The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[Happy]

I liked IX's system.

[Khaos]

Yeah IX was pretty sweet... they brought it back to the older ways of Healer, Mage, Fighter blah blah derka derka. It was nice.

Cept fighting Osmose(or whatever the **** the final bosses name was.. i dont remember) with a Garnet that could deal 9,999 :D

[Happy]

osmos was hard :(

[Chrysostom]

One day I'll buy the official strategy guides for all the FFs I have so I can 100% them all.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Dont bother with IX's strategy guide. Its terrible.

If there was one FF that I would take the time to 100%, it would be VIII.

[Happy]

One day I'll buy the official strategy guides for all the FFs I have so I can 100% them all.

I think they're pretty pointless.
Just go gamfaqs.com

[Chrysostom]

I think they're pretty pointless.
Just go gamfaqs.com

Hmmm. You have a point there my friend.

[Phalanx]

Dont bother with IX's strategy guide. Its terrible.

If there was one FF that I would take the time to 100%, it would be VIII.

that's probably because it's the easiest one, FFVIII was the first FF i ever got 100% on, there's seriously nothing more I can do with that game.

[Mister_Che]

X is probably one I'll never get 100% on because of Lulu's goddamn final weapon.

[Collis]

X is probably one I'll never get 100% on because of Lulu's goddamn final weapon.

You cant dodge the lightning bolts!?

[MAthiAS]

X I never bothered to do most of the side quests. Just didn't care about that game at all.

The Official guides suck pretty much, they're not even 100% guides some of them. The maps are nice though.

[Mister_Che]

You cant dodge the lightning bolts!?

It gets tiresome. Plus, getting struck after I just dodged strike #86 makes me want to kill someone.

[The Transporter 2]

thats what final fantrasy games consider replayability

like in IX: you have to get to the last disc in under 10 hours to get streiners best weapon. WTF who would even want to try that?

[Happy]

just cheat.

[The Transporter 2]

eh?

[Happy]

i had a cheat disc that gave me the Excalibur II, that's the only way I know I could get it.

[FlyingPaul_83]

thats what final fantrasy games consider replayability

like in IX: you have to get to the last disc in under 10 hours to get streiners best weapon. WTF who would even want to try that?

haha me and my friends were going to bet each other too see who could get excaliber II in the least amount of time. Still havent done it though. I dont have the will power to try it anymore.

To Phalanx: Did you get perfect stats with everybody?

[GreyHam]

It gets tiresome. Plus, getting struck after I just dodged strike #86 makes me want to kill someone.

i think some people are just lucky and have a natural ability to do that...

god knows why i did, my housemates thought id gone mad

if i remember right, i did it in bursts of like 3-5 minutes each to make sure i didnt go coco loco

is worth doing though, lulu's a beast when shes powered up, altho getting the ultimate weapons really breaks the game in normal story mode (i had 4/7 of them when i did sin, with holy, and flare on doublecast. it was a massacre)

and the monster arena still kills me.....

ah well, FF3 soon!

[Happy]

FF3 on DS?
That game is amazing. Too short though.

[2muchket!]

Hmmm I may well pick up some of the earlier FF for the DS.

Any suggestions ?

[Timm]

so I'm playing FFVI and I get lost frequently thanks to the pseudo 3D world map :|
anyway I just returned to narshe to protect the esper from krazy kefka

[tobius]

In FF7 i'm trying to get Barret to learn his Catastrophe limit break but whenever i try i get a caption saying "D-d-d-damn, my head hurts!". :(

Does anyone know what the problem is? :(

[Timm]

does barret have all other limits yet?
if so he might just have to use his last lvl 3 limit a little more before he is able to learn his final one :) just try every now and then to give him the catastrophe, he'll learn it eventually

[Happy]

Its funny what they all say when they're not ready to get their level 4 limits.

[Chrysostom]

Anyone ever bother to get 9999 HP and 999 MP for their regular team on FFVII without using HP/MP Plus Materia?

[existanceisfutile]

I just can't finish ff12. It blows.

Just take out all the good story and interesting characters from the ff series and insert a load of dungeon crawling and repetitive gameplay = ff12.

[Happy]

Anyone ever bother to get 9999 HP and 999 MP for their regular team on FFVII without using HP/MP Plus Materia?

I think its impossible. My level 97 Cloud didn't have those stats.

[Chrysostom]

I think its impossible. My level 97 Cloud didn't have those stats.

Oh really? How strange.

[MrConeman]

Anyone ever bother to get 9999 HP and 999 MP for their regular team on FFVII without using HP/MP Plus Materia?

It's not impossible at all. It's quite easy actually. I have a game where I've done everything and have my three main characters with those stats. Without hp/mp plus. It depends on the other materia you use as well though, you just have to know what you're doing.

[MAthiAS]

I just can't finish ff12. It blows.

Just take out all the good story and interesting characters from the ff series and insert a load of dungeon crawling and repetitive gameplay = ff12.
Yeah god damn those fetch quests get annoying.

[Brew]

I owned XII for about 2 weeks before trading it in, really couldn't get into it at all.

[guitrguy]

Really? I liked FFXII quite a bit. I thought is it was much better than X.

[Anglachel]

Anybody have Revenant Wings yet? How is it?

[guitrguy]

This is the first I heard about it, tbh.

[Anglachel]

I need to find some new gmes to play on my DS, and I wasn't sure if I should get Revenant Wings or wait for the FF4 remake. I never played FF12 so I don't know how that would affect my playing Revenant Wings

[guitrguy]

If Revenant Wings is based on XII then You may not understand some of the story with out playing XII beforehand.

[Anglachel]

Thats what I was thinking, but I've played sequels to games w/o problems before, so I was interested.

I don't think its based on 12, its just got some of the same characters and happens a few years later or something. At least, the wiki article didn't say there was a need to play FF12

[guitrguy]

You'll probably be able to enjoy it with out playing XII

[Anglachel]

Well then, off to Wal-Mart (or EB Games) I go!

[MAthiAS]

Really? I liked FFXII quite a bit. I thought is it was much better than X.
It was definitely better than X, but I think X was absolutely terrible.

[guitrguy]

OMG it was. It became even worse after I played XII

[Brew]

Really? I liked FFXII quite a bit. I thought is it was much better than X.

The story seemed pretty boring, Vaan was annoying and the gambit system/battle system in general pissed me off.

[MrConeman]

XII was terrible. I much preferred X. The story may not have been great, but at least it had one for Christ sake.

Honestly, XII was a 40 hour long fetch mission.

[MAthiAS]

I liked XII's battle system a lot more than X's. I don't remember much of anything about XII's story but X's was just embarrassing.

[guitrguy]

I liked XII's battle system a lot more than X's. I don't remember much of anything about XII's story but X's was just embarrassing.

This.

The story was weak in XII but wasn't gay. The game play made up for the weak story, imo.

[Happy]

XII didn't really have a storyline towards the end.
The game was like "GO FIGHT STUFF" and that was it.

[Anglachel]

Well thankfully I haven't gone to purchase Revenant Wings yet then :-\

[Happy]

What's that?

[The Transporter 2]

the ds sequel to ffxii. it's a strategy game

[guitrguy]

Similar to tactics?

[Anglachel]

I thought it had similar battle system to 12?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Tactics_A2:_Grimoire_of_the_Rift
I mean, if thats going to come out...


Revenant Wings is a real-time strategy game, but with elements reminiscent of Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Advance.[6] It can be played entirely with the Nintendo DS stylus. Like in Final Fantasy XII, battles initiate once the party comes in contact with the enemy, and the characters can attack automatically. The player is given the option to give commands to the characters by tapping on them with the stylus. Possible commands include changing the character's target, setting their gambit, or using various abilities. Area spells can be cast by drawing a rectangle around the enemies with the stylus.

Each character is distinguished according to three types: melee, ranged and flying. Melee characters attack at a close range, and ranged from afar, while flying are able to travel unbound to terrain. The types oppose each other in the manner where melee wins over ranged, ranged wins over flying and flying wins over melee.

Seems interesting

[Toaster]

Tactics is good

Jobs are not balanced at all though.

[spitfirejunky]

Ha, I'm pretty much at odds with people here.

I think XII's story was great and its battle system was rubbish.

[FlyingPaul_83]

I guess I'm the only one who liked everything about XII then?

I thought the story was interesting but it was a little hard to follow when there were so many...interruptions by way of random missions. And for those who have not finished the game yet, the story picks up quite a bit towards the very end.

The battle system was interesting. I enjoyed the real time aspect of it (in contrast to X's battle system in which you could literally leave the game during battle for hours if you so pleased with no worry of being killed), and the gambit system was pretty cool. When you boil it down it does seem like just a way to make the game play itself, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless.

And I highly enjoyed the monster hunts or whatever they were called. I thought they were fun, challenging sidequests that not only extended the life of the game, but also amped up the difficulty. Some of those hunts were enjoyably hard.

[Liberi Fatali]

I guess I'm the only one who liked everything about XII then?

I thought the story was interesting but it was a little hard to follow when there were so many...interruptions by way of random missions. And for those who have not finished the game yet, the story picks up quite a bit towards the very end.
The story I think was interesting, when I read blurbs about the storyline I think "ooh exciting," but the game just failed to immerse people into that story. The story and the gameplay just seemed to seperate from each other. And though the story may pick up towards the end, the fact that it only does it towards the end is a fault.

The battle system was interesting. I enjoyed the real time aspect of it (in contrast to X's battle system in which you could literally leave the game during battle for hours if you so pleased with no worry of being killed), and the gambit system was pretty cool. When you boil it down it does seem like just a way to make the game play itself, but I still enjoyed it nonetheless.Active time is nice and all, but I always set my battles on 'wait.' I mean if I wanted to kick someone, I'd do it instantly. But with a menu I'd have to select "action," scroll down through all the options and then select "kick." Whereas if I have it on wait, its like the battle pauses so that I can select what I knew I wanted to do.

I too liked the gambit system, though it wasn't perfect, and it isn't as though I dislike having control over all 3, selecting all their actions. It'll be interesting to see how they develop it in the future, as I'm assuming they'll no doubt continue using a gambit like system in the future.

And I highly enjoyed the monster hunts or whatever they were called. I thought they were fun, challenging sidequests that not only extended the life of the game, but also amped up the difficulty. Some of those hunts were enjoyably hard.Though it is comparable to similar features in previous FF games.

As I've said before, and I'll probably say again, FF XII is a game for those who just like to explore. Hunt down rare monsters, find secret regions, push through dense jungles packed with tough animals. Yet in so many areas I find it disappointing, even when compared just to FF X.

- X had an at times beautiful score, XII had an over zealous and bombastic score that rarely suited the scene.

- X had beautiful and varied scenery, whereas XII just had interesting scenery.

- Some of the characters in X were annoying, but there was enough back stories behind each character for anyone to get drawn into at least one character. Whereas with XII the characters had back stories nowhere near as developed, and there still were annoying characters.

- If you wanted a challenge, X trumps XII with it's dark aeons, penance etc

I could go on and on.

[Happy]

XII's music was awful, there was none of it I liked.

[Liberi Fatali]

Yeah, thankfully we won't be seeing anymore of Hitoshi Sakimoto though.

The guy doing the soundtrack for XIII, Masashi Hamauzu, has done some brilliant stuff in the past. Really expecting big things for XIII.

XIII Versus should excel in the music too, Yoko Shimomura has done some pretty decent stuff.

Plus everything I've heard in the various trailers so far has sounded fantastic.

[spitfirejunky]

:upset: Sakimoto is so ****ing awesome.

[MAthiAS]

- If you wanted a challenge, X trumps XII with it's dark aeons, penance etc
Ya but XII had tough parts in the actual story.

[Happy]

:upset: Sakimoto is so ****ing awesome.

What other games has he done?

[FakePlasticTrees]

XII got boring.


I forget why.

[MrConeman]

I never found XII difficult either, any challenge I ever came up against, if you had the patience to sit through those God awful chained Quickening sequences it just destroyed anything. Now of course you could resist using them, but then there was the chance of getting killed and actually having to play longer.

And yeah, the soundtrack was terrible, it was like a bad Star Wars tribute composer. The one good track in it was the classic prelude.

[Happy]

XII got boring.


I forget why.

I think the post below yours sums it up.

[MBS]

i almost bought XII yesterday


almost

[MrConeman]

It was a bad game, and I never completed it (though according to my friend, I could have it beat in about 2 hours play, if I'm at appropriate levels.) but I'm not sure if I totally regret buying it, as odd as that sounds, I'm still a fan of the series, and I may or may not actually try it again someday.

[spitfirejunky]

What other games has he done?

Vagrant Story is my favorite.

EDIT:

Magical Chase (1991): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Ogre Battle (1993): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata and Hayato Matsuo)
X-Kaliber 2097 (Sword Maniac) (1994): Composer (in collaboration with Hayato Matsuo)
Kingdom Grand Prix (1994): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Tactics Ogre (1995): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Soukyu-Gurentai (Terra Diver) (1996): Composer (in collaboration with Manabu Namiki)
The Adventures of Hourai High School (1996): Composer
Treasure Hunter G (1997): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata, Toshiaki Sakoda, Yoko Takada, Tomoko Matsui, and Akiko Goto)
Final Fantasy Tactics (1997): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Radiant Silvergun (1998): Composer
Vagrant Story (2000): Composer
Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis (2001): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Legaia 2: Duel Saga (2001): Composer (in collaboration with Yasunori Mitsuda and Michiru Oshima)
Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (2002): Composer
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (2003): Composer (in collaboration with Ayako Saso and Kaori Oukoshi; main theme provided by Nobuo Uematsu)
Gradius V (2004): Composer
Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity (2004): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Final Fantasy XII (2006): Composer (with additional music by Hayato Matsuo and Masaharu Iwata, a vocal theme by Nobuo Uematsu, and a symphonic poem based on Sakimoto's main theme by Taro Hakase and Yuji Toriyama)
Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (2007): Composer (with Kenichiro Fukui)
Final Fantasy Tactics Shishi Sensō (The War of the Lions) (2007): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata, with an updated score)
GrimGrimoire (2007): Composer
Odin Sphere (2007): Composer
Deltora Quest (2007): Composer
ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat (2007): Composer (in collaboration with Masaharu Iwata)
Final Fantasy Tactics A2 (2007): Composer
Opoona (2007): Composer
Valkyrie of the Battlefield: Gallian Chronicles (2008): Composer

[Happy]

I see. I've only played the most recent Tactics and VS but his music did seem a lot better in those.

[FlyingPaul_83]

:upset: Sakimoto is so ****ing awesome.


What other games has he done?

He did the score for Tactics with Masaharu Iwata. I think Sakimoto is great. I agree there were some overly epic parts to his score, but he had a few moments of brilliance.

some examples The stilshrine of Miriam, seeking power, Eruyt Village, time for rest, white room, were just great imo.

[Timm]

I never completed XII either.
It just lacks mojo or something.
the music is boring, the places look boring, the story is boring, the characters are boring.
it's like an mmorpg without any other players online.

sometimes it seems to me that the more graphic power is available the less phantasy and creativity is put into the visual presentation of games. everything in current generation adventures and rpgs just looks so goddamn same, the architecture, the landscapes, everything seems to be in even the same set of dull colours...

topic change:
in VI I'm about to go to the magic flying continent where kefka and gestahl are about to do mischief with the three statues. is there any sidequest I should to do before I go there? I got Mog in my party already, anything else?
I already tried to go to the new old continent but these imperial drone thingies wipe out my most of my characters with just one attack so I figure I have to do some lvl-ing anyway now.

[FakePlasticTrees]

I liked a few of the characters in XII. Balthier and Ash were pretty cool, in my opinion. The rest were forgettable, which is the reason why I can't remember any of them, with the only exception going to that superfag Vaan.

[Happy]

I thought Ashe was annoying.
At least everyone didn't have an American accent.

[Timm]

balthier seemed to be interesting when you first meet him but then it's just gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuhhhhhha :o
fran could have been somewhat cool but the bunny ears ruined it. and the name reminds me of that nanny in that old tv show
and I don't even remember who ash was =|
I can't say much about vaan since there's not much to be said. vaan's life summary: Me wants to a sky pirate aaaarrrrrrr. the end

[Happy]

Ashe was the princess or something.

[Timm]

FF goes kinda downhill since the frequent implementation of princesses

pre princess age
FFVI = good
FFVII = good
FFVIII = good

princess age
FFIX = ok
FFX = bad
FFXII = ugh

[spitfirejunky]

Honestly though, Vagrant Story has one of the best soundtracks in videogame history.

The Japanese agree.

[Happy]

FFIX was awesome.
Thats the only princess exception.

[Timm]

wait I just realized there was no princess in FFX, was there?
:confused:

It's funny how I remember more IX characters than XII characters eventhough it's been like 5 or 6 years since I played IX and only a couple of months since I played XII

[Happy]

Haha yeah, I could probably name everyone from VII, VIII and IX but I struggle past that.

[Kill Everything V2]

I got Revenant Wings, and the battle system is pretty cool.


Lol Vaan got his wish :-\

[The Transporter 2]

for the cast not to be so one dimensional?

[Kill Everything V2]

I meant

Hes a sky pirate

i never played ff12 im just guessing from what im reading here :p

[The Transporter 2]

oh.

anyway...do you guys remember PHUNBABA

[Liberi Fatali]

Ya but XII had tough parts in the actual story.
I would say no tougher than X.

:upset: Sakimoto is so ****ing awesome.
Nevertheless he royally stuffed up in XII.


wait I just realized there was no princess in FFX, was there?
Rikku kind of? lol. She was the daughter of the Al Bhed leader.

I agree there were some overly epic parts to his score, but he had a few moments of brilliance.

some examples The stilshrine of Miriam, seeking power, Eruyt Village, time for rest, white room, were just great imo.
I don't know, I see a few moments of brilliance but then Sakimoto always seems so willing to quickly transition into some bombastic orchestral segment. To the Place of Gods starts off beautifully, but he chops up the beautiful flute segments with generic string segments. I agree with you on The Strilshrine of Miriam (though it isn't without fault), but more often than not the music lacks spirit and the beautiful moments are met with segments of dull and uninspired strings.

Thankfully though the piano collection is decent. Which you can listen to for free at last.fm.
http://www.last.fm/music/Various+Artists/Final+Fantasy+XII+-+Piano+OST

[Happy]

oh.

anyway...do you guys remember PHUNBABA

What's that?

[existanceisfutile]

FF goes kinda downhill since the frequent implementation of princesses

pre princess age
FFVI = good
FFVII = good
FFVIII = good

princess age
FFIX = ok
FFX = bad
FFXII = ugh

IX was only OK!? Dude, that game is only one of the best in the series. Not to mention it's a homage to the older FF's. It's one of the most underrated FF's unfortunately.

and are all the reviews on XII just a load of **** or what? they're all like, say it's really good and stuff. yet, it's kind of not. :l

[MAthiAS]

Yeah didn't XII get like a 10/10 on some site that was supposedly really harsh with their ratings?

[BurningSky]

XII is really cool for about 10 hours, then it gets REALLY old, and there is still about 40 hours left of the game...

[Happy]

Yeah didn't XII get like a 10/10 on some site that was supposedly really harsh with their ratings?

Because they probably only played a few hours of it.

IX was only OK!? Dude, that game is only one of the best in the series. Not to mention it's a homage to the older FF's. It's one of the most underrated FF's unfortunately.
Couldn't agree more :)

[FakePlasticTrees]

I really enjoyed IX as well. Can't really remember much about it now as its been years since Ive played it last.

And I liked X as well, despite having a mind-numbingly annoying prat for a main character.

[Happy]

I probably like IX the most 'cos its the one I've played least.
I'm gonna buy it off ebay.

[spitfirejunky]

IX's battle system was somewhat dissappointing, and some plot moments came off too similar to FFVII.

It's still a good game though.

[MrConeman]

Tidus was obviously the princess in X.

[Happy]

True, I never thought of that.

[Timm]

ninjas keep owning me in FFVI :mad:

btw MAthiAS, I like your avatar so I stole it :)

[FakePlasticTrees]

I want to try XI, but I can't be buggered to pay the monthly fee. :I

[RetiredAt21]

What's that?

He was a boss in FF VI.

[Chrysostom]

are all the reviews on XII just a load of **** or what? they're all like, say it's really good and stuff. yet, it's kind of not. :l

I've come to suspect that the perfection of the series earlier in its life has rendered the games magazines/reviewers slow to actually review the successive installments truthfully out of respect for the generally high quality of the series more generally.

[Brew]

I started a new game on X last night :)

[Happy]

are you bored yet?

[MAthiAS]

Why would you want to do that?

[fingers mccoy]

stfu x was one of the best ffs

[Brew]

I liked X, hence the new game.

I feel like working my way backwards through the series, starting at X.

ninjaedit: And I need something to fill the gap between now and when I get my DS around March time for FFIII and eventually the funky new version of IV.

[spitfirejunky]

Have fun testing your sanity with monster-hunting.

[Brew]

Damn Tidus has an annoying voice.

Oh well.

[Anglachel]

I liked X, hence the new game.

I feel like working my way backwards through the series, starting at X.

ninjaedit: And I need something to fill the gap between now and when I get my DS around March time for FFIII and eventually the funky new version of IV.
and FF12 Revenant Wings!
Unless you hate the idea of playing a RTS FF/on the DS but it really is a lot of fun.

I'm almost done it and theres plenty more missions that you can do afterward

[Brew]

I don't really like the idea of anything to do with FFXII, but I might give Revenant Wings a try.

[MAthiAS]

I would probably play RW if I had a DS.

[Happy]

I'd buy it if i had any money

[Anglachel]

I just beat Revenant Wings, it was awesome

[Timm]

I just found out that I have two copies of IX o_0
so if someone wants it here I give it away for postage :)
one cd 3 and one cd 1 is missing though, hence me having two copies and I keep the full copy of course :D

[Happy]

woo I'll have it!
rep me your email and i'll send details.

[Timm]

woo I'll have it!
rep me your email and i'll send details.
I forgot to mention that it's the german version, I doubt that you still want it
I'm sorry :(

(posting on english speaking forums always makes me forget that I actually speak german =/ )

[Happy]

I don't think that'll be a problem, I'll figure it out lol :p

[Timm]

u srs? :D
ok, but like I said, you only get the jewel case, disk 2 and 4 and the booklet. all in german language and I don't think there's any way you can select english
I rep'd you my email though if you really want it (I couldn't tell whether your reply was a joke or not :D)

**** must spread to rep you 0_o

[guitrguy]

I've still got my English version.

[MAthiAS]

Dude you need to change your avatar this is confusing the piss out of me.

[Timm]

Dude you need to change your avatar this is confusing the piss out of me.

ok :(

*looks for avatar*

done

[Happy]

u srs? :D
ok, but like I said, you only get the jewel case, disk 2 and 4 and the booklet. all in german language and I don't think there's any way you can select english
I rep'd you my email though if you really want it (I couldn't tell whether your reply was a joke or not :D)

**** must spread to rep you 0_o

ok lol, i'll rep you mine.

[MrConeman]

Haha, why do you want the German version, Happy?
You crazy cat.

[Happy]

cos its better than having no version :D

[Timm]

email is on its way

I still don't quite get you. ok you'll only pay postage but for a german version with two disks missing :confused:

[penelope weird hands]

Been playing FFVII recently.
I'm up to the bit where Tifa and Cloud get sucked into the lifestream after Weapon attacks in Mideel and they both explore Cloud's subconscious to find the real 'him'.

What a ****ing magnificent game.
Characters, plot, music.. everything.

EDIT: spalleng mesteaks.

[Brew]

That part of the game is awesome, but I never used to like seeing Cloud rocking back and forth in the wheelchair when I was younger :-\

[MAthiAS]

Been playing FFVII recently.
I'm up to the bit where Tifa and Cloud get sucked into the lifestream after Weapon attacks in Mideel and they both explore Cloud's subconscious to find the real 'him'.

What a ****ing magnificent game.
Characters, plot, music.. everything.

EDIT: spalleng mesteaks.
Word. It really is amazing.

[Timm]

That part of the game is awesome, but I never used to like seeing Cloud rocking back and forth in the wheelchair when I was younger :-\

yeah that was terrible. in a good way.
cloud is the character you identify the most with right from the start, the tough cool loner and then you find him in such a terrible condition, as if he had to die of parkinson any minute...
but of course he rises from the ashes like phoenix again after finding his true self :smoke:

[IgniteYourAvail]

Seriously. No game gives me more memories and stuff when playing it more than FFVII.

[Chrysostom]

Seriously. No game gives me more memories and stuff when playing it more than FFVII.

That's so true. The best FF yet, hands down.

[-Listy-]

That's so true. The best FF yet, hands down.

agreed..im just worried about the ''itz ovarated'' people seeing us! :(

[Chrysostom]

agreed..im just worried about the ''itz ovarated'' people seeing us! :(

Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm scared...hold me. :(

But seriously, it ain't our fault if they don't know pure genius and quality when they see it.

[FakePlasticTrees]

I like Xenogears better. :eek: :eek:

[Chrysostom]

I like Xenogears better. :eek: :eek:

Then, unfortunately for you my friend, you shall burn in Hell for all eternity where evil demons in the guise of FFVII characters will hack, beat or shoot you with their trademark weapons.

[Liberi Fatali]

Nah I'm pretty sure God is a pretty big Xenogears fan.

For those interested, the Lost Odyssey OST is available now. (check out the http://gh.ffshrine.org/ forums for a download link). It's the latest Mistwalker effort, composed entirely by Nobuo! I was disappointed with Blue Dragon's music as were many, but the Lost Odyssey OST is proving to be wicked. A strong return to form for Uematsu.

I think the only reason why I might ever get a 360 is for Lost Odyssey, thats if it turns out good as it looks and good as its music though.

[Mister_Che]

Nah I'm pretty sure God is a pretty big Xenogears fan.

Indeed, even though you "kill" "God" eventually. Damn I hated the second disc, though.

[MAthiAS]

Nah I'm pretty sure God is a pretty big Xenogears fan.

For those interested, the Lost Odyssey OST is available now. (check out the http://gh.ffshrine.org/ forums for a download link). It's the latest Mistwalker effort, composed entirely by Nobuo! I was disappointed with Blue Dragon's music as were many, but the Lost Odyssey OST is proving to be wicked. A strong return to form for Uematsu.

I think the only reason why I might ever get a 360 is for Lost Odyssey, thats if it turns out good as it looks and good as its music though.
Nice man I'll definitely check that out later.

[Brew]

w00tw00t

I'm getting a DS Lite either tonight or tomorrow from a friend. Its coming with Rayman and New Super Mario Bros which is pretty cool. Gonna get FFIII sometime next week :)

[Anglachel]

FF3 was alright. You don't really have any reason to change your jobs throughout it, I started with a Warrior, Monk, White Mage, and Red Mage and ended with a Knight, Monk, Devout and Magus. I think I had a Dragoon for a boss battle or something but that was it.

[Brew]

Hmm.

That sounds pretty good, but I guess for replay value you can try going through with an all White Mage team or something.

Hopefully by the time FFIV is out I'll be done with III :p

[Chrysostom]

Nah I'm pretty sure God is a pretty big Xenogears fan.

That is...unfortunate.

Cool avatar btw.

In other news, I'm on a mission to buy Final Fantasy Origins, Anthology and FFVII ever since I found out they existed (and were in PAL format) last weekend. Seen some screens and they all look awesome fun. Retro FFs ftw.

[Anglachel]

Hmm.

That sounds pretty good, but I guess for replay value you can try going through with an all White Mage team or something.

Hopefully by the time FFIV is out I'll be done with III :p
I'm playing 5 Advance now so I guess when comparing the two and their job systems I'd feel that 5 is better because of the abilities.

[Brew]

V advance was pretty awesome, I got quite far (to the part where someone [i won't say who just incase you're not that far yet] dies) then college started back and I didn't have much time to keep playing :(

[fingers mccoy]

like everyone dies in that game

it's amazing

[MAthiAS]

I thought FFV was crap tbh, haven't played Advance though.

I wish there were DS and PSP emulators around.

[Brew]

I thought FFV was crap tbh, haven't played Advance though.

I wish there were DS and PSP emulators around.

FFV wasn't great 'til it got updated for the GBA. I wonder if they'll eventually re-make V and VI for the DS. That would be pretty cool.

[Happy]

I got FFIX yay!

[FlyingPaul_83]

I like Xenogears better. :eek: :eek:

me too :eek: :eek:

FFV is cool, its a little lacking in some aspects (story, characters), but I'm enjoying it. Love the music of course.

[Echleon]

I really can't understand why everyone rates XII so highly.

I really really dislike the battle-system and if just ruins the entire game in my opinion.

[Timm]

lol
I really like the battle system and think the rest of the game ruins it...
but um yeah no one in this thread rates XII better than mediocre I think

[spitfirejunky]

I really can't understand why everyone rates XII so highly.

I really really dislike the battle-system and if just ruins the entire game in my opinion.

Hehe, actually most people agree with you. I personally think the battle system is mediocre but the plot is very good.

All in all it's not a game I'd swear by, but it's a worthy addition to the anthology.

[The Transporter 2]

the storyline in xii is comparable to having the main character do nothing other than sleep

[MAthiAS]

lol
I really like the battle system and think the rest of the game ruins it...
Same pretty much, I think the battle system was ok to good.

Materia system definitely the best besides Tactics jobs and ****.

[Anglachel]

V advance was pretty awesome, I got quite far (to the part where someone [i won't say who just incase you're not that far yet] dies) then college started back and I didn't have much time to keep playing :(
I already know Galuf dies

The game isnt bad at all so far

EDIT: there are working DS emulators out

[Lionheart1827]

I really can't understand why everyone rates XII so highly.

I really really dislike the battle-system and if just ruins the entire game in my opinion.

I hate the battle system. I hate the music(sounds more like the phantom menace), I dont like the main characters except Bash, I hate the license system. It was cool at first, but it got so boring.

Oh yeah and the story sucks, too.

[Liberi Fatali]

- XII's story was alright on paper. But then the execution blew.

- I thought the battle system had its merits, but then again so did X's in my mind.

- The music blew yeah. Though from others recommendations I have found a couple songs that are alright, though in the context of the game I can't say they stood out. Whereas with every other Final Fantasy I've played there has been music that has stood out and made you notice it.

- The liscence system took a good concept in X's sphere grid and took it in the wrong direction.

Basically I agree with most things being said on the game in this thread. On a more positive note though, Lost Odysseys OST by Nobuo Uematsu continues to grow on me, I'm not going to compare it to his strongest efforts (VI through to IX), but there is a lot to like, and a lot that seems reminiscent of previous songs. Tosca Village reminds me so much of the simple tunes of IX like Frontier Village Dali. The other town themes like Saman, Town of Merchants are also beautiful. The battle themes sound ready to be covered by the Black Mages. The harp version of Eclipse of Time too is quite beautiful, very gentle and enticing.

[Happy]

Hehe, actually most people agree with you. I personally think the battle system is mediocre but the plot is very good.



What plot?

I liked the battle system, but that's because I didn't use gambits.

[MAthiAS]

The story was very confusing from what I played of the game. It also seemed like the characters you control didn't even matter that much to the story.

Liberi where's your avatar from? Its quite cool.

[Liberi Fatali]

The story was very confusing from what I played of the game. It also seemed like the characters you control didn't even matter that much to the story.

Liberi where's your avatar from? Its quite cool.
www.myspace.com/jast_art

[Happy]

I won the Festival of the Hunt thing on FFIX
I got magically better at this game.

[Echleon]

Ah right, I swear when the game was released quite a few people in this thread were bigging it up :S Oh well, I was probably mistaken.

FFX had an awesome battle system really, I don't see why they changed the battle system so drastically when it had worked so well in previous games.

What didn't Nobou do the soundtrack in the first place? And also, what is everyone opinions on Square Enix? Have they actually produced a decent game since the merger?

And.... Lost Odyssey looks pretty good, has anyone got it yet?

[fingers mccoy]

what do you mean you won? who won? freya's the only one who gets anything decent

[Happy]

what do you mean you won? who won? freya's the only one who gets anything decent

I won as Zidane. I know Freya's is best, but I've never managed it before.

[fingers mccoy]

oh i see

yeh i recently played through that thing hardcore, finally got up to 300 on the skipping game in alexandria

[Happy]

I gave up at 156.
do you get the Alexandria card at 200?
cos if you do, I'll be kicking myself.

[fingers mccoy]

haha yes, you do. my one was pretty awful tho.

[Brew]

That skipping game, is far too addictive and horribly tedious.

Trying not to blink for 200 jumps is a twat.

[Happy]

I swear I can't do it, everything just goes grey.

[Chrysostom]

That skipping game, is far too addictive and horribly tedious.

Trying not to blink for 200 jumps is a twat.

One day I will find a way to actually enter the game itself and shoot those kids with the skipping rope.

[Happy]

Vivi, use fire on the rope!

[Chrysostom]

Vivi, use fire on the rope!

Ha ha ha. That whole side game would have been infinitely improved if you were allowed to use Amarant for it.

[Brew]

I finally got a DS a few days ago and bought FFIII earlier. Gonna make a start on it a bit later this evening :)

[Anglachel]

So, how ya feeling it so far?

I beat FFV Advance today. I liked it. Quite a bit tbh.

[Brew]

It wiped me out within half an hour of playing, the first dungeon is a bit tricky but after a bit of level grinding it was ok.

I've got the Enterprise and have just been to the empty Castle Argus.

My thoughts on FFIII DS so far...it reminds me alot of FFIX, which is a good thing. The graphics are great if a big laggy at times and gameplay is simple. Using the stylus to move characters etc...got boring within 5mins though. The music isn't brilliant yet, but I'm assuming its better than the NES versions music :p I'd say its worth the £25 I payed for it :)

Current party setup - Black Mage (Luneth), Monk (Arc), Red Mage (Refia), Warrior (Ignus).

[Anglachel]

Why is it that the starting character is who everyone makes the black mage? :S

I always make him a Warrior/Knight/Dragoon/etc.

I started playing Dawn of Souls. After I chose their classes (in 1) and played it a bit, I learned that the monk gets **** later on. Can you change their classes in game at some time?

[FlyingPaul_83]

^nah, they do upgrade though. Monk turns into Master Monk or something, warrior into Knight, black mage into into black mage wizard or something.

Man I love that game. Bahamut in a chair is lol.

[Happy]

finding chocographs on IX is annoying. I swear you can't find them all until you have an airship :(

[suspect]

man i so ****king want to play FFIX again, but my ps2 is so old and worn out that it won't read the game :\

[Brew]

finding chocographs on IX is annoying. I swear you can't find them all until you have an airship :(

The whole Choco Hot & Cold game is a pain in the arse, the only fun thing about it is watching a giant bird smack its head into the ground when you want it to.

Why is it that the starting character is who everyone makes the black mage? :S

I always make him a Warrior/Knight/Dragoon/etc.

I started playing Dawn of Souls. After I chose their classes (in 1) and played it a bit, I learned that the monk gets **** later on. Can you change their classes in game at some time?

Luneth looks like too much of a pansy to be a decent Warrior.

As far as I can remember you can't change classes in I, but while a monk might be a bit poopty during the middle of the game I think they get better again towards the end.

[spitfirejunky]

Only thing I remember about that game is using the flying chocobo to get Zidane's strongest weapon.

And the card game was a vast improvement from FFVIII.

[Brew]

IX's card game was more fun, but VIII's was much easier to understand.

I saw today that the UK now has FFI + FFII out for the PSP. £20 each. If I had a PSP, I'd consider getting FFI.

[The Transporter 2]

the characters in FFVI are awesome

shadow
sabin
edgar
cyan
ryan
celes
terra
locke
gogo
umaro
strago
relm
gau

oh and mog

[Otherside]

I just started playing xenogears again jesus I love this game



oops wrong thread

[The Transporter 2]

yeah you probabl

[Happy]

man i so ****king want to play FFIX again, but my ps2 is so old and worn out that it won't read the game :\

But ps2s are dirt cheap these days

And the card game was a vast improvement from FFVIII.
VIII's was better for me. You can only have 100 cards in IX which is annoying

[MAthiAS]

VIII's card game was far superior.

[fingers mccoy]

with all the rules VIII's system was awesome

and it was very relevant to the game whereas in ix, it's mainly for completism

not really a fan of pointless completism

[Happy]

I hated the random rule in VIII, other than that it was great.

[Chrysostom]

I can honestly say I never bothered with the card games in either VIII or IX, though I did like to try to collect the actual cards and get a full set, which I never did.

[MAthiAS]

The big card quest thing in VIII was a very nice addition to the game.

Man, I really want to play through VIII or IX now. These games carry so much nostalgia value for me.

[Liberi Fatali]

I preferred VIII's card game, enjoyed it much more and the cards were cooler too. Really hated playing Edea at the lighthouse though for the Edea card. God that was a pain in the *** to win.

I'm replaying IX atm for nostalgia, just heading to the ice cave on the first disc.

[fingers mccoy]

ix is much better for a replay

[MAthiAS]

I preferred VIII's card game, enjoyed it much more and the cards were cooler too. Really hated playing Edea at the lighthouse though for the Edea card. God that was a pain in the *** to win.
Yeah, man its so bad when random starts to spread.

I think I've only played IX through like 1.5 times so I think I will start a new game on it.

[Brew]

The big card quest thing in VIII was a very nice addition to the game.

Man, I really want to play through VIII or IX now. These games carry so much nostalgia value for me.

Same here, but with VII aswell.

I just never find the time to play through them, and each game has its moments of screwing up on my PS2 - VII glitches so I can see Cloud but everything else is a techni-colour blur after some battles, VIII refuses to play the opening FMV so I can't start a new game and IX has a few FMV problems aswell.

Ah well, least I've got III to keep me occupied for now :)

[Happy]

Brew, you'll just have to rebuy 'em like me.
My FFVII original wouldn't play the opening FMV either and I literally broke disc two so I had to ebay it.
With FFIX i only had two discs and they were acting crappy. Ebay.

One thing that makes me a little bit sad though, is that I had the FFVIII picture discs, ie the ones with Squall and Rinoa on them. Now I've just got crappy platinum ones.

[Brew]

I'll probs re-buy them later this year.

My current copy of VII is platinum and was 2nd hand when I got it, VIII and IX are picture disc versions.

[MAthiAS]

Same here, but with VII aswell.
Yeah word. I replayed VII last summer, so damn good.

I don't know if my games are in crap condition or my PS2 is getting ready to die, I had a lot of trouble playing VII so I got some scratch remover stuff which helped a bit... but DVDs skip a lot on my PS2 as well, even when they appear to be in good condition and don't skip on my DVD player.

[Kingofdudes]

You guys know there are playstation emulators and roms now? Google search the epsxe. with the epsxe, you can even just stick the psx disc into your computer and play it on there.

http://snesorama.us/board/forumdisplay.php?f=21
^^All the games you could ever want, they even have both Saga Frontiers!

[Happy]

wow. I just need to fix my pc now

[Mister_Che]

So I need to have the actual CD? Damn...

[fingers mccoy]

no you can dl

it's how i play star ocean 2

[Kingofdudes]

So I need to have the actual CD? Damn...


nah either have the actual CD or download the ISO from the site I posted

[Kainen]

i'm gonna get slammed but I hated FFVIII and this is coming from someone with a friggin FF tattoo thats played almost all in the series.

[fingers mccoy]

i don't hate it but i can see that

[Kainen]

I just didnt care about the characters. The draw system was awful - I found myself sitting in the same spot way too early in an FF game farming magic. getting paid randomly cuz your in some kind of army thing bothered me too.

[fingers mccoy]

the regular pay was cool and all, but the game basically had a system that let players with a little bit of patience build near-invincible parties right from the very beginning

this applies both to the draw/junction system and the seed rank tests, cause i passed a couple of those tests just answering yes to all the questions, seeing my mark and working out which answers were incorrect by process of elimination.

and of course, after a couple of hour long boss battles, my party was completely ripped to the tits with magic so that the only challenge in the entire game was omega weapon

so yeh, altho it's obviously my abuse of it that led the game to feel this way, i dont think the system is strong if it's so easily exploited in a way that completely butchers the pacing

it had an enjoyable plot and good non-player characters tho i think. good sidequests as well. and music.

[Brew]

You guys know there are playstation emulators and roms now? Google search the epsxe. with the epsxe, you can even just stick the psx disc into your computer and play it on there.

http://snesorama.us/board/forumdisplay.php?f=21
^^All the games you could ever want, they even have both Saga Frontiers!

I've known of these for ages now, I just have a craptastic web connection at the moment :(

[Chrysostom]

For those of you who played through IX with the idea of having Dagger and Steiner as permanent team members, how did you cope/rectify the problem of their disappearance? I always found that by the time they returned the other half of my party (Zidane and Vivi) were way more powerful and the discrepancy annoyed me.

[fingers mccoy]

if you get the bloodsword early on then at some point in disc 2 you can level steiner just tapping x cause alexandrian soldiers keep initiating battles with you and you can just cut them down and reap the hp and exp

that's with marcus, after you break out of that swinging cage

i watched some tv while tapping x (after killing off marcus)

so that's a dirty trick for getting up to level 30 or so with little boredom involved

as for dagger, well, i just never really cared about her level, i don't think it makes so much of a difference until you're at a stage in the game where it's easy to farm like mad, cause she's just a healer, it's all about her abilities

cant remember if she gets regen, but that and auto-potion usually have it covered for me so her support moves are much more important

[Anglachel]

I've got pseven and have had it for ages

I've used snesorama before too

[Kainen]

I just kinda plowed through FFIX and never looked back...

[Liberi Fatali]

The storylines, the music and the worlds of VIII and IX and the way they pulled me in make me forget any shortcomings of the two.

[Chrysostom]

The storylines, the music and the worlds of VIII and IX and the way they pulled me in make me forget any shortcomings of the two.

That, and the fact that they had no shortcomings anyway.

/controversializes

<_<

>_>

[Kainen]

i'm waiting anxiously for FFIV DS... oi

[MAthiAS]

i'm gonna get slammed but I hated FFVIII and this is coming from someone with a friggin FF tattoo thats played almost all in the series.
You have an FF tat? Post some pics bro.

[MrConeman]

Yeah, pixorlies.

[Brew]

i'm waiting anxiously for FFIV DS... oi

Apparently its good, very good.

[Chrysostom]

if you get the bloodsword early on then at some point in disc 2 you can level steiner just tapping x cause alexandrian soldiers keep initiating battles with you and you can just cut them down and reap the hp and exp

that's with marcus, after you break out of that swinging cage

i watched some tv while tapping x (after killing off marcus)

so that's a dirty trick for getting up to level 30 or so with little boredom involved

as for dagger, well, i just never really cared about her level, i don't think it makes so much of a difference until you're at a stage in the game where it's easy to farm like mad, cause she's just a healer, it's all about her abilities

cant remember if she gets regen, but that and auto-potion usually have it covered for me so her support moves are much more important

Ah, that's a nice little tactic you have there my friend. Might have to steal it if I ever get round to starting IX again. Cheers.

[Kainen]

You have an FF tat? Post some pics bro.


Well its on my myspace, but I can't access that at work because its a blocked IP. Also my myspace is private so you can't view unless your my "friend".

I'll have to post it up when i'm at home or on lunch break.

[Mister_Che]

My fiance saw the Greiver pendant and wants it on her shoulder.

She totally stole my idea.

[Anglachel]

I stopped playing 1 because I'm going to start it over later (Monk/Master sucks. Defense is the monks level, and he gets nil to little mdef? He wont live much against faster enemies later on then :-\) and started 7 instead.

I didn't know Tifas tits were so big in game lol

[Chrysostom]

My fiance saw the Greiver pendant and wants it on her shoulder.

She totally stole my idea.

Your fiance is awesome. Seriously.

I'll totally steal her.

[Liberi Fatali]

I've got the griever pendant necklace. :cool:

While wearing it I feel so cool and so incredibly nerdy at the same time.

[Mister_Che]

I've got it too, and one of the rings. :cool::cool:

[The Transporter 2]

I've got the griever pendant necklace. :cool:

While wearing it I feel so cool and so incredibly nerdy at the same time.

you should probably just feel incredibly nerdy

[Happy]

I've got it too, and one of the rings. :cool::cool:

I probably shouldn't be jealous but I am.

[MAthiAS]

Well its on my myspace, but I can't access that at work because its a blocked IP. Also my myspace is private so you can't view unless your my "friend".

I'll have to post it up when i'm at home or on lunch break.
Quoting because I really want to see this.

[Kainen]

I wanna get some of it re-done, money pending.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2qu1zls.jpg

[Kingofdudes]

bad ***, ****in bad ***

[FlyingPaul_83]

thats is sick dude :thumb:

[Brew]

That could go down as being the best post in this thread, ever.

[MAthiAS]

Seriously bad frickin ***.

[Happy]

Makes me want one, and i usually hate them.

[Chrysostom]

Kainen, I want to hump your leg.

[Kainen]

well thanks a lot everyone!


I've been thinking about getting amano's leviathan across my back.

[The Transporter 2]

i just want to be the one person to point out how incredibly nerdy that is

[Timm]

there's a table dance bar in my city called 7th heaven :cool:
someday I go there and ask for tifa :)

[Brew]

^Awesome.

FFIII - good.
Hein - bad.

[Kainen]

i just want to be the one person to point out how incredibly nerdy that is

yeah its pretty nerdy but my social life counteracts any nerdish qualities.

[Anglachel]

The Sephiroths in FF7 (final battles) were so disappointing :(

Even Super Nova didn't wipe anyone out. I just megalizered then carried on.

My ending party was Cloud, Yuffie and Cid.

[MrConeman]

The final battles in VII weren't dissapointing for me the first time round. Given I was like 9 years old and hadn't leveled my party probably beyond level 60.

But yeah, if you level up enough to beat Emerald and Ruby, the final battles are going to be a dissapointment.

[RetiredAt21]

Beating Emerald and Ruby was so kickass.

[Happy]

The Sephiroths in FF7 (final battles) were so disappointing :(

Even Super Nova didn't wipe anyone out. I just megalizered then carried on.

My ending party was Cloud, Yuffie and Cid.

But still, they were cool.
My final party was Cloud, Cid and Vincent.

[The Transporter 2]

The Sephiroths in FF7 (final battles) were so disappointing :(

Even Super Nova didn't wipe anyone out. I just megalizered then carried on.

My ending party was Cloud, Yuffie and Cid.

using megalixirs or elixirs in any final fantasy game is sacrilege

[fingers mccoy]

haha yeh unwritten rule of play is that you don't elixir ever, cause that's dick, unless you're using it on a zombie, which is ace

[The Transporter 2]

more cost effective to use phoenix/fenix downs tbh

[Kainen]

I totally beat FFVII 8 months before it was released in the US and I don't know a lick of japanese.

I still loved it even though there was no story for me.

[RetiredAt21]

The story was what I really liked it about it when I first played through it.

[MAthiAS]

using megalixirs or elixirs in any final fantasy game is sacrilege
Omg yeah I would die rather than use one.

I did a low level game on FFVII and the final battles were still quite easy. Bizzarro Sephiroth is a fun battle though if you don't have KOTR.

VII story still blows me away. Especially when you're in Midgar, that's my favorite part.

[RetiredAt21]

I like Nibelheim. What went down there was pretty cool.

[fingers mccoy]

has anyone got the excalibur 2 in ix

thinking of trying it but the pal version is very slow

[Timm]

I don't have crazy goals like that anymore :( :)
now I only play games for the story and that's it. maybe beating the uber enemy, only maybe.
no more 100% madness for me :D
I even failed to pick up VI in the last weeks to level up my characters since I rushed through the game so far and now get owned hard by random encounters :(
I hate leveling up, I think WoW stands no chance to get me addicted to it (or even to make me start playing it, to begin with)

[The Transporter 2]

ffvi dinosaur forest is the best place to level after the world crashes