The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy) [Archive] - Page 3

YMB

03-16-2005, 10:43 PM

I've beaten Ruby Weapon and Emerald weapon, both easy.
My tip for beating Ruby:
Equip W-Summon, and make sure you have the Knights Of The Round Materia, and for the love of God cast to your heart's content, KOR usually does on average 125,000 per throw, so it's probbably the strongest summon available in the game.
If all your hits do not take 9999 off Ruby you might as well give up.
All in all it's not actually that hard, well, as hard as people make it :p :lol:

Well no **** man. I think everyone else is talking about without KoTR. Of course every single fight is easy with that summon. Hell you can take down Sephiroth in one round with it.

FlyingPaul_83

03-16-2005, 11:55 PM

^ What did they do again? Ark was crap so yeah, but what did the 2 seperate pieces do?!

I can't remember.

Im not quite sure but i know that the pumice piece gave you better abilities than pumice

Turkish

03-17-2005, 12:33 AM

Im not quite sure but i know that the pumice piece gave you better abilities than pumice

No, fusing the two pieces of pumice gave you Ark. And Ark wasn't crap you could actually play off some very good strategies using Ark. Like when I was fighting the final boss, he would cast that one spell that dropped everyones life to 1. Just summon Ark and make sure you characters had Auto-Regen and Dagger has Boost equipped. By the time the cinematic was over your characters had almost full life without any mp wasted on daggers part.

Turkish

03-17-2005, 12:35 AM

ff9 was weird, i thought freya was male at first, and i didn't know which sex kuja belonged to...

yeah I felt guilty when I first saw Kuja and thinking "Wow...she's hot!" then later on finding out it was a he...

:upset:

Lord Abortion

03-17-2005, 05:25 AM

Im not quite sure but i know that the pumice piece gave you better abilities than pumice
absorbs shadow damage so ozma is easy(er)

red barchetta

03-17-2005, 11:30 AM

yeah I felt guilty when I first saw Kuja and thinking "Wow...she's hot!" then later on finding out it was a he...

:upset:
yeah, his clothes are very feminine; the way he exposes his bellybutton and stuff... :upset: :upset: :upset:

3rdplanet

03-17-2005, 11:49 AM

No, fusing the two pieces of pumice gave you Ark. And Ark wasn't crap you could actually play off some very good strategies using Ark. Like when I was fighting the final boss, he would cast that one spell that dropped everyones life to 1. Just summon Ark and make sure you characters had Auto-Regen and Dagger has Boost equipped. By the time the cinematic was over your characters had almost full life without any mp wasted on daggers part.

That is probably the lamest 'strategy' I have ever heard.

Well done :thumb:

Turkish

03-17-2005, 11:50 AM

That is probably the lamest 'strategy' I have ever heard.

Well done :thumb:

eh it worked. no need to be an asshole about things.

red barchetta

03-17-2005, 12:13 PM

That is probably the lamest 'strategy' I have ever heard.

Well done :thumb:
well, any strategy works against the last boss really, it wasnt that hard. i just killed it with steiner's shock and freya's dragon crest.

3rdplanet

03-17-2005, 12:37 PM

eh it worked. no need to be an asshole about things.

Yes it works, but it is lame at the same time.

I thought he was a very odd boss, seemed to just pop up from no where.

Turkish

03-17-2005, 01:56 PM

um, ok

I agree though, I fought Kuja and I thought it was over. I don't really remember him from anywhere in the story.

FlyingPaul_83

03-17-2005, 11:41 PM

Yeah the final boss from FFIX is supposed to be from FF V

because on the back of the game case you know how it says The crystals are back, well if any of you have played FFV the story Revovles around crystals giving you powers and having to find tham all because they had been spread out throughout the world or something like that, but yeah the end boss is from FFV

Turkish

03-18-2005, 02:13 AM

Sweet, I never played V all the way through. I have the game but since WoW came into my life...haven't had much time for anything else lol.

IAJP

03-18-2005, 03:34 AM

well, any strategy works against the last boss really, it wasnt that hard. i just killed it with steiner's shock and freya's dragon crest.
:thumb:

Dragon Crest+No Mercy+Thievery (If you've been stealing a lot)+Shock.

=9999 every time,
and you can end the battle in around 8 turns.

IAJP

03-18-2005, 03:43 AM

absorbs shadow damage so ozma is easy(er)
There are two ways to make Ozma easier:
#1:
Complete the friendly monsters side task, the last friendly monster is a YAN on Vile Island, it can be found in the forrest, watch out however as on the island itself, there are normal Yans, and these bastards have over 20,000 HP, which can be a bit nasty, but anyway, once you have completed the Friendly Monsters task, the YAN gives you the ability to use pyhsical attacks on Ozma,
when fighting Ozma, take some heavy hitters, Steiner, Freya, Armarant, or whoever has levelled up quicker. The fight itself isn't that hard, but beware, Ozma uses shadow damage to heal itself for 9999 every single time, the bottom line: If you do NOT cause 9999 to Ozma each time, the fight is pretty much over before it starts, use heavy skills, like Thievery, Climhazzard, Shock, No Mercy, Dragon Crest, etc.

#2:
Seen as Ozma is a shadow monster, it is incredibly weak against Holy magic, so If you wish, take Eiko and Dagger with you, "What's this about taking Dagger?!" I hear you say? Well, if you have defeated Ark (And trust me, you will have) you will kno wthat he gives you a Pumice peice, but, Ozma isn't the only character who you can get a pumice peice off, use your chocograph (http://www.rpgplace.net/ff9/misc/chocobo.php) and find the Pumice Peice, once you have done this, you should be able to synth the peices together, giving you the mighty Ark summon, as well as this, have Eiko REPEATEDLY cast Holy, non stop, I suppose she could start the battle by casting Carbunkle, but Ozma may use Shadow attacks that will reflect and heal him, on top of Zidane Eiko and Dagger, have a heavy hitter, such as Steiner or Armarant, but make sure you have completed the friendly monsters challenge, or this will be a tough fight.

Good luck...

cloud^

03-18-2005, 04:29 AM

Heh, I haven't even beaten FFIX, I stopped playing when I reached disc 3. I don't know why, I just stopped playing. I haven't played a Final Fantasy game ever since...

Can't wait for Advent Children. I've watched the trailer so many times, it looks sweet.

IAJP

03-18-2005, 12:02 PM

I stopped for a while, I re-discovered it a while ago though.

Brew

03-18-2005, 04:30 PM

I was playing VII earlier, I'm at Cosmo Canyon.

Easily the place with the coolest music in FF7

IAJP

03-18-2005, 04:35 PM

What about the weird forrest next to it?
That has the best music ever created for a game of all time.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-18-2005, 05:19 PM

I was playing VII earlier, I'm at Cosmo Canyon.

Easily the place with the coolest music in FF7

Im working on a metal version of that right now. it seemed like the perfect type to get such a treatment

IAJP

03-18-2005, 05:41 PM

That'd be awesome,
I was rehearsing the weird forrest music metal style only today :cool:

red barchetta

03-18-2005, 05:59 PM

Im working on a metal version of that right now. it seemed like the perfect type to get such a treatment
what, like black mages style?

sweet :cool:

red barchetta

03-18-2005, 06:05 PM

:thumb:

Dragon Crest+No Mercy+Thievery (If you've been stealing a lot)+Shock.

=9999 every time,
and you can end the battle in around 8 turns.
you, my friend, are a ff9 master :thumb:

frog drop can do a lot of damage too if you've caught a lot of frogs.

Brew

03-18-2005, 06:09 PM

Im working on a metal version of that right now. it seemed like the perfect type to get such a treatment
Nice, upload the song when you've finished it?

FlyingPaul_83

03-18-2005, 06:32 PM

I am a revenant

03-19-2005, 07:01 AM

I've just bought a copy of FF VII which is apparently a "new" copy so this is going to be my entertainment for a while.

IAJP

03-19-2005, 09:57 AM

you, my friend, are a ff9 master :thumb:

frog drop can do a lot of damage too if you've caught a lot of frogs.

:cool: Thanks.
But seriously, I was always better and understood FF9 more,
you can cause 9999 damage if you've levelled up properly and met the requirements.
I know how these following attacks work and the criteria for them:

Theivery: The ammount of times you have stole from an enemy, each time you steal the attack rating goes up around 4 HP.

Frog Drop: Quina's level, multiplied by the ammount of frogs caught, eg, Level:50, frogs caught:70, Damage=3500.

Dragon Crest: The ammount of dragons you have killed with Freya in your party (Here's my tip, have Quina and Freya and another member in your party, fight a grand dragon, and use Level 5 Death by Quina, this will instantly kill them, this raises The Dragon crest attack power by nearly 1000 each time, it's good to level up with too)

Shock And Climhazzard: These attacks kick arse anyway, so I won't explain it.

The only attack I don't understand the criteria for is Armarant's No Mercy, If someone could tell me I'd be greatful.

IAJP

03-19-2005, 04:44 PM

Woah,
I just got 99 frogs and Master Quale challenges you, that fecker is one hard guy,
Good things:
He's weak to Thunder, Thundaga, Thundaga Sword, bingo.

Bad Things:
He is a tough little bastard, and he has over 20,000 HP.

Best thing is you get the "Gourmand Fork" for Quina, which rules.
:cool:

Adam Jones is GOD

03-19-2005, 04:56 PM

Now you never need to catch frogs again

IAJP

03-19-2005, 04:58 PM

Just level up to make Frog Drop stronger.
:cool:

Kingofdudes

03-20-2005, 08:23 AM

If you got to the remix website I posted before, they have a version of the Cosmo Canyon song

National chaos sam

03-20-2005, 10:55 AM

*posts because he has to, seeing as its Final Fantasy

Err....er....errr......Not long till FF3 released to the UK now. Thats a start
really!? i see myself as an FF veteran and i dint now that!! SHAME ON ME!!!

National chaos sam

03-20-2005, 10:56 AM

Im working on a metal version of that right now. it seemed like the perfect type to get such a treatment
I did a metal version of- Holding my thought in my heart from ff7. Its a hidden track on my bands demo.

FF music is so cool to emulate. theres lots of possiblilities. :thumb:

Brew

03-20-2005, 11:42 AM

If I can be arsed getting Windows XP and a copy of Cubase SX I'll do my own versions of FF songs and probably some metal songs, for fun.

IAJP

03-20-2005, 04:58 PM

I probbably will too, :cool:

Black Dog

03-21-2005, 08:08 AM

is ffxii been made yet

IAJP

03-21-2005, 11:18 AM

What, FF X-2?
Yes.

Turkish

03-21-2005, 12:28 PM

FF X-2 isn't FFXII, X-2 was a sequel of X and XII should be coming out later this year.

Brew

03-21-2005, 02:57 PM

Apparently XII has no more random battles.

That should be interesting.

I am a revenant

03-21-2005, 03:05 PM

Apparently XII has no more random battles.

That should be interesting.

Hmm that would make gaining EXP a lot harder. If they include it that is.

Brew

03-21-2005, 03:11 PM

True, I think they're bringing back a system thats similar to the materia system aswell.

IAJP

03-22-2005, 08:40 AM

FF X-2 isn't FFXII, X-2 was a sequel of X and XII should be coming out later this year.
Yeah sorry,
I pretty much lost interest after FF9.

IAJP

03-22-2005, 08:41 AM

Apparently XII has no more random battles.

That should be interesting.
No more random battles?
What a load of crap!

p3ss1m1st

03-22-2005, 10:10 AM

Hmm that would make gaining EXP a lot harder. If they include it that is.
No, they didn't have random battles in Chrono Cross. If I remember correctly. No random battles as in you can see the monsters pacing around, typically blocking a story path or treasure. Probably how they'll do it. In Chrono Cross they respawned afterwards. But I haven't played it in four years, so I may be wrong.

Materia would be a good time.

Brew

03-22-2005, 12:48 PM

No more random battles?
What a load of crap!

Random Battles sucked. They were really annoying when wandering the world map with limited items such as potions and ethers.

I am a revenant

03-22-2005, 12:53 PM

I got FF VII in the post today, brand new (still had the cellophane packaging on) ahh replaying it is great. The gameplay is still great aswell.

Turkish

03-22-2005, 04:07 PM

playing Final Fantasy XI right now...just got my summoner job..oh joy it's so awesome!

IAJP

03-22-2005, 04:58 PM

Can someone help me on Pandemonium on FF9?
:upset:

Cullie

03-23-2005, 01:30 AM

FF - Slow as hell, hard as hell, cool.
FFII - Never really played, I'm told it is good.
FFIII - Not released in the UK
FFIV - Amazing. Cool soundtrack, characters and story. Preferred it over most.
FFV - Takes ages to level, but cool job system.
FFVI - The best. Kefka rocked. Amazing everythingness. Even graphics (the animations were so cool).
FFVII - Ok, cool materia system and world. Not bad story, Aeris smelled bad. Sephiroth is all talk. Looked cool though.
FFVIII - Stylish characters, cool story and a decent system (junction), best airship, lots of GFs :) Problem was it was too easy to level.
FFIX - Zidane rocked. So did other characters (barring Eiko). Big world and cool chocobo digging game.
FFX - Most characters sucked. More fun with break damage, and cool system. Story wasn't bad either.
FFX-2 - I'm allergic to crap games...

FFXI... This game will take your money and time away from you constantly. It requires a lot of dedication to advance, especially at higher levels. It can take about a week to gain a level on the higher end of a job. Also, gil sellers and bots have ruined the experience. If you want to risk uncontrollably throwing your social life away, buy this game. If not, stick with the other FF games. If you play it... BE BARD!

blue3

03-23-2005, 01:33 AM

Is FFX-2 easy or worth playing? I have the game but never played it yet

I am a revenant

03-23-2005, 04:41 AM

Is FFX-2 easy or worth playing? I have the game but never played it yet

I wouldnt say it was easy, there are some very difficult secret bosses that I haven't killed yet. To complete it fully you have to play throught the game twice to get 100% completion. Stick the game in and decide for yourself. I enjoyed playing it and so i do think it's worth playing.

red barchetta

03-23-2005, 11:45 AM

FFVIII - Stylish characters, cool story and a decent system (junction), best airship, lots of GFs :) Problem was it was too easy to level.

that is because leveling up didnt do much to your stats and just made the enemies stronger. it's easy to beat ultimecia or omega weapon with a lvl10 squall.

IAJP

03-23-2005, 03:03 PM

FFIX - Zidane rocked. So did other characters (barring Eiko). Big world and cool chocobo digging game.

Wrong,
Eiko is probbably one of the most useful characters in the game,
In terms of Curative magic she is, in terms of Eidelons maybe not..But who cares?

Kwash2

03-24-2005, 03:34 AM

MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

I can now clear any map in one turn, on FFT!!! And it's only riovanes castle.

Did I mention I'm only using ramza?

Edit - I'll put how I accomplished this later, but only if somebody asks.

I am a revenant

03-24-2005, 03:37 AM

Kwash2

03-24-2005, 04:24 AM

Gladly. This tactic is commonly referred to as the ramza solo, in that you make sure that ramza is the only character you select at the start screen. It's a bit of a challenge, and I wouldn't suggest it for a first timer. Eh, who am I kidding, this way is sooo insanely cheap and easy.

First off, make sure no matter what class ramza is, he has Guts. Nothing else matters at the moment. At the beginning of every fight (except for the first, that fight is easily the game's hardest with my method), have ramza run away into the corner, while the NPC (delita, algus, whoever) runs up and stalls the enemy. The whole time you are in the corner, just keep casting yell! Keep running, and by the time you get your speed up to 99, you'll be having 9 or 10 turns per every one the enemy has. Then start casting accumulate, until it hits 50, and you'll be able to lay the battlefield to waste. Not to mention you'll also have gained more job points than you'll know what to do with, and you'll have gained 8 or 9 levels in the process.

Keep doing this every fight (about the fifth or sixth battle this game will be a cakewalk, the only hard level in the whole game after this is the one where you fight all chocobos), and work your way through the job class tree until you can be a calculator. BUT (THIS IS IMPORTANT) make sure that along the way, you grab MP Switch (so when you get hit, it detracts from your MP and not your HP), Magic Attack Plus (not sure the exact name, its a black mage skill), Move MP-UP, teleport (not really necesary, but you should have like a billion job points in that class already, so why not), and every high end black mage skill (and holy for the hell of it, it's actually my spell of choice).

Go into your first fight as a calculator with guts equipped as your second skill, then, you know the drill yell until speed hits 99, and accumulate until strength hits 50. Learn EVERY single calculator job skill. The game is now over. Sacrifice ALL else in your equipment (HP, status immunities, whatever) to raise your magic attack, nothing else matters seeing as how most battle will end in (at the most) two turns.

Now, how to win every fight in the game.
First thing, cast CT - 5 - Holy. That should hit everything on the map (most of the time, sometimes you have to cast it twice), including you. This is the part that makes me laugh like an omnipotent bastard. MP Switch kicks in, it detracts from your MP, making it 0. Move a panel, and you immediately have MP again. You only need 1 MP, seeing as how calculator skills require none.

The game is over.

p3ss1m1st

03-24-2005, 10:10 AM

Wow. That is some ****. And I was stuck on Velias...

Kingofdudes

03-24-2005, 01:57 PM

Wow. That is some ****. And I was stuck on Velias...

To beat Velius, just use his guts technique minus the whole calculator thing. Make sure you have the move-hp up technique on Ramza aswell. If you do it enough you can kill Wiegraf and Velius each in one hit.

red barchetta

03-24-2005, 03:59 PM

Wrong,
Eiko is probbably one of the most useful characters in the game,
In terms of Curative magic she is, in terms of Eidelons maybe not..But who cares?
Eiko > Garnet/Dagger

Kwash2

03-24-2005, 07:04 PM

I eliminated velius and his wierdo archaic demons in one turn.

Kwash2

03-24-2005, 07:05 PM

p3ss1m1st

03-24-2005, 08:34 PM

To beat Velius, just use his guts technique minus the whole calculator thing. Make sure you have the move-hp up technique on Ramza aswell. If you do it enough you can kill Wiegraf and Velius each in one hit.
As a monk, my character, without any of that bull**** cheating, does 16 damage, I think. Power. To Wiegraf I can kill him in one hit already. The problem is being able to reach him before he lightning stabs me three times. Then I just gave up on Velius. And on the game in general. But that tactic definitely ruins the game.

Kingofdudes

03-24-2005, 08:45 PM

Thats the only battle I ever use it on. Besides, is it worth starting a new file over just this one battle?

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-24-2005, 09:26 PM

As a monk, my character, without any of that bull**** cheating, does 16 damage, I think. Power. To Wiegraf I can kill him in one hit already. The problem is being able to reach him before he lightning stabs me three times. Then I just gave up on Velius. And on the game in general. But that tactic definitely ruins the game.

i used the auto-potion thing with X-potions. You need to get rid off all the lower potions or they won't be strong enough. It helps because it (most of the time, sometimes it doesn't activate) frees up a turn to knock him upside the head.
But it's kinda annoying having to go out of the way to make Ramza a chemist just to learn one ability that costs 400 jp, screw that.

anyone else think that FFT advance sucked royal balls compated to the PS1 FFT?

Kingofdudes

03-24-2005, 09:32 PM

i used the auto-potion thing with X-potions. You need to get rid off all the lower potions or they won't be strong enough. It helps because it (most of the time, sometimes it doesn't activate) frees up a turn to knock him upside the head.
But it's kinda annoying having to go out of the way to make Ramza a chemist just to learn one ability that costs 400 jp, screw that.

anyone else think that FFT advance sucked royal balls compated to the PS1 FFT?

Yes it did. The battle system got boring fast, and laws are just there to be annoying.

Drall

03-24-2005, 09:34 PM

Best lead character development ever was in Final Fantasy II with Cecil. Such a badass...

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-24-2005, 09:38 PM

Im working on a metal version of that right now. it seemed like the perfect type to get such a treatment

i think the boss theme music could use a nice metal makeoever, death metal maybe?

also, One Winged Angel, but with added metal. It could make a grand symphonic black metal song IMO

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-24-2005, 09:42 PM

Best lead character development ever was in Final Fantasy II with Cecil. Such a badass...

hell yeah, going from dark knight to paladin, no change is more drastic. Cecil was cool in FFII, but Kain was more of a badass, i mean, he went from good, to bad, to good, to bad again, how cool is that?! Its like using sephiroth for a bit in FFVII
(i mean really, not that whole memory thing)

FlyingPaul_83

03-24-2005, 09:52 PM

hell yeah, going from dark knight to paladin, no change is more drastic. Cecil was cool in FFII, but Kain was more of a badass, i mean, he went from good, to bad, to good, to bad again, how cool is that?! Its like using sephiroth for a bit in FFVII
(i mean really, not that whole memory thing)

That was cool when you got to use him in the dream. I tried to unequip his materia and equip it to cloud but it didn't work :upset:

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-24-2005, 09:54 PM

yeah, and its too bad you didn't get to keep the Pre-emptive materia that Could had.

Kwash2

03-25-2005, 12:11 AM

FlyingPaul_83

03-25-2005, 12:53 AM

Which main character do you think has the coolest hair, I think It's squall. his hair is so badasss

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-25-2005, 01:12 AM

i say cloud, he has that huge spike of hair, and the rest of it is, 'sprouting' in all directions from it. Different, and cool

burning star IV

03-25-2005, 01:19 AM

Cloud kicks ***.

FlyingPaul_83

03-25-2005, 01:39 AM

Cloud would come in 2nd for me. Zidane and tidus don't really have cool lookin hair

Kwash2

03-25-2005, 03:53 AM

Kuja.

I know what you are thinking, and you wouldn't believe how much I don't care.

That guy's hair was gorgeous.

supra_speed

03-25-2005, 04:01 AM

Kuja's and Sephiroth's hair pwned. so did oz.......

Angmar00

03-25-2005, 04:10 AM

Sephiroth has the coolest hair!! its so **** long:)

Echleon

03-25-2005, 04:54 AM

It makes you wonder how they seem to keep their hair in perfect style throughout all those battles.

IAJP

03-25-2005, 06:36 AM

Which main character do you think has the coolest hair, I think It's squall. his hair is so badasss
It has to be Armarant from FF9.
And yeah, I completed the 3rd disc of FF9, finally.
It was suprisingly easy, and anyone who disses Garland is a poo poo head!

So, who's everyone's favourite character from any of the FF series?
I'm yet to decide, I'll post later though...

red barchetta

03-25-2005, 07:17 AM

kuja's theme song is so good...

discuss who has the best theme song in final fantasy. you can download them here:

http://www.ffhybrid.net/mp3/mp3s.php

registering is free BTW

red barchetta

03-25-2005, 07:18 AM

It has to be Armarant from FF9.
And yeah, I completed the 3rd disc of FF9, finally.
It was suprisingly easy, and anyone who disses Garland is a poo poo head!

So, who's everyone's favourite character from any of the FF series?
I'm yet to decide, I'll post later though...
it has to be either locke or setzer from ff6.

Echleon

03-25-2005, 07:39 AM

I really like the music when you battle Trance Kuja at the end of Memoria.
Is it on that site? I can't find it :(

red barchetta

03-25-2005, 07:48 AM

I really like the music when you battle Trance Kuja at the end of Memoria.
Is it on that site? I can't find it :(
try looking at disk 4 of 'FF IX OST'

Echleon

03-25-2005, 07:55 AM

try looking at disk 4 of 'FF IX OST'

Ty, ill give it a look :)

I Lie. I Cheat. I Steal.

03-25-2005, 08:05 AM

My boyfriend plays FF11, and I've been on it...it seems like a lot of work for a game.

Echleon

03-25-2005, 08:09 AM

I think the soundtracks called Dark Messenger, but im not too sure.

red barchetta

03-25-2005, 08:13 AM

I think the soundtracks called Dark Messenger, but im not too sure.
i think so too, its probably the one just before 'final battle'

IAJP

03-26-2005, 08:56 AM

kuja's theme song is so good...

discuss who has the best theme song in final fantasy. you can download them here:

http://www.ffhybrid.net/mp3/mp3s.php

registering is free BTW
Thanks for that link man, plus, loving your usertitle :lol:.
But yeah, my favourite theme song is probbably Vivi's.
The Black Mage Vilage music is good, but the best piece of music for a place in FF9 is deffinitley Oelivert, it's perfect. (If you haven't heard it, it's the music on the welcome screen of FF9 but a little bit seedier and a lot better)
I've been scouring the internet for it, I can't seem to find it though :upset:
(Hint, if you have it can you send it please?!:D)

Echleon

03-26-2005, 11:00 AM

I am a revenant

03-26-2005, 12:42 PM

I might start 7 or 9 again soon...

They should make a IX-2.

Actually, no they shoudln't because it'll end up sucking like X-2

Does anybody have any information about the Prequals and Sequals to VII?
I don't really understand whats going on, apart from ones for PS2, Mobile and anothers and movie.

The prequel to VII is called "Before crisis" and follows the story of the Turks and is being made by "Square-Enix Mobile" so the game is for mobiles.

You can see some screenshots of Advent Children on the official website: http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dvd/ff7ac/.

FlyingPaul_83

03-26-2005, 01:03 PM

Brew

03-26-2005, 02:00 PM

I completed FFIX today :cool:

I've had it for about 4 years :(

Echleon

03-26-2005, 02:10 PM

I just restarted FFIX today.

Brew

03-26-2005, 02:27 PM

I restarted it sometime last year after being repeatedly pwned by Necron.

Fun Fact - None of my team were over lvl60.

Jon

03-26-2005, 02:58 PM

I would play FF, but its just like a Power Metal version of Pokemon Stadium amirite

Brew

03-26-2005, 03:01 PM

No.

Final Fantasy > Pokémon > You

mmmkay?

MalcolmYoungRock

03-26-2005, 03:18 PM

I would play FF, but its just like a Power Metal version of Pokemon Stadium amirite

nournotriteleaveforumnow

Echleon

03-26-2005, 03:18 PM

I would play FF, but its just like a Power Metal version of Pokemon Stadium amirite

Hmmm...apart from Pokemon Stadium had no actual storyline.

Jon

03-26-2005, 04:44 PM

Well, the way they do combat?

I've never actually played FF though, just word of mouth.

Brew

03-26-2005, 04:54 PM

Its turn-based combat, which takes alot more skill than Pokemon.

IAJP

03-26-2005, 04:55 PM

The only similarities between the Final Fantasy series are it's origin.
Japan,
and how can you judge if it's by word of mouth?!

IAJP

03-26-2005, 05:00 PM

nournotriteleaveforumnow
I love you more than I did before because of that post :)

MalcolmYoungRock

03-26-2005, 05:04 PM

Well, the way they do combat?

I've never actually played FF though, just word of mouth.

Me: Go, Cloud! Use Sword Slash attack!

Cloud: Cloud! Cloud! *slashes*

Me: Cloud, return! *zaps Cloud into Pokeball*

Me: Go, Squall!

Squall: ......

Me: Squall, use gunblade attack!

*Squall falls asleep*

Yeah, genius, very similar.

IAJP

03-26-2005, 05:13 PM

Plus FF is actually good, and not incredibly gay.

Brew

03-26-2005, 05:16 PM

:lol:

pwned.

Grey Incision

03-26-2005, 05:19 PM

i loved 7 and 8, i think it's been going downhill since 7 though, and as for favourite characters in all the games

7-Vincent
8-Zell
9-Vivi
10-Auron

MalcolmYoungRock

03-26-2005, 05:19 PM

So, who's gotten all the legendary weapons on 10, and all the crests and sigils?

I've gotten Tidus, Auron, Yuna, and Rikku everything. I need sigils for Wakka, Lulu, and Kimhari.

IAJP

03-26-2005, 05:27 PM

I haven't played 10 much, I just got Zidane's ultimate weapon on FF9 though, aptly named "Ultimate Weapon" :lol:

Grey Incision

03-26-2005, 05:32 PM

9 was my least favourite by a long shot, it just shat me right off, i think my game glitched up, :p when i was trying to finish the game fully, by taking on ozma and all, the chocobo thing stuffed me up, one of the places just glitched and could never get past it. It's the one game i haven't fully explored of them all. What else is secret about this game?

Oh, and i personally think that they should BRING BACK THE WEAPONS FFVII style, emerald and ruby weapon were my favourite part of the game, and then they took them out of the games? and no world map in FFX? what? why?

/finished bitch session

Jon

03-26-2005, 05:52 PM

Its turn-based combat, which takes alot more skill than Pokemon.
zing

MalcolmYoungRock

03-26-2005, 05:54 PM

zing

What he means is, Pokemon, you can wait, FFVII, you have to go fast, because it's also turn based/ real time combat.

Jon

03-26-2005, 05:59 PM

oic

Selecting moves/actions from a list is lame.

MalcolmYoungRock

03-26-2005, 07:15 PM

oic

Selecting moves/actions from a list is lame.

That's what pokemon does.

At least with FF you have a time limit to do it.

The Depressed

03-26-2005, 07:27 PM

Oh, and i personally think that they should BRING BACK THE WEAPONS FFVII style, emerald and ruby weapon were my favourite part of the game, and then they took them out of the games?

erm...I'm not sure about 9, but 8 had Omega and Ultima, whereas X had the Dark Aeons which were pretty much 'Weapons' due to their difficulty.

FlyingPaul_83

03-26-2005, 11:35 PM

erm...I'm not sure about 9, but 8 had Omega and Ultima, whereas X had the Dark Aeons which were pretty much 'Weapons' due to their difficulty.

IX had Ozma who is like a weapon because of his difficulty

Kwash2

03-27-2005, 01:17 AM

^^^ Mhmm'd.

I do think that they need to bring back the weapons, not a thing like it, but I mean a REAL weapon. TWO million hit points. And instead of an attack that does 9,999, make one that does 9,999,999. Sapphire Weapon owns you.

Bitches.

Kwash2

03-27-2005, 01:19 AM

So, who's gotten all the legendary weapons on 10, and all the crests and sigils?

I've gotten Tidus, Auron, Yuna, and Rikku everything. I need sigils for Wakka, Lulu, and Kimhari.
Yuna, Auron, Tidus.

Never used anybody else once I had the chance to use only them.

Also, did anybody think that the end boss are pretty pathetic really? Like, compare Omega Weapon, to Savior Sephiroth.

Savior Sephiroth (it's been a while since I did this, so it may be off) - Debarrier (to get rid of wall) Knights of the round, mime.

red barchetta

03-27-2005, 07:15 AM

Also, did anybody think that the end boss are pretty pathetic really? Like, compare Omega Weapon, to Savior Sephiroth.

Savior Sephiroth (it's been a while since I did this, so it may be off) - Debarrier (to get rid of wall) Knights of the round, mime.
ff10 had the worst last boss ever.

1. the music was veeery poor
2. easy
3. all of them look stupid
4. they had bad names - i mean, sin compared to sephiroth, zeromus, neo-exdeath, ultimecia???

10 was a bad game in general. final fantasy is going down hill... :upset:

ooh, and i have another reason why having talking characters is bad - you can't rename any characters apart from the main one.

Mister_Che

03-27-2005, 09:26 AM

I liked FFX's visuals. But alot of the "good" voice acting was horrible. And wheres my world map?!

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 09:29 AM

I liked FFX's visuals. But alot of the "good" voice acting was horrible. And wheres my world map?!

Like the part where Tidus is like "ga... ga... GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!" and at the end *spoiler* when he's like "*cry* I hate you dad *cry*"

I was laughing so hard at the crappiness.

Brew

03-27-2005, 09:31 AM

The lack of world map in FFX really sucked.

Mister_Che

03-27-2005, 09:32 AM

Since it was on PS2, imagine what the world map would've been like. Oh man and the Airship, the UGLy ugly airship. Nothing beats Ragnarok.

Brew

03-27-2005, 09:38 AM

Hopefully XII will have a bitchin' world map.

I am a revenant

03-27-2005, 09:43 AM

Hopefully XII will have a bitchin' world map.

Do you know if they are going to include a world map in XII?

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 10:52 AM

Do you know if they are going to include a world map in XII?

Key word is HOPEFULLY, buddy.

FlyingPaul_83

03-27-2005, 10:52 AM

They have to, that would be gay if they didin't

Echleon

03-27-2005, 11:12 AM

XII looks similar to X imo.

After re-starting IX, I am now in Dali. Disc is scratched up bad and froze on the cut-scene where you're escaping from the Evil Forest. I hope this doesnt happen in any other scenes or i'll be annoyed :angry:

Brew

03-27-2005, 11:30 AM

My FFVII disc 1 is buggered, every now and again the screen goes MEH and I can't see anything but Cloud running around - text boxes etc...are all screwed up.

Although, I did manage to beat Gi Natick + Soul Fires when the screen was like that earlier :cool:

It does suck though when you're no-where near a save point and it happens :(

I was thinking...the FF thread regulars should get avatars of their fav. FF character and a usertitle which reflects the series, similar to the Titans of Thrash, Baphomet Hoard and the former Circle of Bards.

Yay/Nay?

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 11:47 AM

hellz yeah yay

edit: Actually Auron, there arent many good Ramza pictures

Echleon

03-27-2005, 11:49 AM

Cool idea. i call Kuja/Trance Kuja

Any thought on the User title?

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:02 PM

I was kinda hoping someone else would pick a usertitle...

I call Sephiroth!

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:05 PM

Ohhh...

Well, im not really sure about user titles...

How about "FF(insert sumthing random here) - (insert character here)" lol.

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:11 PM

FF(game number)-(char. name)?

So mine would be

FFVII - Sephiroth

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:14 PM

Sounds good :thumb:

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 12:14 PM

done

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:17 PM

Excellent :cool:

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:22 PM

:) I see everyone is experimenting with avatars still, Lol.

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:23 PM

I found a great .gif of Sephiroth but I couldn't save it as a .gif file, only a .bmp :(

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:24 PM

I found a GIF of kuja, but it doesn't seem to be animated :(

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 12:24 PM

I found a great .gif of Sephiroth but I couldn't save it as a .gif file, only a .bmp :(

Use the pics URL. Thats how i made my old old old moogle one work, and my Dragonball one on US

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:28 PM

Use the pics URL. Thats how i made my old old old moogle one work, and my Dragonball one on US
:eek:

Cunning.

Edit: oooh yeh :cool:

IAJP

03-27-2005, 12:34 PM

Trance Kuja is Armarant!
I swear!
Oh well, it's Armarant or Cid for me, I'll choose and upload my avatar in a sec.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 12:37 PM

Now that would have been a plot twist.

Im tempted to go back to my moogle days now. The mages are cement clad elites now, so maybe they can be left for a while

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:38 PM

Ive been trying to find a Gif for Kuja, but i cant :( Oh well, lets get onto some Final Fantasy talk...

I've got work in 15 mins, when i get back im either gonna browse the forums or play some FFIX. I wanna become quite good at Tetra Master this time, ive played the women in the Dali weapon shop a few times and got 1 perfect against her :)

I hope FFXII has another card game, and it also better have a world map.
I dont really understand Square-Enix at the moment. I think they've got too caught up with FFX.
I mean, you got FFX, FFX-2, and now FFXII which is set 2 years after FFX. They need to move on imo. I'd like to see another Medievil themed Final Fantasy like IX.

Thoughts?

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 12:40 PM

The world map has to return, no doubt.
I personally dont care when its set, but the characters have to be less whiney and shallow than the last 2.

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:41 PM

I prefer the theme to FFIX, the fantasy/medieval(sp?) style is better IMO.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:43 PM

Yeah, Tidus was really whiney. He was no where near as cool and mysterious as Cloud, Squall and Zidane.

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:47 PM

The twist at the end of IX where Zidane goes back to rescue Kuja was pretty cool.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 12:49 PM

VII is still my favourite FF game. Though recently looking back and playing IX, i m remembering how much i really did enjoy that game.

VII was just so imersive. Everything about it was genius, the plot, the heroes, and espcially the villians (Sephiroth kicked ***). I suppose it was the first FF game i'd ever played so im still attached to it.

I remember when my PSX got nicked, i was so pissed that i couldn't play FFVII, i was right at a good bit aswell! In the Temple of the Ancients! But my Aunt let me have hers so it was ok.

Then i had to start the whole thing again because my Memory Card got screwed :angry: But it didn't matter, because i got Buhamet Zero that time.

Yeah so i got work at 7:45

Oh shi

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:52 PM

IAJP

03-27-2005, 12:56 PM

So, how's my new avatar working?
:cool:?

Brew

03-27-2005, 12:57 PM

Mine > yours.

I am a revenant

03-27-2005, 12:58 PM

I was playing FFVII earlier, it took some effort for me to switch it off and find something to eat, I can easily get lost playing it.

Now that I'm older, the story makes more sense and I understand it more, back when I was 11/12 it kinda flew over my head a bit.

Edit: Aeris' Theme just came on my media player :)

That happened to me too, when i was younger I hardly followed the plot, now I'm playing it again now it's even more fun because i know whats going on better.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:01 PM

Mine > yours.
No, but:
Armarant>Sepiroth.

Brew

03-27-2005, 01:05 PM

No, but:
Armarant>Sepiroth.

/me angrily shakes fist at you.

That happened to me too, when i was younger I hardly followed the plot, now I'm playing it again now it's even more fun because i know whats going on better.

Yeh, I've also found that its easier to pick-up on jokes in the game aswell.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:09 PM

I used to snicker at Barret saying bastard when I was younger :p
EDIT:
crap, 3000 posts without realising it. :cool:

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 01:17 PM

I used to snicker at Barret saying bastard when I was younger :p
EDIT:
crap, 3000 posts without realising it. :cool:

You know what that means 'cough cough'

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:19 PM

I'm imature?
:cool:

I am a revenant

03-27-2005, 01:28 PM

Does anyone remember the best place to train up characters in FFVII? I really cant remember, (yay my avatar is working).

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 01:31 PM

Does anyone remember the best place to train up characters in FFVII? I really cant remember, (yay my avatar is working).

Lvl up = Shinra Plane in the ocean

AP up = Mideel island, using a high power growth weapon

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:31 PM

Under water, there's a weird shipwreck, that's where I do mine.
The desert by Corel is good too.

Edit:
Crap, beaten to it.

I am a revenant

03-27-2005, 01:34 PM

^Thanks I'll go there when i can.

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 01:52 PM

IAJP, you reminded me of who I want now...

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:56 PM

What?
My avatar?

IAJP

03-27-2005, 01:59 PM

IAJP, you reminded me of who I want now...
Oh I see now,
I'm not insulting avatar quality or whatever, but there's a better picture here:
http://www.ffquest.com/cid_face.gif
:)

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 02:04 PM

w0rd

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 02:09 PM

does anyone know where i can find a GOOD avatar of Kain from FFII? i mean, it was made so long ago all the drawings and pictures i've seen of him are just screens from the game

The Depressed

03-27-2005, 02:14 PM

... and now FFXII which is set 2 years after FFX ...

:confused: I think you'll find it isn't. Since when has a place called Dalmasca been in X?

Oh, and my Zell avatar pwns all the rest of your avatars :p

EDIT to FPAHTK - http://ffworldmedias.free.fr/ffworld/images/ff/ff4/arts/persos/big/kain2.jpg is the best one I've found.

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 02:19 PM

EDIT to FPAHTK - http://ffworldmedias.free.fr/ffworld/images/ff/ff4/arts/persos/big/kain2.jpg is the best one I've found.

freaking awsome, it'll do. I've been looking for this exact picture actually, thanks

p3ss1m1st

03-27-2005, 02:26 PM

Lvl up = Shinra Plane in the ocean

AP up = Mideel island, using a high power growth weapon
Or just go to the ****ed Crater, set the save at the circular point before the stone steps down, and then backtrack, so you can master everything. I mastered green materia in no time and had three Mimes within two hours. Probably less. Triple growth.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 02:30 PM

Yay, im back from my shift.

It's been ages since i played FFVII properly. When i finish FFIX again, ill probably start on this one again. Beating the final Sephiroth using Omnislash is one of the greatest gaming moments ever imo.

I think you'll find it isn't. Since when has a place called Dalmasca been in X?

Well, i watched the trailer on IGN, and it distincivly said on the screen "two years after Final Fantasy X."

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/488/488222/vids_1.html

Here's the link. If you still dont believe me, watch the 6/25/2004 trailer.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 02:35 PM

does anyone know where i can find a GOOD avatar of Kain from FFII? i mean, it was made so long ago all the drawings and pictures i've seen of him are just screens from the game
Hmm, I'll see what I can do.
But to anyone looking for avatars:
www.ffquest.com
Click what game, and characters, and then you will find the avatar.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 02:35 PM

Or just go to the ****ed Crater, set the save at the circular point before the stone steps down, and then backtrack, so you can master everything. I mastered green materia in no time and had three Mimes within two hours. Probably less. Triple growth.

Or that. The ones I suggested are just easier to heal up and save with, wheras the crater you have to fight back to save points

p3ss1m1st

03-27-2005, 02:39 PM

Or that. The ones I suggested are just easier to heal up and save with, wheras the crater you have to fight back to save points
I used Mideel as a base for leveling, then after buying plenty of supplies and having Final Attack and whatnot, went down to the Crater. Those red things are amazing. Triple growth with three of 'em. 7200 AP right there.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 02:43 PM

Mideel was cool, had some great music.
I used the undewater ship a lot more though.

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 02:44 PM

http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/488/488222/vids_1.html

Here's the link. If you still dont believe me, watch the 6/25/2004 trailer.
They may mean they started working on FFXII, 2 years after FFX.

The world of FFXII is gonna be entirely different than FFX's. It is gonna be like the one from FF Tactics Advance. It also sounds like the music is ging to be like from the first FFT(And that is a very good thing).

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 02:47 PM

hoohah, it worked. Finnaly after my **** computer stopped messing up.

Anyway, i hear that FF12 is supposed to be alot more 'mature' than all the other final fantasies

EDIT: im suprised no one wants to have a Vincent avatar

Echleon

03-27-2005, 02:48 PM

They may mean they started working on FFXII, 2 years after FFX.

The world of FFXII is gonna be entirely different than FFX's. It is gonna be like the one from FF Tactics Advance. It also sounds like the music is ging to be like from the first FFT(And that is a very good thing).

Ah, right I see what you mean.

I hope FFXII will be a good game.

Does anybody know about any FF games being released on the Nintendo DS or PSP?
Have Square-Enix confirmed any games for these consoles?

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 02:48 PM

That trailer, granted, looks impressive, but I said that about X and X-2. Im awaitng more info about what they hav echanged, or restored.

In other words, the return of the world map, dammit

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 02:50 PM

i hope they make FFtactis for the PSP, i mean, how cool would that be?

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 02:53 PM

Ah, right I see what you mean.

I hope FFXII will be a good game.

Does anybody know about any FF games being released on the Nintendo DS or PSP?
Have Square-Enix confirmed any games for these consoles?

They will probably be gay and release them on both :-/

FF:AC be on the PSP

IAJP

03-27-2005, 02:53 PM

Echleon

03-27-2005, 02:54 PM

They made one for GBA, so I doubt they'd make another for PSP, but hey, i could be wrong.
Apparently there making Crystal Chronicals for DS. Hell, i dont care about the graphics, I'd be more than happy if they remade IV, V or VI for handheld. Id be exstatic (sp?) if they remade VII, VIII or IX.

Btw, has anyone else noticed that most final fantasy games have someone called Cid or Sid in them?

VII had the characted Cid.
VIII had headmaster Cid.
IX had regent Cid.
X had Cid that was on the airship

I think VI might of had one too, i cant remember though.

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:03 PM

no no, i mean the Tactics for PS1, if they made a direct port, that'd seal my deal in buying a PSP. THe Tactics Advance sucked so bad, it made me want to cry.

Anyway, its been every FF fan's dream since the PS2 came out that there would be remakes of VII, VIII, and IX, but thats probably not going to happen. I heard it was because they couldn't just improve the graphics and keep everything else, they would have to make a whole game from scratch, sure they have everthing they need (like story, magic systems, characters) but it would still take months of development. And no company wants to spend time working on something that whomever buys it, has already played it. Not good marketing or business.

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:06 PM

Btw, has anyone else noticed that most final fantasy games have someone called Cid or Sid in them?

VII had the characted Cid.
VIII had headmaster Cid.
IX had regent Cid.
X had Cid that was on the airship

I think VI might of had one too, i cant remember though.

and most of the time the Cid is mechanically inclined?

yeah, most of the FF games have things in common. Like black mages, moogles, chocobos. No matter how different the story is from the last, each FF has these things. It makes it all tie together and so no one ever goes, "it did't have chocobos, its not a final fantasy!"

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 03:09 PM

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:11 PM

Yeh, i suppose your right. I've never played the original PSX version of tactics, I dont think it ever reached the UK.
I just found out the FFIII and a new Crystal Chronicals game will be re-made/made for the the DS. Ive never played either so it should be good.
I alredy own a DS, so im a little reluctant to buy a PSP.
Did anybody own Crystal Chronicals for the GC? I was going to buy it, but i never got round to it after I read some dodgey reviews... It also looked abit ghey.

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 03:16 PM

/me calls Squall.

So, I look up Squall on google, and what do I find?

Anime ****.

Disgusting people on the interweb.

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 03:17 PM

Did anybody own Crystal Chronicals for the GC? I was going to buy it, but i never got round to it after I read some dodgey reviews... It also looked abit ghey.

I rented it, it was a bit sketchy and I didn't understand the plot.

It wasn't that fun to me though.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:17 PM

and most of the time the Cid is mechanically inclined?

yeah, most of the FF games have things in common. Like black mages, moogles, chocobos. No matter how different the story is from the last, each FF has these things. It makes it all tie together and so no one ever goes, "it did't have chocobos, its not a final fantasy!"

8 had the Moombas too. They were great, and need to be in more. I felt so sorry for them guys

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:18 PM

They also had Biggs and Wedge

7 - worked with Barrett

8 - Enemies that were biggs and wedge

9 - never played so I don't know

10 - Blitzball players

ah yes, that too. I haven't played IX in a long time but i don't think they're in there. There's alot of things besdies those i said, but some of em are more subtle. Like Dragoons, weapons (names and such) and since FFVIII, magic has been stuff like Thunder, Thundara, Thundaga. Airships (sure they've evolved, but it has always been the fastest transportation in any FF). Quite a few things really.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:19 PM

I know, its ****ing disgusting.

I tried looking up GIF avatars for Kuja, and about 8 of the pages were link's to Hentai sites. I really don't see how people get off to that ****

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:19 PM

Did anybody own Crystal Chronicals for the GC? I was going to buy it, but i never got round to it after I read some dodgey reviews... It also looked abit ghey.

Only worth it if you played Co-op with someone. It was very different from normal FF games, but it had its moments. It really only had the FF tag, pretty much everything else was experimental and unique.

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 03:19 PM

Who likes this avatar or....

I'll switch to the other one I made in about 10 mins.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:22 PM

MalcolmYoungRock

03-27-2005, 03:24 PM

Worst Soundtrack: FFX,

For God's sake, half the soundtrack was in Japenese!

The theme song was in FRICKIN' JAPANESE.

I didn't like the soundtrack either.

Now that I think about it, it's a really stupid plot also.

A big whale thing that can fly is killing everyone.

WTF?

Edit: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/squallavatar2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/squallavatar1.jpg

Which one's better?

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:27 PM

Here's my definitive list for FF:

Best Character: Zidane, (FF9)
Worst Character: Selphie, (FF8)
Best Plot: (FF7), loved all the stuff with Shinra, ancients.
Most Obscure character: Quina (FF9)
Best Baddie: Sepiroth (FF7)
Worst baddie: Seymor, (FF10)
Best Location: The Golden Saucer (FF7)
Worst Location: galbadia prison (FF8)
Best Soundtrack: FF9,
Worst Soundtrack: FF8
Best Overall Game: FF7 or FF9, it's really close
Worst Overall Game: FF8

Thats my opinion, not many changes from yours.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:27 PM

Theres a whale, theres a whale, theres a whalefish he cried, and the whale was in full view.
Whalefish, Whalefish, Whalefish
And the whale was in full view

/Mr.Scruff.

Sin was pretty lame.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:27 PM

Best Character:
Vivi

Worst Character:
Selphie

Best Plot:
7

Most Obscure character:
Quina

Best Baddie:
Sephiroth (Slowly becoming Kefka)

Worst (as in unbelievable) baddie:
Seifer

Best Location:
Gold Saucer

Worst Location:
Cave of the Gi

Best Soundtrack:
9

Worst Soundtrack:
X-2

Best Overall Game:
Still 7

Worst Overall Game:
8, if not counting CC

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:28 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v332/Clapton_Blues/squallavatar1.jpg

Is the Best imo

I think in FFX they got to caught up with their fancy "Sphere System" and showing off their graphics.

FFX was way too linear, you didnt really have much option on where to go, it was a bad idea to get rid of the World Map.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:29 PM

The first.
And yeah, FFX sucked huge ammounts.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:29 PM

For God's sake, half the soundtrack was in Japenese!

The theme song was in FRICKIN' JAPANESE.

I didn't like the soundtrack either.

Otherworld is one of the best FF tracks ever. X's music wasnt too bad, its X-2 that really lost the plot.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:30 PM

Best Character: Cloud (FF7)
Worst Character: Selphie (FF8)
Best Plot: A tie between FF7 and FF9
Most Obscure character: Quina (FF9)
Best Baddie: Sephiroth (FF7)
Worst baddie: Seifer (FF8)
Best Location: The Golden Saucer (FF7)
Worst Location: The space bit on disc 3, FF8
Best Soundtrack: FF9 or FF7
Worst Soundtrack: FF8
Best Overall Game: FF7 or FF9, it's really close
Worst Overall Game: FF8

Arr.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:31 PM

X-2 was just pointless.

I really dont know what possesed them to make that game.

If you ask me, all FF games since Square-Enix has been formed have sucked.

Worst Location: The space bit on disc 3, FF8

Oh yeh, i just rememberd how sucky that place was. Nothing actually happened up there!

The bit with the giant bugs pissed me off severly.

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:32 PM

Here's my definitive list for FF:
Best Character: Cid, (FF7)
Worst Character: Quistis, (FF8)
Best Plot: FF9, (With all the twists and crap)
Most Obscure character: Cait Sith or Quina (FF7 and FF9)
Best Baddie: Sepiroth (FF7)
Worst (as in unbelievable) baddie: Seifer, (FF8)
Best Location: The Golden Saucer (FF7)
Worst Location: galbadia prison (FF8)
Best Soundtrack: FF9,
Worst Soundtrack: FFX,
Best Overall Game: FF7 or FF9, it's really close :(,
Worst Overall Game: a toss up between FF8 and FF10.

:) :cool:

ima take your list

best char: Cecil (FF4)
Worst Char: gotta agree with quisitis
Best Plot: FFVII
Most Obscure Character: Red 13, i mean, he wasn't even at least humanoid
Best Baddie: Rubicon (FF4)
Worst Baddie: that insta-boss at the end of IX
Best Location: Northern Crater. So Epic!
worst location: Desert Palace (FF9)
Best Sountrack: FF7
Best Overall Game: FF7
Worst OVerall game: FF8

im going to add a couple more

BEst magic system: materia
worst magic system: junction
also,
best overworld: FF6, **** thing was huge
worst overworld (in a game that had one): FF8

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:33 PM

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:33 PM

Worst Location: The space bit on disc 3, FF8

Love scenes do not belong in a FF game. After beating off some nasty enemies, what are you rewarded with? 10 minutes of Squall and Riona flirting, with a crappy whiney japanese song backing.

:angry: Makes me mad just remembering it

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:34 PM

I'd agree with your magic systems too.
But on the topic of Quistis, at the end of the game when everyone was really high levels, she was 18 :p

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:34 PM

Oh yeh, i just rememberd how sucky that place was. Nothing actually happened up there!

That bit sucked so hard it made me stop playing FFVIII for about 3 months.

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:35 PM

Best Location: Northern Crater. So Epic!

Yeh, that was such an epic moment. Just knowing Sephiroth was down there, waiting. God i love that game so much.

BEst magic system: materia
worst magic system: junction

Agreed.

Brb guys, im off the make a bacon sandwich :)

Chrysostom

03-27-2005, 03:37 PM

Best Character: Vincent/ Squall.

Worst Character: Cait Sith.

Best Plot: FF7.

Most Obscure character: Quina.

Best Baddie: Sephiroth.

Worst (as in unbelievable) baddie: Seifer.

Best Location: The Northern Crater.

Worst Location: The Golden Saucer.

Best Soundtrack: FF7.

Worst Soundtrack: FF9.

Best Overall Game: FF7.

Worst Overall Game: FF9.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:38 PM

Best Summon: Madeen (FF9)
Worst Summon: Pheonix (FF7)
Best Magic attack: Ultima (FF7)
Worst Magic Attack: Any of the low grade magic attacks, Fire 1 or plain old Fire.

I CANNOT stress this enough, the drawing system out of FF8 was one of the worst systems ever!

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:38 PM

Worst Location: The Golden Saucer.

WHAT?! How can anyone who played 7 say that?

I CANNOT stress this enough, the drawing system out of FF8 was one of the worst systems ever!

Agreed. I like having unlimited magic, not using only a certain amount so my HP or attack power doesnt fall

The Depressed

03-27-2005, 03:39 PM

Best Character: Zell (FFVIII)
Worst Character: Rikku (FFX)
Best Plot: FFVIII
Most Obscure character: Cait Sith (FFVII) - 'Hi, I'm Cait Sith 2!' :p
Best Baddie: Kefka (FFVI)
Worst (as in unbelievable) baddie: Queen Brahne (FFIX)
Best Location: Balamb Garden (FFVIII) - That place, along with the music, is my 'home'.
Worst Location: Zoso (FFVI)
Best Soundtrack: FFVIII
Worst Soundtrack: FFIV
Best Overall Game: FFVIII
Worst Overall Game: FFI :p
Best magic system: Job system (FFV)
Worst magic system: Espers (FFVI)

Kingofdudes

03-27-2005, 03:39 PM

NP: Amarant's Theme

I think the FFIX OST was the first CD I ever bought

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:41 PM

Best Baddie: Kefka (FFVI)
Worst (as in unbelievable) baddie: Queen Brahne (FFIX)
)

Now, all who have played 6 may or may not agree with me by saying this but Brahne really was just a female Kefka. True, less deadly, but the similarities are there

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:43 PM

Best Boss: Garland (FF9)
Best, as in best idea for a boss: J-E-N-O-V-A (any form, particularly death)-(FF7)
Worst Boss:Materia Keeper (FF7)
Hardest Boss: Deathguise (FF9)
Easiest Boss: Silver Dragon or Earth Guardian, both from FF9.

Sorry to keep adding these, but I keep thinking of new categories. :(

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:44 PM

Best Summon: Buhamet ZERO (FF7)
Worst Summon: Pheonix (FF7)
Best Magic attack: Holy (FF9)

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:44 PM

Best Summon: Cactuar (FF8)
Worst Summon: Choco/Mog (FF7)
Best Magic attack: Ultima (FF7)
Worst Magic Attack: I never got on well with Bio.

Chrysostom

03-27-2005, 03:44 PM

WHAT?! How can anyone who played 7 say that?

With ease.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:45 PM

NP: Amarant's Theme

I think the FFIX OST was the first CD I ever bought
Armarant's theme is very good, possibly one of the best out of FF9.
I would kill for a copy of that soundtrack :p

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:45 PM

I'd agree with your magic systems too.
But on the topic of Quistis, at the end of the game when everyone was really high levels, she was 18 :p

yeah and she really only matter in the story at the beginning, same with selphie..and zell. Hell, there was very little character development in that game, aside from them remebering that they grew up together.

Also, the most unimaginative characters too, they were all 17 or 18, and had no outstanding traits. Unlike say, FF7, barret with the gun arm, red 13 and cait sith. Even Vincent. The characters in that game did develop alot more too. Each one had a place where they discovered themsevles and what they're fighting for.

ff8...none of that, it all focused on squall and rinoa

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:45 PM

Is the website with the mp3's on still down? :(

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:47 PM

Best Boss: Trance Kuja (FF9)
Best, as in best idea for a boss: J-E-N-O-V-A (any form, particularly death)-(FF7)
Worst Boss: Yu-Yevon (FF10)
Hardest Boss: Materia Keeper (dont ask, i just found him impossible) (FF7)
Easiest Boss: Plant Brain (FF9).
Best Music: Trance Kuja Battle (FF9)

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:48 PM

Hardest Boss: Materia Keeper (dont ask, i just found him impossible) (FF7)

He was immune to fire and gravity, I think Ice worked wonders against him.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:49 PM

Best music is a category I could never ever think to choose. Would make an interesting poll though.

I think i've already made most of the boss preferences clear here already, as in

Hardest Boss ever: Mother fecking PENANCE

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:49 PM

He was immune to fire and gravity, I think Ice worked wonders against him.

Worth it just for Trine though. And of course, to actually continue with the game

The Depressed

03-27-2005, 03:50 PM

Now, all who have played 6 may or may not agree with me by saying this but Brahne really was just a female Kefka. True, less deadly, but the similarities are there

But Brahne apologised to Dagger before she died which was a really stupid character change after what had happened on the previous two disks.

Now Kefka did everything he did just for the sheer hell of it. No reason, no necessity, he did it because he was insane. THAT is why Kefka is the best villian - he did it all because it excited him.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:51 PM

I remember the first time I played FFVII, Lost Number caused me so much crap that I restarted the whole game :(

Echleon

03-27-2005, 03:51 PM

He was immune to fire and gravity, I think Ice worked wonders against him.

Was he? Its been years since ive faced him, i was so happy when i finaly beat him though.

Now i think about it, the final boss in FFIX was completly random (Necron?). He had made no appearance or even mention in the game before.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:52 PM

Worth it just for Trine though. And of course, to actually continue with the game

Trine was great.

One of my fav. Enemy Skills.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:53 PM

Was he? Its been years since ive faced him, i was so happy when i finaly beat him though.

Now i think about it, the final boss in FFIX was completly random (Necron?). He had made no appearance or even mention in the game before.

He was a bit of a slut to beat.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:53 PM

I had a go at Ozma before, it would have been nice if you know you can't use pysical attacks on him, I took Steiner Armarant and Eiko, hoping for a pushover...uh oh..

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:53 PM

But Brahne apologised to Dagger before she died which was a really stupid character change after what had happened on the previous two disks.

Now Kefka did everything he did just for the sheer hell of it. No reason, no necessity, he did it because he was insane. THAT is why Kefka is the best villian - he did it all because it excited him.

Yeah, I wasnt going for complete comparison, but there are some

- The crazy temperament
- Lack of regard for anyone but themselves (till disk 1 end for Brahne)
- Overall look (FF6 for PSX had Kefka in the cut scenes, see that for some proof)
- Both used other people for their own purpose
- Destory most cities they come across

there are more, but its just something I think is really prominent. In fact, 6 and 9 in general have lots of similarities

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:54 PM

i have to say

best summon: Odin FF7
worst summon: Siren FF8
Best Boss: The Turks on disc 4 FF7
Worst Boss: same with worst baddie, that insta-boss at the end of IX

has anyone noticed that in most of the FF games, status attacks like sleep, silence, and poison are totall useless?
i mean, if you use them in random battles, the enemies will be dead in a few turns anyway, you kept them from doing a little damage.
and with boss battles, where statues effects would come in handy, most every boss is immune to status effects..

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:54 PM

The Guardians were easy in FF9.

The Depressed

03-27-2005, 03:55 PM

He was immune to fire ...

Ugh, that sucked. ESPECIALLY when you had Vincent use his first Limit Break on it. All that damage caused before was for nothing.

...

I still won though :D

The hardest boss by FAR is Penance. That is nigh on impossible even at high levels without Zanmato. I still haven't beaten it fair and square yet.

EDIT to AJIG - I still think the whole 'I'm sorry' thing completely ruined Brahnes credibility. If she'd have stayed like she had been before when she did leave, she'd have been up there with Kefka. That's why I think she's the worst villian.

Adam Jones is GOD

03-27-2005, 03:55 PM

has anyone noticed that in most of the FF games, status attacks like sleep, silence, and poison are totall useless?

Flash in 6 was very useful. It confuses pretty much 90% of enemies, and gives you a breather

Fat people are hard to kidnap

03-27-2005, 03:56 PM

I remember the first time I played FFVII, Lost Number caused me so much crap that I restarted the whole game :(

wow, and its a total optional boss too.

Chrysostom

03-27-2005, 03:57 PM

Best Boss: Sephiroth
Best, as in best idea for a boss: That thing in the Nibelheim Mansion, in the safe.
Worst Boss: The first one in FF7.
Hardest Boss: The 4 in a row at the end of FF8.
Easiest Boss: Rufus.
Best Music: Tough question. The music for the final fight in FF8. Or the music for the first Sephiroth. Or the Jenova theme.

Brew

03-27-2005, 03:58 PM

wow, and its a total optional boss too.

True, but Odin is pwnage.

IAJP

03-27-2005, 03:59 PM