The Black Mage Village (Final Fantasy)

[FlyingPaul_83]

yeah, some one retell FFVII. That one I didn't really piece together because of my absence of playing it.

[-:Vincent:-]

Ok well maybe it would take more than that...but perhaps someone can post a nice link to a place that does explain it (storyline).

[DeusExMachina]

hahaha...I always feel like an idiot (it's all in being a noob). But I'm really confused....someone should devote 30min of their time to tell the entire storyline of the FF games (be brief).
Which have you beaten? You tell us what you've beaten, and we can all summarize games that you haven't beaten.

/calls FFVI preemptively, in case Vincent hasn't beaten it.

[FlyingPaul_83]

For tactics?

the story in tactics is very confusing. I only have the meat of the story, not all the extra decieving and double crossing.

please don't do VI cause i haven't beaten that one :(

VII - X-2 are fine.

[MAthiAS]

Dibs on FFT (even though I still don't completely understand it, that story is so complex)

That's why Tactics has such GREAT replay value, I never remember the story's intricacies.

[-:Vincent:-]

eh.......let's see I havn't even played all of them. Beaten 6,7, and 8 heh...thats about it.

[DeusExMachina]

I might be able to help a bit with Tactics, because I'm in the middle of a game. However, that game is so confusing, it's really really hard to follow. Especially since the translating was pretty subpar in places.

[-:Vincent:-]

anyone know any good sites...?

[MAthiAS]

You will never understand Tactics fully the first time through. Its incredibly confusing like that, hard to tell who's using who and whatnot.

But Delita's always on top :cool:

[-:Vincent:-]

Mathias....you are a guy right?

[FlyingPaul_83]

yeah like every scene someone gets killed and you're like "was he important?", and then you find out he was vital for the hokuten and now the war will rage on only if this man is killed, then there will be no food supply. and these guys poison you at the beginning of battle.

those are just examples I chose , they don't go together. (or do they???)

so confusing yet so awesome.

[MAthiAS]

Mathias....you are a guy right?
Yeah.

Oh yeah and in Tactics there's all the extra books and things you get from Propositions and stuff, and the history stuffs, I never read all of it. (never read Germonic Scriptures either)

[-:Vincent:-]

yeah like every scene someone gets killed and you're like "was he important?", and then you find out he was vital for the hokuten and now the war will rage on only if this man is killed, then there will be no food supply. and these guys poison you at the beginning of battle.

I vote Paul doesn't talk about storyline cause he's already got me confused! :confused: lol...jk.

Did you guys noticed theres been a post every min sense 12:08.

[DeusExMachina]

I read the germonik scriptures, but they were very long and it was at like 2 in the morning, so I didn't understand it all too well.

Since you've beaten VI, I'm willing to do IV. Unless Red Barchetta wants to do IV, I'd imagine he could do a better job than me.

[MAthiAS]

No, because there wasn't one at 8:15.

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah.

Oh yeah and in Tactics there's all the extra books and things you get from Propositions and stuff, and the history stuffs, I never read all of it. (never read Germonic Scriptures either)

ok....just making sure there. we just screwed up the one post per minute!!! ****

[-:Vincent:-]

I read the germonik scriptures, but they were very long and it was at like 2 in the morning, so I didn't understand it all too well.

Since you've beaten VI, I'm willing to do IV. Unless Red Barchetta wants to do IV, I'd imagine he could do a better job than me.

explain all of them.....cause I don't really know storylines that well...

[DeusExMachina]

I'm confused. Everyone is in a different time zone.

[-:Vincent:-]

I'm confused. Everyone is in a different time zone.

definently me. it's 12:20 here, almost lunch time.

[MAthiAS]

Give me a quick rundown of FFVI, I'm getting all my characters before Kefka's tower and don't remember it all that well.

By the way, we're all on the MX time though.

[FlyingPaul_83]

You will never understand Tactics fully the first time through. Its incredibly confusing like that, hard to tell who's using who and whatnot.

But Delita's always on top :cool:


I'll keep that in mind.........is tactics like any other FF, where once you beat it, you can load right before?

[DeusExMachina]

Ok, I will summarize the story of FFVI. I'll get that up in a little bit (like, 15-30 minutes, I'd imagine).

[MAthiAS]

I'll keep that in mind.........is tactics like any other FF, where once you beat it, you can load right before?
What do you mean?

[-:Vincent:-]

Ok, I will summarize the story of FFVI. I'll get that up in a little bit (like, 15-30 minutes, I'd imagine).

Thanks....

Ok guys, I have an important question: what should I eat for lunch?

[MAthiAS]

Tostitos and homemade salsa :cool:

[-:Vincent:-]

maybe I should be more specific Kid's cuisne :D (I know, I know...no comment there really good). Or Healthy Choice

[FlyingPaul_83]

What do you mean?
how you can always load your game before the last fight and go do side quests and stuff. How you can't save after beating the final boss.

[-:Vincent:-]

Tostitos and homemade salsa :cool:

I hate mexican

[FlyingPaul_83]

I hate mexican


cheeseburger?

chicken nuggets?

[-:Vincent:-]

cheeseburger?

chicken nuggets?

chicken nuggets=good. Continue with the tactics thing...

[FlyingPaul_83]

Dammit, now i really wanna play tactics and finish it. After school tomorrow I'll play tactics for awhile.

whatr level do you reckon i be for the end?

[MAthiAS]

how you can always load your game before the last fight and go do side quests and stuff. How you can't save after beating the final boss.
Actually, its weird with Tactics. There is a series of battles before the final one, and you can save and manage troops between each battle. But make sure you don't save over your main/only file in between the battles, because you cannot get back out. You could even not be strong enough and be totally stuck.

The series is at Orbonne, so you know ahead of time. :thumb:

If you've done many side quests at all, you should be okay. If not, go back to your outside save file and level some more.

I'm off to watch That 70s Show... see you guys in an hour or so. :)

[FlyingPaul_83]

ok cool, yeah I almost fuked up my file when fighting .....................um..........................s hit....................a zodiac stone guy. it was just Ramza and him. I couldn't beat him, but then i finally did it. I thought I messed up my game, cause the most recent other file was like from chapter 2.

[-:Vincent:-]

ewww...70's show... Anyway, I feel really stupid for asking (as I usually do), but tactics is on gb right?

[FlyingPaul_83]

Playstation is the one we are talking about. I heard the GBA version sucks balls.

[-:Vincent:-]

heh....right. (feeling even more stupid).

[FlyingPaul_83]

nah it's cool, jut go out RIGHT NOW AND GO BUY THIS BITCH RIGHT NOW CAUSE THEY ARE ****ING HARD TO FIND MAN, then you can join our discussion, it's a really great game.

[-:Vincent:-]

nah it's cool, jut go out RIGHT NOW AND GO BUY THIS BITCH RIGHT NOW CAUSE THEY ARE ****ING HARD TO FIND MAN, then you can join our discussion, it's a really great game.

lol...your funny, i'm saving up for additions to my set though.

[FlyingPaul_83]

oh, yeah, I was looking at your profile, that's cool that you know drums.


holy crap, look at your posts per day :lol:

[-:Vincent:-]

oh, yeah, I was looking at your profile, that's cool that you know drums.

the main reason I joined mx, but I love final fantasy also :) .

[-:Vincent:-]

eh?? oh...yeah, I just joined a week or so ago....

[FlyingPaul_83]

the main reason I joined mx, but I love final fantasy also :) .


yeah i joined to talk about bands in R&M, but when i saw this part of the forum, I never left this place for about a week.

[-:Vincent:-]

lol....44 posts a day is a lot isn't it?

[FlyingPaul_83]

yeah, I get like 13 posts a day, so That shows how much of a life i Have. :lol:

If there is any reference to FF tactics in FFXII, that will make that game much cooler and more fun to me.

I like camoes and references...

[-:Vincent:-]

Well as soon as school starts back for me, my posts will go way down. Anyway, I'm off to go practice for a while...so it looks like your the only one left.

[MAthiAS]

This Tactics talk has me wanting to solo it... Who was it in this thread that did that?

[FlyingPaul_83]

:(

you're rising up the ranks in this thread. :thumb:


to MAthiAS: Dues is soloing it ATM.

[MAthiAS]

Why don't you people start hurting Kefka? He's getting pretty close to Vincent and Tifa.

[FlyingPaul_83]

pssh, I'll hurt whoever you want me too, as long as you bitches don't touch ramza.

[MAthiAS]

Alright, continue hurting Vincent then. That was more directed to the Vincent supporters.

[DeusExMachina]

FINAL FANTASY VI PLOT SUMMARY PART ONE: WORLD OF BALANCE

The story starts 1000 years before the game takes place. Magic is everywhere, thanks to people harnessing the powers of espers, beings of pure magical energy. However, there is a great war between the humans and the espers, the war of the magi, in which havoc is wrought and the world is left in ruin. The espers end up leaving the human world, and sealing themselves in their own world (which has a very awesome theme song).

Almost 1000 years later, the leader of a mighty empire, a man known as Gestahl, discovers a way to, on a limited scale, use magic, a power that has been lost to humans since the war of the magi. Could this be the start of another great war?

Now we're at the point where the game begins. An esper frozen in ice is found in a small coal mining town known as Narshe. Gestahl sends an attack force of three soldiers to confiscate and take the esper. These three are in magitek armor, which is armor that has been infused with magic. Two of the soldiers are ordinary men, Biggs and Wedge, (who are in most FF games, and are also pilots in Star Wars: A New Hope) but the third soldier is a woman without a name who is blessed with the power to use magic. The three easily dispatch the forces of Narshe, and go to the esper. The esper starts reacting strangely, and makes Biggs and Wedge disappear, presumably killing them. The mystery girl is knocked unconscious.

When the girl wakes up, we discover that her name is Terra, and that she was being controlled by a slave crown placed on her by Kefka, Gestahl's top goonie. Soldiers come and try to kidnap her, so she escapes with a "treasure hunter" by the name of Locke, who's a member of a resistance group called The Returners. Together, Terra and Locke escape to Figaro Castle (as well as with the help of Mog, who is one cool moogle). Locke and Terra meet Edgar, the king of Figaro Castle. He pretends to be loyal to the emperor, but is in fact a member of the Returners. Kefka shows up and demands that Edgar give him Terra. Edgar denies having Terra, so Kefka tries to torch Figaro Castle. But, Edgar is a tech freak, and Figaro Castle can submerge into the surrounding desert, which puts out the fire. Meanwhile, Edgar escapes with Terra and Locke and they head to the Returners hideout.

In the town of South Figaro, you run into a man known only as Shadow, who "owes alliegance to no one, and will do anything for money. He comes and goes like the wind..." He also, apparently, would "slit his grandmothers throat for a nickel." He's pretty cool, but plays no part in the story as of yet.

Moving on, the party travels over Mt. Kolts to get to the Returners hideout. There, you meet a man named Vargas, a martial arts master. He accuses you of trailing him on the orders of Sabin, who is Edgar's twin brother. You didn't, but you get in a fight with Vargas. He pwns your party, but then Sabin shows up and defeats Vargas. Apparently, Vargas' father was a martial arts expert who trained both Sabin and Vargas, and Vargas was jealous of Sabin because he thought Sabin was his father's favorite. Sabin then joins your party.

You also learn at some point (I actually think it was earlier, but don't remember for sure) that Sabin and Edgar flipped a coin to see who would be king, and Sabin won the coin flip. However, he fled from the position, choosing to be free over being king. The coin used has is heads on both sides, one side the head of Sabin and the other side the head of Edgar. This will come into play later.

Finally, you end up at the Returners hideout, where Terra agrees to help the leader, a man named Banon. They decide to go to Narshe to talk to the esper there and see if it can help them prevent the war or something, so they go on a raft. However, on the raft, disaster strikes in the forum of Ultros, an amusing (and annoying) octopus that you fight several times, this being the first. Your party gets split up into three groups, each with different scenarios.

SCENARIO 1:
Locke gets split up from the group, and ends up back in South Figaro. There he meets Celes, a woman who is a general for Emperor Gestahl's army. She was infused with magic at birth, and was given the ability to use magic unnaturally. However, Celes was arrested as a traitor, because she doesn't approve of the tactics used by the Empire. Locke takes Celes with him to Narshe. When asked why he is helping her, he says because she reminds him of someone (that someone being Rachel, the woman he loved, but who died).

SCENARIO 2:
Nothing particularly exciting here. Banon, Terra, and Edgar make their way to Narshe, and meet up with Arvis, a fellow Returner stationed in Narshe.

SCENARIO 3:
Sabin meets up with Shadow, who decides to travel with him. Meanwhile, in the kingdom of Doma, we see Leo, a general of Gestahl, setting up forces. Doma is opposed to Gestahl. Leo is ordered to leave, but tells Kefka (who is there) to not do anything bad. Kefka ignores him, and uses poison to kill everyone in Doma. The only survivor is Cyan, a knight of Doma. Cyan's family and lord die and so, being pissed off, he decides to get revenge on the empire. Sabin and Shadow show up around this time, and help Cyan. They escape by stealing magitek armor, and then ditch the armor and head to Narshe through a forest. This forest contains the obligatory ghost thing (seriously, every game has a ghost ship or a ghost train or a ghost whatever). In this case, it's a train. After finishing that off, they head to an area called the veldt, which is through some waterfall. On their way there, Shadow departs.

On the veldt, Sabin and Cyan meet a strange child named Gau, who was raised by monsters and learns from them. He joins the party. After a very roundabout journey, the three of them make it to Narshe, where a battle seems to be shaping up. Before the battle, Terra and Celes talk about how they both can use magic. Terra asks Celes if she's ever felt love, a very important thing to Terra. Then, everyone fights Kefka to stop him from reaching the Esper. He is defeated and flees. Then, Terra has a weird reaction to the esper, and flies off, changing form into what looks like an esper.

Your party then heads to the town of Zozo, where you meet the esper Ramuh. Apparently, espers can live in the human world as well as the esper world. Along the way you get Shadow back in your party. Ramuh has Terra with him, and says some cryptic stuff about her being different from an esper and other stuff. He then says that many espers are being drained of their powers in Magitek Factories set up by Gestahl, and that they might be able to help Terra recover if freed. You then learn that Getsahl is doing it wrong, and that the only way to truly get the powers of espers is to kill them and extract the power from the magicite, which is their remains. Then Ramuh turns into magicite, and you get your first esper.

The party heads off to free the espers in the magitek factories in order to help Terra. They split up, some of them going to beef up defenses in Narshe, some heading to the Magitek factories. Along the way, They meet a gambler named Setzer and Celes has to impersonate an opera singer. Setzer is infatuated with Celes, and agrees to a coin toss; heads, he helps them in battle and with his airship, tails, Celes marries him. Celes uses the double headed coin from Sabin and Edgar, and wins the bet.

The party goes to the magitek factory, where they meet Cid, a professor. There, Cid and Kefka learn about magicite, and the party gets more magicite, and then escapes. They revive Terra, who has a flashback. Apparently, a human named Madonna somehow made it to the esper world. There, she and an esper named Maduin fell in love, and had a child. That child is Terra. However, when Terra was two years old, Gestahl found away to break into the esper world, and kidnapped Terra and several espers.

After the flashback, the party head back to Narshe. They talk with people, and then head to the sealed gate of the esper world. Terra opens it, but Kefka is waiting. The espers all escape, and the imperial troops run off. Then the party head to the imperial palace.

At the palace, Cid says he's become a Returner, and Gestahl says he's had a change of heart and wants to help. He says that Kefka has been arrested for war crimes, and that the espers are on a rampage and must be stopped.

General Leo joins the party, and they split up to search for the espers. Shadow also joined the party. Terra, Shadow, and Locke go meet Strago, an old man who's village has a way to use magic without espers. His granddaughter, Relm, is with him. They join the party.

Everyone heads to the gathering place of the espers, a mountain with strong magical properties where it's said all espers originated. There Kefka shows up, and causes chaos, steals magicite, and mentions the three statues, which are statues of the goddesses of magic, from which all magic originates. Kefka kills Leo, and escapes to a floating continent with Gestahl.

Your party chases after them, but Shadow leaves when you reach the floating continent. There, you find your way to the statues. Kefka has found a way to channel the power of the statues, and kills Gestahl. He then rearranges the statues, which messes with the world. He then destroys the world as we know it, leaving it in chaotic ruins. The floating continent starts falling apart, and your party runs to the airship, trying to escape. They make it, with hopefully Shadow making it as well, and escape. However, the airship is destroyed and the party is split up all over the world.

Thus concludes part 1 of my FFVI story write-up. If you have any comments, critiques, etc. please let me know. A lot of the finer details I got from an online story guide, but most of the bulk was from memory, so it may be wrong. Hope this was enough info.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah I've got a comment, what are your rules for soloing FFT? Can I use a party for leveling or anything at all?

lol

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah I've got a comment, what are your rules for soloing FFT? Can I use a party for leveling or anything at all?

lol
No. The rule is, as soon as anyone joins your party, you kick them out. You may remove equipment, but they can't stay in. Guests must stay in, so they can help you in battles. There are also levelling caps if you run by the guides on gamefaqs, but I never got to high enough levels to exceed them.

[MAthiAS]

Alright, I'm going to try that, as I feel the need to replay Tactics.

Great job with that by the way, thorough and refreshing. Someone should report it for rep :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

wow...that was pretty good. :thumb: I want more :lol:

[MAthiAS]

Does anyone else have the Anthology version of FFVI? I've heard its supposed to have cutscenes, but mine has none.

[-:Vincent:-]

aahhh....Deus, you too??? I thought you were neutral. I think you guys are taking out Vincent cause thats my username... :angry:

[DeusExMachina]

wow...that was pretty good. :thumb: I want more :lol:
Well, I'll do part two of FFVI tomorrow. And, unless someone else has dibs on it, I can do FFIV later as well.

As for the H&H, I think I'm going to start being neutral on the Vincent conflict.

[FlyingPaul_83]

nice write up, you stopped like right before where i am at in the game :lol:

[MAthiAS]

Well, I'll do part two of FFVI tomorrow. And, unless someone else has dibs on it, I can do FFIV later as well.

As for the H&H, I think I'm going to start being neutral on the Vincent conflict.
To be neutral in that conflict is to basically let Vincent win.

Could I get an answer on my VI question?

[-:Vincent:-]

Well, I'll do part two of FFVI tomorrow. And, unless someone else has dibs on it, I can do FFIV later as well.

As for the H&H, I think I'm going to start being neutral on the Vincent conflict.

thats a great idea...go kill kefka! :thumb: Oh...and if you touch Vincent again I'll kill Terra from now on!!!!! :evil: heh...

[MAthiAS]

Good, I'm sick of this Tifa-Vincent thing. Nothing ever happens.

[-:Vincent:-]

To be neutral in that conflict is to basically let Vincent win.

Could I get an answer on my VI question?

shut up mathias...you little bastard. :lol: jk

[MAthiAS]

But seriously, its very neutral right now. Very little is happening in the H&H. Tifa and Vincent are duking it out, Kefka's creeping up on everyone, Ramza's got a cult keeping him alive, and that's it.

[DeusExMachina]

To be neutral in that conflict is to basically let Vincent win.

Could I get an answer on my VI question?
What VI question? I answered your FFT soloing question... was there another?

[Lionheart1827]

Does anyone else have the Anthology version of FFVI? I've heard its supposed to have cutscenes, but mine has none.

It should. The intro should have a FMV scene I believe, I'm not sure about other scenes since I dont have it. You can see some photos of it on http://www.rpgamer.com

[MAthiAS]

There's a FMV when you first start it up, I think. But none in the game.

[MAthiAS]

What VI question? I answered your FFT soloing question... was there another?
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9309455&postcount=6307

[-:Vincent:-]

But seriously, its very neutral right now. Very little is happening in the H&H. Tifa and Vincent are duking it out, Kefka's creeping up on everyone, Ramza's got a cult keeping him alive, and that's it.

yeah....i know, stupid ramza. We should team up against someone other than vincent, tifa, or terra. You pick the target and I'll start the killing, sound good?

[Lionheart1827]

There's a FMV when you first start it up, I think. But none in the game.

http://www.rpgamer.com/games/ff/ff6/ff6ss.html

those are the screenshots, if thats all of the stuff in the load up thing, I guess thats what I was thinking about. :thumb:

[FlyingPaul_83]

But seriously, its very neutral right now. Very little is happening in the H&H. Tifa and Vincent are duking it out, Kefka's creeping up on everyone, Ramza's got a cult keeping him alive, and that's it.

cult? I'm the only one healing Ramza, I wouldn't consider myself a cult :lol:

Lets kill kuja :evil:

[MAthiAS]

yeah....i know, stupid ramza. We should team up against someone other than vincent, tifa, or terra. You pick the target and I'll start the killing, sound good?
Kefka. That bastard will never laugh again.

[DeusExMachina]

I don't have it, but I had a friend who did, and apparently there are cut scenes, just not many.

[MAthiAS]

I didn't get any of those cutscenes :upset:

Wait, maybe they're in the bonus section.

[FlyingPaul_83]

ok so Kefka then Kuja, just don't mess with Ramza. I'm stuggling trying to keep him alive.

[DeusExMachina]

Kefka and Kuja? Damn. Those are my favorite FF villains. Well, I guess if it saves Terra, I might make some sacrifices...

[MAthiAS]

Ramza's the only rep from FFT, my second favorite FF game. I'm cool with him living.

But Delita, Mustadio > Ramza.

I think we need to bring Vincent down to Terra and Tifa though Deus.

[DeusExMachina]

Sounds good. Let's cut Vincent down a bit.

[MAthiAS]

I think we conceived that idea a while ago, but it brought us to where we are now. Oh well, I'm down for it again.

I really don't see what's so great about Kefka, he's really evil for no real reason.

[FlyingPaul_83]

well, I've done my damage

good night MAthiAS and DuesExMachina :wave:

The top 3 posters haha goodnight.

I'll hurt kefka again right before I leave for school.

[-:Vincent:-]

..................that hurts..................but fine, so we go for kefka, then kuja?

[MAthiAS]

Peace. Man you remind me that school will suck majorly... :upset:

Least I got 2 concerts and a trip to the west coast before then. :)

[DeusExMachina]

Goodnight.

I like Kefka because he's just so gleefully evil. It's just cool. I don't really know why.

[MAthiAS]

I liked Sephiroth because he seemed to have more reason for being evil.

I think we should take out Kefka, then Vivi, then Kuja.

[-:Vincent:-]

I liked Sephiroth because he seemed to have more reason for being evil.

I think we should take out Kefka, then Vivi, then Kuja.

ok........

[DeusExMachina]

I can agree to two of those, but not all three. Spare Vivi for a bit, perhaps?

[MAthiAS]

I guess, but he'll be the one to go after that. Then it will only be the best FFs left.

[-:Vincent:-]

yeah.....so nobody hurt vincent, terra, or tifa for now. Let's kill Kefka

[MAthiAS]

yeah.....so nobody hurt terra or tifa for now. Let's kill Kefka
Yeah okay.

[DeusExMachina]

Ok, fair enough, I suppose.

[MAthiAS]

:D .

[-:Vincent:-]

One last thing, can we still heal our fav characters?

[MAthiAS]

Didn't catch that one huh?

[-:Vincent:-]

Didn't catch that one huh?

eh...no...what?? :confused:

[MAthiAS]

My post up above. Anyway, Tifa and Vincent are tied now. So I'm good.

[-:Vincent:-]

I don't see it...

[DeusExMachina]

Ideally, it will come down to Tifa, Vincent, and Terra. From there, the forum will be split up into FFVII fans and FFVI fans. Since there are two FFVII characters, the FFVII fans will be divided, but the FFVI fans will be united, thus securing a victory for Terra.

[Lionheart1827]

Ideally, it will come down to Tifa, Vincent, and Terra. From there, the forum will be split up into FFVII fans and FFVI fans. Since there are two FFVII characters, the FFVII fans will be divided, but the FFVI fans will be united, thus securing a victory for Terra.


FFVI fans unite! :thumb:

Terra all the way!

[MAthiAS]

Ideally, it will come down to Tifa, Vincent, and Terra. From there, the forum will be split up into FFVII fans and FFVI fans. Since there are two FFVII characters, the FFVII fans will be divided, but the FFVI fans will be united, thus securing a victory for Terra.
But I'm willing to bet there are more FFVII fans than FFVI fans. Twice as many? I don't know.

And I'm leaving on Thursday anyway :upset:

Maybe I'll whore myself to other threads I frequent...

[-:Vincent:-]

Ideally, it will come down to Tifa, Vincent, and Terra. From there, the forum will be split up into FFVII fans and FFVI fans. Since there are two FFVII characters, the FFVII fans will be divided, but the FFVI fans will be united, thus securing a victory for Terra.

uh.........no. And nobody answered my question! (can we still heal our favorite characters; vincent, terra, tifa?)

[MAthiAS]

But I'm willing to bet there are more FFVII fans than FFVI fans. Twice as many? I don't know.

And I'm leaving on Thursday anyway :upset:

Maybe I'll whore myself to other threads I frequent...
I hate how people never see the last posts on pages. So I'm quoting myself for attention.

[-:Vincent:-]

I hate how people never see the last posts on pages. So I'm quoting myself for attention.

hmmm.....maybe i'm just really slow and stupid but, how does that answer my question?

[MAthiAS]

You're not, because it doesn't.

Yeah, I don't know, what's Deus say about that?

[DeusExMachina]

Where you leaving to?

Vincent, you may heal whoever you'd like, and hurt whoever you'd like. But if you break the agreement, Vincent will be gang raped. Come to think of it, I think Vincent should be busted up anyways, but I probably won't do it if people don't support it.

Lionheart has the right idea. Go Terra!

[-:Vincent:-]

Where you leaving to?

Vincent, you may heal whoever you'd like, and hurt whoever you'd like. But if you break the agreement, Vincent will be gang raped. Come to think of it, I think Vincent should be busted up anyways, but I probably won't do it if people don't support it.

Lionheart has the right idea. Go Terra!

pssh....yeah I know that, but what if I heal vincent?? will you still hurt him? I know were all going for kefka, but who are we gonna heal??? our own characters? or is that against the agreement? I like to ask questions...

[MAthiAS]

Vincent, you may heal whoever you'd like, and hurt whoever you'd like. But if you break the agreement, Vincent will be gang raped. Come to think of it, I think Vincent should be busted up anyways, but I probably won't do it if people don't support it.
I've supported it since Tifa hit puberty.
Where you leaving to?
San Francisco til Tuesday, my brother lives there.

[-:Vincent:-]

You're not, because it doesn't.

Yeah, I don't know, what's Deus say about that?

Actually I am :D

[MAthiAS]

So Tifa will probably die without me posting :upset: :upset:

[-:Vincent:-]

I've supported it since Tifa hit puberty.

lol....

[-:Vincent:-]

So Tifa will probably die without me posting :upset: :upset:

awww....thats too bad... :upset:

[DeusExMachina]

So Tifa will probably die without me posting :upset: :upset:
I'll save Tifa while you're gone.

[-:Vincent:-]

I'll save Tifa while you're gone.

no you won't....

[MAthiAS]

:-* x 7777

[-:Vincent:-]

*sigh*

[DeusExMachina]

lol. I will, seriously. It wouldn't be fair to kick Tifa when she's down with no one to protect her.

[-:Vincent:-]

lol. I will, seriously. It wouldn't be fair to kick Tifa when she's down with no one to protect her.

for me it would be :)

[MAthiAS]

That's respectable. I'll try and get RCA to come back to this thread too, he seems like a breast man.

[-:Vincent:-]

That's respectable. I'll try and get RCA to come back to this thread too, he seems like a breast man.

lol...whatever

[DeusExMachina]

Rca?

[MAthiAS]

Used to be Dragunov, he used to post here a bit, don't know if you remember him... He's got like 50 posts in this thread. He's a thrash thread regular if you check R&M.

[-:Vincent:-]

Final Fantasy series would be perfect if they put some A7X music in it....

[DeusExMachina]

I'm in R&M pretty regularly, but I'm more in the classic rock crowd, not the metal crowd.

[MAthiAS]

If by perfect you mean ruined or by A7X you mean Dragonforce, then okay.
I'm in R&M pretty regularly, but I'm more in the classic rock crowd, not the metal crowd.
I see. I only regular a few threads over there... R&M is mostly official threads unfortunately...

[-:Vincent:-]

If by perfect you mean ruined or by A7X you mean Dragonforce, then okay.

we seem to disagree on everything.....do you play an instrument?

[MAthiAS]

Yeah.

[-:Vincent:-]

I'm in R&M pretty regularly, but I'm more in the classic rock crowd, not the metal crowd.

I know what your thinking....but no......The Beatles suck.

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah.

and what would that be?

[MAthiAS]

Guitar, you?

[DeusExMachina]

I used to regular R&M a ton, but lately I've been spending most of my time in the pit. I still have the highest post count in the Pink Floyd thread by about 100 posts.

MAthiAS, you play guitar, right?

I don't really know A7X or Dragonforce at all. Except that Dragonforce is powermetal, I think.

[-:Vincent:-]

Guitar, you?

drums...

[DeusExMachina]

I know what your thinking....but no......The Beatles suck.
You lose! Good DAY sir!

[-:Vincent:-]

I used to regular R&M a ton, but lately I've been spending most of my time in the pit. I still have the highest post count in the Pink Floyd thread by about 100 posts.

MAthiAS, you play guitar, right?

I don't really know A7X or Dragonforce at all. Except that Dragonforce is powermetal, I think.

Go pick up Avenged Sevenfold: Waking the Fallen, thats their best CD you won't be disappointed.

[Lionheart1827]

You lose! Good DAY sir!

Willy Wonka'D

I play guitar. Blind Guardian songs can go good with FF, especially the older ones. :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

You lose! Good DAY sir!

hahaha....the beatles have no talent, a bunch of british dudes with bad teeth who sing about their love life (or what they wish their love life could be...) :lol:

[MAthiAS]

I used to regular R&M a ton, but lately I've been spending most of my time in the pit. I still have the highest post count in the Pink Floyd thread by about 100 posts.

MAthiAS, you play guitar, right?

I don't really know A7X or Dragonforce at all. Except that Dragonforce is powermetal, I think.
I browse the Pit once in a while, most of the threads suck though and its mostly elitists/vets and noobs. At least I find.

Yep.

A7X is metalcore... can't stand it... Dragonforce is power metal yes, they list video game music as a main influence. I love em.

[DeusExMachina]

I dunno... you think The Beatles suck. I think our music tastes may just be too different for reconciliation.

Edit: To Vincent.

[MAthiAS]

hahaha....the beatles have no talent, a bunch of british dudes with bad teeth who sing about their love life (or what they wish their love life could be...) :lol:
Hahahahahahhahahhahahha THE DOOR IS THAT WAY

/points to door

[Lionheart1827]

Dragonforce is power metal yes, they list video game music as a main influence. I love em.

Me too. I love how that asian guy has such long hair. :thumb:

A lot of people view them as cheese, but I really like them. I was kind of a closet power metal fan but recently I've broke out and said "why should I care what people think about the music I listen to."

Soldiers of the Wasteland \m/

[-:Vincent:-]

I dunno... you think The Beatles suck. I think our music tastes may just be too different for reconciliation.

Edit: To Vincent.

Yes I do....and Yes they do. I like bands that actually have talent The Beatles don't even know what that is. The singing is horrible...the lyrics are the same....I wouldn't know about the guitar (talent wise) but they don't sound very good...and the drums.....ewwww....the drums SUCK. Sure you can say they started the whole "rock n roll" stage...but still, no talent.

[MAthiAS]

Me too. I love how that asian guy has such long hair. :thumb:

A lot of people view them as cheese, but I really like them. I was kind of a closet power metal fan but recently I've broke out and said "why should I care what people think about the music I listen to."

Soldiers of the Wasteland \m/
Yeah, its cheesey, so, its part of the appeal. Its fun, its cool, they could outshred most of us, yeah.

[DeusExMachina]

Willy Wonka'D

I play guitar. Blind Guardian songs can go good with FF, especially the older ones. :thumb:
The old Willy Wonka = awesome. Gene Wilder >>>>>> Johnny Depp.

I like Blind Guardian. Haven't heard much, but I like it.

Vincent, don't insult the Beatles! It makes me hurt on the inside. You poor misguided youth... what is the world coming to?

[-:Vincent:-]

I don't care about what people think of the music I listen to. But there's just no way I could like the Beatles...

[-:Vincent:-]

The old Willy Wonka = awesome. Gene Wilder >>>>>> Johnny Depp.

I like Blind Guardian. Haven't heard much, but I like it.

Vincent, don't insult the Beatles! It makes me hurt on the inside. You poor misguided youth... what is the world coming to?

ok....I'll stop......................for now :naughty:

[Lionheart1827]

The old Willy Wonka = awesome. Gene Wilder >>>>>> Johnny Depp.

I like Blind Guardian. Haven't heard much, but I like it.

Vincent, don't insult the Beatles! It makes me hurt on the inside. You poor misguided youth... what is the world coming to?

I love the original Willy Wonka. I just still cant believe the boat scene was included in that movie. I was horrified when I was a kid.

Look for a song by Blind Guardian called Bright Eyes and Into the Storm. Those are some great songs. :thumb:

[MAthiAS]

Yes I do....and Yes they do. I like bands that actually have talent The Beatles don't even know what that is. The singing is horrible...the lyrics are the same....I wouldn't know about the guitar (talent wise) but they don't sound very good...and the drums.....ewwww....the drums SUCK. Sure you can say they started the whole "rock n roll" stage...but still, no talent.
Songwriting and composition is talent my friend. Yes, Ringo was poor. No, the guitars aren't that technical (but I assure you there's much more theory behind them than A7X), the singing is great, the vocal melodies own, and they are and always will be the biggest band ever, and have done more for music than pretty much anyone. For that alone, you should at least respect them.

IMO their early stuff wasn't great, but their later stuff is 100% genius.

[DeusExMachina]

I don't care about what people think of the music I listen to. But there's just no way I could like the Beatles...
Fair enough. But be civil on this forum. People don't take too kindly to being told that their favorite bands suck. And if your only basis for whether music is "good" or "bad" is talent, then you've got some head straightening to do. How well a band can play shouldn't factor into how much you like them. It's how much you like the music. Against Me! is one of the greatest punk bands ever, (in my opinion) and plenty of people agree, and they're all awful at their instruments, and can't sing at all.

[MAthiAS]

Pretty much every punk band is poor at their instruments... but I still love punk :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

Songwriting and composition is talent my friend. Yes, Ringo was poor. No, the guitars aren't that technical (but I assure you there's much more theory behind them than A7X), the singing is great, the vocal melodies own, and they are and always will be the biggest band ever, and have done more for music than pretty much anyone. For that alone, you should at least respect them.

IMO their early stuff wasn't great, but their later stuff is 100% genius.

uhh...i'm trying to be nice....but you guys can at least stop talking about how good they are. (no their lyrics suck....) I don't care if you think A7X sucks either....but please, don't tell me the beatles have more talent them....drums are infinite x better. And so is the guitar (i'm reffering to talent by the way).

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah, punk is just so danm catchy and fun.

Lionheart, I know what you mean about the boat scene. But I love it. I just watched that movie for the umpteenth time today... pure genius.

[-:Vincent:-]

Pretty much every punk band is poor at their instruments... but I still love punk :thumb:

I don't like Blink 182....but you gotta hand it to travis, he does have awesome drums (stupid ringo...)

[-:Vincent:-]

Hey Deus, how about I pay you to buy an A7X CD?? eh?? thats how good they are...

[MAthiAS]

uhh...i'm trying to be nice....but you guys can at least stop talking about how good they are. (no their lyrics suck....) I don't care if you think A7X sucks either....but plese, don't tell me the beatles have more talent them....drums are infinite x better. And so is the guitar (i'm reffering to talent by the way).
I can't make you realize this, but you should. Composition skill > Technical skill.

Just hope you don't go saying classical music sucks...
Yeah, punk is just so danm catchy and fun.
I like a lot of punk that isn't catchy or fun... but yeah, its refreshing to listen to NOFX after a day of headbanging to Vader.
I don't like Blink 182....but you gotta hand it to travis, he does have awesome drums (stupid ringo...)
Blink are not punk. Carve that into your hand.

[Lionheart1827]

Lionheart, I know what you mean about the boat scene. But I love it. I just watched that movie for the umpteenth time today... pure genius.

"BUT THE ROWERS KEEP ON ROWING! AND THERE SHOWING NO SIGNS OF STOPPING!!!!!! WHOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!"

/scarred 4 lyfe :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

Ok.....go here: http://www.purevolume.com/avengedsevenfold Listen to chapter four...the intro is awesome

They consider themselves punk....whatever my point was travis has very creative drums

[MAthiAS]

They consider themselves punk....whatever my point was travis has very creative drums
Meh, the only band where drums single handedly make the music interesting is Cryptopsy.

So... who likes Vivaldi?

[DeusExMachina]

Blink 182 isn't punk... that's pop-punk crap.

And since you keep talking about Ringo, I need to tell you my findings. I just looked up some A7X tabs, and found (as I expected) that the guitar playing for the rhythm is nothing but power chords. And the solos, while I'm sure they're very fast, look pretty simplistic. The theory employed in the Beatles guitar playing, particularly in the latter part of their career, far surpasses what (admittedly small) glimpse of A7X I've seen.

Also, while lyrics are admittedly subjective, saying that all the songs have the same lyrics about love life is just displaying ignorance.

[MAthiAS]

I really don't see how someone can seriously bash a band's lyrics, and recommend a metalcore band next.

[-:Vincent:-]

Blink 182 isn't punk... that's pop-punk crap.

And since you keep talking about Ringo, I need to tell you my findings. I just looked up some A7X tabs, and found (as I expected) that the guitar playing for the rhythm is nothing but power chords. And the solos, while I'm sure they're very fast, look pretty simplistic. The theory employed in the Beatles guitar playing, particularly in the latter part of their career, far surpasses what (admittedly small) glimpse of A7X I've seen.

Also, while lyrics are admittedly subjective, saying that all the songs have the same lyrics about love life is just displaying ignorance.

well I don't care about guitars, I'm a drummer, and in no way could the beatles guitar be complicated. I mean some of them maybe but...not very many. and A7X got some of their lyrics straight from the Bible (of course modified).

[DeusExMachina]

"BUT THE ROWERS KEEP ON ROWING! AND THERE SHOWING NO SIGNS OF STOPPING!!!!!! WHOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!"

/scarred 4 lyfe :thumb:
There's no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
There's no knowing where we're rowing
Or which way the river's flowing
Is it raining? Is it snowing? Is a hurricane a-blowing?
Not a speck of light is showing
So the danger must be growing
Are the fires of hell a-glowing? Is the grisly reaper mowing?
Yes, the danger must be growing
'Cause the rowers keep on rowing
And they're certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing!!

I like Vivaldi. Vivaldi pwns. Not a huge fan of Paganini though. He's just like prehistoric wankage.

[-:Vincent:-]

I really don't see how someone can seriously bash a band's lyrics, and recommend a metalcore band next.

I wish people would stop assuming that all metal bands just scream about how much they hate the world, and are really shallow. A7X isn't, besides look at the beatles....I've heard them sing about 2 subjects ONLY: love (which is about all their songs) and drugs

[MAthiAS]

well I don't care about guitars, I'm a drummer, and in no way could the beatles guitar be complicated. I mean some of them maybe but...not very many. and A7X got some of their lyrics straight from the Bible (of course modified).
The Beatles' guitar involved a good amount of theory though, so the composition is indeed somewhat complex. You want complex guitar though, go listen to Racer X.
I wish people would stop assuming that all metal bands just scream about how much they hate the world, and are really shallow. A7X isn't, besides look at the beatles....I've heard them sing about 2 subjects ONLY: love (which is about all their songs) and drugs
Lol, I never assumed that. I listen to metal more than anything, and I would never say that. Metalcore on the other hand...
I like Vivaldi. Vivaldi pwns. Not a huge fan of Paganini though. He's just like prehistoric wankage.
He was probably the best wanker ever though. I like his stuff, but not as much as other classical composers.

[DeusExMachina]

If you want complex guitar, listen to John McLaughlin. Or solo Joe Pass. Pass played bass, rhythm, lead, and harmony, all on one guitar.

[MAthiAS]

I'll admit that I don't like much jazz. I respect it for its complexity, but I honestly don't enjoy it. And I wouldn't bash it, but I'd rather listen to classical or metal.l

[-:Vincent:-]

So Deus did you listen to Chapter four yet?

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of classical, and I'm starting to get more into metal. But, I've always loved jazz, ever since piano lessons when I was 8 or 9. Jazz guitar is just so amazing. As fast as any shred guitarist, but constantly adapting to chord and key changes.

[MAthiAS]

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of classical, and I'm starting to get more into metal. But, I've always loved jazz, ever since piano lessons when I was 8 or 9. Jazz guitar is just so amazing. As fast as any shred guitarist, but constantly adapting to chord and key changes.
Yeah, I respect it. Its complex as hell, but for some reason I can't get into it.

What metal you into Deus?

[-:Vincent:-]

Deus is into A7X :thumb:

[DeusExMachina]

I just listened to Chapter Four. I dunno... the drumming in the intro was very impressive, but it's just not my thing.

For metal, I'm into older stuff like Black Sabbath and all, but I'm also getting into more technical metal, Symphony X and Dream Theater and the like. I just can't stand the vocals from Symphony X or Dream Theater.

[-:Vincent:-]

I just listened to Chapter Four. I dunno... the drumming in the intro was very impressive, but it's just not my thing.

For metal, I'm into older stuff like Black Sabbath and all, but I'm also getting into more technical metal, Symphony X and Dream Theater and the like. I just can't stand the vocals from Symphony X or Dream Theater.

Well I'm glad you enjoyed the Revrend's drumming :) Ringo isn't that bad....

[Lionheart1827]

I just listened to Chapter Four. I dunno... the drumming in the intro was very impressive, but it's just not my thing.

For metal, I'm into older stuff like Black Sabbath and all, but I'm also getting into more technical metal, Symphony X and Dream Theater and the like. I just can't stand the vocals from Symphony X or Dream Theater.

I couldnt stand DT at first, so i went to Symph X. Took me a long time to finally get into DT. Symphony X I still like better. The vocals are better, imo. :thumb:

Im going to Gigantour in about 11 hours. 2nd time I'm gonna see Symph X and DT live. :thumb:

[-:Vincent:-]

Black Sabath is good, just overrated. I take it you like Iron Maiden then?

To understand the lyrics to Chapter Four, you should read Genisis Chapter four (thus the name). EVERYONE IN HERE SHOULD GO READ THE BIBLE, IT'LL BE GOOD FOR YOU! :lol:

[MAthiAS]

Check out some instrumental stuff then... I'm on such a Racer X kick right now. I'm addicted to Scarified and YRO. And YRO has an excerpt from a Pagannini piece in it too.

Listening to Chapter Four now... Intro was average I guess, honestly the drums don't impress me at all. Catchy chorus, boring verse, standard guitar harmony, yeah okay, nothing special.

Black Sabath is good, just overrated. I take it you like Iron Maiden then?
There's something I agree with. Black Sabbath are very overrated IMO. Maiden pwn them tenfold.

[-:Vincent:-]

yes the drums are average...but I don't think you understood that when you said it (after all your not the one who's the drummer). But that wasn't his best song...you should hear some of the ride beats he can do...

[MAthiAS]

Okay, recommend me one then.

[DeusExMachina]

I'll check out Racer X.

If you all just want to here some incredible instrumental talent, I have some amazing classical recordings. Yefim Bronfman doing Rachmaninov's third piano concerto... wow.

[MAthiAS]

You could upload that for me... if you've got any Chopin and Bach, could you get me some of that too? Always looking for more classical...

[-:Vincent:-]

Second Heartbeat has a really fast ride beat at around 0:20 seconds....but you might dismiss it as OK. You have to be a drummer to understand how hard/easy things are.

[MAthiAS]

Downloading it now.

[DeusExMachina]

You could upload that for me... if you've got any Chopin and Bach, could you get me some of that too? Always looking for more classical...
Sure thing. I'm going to hit the sack right now, but I'll upload some classical stuff tomorrow. Goodnight all :wave:

[MAthiAS]

Peace man.

[-Listy-]

hahaha....the beatles have no talent, a bunch of british dudes with bad teeth who sing about their love life (or what they wish their love life could be...) :lol:
...NO.



/late.

[-:Vincent:-]

Reminissions also has some nice drums on the intro...but everyone says the guitar on unholy confessions is the best. It sounds like it would be easy (then again I'm no guitarist) but it sounds good also.

[-:Vincent:-]

...NO.



/late.

wow....even listy.

[MAthiAS]

Why does it surprise you?

[-:Vincent:-]

Because the Beatles suck...

[DeusExMachina]

wow....even listy.
I agree with MAthiAS, why are you surprised? You should understand, you are in a definite minority when saying that The Beatles suck.

Ok, I'm definitely off now. Cheers all.

[-:Vincent:-]

I agree with MAthiAS, why are you surprised? You should understand, you are in a definite minority when saying that The Beatles suck.

Ok, I'm definitely off now. Cheers all.

lol....i don't care, its good to be different :thumb: And I like to say (type) "The Beatles suck!" it's just reall fun, cause then I feel good, and I get to piss you all off!!!

[MAthiAS]

I agree with MAthiAS, why are you surprised? You should understand, you are in a definite minority when saying that The Beatles suck.
Yeah, regardless of your opinion, why does it surprise you that people on a musicians forum no less like the most popular and influential band in history?

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah, regardless of your opinion, why does it surprise you that people on a musicians forum no less like the most popular and influential band in history?

have you downloaded it yet?

[MAthiAS]

Yeah I'm listening now. The drums are pretty low in the mix, but I suppose they're alright. They're no Flo Mounier though.

Out of curiosity, have you ever listened to Cryptopsy or Mithras?

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah I'm listening now. The drums are pretty low in the mix, but I suppose they're alright. They're no Flo Mounier though.

Out of curiosity, have you ever listened to Cryptopsy or Mithras?

no.

[MAthiAS]

Okay, I'll just say that they changed my definition of fast drumming...

[-:Vincent:-]

right...fast drumming, that sounds horrible. or maybe it sounds good, just cause he's going fast and you can tell what he's doing.

[MAthiAS]

I listened to A7X, can I upload you something?

[-:Vincent:-]

sure...I just listened to some of crytopsy and the drums are kind of fast...but the singer, ewww....just dont like it. And the drums aren't really that hard....I mean yeah, he's playing it fast, but its not complicated.

[MAthiAS]

Morbid Angel - Opening of the Gates
hxxp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=11X53ROXDV39S2L08NHJ92RV5Y
Cryptopsy - Orgiastic Disembowelment
hxxp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=34SD14A1CMKD72KTW6PBMSIPH6

And I felt the need to upload Iced Earth - Wolf for you.
hxxp://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1TR4PJZ8TXWWZ0SBI58JUA2GYJ

Since you seem to be obsessed with complicated drums, I'm surprised you're not a Tool fanboy...

[-:Vincent:-]

ok...downloading the first one.

[-:Vincent:-]

I'm not obsessed, but of course thats what I look for in a song (sense I play drums). I like complicated drums, so I can learn from them

[-:Vincent:-]

The drums (for morbid angel) aren't that great....there electronic for the most part....(maybe drum machine....) it sounds fast cause he's using double bass through most of the song, but there are no impressive solo's or anything...

[MAthiAS]

You like Meshuggah at all? Their drums and rhythms in general are quite complex... Dillinger too.

[-:Vincent:-]

The crytopsy is pretty good (but I don't like the vocals).

[-:Vincent:-]

You like Meshuggah at all? Their drums and rhythms in general are quite complex... Dillinger too.

some....havn't heard much. I used to be complete punk, and then I started listening to metal, so I havn't found my favorite bands yet.

[MAthiAS]

Understandable.

Yeah, I thought of Meshuggah now, listening to some now, very cool stuff.

What punk are/were you into?

[-:Vincent:-]

So far I really like the beat at the begenning of 'wolf', its very creative.

[-:Vincent:-]

Understandable.

Yeah, I thought of Meshuggah now, listening to some now, very cool stuff.

What punk are/were you into?

Well...this is very embarrsing but my first music influences came when I was 11...and I liked good charlotte :lol: But as of a few months ago, a pretty wide varitey (some of it was popish, like blink). But I used to be into Bad religion and things of that sort

[MAthiAS]

Eh its okay, GC are catchy, easy to like at 11.

I love punk... Bad Religion, Dead Kennedys, Rise Against, Social Distortion, Sick of it All, Black Flag, Bad Brains... great stuff.

[-:Vincent:-]

Eh its okay, GC are catchy, easy to like at 11.

I love punk... Bad Religion, Dead Kennedys, Rise Against, Social Distortion, Sick of it All, Black Flag, Bad Brains... great stuff.

Yeah I like Black Flag and Bad brains as well...

[MAthiAS]

You like Rush?

[-:Vincent:-]

You like Rush?

Yeah, but sometimes the vocals get annoying. And I still think Neil is overrated (hes good though, don't get me wrong).

[MAthiAS]

I love Geddy's vocals... hehe.

[-:Vincent:-]

I just realized...this has nothing to do with FF. hehe. But anyways...i'm gonna go do some hw. later

[MAthiAS]

Peace.

[-:Vincent:-]

Well that was productive :thumb: ...I did about 10min of hw, and then played drums the rest of the time :lol:. I'm about to go to dinner anyway, I dont know why I'm making this post.

[MAthiAS]

I love not being in school. You live in Japan right?

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah, I havn't started school, but its summer work. (start school in 7 days)

[MAthiAS]

This is random, but have you ever played a Jackson Stars guitar? I know they're Japan only...

[-:Vincent:-]

nah...I don't play guitar.

[MAthiAS]

Ah, okay. I was thinking of ordering one, because they're way cheaper over there for a Jackson Stars custom than a Jackson custom here.

[-:Vincent:-]

Do you have a band?

[MAthiAS]

Not currently. You?

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah...were working on a demo currently.

[MAthiAS]

Cool, I wish I could find some serious musicians into my music... :(

[-:Vincent:-]

took me a while, was in two other bands before, but none of them were that good or actually wanted to play music and make demo's and stuff...

[-:Vincent:-]

Anyway, I'm off to dinner; all be back as soon as its 7:14, ready to support Vincent all the way :thumb: (maybe a little before 7:14)

[MAthiAS]

Later man, I'll probably go to sleep in a few. Peace.

[Happy]

Sooo, anyone here know where to go after beating Goldor in FFIII?

[-:Vincent:-]

Sooo, anyone here know where to go after beating Goldor in FFIII?

eh....no, but thanks for supporting vincent :thumb:

[Arucard]

Someone told me to come tell you how good Avenged Sevenfold are.

Thread : Avenged Sevenfold are good.

[Adam Jones is GOD]

Dont wanna be the bad guy here, but you guys should consider using AIM or MSN a bit more.

Unless you're discussing The Black Mages that is :)

[red barchetta]

Dont wanna be the bad guy here, but you guys should consider using AIM or MSN a bit more.

Unless you're discussing The Black Mages that is :)
i agree. theres too much non-ff related talk going on here.

[-:Vincent:-]

I agree....

[-:Vincent:-]

So red barchetta, do you think they'll remake FFVII?

[red barchetta]

theres so much random talk here, that this thread is approaching 300 pages even though we reached 200 pages only a few days ago.

and this thread has grown by 13 pages since my last visit.



the remake... it will be cool if they do it, but im not really that bothered.all i want is that i dont want Square to ruin FF7.

i'm more bothered about The Black Mages EVER touring the UK.

[-:Vincent:-]

theres so much random talk here, that this thread is approaching 300 pages even though we reached 200 pages only a few days ago.

and this thread has grown by 13 pages since my last visit.

yeah it's all Deus and Mathias's faults. I told them the Beatles sucked but they just wouldn't listen! :lol: jk....their not that bad....but back to FF

[red barchetta]

thats understandable... Deux is a big Beatles fan.

[-:Vincent:-]

Yeah, I wouldn't want them to ruin it...I'm just talkin about redoing the graphics (like really good). That would be awesome! < referring to the remake of FF7

[-:Vincent:-]

hmmm....what else is there about FF that we havn't already covered in this thread??

[red barchetta]

if they change nothing else, then it'll be fine.

but if they change anything else (eg. changing the battle style from ATB to CTB like in FFX), i'll go Sephiroth on their asses

[-:Vincent:-]

if they change nothing else, then it'll be fine.

but if they change anything else (eg. changing the battle style from ATB to CTB like in FFX), i'll go Sephiroth on their asses

:lol: sephiroth on there asses thats funny...

[red barchetta]

right, i've finished reading the posts from the 13 pages that i missed.

planning an attack on Kefka and Kuja?! BASTARDS. killing the greatest 'K' characters ever. that includes Kain too.

[andyhainey]

i no wat we havent covered in this thread, completion time, i completed ff8 in 3 days

[Happy]

I tried completing VII in 24 hours but it ended up taking me a week-ish. I beat Sephiroth at lvl52

[CrimbleVan]

i no wat we havent covered in this thread, completion time, i completed ff8 in 3 days

FF8 was boring fer like... 2 dics >_<

[Brew]

i agree. theres too much non-ff related talk going on here.

True.

Someone help me choose between

A) Training to beat Ruby and Emerald in VII
or
B) Starting a new game on FFIV
or
C) Completing FFI

[DeusExMachina]

I don't have any particularly impressive speed game finishes, but I know of people finishing FFX somewhere in the 10 hour range, don't remember the exact time.

True.

Someone help me choose between

A) Training to beat Ruby and Emerald in VII
or
B) Starting a new game on FFIV
or
C) Completing FFI
Finish FFI. Then train to beat Ruby and Emerald, because it's faster than playing through all of FFIV again. Then, play FFIV again.

[aMindlessMuse]

True.

Someone help me choose between

A) Training to beat Ruby and Emerald in VII
or
B) Starting a new game on FFIV
or
C) Completing FFI


either C or A... IV rocked but its always better to fnish what you started, so save IV for a later date

[Happy]

A then C then B.

[Brew]

w00t, I've got my Wednesday sorted then :)

[Kingofdudes]

Dont wanna be the bad guy here, but you guys should consider using AIM or MSN a bit more.

Unless you're discussing The Black Mages that is :)
fixed

[DeusExMachina]

fixed
I'm confused. How did you fix it?