.

[PayneTiger777]

Or you could have both PS3 and 360 like I do :). PS3 is better though because my 360 pisses me off with the red ring of death.

[Brew]

I can't afford both :(

[PayneTiger777]

Come on Brew, you're the same age as me. You must have a job and be able to use your paychecks for the stuff that can waste your life away such as videogames.

[Brew]

I'm a student.

A poor student. I've got job interviews coming up though :cool:

[Liberi Fatali]

I had FFX on mute a lot.
Muting Nobuo? :angry:

[Jim]

the voice acting was that bad

[guitrguy]

the incessant "you know"s killed me.

[Brew]

HAHA HAHA HA HA HAAH HAHA

'nuff said.

[Happy]

Muting Nobuo? :angry:

More the voice acting, although he wasn't at his greatest in X

[Mister_Che]

So just for the hell of it I looked at the guides for FFVIII on the FF wiki. They're all pretty damn terrible. I think I could write up a pretty good guide if I actually sat down and tried.

[kingsoby1]

The voice acting wasn't too bad... and was pretty revolutionary when FFX came out (not many other RPGs did it).

@ the students above: good luck finding time to play video games once you have real things to worry about after school... I barely have time to play my DS :(

[Happy]

I will sacrifice my job for games.

[kingsoby1]

Well, it's not as clear cut as that. Juggling work, friends, significant other, family, and your own apt/house is difficult. It's hard to find time for yourself, unless you have no friends or significant other. I struggle with reviewing albums when I say I'm going to, b/c I seriously just dont have the time.

When I get time, I'm definitely going to play FFXII... looks sick, albeit a bit odd.

[Brew]

I'm going to be an artist, so will have plenty of time for video games and whatnot if all goes well.

[kingsoby1]

Good plan.

[Brew]

http://www.redbubble.com/people/Brew

/shameless whoring of some of my better work

[Chrysostom]

the students above: good luck finding time to play video games once you have real things to worry about after school... I barely have time to play my DS :(

Well, it's not as clear cut as that. Juggling work, friends, significant other, family, and your own apt/house is difficult. It's hard to find time for yourself, unless you have no friends or significant other. I struggle with reviewing albums when I say I'm going to, b/c I seriously just dont have the time.

I've been thinking (read: worrying) about this recently. I'm about to collide with the real world and all it's responsibilities, and I'm worried that my days of harcore gaming might be numbered. I fear that life might get so busy that I won't ever again have the time to really delve deep into RPGs and other similarly involved game genres. With FFVII and VIII I used to spend 3, 4 and 5 hours a night just getting really into them. I may have to settle for more casual doses of gaming on first person shooters and action games/platformers etc. It's even got to the point where I'm wondering whether I should even bother buying FFXIII. The gap between sessions might get so large that I forget where I'm up to, what I was planning to do next, what levels my characters are at and what they're eqiupped, all of which will prompt me to start the game fresh only to encounter the same problem, start the game again and never actually finish it. It's all very depressing and I hate being an adult. :(

/sulks

[fatbandit]

Yeah, I've all but stopped playing the games of FFIV DS and FFVII I have on the go. I always get like that with FF games, right before the end. i don't want them to finish, so I just don't finish them ;/

[fingers mccoy]

I've been thinking (read: worrying) about this recently. I'm about to collide with the real world and all it's responsibilities, and I'm worried that my days of harcore gaming might be numbered. I fear that life might get so busy that I won't ever again have the time to really delve deep into RPGs and other similarly involved game genres. With FFVII and VIII I used to spend 3, 4 and 5 hours a night just getting really into them. I may have to settle for more casual doses of gaming on first person shooters and action games/platformers etc. It's even got to the point where I'm wondering whether I should even bother buying FFXIII. The gap between sessions might get so large that I forget where I'm up to, what I was planning to do next, what levels my characters are at and what they're eqiupped, all of which will prompt me to start the game fresh only to encounter the same problem, start the game again and never actually finish it. It's all very depressing and I hate being an adult. :(

/sulks


:lol:

that'll be a choice

you will not want both lifestyles

[Happy]

I fear for my life the same way Chrysostom.

[spitfirejunky]

Am I the only one who'll actually have more free time when I graduate?

[Happy]

Yes.
My time at university will be spent working or seeing my girlfriend. I'll probably get a day off once in a while.

[Chrysostom]

I fear for my life the same way Chrysostom.

/manly consolation hugs (with silent manly tears).

[kingsoby1]

spitfire -- I thought I'd have more free time too, hah. I had a really demanding degree (aero engr) and was ridiculously excited to get a big tv and play all the video games i didn't have time to play. i dont do that, but i definitely enjoy my life.

[Meatplow]

the voice acting was atrocious. kind of unforgivable for it's generation, but yes the story makes up for it imo

i always remembered the calmlands as sort of the halfway point of the game. unless i just really took my time after that point :lol:

i'm up to yunalesca now her instant death to everyone in the party spell with her third phase is killing me (literally), i need some death ward something

these bosses in X are ridiculously easy, I haven't spent that much time levelling up but i'm plowing through most of them and seymour on the mountain was the only one that gave me a bit of trouble but i got it third go

also is FFX-2 an improvement in terms of voice acting i'm curious?

[Mister_Che]

The laughing scene is even worse in the Japanese version. And ditto on the Calmlands being the halfway point. That's precisely how I felt every time I ended up there.

[Meatplow]

it feels fairly late in the game to me, is there a lot more to do?

i just got the airship kind of bewildered with it. anywhere i can go for intensive training?

[Brew]

If my memory is on form then the Omega Cave is a good place to train.

[Mister_Che]

Yep, pretty easy to get killed there too. Also sports the weakest Omega and Ultima Weapons in all of Final Fantasy.

[Meatplow]

omega weapon in FFVIII was quite a challenge I remember

[Mister_Che]

Yep. I wrote up a strategy for him for some other user on here. I've beaten him before. Took quite some time to prepare for him.

[spitfirejunky]

Omega Weapon is only easy if you spam 24+ Quick Hits before Omega Weapon even makes a move.

But getting there takes a hell lot of time especially when you're catching Tonberries.

[fingers mccoy]

i'm up to yunalesca now her instant death to everyone in the party spell with her third phase is killing me (literally), i need some death ward something

these bosses in X are ridiculously easy, I haven't spent that much time levelling up but i'm plowing through most of them and seymour on the mountain was the only one that gave me a bit of trouble but i got it third go

also is FFX-2 an improvement in terms of voice acting i'm curious?

predict when she's gonna do that then get an aeon out

[Mister_Che]

Omega Weapon is only easy if you spam 24+ Quick Hits before Omega Weapon even makes a move.

But getting there takes a hell lot of time especially when you're catching Tonberries.

I thought he was easy even without quick hit, but I do agree with you on the time spent just getting to him. The journey is even harder than the fight.

[fatbandit]

Meh, I killed those zombie soldiers in Zanarkand and used the spoils for Zombieproof armour for Auron. That took care of Yunalesca, basically.

[fingers mccoy]

xii was like the only final fantasy that was hard

maybe iv was, but mainly because it demanded so much levelling up

also ix is hard if you wanna like ACE it. i should know.

[Phalanx]

xii was like the only final fantasy that was hard

maybe iv was, but mainly because it demanded so much levelling up

also ix is hard if you wanna like ACE it. i should know.

I'd say your statement is 100% true.

[Happy]

How is XII hard at all? Apart from that dragon thing.

[Phalanx]

How is XII hard at all? Apart from that dragon thing.

it's so bad it's a challenge to force yourself to play it.

[Happy]

Lol, I found it better than X, but its not hard at all in terms of bosses.

[fingers mccoy]

lol no

just quite a bit of effort if you dont wanna grind

varied attack patterns and a pseudo-real-time setting

status effects can be crippling

and i only found a couple of the bosses hard, the dungeons were harder bits i thought, and the sidequests

[Phalanx]

Tbh, I found it hard, I don't usually get stuck in FF games (though currently, IV is really pissing me off - yes, i still can't beat that octopus) but some dragon in this jungle bit was particularly difficult for me and I grinded loads.

[fingers mccoy]

i didnt grind until i got to do the negalmuur trick

then i got to like level 80 and rushed through the rest of the game

i should play it at christmas and beat the really big boss you know yazmat or something

[Meatplow]

predict when she's gonna do that then get an aeon out

good idea in retrospect but she used a move that zombiefied everyone i just left 1 person in that state in case she used it. after that it was easy

i've finished the game now, the last couple of battles were frustrating esp. the last

Yep. I wrote up a strategy for him for some other user on here. I've beaten him before. Took quite some time to prepare for him.

Yeah i've beaten him as well, it was challenging from what I remember. A lot of leaving Squall at low health levels so I could use Renzokuken again and again, thats how I beat most of the bosses tbh

[kingsoby1]

did anyone get addicted to ffx blitzball? god i played that way too long... managed to get a ton of awesome bling spheres and got ultima/ doublecast for most of my party.

also, id appreciate some recommendations... im a hardcore Atlus fan and considering continuing the DDS series when I get the time (of which you should all play, along with the persona series) -- what FF should I play if I choose one? I still need to play 8, 10-2, and 12.

[Mister_Che]

Yeah i've beaten him as well, it was challenging from what I remember. A lot of leaving Squall at low health levels so I could use Renzokuken again and again, thats how I beat most of the bosses tbh

I just Aura'd everyone in the party, used a Holy War, then went to town on him. High Luck junction on Squall to activate his finishing move, same with Zell to hit 12 seconds on the Duel counter, and everything junctioned on Rinoa except Meteor so she spams that while she uses Angel wing.

did anyone get addicted to ffx blitzball? god i played that way too long... managed to get a ton of awesome bling spheres and got ultima/ doublecast for most of my party.

I understand the hate it gets, but I loved it.

[Happy]

I liked Blitzball, but I prefered cards.

[fingers mccoy]

yah che that meteor angel trick is well good especially if rinoa's well strong and fast

i would recommend playing 12 cause it's great and shows where the series is going but it divides fans a lot

[faxes]

I tried and tried and tried to beat Omega. We had the same party too. But I couldn't do it. I had everything, all the GF's all the limits and ultimate weapons. I just couldn't do it.

[Happy]

I can't even remember if I beat Omega, I'll have to load up VIII and take a look.

Though I do feel like going through every FF from VII again. I wish I had more time to do it.

[fingers mccoy]

if you cant do that then:

cast aura on selphie
schedule someone to begin casting a spell then bring up selphie's slot menu
open the disc tray while the person earlier in the queue is just about to start casting
do over until you get 'the end'
use the end
the end
fin

[Happy]

The End was so random.

[Mister_Che]

I've only ever gotten it to show up once in maybe four play-throughs. I always had Zell, Squall and Rinoa. Everything had to go off before Terra Break or it was an almost guaranteed loss.

[faxes]

I had it show up once as well.

[Happy]

I've never encountered it before in normal gameplay. I got it to show up by useing an action replay.

[Brew]

I vaguely remember beating Ultima weapon in VIII but not Omega.

I got addicted to the card games in VIII and IX and also Blitzball once I got reasonably good at it.

[faxes]

I couldn't do anything with the Card games :/

[HighandDriving]

I vaguely remember beating Ultima weapon in VIII but not Omega.

I got addicted to the card games in VIII and IX and also Blitzball once I got reasonably good at it.

Blitzball could have been way better but the card game was fuc king sick.

I loved trying to collect those cards, it was as addictive as pokemon.

[Happy]

I couldn't do anything with the Card games :/

They were really easy though.

[Chrysostom]

How is XII hard at all? Apart from that dragon thing.

A few of the bosses are tricky if you don't know what you're doing. I found that guy with the huge sword who is one your team for a while and then turns on you on the leviathan quite difficult actually.

And FFXII has been the only FF I've played where status effects have been genuinely annoying, Confuse especially. Several times a character has raped another while confused and equipped with a beasty sword like Ultima Blade.

[Happy]

I dunno, I found them all easy, but then again its probably because I'd levelled up quite a bit between bosses because I found it fun to clear areas of enemies.

[kingsoby1]

That's good to hear... I like it when rpgs at least attempt to be challenging. Status effects are easily ignored in most FFs.

[Happy]

Marlboros in VIII were awful. One bad breath and you were screwed. Or that could've just been my lack of understanding of how to prevent status effects as a kid.

[Mister_Che]

They were a nightmare on Island Closest to Heaven/Hell. They were fast and almost always opened up with Bad Breath and it still had a high rate of sticking to you.

Again, that may also have been due to my lack of understanding of how to prevent status effects as a kid. :)

[Happy]

Junctioning was too hard to get my head around when I was 8/9.

[Mister_Che]

I figured out basic stuff like 100 Death to Atk-J, but I never had enough Esuna to guard effectively against status effects.

[Happy]

Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I junctioned like 100 Curagas to HP-J

[Mister_Che]

Ha, that's what I've got right now approaching the end of the first disc.

[fingers mccoy]

you guys have to play crisis core

the feeling of power

[Happy]

Ha, that's what I've got right now approaching the end of the first disc.

Good plan but it sucks when you have to use those Curagas :p

[fingers mccoy]

you dont ever have to if you have curas and a high magic stat

or if you have selphie and aura

last time i played that game i had 100 firagas, thundagas, curagas and blizzagas by the time i left dollet :lol: and all my gfs had learnt all their abilities

and i had no level ups. apart from with seifer.

[Happy]

True but I never have Selphie in my main party.

[Meatplow]

last time i played that game i had 100 firagas, thundagas, curagas and blizzagas by the time i left dollet :lol: and all my gfs had learnt all their abilities

and i had no level ups. apart from with seifer.

did you card a lot of fish? lol