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MAthiAS
01-28-2006, 07:33 PM
They made 3 games as great as VI consecutively: VII, VIII, and Tactics. :p

Hope XII fails so they have to go back to the drawing board. And bring Nobuo back.

I almost bought FF Chronicles today too. But if the load times are as bad as in Anthology I'll just wait for Revolution or mod an XBox or something.

Liberi Fatali
01-28-2006, 11:03 PM
*200% agreement*

Best intro ever. Game came together so well.:thumb: Up there with the intro to Apocalypse Now!

Man they just don't make games like VIII anymore... If a game like FF VIII was made today, it'd probably break the budget of almost every producer, cept for the big boys like EA, Microsoft, Sony and Namco.

And bring Nobuo back. I don't see why people have been saying that, Nobuo hasn't left. He's just got some young little helpers. Nobody gets rid of Nobuo.

http://www.originalsoundtrack.org/images/artistes/0011.jpg

spitfirejunky
01-29-2006, 02:11 AM
If a game like FF VIII was made today, it'd probably break the budget of almost every producer, cept for the big boys like EA, Microsoft, Sony and Namco.

That's so sad. :(

I recall that Vagrant Story had a huge budget and didn't nearly win back enough money. It traumatized Square, but I loved it.

Happy
01-29-2006, 08:26 AM
I don't see why people have been saying that, Nobuo hasn't left. He's just got some young little helpers. Nobody gets rid of Nobuo.

http://www.originalsoundtrack.org/images/artistes/0011.jpg
I thought he left. I felt sad. Now he hasn't left I feel happy.

Do you think he actually lives at Square's HQ in a cupboard or something with his beloved keyboard wife?

Lord Abortion
01-29-2006, 08:51 AM
He must do...And he commands his minions with his hands of Godliness

DeusExMachina
01-29-2006, 02:03 PM
Wait, what? I read on a pretty good FF news site (don't remember which exactly) that Nobuo is a freelance worker now. Which isn't to say that he won't do FF games, but simply that he isn't an employee of SquareEnix, so he won't necessarily do them anymore. But that could be wrong.

I never got into FFVIII. I'll have to try it again, I guess. Just a bit too much of the future thing for me. And gunblades? Seem very cheesy to me.

MAthiAS
01-29-2006, 02:15 PM
Meh, cheesy weapons are a crappy reason not to like that game.

DeusExMachina
01-29-2006, 02:38 PM
Meh, cheesy weapons are a crappy reason not to like that game.
I didn't say they were the reason I disliked the game. But, if you can't get into a game, cheesy weapons doesn't help. And I do intend to give the game another try.

red barchetta
01-29-2006, 02:57 PM
Wait, what? I read on a pretty good FF news site (don't remember which exactly) that Nobuo is a freelance worker now. Which isn't to say that he won't do FF games, but simply that he isn't an employee of SquareEnix, so he won't necessarily do them anymore. But that could be wrong.

I never got into FFVIII. I'll have to try it again, I guess. Just a bit too much of the future thing for me. And gunblades? Seem very cheesy to me.
i heard that about Nobuo too - he's not a 'proper' member of the Square-Enix team (he isnt in the list of 'composers' in the SE website) but he can still work for final fantasy.

i prefer the ff's set in the past to the future too. its the reason why i prefered 5 and 9 over 7.

MAthiAS
01-29-2006, 03:09 PM
I didn't say they were the reason I disliked the game. But, if you can't get into a game, cheesy weapons doesn't help. And I do intend to give the game another try.
Fair enough.

If given the choice, I prefer futuristic. Probably because my first RPG was Phantasy Star 4. But I still love FFVI and Tactics to death, so its not a huge concern..

HNLzero
01-29-2006, 05:31 PM
Does anyone think that girl from When a Stranger Calls looks like Rinoa from FFVIII?

HNLzero
01-29-2006, 05:33 PM
So I got a bit further into my replay of FFVIII and I'm at the space station bit. The bit when Rinoa drifts into space and Squall goes and saves her is awesome. Gave me the shivers and made me realise how awesome the love story part of the game is. That part has awesome FMV too.
It's probably the best love story in the FF's. It became ever cooler when I actually realized that Juila was Rinoa's mom.

Liberi Fatali
01-29-2006, 05:55 PM
He set up his own label called Smile Please. http://www.smileplease.co.jp/

But he is still working on Final Fantasy XII.

innerdark
01-29-2006, 07:40 PM
ok, the argument about the best ff game...

main pros then main cons

FF7- pros = vincent,cloud, sephiroth, the music, W-Item and tifa
cons= yuffie,too short, aeris dying :( and W-Item

FF8- pros= Squall,deeeeeo story, limit system, lionheart, music again
cons= is a bit annoying sometimes(space station, propagators) Irvine

FF9- haven't played

FF10- pros= good for FF n00bs, blitzball, Anima, Rikku, auron
cons= tidus, auron, cheesy story, a bit too easy

FF10-2- Pros = attempt at continuing the story
Cons= incredibly bad, more or less everything

Liberi Fatali
01-29-2006, 11:01 PM
What was wrong with the space station?

You haven't played IX? Blashphemy!

Blitzball and Rikku were incredibly annoying. Well blitzball was more boring than anything.

Kingofdudes
01-29-2006, 11:14 PM
I started a new FFVIII game today.


Blitzball and Rikku were incredibly annoying. Well blitzball was more boring than anything.
Ugh blitzball.

Liberi Fatali
01-29-2006, 11:18 PM
Did you rename your Guardian Forces?

I had no idea what I was doing first time around and named my Ifrit, HARRY. In caps too. :upset:

Lionheart1827
01-29-2006, 11:20 PM
ok, the argument about the best ff game...

main pros then main cons

FF7- pros = vincent,cloud, sephiroth, the music, W-Item and tifa
cons= yuffie,too short, aeris dying :( and W-Item

FF8- pros= Squall,deeeeeo story, limit system, lionheart, music again
cons= is a bit annoying sometimes(space station, propagators) Irvine

FF9- haven't played

FF10- pros= good for FF n00bs, blitzball, Anima, Rikku, auron
cons= tidus, auron, cheesy story, a bit too easy

FF10-2- Pros = attempt at continuing the story
Cons= incredibly bad, more or less everything

You forgot FF4-6!:angry:

6 blows them all away.

Kingofdudes
01-29-2006, 11:26 PM
FF10- pros= auron
cons= auron a bit too easy

FF10-2- Pros = attempt at continuing the story
Cons= incredibly bad, more or less everything
....mmmkay:confused:
Care to try all of the bosses in the battle arena?
Not nearly as bad as you want to make it sound.
6 blows them all away.
nah
Did you rename your Guardian Forces?
I havent yet, but I think I will. I have quite a few offensive names I could use.

FlyingPaul_83
01-29-2006, 11:27 PM
What was wrong with the space station?

You haven't played IX? Blashphemy!

Blitzball and Rikku were incredibly annoying. Well blitzball was more boring than anything.


the space station isnt annoying, but the propagators can be gay if you dont remember the pattern.

I actually just beat that part in my VIII game. Now I'm at the point where I can do all the card sidequests and get the ultimate weapons etc. Yay!

Liberi Fatali
01-29-2006, 11:29 PM
I like Final Fantasy 6. The more I think about it, the less I know which Final Fantasy is my favourite. But as a series, its certainly my favourite.

Care to try all of the bosses in the battle arena? And if you've got the non-American version, face the Dark Aeons and Penance. They really are harder than anything in any other FF that I can think of. Only Omega (ultima?) Weapon in FFVIII comes close.

the space station isnt annoying, but the propagators can be gay if you dont remember the pattern.

I actually just beat that part in my VIII game. Now I'm at the point where I can do all the card sidequests and get the ultimate weapons etc. Yay! I can't even remember what the propagators are...

MAthiAS
01-29-2006, 11:29 PM
You can do all the card sidequests when you get Garden mobile.

Speaking of which, I'm trying to abolish random from Centra... Random is so crap.

Kingofdudes
01-29-2006, 11:35 PM
And if you've got the non-American version, face the Dark Aeons and Penance. They really are harder than anything in any other FF that I can think of. Only Omega (ultima?) Weapon in FFVIII comes close.
I wish they included them in american version. The Dark Aeons in X-2 are nothing.
I can't even remember what the propagators are...
The big alien things in the space ship.

Random is so crapTruth

FlyingPaul_83
01-29-2006, 11:36 PM
I can't even remember what the propagators are...


They're the huge four legged colored beasts that live in the Ragnorak(sp?) in space. You have to defeat them in pairs other wise they revive eachother.

MAthiAS
01-29-2006, 11:37 PM
Ah yeah, my first play through that took me a good two hours to figure out lol.

Liberi Fatali
01-29-2006, 11:46 PM
There were big four legged beasts in the space ship with me? :|:|:|:|:|:|

I guess I need to play VIII again then, I certainly don't remember any of that.

Happy
01-30-2006, 01:55 AM
They're the huge four legged colored beasts that live in the Ragnorak(sp?) in space. You have to defeat them in pairs other wise they revive eachother.
That scared me so much on first time playing through.

Lionheart1827
01-30-2006, 09:59 AM
That scared me so much on first time playing through.

Yeah, especially the music. And they'd make that creepy scream and run at you.

Also, is it just me, or did the "Jailed" music sound creepy to any of you? :thumb:

Happy
01-30-2006, 10:07 AM
No. It got annoying though after hearing it for hours in prison.

PAJJ
01-30-2006, 10:09 AM
I wish they included them in american version. The Dark Aeons in X-2 are nothing.

They're more part of the story though, so can't be that hard.

Omega from FFVIII was really easy, infact that was probably the easiest one, actually make that VII was the easiest, Cloud = best charcter, i had him near invincible.

I liked blitzball it's the only reason i still play X :upset:

spitfirejunky
01-30-2006, 11:48 AM
^ You sure you're talking about Omega and not Ultima?

Omega gave me a bit of a hard time. The only reason I didn't die was because I looped the money-making trick (Tent and Mega Potion refinement) and refined Mega Elixers that saved my ***. Without those, I would have died from Medigo Flame + Terra Break unless I freeze-framed for Selphie's Full-Cure.

red barchetta
01-30-2006, 11:52 AM
^ You sure you're talking about Omega and not Ultima?

Omega gave me a bit of a hard time. The only reason I didn't die was because I looped the money-making trick (Tent and Mega Potion refinement) and refined Mega Elixers that saved my ***. Without those, I would have died from Medigo Flame + Terra Break unless I freeze-framed for Selphie's Full-Cure.
or you could just modify the Bahamut card into 100 megalixirs.

i didnt have any problems with Omega weapon in VIII. all my characters had a way of healing 100% (recover, elixir, curaga), and a way of reviving a character to 100% of their health (revive, full life). i just used meltdown and a few limit breaks by Squall and Zell and I won.

DeusExMachina
01-30-2006, 12:17 PM
....mmmkay:confused:
Care to try all of the bosses in the battle arena?
I personally found the bosses in the battle arena to be pretty easy. Granted, I didn't have the international version, and apparently the dark aeons and Penance are insanely hard, but I was a bit disappointed with the bosses in the NA release. Plus, it's so easy to overpower yourself in that game. Just use tricks to get sphere points.

Chrysostom
01-30-2006, 12:26 PM
FFX's battle system is good. It allows you time to think tactically, especially with the ability to call in the other characters at any time. Rikku and Blitzball are annoying/boring.

I'm at the Ragnarok/Propagators bit. It's so annoying. Still, once I'm through with it I can fly around and do all the side quest bits.

Anyone else find it annoying/disappointing that the Crusaders caved in and turned to Yevon?

PAJJ
01-30-2006, 12:35 PM
^ You sure you're talking about Omega and not Ultima?

Omega gave me a bit of a hard time. The only reason I didn't die was because I looped the money-making trick (Tent and Mega Potion refinement) and refined Mega Elixers that saved my ***. Without those, I would have died from Medigo Flame + Terra Break unless I freeze-framed for Selphie's Full-Cure.
I haven't played VIII in ages so i could be wrong, i hardly remember anything about it, but i'm quite sure i went through and did everything with no trouble, but this was way back in the day. Quisist was the best i "think" she had an ability that would just kill things instantly.

X's battle system was good, i just don't like the fact none of them are defined to certain abilities, they can all learn everything, which was one of my favourite parts about IX made it a bit more tactical.

Chrysostom
01-30-2006, 12:44 PM
X's battle system was good, i just don't like the fact none of them are defined to certain abilities, they can all learn everything, which was one of my favourite parts about IX made it a bit more tactical.

I dunno, this system is more flexible. Besides, they do have certain abilities which are obviously based on their order, particularly the mages and Rikku.

PAJJ
01-30-2006, 01:03 PM
I dunno, this system is more flexible. Besides, they do have certain abilities which are obviously based on their order, particularly the mages and Rikku.

Yeah i suppose escpecially if your working through the story, but it's when you get to the stage when you want to beat all the dark aeons etc, you move around so much, and boosts stats that all the characters are the same. Maybe it's just me but i like it when the characters are defined as certain types, eg mage, theif.

Happy
01-30-2006, 02:25 PM
I haven't played VIII in ages so i could be wrong, i hardly remember anything about it, but i'm quite sure i went through and did everything with no trouble, but this was way back in the day. Quisist was the best i "think" she had an ability that would just kill things instantly.

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I don't think so, that was Selphie. Her limit "The End" kills things instantly. No matter what it is.

MAthiAS
01-30-2006, 02:32 PM
Tactics job system was definitely the best IMO. It had customization to a point but characters still had definitive roles.

PAJJ
01-30-2006, 02:37 PM
I don't think so, that was Selphie. Her limit "The End" kills things instantly. No matter what it is.

Maybe it was her, again not played it in ages, i just remember a move that killed things instantly, all remember is it not being squall or Rinoa, and i didn't use the chap with the gun, or the guy who punched.

DeusExMachina
01-30-2006, 02:38 PM
I didn't like the battle system in FFX. And, the only value of different characters were their limits, because their stats all equaled out by the end of the game.

HNLzero
01-30-2006, 02:40 PM
I don't think so, that was Selphie. Her limit "The End" kills things instantly. No matter what it is.
Haha, I used that to kill the Ultima in order to get Eden. I restarted my ps2 so many times. :p

Happy
01-30-2006, 02:41 PM
Haha, I used that to kill the Ultima in order to get Eden. I restarted my ps2 so many times. :p
I got it on Omega :cool:

Chrysostom
01-30-2006, 03:03 PM
I didn't like the battle system in FFX. And, the only value of different characters were their limits, because their stats all equaled out by the end of the game.

People don't seem to understand. Just because you move away from a characters designated area doesn't mean you have to have them learn each other's abilities. I'm not.

I'm having them learn their order based stuff, then when I move, say Lulu, to the area with Tidus' abilities, I'm skipping over most of them and concentrating on picking up the HP, MP, defence, magic defence etc nodes.

That's the beauty of the Sphere Grid system, you can define character roles, or have them the same as each other. I fail to see the problem.

red barchetta
01-30-2006, 03:26 PM
In FFX, the problem with having a mage with 255 strength is that it defeats the whole purpose of a mage.

you will have to get every stat of each character to be so high that they arent that different at some point ie. when fighting Penance, Dark Aeons, and some of the later Monster Arena bosses. otherwise you wont stand a chance. and when that happens, like Deux said, the only thing that will separate each character will be their overdrives.

you can only get away with having roles for each character (eg. Lulu being good at magic and Auron being good at fighting with weapons) if you play the game without the sidequests, because, to be honest, the game is extremely easy. not going through the sidequests makes FFX a really dull game.

Chrysostom
01-30-2006, 03:33 PM
Well, I'm at Macalania Wood and I haven't done any sidequests yet, and I think it's an awesome game. But perhaps I'm easily pleased. I don't like the idea of all characters being the same, so this first time round I may well skip the sidequests.

EverytimeIBodom
01-30-2006, 04:11 PM
Best FF out of 1-6?

red barchetta
01-30-2006, 04:13 PM
Best FF out of 1-6?
many will say 6.

but personally, i love 5 to death, since it was my first ever FF. 4 isnt too bad either; it has THE hardest last boss in any FF.

Liberi Fatali
01-30-2006, 04:42 PM
The female characters just looked retarded doing 99,999 damage, it just doesn't look right when their attacks look more like a prod that a hit.

In Final Fantasy X that is.

MAthiAS
01-30-2006, 04:48 PM
Characters doing over 10k generally looks stupid in general.

Edit: As does redundancy :lol:

Lionheart1827
01-30-2006, 08:52 PM
Best FF out of 1-6?

6 imo.:thumb:

MAthiAS
01-30-2006, 10:16 PM
6 imo.:thumb:
I'd have to agree seeing its the only one I've played 1-6.

By the way man your recording of Rage of Ken is cool as hell.

Lionheart1827
01-30-2006, 11:43 PM
I'd have to agree seeing its the only one I've played 1-6.

By the way man your recording of Rage of Ken is cool as hell.

Thanks, the 2nd solo is actually done by HondoII (Myka) from the guitar forums, hes a good friend of mine, but the rest is done by me.:thumb:

Im currently in the process of doing another recording, this time from Super Metroid.:thumb:

kamiccollo
01-31-2006, 07:41 AM
Well, I'm at Macalania Wood and I haven't done any sidequests yet, and I think it's an awesome game. But perhaps I'm easily pleased. I don't like the idea of all characters being the same, so this first time round I may well skip the sidequests.

Your pretty far then, isnt that just before the calm lands?

Im one one of those people who want to get everything, so I spend ages in a new area to look for sidequests and hidden items. I usually end up giving up after a while especially when it takes way to long and you have to re-search areas again.

Chrysostom
01-31-2006, 08:41 AM
Your pretty far then

Oshi. I'm not nearly finished am I? Because most of my characters are only just at the top end of the 1000s in HP (between 1600 and 1800 except Auron and Kimhari on 2100ish, Yuna on 1182 and Tidus on 1300ish).

kamiccollo
01-31-2006, 08:50 AM
Oshi. I'm not nearly finished am I? Because most of my characters are only just at the top end of the 1000s in HP (between 1600 and 1800 except Auron and Kimhari on 2100ish, Yuna on 1182 and Tidus on 1300ish).


Nope, I think your about 2/3 of the way through the story, but there's plenty of stuff you still have to do. I think. Its been a while since I played it. You have four aeons right? The first one, Ifrit(?), Ixion and the ice one (Shiva?).

Chrysostom
01-31-2006, 08:53 AM
Nope, I think your about 2/3 of the way through the story, but there's plenty of stuff you still have to do. I think. Its been a while since I played it. You have four aeons right? The first one, Ifrit(?), Ixion and the ice one (Shiva?).

I don't have Shiva yet. I have Valefor, Ifrit and Ixion. 2/3 of the way through? Yikes. I need ti pump my characters up fast. Why is the damn game so short? They don't make 'em like VII/VIII any more.

kamiccollo
01-31-2006, 08:59 AM
Im doing it from memory, so I might be wrong. I think your 2/3 through the story(line), but you know how it is, you get bogged down with things that take ages to complete,
It just has a really simple story line that goes straight from a-z without as many interesting obligatory detours along the way. At least to me.

Chrysostom
01-31-2006, 09:08 AM
It just has a really simple story line that goes straight from a-z without as many interesting obligatory detours along the way. At least to me.

Hmm...this is mostly true. Although Auron seems to have some issue from his past. Something to do with Rin and the Farplane. Don't tell me what that is.

kamiccollo
01-31-2006, 09:31 AM
Hmm...this is mostly true. Although Auron seems to have some issue from his past. Something to do with Rin and the Farplane. Don't tell me what that is.

Ooh, that bits juicy even if predictable.

crag
01-31-2006, 09:35 AM
me thinks you're only half way through, if i remember rightly theres still quite a few things to do.

and yeah Auron's story is quite predictable.

Happy
01-31-2006, 11:19 AM
Best FF out of 1-6?
FF3. It's the only one I got pretty far in.

Chrysostom
01-31-2006, 12:20 PM
me thinks you're only half way through, if i remember rightly theres still quite a few things to do.

That's a bit better.

MAthiAS
01-31-2006, 02:25 PM
It just has a really simple story line that goes straight from a-z without as many interesting obligatory detours along the way.
Yeah, and its predictable as hell.

Though VIII didn't have many story related sidequests either, because characters weren't that interesting cept Squall and Rinoa.

But VI and VII were loaded with great characters and great sidequests...

DeusExMachina
01-31-2006, 04:25 PM
many will say 6.

but personally, i love 5 to death, since it was my first ever FF. 4 isnt too bad either; it has THE hardest last boss in any FF.
I loved the last boss of FFIV. So much fun.

Personally, 6 is the best FF of I-VI, and probably the best FF out of any of them. Although IX and IV are also very good.

numetaljordan
02-01-2006, 10:45 AM
woo i just got FFX international version, dark aeons here i com |M|

Happy
02-01-2006, 12:09 PM
Good luck, you'll need it.

kamiccollo
02-01-2006, 01:38 PM
Yeah, and its predictable as hell.

Though VIII didn't have many story related sidequests either, because characters weren't that interesting cept Squall and Rinoa.


I dont think it needed them, there were enough turns in the story to make it interesting enough, methinks.


But VI and VII were loaded with great characters and great sidequests...

I should really get round to playing VI sometime....

MAthiAS
02-01-2006, 02:31 PM
I should really get round to playing VI sometime....
Yeah, its really quality. One of those games I wish I had gotten into 10 years ago though.

DeusExMachina
02-01-2006, 02:34 PM
woo i just got FFX international version, dark aeons here i com |M|
Don't you need a modded ps2 to play it? I'm pretty sure the international version will work on a NA bought ps2.

Liberi Fatali
02-01-2006, 09:00 PM
woo i just got FFX international version, dark aeons here i com |M| It'll take you ages before you can get through far enough into the game to face them, and then level up enough to be able to face them.

I bet you the first time you face Dark Valefor, you'll charge in then charge out after about 3 hits saying "stuff that, those dark aeons are impossible."

But really Dark Valefor, Ifrits, Shiva and Ixion are fairly easy and not a lot seperates them. Once you get to Yojimbo, Bahumut, the Magus Sisters and stuff, then it gets REALLY hard.

Don't you need a modded ps2 to play it? I'm pretty sure the international version will work on a NA bought ps2.
NA? :|
Aint no such system is there? I know we're PAL over here and in Europe, whilst I'm pretty sure Japense is NTSC but slightly different.

kamiccollo
02-02-2006, 06:48 AM
I bet you the first time you face Dark Valefor, you'll charge in then charge out after about 3 hits saying "stuff that, those dark aeons are impossible."

But really Dark Valefor, Ifrits, Shiva and Ixion are fairly easy and not a lot seperates them. Once you get to Yojimbo, Bahumut, the Magus Sisters and stuff, then it gets REALLY hard.


Know what you mean, in the end I used Yojimbos Zanmoto to finnish them off. But when it came to Dark Yojimbo, man that is impossible. Its almost impossible to get enough Zanamotos to finnish him off the 'however' many times you have to face Dark Yojimbo without him getting at least a few on you. After about 1 1/2 hours I got 3 in a row and died so I gave that up!



NA? :|
Aint no such system is there? I know we're PAL over here and in Europe, whilst I'm pretty sure Japense is NTSC but slightly different.

Its NTSC but I think the US gets their own translated version? or something to that effect.

crag
02-02-2006, 10:14 AM
heh, i remember when i first fought Dark Valefor, i had no idea that the dark aeons were as hard as they were, needless to say i got my *** kicked. I continued trying for a few hours until i checked the net for hints to beat him and i saw his HP and was like:eek:

Happy
02-02-2006, 11:34 AM
Yeah the first time I fought him I managed to get in 3 attacks. That was fun.

no_leaf_clover
02-02-2006, 03:26 PM
i never attempted the dark aeons, i knew i had no chance.

DeusExMachina
02-02-2006, 03:59 PM
I would love to fight the dark aeons, but I really don't care enough to buy another copy of the game, plus play through all of it again.

kamiccollo
02-02-2006, 04:25 PM
Howd you guys beat dark yojimbo if any of you bothered to try. It cant just rely on being lucky with the zanmatos?

PAJJ
02-02-2006, 04:37 PM
Howd you guys beat dark yojimbo if any of you bothered to try. It cant just rely on being lucky with the zanmatos?
Hugely maxed out charcters, armor with ribbon, auto haste, curseproof, auto-life, wepon with damage break, quickhits from all characters aslong as they're doing 99,999, switching to aeons to block attacks, alot of patients and a hell of a lot of luck. oh use Tidua Blitz ace, and Wakka's attack reals.

red barchetta
02-02-2006, 04:46 PM
Hugely maxed out charcters, armor with ribbon, auto haste, curseproof, auto-life, wepon with damage break, quickhits from all characters aslong as they're doing 99,999, switching to aeons to block attacks, alot of patients and a hell of a lot of luck. oh use Tidua Blitz ace, and Wakka's attack reals.
and Yuna with 'Initial Strike' so that she can summon an Aeon to block Yojimbo's first attack, cos he always attacks first.

FlyingPaul_83
02-02-2006, 04:49 PM
I would love to fight the dark aeons, but I really don't care enough to buy another copy of the game, plus play through all of it again.

123 I don't really feel like playing through that whole game again.

in other news, I'm gonna try and defeat Omega weapon in my VIII game that I am currently playing. I sucked so bad at the card game my first play through VIII that I had no chance to defeat Omega weapon.

Mister_Che
02-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Good luck with that, I used Squall, Zell and Rinoa for it my first time through. Its a pretty long fight.

kamiccollo
02-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Hugely maxed out charcters, armor with ribbon, auto haste, curseproof, auto-life, wepon with damage break, quickhits from all characters aslong as they're doing 99,999, switching to aeons to block attacks, alot of patients and a hell of a lot of luck. oh use Tidua Blitz ace, and Wakka's attack reals.

No wonder I kept failing. My guys werent that strong. Strong enough to win the game but that means nothing tbh!

kamiccollo
02-02-2006, 04:54 PM
123 I don't really feel like playing through that whole game again.

in other news, I'm gonna try and defeat Omega weapon in my VIII game that I am currently playing. I sucked so bad at the card game my first play through VIII that I had no chance to defeat Omega weapon.


Omega's the guy you get Eden from right?

I just used limit breaks and drew full lifes. Had at least one guy permenantly dedicated to healing and reviving with full life. Was over before I knew it!

red barchetta
02-02-2006, 04:54 PM
i prefer it when you can actually put up a good fight when fighting hard bosses even at low levels (bahamut in FF4, for example).

the training required to even stand a chance against the Dark Aeons is absolutely ridiculous. it put me off so much. and letting have moves that automatically kill you in one hit (a.k.a. 99999 damage) is so stupid.

123 I don't really feel like playing through that whole game again.

in other news, I'm gonna try and defeat Omega weapon in my VIII game that I am currently playing. I sucked so bad at the card game my first play through VIII that I had no chance to defeat Omega weapon.
make sure you use meltdown on it as soon as you can. oh, and auto-protect REALLY helps with Terra Break.

Timm
02-02-2006, 04:55 PM
123 I don't really feel like playing through that whole game again.

in other news, I'm gonna try and defeat Omega weapon in my VIII game that I am currently playing. I sucked so bad at the card game my first play through VIII that I had no chance to defeat Omega weapon.
which omega?
the one in the castle (or is that ultima :confused: ) or the one in the sea?
I never tried the one in the castle but the other one isn't thaaaat hard, I just used irvine's limit a couple of times with machine gun ammo and meltdown

MAthiAS
02-02-2006, 05:04 PM
the training required to even stand a chance against the Dark Aeons is absolutely ridiculous. it put me off so much. and letting have moves that automatically kill you in one hit (a.k.a. 99999 damage) is so stupid.
Ya. FFX's battle system doesn't lend itself to battles being hard because of that though, because you can tell exactly when everybody's turn is.

I agree totally man. Next play through of VII for me will be low level. Sucks that in VIII its actually way easier with no leveling.

FlyingPaul_83
02-02-2006, 05:05 PM
Omega weapon is in the castle.

Ultima is easy, just use lionheart :p

Can someone refresh my memeory on terra break, I forgot what it is :(

Timm
02-02-2006, 05:18 PM
Omega weapon is in the castle.

Ultima is easy, just use lionheart :p

Can someone refresh my memeory on terra break, I forgot what it is :(
I analysed him when I fought him and it said omega weapon ????????/???????HP

spitfirejunky
02-02-2006, 07:53 PM
Omega's the guy you get Eden from right?

Nope. Ultima is and it sucks.

Omega weapon is in the castle.

Ultima is easy, just use lionheart :P

Can someone refresh my memeory on terra break, I forgot what it is :(

It's like Quake except the background fades to black, the ground gets all wavy and there are laser beams and ****.

If everyone's vitality/spirit is not above 110, everyone dies.

Lionheart1827
02-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Omega weapon is in the castle.

Ultima is easy, just use lionheart :p

Can someone refresh my memeory on terra break, I forgot what it is :(

Best move evar:thumb:

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 08:44 AM
Sucks that in VIII its actually way easier with no leveling.

I always thought that was somewhat of a good thing. It means you don't have to break the flow of the storyline by sticking around in one place to level up your characters. I've come to my senses and realise that the first 2 PS FF's are the best. FFX is good for what it is but...

Lord Abortion
02-03-2006, 08:50 AM
Yeah the first time I fought him I managed to get in 3 attacks. That was fun.
Yojimbo Works well.

You just go through a hell of alot of funds summoning him to kill them all.

Timm
02-03-2006, 08:51 AM
Best move evar:thumb:
was lionheart the ultimate limit or was it heartbreaker?

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 08:51 AM
Anyone going to buy Dirge of Cerberus?

Timm
02-03-2006, 08:52 AM
Imma try it out first
if it's good and I have some free time I'll buy it

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 08:54 AM
Imma try it out first
if it's good and I have some free time I'll buy it

I'm going to buy it right away. Anyone know the European release date?

Timm
02-03-2006, 08:57 AM
I'm going to buy it right away. Anyone know the European release date?
If I was still in school I would too :upset:
it says tba 2006 as release date
hopefully they don't pull a nintendo and push it back a year and half :lol:

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 09:20 AM
hopefully they don't pull a nintendo and push it back a year and half :lol:

Ha ha ha. Yeah. :lol:

Lionheart1827
02-03-2006, 10:08 AM
was lionheart the ultimate limit or was it heartbreaker?

it was squall's final limit.

i forgot what heartbreaker was.:thumb:

Happy
02-03-2006, 10:24 AM
Nope. Ultima is and it sucks.

You can get it from Tiamat also. I only found that out the other day.

PAJJ
02-03-2006, 11:08 AM
Best move evar:thumb:

Wrong Omnislash owns the Lionheart. IMO VII's the best FF, if they re-made it it'd be the only game i'd pay full price for, i don't care if it's just a graphical update either.
Actually i'd probably go buy the new zelda on realse aswell.

Happy
02-03-2006, 11:10 AM
I have to say Lionheart owns Omnislash. It hits for a lot more.

Timm
02-03-2006, 11:12 AM
it was squall's final limit.

i forgot what heartbreaker was.:thumb:
heartbreaker was the second best limit of squall then
I think the name is way cooler though "Heartbreaker" :cool:

Actually i'd probably go buy the new zelda on realse aswell.
well you certainly have enough time to camp infront of the store :lol:


actually this isn't funny at all, I'm so looking forward to zelda tp :(

PAJJ
02-03-2006, 11:19 AM
well you certainly have enough time to camp infront of the store :lol:


actually this isn't funny at all, I'm so looking forward to zelda tp :(

Eh, i can wait, i never figured nintendo would make the realese date, and it'd be a year + late.

crag
02-03-2006, 12:54 PM
Anyone going to buy Dirge of Cerberus?
what's its storyline in relation to VII?

all i know about this game is that you go Vincent:(

Happy
02-03-2006, 01:00 PM
I haven't heard anything about Dirge of Cerberus.

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 01:08 PM
what's its storyline in relation to VII?

all i know about this game is that you go Vincent:(

Lemme see...basically it fleshes out Vincent's past, including Hojo's experiments on him, and his doomed love for Lucrecia.

It revolves around a section of SOLDIER known as the Deep Ground Soldiers who were created underground under Midgar. When Meteor strikes they get trapped and have now escaped, first revealing their existence by a raid on Kalm.

Vincy boy has something to do with them, probably from his days as a Turk, since they were formed under President Shinra's leadership. They are looking for him.

Happy
02-03-2006, 01:17 PM
Sounds good. It being Square, I expect it to be good.

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 01:21 PM
Sounds good. It being Square, I expect it to be good.

Have some links:

http://www.ff7dc.net/

http://www.ff7-doc.com/

Happy
02-03-2006, 01:32 PM
The advert at the top AC for $499! :eek:

crag
02-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Have some links:

http://www.ff7dc.net/

http://www.ff7-doc.com/
looks pretty cool, me thinks i'll buy it.

Chrysostom
02-03-2006, 02:29 PM
looks pretty cool, me thinks i'll buy it.

I'm surprised so few others among you knew about this game.

Happy
02-03-2006, 02:30 PM
I think it's been kept rather quiet.

crag
02-03-2006, 02:40 PM
i've known of it's existance for a while now i just never knew much about it. As Happy said it's been kept quiet.

spitfirejunky
02-03-2006, 04:03 PM
You can get it from Tiamat also. I only found that out the other day.

Yep. You can salvage a load of GFs that you missed from the Ultimecia Castle bosses.

Happy
02-04-2006, 09:03 AM
Yeah. Only if you unlock Draw that is. That was always one of the last on my priority list.

MBS
02-04-2006, 12:30 PM
I've known about Dirge of Cerberus for a while, I just didn't know the release date. Is it out?

red barchetta
02-04-2006, 12:42 PM
I've known about Dirge of Cerberus for a while, I just didn't know the release date. Is it out?
it was released in Japan last week. im not sure about the US/Europe release though

MBS
02-04-2006, 12:43 PM
/dark aeon talk

I got my copy of FFX the day it came out, and it's NA so I haven't heard of these, although I'm very interested. I got really bored once and put Rikku through Auron's, Wakka's and Tidus' sphere grid sections. Needless to say, she is my strongest character. :lol:

Auron has gone through basically the whole board except Rikku and Wakka's sections. Yeah, I put him through Yuna and Lulu's sections. :D

Brew
02-04-2006, 01:36 PM
I remember trying to defeat the dark aeons, I got pwned multiple times.

on the subject of FFX, which sphere grid do you guys use?

Happy
02-04-2006, 01:43 PM
The basic one most times.

Chrysostom
02-04-2006, 02:25 PM
The basic one most times.

Yup same. I like the slightly larger degree of division between characters it allows.

crag
02-04-2006, 02:32 PM
I remember trying to defeat the dark aeons, I got pwned multiple times.

on the subject of FFX, which sphere grid do you guys use?
the basic one, i never really understood how it worked.

PAJJ
02-04-2006, 03:02 PM
Basic for the same reason as Mike, it gives the characters more divison, which is good when working through the games story elements.

Happy
02-04-2006, 03:36 PM
the basic one, i never really understood how it worked.
You don't understand how the Sphere Grid works? I thought it was easier to understand than Junctioning and Materia.

Chrysostom
02-04-2006, 03:37 PM
You don't understand how the Sphere Grid works? I thought it was easier to understand than Junctioning and Materia.

Yeah, I like it. Although Junctioning isn't at all complicated and Materia certainly isn't. The sphere grid is easy.

Happy
02-04-2006, 03:44 PM
Junctioning was the most hardest thing to understand when I first played VIII. Mind you I was only 9.

Chrysostom
02-04-2006, 03:45 PM
Mind you I was only 9.

Ah I had the advantage of age. I was 13/14.

Lionheart1827
02-04-2006, 04:17 PM
Ah I had the advantage of age. I was 13/14.

Me too.:thumb:

Chrysostom
02-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Me too.:thumb:

It's really not that hard. It can be annoying when you junction curative magic to your HP and then it goes down as you use up magic, but it's not hard to grasp.

PAJJ
02-04-2006, 04:30 PM
I understood the junction system but because of the whole changing stat thing i usually stuck to standard attacks.
I do the same and just stick to attacks in x-2, a because of the nonsense of dress sphere/garment grids, a two because it's not strictly turned based i don't have time to work out what move i want to use and just attack as quick as possible.

Chrysostom
02-05-2006, 10:14 AM
So in the interests of keeping the characters significantly different from one another, the FFX sidequests can go away this time round, I've decided. I'll do 'em next play through.

MAthiAS
02-05-2006, 11:51 AM
Wise choice.

Happy
02-05-2006, 12:43 PM
FFX doesn't really have that many sidequests does it?

Chrysostom
02-05-2006, 01:18 PM
FFX doesn't really have that many sidequests does it?

Well no, but those it does have require all characters to be the same (ie beasted levels) which goes against my FF gaming philosophy. In fact, I may not do them second time round either.

Wise choice.

Thank you young sir.

Kingofdudes
02-05-2006, 01:31 PM
FF gaming philosophy huh?

DeusExMachina
02-05-2006, 01:32 PM
Isn't Dirge of Cerberus going to be an action/adventure game? I'm not sure if I'm going to pick it up. It's going to be released on ps2, yes?

Chrysostom
02-05-2006, 01:37 PM
Isn't Dirge of Cerberus going to be an action/adventure game? I'm not sure if I'm going to pick it up. It's going to be released on ps2, yes?

Yes to both parts of your post.

Chrysostom
02-05-2006, 01:37 PM
FF gaming philosophy huh?

Yer, wut of it d00d?

Kingofdudes
02-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Yer, wut of it d00d?
I think Ill just keep my mouth shut :x

Chrysostom
02-05-2006, 01:45 PM
I think Ill just keep my mouth shut :x

No, do go on...

DeusExMachina
02-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Kingofdudes, haven't you seen you around these parts lately. Where you been?

I still haven't played the FFXII demo that came with Dragon Quest VIII. I should get on that.

Happy
02-06-2006, 01:44 AM
It had better be good :angry:

Chrysostom
02-06-2006, 10:35 AM
It had better be good :angry:

Yeah. :angry:

Timm
02-06-2006, 10:37 AM
I want a FFXII demo :upset:

Chrysostom
02-06-2006, 10:39 AM
I want a FFXII demo :upset:

Yeah. :upset:

spitfirejunky
02-06-2006, 10:44 AM
I just checked the FFVII DoC official website and realized I couldn't read Japanese.

Happy
02-06-2006, 10:46 AM
I want a FFXII demo :upset:
Me too.

I just checked the FFVII DoC official website and realized I couldn't read Japanese
I had the same problem.

spitfirejunky
02-06-2006, 10:48 AM
I hate it when that happens.

Happy
02-06-2006, 10:51 AM
Somehow you should be able to translate it. It might come out all dodgy with words the wrong way round though.

crag
02-06-2006, 10:52 AM
I want a FFXII demo :upset:
i want FFXII:upset:

Timm
02-06-2006, 10:54 AM
i want FFXII:upset:
don't get me started...:(

*cries* :upset:

holy_roller99
02-06-2006, 10:57 AM
when is it coming out. any links?

non japanese links

Happy
02-06-2006, 10:59 AM
when is it coming out. any links?

non japanese links
It's out in Japan already and it'll be out elsewhere in a little bit.

holy_roller99
02-06-2006, 11:01 AM
it is always out in japan for like 3 years before they can translate it.

crag
02-06-2006, 11:02 AM
when is it coming out. any links?

non japanese links
according to http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title&r=PS2&title=183636 its out on 17th of March.

Timm
02-06-2006, 11:07 AM
according to http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title&r=PS2&title=183636 its out on 17th of March.
:eek:
that's only a bit more than a month :)
is it a europewide release or only uk?
I might get the uk version if it comes out a lot later here in germany

Happy
02-06-2006, 11:12 AM
it is always out in japan for like 3 years before they can translate it.
It's not a full length FF. Shouldn't take too long.

Chrysostom
02-06-2006, 11:22 AM
It's not a full length FF.

Wah!?

Lionheart1827
02-06-2006, 02:26 PM
buy DQ8 if you want the demo. DQ8 is an amazing game that should be played by anyone who likes RPGs.

B
02-06-2006, 02:30 PM
i have the demo.

DQ8 is good.

MAthiAS
02-06-2006, 02:37 PM
I'll get DQ8 when the price drops...

On the subject of translation, I always find it retarded that they don't have translators with English as their first language, so they can tell if stuff makes sense.

Timm
02-06-2006, 02:40 PM
buy DQ8 if you want the demo. DQ8 is an amazing game that should be played by anyone who likes RPGs.
it isn't and won't be released here as far as I know :upset:

Lionheart1827
02-06-2006, 02:55 PM
it isn't and won't be released here as far as I know :upset:

April in the UK thats the only other date I know.:thumb:

B
02-06-2006, 03:13 PM
You can buy my demo for 20 bucks >_>

Liberi Fatali
02-06-2006, 10:28 PM
:eek:
that's only a bit more than a month :)
is it a europewide release or only uk?
I might get the uk version if it comes out a lot later here in germany
Only Japan. Hehehe.

no_leaf_clover
02-07-2006, 04:33 AM
FF XII looks pretty good, I've seen the trailer.

EDIT: Also, just in case any of you are FFVII fans, there a some more games coming off of it.

Derge of Cerberus (Game all about Vincent. Can't remember if it's set before or after Advent Children
There is also one (Can't remember the name) where you play as the Shin-ra and Turks side of the Final Fantasy 7 story.

crag
02-07-2006, 05:21 AM
FF XII looks pretty good, I've seen the trailer.

EDIT: Also, just in case any of you are FFVII fans, there a some more games coming off of it.

Derge of Cerberus (Game all about Vincent. Can't remember if it's set before or after Advent Children
There is also one (Can't remember the name) where you play as the Shin-ra and Turks side of the Final Fantasy 7 story.
haven't heard about this one, do tell more.

no_leaf_clover
02-07-2006, 05:59 AM
Well apparently, though I'm unsure on the details (I'll find a link or summat) This is Vincents own game, it's after FF7 of course, not sre about Advent Children. Now, I know he is fighting someone "secret soldier" orginisation thing. (I've heard rumours of Sephiroth, I know Cloud,Cait Sith and Yuffie make an appearance, along with Tseng.) Hojo is in apparently, and.... here, I have found a link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.playonline.com/dcff7/index.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.playonline.com/dcff7/index.shtml%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

Have a look, I think it's in Korean or Japanese though.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 09:47 AM
Well apparently, though I'm unsure on the details (I'll find a link or summat) This is Vincents own game, it's after FF7 of course, not sre about Advent Children. Now, I know he is fighting someone "secret soldier" orginisation thing. (I've heard rumours of Sephiroth, I know Cloud,Cait Sith and Yuffie make an appearance, along with Tseng.) Hojo is in apparently, and.... here, I have found a link:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.playonline.com/dcff7/index.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.playonline.com/dcff7/index.shtml%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

Have a look, I think it's in Korean or Japanese though.


Sounds interesting.

That translator really doesnt help.


edit: gave up trying to read it...

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 10:41 AM
FF XII looks pretty good, I've seen the trailer.

EDIT: Also, just in case any of you are FFVII fans, there a some more games coming off of it.

Derge of Cerberus (Game all about Vincent. Can't remember if it's set before or after Advent Children
There is also one (Can't remember the name) where you play as the Shin-ra and Turks side of the Final Fantasy 7 story.

Dirge of Cerberus is set 2 years after AC.

And the Turk game is FFVII: Before Crisis, only available on your mobile phone and it isn't the Turk side of FFVII, as the name suggests it takes place before it and it's to do with the Turks vs. Avalanche (minus all the Avalanche members from FFVII).

Happy
02-07-2006, 10:47 AM
I now need a phone. Thanks a lot Square.

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 10:59 AM
I now need a phone. Thanks a lot Square.

Indeed.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 11:07 AM
Heres something thats been toubling me.

Can Vincent fly? I dont remember if he does in VII, in AC he pretty much is flying when you first see him but at other times when flying would be a good choice he dosn't.


/shows the extent of my troubles...

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 11:17 AM
Heres something thats been toubling me.

Can Vincent fly? I dont remember if he does in VII, in AC he pretty much is flying when you first see him but at other times when flying would be a good choice he dosn't.


/shows the extent of my troubles...

Yeah he can.

Happy
02-07-2006, 11:20 AM
He can fly? Wow.
I just thought he jumped really far.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 11:26 AM
Thought so, why the hell doesnt he do it more often. You wouldnt be able to get me to stop.

'oh look i left my pen'....*flies over*

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 11:31 AM
Thought so, why the hell doesnt he do it more often. You wouldnt be able to get me to stop.

'oh look i left my pen'....*flies over*

:lol:

Of course, there's only one piece of evidence for that: when he appears to fly out of his coffin.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 11:33 AM
:lol:

Of course, there's only one piece of evidence for that: when he appears to fly out of his coffin.


Got one word: magnets


He looks like he does it in AC when he helps Cloud although you cant be sure if hes flying or jumping from tree to tree.

Happy
02-07-2006, 11:37 AM
I think it's jumping, this is FF we're on about.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 11:42 AM
I think it's jumping, this is FF we're on about.


My point exactly. If sin can do it, Vincent should be able to being a shinra vampire mako experiment.

The bit where he lands around Cloud and swoops off looks a helluva lot like flying to me. Apologies to those who havent seen AC yet.

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 11:52 AM
It'll be jumping then. Oriental things have that strange jumping thing in them all the time. Like Crouching Tiger...

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 11:57 AM
It'll be jumping then. Oriental things have that strange jumping thing in them all the time. Like Crouching Tiger...

Shame, he seemed a much better character when I thought he could fly. Still cool but not as cool...

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 11:58 AM
Meh, he's still best out of FFVII.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 12:07 PM
Nah hes good but nowhere near Red XIII. I mean a walking talking giant cat with feathers, you cant beat that.

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 12:16 PM
Nah hes good but nowhere near Red XIII. I mean a walking talking giant cat with feathers, you cant beat that.

With a large stick I reckon I could. Vincent is cooler than Red. Vince has a tortured past. Cid is also cool...because he's a gruff bastard.

Happy
02-07-2006, 12:20 PM
Nah hes good but nowhere near Red XIII. I mean a walking talking giant cat with feathers, you cant beat that.
I always thought he was a dog.

My mate ruined AC for me by telling me about the guy in the wheelchair and who it was :angry:

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 12:23 PM
I always thought he was a dog.

My mate ruined AC for me by telling me about the guy in the wheelchair and who it was :angry:

It was fairly obvious.

kamiccollo
02-07-2006, 12:24 PM
With a large stick I reckon I could.


:lol: .....:angry:


Vincent is cooler than Red. Vince has a tortured past. Cid is also cool...because he's a gruff bastard.


And Red's past isnt tortured?


Before Crisis

Born Nanaki, he is the last of a race whose sworn to protect their home Cosmo Canyon with their lives. Despite his fullgrown look and aloof persona, he is actually a teenager by his species' standards. Nanaki was told that his father, Seto, had run away during the war with the now-extinct Gi tribe, and he believed his father left them to fight on their own and was ashamed to be his son. When the Turks arrived on Cosmo Canyon, Nanaki's mother challenged them and lost her life as Nanaki himself was captured and taken to Shin-Ra headquarters. There, Professor Hojo referred to Nanaki by the codename "Red XIII" during his experiments. The nickname stuck when he joined Cloud's party in FFVII.


Final Fantasy VII

Red XIII as he appears in game.Red XIII joined Cloud's group while they were saving Aerith from Shin-Ra, who was trying to breed Aerith with him to preserve both sides of the dying species. When the group visits Cosmo Canyon, they meet the village elder Bugenhagen, whom Red XIII calls his grandfather. Here, Red XIII finds out the truth about his father. Seto actually fought the Gi tribe when they were attacking from a secret pathway but could not defeat all of them. Eventually he was turned into stone by the Gi Tribe's poison arrows. Finally knowing his true ancestry, Red XIII, with some prodding from Bugenhagen, gains the courage to rejoin Cloud's party for the rest of his journey, and he proves to be a valuable asset and friend.


WIKI


c'mon you know hes the best character. Anyways im off to capoeira!

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 12:28 PM
c'mon you know hes the best character. Anyways im off to capoeira!

Pfft. I know he's an asshat.

crag
02-07-2006, 12:33 PM
Vincent>Red

and i thought Red was a dog or wolf, or some kind of canine creature:confused:

Happy
02-07-2006, 12:42 PM
It was fairly obvious.
The wheelchair or the dog?

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 12:43 PM
The wheelchair or the dog?

Le chair de wheel.

PAJJ
02-07-2006, 12:46 PM
Cloud>Red >Vincent but Sephiroth was the coolest character in the game.

Brew
02-07-2006, 01:30 PM
Red > everyone

numetaljordan
02-07-2006, 01:46 PM
ok come on, Vincent is the coolest character square has made, hes a freaking shinra vampire, he destroys that little canine red, and cloud, i dont know about you, but if they made a movie about a dog that can talk or a moivre about a freaking biological vampire i would go see the vampire movie, o wait, it has , underworld :(

Lionheart1827
02-07-2006, 02:25 PM
You're all wrong.

Cyan is the best character.

Traumatizing experiences, haunted by nightmares of his dead family, and not to mention, he is one badass knight.:thumb:

MAthiAS
02-07-2006, 02:29 PM
You're all wrong.

Cyan is the best character.

Traumatizing experiences, haunted by nightmares of his dead family, and not to mention, he is one badass knight.:thumb:
Last summer's Hurt + Heal told us all the truth we already knew...

<--- Best character.

Red > Vincent by far too. Vincent is basically Shadow...

Lionheart1827
02-07-2006, 03:25 PM
Last summer's Hurt + Heal told us all the truth we already knew...

<--- Best character.

Red > Vincent by far too. Vincent is basically Shadow...

Yeh but those polls were rigged. I bet there is a ton of people whose only played 7 and up.:thumb:

Meh, I liked Shadow a whole lot more because you're left wondering who he really is. It was only years later when it clicked in my mind who he really was.

Ninja > Vampire

Happy
02-07-2006, 03:26 PM
Le chair de wheel.
Wasn't obvious to me. I've been avoiding anything about AC until it's released.

Lionheart1827
02-07-2006, 03:31 PM
Wasn't obvious to me. I've been avoiding anything about AC until it's released.

Me too. I get annoyed when people post about it in here.

Turkish
02-07-2006, 03:32 PM
Last summer's Hurt + Heal told us all the truth we already knew...

<--- Best character.

Red > Vincent by far too. Vincent is basically Shadow...


agreed...Red was my favorite from VII.

Chrysostom
02-07-2006, 04:40 PM
My usertitle says it all...

rippa32
02-07-2006, 07:03 PM
Hey, I finally got Final Fantasy Anthology(PAL Edition) about a week ago and I have just finished FFIV. I was kinda disappointed about the end boss as it was way too hard to beat yet when I stole the Dark Matter it was too easy but still overall a great game. So anyway does anyone have the end FMV that was added on on the PSX edition? Obviously I have seen it but I have no way of watching whnever I like so if anyone knows where I could download it that would be great.

Also, who is shadow?

Lionheart1827
02-07-2006, 07:04 PM
Hey, I finally got Final Fantasy Anthology(PAL Edition) about a week ago and I have just finished FFIV. I was kinda disappointed about the end boss as it was way too hard to beat yet when I stole the Dark Matter it was too easy but still overall a great game. So anyway does anyone have the end FMV that was added on on the PSX edition? Obviously I have seen it but I have no way of watching whnever I like so if anyone knows where I could download it that would be great.

Also, who is shadow?

FFVI

play it now.:thumb:

AIRIC
02-07-2006, 10:33 PM
My mom's friend is bringing me FF8 tommorow. It was by far my favorite and I can't wait to play it again since my copy was lost/scratched/somethinged.

And the countdown begins.

FlyingPaul_83
02-07-2006, 10:51 PM
It was fairly obvious.


not really.

I dint expect it to be that person.

but enough AC talk.

Red XIII > Vincent

no_leaf_clover
02-08-2006, 04:45 AM
I say Vincent is the coolest charachter in FFVII. But not the best.

My "Kicking the feck out of the weapons team" consists of Cloud, Barret and Cid With the following set up:

Everyone level 4 limit, ultimate weapons.
Cloud Materia: 2xSummon, Mastered Knights of the Round, HP Plus Mastered, Restore Mastered (just for Regen).
Cid: Final Attack jointed with Phoenix (mastered), HP Plus (mastered), Restore (mastered) 4xCut.
Barret: Final Attack with Knights of the Round, HP Plus, Restore, Ultima.

Just in case any of you don't know the attack Aire Tam Storm (Materia backwords) does damage corresponding to how much Materia you have equiped on each charachter.
Example: I have 4 Materias on Cloud, meaning that Emerald will do a total of 4444 damage to him. Cid has 5, so it'l do 5555 to him. Just letting y'all know.

Liberi Fatali
02-08-2006, 05:17 AM
Woh that was buzzy, this morning I was walking to school listening to my ipod on shuffle listening to Nobuo Uematsu. And on the way to school I have to go through a small forest, over a park and through some like chaotic traffic-congestion bit.

And like 10 seconds after I entered the forest, Rustling Forest from the IX OST came on, then when I was walking across the park Blue Fields from VIII came on. It was cool.

During the congested traffic bit, Mods de Chocobo played as well, but I guess that doesn't match. :(

PAJJ
02-08-2006, 07:10 AM
That's sweet, i always wanted the music, my fav bit of is when you enter the world map on seven, i love it.

kamiccollo
02-08-2006, 07:18 AM
Vincent>Red

and i thought Red was a dog or wolf, or some kind of canine creature:confused:


Cmon hes a cat if ever I saw one.

Head
You'll see it curves in at the mouth. Now look at a cat's head. You'll see it also curves in at the mouth.
Tail
Cat's use there tail to show there mood. When he was surprised/anrgy, it went straight etc.
Paws
Ever looked at a cat's paw, or a picture of a lions paw? Now look at Reds.
Body
Red has the sleak body, much like that of a cat. And has a shortish mane on his back.

And what about his victory dance? I must admit it's been a while since I played FF7, but unless I'm mistaken, Red washes himself. He licks a paw, and rubs it around his head, like cats do.
Plus he can roar!


Hes a Cat people!

And well done all those who though Red was the best character!

Happy
02-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Wow. I preferred him as a dog.

red barchetta
02-08-2006, 11:16 AM
Woh that was buzzy, this morning I was walking to school listening to my ipod on shuffle listening to Nobuo Uematsu. And on the way to school I have to go through a small forest, over a park and through some like chaotic traffic-congestion bit.

And like 10 seconds after I entered the forest, Rustling Forest from the IX OST came on, then when I was walking across the park Blue Fields from VIII came on. It was cool.

During the congested traffic bit, Mods de Chocobo played as well, but I guess that doesn't match. :(
that reminds me of a fun time me and my friends had with the speakers during assembly at school. when the headmaster came into the hall, we played 'one winged angel' through the speakers as his entrance music. it was a good laugh.

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 11:47 AM
And well done all those who though Red was the best character!

Pfft.

Vincent>Reno>Rude>Red>Cloud>Cid>Tseng>Barret>Tifa>Aeris>Yuffie>Cait Sith

red barchetta
02-08-2006, 12:09 PM
Pfft.

Vincent>Red>Cloud>Cid>Barret>Tifa>Aeris>Yuffie>Cait Sith
Rude > all other FF7 characters.

if we're talking best character out of all FFs, then it's either Delita or Kain.

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 12:30 PM
Rude.

Oshi! I'll edit mine.

kamiccollo
02-08-2006, 12:31 PM
true

Red>Cloud>Vincent>Tifa>Barret>Aeris>Reno>Rude>tseng>Cid>Yuffie>CaitSith


Good to see you come round. I was worried for you for a second!

crag
02-08-2006, 12:33 PM
Wow. I preferred him as a dog.
me too, Red the cat makes him seem 'feminine'

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 12:36 PM
Good to see you come round. I was worried for you for a second!

Don't edit my damn list bitch. I'll ram an attabaque up your ***! :angry:

Red isn't the best character!

PAJJ
02-08-2006, 12:38 PM
Don't edit my damn list bitch. I'll ram an attabaque up your ***! :angry:

Red isn't the best character!

Your right Sephiroth is. :)

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 12:39 PM
Your right Sephiroth is. :)

Eeh...he's good but he's not the one.

kamiccollo
02-08-2006, 12:41 PM
me too, Red the cat makes him seem 'feminine'


Nah, hes on the same level as a lion or a tiger. A fighting machine.


Don't edit my damn list bitch. I'll ram an attabaque up your ***! :angry:

Red isn't the best character!


Looks like you've gone into relapse again.


*winces at the mention of ***, attabaque and up.

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 12:43 PM
*winces at the mention of ***, attabaque and up.

:lol:

kamiccollo
02-08-2006, 12:53 PM
I see youve gone back to you previous av. I might look for a new one soon, possibly FF related.

MAthiAS
02-08-2006, 02:36 PM
Cats > Dogs

Chrysostom
02-08-2006, 02:41 PM
I see youve gone back to you previous av. I might look for a new one soon, possibly FF related.

Yup, someone has to represent fo' Vincent.

And good idea. Get one of Red.

kamiccollo
02-08-2006, 03:37 PM
Cats > Dogs

Always. Although dogs have grown on me lately.


Yup, someone has to represent fo' Vincent.

And good idea. Get one of Red.


Theres a great one on wiki but ill have to resize it.

rippa32
02-09-2006, 04:49 AM
Vincent is probably the coolest character from 7 but I thought his limit breaks were pretty useless because you lost all control, I still used him a fair bit though. Who do you guys think is the worst bad guy? Id have to say Golbez.

no_leaf_clover
02-09-2006, 05:21 AM
I think Kefka out of 6 is a ****er.

Lionheart1827
02-09-2006, 01:58 PM
Kefka is one crazy sob.:thumb:

MAthiAS
02-09-2006, 02:19 PM
I thought Kefka was unoriginal and pretty shatty.

red barchetta
02-09-2006, 02:37 PM
unoriginal in what way?

Happy
02-09-2006, 04:21 PM
I didn't think he was unoriginal, I just thought he wasn't that great of an enemy.

red barchetta
02-09-2006, 04:24 PM
speaking of main villains, i wish they made Seymour into a real badass last boss for FFX. he wouldve been perfect for that role, not that stupid Yu Yevon

PAJJ
02-09-2006, 04:31 PM
True Yu Yevon was a fool, the whole Jecht/Sin thing was also a bit ridiculous, Sin as a final boss would of been good, but suppose that doesn't fit the story, oh well.

Sephiroth ftw as best bad guy.

crag
02-09-2006, 04:32 PM
i hated Seymour, couldn't stand his damn voice.

Happy
02-09-2006, 04:35 PM
Yu Yevon was extremely disappointing I was like "WTF a spider?"

PAJJ
02-09-2006, 04:38 PM
:lol: spider

My main problem with it minus the story was the ease of them, and couple of hits and gone, ok it's mainly my fault for going off on a little trip killing all the dark aeons etc, but still i had tidus doing 99,999 before any of that.

Happy
02-09-2006, 04:40 PM
Yeah, the strength of the enemies was disappointing too. FFX needed to be longer, have better voices and better enemies.

crag
02-09-2006, 04:43 PM
Yu Yevon was rather pointless to, considering you couldn't die.

Happy
02-09-2006, 04:44 PM
You couldn't? It never got me down much health at all.

PAJJ
02-09-2006, 04:47 PM
I never knew that because i killed him so quick, but FF final boses in general are usually pretty easy.

Better voices yes, Yuna always seemed a bit slow to me because of her voice, and also lip sync, is that too much to ask, i mean we wait long enough for the game, and others manage it.

crag
02-09-2006, 04:49 PM
You couldn't? It never got me down much health at all.
all your characters had auto life from the start of the fight. so if anyone died they would automatically be brought back to life.

red barchetta
02-09-2006, 05:11 PM
Better voices yes, Yuna always seemed a bit slow to me because of her voice, and also lip sync, is that too much to ask, i mean we wait long enough for the game, and others manage it.
well, the game is originally japanese, so Yuna spoke Japanese. and her lips move in time with the japanese.

MAthiAS
02-09-2006, 06:01 PM
unoriginal in what way?
It seemed he didn't have much motive or anything, he was just there, and for some reason he was the most evil guy in the world.

Liberi Fatali
02-09-2006, 10:45 PM
It seemed he didn't have much motive or anything, he was just there, and for some reason he was the most evil guy in the world. And was incredibly easy to beat.

I disliked the way Final Fantasy IX did the same sort of thing with that final final boss. The only point behind them appeared to be to put further emphasis on the games main theme, rather than being a boss that you built up half the game for, like Ultemecia and other FF final bosses.

Lionheart1827
02-09-2006, 11:04 PM
I always loved fighting Kefka in the last battle of the game. The way they setup 4 tiers and had the music change fluently (Dancing Mad destroys One Winged Angel by the way) was so awesome.:thumb:

Liberi Fatali
02-09-2006, 11:06 PM
Yeah, he was a pretty wicked final boss.

Happy
02-10-2006, 01:56 AM
I never knew that because i killed him so quick, but FF final boses in general are usually pretty easy.

Better voices yes, Yuna always seemed a bit slow to me because of her voice, and also lip sync, is that too much to ask, i mean we wait long enough for the game, and others manage it.
I think she talked slow to try and make the lip-sync more in time with the English version.

rippa32
02-10-2006, 06:00 AM
I have a problem. I have gotten a few FF midis because I love Nobuo's work. But I would like to convert them to MP3 for my MP3 player does anyone know how to do this?