The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[Bread and Faxes]

This is a 4 disc soundtrack and everything printed on it is in Japanese.

[Anglachel]

Square-Enix has officially announced a North American release for July 22, 2008.

That on the FF4 DS remake. This will make an awesome birthday present :]

[FatalEnergy]

Why didn't they rerelease FFIII?

[Anglachel]

for the DS?
they did

[jrowa001]

i love when i start playing FF games but then school starts back up and i have to energy to play them. so when i get another break i have completely forgot what i was doing and i dont feel like trying to catch myself back up

[Happy]

I'm nearly finished IX but I stopped playing months ago and now I have no idea what I've done and what needs doing :(

[Brew]

I'm keep nearing the end of FFIII, then keep getting beaten by Cerberus :(

[Happy]

I think I finished it. That was another one I stopped playing months ago.

[Brew]

I managed to beat Cerberus once, but then got beaten by the final boss.

I'll nail it eventually, I bought The Legend of Zelda the other day so thats sat in my DS's GBA slot keeping me amused for the time being.

[Bread and Faxes]

How good is III? Isn't it on Nintendo DS?

[Brew]

Final Fantasy III DS is a modern version of an old school challenging JRPG, and I've fully enjoyed playing it. If you have a DS, its worth picking up. I even bought my DS specifically for FFIII.

The lack of save points used to annoy me, but if they were included it would take away from the challenge, much like the Dawn of Souls version of FFI lost alot of its challenge by gaining the MP system.

[Bread and Faxes]

Well, I don't have a DS.

But I'm wondering which is worth what.

PSP = Crisis Core
DS = Final Fantasy III

[Brew]

Depends what kind of Final Fantasy experience you're after...Final Fantasy IV DS is getting its US translation soon so thats another incentive to get a DS.

But if you want to further the FFVII experience then a PSP is the way to go.

[Bread and Faxes]

Final Fantasy IV for DS? Is that going to be the same one with Cecil and Kane?

[Anglachel]

Final Fantasy IV for DS? Is that going to be the same one with Cecil and Kane?
Yesyesyes

If you look up the page, you'll notice the wiki quote in my post :-\

[Brew]

Final Fantasy IV for DS? Is that going to be the same one with Cecil and Kane?

Yep, with voice acting, 3D graphics and the usual Squenix add-ons like a new dungeon. I think it'll contain the new dungeon added to FFIV Advance aswell.

[Anglachel]

Wich dungeon in IV advance? The one with weapons for all the characters or lunar ruins?

Lunar Ruins will be there, not the other though, because characters will stay dead in this game.

[Brew]

Ahh, probably only the Lunar Ruins dungeon then.

Having a dungeon full of weapons for dead characters wouldn't be a good idea...

[MAthiAS]

Damn I can't wait for DS and PSP emulators.

[Brew]

I thought DS emulators already existed? Or am I getting them confused with DS emulators that only work on a DS via an R4 or something...

[Anglachel]

DS emulators exist, theyre just all not "completed" i guess


EDIT: Once characters leave your party for good, you gain their abilities, like getting job abilities in FFV. Thats to replace using different characters in the end of IV Advance.

Thats what wiki says anywho

[Brew]

Aye, I've read that you can decant the abilities from a dead character to a living character, but you can't change them once they've been decanted.

[Happy]

Sounds confusing.

[Timm]

is it worth getting a psp only to play FFVII CC ?
someone in here should have played it already I guess?

[fingers mccoy]

oh **** is that out in the uk yet

[Brew]

I don't think CC is out over here yet.

FFIII is doing my head in. Argh.

[Bread and Faxes]

FFIV for DS sounds very cool!

[Happy]

Echleon has CC, I think it's an import though.

ECHLEON WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU?

[Timm]

ECHLEON! ECHLEON! ECHLEON! ECHLEON! ECHLEON!

[Happy]

I just looked on my last.fm where we were chatting he said its not out here but he still managed to obtain it.

[MrConeman]

The PSP is region free you can order and play the American version on U.K PSP's.

I'm waiting for it to come out here anyway though because I'm getting a PS3 first anyway.

[Happy]

I wish I could afford a PS3 :(

[Anglachel]

Also DS has the Chrystal Chronicals game if you like those so

I liked it, the voices arent great but better than FFX anyway :)


EDIT: But PSP is getting Tactics and the other 1 & 2 rereleases :-\

THE CHOICES

[Brew]

PSP has Tactics and the I & II re-releases over here.

You can also use the PSP to emulate a PS1 and play VII, VIII and IX.

[MrConeman]

I wish I could afford a PS3 :(

I quite literally got a job for the sole purpose of getting a PS3. I'm gunna keep at it though, having money is great.

For me it's not even a question of DS and PSP, it's weather to buy the PSP online or instore.

[Bread and Faxes]

I'd buy both if I had the money.

[Chrysostom]

I'm nearly finished IX but I stopped playing months ago and now I have no idea what I've done and what needs doing :(

I've done that with Dragon Quest. But at the 157 hour mark, I refuse to start all over again.

[Bread and Faxes]

Never was into Dragon Quest.

[MAthiAS]

I bought DQ8 and hated it.

[Anglachel]

PSP has Tactics and the I & II re-releases over here.

You can also use the PSP to emulate a PS1 and play VII, VIII and IX.
Right, right.


I quite literally got a job for the sole purpose of getting a PS3. I'm gunna keep at it though, having money is great.

For me it's not even a question of DS and PSP, it's weather to buy the PSP online or instore.

Of course, the psp wont play the GBA games >.>

/is playing V Advance

[Brew]

Being able to play GBA games on the DS is another reason why I bought one.

Thing is though, you can probably use the PSP to emulate a GBA.

[Happy]

That involves messing around with the psp and I can't be bothered to do that :p

[Brew]

Aye.

I prefer owning real games aswell, I seem to enjoy them more if I can look at the box art or flick through manual before or after playing.

[Happy]

Yeah same here, I prefer everything to be legit if possible.

[Anglachel]

I got tired of emulating everything. If the games purchasable, I'll do that now instead.

[Echleon]

Hahaha, I havn't come on here for a few days and notice i'm getting called out :O

CC is a really, really awesome game.

Good Points: There is so much nostalgia from VII, the storyline is fantastic, all the old locations are brilliantly redone, the new characters a great and that voice acting isn't actually that bad. The graphics are fantastic and the soundtrack is godly - it will really bring you back to FFVII

Bad Points: The combat system is ok, but the DMW is extremely fustrating, and the main story of the game can also be completed in under 10 hours which I found very dissapointing. There are hundreds of side missions, but I really don't have to motivation to do them all and try to make my character unbeatable when I have already completed the story mode. I dunno, it's just not the same as VII, VIII, IX, X etc. in terms of endgame content.

I'll talk about the DMW, although it's pretty confusing the explain. It's basically a 3 reeled slot machine of characters faces that constantly spins in battle. You collect DMWs throughout the game. When you line up 3 of the characters faces, a small cutscene of Zacks memories of the character occurs, and thus a limit break, depending on what character you lined up also occurs. The thing is, the frequency of the limit breaks occuring depends on Zacks state of mind throughout the game, when his emotions reach heights, a Limit Break can literaly happen every 10 seconds. This is extremely annoying in random battles as you can't skip the cut scenes and can kill the enemies with two slashes of your sword.

Nit-picking abit I know, but it's really annoying when you are trying to get someone and you have to sit through the same cut-scene over and over again when you know you could just kill the enemies by using a normal attack.

I would only buy a PSP for the sole purpose of getting CC if you are a massive FF and FFVII fan. Anyone who loves FFVII should play this game, but for those who didn't really understand the hype of FFVII or care that much about it I wouldn't really say it is worth it as part of the beauty of the game is the nostalgia.

I'm sure you could get much more out of a PSP though, being a FF fan. I use custom firmware so you can play PSX games on your PSP, and it's so awesome being able to play VII, VIII and IX on the move.

Hope that helped :)

[Chrysostom]

There is so much nostalgia from VII

That reminded me of a review of Dirge of Cerberus I saw when the game was released. They basically said the nostalgia was a bad thing. Something about 'Self-indulgent or shoddy (I don't remember clearly) references to an eight year old game'. I was sat there thinking 'WTF! The clue is in the title, jackass. Of course it's going to reference FFVII'. Criticizing it for that is like criticizing the Pope for referencing the Bible.

[Happy]

I'll talk about the DMW, although it's pretty confusing the explain. It's basically a 3 reeled slot machine of characters faces that constantly spins in battle. You collect DMWs throughout the game. When you line up 3 of the characters faces, a small cutscene of Zacks memories of the character occurs, and thus a limit break, depending on what character you lined up also occurs. The thing is, the frequency of the limit breaks occuring depends on Zacks state of mind throughout the game, when his emotions reach heights, a Limit Break can literaly happen every 10 seconds. This is extremely annoying in random battles as you can't skip the cut scenes and can kill the enemies with two slashes of your sword.


Kinda like GFs in VIII then when you have to sit through 2 minutes of stuff.

[Echleon]

That reminded me of a review of Dirge of Cerberus I saw when the game was released. They basically said the nostalgia was a bad thing. Something about 'Self-indulgent or shoddy (I don't remember clearly) references to an eight year old game'. I was sat there thinking 'WTF! The clue is in the title, jackass. Of course it's going to reference FFVII'. Criticizing it for that is like criticizing the Pope for referencing the Bible.

Haha yeah, some review site have criticised CC for having too much rehash, but that's what it's meant be like as it is a prequal!

Kinda like GFs in VIII then when you have to sit through 2 minutes of stuff.

Yeah, alot like that but you have no control on when the limit break is going to happen.

[Happy]

More like Zantetsuken then.

[fingers mccoy]

oh man zantetsuken

[Anglachel]

Anybody faced the Stingray in FFV?

Its taking forever and I dont want to have to get Mighty Guard from Shinryu :(


EDIT: Nevermind, got it :)

[Mister_Che]

You can shorten the GF animations in FFVIII. Theres an option somewhere in the config menu.

[Brew]

You can shorten the GF animations in FFVIII. Theres an option somewhere in the config menu.

Really? I thought you could only do it in X...

[fingers mccoy]

i can't remember being able to do that

i should say i remember not being able to do that

[spitfirejunky]

Any other losers didn't do that because they used GF boost?

[fingers mccoy]

hahahaha boost

who uses gfs anyway what's the point

[Bread and Faxes]

I only used GF's to kill enemies. Or use Doomtrains status thing on the Island Closest to Hell.

[MAthiAS]

I used boost, it gave you something to do while the animation was going on.

[fingers mccoy]

well if i used a gf i would use boost but there is absolutely no point in using gfs

[Mister_Che]

Yeah there was an option available. I set it once, used Ifrit, then set it back. :/

GF's were a nice shield for a massive upcoming attack. They were especially useful against that one bastard in the galbadian missile base that would do lots of damage every few turns.

[Anglachel]

The first time I ever played X, I got stuck at Seymour and stopped but now I'm playing it again and got past him and I'm enjoying it more than I did VIII

[Happy]

I really dont remember anything about X :-/

[MrConeman]

Yeah, I only done X start to finish once, and that game started the first day it was released. I more or less 100%'d the game, just a few things I missed out on, but yeah, I've been considering playing it over, I replayed every other FF game that I beat.

[fingers mccoy]

x was awesome but i never replayed it at all, mostly because i rarely do that without initially ODing on nostalgia with a mate and all my mates thought it was lame as hell

[Happy]

I just realised that I've had Vagrant Story since it came out and I've never completed it :(

[Chrysostom]

Ha ha ha, you should all read the posts on Guardian Forces as referring to girlfriends - it's quite funny. Example:

GF's were a nice shield for a massive upcoming attack. They were especially useful against that one bastard in the galbadian missile base that would do lots of damage every few turns.

[Anglachel]

hahahaha boost

who uses gfs anyway what's the point
lol

sex

[Timm]

well if i used a gf i would use boost but there is absolutely no point in using gfs
lololol

[MAthiAS]

:lol: good call

[Happy]

Ha ha ha, you should all read the posts on Guardian Forces as referring to girlfriends - it's quite funny. Example:

GF's were a nice shield for a massive upcoming attack. They were especially useful against that one bastard in the galbadian missile base that would do lots of damage every few turns.

That's what I thought first time I read it, I was confused and thought I had entered the wrong thread.

[fingers mccoy]

fu yall makin fun of me

[spitfirejunky]

My file for X was about 140 hours by the time I unlocked Omega Weapon. After I beat it, I never played it again. For some reason X doesn't have that same luster.

[Brew]

I tried giving X another play through recently but lost interest not long after getting into Luca.

[RetiredAt21]

X is cool I dunno what's wrong with you fools. All the forced, fakey laughter is weird and uncomfortable, though.

[Happy]

If only Ollie still posted, I'm sure he'd back you up.

i didn't even manage to beat Omega.

[Liberi Fatali]

Yeah I spent around 150 hours on X going after the dark aeons. After you do that it loses its replay appeal.

IX is probably the FF I most like to replay, don't know why.

[Happy]

It has a good storyline and a great feel about it.

[Liberi Fatali]

Yeah I guess. Still weird though that whenever I decide to go back and replay one I never go for 6-8, always feel drawn towards IX.

[MAthiAS]

I usually replay Tactics because it gives the chance to use different jobs and stuff that I never used before, plus the story is awesome.

After that is VIII, although it seems like I never actually finish it I just replay it up to the fourth disc.

[Happy]

The only letdown is not being able to go into any villages on disc 4 :(

[Chrysostom]

Is it possible to actually kill the giant robo-crab in Dollet on VIII?

[Kingofdudes]

Yep, you can get bonus seed points for it too IIRC, it's just a bitch to do

[Mister_Che]

I've never bothered with it.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh if you junction like 100 waters to someone's magic stat and then use a boosted quezacotl you could kill it pretty hard i reckon but who would

[Chrysostom]

I guess killing it would forfeit the awesome cut scene on the beach as well.

[fingers mccoy]

yeh i guess it would make it stupid but i'm sure the cut scene would still happen

[Anglachel]

Somebody here said Seymour Flux was easy

wtf did you do to kill it?
I can never survive the third Total Annihilation, and I usually have him at 10,000 hp then

Also how does he cast Banish on my aeons if hes silenced

[Mister_Che]

Which one is Flux? The one in the little flying thing in that snowy mountain?

[Happy]

yeh i guess it would make it stupid but i'm sure the cut scene would still happen
It doesn't happen, I can't remember correctly but you still get a cutscene, just no XATM092 blasting.

[spitfirejunky]

I guess killing it would forfeit the awesome cut scene on the beach as well.

Nope.

It still comes back after you kill it.

[Happy]

Are you sure?
I killed it and I don't remember that.

[Anglachel]

Yeah
@Che




Also I've replayed 1-5 most.

[Czech Yourself]

Yeah it's actually pretty easy. Just get Quezacotl to a certain level and get all his summon magic + things and keep hitting it with that attack to do around 2000 each or more.

[spitfirejunky]

Are you sure?
I killed it and I don't remember that.

I am maybe 90% sure. I haven't killed the machine in a while because it always gives me a bad SeeD rating. But I distinctly remember accusing the developers for being lazy for using the same cut scene.

[Anglachel]

Is this the robot thing that chases you and then you get to the beach and Quistis pulverizes it?



EDIT: Beat flux, just died against Yunalescas third form when I almost had her. Zombie + Regen on Kimahri killed him just as she used Mega Death on my only two non-zombie characters :(

[Czech Yourself]

Yes that scene does exist. The thing is, the less time you have left. The better SeeD rank you'll have.

Or was that when you get Ifrit?

[MAthiAS]

I think that's for Ifrit cuz if you started with less time you got higher SeeD rank.

[Czech Yourself]

That's right. I forgot.

[Chrysostom]

I really need another VIII run through.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that myself I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Also I'm afraid my PS2 might be broken. :upset:

[Czech Yourself]

I need to find my copy of FFVIII

[Happy]

I had to buy a new one cause mine was screwed up.

[Czech Yourself]

I have one somewhere. An original copy.

I own 4 copies of VII

2 Original ones.

[Brew]

I still need to get myself a new copy of VIII, or at least a new Disc 1 that works.

Alternatively...would taking it into Game and letting their 'disc fixer' work its magic do the job?

[MrConeman]

It would, those disk cleaners rock my world. They fixed my Final Fantasy VII and VIII. In VII when you jumped off the pillar after fighting Reno, it froze. In VIII when Balamb Garden took off, it froze. I got them fixed and now they work as good as they did when I first bought them.

[Chrysostom]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that myself I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Also I'm afraid my PS2 might be broken. :upset:

Gah, unlucky my friend. :(

[Brew]

It would, those disk cleaners rock my world. They fixed my Final Fantasy VII and VIII. In VII when you jumped off the pillar after fighting Reno, it froze. In VIII when Balamb Garden took off, it froze. I got them fixed and now they work as good as they did when I first bought them.

Awesome.

I'll probably get them cleaned in about 2 weeks once Uni is finished and I've got nothing else to do but play video games...

:cool:

[McP3000]

I have one somewhere. An original copy.

I own 4 copies of VII

2 Original ones.
haha...why?

[Timm]

I have 2 copies of VII (one regular and one platinum) because I "lost" my first one. turned out it was under my bed all the time...

and 2 copies of VIII because a friend of mine borrowed my first copy, I forgot about it, thought it was lost (and this time I even looked under the bed) then like 3 years later I saw it in my friends room when I was over.

oh well

[Exploding Lobster]

haha...why?

Because non-Greatest Hit's copies are hard to find, and are back ordered.

[Vokills]

FFVI > FFVII

here comes the storm...

[Mister_Che]

Because non-Greatest Hit's copies are hard to find, and are back ordered.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that prefers the non Greatest Hits case.

FFVI > FFVII

here comes the storm...

Not really.

[Czech Yourself]

Yeah, I wear out the greatest hit's copies because they sell them everywhere. And contrary to popular belief there ARE changes between the originals and greatest hits.

[Happy]

Greatest hits copies?
You mean platinum?

[Bread and Faxes]

In the US they are called Greatest Hit's.

They are the Platinum series in the UK and Europe.

[Brew]

I've only got 2 Platinum games - FFVII and Tekken Tag Tournament.

They could've made the Platinum discs look more interesting than they actually are.

[Happy]

My FFVIII was original, the new one I got was platinum :(

[Vokills]

Not really.[/QUOTE]

i thought that all the fanboys went crazy and came everywhere every time the NUMBER 7 is mentioned. weird... but yeah i really do like 6 the best of all the ones ive played (1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,10.2,11)

i hated 11 it may have been better with a keyboard though but still... i literally would fall asleep playing it and thats a big first for me.

[DBlitz]

Play IV and XII

[Happy]

XII isn't that good.

[Mister_Che]

i hated 11 it may have been better with a keyboard though but still... i literally would fall asleep playing it and thats a big first for me.

I can't imagine playing any MMORPG without a keyboard.

[Anglachel]

I've never played X-2, XI or XII

I got halfway through disc 1 on IX then got tired of emulating stuff and played 3 again

[Mister_Che]

XIII isn't out yet is it?

[Anglachel]

I like pressing "i" a lot I guess

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[CybaSumo]

i have been a final fantasy afficionado, and two of the sries i dislike, its 9 and i guess... this one, i dont really like that vivi character, or that mage in final fantasy tactics the mage job...

[Mister_Che]

I thought everyone liked Vivi? :confused:

[MAthiAS]

Vivi is awesome wtf

[Bread and Faxes]

Yeah Vivi is cool.

I liked all the characters in IX.

Amarant looked cool as ****

[MAthiAS]

I hated Quina and Steiner, the other characters were pretty solid. Amarant was indeed really cool.

[Bread and Faxes]

I liked both Quina and Steiner. I called my ex girlfriend Quina because she ate alot lol. But never gained any weight.

[Happy]

I take it she didn't get the reference?

[Bread and Faxes]

Actually she did. She's played a few Final Fantasies.

[Happy]

wow. My girlfriend would kill me if I called her that and she knew what it meant :-/

[Bread and Faxes]

Haha, but she's skinny and I made sure I told her that I was referring to her eating. Not her size.

[Liberi Fatali]

Sounds like a risky joke!

The Quina related stuff in the game bored me though, s/he was one of the characters that I never used much and always got behind the main group in levelling up.

[Brew]

I never really used Quina that much, I remember that frog catching game being really annoying sometimes.

[Chrysostom]

Most of IXs character's had no life, they were flat, no personalities. They weren't very memorable at all, mere vehicles for the plot.

[Grand Admiral Exodus]

the IX world was my favorite, so many cool places

characters were a little flat but their mannerisms were pretty peculiar, and zidane was alright, and steiner was a laugh. that game not bad

the music in IX was also my favorite
the card game was actually fun i thought
the story wasn't too shabby

[Liberi Fatali]

Most of IXs character's had no life, they were flat, no personalities. They weren't very memorable at all, mere vehicles for the plot.I would say the opposite. Many had strong back stories. Sure it is all merged into the plot, but I would say the characters are more developed than many other FFs.

[MBS]

my friend and i are talking about how godawful this scene is in ffx

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-5FTJxfV3pc

[MAthiAS]

ahahaha so bad

[Happy]

Worst scene in gaming. ever.

[fingers mccoy]

Most of IXs character's had no life, they were flat, no personalities. They weren't very memorable at all, mere vehicles for the plot.

lol VIII

[spitfirejunky]

This is strange. I think almost the complete opposite about IX.

IX would have had no plot if it weren't for the back stories of the characters. I don't even really understand what the hell the Necron was and why they needed to fight it.

[fingers mccoy]

necron was like the terran manifestation of the iifa tree or something... there's lots of weird possibilities cause he looks to be of alexandran design, etc

[Bread and Faxes]

Yes I agree. Most of the Characters weren't very memorable. Very dry and listless. Like Garnet. Even though being one of the key characters, she really didn't appeal to me at all. She was kinda eh. She was hot though. I remember at the train stop when she had to change behind those boxes, I always made steiner go over to see her naked. I know I would have done it if I were in his shoes.

[Anglachel]

I got raped at Garwhatever on the first disc of IX (Zidane, Vivi, and Freya in my party. Can't go back to Lindblum and I've run out of medical equipment)

Also Jecht is demolishing me. I hate how hes immune to curative items when zombied :(

[Happy]

Jecht is piss easy :-/

[Collis]

The Final Aeon? Well, basically, if you've level up anything decent it should be no problem. Go and visit Omega first or something, that place is nice!

Apart from the malboro menace's, if you get that in an ambush then you could be screwed over, fast.

[Happy]

Jecht is just before the final aeon, with the cool music.

[Anglachel]

Wait, what.

I'm talking about Braska's Final Aeon

I dont ever remember fighting Jecht with him not being the aeon.

Unless Jecht is supposed to be the 60k hp part of the battle.

[Happy]

I always thought Yu-Yevon was the final aeon?

[Anglachel]

Braska's I mean

[Happy]

I'm so confused.

I don't even remember Braska lol.

[Anglachel]

Braska is Yunas father


EDIT: Braska's Final Aeon is the name given to Jecht in the game.

He wouldnt be so hard for me if he wouldnt come out of nowhere with three attacks in a row

[Chrysostom]

I got raped at Garwhatever on the first disc of IX (Zidane, Vivi, and Freya in my party. Can't go back to Lindblum and I've run out of medical equipment)

You mean Gizamaluke's Grotto, don't you? That place can be a real bitch.

[Brew]

I might have a crack at beating III this weekend, I've decided that levelling my party up to lvl 60 or slightly above is the only way I'm going to beat the last boss.

[Grand Admiral Exodus]

I got raped at Garwhatever on the first disc of IX (Zidane, Vivi, and Freya in my party. Can't go back to Lindblum and I've run out of medical equipment)

Also Jecht is demolishing me. I hate how hes immune to curative items when zombied :(

i got to the final boss (disc 4) and didnt have any redeemable save points and didnt have enough power to beat him

never finished IX because of it

[Collis]

I'm so confused.

I don't even remember Braska lol.

Yeah the final aeon is Jecht. Yu Yevon is another thing, an incredibly easy 'thing'.

[Anglachel]

You mean Gizamaluke's Grotto, don't you? That place can be a real bitch.

Yeah, thats exactly what I mean.
I could try to level up, but then I'd be left with no hp and nowheres to go.
Unless someone can tell me where I can heal up or something.

I might have a crack at beating III this weekend, I've decided that levelling my party up to lvl 60 or slightly above is the only way I'm going to beat the last boss.

I first beat the game at level 56ish, Knight/Magus/Devout/Monk party.
Lowest max hp was 3309 on Arc/Magus. You know hp is the only stat carried from classes, right? If you train as a Black Belt (highest Vitality class) you could get more hp quicker.

i got to the final boss (disc 4) and didnt have any redeemable save points and didnt have enough power to beat him

never finished IX because of it

I take it IX has a few crappy points like this throughout?

Yeah the final aeon is Jecht. Yu Yevon is another thing, an incredibly easy 'thing'.

Constant auti-life lol
When facing Jecht/BFA I have rikku with the weapon you get before the battle that has One MP Cost on it and use the wht magic sphere to get her Auto-Life which Yuna already has.

So even when Jecht kills everyone at once, they come back. But then Jecht attacks again for some reason. :-\

[Brew]

i got to the final boss (disc 4) and didnt have any redeemable save points and didnt have enough power to beat him

never finished IX because of it

That happened to me on my first play through of IX, I ended up leaving it alone for a couple of years before starting a new game.

I first beat the game at level 56ish, Knight/Magus/Devout/Monk party.
Lowest max hp was 3309 on Arc/Magus. You know hp is the only stat carried from classes, right? If you train as a Black Belt (highest Vitality class) you could get more hp quicker.


I wasn't aware of that, cheers for the tip :)

[jenyus]

I wanna play tactics now :(

[fingers mccoy]

ok gizamaluke's grotto is a bitch at low level, this coming from the guy who beat it at level 1

a serious bitch

are you stuck at gizamaluke himself? or the black mages or what?

the hardest part for me was

a) beating the black mages without gaining any levels, which took me like two days

b) stealing the stuff i wanted from gizamaluke as well as successfully hurting his status with a tent on the first round

you can get the oak staff fairly soon by doing chocographs, and you can get quina's technique 'limit glove' from mandragoras in a nearby forest, which is an incredible technique cause it does 9999 damage if quina uses it at 1 hp, so kill her off then revive her with a phoenix down and you can smoke pretty much anyone at this point

[Liberi Fatali]

I never found Gizamauke's Grotto that bad. Just got annoyed at those annoying jester twins. Ipsen's Castle however, now that place was a bitch.


I take it IX has a few crappy points like this throughout?Not really if you prepare for battles properly.


Constant auti-life lol
When facing Jecht/BFA I have rikku with the weapon you get before the battle that has One MP Cost on it and use the wht magic sphere to get her Auto-Life which Yuna already has.Yeah if you spend some time away from the main storyline developing your characters, getting their ultimate weapons etc, the boss battle aint hard at all. Especially when you've gone against dark aeons, penance (not that I have), omega weapon etc!

[Anglachel]

That happened to me on my first play through of IX, I ended up leaving it alone for a couple of years before starting a new game.



I wasn't aware of that, cheers for the tip :)

np :)

ok gizamaluke's grotto is a bitch at low level, this coming from the guy who beat it at level 1

a serious bitch

are you stuck at gizamaluke himself? or the black mages or what?

the hardest part for me was

a) beating the black mages without gaining any levels, which took me like two days

b) stealing the stuff i wanted from gizamaluke as well as successfully hurting his status with a tent on the first round

you can get the oak staff fairly soon by doing chocographs, and you can get quina's technique 'limit glove' from mandragoras in a nearby forest, which is an incredible technique cause it does 9999 damage if quina uses it at 1 hp, so kill her off then revive her with a phoenix down and you can smoke pretty much anyone at this point

Gizamaluke himself is bugging me. I'm at level 8.
Never thought of using a tent on him >.>

I never found Gizamauke's Grotto that bad. Just got annoyed at those annoying jester twins. Ipsen's Castle however, now that place was a bitch.

Not really if you prepare for battles properly.

Yeah if you spend some time away from the main storyline developing your characters, getting their ultimate weapons etc, the boss battle aint hard at all. Especially when you've gone against dark aeons, penance (not that I have), omega weapon etc!

NA version doesnt have Dark Aeons :(

I've got the Nirvana powered up with the moon crest, and the Masamune but thats it so far. I guess I'll try and get the rest then.

[MBS]

i have caladbolg, masamune, nirvana, and godhand all powered up

there's no way in hell i am dodging 10000 lightning bolts to power up lulu's, especially since my yuna has gone through hers, lulu's and rikku's part of the sphere grid


....yuna knows mug. =\

i sent tidus through auron's and auron's through tidus's when they were done with their parts so they're both really quick and hitting really hard. they also have such a high hit rating that wakka isn't really necessary for flying mobs.

and kimahri is ****ing useless. i'm kicking myself in the *** for not lanceting omega weapon's ultimate off him, but w/e.

my usual party setup for just world stuff is tidus, yuna, rikku. that's for farming and shi. but my boss battle setup is tidus, auron and yuna

yuna can doublecast ultima for 2 mana :)

i heart the stats on nirvana upgraded all the way


wow, what a long and geeky post

[Happy]

i wish I could've played X long enough to achieve that.

[Bread and Faxes]

See, I liked X. But I didn't find it fufilling. I beat it, and got all the Aeons and such. But idk.

[spitfirejunky]

i have caladbolg, masamune, nirvana, and godhand all powered up

there's no way in hell i am dodging 10000 lightning bolts to power up lulu's, especially since my yuna has gone through hers, lulu's and rikku's part of the sphere grid


....yuna knows mug. =\

i sent tidus through auron's and auron's through tidus's when they were done with their parts so they're both really quick and hitting really hard. they also have such a high hit rating that wakka isn't really necessary for flying mobs.

and kimahri is ****ing useless. i'm kicking myself in the *** for not lanceting omega weapon's ultimate off him, but w/e.

my usual party setup for just world stuff is tidus, yuna, rikku. that's for farming and shi. but my boss battle setup is tidus, auron and yuna

yuna can doublecast ultima for 2 mana :)

i heart the stats on nirvana upgraded all the way


wow, what a long and geeky post

If I were in your shoes I would have passed Kimahri, Tidus, Wakka and Auron through each of their sphere grids, and used Wakka, Lulu and Tidus on the frontlines for their multiple hitting overdrives.

[Anglachel]

I didnt quite find what Kimahris sphere grid was supposed to be so I just sent him through lulus throughout the game.

[Liberi Fatali]

If I were in your shoes I would have passed Kimahri, Tidus, Wakka and Auron through each of their sphere grids, and used Wakka, Lulu and Tidus on the frontlines for their multiple hitting overdrives.Lulu's overdrive was crap compared with others.

[spitfirejunky]

Lulu's overdrive was crap compared with others.

Well unless you can get the Magus Sisters to work every time I can't see how the others are better (assuming you're hitting for 99,999).

[Happy]

I think all the overdrives were pretty crappy.

[Mister_Che]

I didnt quite find what Kimahris sphere grid was supposed to be so I just sent him through lulus throughout the game.

You're actually free to choose which path to follow, either physical combat based or magical combat based. I'm pretty sure I always made him follow Auron.

[Liberi Fatali]

Well unless you can get the Magus Sisters to work every time I can't see how the others are better (assuming you're hitting for 99,999).
It might be because I found the rotating of the right analog stick annoying. But I always just disliked her overdrive.

You're actually free to choose which path to follow, either physical combat based or magical combat based. I'm pretty sure I always made him follow Auron.
The problem with the way they designed the sphere grid was that he basically became like Auron but weaker, or Lulu but weaker. The expert sphere grid (though I don't think you Americans had it) had a better layout.

[Mister_Che]

Yeah, Khimari was pretty lame. :/

The American release didn't have the expert sphere grid, or Penance for that matter. What was on the expert grid? More branching paths?

[Liberi Fatali]

It is easier to switch between paths, and the characters start pretty much bunched up in the center. So basically if you know how you want to develop your characters, you can 'customize' their development.

[RetiredAt21]

All this talk of X really makes me want to play it.

[Happy]

Same here, even though I don't really like it.

[Mister_Che]

The lack of a world map puts me off of playing it again. As minor as it is.

[Happy]

We should start a petition - bring back the world map.

[fingers mccoy]

lol not gonna happen

unless ff moves to wii or something and everyone is happy with compromised graphics

[Happy]

That would be a disastrous move, don't tell SE

[Timm]

actually limit breaks/trance/overdrive moves with wii controls might be quite fun

and yeah they won't bring back world maps. but X should have had one to compensate for the limited paths. it was like the bad of both worlds the way it was.

[fingers mccoy]

they might like bring world maps back if they get to handling entire worlds with amazing graphics but that's not gonna happen for a while

[Timm]

don't think so

the world maps' function was to connect the different places and simulate a big world where players can roam without wasting too much on the catridge/cd. they can easily do "whole worlds" nowadays, see w.o.w. and the likes

bit offtopic but I can't wait for big flash drives for laptops to become affordable

[Mister_Che]

FFXI has the best world map, they make you walk every damn foot of it. You could take a chocobo, I guess.

[Anglachel]

I remember people saying XI lost a lot of userbase, but since theres four expansions out...are they all connected in game or what? I kinda want to get it but I was discouraged by previous comments.

Also I remember someone here saying the thread title should be Mog Pub. Well I named the FF on MX2 that :3

http://talk.mxtabs.net/index.php?showtopic=510

[Happy]

I can't get on that at school.
And about world maps, they could always use one with poorer graphics, I wouldn't mind, as long as its there.

[Mister_Che]

All the expansions are separate storylines. There's still a strong userbase.

[spitfirejunky]

I remember people saying XI lost a lot of userbase, but since theres four expansions out...are they all connected in game or what? I kinda want to get it but I was discouraged by previous comments.

Yeah I reactivated my account about 5 months ago (last left a 51/25 THF/NIN from way back in the day). It's pretty damn quiet, and when it's not there are still way more non-English players than there are English. I had to get good with the translator to get that far, but I stopped because it was too much of a hassle to find something to do consistently. Shame since it's a great MMO.

The expansions are no different in concept than that of other MMO's. I can't quite recall what the most recent one was about, but the first few expansions basically chronicle the discovery and occupation of new lands by the prevailing nations. Chains of Promathia was more focused on the ancient history of the relevant nations. I hear the recent one was no different, but it's particularly important because it introduced a couple new classes. I remember Corsair being one of them since this guy I partied with was throwing dice all over the place.

[Mister_Che]

There's a newer expansion that sends you back in time to a war-era Vana'diel.

[spitfirejunky]

Grandfather paradox! :eek:

[Kingofdudes]

I started an account back up last month, but I can't stand all the damn grinding, so I just bought the Orange Box and canceled my XI account.

[spitfirejunky]

Hence the nickname "blue crab slaughterfest" for the obscene amount of crabs you have to kill in Valkurm, Qufim and Kazham.

[Anglachel]

I guess I could pick it up during the summer, once I have a job


If I get a job ;[


EDIT: There was so much potential for extras on the world on III. Theres that oasis in the desert near the mountains leading to the Fang of Earth, I remember when I first had access to there i spent half an hour moving around there thinking there could be something to find :(

Theres also so many more pincer shaped peninsulas that could mean something, like outside the mountain range surrounding the Crystal Tower.

And the waterfall near the Water Shrine

the southern peninsula on the floating continent
etc.

:(

[Czech Yourself]

I'm playing Final Fantasy V again. I remembered how sick it was.

[Anglachel]

Bartz is Kain as a dragoon

[Brew]

I completed Final Fantasy III this morning :D:cool:

[TheBattery]

:D
I'm doing mognet sidequests still.

[Brew]

I haven't started on those yet...will do sometime soon :)

[Happy]

Mognet sidequest was easier than I remember it being.

[Anglachel]

Was the Iron Giant easy too? Huh? :mad:

[Timm]

took up FFVI again.
After getting completely owned by random encounters on the flying continent last time I did some mad lvl'ing and beat the fcuk out of them. And that Ultima Boss didn't stand a chance against my terra's magic :cool:

What's up with that Cid-Fish thing? I fed him two fish, then he died. And there was only one kind of fish and I couldn't do anything else :(

[Happy]

Was the Iron Giant easy too? Huh? :mad:

yeh 1 hit KO bitch.

[Anglachel]

took up FFVI again.
After getting completely owned by random encounters on the flying continent last time I did some mad lvl'ing and beat the fcuk out of them. And that Ultima Boss didn't stand a chance against my terra's magic :cool:

What's up with that Cid-Fish thing? I fed him two fish, then he died. And there was only one kind of fish and I couldn't do anything else :(
Go back and forth from the beach, until you see fishes swimming rly fast. Those fish help him get better.


Really, really, REALLY slow fish OHKO him.


and @Happy


wat

D:

I just beat him, lvl 99 Onion knights and it wasnt hard much at this point but took a while :upset:

[fingers mccoy]

dodged 157 lightning bolts on the thunder plains in X and lost concentration

think i'm gonna give it a rest for a while :lol:

[Timm]

Go back and forth from the beach, until you see fishes swimming rly fast. Those fish help him get better.


Really, really, REALLY slow fish OHKO him.


and @Happy


wat

D:

I just beat him, lvl 99 Onion knights and it wasnt hard much at this point but took a while :upset:

OHKO..?
meh at least I got an emotional cut scene and what not :')

[Anglachel]

Slow fish slowly kill him, the slowest kills him immediately

The dead Cid scene is better than the live Cid scene anyways

[Happy]

and @Happy


wat

D:

I just beat him, lvl 99 Onion knights and it wasnt hard much at this point but took a while :upset:

Hahaha I was just messing around :p

[Brew]

Has anyone else seen the Gametrailers Final Fantasy video retrospective? They've split it into 13 parts, each video being around 15 mins long and they cover pretty much every FF game. I can highly recommend watching them if you haven't already :thumb:

The Final Fantasy articles on socksmakepeoplesexy.com are worth reading aswell, they have a bit more humour that the GT videos.

[Anglachel]

Yes

The Maria in part 12 (?) when talking about PSP remakes is named Trap lol

Also Galdes in FFCC Ring of Fates on hard mode (3rd New Game+) is ****ing stupid :(


Its nice seeing three stars above your freelancer in V :')

[Anglachel]

Bump

idk why, but the main page said Brew had the last post, but I clearly did :-\

My little bro got a PSP. How can I emulate my dl'd FFIX isos without a ps3? :)

[Phalanx]

Bump

idk why, but the main page said Brew had the last post, but I clearly did :-\

My little bro got a PSP. How can I emulate my dl'd FFIX isos without a ps3? :)

Have you got custom firmware on your PSP? that's the first step

[Brew]

Bump

idk why, but the main page said Brew had the last post, but I clearly did :-\

My little bro got a PSP. How can I emulate my dl'd FFIX isos without a ps3? :)

Its 'coz I'm special :cool:

[Happy]

Hacking PSPs is hard. At least for me.

[Brew]

From what I've read on various gaming forums, hacking a slim PSP is easier than the old fat PSP. Something like its alot harder to 'brick' a slim PSP.

[Anglachel]

My brothers is one of those new slim God of War PSPs (its just red)

k so I'll get the firmware.


EDIT: He has friends with PSPs, so is there by chance any way to get Sony's emulator but not have to buy games off the PS3?


ofc I'm googling its just nicer to have someone on a forum i frequent tell me what they know/use rather than me follow random stuff found off google.


EDIT2: Got past Gizamalukes, and now I'm breezing through disc 2 so far

[Mister_Che]

Videogames Live is coming to my area on July 10th. If it's anything like last year, they'll play Liberi Fatali (the choir pronounces 'wecos' wrong :() and then One Winged Angel as an encore.

Too bad Square won't let them show any video from the games.

[-Listy-]

im considering starting another game of 7 or 8..hmm.

[Timm]

you mean square enix
square died a long time ago :(

[Mister_Che]

Well yeah, Square-Enix. Though to be fair, it actually used to be Squaresoft. So saying Square is perfectly fine. :P

[Anglachel]

Just beat IX for the first time :)

[fingers mccoy]

awesome

did you slay the crap out of it like do all the sidequests and get a full treasure rank and ****

that game's replayability is underrated

[Anglachel]

No, just went through the story first time around

[Mister_Che]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBHIgh3MEJU&feature=related

So it was brought to my attention that the infamous FFX laughing scene is somehow worse in the Japanese version.

Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled.

[spitfirejunky]

Tidus sounds something like a Macintosh laughing.

[Phalanx]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBHIgh3MEJU&feature=related

So it was brought to my attention that the infamous FFX laughing scene is somehow worse in the Japanese version.

Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled.

Oh God, that was alful

[fingers mccoy]

just beat antlion on ffix, four hours play time, level 1 with all chars

this just in

[Happy]

Jesus Christ, that boss is hard enough with decent levels.

[Phalanx]

I can't remember Antlion, which one was that again?

[Timm]

that huge yellow and red quicksand insect monster

[Phalanx]

that huge yellow and red quicksand insect monster

Oh, I think I remember, looks like a big red plant or something.

I don't remember it being particularly hard, but hell, it must be tricky if you're level 1.

[Happy]

It was hard for me anyways :P

[Timm]

I remember it being pretty easy actually :P

[Happy]

I dunno it was always at that stage where I was bored of levelling and just wanted to advance in the story, so i was a low level.

if that sentence made sense...

[RetiredAt21]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBHIgh3MEJU&feature=related

So it was brought to my attention that the infamous FFX laughing scene is somehow worse in the Japanese version.

Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled.

:lol:

Didn't think it was possible to be more awkward than the US version.

[Chrysostom]

just beat antlion on ffix, four hours play time, level 1 with all chars

this just in

I'm sorry, WHAT!?

[Anglachel]

I just finished teaching Terra every spell in VI (Advance), and then Gigantuar kicked my *** before I could save D:

and mccoy how the hell did you do that

[Chrysostom]

So I've finally bought FFXII today, and I've also had a brief bash at the DS FFIII which is an awesome little game that has made me yearn for my own DS. I was suprised at how well the DS handled the opening FMV. It looked really nice.

[fingers mccoy]

I'm sorry, WHAT!?

now up to pinnacle rocks, 5 hours 5 mins on the clock, level 1 all chars.

bitches dont got nothing on me i got thumbs of steeeeel

the hardest bit i've had to do so far is get all the way through cleyra without levelling up or taking any random encounters, aside from the carrion worm battle i got into in order to learn auto-life. i had to get through three forced alexandrian soldier battles by making them escape, and successfully cast stop on all black mages.

the second hardest bit was getting to pinnacle rocks, cause then it's just plain hard to avoid getting a game over.

the third hardest was getting through burmecia without a single random encounter.

you guys have no idea how hardcore this is. i'm really not looking forward to fossil roo or the iifa tree.

[Chrysostom]

Frankly, I'm amazed at your progress thus far, regardless of what's to come. You are INSANE.

[Anglachel]

So I've finally bought FFXII today, and I've also had a brief bash at the DS FFIII which is an awesome little game that has made me yearn for my own DS. I was suprised at how well the DS handled the opening FMV. It looked really nice.
I was so surprised by the DS graphics when I first got it. Both FFIII and FFXII:RW looked amazing.

now up to pinnacle rocks, 5 hours 5 mins on the clock, level 1 all chars.

bitches dont got nothing on me i got thumbs of steeeeel

the hardest bit i've had to do so far is get all the way through cleyra without levelling up or taking any random encounters, aside from the carrion worm battle i got into in order to learn auto-life. i had to get through three forced alexandrian soldier battles by making them escape, and successfully cast stop on all black mages.

the second hardest bit was getting to pinnacle rocks, cause then it's just plain hard to avoid getting a game over.

the third hardest was getting through burmecia without a single random encounter.

you guys have no idea how hardcore this is.

lol, I don't know the Excalibur II's stats so I guess it must be really worth it

[fingers mccoy]

well it is the best sword in the game... it's only 8 points above ultima weapon but it has a holy elem-atk and can be used in combination with steiner and vivi's sword magic to exploit any other elemental weakness. not to mention the fact that it's 21 points above the next highest weapon usable by steiner, a character with some very useful abilities (particularly armour break) and the highest strength stat in the game.

i mean, obviously the motivation to get it comes more from completism than the need to do 9999 every hit, it's not like ff9 is a hard game or anything.

i'm doing this at level 1 to get as close as i can to a 'perfect game', which means the highest possible stats for every character, every item in the game, every sidequest done, etc.

i can give my party members higher stats by levelling them up with more powerful weapons and armour, which provide varying stat boosts per level, so that by the time they've hit level 99 i can max out certain stats.

the general idea is to max out the spirit stat for every character, because it does cool stuff like speed up trance acquisition and it makes regen work incredibly well (like, full hp recovery from any deficit over the course of one atb refill)

then depending on the character you go for strength or magic

this game's very weird and what i've realised is that the speed stat is almost meaningless, because the atb system always makes the game play out in rounds, and you'll never get one fast character getting multiple goes in the space of one slow character. the system just doesn't work like that.

btw, it's apparently impossible to get a 'perfect game' on the PAL version of the game, which i have, because you cant get all the treasures on the way to the excalibur II in under 12 hours, as the game runs about 20 percent slower than the NTSC version but the clock runs at the same speed. so i'm skipping out a lot of unnecessary treasures (like that card you get from racing hippaul in alexandria for like an hour, or the skipping game, or the elixir at the beginning of fossil roo that you have to backtrack to get) as well as tantarian, an optional boss.

[MrConeman]

Bought a PSP (for £40 off a friend - awesome) and Crisis Core on the day of it's European release, really good so far.

[Anglachel]

Oh man, I thought Tactics A2 was out July 24th

I am v happy right now

[Chrysostom]

So as I mentioned at the top of this page, about a week ago I bought FFXII. I'm about 12 hours in, and have just come out of the Barheim passage and have gone as far as I can with fetching the items for the sick traveller in the village down by the Nebra river. I must say that so far, I love this game. I love the graphics, the music, the license board, the gambit system, the story (such as it is so far), the voice acting. It's a fantastic game.

The only problem is, deciding which three characters to make my permanent team. I really can't choose who I want to part with. The game should really let you have 4 party members, because then I'd know who to have in my team : Vaan, Ashe, Fran and Balthier. That way I can have two close combat and two ranged fighters, and I can have Ashe specialize in white and green magicks, and Fran in black and time magicks. I'm also at a total loss as to which weapon types to assign to which characters. I've already commited Fran to her bows, Balthier to his guns and Vaan to swords. But what about the poles, staves, spears, hammers/axes etc? Yet another reason I could do with a 4 person party. Still, nothing I can do about it...

For those of you who've finished FFXII, and without giving anything away, who would you say are the 3 most important characters as regards the plot? Because I'll likely choose them for my permanent party.

[fingers mccoy]

um you dont really have to worry it doesnt make any difference

i used balthier, fran and penelo the most

[fingers mccoy]

i have crisis core and it is awesome

i think i'm doing too many missions for where i am in the main quest cause it took me about half an hour to beat this one boss who has this attack that always, always took me down to double figure hp when it was full or higher

that was so intense