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MrConeman
02-14-2007, 10:30 AM
Can't beat Vincent really.
Vincent is awesome.

The Transporter 2
02-14-2007, 10:31 AM
know how i beat him? by never using him. ever

RetiredAt21
02-14-2007, 10:38 AM
He's not that great of a character. His limit breaks kinda suck.

Chrysostom
02-14-2007, 10:39 AM
I thought IX had good characters...

Tru dat.

Can't beat Vincent really.
Vincent is awesome.

Tru dat.

I liked IX quite a bit at one point

IX is an excellent game in many respects. It's biggest problem in my eyes was the inconvenient way the story panned out.

-Listy-
02-14-2007, 10:49 AM
Vincent's a cool character but his limits are pretty useless.

On my last playthrough I used Cid for the first time all the way through and I have to say: Cid > Vincent x 10

/flame protective suit on.

The Transporter 2
02-14-2007, 10:51 AM
why is vincent a cool character? his entire storyline consisted of "i used to be a turk and they did weird **** to me. the end."

-Listy-
02-14-2007, 10:52 AM
Well i liked it :p and his costume was cool as well.

MrConeman
02-14-2007, 11:03 AM
why is vincent a cool character? his entire storyline consisted of "i used to be a turk and they did weird **** to me. the end."
Because thats really stupid reasoning, you can use it for any of the characters.

Cloud:
"I'm angsty, grr, I was in soldier, oh wait I wasn't, Zack, Sephiroth, the end"

Cid:
"I wanted to go to space, but I couldn't, damn"

Sephiroth:
"I always knew I was different, I'll burn a village"

Aeris:
"I'm an ancient, holy, oops, dead."

Barret:
"Ow, why'd you shoot off my hand?"
I think I've made my point.

The Transporter 2
02-14-2007, 11:07 AM
yeah, but you can also add more to theirs. not really to vincents...granted he is a "hidden" character, but still

Chrysostom
02-14-2007, 11:15 AM
Vincent's a cool character but his limits are pretty useless.

On my last playthrough I used Cid for the first time all the way through and I have to say: Cid > Vincent x 10

/flame protective suit on.

I like Cid. He's an awesome character with some good limit breaks. I plan to use him on my next run through. I'm thinking I'll break down character use like this:

End of Midgar > Nibelheim: Cloud, Aeris, Tifa

Nibelheim > City of the Ancients: Cloud, Aeris, Vincent

City of the Ancients > Cloud goes mad: Cloud, Cid, Vincent

Cloud goes mad > Cloud returns: Cid, Vincent, Barrett

Cloud returns > End: Cloud, Cid, Vincent

MAthiAS
02-14-2007, 02:52 PM
I tried to replay VII today (snow day woot) but my disc won't work anymore =(

Man, new copies of this are goddamn expensive.

-Listy-
02-14-2007, 03:05 PM
****, I just looked on ebay and theres one going for $125 :lol: yeah right, it doesnt help when every other copy has like 20 bids on them..

Luckily I found one for about £15. :cool:

Lionheart1827
02-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Wow I haven't posted in here in a long time, for fear I'd run into FFXII spoilers since I've been really busy.:thumb:

I started a guitar remix of Devil's Lab from FFVI.

Here is a sample if anybody is interested.:thumb:

http://media.putfile.com/devils-lab-sample

I might need somebody to do bass when I'm completely finished with it.:thumb:

Jim
02-15-2007, 01:25 AM
Wow I haven't posted in here in a long time, for fear I'd run into FFXII spoilers since I've been really busy.

:lol: Me too. Only a couple of weeks and it'll be in my hands.

PAL territories ftw

Lionheart1827
02-15-2007, 01:29 AM
:lol: Me too. Only a couple of weeks and it'll be in my hands.

PAL territories ftw

It sucks because I've had the game since it came out early November, but I've been so busy with school I haven't had much time to play it.:thumb:

RetiredAt21
02-15-2007, 10:12 AM
I'm glad mine still works...

Chanandler Bong
02-15-2007, 10:35 AM
Mine as well, though I have several extra, sealed copies of the game. :)

Happy
02-15-2007, 10:43 AM
Mine still works despite all the crap i've done to it.

RetiredAt21
02-15-2007, 10:47 AM
Now I'm in the mood to play FF VII.

-Listy-
02-15-2007, 11:29 AM
Im at the end on my current playthrough although i've kinda given up, im trying to level up my mime materia and everytime its got about 100 AP to go I end up getting killed and then I have to start again from like 10000 AP and I can never be bothered :(

I've never beaten all the weapons before and I want to this time :angry:

MrConeman
02-15-2007, 11:31 AM
tbh mime is definatly not an essential to kill the weapons.

RetiredAt21
02-15-2007, 12:52 PM
I didn't use mime to kill either of them.

Happy
02-15-2007, 04:21 PM
Im at the end on my current playthrough although i've kinda given up, im trying to level up my mime materia and everytime its got about 100 AP to go I end up getting killed and then I have to start again from like 10000 AP and I can never be bothered :(

I've never beaten all the weapons before and I want to this time :angry:

You need to find those hopper things in the Northern crater that give like 80 AP per one you kill.

And your squad's the same as mine :D

I've managed to defeat all the weapons but I'm pretty disappointed that after the toughest battle you get a crappy Golden Chocobo which you needed before the battle if you were to have any hope at beating Ruby.

MrConeman
02-15-2007, 04:30 PM
You need to find those hopper things in the Northern crater that give like 80 AP per one you kill.

And your squad's the same as mine :D

I've managed to defeat all the weapons but I'm pretty disappointed that after the toughest battle you get a crappy Golden Chocobo which you needed before the battle if you were to have any hope at beating Ruby.

The rewards for beating them were crappy. Honestly though, the real reward was actually beating them, I was well happy the first time.

The Transporter 2
02-15-2007, 04:31 PM
ruby weapon does not require KOTR. all you have to do is equip the mystile and final attack > phoenix/life. his ultimas will miss you most of the time and when they kill you, you will be revived.

Happy
02-15-2007, 04:42 PM
But KOTR makes it so much easier. Plus everyone can mime it unlike Omnislash.

-Listy-
02-15-2007, 04:48 PM
You need to find those hopper things in the Northern crater that give like 80 AP per one you kill.

And your squad's the same as mine :D

I've managed to defeat all the weapons but I'm pretty disappointed that after the toughest battle you get a crappy Golden Chocobo which you needed before the battle if you were to have any hope at beating Ruby.

Yeah the little hopper things give the best AP, but they're pretty rare I think, bah i'll go back to the Northern Crater next time I can be bothered playing :p.

Cloud, Cid, RedXIII ftw :p.

I didnt really like Cid or RedXIII before but I decided to use them this time and their limit breaks are pretty good, Cid's moreso. ( Highwind :cool: )

Red's final limit was pretty disappointing though, doesnt it only deal 9999 damage to one target or something? I can't remember.

The Transporter 2
02-15-2007, 05:02 PM
i had cloud equipped with said equipment/materia and while everyone else died immediately, i still dominated ruby weapon

The Transporter 2
02-15-2007, 05:07 PM
i had cloud equipped with said equipment/materia and while everyone else died immediately, i still dominated ruby weapon

RetiredAt21
02-15-2007, 07:43 PM
i had cloud equipped with said equipment/materia and while everyone else died immediately, i still dominated ruby weapon

Word, that's what I did.

-Listy-
02-15-2007, 08:44 PM
So what did you use to damage them if you didnt use KOTR?

I have the final attack materia so i'll try it out.

MrConeman
02-15-2007, 09:12 PM
So what did you use to damage them if you didnt use KOTR?

I have the final attack materia so i'll try it out.

Just make sure to go into the fight with everyone on a limit break (hopefully you have their last/best ones).
If your attacks are taking alot of damage (9999) have 4Xcut on someone if you happen to not have any summons doing more than 9999x4.

Really though, other than KOTR its Omnislash ftw.

-Listy-
02-15-2007, 09:18 PM
thanks for the help.

broken_
02-16-2007, 03:05 AM
some characters final limit breaks suck compared to their previous ones because they can't break the 9999 dmg due to them hitting only once. omnislash is your best bet. if it aint doing enough damage, goto that underwater ship and gather a bunch of sources to stack your stats.

spitfirejunky
02-16-2007, 03:25 AM
I went to the sunken Gelnika and Morph'd the **** out of everything for stat boosters.

Then I fought the Weapons the hard way.

My line-up was Cloud, Barret and Cid, and all their limit breaks put in very decent damage.

broken_
02-16-2007, 03:52 AM
as annoying as the character is, Yuffie packs a lot of *** kicking

RetiredAt21
02-16-2007, 07:40 AM
Yuffie really pissed me off when she stole my materia. Stupid bitch.

The Transporter 2
02-16-2007, 09:34 AM
So what did you use to damage them if you didnt use KOTR?

I have the final attack materia so i'll try it out.

cloud's regular attack + counter attack materias help a ton

plus if you go into battle with lucky7's that helps too

MrConeman
02-16-2007, 11:50 AM
Yuffie was pretty annoying at that part, but she ended up being a favourite of mine.
I almost always had her in my final battle party.

RetiredAt21
02-16-2007, 12:57 PM
She only had a couple good Limit Breaks. I didn't really use her that much.

thomas is fast
02-16-2007, 01:23 PM
Just finished FFIII on the DS.
It wasn't very good...

MrConeman
02-16-2007, 01:45 PM
She only had a couple good Limit Breaks. I didn't really use her that much.
this is true.
She was fun though, motion sickness and that.

RetiredAt21
02-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Just finished FFIII on the DS.
It wasn't very good...

I heard the Job System rules, but the story and characters are very flat and boring.

thomas is fast
02-16-2007, 01:59 PM
It was really nice being able to switch (from a wide variety) of jobs at any time you wanted.

The story was extremely boring. The characters were too. The only thing you knew about them was that they were orphans.

The gameplay was basic. What I really didn't like is that before the last dungeon I had to level up for about 5 hours. Way too much just leveling up.

It was an alright game to play while you're on the go though.

MrConeman
02-16-2007, 02:05 PM
In a turn of events, it seems I'll be having a very boring night in tonight.

Should I re-watch FFVII Advent Children?
y/n

RetiredAt21
02-16-2007, 03:00 PM
I've never seen Advent Children. Is it cool?

MrConeman
02-16-2007, 03:15 PM
its pretty sweet yeah. I didn't include spoilers btw so read on safely

I have a few major and minor problems with it, but on the whole it's definatly good.
Minor problems would be fan-boyish things, like they didn't have enough locations in the movie, only a few places from the game are seen or mentioned. And the additions to the cast aren't all that great, but they get by.
Another minor problem was Cait Sith's voice. On the whole I thought the voice acting was great, especially Barret, Cid and Vincent, but Cait Sith's voice was terrible.

Major problem with it is that Cloud and Tifa are the only characters that get enough screen-time, the rest of the major cast from FF VII, are totally shunted into about 10 minutes total. They also ****ed up what the Turks were about. The Turks in the game are this bad-*** organization that do things the Shinra officials shouldn't really do, in the movie they are babbling idiots put there for some cheap comic relief, though they did have some sweet bits too.

Story wise, in comparison to the game is majorly lacking, but in general I think they did well with what they had, after all you could easily spend 40-50 hours playing FF VII developing the story, whereas the movie lasts under 2 hours, so yeah they definatly did o.k

Overall it's a good addition to the story, and if you're a compulsive fan there is a few guaranteed moments to bring out the fanboy in you.
Worth a download at the least.

btw. I should also add that the action sequences are truely second to none, they are fantastic.

The Transporter 2
02-16-2007, 03:24 PM
FFVIIAC is awesome. It has almost everything that any good movie has: lack of plot, tons of awesome fight scenes...the only thing it's lacking is boobies

-Listy-
02-16-2007, 03:34 PM
MrConeman, that little review of AC was spot on :)

MrConeman
02-16-2007, 03:39 PM
:) I live to give.

Chrysostom
02-16-2007, 06:39 PM
Minor problems would be fan-boyish things, like they didn't have enough locations in the movie, only a few places from the game are seen or mentioned.

The other game locations were irrelevent. Explain to me what significance Wutai, Rocket Town or the Gold Saucer have, or could have, in relation to Cloud's journey of self-forgiveness concerning Aerith's death.

Major problem with it is that Cloud and Tifa are the only characters that get enough screen-time, the rest of the major cast from FF VII, are totally shunted into about 10 minutes total.

The entire point of the film was to resolve Cloud's issues left over from the game, what do the other characters have to do with this?

They also ****ed up what the Turks were about. The Turks in the game are this bad-*** organization that do things the Shinra officials shouldn't really do, in the movie they are babbling idiots.

Shinra has collapsed by the time of AC. The Turks are at a loss since there's no company telling them to go and do 'bad *** things. They are at a loss so what did you expect from them? Also, they served as a little comic relief in the game as well (see Rude's affection for Tifa).

Story wise, in comparison to the game is majorly lacking.

Not at all. It completed it's aim of resolving Cloud's storyline.

after all you could easily spend 40-50 hours playing FF VII developing the story, whereas the movie lasts under 2 hours.

Exactly. Knowing this, why are you criticizing the storyline?

MrConeman
02-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Chill mang. Smoke a joint or something, you're taking this a tad too seriously, if you really think that movie was flawless or something it's just the FFVII fan-boyism, sorry, but it is.

For anyone having not watched AC past here will contain spoilers probably the whole time.

The other game locations were irrelevent. Explain to me what significance Wutai, Rocket Town or the Gold Saucer have, or could have, in relation to Cloud's journey of self-forgiveness concerning Aerith's death.
I realize this, hence it was defined in my post as a fan-boyish minor problem, I just would have loved to have seen a few other places given the treatment of those beautiful visuals. On their significance, I realize in the story as it stands, they had none, hence I'm fine with them being left out, what I'm saying is, it would have been nice to write a few more in, ya get?

The entire point of the film was to resolve Cloud's issues left over from the game, what do the other characters have to do with this?
The fact that they themselves have a major role in Cloud's life?
Or I should say they did in the game, now I do see your point, the story was very much about Cloud's issues, again I'm just saying it would have been nice for at least Barret to have had more screen time, he was pretty much the closest to you in the game other than Aeris/Tifa.

Shinra has collapsed by the time of AC. The Turks are at a loss since there's no company telling them to go and do 'bad *** things. They are at a loss so what did you expect from them? Also, they served as a little comic relief in the game as well (see Rude's affection for Tifa).

This I disagree with completely. Yes, in the game they served as some comic relief, such as when Reno/Rude discussed which girls they liked best, or when they were on a break in Wutai so they would not fight you, or when Reno/Rude bullied Elena a little (hehe).
But seriously, yes Shinra was brought down before AC even started, the Turks remained active and at that point are trying to condone for the part they had in ruining the planet.
Just because they became more clear good guys than what they were before doesn't mean they had to become babbling fools, in the game Reno by himself was able to stand against three members of your party early on, and at least delay you long enough to cause the Pillar collapse. Yet in the movie he just gets made to look like a fool against Cloud. (Yes I understand at this point Cloud is much stronger than he was on the Pillar in Midgar, but you must see my point?)
Also when Reno/Rude went up against the brothers they got completely ruined. I just think it was an injustice for them to be taken down so easily after having put up three good fights against Clouds party during the events of the game.

Not at all. It completed it's aim of resolving Cloud's storyline.
It completed its aim, yes. I wasn't disputing that with what I said, it had a well thought out story, in fact I was very pleased. I was just warning Retired... that the movie on its own does not stand up to the epic story that was FF VII so don't expect something on that scale, and obviously you'd agree with that, just a simple mis-understanding of my words in that post.

Exactly. Knowing this, why are you criticizing the storyline?
Again, I wasn't, the story is great in the film, it just doesn't stand up to FF VII, for the obvious reason of time, and it wasn't really based around the whole planet this time, that took a side step more-so to Clouds story, or at least thats what I got from it.

I'd also like to add that all things said in my previous post, and this post, are just my opinions, you shouldn't get all worked up.

RetiredAt21
02-17-2007, 09:25 AM
This is just a little too in depth. I need to smoke a joint. :lol:

The Transporter 2
02-17-2007, 09:31 AM
yes because that will help you comprehend thigns better

Chrysostom
02-17-2007, 11:10 AM
Chill mang. Smoke a joint or something, you're taking this a tad too seriously.

I'd also like to add that all things said in my previous post, and this post, are just my opinions, you shouldn't get all worked up.

Yeah I know that man. I wasn't getting worked up. I too was merely putting my opnions across in response to yours, no one was taking anything seriously. One of the problems of the 'net is inability to convey tone of voice in what you type. Had I been able to do that, you'd have seen I wasn't worked up in the slightest.

MrConeman
02-17-2007, 11:39 AM
lousy interbox :(

I just got done watching Advent Children again, I think I really do enjoy it more and more every time I watch it as I piece together more of the story, take more of it in, and gather the meanings behind it.
Also a nice reminder of just how awesome FF VII really is, those characters and locations and music are just locked in with my child-hood memories, really was a special game for me.

I was also watching the bonus features, theres an interview on there with Tetsuya Nomura, at the end of it he said he something like he didn't feel like he had closure on the story.
Possible continuations of the VII universe.

blink1822222
02-18-2007, 07:25 AM
Can anyone help me with ff8. I'm stuck on disc 4 near the start, i'm stuck on adel. My characters are level 50 something 50 something and 42. am i screwed? should i start a new game?

-Listy-
02-18-2007, 08:21 AM
you shouldnt need to, just summon cereburus if you have him, make sure you have shell and protect on all your characters, dont use gf's because they'll damage rinoa, and keep and eye on her health and cure her when she gets drained by Adel.

if you have any aura magic just use peoples limit breaks, Irvines and Zell's would be good.

hope that helps.

MrConeman
02-18-2007, 09:12 AM
if you have any aura magic just use peoples limit breaks, Irvines and Zell's would be good.

hope that helps.

That's exactly how I always beat her, just lots of Aura and Zells limit break.
I can't remember because its been a long time since I played it, but I think you can cast protective magic on Rinoa, or something that I cast on her that helped.:confused:

RetiredAt21
02-18-2007, 09:57 AM
I think I should try to play FF VIII again...maybe I won't hate it this time.

Chrysostom
02-18-2007, 10:28 AM
I think I should try to play FF VIII again...maybe I won't hate it this time.

Yes, you should. It's an awesome game.

Happy
02-18-2007, 11:02 AM
I wish the characters in VIII would level up like in VII.

Then I wouldn't have one really good party and one terrible one.

-Listy-
02-18-2007, 11:14 AM
terrible one = Selphie, Quistis, Rinoa?

was for me.

MrConeman
02-18-2007, 11:16 AM
I always switched Irvine and Rinoa randomly from party to party so that I usually had one good character in the sucky party

Happy
02-18-2007, 11:16 AM
Selphie, Quistis, Irvine.

Irvine just wasn't cool to me.

MrConeman
02-18-2007, 11:23 AM
I love that theres a general consensus that Selphie and Quistis always sucked it up in that sucky second party.

Happy
02-18-2007, 11:25 AM
They're really lame characters.

Chrysostom
02-18-2007, 01:51 PM
Irvine just wasn't cool to me.

Wah!?

My lame party was always Zell, Selphie and Quistis.

Happy
02-19-2007, 05:52 AM
He had long hair and I thought that was gay when I was about 7.

Now I have long hair, he's cool :)

Kaleid
02-19-2007, 05:59 AM
Zell was easily the best of the six. If you were fast enough, his limit break would just go on and on. But Quistis was really useless.
I only ever played FF7, 8 and 9. FF7 will always be amazing IMO, can anyone recommend any of the newer games that comes anywhere near it?

Happy
02-19-2007, 06:01 AM
Squall was awesome, Lionheart was amazing if you could get it.

After playing again Irvine's limit is awesome too.

Kaleid
02-19-2007, 06:09 AM
Meh, it hurt my finger pressing the R1 button so fast :(

MrConeman
02-19-2007, 07:55 AM
I think Zell's limit breat was the best in FF8.
Not for damage or anything, really, it was just an awesome limit break, once you learned a bunch of his moves you could have that thing go on forever, some bosses got their **** completely ruined by Zells limit break.

The best character in FFVIII though?
Laguna. I mean come on, that guy was just awesome-core.

RetiredAt21
02-19-2007, 08:47 AM
I think I'm gonna try to play FF VIII today. You guys make it sound like I'm missing out on something awesome.

Happy
02-19-2007, 10:05 AM
It gets annoying a lot, especially the space but with Rinoa but if you've never played it then yes you are missing out.

-Listy-
02-19-2007, 10:12 AM
It gets annoying a lot, especially the space but with Rinoa but if you've never played it then yes you are missing out.

That's where I am now.

Happy
02-19-2007, 10:17 AM
Man the bit where you have to catch her is soooooooooooo hard and annoying.

The Transporter 2
02-19-2007, 10:25 AM
Final Fantasy IV you fly to the freaking moon.

RetiredAt21
02-19-2007, 11:22 AM
That's so awesome when you go to the moon. FF IV kicks ***.

The Transporter 2
02-19-2007, 11:29 AM
Meteo!!!!!!!!!!!

MrConeman
02-19-2007, 12:51 PM
It gets annoying a lot, especially the space but with Rinoa but if you've never played it then yes you are missing out.

I HAAATED that the first time. I was like 10 years old so it took me awhile to figure out you had to kill those giant aliens in colour order. I actually quite enjoy that bit now, theres some great stuff that goes on.

I need to go get my FF8 disks cleaned and finish my current game. (only on disk one and it crashes when Garden takes off)

RetiredAt21
02-19-2007, 01:28 PM
Meteo!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol, that old bastard died.

Happy
02-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Lol, that old bastard died.

Jeez thanks for ruining it :angry:

RetiredAt21
02-19-2007, 02:35 PM
In my defense, you totally see it coming. It's not that big a surprise.

BurningSky
02-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Quistis' limit break is really useful when you are powering up your characters on Cactuar island and the islands closest to heaven and hell...

You keep her HP really low and then use Degenerator on every enemy. You get massive amounts of experience and AP very quickly...

Happy
02-19-2007, 02:52 PM
Haha Cactuar Island.

Man Giant Cactuar was so cool.

I loved the secret GFs in VIII.

Chrysostom
02-19-2007, 03:57 PM
The best character in FFVIII though?
Laguna. I mean come on, that guy was just awesome-core.

The best characters were Squall and Irvine. As for Laguna's side of the story, Kiros and Ward were way cooler.

The Transporter 2
02-19-2007, 04:03 PM
plz lets get back to pre VII discussion.

sup when that dude in IV gets hit by meteo and turns into a crawling hand. Evil Dead II anyone?????

Liberi Fatali
02-19-2007, 04:06 PM
Irvine sucked. From his hair to his persona to his missing Edea, he annoyed me to no end.

Chrysostom
02-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Irvine sucked. From his hair to his persona to his missing Edea, he annoyed me to no end.

He was better than Zell 'OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Look I'm "hilariously" OTT about everything' Dincht.

spitfirejunky
02-19-2007, 06:23 PM
Leguna > all

Man with the Machine Gun \m/

My lineup was Squall, Zell and Rinoa for strategic purposes.

I'd have replaced Zell with Quistis, but his limit break (code: Armageddon Fists) is better than Squall's when done right.

Rinoa spamming overpowered Meteors is about the most hilarious way to kill Omega Weapon.

Lionheart1827
02-19-2007, 11:50 PM
plz lets get back to pre VII discussion.

So uhh, yeah, the Falcon = best airship music ever? IMO, yes.:thumb:

Happy
02-20-2007, 07:34 AM
He was better than Zell 'OH YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!! Look I'm "hilariously" OTT about everything' Dincht.

WHAT DID YOU JUST CALL HIM!!!?

comedy should not be in FF cos it's always so cheesy and lame.

MrConeman
02-20-2007, 07:44 AM
Leguna > all

Man with the Machine Gun \m/

My lineup was Squall, Zell and Rinoa for strategic purposes.

I'd have replaced Zell with Quistis, but his limit break (code: Armageddon Fists) is better than Squall's when done right.

We seem to share a thought process.

Chrysostom
02-20-2007, 09:04 AM
WHAT DID YOU JUST CALL HIM!!!?

comedy should not be in FF cos it's always so cheesy and lame.

Ha ha ha ha. That was great. Zell was such a lame character.

Agreed on the comedy.

BurningSky
02-20-2007, 09:13 AM
Spoony Bard..!

Chrysostom
02-20-2007, 09:37 AM
Irvine sucked. From his hair to his persona to his missing Edea, he annoyed me to no end.

He didn't miss. It was a direct hit but she blocked it with a forcefield.

blink1822222
02-20-2007, 10:05 AM
That's exactly how I always beat her, just lots of Aura and Zells limit break.
I can't remember because its been a long time since I played it, but I think you can cast protective magic on Rinoa, or something that I cast on her that helped.:confused:

Haven't played the game in about 2 years, so how do I limit break again?

Happy
02-20-2007, 10:10 AM
Get down to Yellow health and an arrow should appear next to attack allowing you to limit :)

FF12 comes Friday guys :eek:

Mr. Ron
02-20-2007, 10:59 AM
What are your guy's opinion's of FF9?

Happy
02-20-2007, 11:08 AM
I love it as much as FFVII, my second favourite.

Mr. Ron
02-20-2007, 11:13 AM
Yeah I like the "old" feel to it too. I haven't finished it yet though. I stopped playing it about 9 months ago and forgot about it, but i'm going to start it up again tonight.

Happy
02-20-2007, 11:17 AM
Where did you get up to?

BurningSky
02-20-2007, 11:19 AM
IX is m second favorite as well. Some of the minor characters were a bit undeveloped, but the story was pretty sweet and I loved the setting...

-Listy-
02-20-2007, 11:19 AM
I liked that old feel to it as well, some of the scenes were great too, like when you're getting chased by the black mage on the airship at the start and he crashes into the gate.

Plus, 'You are not alone' is one of my favourite FF songs.

Happy
02-20-2007, 11:25 AM
Omg how good is the Bahamut vs Alexandra cutscene?

Mr. Ron
02-20-2007, 11:33 AM
Where did you get up to?

I think when I was in the "subway" trying to navigate those tunnels.

-Listy-
02-20-2007, 11:46 AM
Omg how good is the Bahamut vs Alexandra cutscene?

very nooice, same with Odin mauling Cleyra.

I made one of those fan videos years ago with different cutscenes from the games. I used Raining Blood by Slayer and it started off with when Aeris gets killed ( i had to :(, the effects on the song fit in perfectly ) then cut to when Queen Brahne uses Bahamut and it turns on her when the fast part before the verse comes in, can't remember what other videos I used..it pwn'd though :p.

Theres the bahamut video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LNNHgsqIog

Wish I still had it.

Chrysostom
02-20-2007, 02:39 PM
IX is a very good game, though I have yet to finish it. Plans are afoot to that end though. Excellent world and pretty good story. It seems more involved than the two before it, like when I think of all the places you go, it feels like a massive game.

MrConeman
02-20-2007, 03:15 PM
Did IX have an over-world map?
I really can't remember it much, other than the copy I had borrowed off my friend crashed everytime you got to the Lifa Tree, and I never got any further.

Chrysostom
02-20-2007, 03:44 PM
Yeah it has a world map. A bloody good one.

The Transporter 2
02-20-2007, 03:55 PM
So uhh, yeah, the Falcon = best airship music ever? IMO, yes.:thumb:

Yeah, that was back in the day when you could actually fly the airships.

Lionheart1827
02-20-2007, 08:21 PM
Yeah, that was back in the day when you could actually fly the airships.

The good oleeee days.:thumb:

MrConeman
02-21-2007, 11:00 AM
Yeah, definatly.
I'd love to see the over-world maps come back, and being able to pilot your vehicles.
But it wont happen, the world map graphics were never great and I don't think game makers would take that risk these days when they really are priding themselves on the graphics of the game. :(

blink1822222
02-21-2007, 11:03 AM
So that means XII won't have controls like the Ragnarok???? I'm disappointed :(

The Transporter 2
02-21-2007, 11:17 AM
i'm like 50 hours into FFXII and haven't been able to fly the airship myself, so I'd assume that the most you could ever use it for is to "go to this location or that location"

MrConeman
02-21-2007, 01:12 PM
I assume the airship in XII is exactly like 10. You speak to whoever is piloting and tell them where to go, then you just appear there.

(btw 2 days until XII is out in PAL regions :))

Mr. Ron
02-21-2007, 01:14 PM
Not sure how I feel about FF10. I hated the characters and wanted the text boxes back, but at the same time there were cool environments and stuff.

MrConeman
02-21-2007, 01:36 PM
It doesn't really stand up to the Final Fantasy name, especially with time. But overall I've always thought it was a reasonably solid game.
I know when it first came out (given, I was like 13) and I was first playing through, I thought it was great. I got over it though, and it comes out as one of my least favourite FF games. It's worth a play though, if only for the environments and stuff, which by the way are awesome, it was set in a good world, and everything looked fantastic in that game.

Collis
02-21-2007, 02:49 PM
Huzzah my FFXII was posted yesterday (Preordered off play.com) so fingers crossed it will be in the mail tomorrow. You know, I always like getting addicted to a computer game, it saves spending A LOT of money in the pub ...

Liberi Fatali
02-21-2007, 03:33 PM
IX is a very good game, though I have yet to finish it. Plans are afoot to that end though. Excellent world and pretty good story. It seems more involved than the two before it, like when I think of all the places you go, it feels like a massive game.Yeah, it really is great.

I find that IX really is a game that grows on you. At first I thought it was pretty good, but with each run through I found myself getting more and more involved in the storyline, the characters and the world. Whilst it isn't my favourite of the modern FFs, it is probably the one I've replayed the most.

Brew
02-21-2007, 07:18 PM
'sup guys

I got a job, w00t. Job = money = FFXII (once my debts are paid off)

Glad to see this thread is still going :)

-Listy-
02-21-2007, 08:27 PM
Welcome back. What you been upto other than getting a job?

Lionheart1827
02-21-2007, 08:52 PM
Yeah, definatly.
I'd love to see the over-world maps come back, and being able to pilot your vehicles.
But it wont happen, the world map graphics were never great and I don't think game makers would take that risk these days when they really are priding themselves on the graphics of the game. :(

You ever play Skies of Arcadia? Best overworld/airship concepts ever. Ship battles were awesome and also being able to modify your ship equipment. I'm surprised other developers havent tried using this kind of airship thing. Not to mention tons of discoveries located all over the giant world map. Definitely one of my fav rpgs ever.:thumb:

broken_
02-22-2007, 12:25 AM
you dont get to control the airship ever in xii

spitfirejunky
02-22-2007, 02:48 AM
What are your guy's opinion's of FF9?

I felt they weakened the story in an attempt to make it consistent with past themes. I didn't like how they fit the plot with the "oldness." And the battle system didn't have much depth.

The soundtrack and cut scenes were phenomenal though. And the card game was fun as hell.

All in all, it's worth playing once through for old time's sake.

-Listy-
02-22-2007, 03:55 AM
I think i'll try recording a cover of an FF piece today :) although I suck at the whole mixing/editing, etc process.

Liberi Fatali
02-22-2007, 04:58 AM
Final Fantasy XII is so close I can taste it.

Kaleid
02-22-2007, 05:17 AM
Am I sad for wanting the FFVII soundtrack? I dunno, it's just for nostalgia I suppose. I used to really like the 'Jenova' music. I looked on a few sites but it's ridiculously expensive (£34.95 was the cheapest)

-Listy-
02-22-2007, 06:37 AM
www.ffdream.com

its on there if you dont wanna spend the money.

Happy
02-22-2007, 07:34 AM
Am I sad for wanting the FFVII soundtrack? I dunno, it's just for nostalgia I suppose. I used to really like the 'Jenova' music. I looked on a few sites but it's ridiculously expensive (£34.95 was the cheapest)

Haha no way man, I think everyone in this thread has it.

Brew
02-22-2007, 09:20 AM
The FFVII OST is amazing.

Which reminds me to download the FFV OST sometime..next time I'm at m'girlfriends house I'll abuse her fast internet connection (I have probably the slowest broadband going)

to Listy - I'm full time at college at the moment studying for a Foundation Diploma in Art, once thats over I'm going to Uni to study Fine Art, mainly painting. Other things are going well for me..my band is going strong with a number of gigs booked over the next few months with some pretty big bands, we're releasing a split-cd and a new demo soon..so generally been pretty busy and forgetful about posting here.

I've been thinking about playing through FFIX again, but can't find the time for it, argh :(

MrConeman
02-22-2007, 10:01 AM
Am I sad for wanting the FFVII soundtrack? I dunno, it's just for nostalgia I suppose. I used to really like the 'Jenova' music. I looked on a few sites but it's ridiculously expensive (£34.95 was the cheapest)

Not at all. I have the FFVII OST, Piano collection, Advent Children and Reunion sound tracks. :)

-Listy-
02-22-2007, 10:22 AM
The FFVII OST is amazing.

Which reminds me to download the FFV OST sometime..next time I'm at m'girlfriends house I'll abuse her fast internet connection (I have probably the slowest broadband going)

to Listy - I'm full time at college at the moment studying for a Foundation Diploma in Art, once thats over I'm going to Uni to study Fine Art, mainly painting. Other things are going well for me..my band is going strong with a number of gigs booked over the next few months with some pretty big bands, we're releasing a split-cd and a new demo soon..so generally been pretty busy and forgetful about posting here.

I've been thinking about playing through FFIX again, but can't find the time for it, argh :(

Sounds good :).

My band split up recently because the bassist is going to uni, although I think that is a terrible reason to split because:

- I also play bass and could switch to bass easily
- Im sure he'll have time off to do gigs/practise etc.

We had some good songs but now they're of no use anymore :( unless I try re-do them with the new band im setting up. I guess I was the only one that was really committed.


So I began covering an FF song today, this is all I have so far:

http://download.yousendit.com/B5BFC8FC3ECFFADF (hope you recognize it)

Please dont diss my lame guitar skills (or lack thereof) too much. I didn't feel trying to shred would fit in. My terrible MG amp was struggling to cope :lol: It starts at about 14 seconds in for some reason..The drums are dull as hell because I couldn't be bothered making them any better just now
I dunno if I'll continue it..

MAthiAS
02-22-2007, 01:06 PM
vibrato pls k thx would make it sound so much better. it sounds pretty good it just doesn't 'sing' ya know?

Not at all. I have the FFVII OST, Piano collection, Advent Children and Reunion sound tracks.
VII Piano Collection and any of the VIII orchestrated stuff are some of the coolest music i have. so great.

-Listy-
02-22-2007, 01:31 PM
Good idea :p.

The lead guitars were done in the first takes so theres a few mistakes but i'll be sure to work on getting them sound better

blink1822222
02-22-2007, 03:35 PM
FF 12 is out tomorrow british people!!!! :) :) :)

MrConeman
02-22-2007, 03:37 PM
I'll be setting an early alarm and going off to the shops early tomorrow :)

blink1822222
02-22-2007, 03:39 PM
I sold my alarm to be able to pay for this game.

MrConeman
02-22-2007, 03:43 PM
I lol'd.

I've been watching trailers all day, I'm gunna stop now and put it out of my head...or try.

blink1822222
02-22-2007, 03:48 PM
It'll get to you within the next few minutes. Is it just me or did anyone else love the boss music from FF VIII? Made me feel cool as I furiously tapped X because it was the only thing I knew how to do when I first got the game when it came out when I was 11.

Happy
02-22-2007, 04:16 PM
I'll be setting an early alarm and going off to the shops early tomorrow :)

Lol mine comes to my house.

Mister_Che
02-22-2007, 11:26 PM
Is it just me or did anyone else love the boss music from FF VIII?

It's only the greatest boss theme ever.

Happy
02-23-2007, 01:40 AM
Nah I like FFVII's more

broken_
02-23-2007, 01:41 AM
i have the official ff7 soundtrack, piano collection, and a bunch of stuff from the black mages haha. something about dorky asians shredding up RPG music is just amazing.

broken_
02-23-2007, 01:41 AM
Nah I like FFVII's more

agreed.

Liberi Fatali
02-23-2007, 02:48 AM
The music of VIII > The music of VII

Kaleid
02-23-2007, 04:00 AM
The Sorceress fight music from FFVIII was cool and exotic, but FFVII will always rule, IMO. The Midgar funk, the Turks theme, Jenova fight... in fact, the only truly bad one was the Gold Saucer tune. ANNOYING!

blink1822222
02-23-2007, 04:02 AM
(Cue 2001: A Space Odyssey theme music)...

12 is here!!!!!!!!!!!

MrConeman
02-23-2007, 07:06 AM
I have been walking in the cold and rain for 1 hour, and checked 4 different shops, thanks be to God that the 4th shop had some copies left.
(According to my friend who works in the first shop I tried, he couldn't keep me a copy because it had people camping outside it before it opened :lol:)

I'm guna thaw out (my hands are very numb) and then play it...for about 12 hours :)

blink1822222
02-23-2007, 09:10 AM
I'm in process of those 12 hours. I reserved a copy as soon as the pre-orders were available, so I was first to get my copy :).

MrConeman
02-23-2007, 09:13 AM
Playing it now myself.
First impressions are good.
The battle system is much better than I thought it would be,the graphics are wonderful, as I'd expected.
I've only been to a few areas, but whoever they got to replace Nobuo Uematsu as the primary composer is definatly good, the music reminds me of one of my favourite RPG's, Suikoden, good stuff indeed.

Kaleid
02-23-2007, 09:17 AM
Why have they replaced the genius that is Nobuo Uematsu? Is he dead? :(

MrConeman
02-23-2007, 09:31 AM
He left Square-Enix.
But he's said he would work with them again.
And apparently theres one track of his on XII

Lord of Sword
02-23-2007, 09:52 AM
There are also new versions of a lot of his music from the other games, like Prelude, the FF Theme, the Chocobo Theme etc, which are just re-arranged by Hitoshi Sakimoto for an orchestra. He left SE before Advent Children though and still composed the music for that, and I think he was supposed to do 12 originally, so he might score another FF one day.

I like everything about 12 so far though, besides combat. You don't know how strong enemies are until they attack you, which has now ended the game for me twice, and it's practically impossible to run away from battles unless you leave the area completely. Being able to move about in battles also seems pointless when melee attacks hit you however close you are.

MrConeman
02-23-2007, 10:03 AM
Go to the technicks shop and buy Libra.
It's supposed to be like Sense from the other games, thats what I gather from listening to people in the game, I've bought it, but need to get some more liscence points before I can use it.

And yeah, that ended the game for me once too, that was a really large dinosaur..guess I should have known not to hit it...

The Transporter 2
02-23-2007, 10:36 AM
uhh in FFXII the enemy names are either blue, yellow, or red. red means stay away (most of the time), yellow means moderate, blue means easy.

blink1822222
02-23-2007, 03:58 PM
Ok, this game is officially my second favourite FF EVER after VIII. My new third favourite is VII.

The Transporter 2
02-23-2007, 04:16 PM
you clearly haven't played VI

Liberi Fatali
02-23-2007, 04:19 PM
It is best to seperate the modern era and Nintendo era when rating FFs.

The Transporter 2
02-23-2007, 04:26 PM
good point, wouldn't want to outshine the modern era ones...

Brew
02-23-2007, 04:30 PM
/this post is a page late

I have the FFIV, VI, VII, VIII and IX OST's..not sure which I like most at the moment. They're all completley different so its hard to compere..the boss theme from VIII (Force Your Way?) is good, but the Black Mages version is better! Same with Those Who Fight Further (VII boss theme) and The Man With the Machine Gun (the Laguna battle theme from VIII)

I can't afford XII..so instead I completed Crash Bandicoot 100% today :cool:

The Transporter 2
02-23-2007, 05:07 PM
there was a song in the demo to FFVIII that came with Brave Fencer Musashi that didn't make it into the final game called "Running From Dollet" and it was better than everything ever invented

Brew
02-23-2007, 05:12 PM
I played the demo recently and think I know which song you mean..I might give it a spin again later for another listen.

The Transporter 2
02-23-2007, 05:23 PM
back in the day i could never find it on the internet

on second thought i think it was called "Escape from Dollet"

MrConeman
02-23-2007, 05:30 PM
Ok, this game is officially my second favourite FF EVER after VIII. My new third favourite is VII.
Oh c'mon. You haven't barely played it yet. You can't possibly tell where it is on your ratings yet. It's just the newness.

This is pretty awesome though.

Lionheart1827
02-23-2007, 08:28 PM
you clearly haven't played VI

Best FF ever :thumb:

-Listy-
02-23-2007, 08:46 PM
right guys i am drunk so i demand to know

to those of you that have XII

how does it compare to previous FF's

or how is it better in it's own ways

I haven't ordered it yet because of a few reviews i've seen but i still might..

blink1822222
02-24-2007, 04:40 AM
Well, it's completely different from all the PS1 FFs, as you probably already know. They've tried making the battle system so many times, and I think they almost nailed it this time. I also agree with Lord of Sword, the colouring system doesn't work very well, and it gets kind of annoying, but still it is an awesome game. It's also better than the 2 pieces of shite I like to call *whispers quickly* "X and X-2" *breaks down in tears and runs out of the thread*.

MrConeman
02-24-2007, 06:22 AM
That I can agree with.
I'm about 10 hours into it now, and it already pwns X...I think.

Comparing it to the old games...hmm. It has changed alot, but it still has that Final Fantasy feel, which is great. Vaan is much less of a fag than I thought he would be by the way, so he just looks like a fag, but hes kinda cool, doesn't annoy me like Tidus did.
A great thing they have this time is that license system, it's like the sphere grid, only it pwns the living crap out of the sphere grid. You don't have to waste points to move back over things you have already bought, and you can learn to use any weapon with any character, so you really, really can customize your characters as you see fit.

...I guess I didn't really compare it to old FF's there so much as I gave a mini-review of my thoughts on it, but yeah, it has a welcome position in my box of games next to my other Final Fantasy's.

To anyone that has XII: Was getting off the Leviathan airship thing meant to be really hard:eek:

Happy
02-24-2007, 07:07 AM
OMG ff12 owns so far :D

MrConeman
02-24-2007, 12:36 PM
I dunno if I've rushed through and not fought enough or something, but this game is definatly more of a challenge.

I'm taking a break from progressing the story for leveling up though, so I'll be fine.
But yes, this game is quite awesome.

blink1822222
02-24-2007, 03:24 PM
Does anyone else like the storyline, I find it really good and it goes with the game well in traditional FF style. Apart from the traitor which I don't even want to call Final Fantasy (X-2 (I REALLY hate it in case you hadn't noticed from my previous post)) all FFs have had completely seperate storylines.

-Listy-
02-24-2007, 03:46 PM
well you guys have reassured me a bit :) think i'll order it tommorow.

blink1822222
02-24-2007, 04:51 PM
Yeah, you made the right decision. It's probably the best RPG on PS2 at the moment.

MrConeman
02-24-2007, 07:50 PM
I have the following to report:
Quickenings. Are. Awesome.

BurningSky
02-24-2007, 08:16 PM
I obtained the PC version of Final Fantasy VII yesterday. There are some slight differences, most noticeably, the characters having mouths and Cloud's shadow on the world map. There are also some slight differences in the dialogue. Good times all around...

MrConeman
02-24-2007, 08:30 PM
I don't know where I heard this, or even if I did.
But I've always thought I heard that the music in the PC version was of lower quality.
Confirm/Deny?

Lord of Sword
02-24-2007, 08:49 PM
I think the PC version used the standard midi sounds, whereas the PSX one used the console's built-in midi card. Basic midi on PCs doesn't seem to have ever changed over the years, so it sounds worse on the PC since all the songs are streamed/rendered in real time, instead of being stored on the discs as mp3/wav. I've never played the game on PC but I remember hearing that somewhere.

Lionheart1827
02-24-2007, 10:56 PM
Yeah FF7 and 8 had MIDI music, which was crap compared to the originals. However, theres a program on http://www.qhimm.com that uses the original music from FF7 with no problems really. Also a guy made an amazing soundfont for usage with FF8, not perfect, but its very close to the original.:thumb:

I'm one of the people who never owned the original playstation, so those 2 PC ports was all I had after the SNES ones. :D

2muchket!
02-25-2007, 09:54 AM
Roughly about 4 hours into the game and I'm at the end of Barheim Passage.

I love the licenses and Gambits tooo

BurningSky
02-25-2007, 11:23 AM
Yeah, the quality of the music isn't as good as on the PS1. Also, the backgrounds are a bit more pixely...

-Listy-
02-26-2007, 07:42 AM
when FFXII gets here and if it sucks im gonna bust an ultima on yo' asses.

RetiredAt21
02-26-2007, 08:07 AM
Hahaha, nice avatar. :lol:

-Listy-
02-26-2007, 08:23 AM
Thanks :cool:

I was trying to think of something to go along with it like ''One Meeeeelion (something to do with britney spears) but I couldn't think of anything :(

The Transporter 2
02-26-2007, 10:29 AM
I have the following to report:
Quickenings. Are. Awesome.

the first few times you use them they are. after that it gets really boring to watch. it's kinda like the game itself. after your initial impressions, it gets really boring.

Happy
02-26-2007, 02:37 PM
Is it me or is there no good music in FF XII?
well, I suppose there's a few good songs but they all seem to be from earlier FFS, like the music when you load a save file.

-Listy-
02-26-2007, 02:40 PM
Why did Nobuo leave? Was it to concentrate on other projects or something.

MAthiAS
02-26-2007, 02:40 PM
the first few times you use them they are. after that it gets really boring to watch. it's kinda like the game itself. after your initial impressions, it gets really boring.
Yeah definitely. At first I was like, man the battle system is sick and the graphics and this and that, and at a point I'm like, this story is really average.

To be fair with quickenings though, most limit breaks or summons get annoying to watch after the first few times. Quickenings are just so damn long....

Happy
02-26-2007, 02:51 PM
Why did Nobuo leave? Was it to concentrate on other projects or something.

i have no idea, I was always told he was fired.


Probably to enjoy his sweaters though.

The Transporter 2
02-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Yeah definitely. At first I was like, man the battle system is sick and the graphics and this and that, and at a point I'm like, this story is really average.

To be fair with quickenings though, most limit breaks or summons get annoying to watch after the first few times. Quickenings are just so damn long....

the battle system would have been better if you could control your character in real time a la Secret of Mana and then your backup members used gambits. So essentially it's the SoM system with the added bonus of gambits.

Happy
02-26-2007, 03:37 PM
I think the new battle system is a lot like Vagrant Story.

-Listy-
02-28-2007, 04:26 PM
where are all the FF heads tonight?

/unsly bump.

The Transporter 2
02-28-2007, 04:50 PM
I gave back my fren's ps2 so i can no longer play ffxii, but it was getting severely boring anyway

fingers mccoy
02-28-2007, 07:12 PM
i dont have the game but i played it for a straight 12 hours at a mate's house and despite all the bloody lore crap and the RPGed up storyline it really impressed me

the voice acting had some strange choices of accent but i love fran and it's sooooo much less annoying than X

the battle system works quite satisfyingly and eliminates battle screens, plus i love the combos for items cause i got a chain of about 150 sand people things and it was giving me like 2 teleport stones every time

i even quite like the way enemies can turn out to be mad strong in an area where you really wouldnt expect because it gives the sense of being in a big hostile universe and learning lessons blah blah

the only problem i have is the characterisation really

MrConeman
03-01-2007, 06:15 AM
btw, Balthier is Han Solo.

Really though, does no one else think we got ripped off with the characters a tad?
Well two of them anyway, looks and personality, Vaan is Tidus, only younger and less gay, looks and personality Ashe is Yuna, only less annoying.

MAthiAS
03-01-2007, 06:36 AM
btw, Balthier is Han Solo.

Really though, does no one else think we got ripped off with the characters a tad?
Well two of them anyway, looks and personality, Vaan is Tidus, only younger and less gay, looks and personality Ashe is Yuna, only less annoying.
Penelo is Rikku too.

MrConeman
03-01-2007, 06:43 AM
Ohhh yeah. That too. I haven't really been using her much at all, thats why I forgot.

Square have been making that character forever and all, actually.
Penelo = Rikku = Selphie = Yuffie.

Probably others in there but those are the FF's I actually know.

2muchket!
03-01-2007, 08:02 AM
They should just call Penelo "Generic White Mage".


Cos thats all she is tbf.

Happy
03-01-2007, 08:19 AM
Migelo is bender :D
And Wakka.

Vaan is the dancing kid in the video for AAF's Smooth Criminal

The Transporter 2
03-01-2007, 05:16 PM
They should just call Penelo "Generic White Mage".


Cos thats all she is tbf.

you can customize any character to be a "generic white mage" or customize them to do anything and everything. i don't get where your opinion comes from

MrConeman
03-02-2007, 09:24 AM
I think hes linking that more to her personality tbqh.

The Transporter 2
03-02-2007, 10:40 AM
LAWL she rarely says anything that reflects any sort of personality whatsoever. What is she like, "OMFG do you need to be healed????!?!?!"

MrConeman
03-02-2007, 12:48 PM
:(
I haven't played a lengthy amount of time of any FF pre-FFVII, I just thought he might have meant the white mage class characters were like her.

The Transporter 2
03-02-2007, 03:35 PM
white mages = cure magic

Happy
03-02-2007, 04:04 PM
She's a generic high pitched voice annoyance.

The Transporter 2
03-02-2007, 04:07 PM
all the characters in xii are generic. the whole game is generic tbh

Liberi Fatali
03-02-2007, 04:50 PM
FFXII isn't very impressive so far.

The world is immense, but it lacks personality. The characters look cool (although too similar), but their actual personalities haven't been fleshed out much at all. And as I predicted, the music is overly bombastic and does not match the setting and characters like an Uematsu soundtrack would.

And for some reason the partially spoken, partially text based speech really annoys me. I wish they'd just go one way or another.

There are some elements that I can dig though, it feels like I really can explore, rather than being guided.

Dead Star
03-02-2007, 04:53 PM
imo FFXII is pretty awesome so far, I'm about 5 hours into it now.

The Transporter 2
03-02-2007, 05:14 PM
since there is no good storyline or characters the reptitive gameplay will change that soon

-Listy-
03-02-2007, 06:01 PM
I just got done watching FFVII: Last Order

anyone else seen it?

Happy
03-02-2007, 06:05 PM
since there is no good storyline or characters the reptitive gameplay will change that soon

Yeah we get it.
You don't like XII.

The Transporter 2
03-02-2007, 08:51 PM
are all brits jerkoffs?

MrConeman
03-03-2007, 05:21 AM
are all brits jerkoffs?
Not at all.
But really, we do get it, you don't like XII.

Haven't played XII the past two days, I plan to really nerd it out this weekend and just play constantly really, should be fun.

So apparently there was two 40 something page books released to bridge the story gaps between VII and Advent Children, my friend has them and I'm getting copies this monday :)
I think one is a general story gap filler and the other centers around Denzel.
It wasn't written by official people mind you, but the official people haven't spoke out against it, and seem to be accepting it as a legit part of the story.

The Transporter 2
03-03-2007, 11:21 AM
i thought it was illegal to publish things using characters owned by other companies?

blink1822222
03-03-2007, 01:03 PM
My save file got corrupted, and my game broke, so I had to buy a new copy and make a new file, so I'm only on the Leviathan. Vaan is level 11, Basch is 12 Fran is 12 and Vossler is obviously 14, and I'm stuck at the Judges because I rushed through the game and didn't bother power leveling, so I've just been spending time setting off the alarms and trying to level up at the moment. And for anyone who has just started, when you go through Garamsythe Waterway into the palace don't bother saving to a new file, it's very easy.

MrConeman
03-03-2007, 01:16 PM
i thought it was illegal to publish things using characters owned by other companies?
Thats what I was led to believe on Wikipedia anyway.
I think I've misinterpreted. It's probably been somebody from Square-Enix that wrote it, but not the story writers from VII?

I dunno, I'll let the thread know what they are like anyway.

2muchket!
03-03-2007, 02:36 PM
The more I get into the story the more I tolerate it. Altho' the whole obsession with nethicite is a bit well stupid.

Anyway I've recently equipped Vaan with the Blood Sword (I've just progressed into the Golmore Jungle) and Sirius to Balthier. They both pwn so hard.

Chrysostom
03-04-2007, 09:20 AM
I'm a little apprehensive about getting FFXII. It's been made to sound very much like a repackaging of FFX. The inventiveness and originality of FFVIII but especially FFVII seems to have given way to generic characters and plots.

MrConeman
03-04-2007, 09:36 AM
Playing through I'm getting more and more annoyed with the music.
It pretty much sucks.
We want more Nobuo :(

Happy
03-04-2007, 09:42 AM
Theres no good music in it :mad:

2muchket!
03-04-2007, 01:08 PM
All the music in it is shite. Where's the next rival to One Winged Angel :(

MrConeman
03-04-2007, 04:05 PM
All this talk of music made me want to listen to good FF music...all of it other than XII. And I covered Those Who Fight Futher.

To save me typing anymore, heres what I wrote in the guitar forum...

So I've loved this tune since I was like 7 years old, It's a fabulous tune. I was going to cover the original but I decided I'd be brave and give a stab at the Black Mages version, anyway, it's not fantastic, it's sloppy in parts, and theres no tab for this song anywhere ever, so all this is by ear, so the solos didn't work out to well.

For Those Who Fight Futher (FFVII Boss Battle Theme)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PDhOOCLJ-hU

-Listy-
03-04-2007, 08:48 PM
Carrying on from that guitar thread :p.

Yeah I heard something about an award, I heard it was the singer than won an award though, maybe Uematsu got the award for composing it though..

I like and hate that scene where Eyes on me is used..

all that lovey dovey stuff

Why can't I meet the perfect girl then be lost at space with her :upset:

MrConeman
03-04-2007, 08:59 PM
I liked the lovey dovey parts of the games. Alot of fans didn't, but I think it adds to the story majorly and definatly helps in filling out the characters, making them more real.

Except in X, it was just cheesy in X.

...personally I'd rather be on the Gold Saucer Gondola ride with the perfect girl, less aliens you have to kill in colour order.

-Listy-
03-04-2007, 09:02 PM
Haha good point

blink1822222
03-05-2007, 11:04 AM
Theres no good music in it :mad:

I hate all the music as well, sometimes I'll just mute the TV when I'm in a dungeon for a long time. The best piece of music was the FFVIII battle winning music that he remade. It kinda sucked, but it's still the best piece of music in the game.

The Transporter 2
03-05-2007, 11:30 AM
isnt the FFVII boss theme called "Still More Fighting"?

MrConeman
03-05-2007, 12:10 PM
isnt the FFVII boss theme called "Still More Fighting"?

I think thats just the regular fighting theme?
Thats definatly the name of one of the themes, the boss battle from 7 is definatly For Those Who Fight Further though.

The Transporter 2
03-05-2007, 12:23 PM
i think they're the same song, just translated differently.

personally i prefer "Still More FIghting" as the title

MrConeman
03-05-2007, 12:35 PM
That old chestnut.

-Listy-
03-05-2007, 06:07 PM
Can anyone hook me up with a link to get a FFVI rom?

I'm kinda ashamed to say i've never really bothered with the games before VII but alot of people say VI is better and i'd like to give it another shot.

Trying out IV just now, not bad I guess so far.

RetiredAt21
03-06-2007, 09:10 AM
FF IV rules.

The Transporter 2
03-06-2007, 10:48 AM
just search for "final fantasy iii snes roms" or something on google. or just "final fantasy snes rom"

i used to go to this place called the nation or the rom nation or somethin

shouldnt be hard to find

btw FFVI is the best final fantasy.

cpmsmiley
03-06-2007, 11:48 AM
FF is awsome

The Transporter 2
03-06-2007, 11:57 AM
i think that's the general consensus in this thread

Chrysostom
03-06-2007, 03:40 PM
I could have purchased FFIV, V and VI the other day if I'd wanted to. Problem is over the last few years I've become more uneasy with parting with cash.

Actually, is it possible to get Playstation versions of I, II and III or not?

The Transporter 2
03-06-2007, 04:21 PM
ebay

final fantasy anothogy, chronoicles and other crap

MrConeman
03-07-2007, 11:53 AM
Reading those two FFVII books I mentioned earlier.
Finished one, half way through the other.
Good stuff.

Lionheart1827
03-07-2007, 12:09 PM
I think thats just the regular fighting theme?
Thats definatly the name of one of the themes, the boss battle from 7 is definatly For Those Who Fight Further though.

Nah the regular fighting theme is just called Fighting. Boss is Still More Fighting according to the official tracklisting. Those Who Fight Further I believe is just a new name that TBM used for it since Still More Fighting sounds weird:thumb:

Hurry Faster! is the battle music for the battle arena.

The Transporter 2
03-07-2007, 12:16 PM
the original track titles were japanese

still more fighting is one translation
those who fight further is another

TWFF sounds gay, so it draws gays in to the ff universe

blink1822222
03-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Wow, this thread has almost reached 15,000 posts.

I'm still loving FF XII, I think the battle system is better than any of the other ones in the other games. I don't really think any of the characters have a real personality, but still, my favourite is Balthier. I've also come to realise that the storyline is nothing special, but enough to keep me playing for hours on end. Like every other FF :) (I'm not saying they all have bad storylines, I'm saying they all keep me engrossed).

MAthiAS
03-08-2007, 02:37 PM
Wow, this thread has almost reached 15,000 posts.

I'm still loving FF XII, I think the battle system is better than any of the other ones in the other games. I don't really think any of the characters have a real personality, but still, my favourite is Balthier. I've also come to realise that the storyline is nothing special, but enough to keep me playing for hours on end. Like every other FF :) (I'm not saying they all have bad storylines, I'm saying they all keep me engrossed).
Has anyone ever told you your username sucks?

Happy
03-08-2007, 03:24 PM
I haven't had the urge to play XII for a week :(

fingers mccoy
03-08-2007, 04:02 PM
i think its an awesome username

The Transporter 2
03-08-2007, 04:34 PM
the alexandr summon in FFVi is awesome

Liberi Fatali
03-09-2007, 04:26 PM
Hell yeah, I beat the first Demon Wall in the Tomb of Raithwall.
How?

And can you defeat the 1st Demon Wall at a later date? Because it'd be nice if I could come back and defeat that scary bastard later.

MrConeman
03-09-2007, 04:29 PM
Quickenings ftw.

blink1822222
03-09-2007, 05:44 PM
Has anyone ever told you your username sucks?

No, you're the first. People can think what they want about my username I don't care, I can't change it. Plus, irrelevant. You didn't need to quote all of that stuff I said to say how bad my username is.

-Listy-
03-09-2007, 05:47 PM
its ok my email has lostprophet in it.

*made that address about 4 years ago*

*i dont mind 'a town called hyprocrisy anyway'*

*either way bad excuse*


edit- 15000th drunk post

oh yeah muthas :)

/on topic, I should really continue FFVI, I just met Shadow and need to fight that boss on the mountain now.