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AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
10-31-2004, 10:09 PM
Okay i'm sorry if there is already a thread on this. Anyways i was wondering starting out as a band do u really need pa stuff cause we play good but we're missing vocals and we cant afford pa stuff. Also i want to get some pa stuff but i need some advice on finding some cheap stuff but good perofrmance. Anyways i'd appreciate your advices. thanx

Aus_rock_god
10-31-2004, 10:44 PM
Yeah, a PA is essential if you want to practice at home. If you can't afford one, go to your local recording studio and practice there.

AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
10-31-2004, 10:50 PM
yea but for now we dont really need it like for the first couple weeks u know. and i dont think we have ne studios here.

Aus_rock_god
10-31-2004, 11:22 PM
If you want to have vocals, yes.

StormX
10-31-2004, 11:34 PM
or just plug the mic into a spare guitar amp, as long as the amp is loud enough. that'll save some money.

AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
11-01-2004, 12:00 AM
or just plug the mic into a spare guitar amp, as long as the amp is loud enough. that'll save some money.


how do u do that? i do happen to have a spare guitar amp.

Aus_rock_god
11-01-2004, 12:06 AM
If your Mic has an XLR output (the big one with the three pins) ask your guitar shop for an adapter that goes from XLR to a guitar jack.

It won't work nearly as well as a PA, and the Amp needs to be of greater wattage than your guitar amps (common sence, otherwise you won't be able to hear yourselves).

AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
11-01-2004, 12:11 AM
thanx well it be loud though

Aus_rock_god
11-01-2004, 12:30 AM
probably not as loud as it needs to be. Vocals need to be louder than anything else.

moaner
11-01-2004, 01:57 AM
and, also, it will slowly but surely destroy the amp

Aus_rock_god
11-01-2004, 02:40 AM
Depemds on who's singing through it. Their voice will need to be within the range on a guitar. A barrotone would kill a guitar amp eventually.

moaner
11-01-2004, 04:28 AM
no, i think it has something to do with the different waveforms of the two, and possibly the difference in Ohmage- a guitar is >1MOhm, whereas a mic is 600Ohm

Aus_rock_god
11-01-2004, 05:27 AM
It wouldn't be 600 ohms dude, that's the ohmage of wood. Microphones have the same resistance as guitars. It's more to do with the fact that a guitar amp isn't exactly designed to handle the broad range of a human voice.

diesel
11-01-2004, 01:26 PM
I think you have your ohms confused. The type of ohms that involve mics and guitars are Impedance, not resistance. The difference being, impedance is an object's ability to resist an alternating current. Resistance (in ohms) is just for DC (to simplify). So yes, guitars and mics may have the same resistance, but we're talking impedance, which is a whole different beast. (600 sounds about right for a mic, they vary greatly sometimes tho)

PS unless it's wet, I imagine wood would have a far greater resistance than just 600ohms

AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
11-03-2004, 06:27 PM
umm yeah thanx for all the lessons and advice but would this be good enough just for now.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=live/search/detail/base_pid/630130/
Would it be loud enough?
or this one
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=live/search/detail/base_pid/632200/
Which one is better or louder enough to go over the drums and stuff? Budget tight atleast i got one now so i'd appreciate your advices.

Aes820
11-03-2004, 06:57 PM
Either of those two should be alright. And should be plenty enough to be heard over drums.

AnGrY,yOuNg,AnD_pOoR
11-03-2004, 09:20 PM
Either of those two should be alright. And should be plenty enough to be heard over drums.

but do i need a power amp for either of it or it just comes all ready.

Aes820
11-03-2004, 10:44 PM
It comes all ready to go.