The Official Leftover Crack/Choking Victim Thread

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

This kid sucks.


No respect for others at all.

Shut it you cunt

[PaulRawNerve]

always preferred choking victim over left over crack to be honest, LOC are too rough sounding, whereas 'no gods, no managers' is just awesome! 'Living The Laws' is just inspired as well, me being into more extreme music, this satisfies my needs for that too, but the whole album is just brilliantly done.

one question, i always thought it was noam chomsky talking in between the songs? am i right?

[Jessizzle]

Hm...Really, I Listen to LOC more, but musically CV are better.

[PaulRawNerve]

guess that's just personal preference really, there are one or two songs that both bands do isn't there? i can't remember which one(s), but have definitely heard, and CV just sounds loads better to me.

[echos]

loc and cv have both done born to die and infested..and probably some others and loc and mg have both done gang control

[Nowhereman42]

ever notice whenever LoC redoes songs they suck?

Infested, Rock the 40oz, etc

[echos]

who origonally did rock the 40 oz.?

[echos]

who origonally did rock the 40 oz.?
(and ya they slow down the tempo too, if anything make it faster..man)

[Scabies]

i thought that was just LoC?

[Nowhereman42]

no, I ment the redone version on FWT

as in they redid their own song

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

ever notice whenever LoC redoes songs they suck?

Infested, Rock the 40oz, etc

I do like their version of Rock The 40oz, although i've heard a few people say the Choking Victim one is better so that sing must be brilliant.

EDIT: maybe that's a different song i'm thinking of then?

Didn't Choking victim originally play Born To die but not record it or something like that?

[Forest_Fire]

Was Choking Victim ever recorded live?

[Brain Toad]

I do like their version of Rock The 40oz, although i've heard a few people say the Choking Victim one is better so that sing must be brilliant.

EDIT: maybe that's a different song i'm thinking of then?

Didn't Choking victim originally play Born To die but not record it or something like that?

Born to Die was recorded orginally by CV, and then LoC did it on Mediocre Generica, which is mostly songs written during the CV time.

[cheeser_1]

there's at least 3296392847 different versions of rock the 40 oz. some are better than others, but that's a matter of opinion. who ****ing cares. you're comparing two bands that are practically the same, or the same band to itself. it doesn't mattter.

[Violent&Funky]

LoC's Rock the 40oz. video is pretty ****ed low budget, but hey, it was produced by Team Spider who put on (or at least used to) laughably (probably intentionally so) low budget Manhattan public access TV productions every once in a while. TS seem to be pretty cool guys though.

Also, I'd just like to point out to anyone who was complaining about the rainbow song (Muppet Namblin') LoC does...that's actually a satire of an old song written for the Muppet Movie that kermit performs (called "Rainbow Connection"), and it's basically the antithesis of the original while following the same basic song structure...again, it's called satirical commentary folks.

[KingOfSka]

Was Choking Victim ever recorded live?

Yes I have a live version of "Born To Die"

ever notice whenever LoC redoes songs they suck?

I haven't heard The LoC version of Infested, can you e-mail it to me?

Come to think of it I haven't heard the CV version of Rock The 40 Oz either...

[pedro durruti]

I've never heard this so called LoC Infested

[PaulRawNerve]

there's at least 3296392847 different versions of rock the 40 oz. some are better than others, but that's a matter of opinion. who ****ing cares. you're comparing two bands that are practically the same, or the same band to itself. it doesn't mattter.

see i don't see them as practically the same, even if it were the entire band that were the same members, i personally think they sound a fair bit different from each other.

[KingOfSka]

I've only heard 3 versions. A ****ty live version, the album version, and the video version

[Buzzbomb]

The video version is the album version

[KingOfSka]

No, they're different.

[KingOfSka]

Can somebody please send me the Leftover Crack version of Infested, and the Choking Victim version of Rock The 40 Oz??

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Can somebody please send me the Leftover Crack version of Infested, and the Choking Victim version of Rock The 40 Oz??

Is it you i'm supposed to get the Rock The 40oz video off on msn? I can't remember who it was and they're never online

[3qtzDrunk]

This band reminds me of a line out of Empire Records. ''Shock me shock me shock me with that deviant behavior''. I downloaded a bunch of their stuff and really tried to listen to it with an open mind, but it seems like this band needs to concentrate on making better music rather than coming up with shocking, ''look how punk we are'' album covers and titles. Im all for freedom of speach, and im definitly no fan of G Dubya, but there is making a point, and then there is going way to far. When the moron who wrote the band profile for LOC says, they took a different view, understanding why it happened, and didnt cry like the rest of NY, it just shows how ignorant some people can be. Contrary to popular world belief, our government does not represent ALL of us. Perhaps those people were crying because they lost innocent family members who had nothing to do with anything. Seriousley, make a point, but show some respect, and stop trying to prove how punk rock you are.

[TheNowhereman42]

next time I'm at my dads, which'll be in a day or two, I'll email stuck punk the LoC version of infested, and Twat the Rock the 40oz video

and to stuckpunk, CV didn't do a version of Rock the 40oz, LoC just did two versions of it.

[Jessizzle]

Anyone have the video for rock the 40oz where you dont need to open it with quick time?

[TheNowhereman42]

mines quicktime

[Jessizzle]

yeah same with StuckPunk

[sketchyjoe]

This band reminds me of a line out of Empire Records. ''Shock me shock me shock me with that deviant behavior''. I downloaded a bunch of their stuff and really tried to listen to it with an open mind, but it seems like this band needs to concentrate on making better music rather than coming up with shocking, ''look how punk we are'' album covers and titles. Im all for freedom of speach, and im definitly no fan of G Dubya, but there is making a point, and then there is going way to far. When the moron who wrote the band profile for LOC says, they took a different view, understanding why it happened, and didnt cry like the rest of NY, it just shows how ignorant some people can be. Contrary to popular world belief, our government does not represent ALL of us. Perhaps those people were crying because they lost innocent family members who had nothing to do with anything. Seriousley, make a point, but show some respect, and stop trying to prove how punk rock you are.I like this noob.

[Jessizzle]

Thats a quality post. but im not so sure about the rest.. i havnt noticed much.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

next time I'm at my dads, which'll be in a day or two, I'll email stuck punk the LoC version of infested, and Twat the Rock the 40oz video

and to stuckpunk, CV didn't do a version of Rock the 40oz, LoC just did two versions of it.

cheers

[cheeser_1]

This band reminds me of a line out of Empire Records. ''Shock me shock me shock me with that deviant behavior''. I downloaded a bunch of their stuff and really tried to listen to it with an open mind, but it seems like this band needs to concentrate on making better music rather than coming up with shocking, ''look how punk we are'' album covers and titles. Im all for freedom of speach, and im definitly no fan of G Dubya, but there is making a point, and then there is going way to far. When the moron who wrote the band profile for LOC says, they took a different view, understanding why it happened, and didnt cry like the rest of NY, it just shows how ignorant some people can be. Contrary to popular world belief, our government does not represent ALL of us. Perhaps those people were crying because they lost innocent family members who had nothing to do with anything. Seriousley, make a point, but show some respect, and stop trying to prove how punk rock you are.
eat it. you're just upset because they see what's behind 9-11 and you don't. or maybe you're too dumb to know the difference, and you think you're being sympathetic. nobody cries when we train terrorists around the world. south america, africa, asia, the middle east, they're full of people we trained to slit children's throats and throw babies out of helicopters, and you get sad when people strike back at us? get a grip.

[3qtzDrunk]

eat it. you're just upset because they see what's behind 9-11 and you don't. or maybe you're too dumb to know the difference, and you think you're being sympathetic. nobody cries when we train terrorists around the world. south america, africa, asia, the middle east, they're full of people we trained to slit children's throats and throw babies out of helicopters, and you get sad when people strike back at us? get a grip.
No, I do see the difference, and i think its awful what our government does to people around the world in the name of democracy. What I am concerned about here is the exploitation of innocent people for the purposes of an album cover. Beleive me, if the world trade centers were full of politicians and war masterminds, by all means bomb the crap out of it, however thats not the way it was. Nothing is black and white cheeser, not everyone in those buildings were evil government warheads, innocent people got killed, and that is what im concerned with here.

[sketchyjoe]

I don't agree with LoC's controversy-seeking antics but you can't say that they exploited 9/11 any more than the American government did.

[3qtzDrunk]

I don't agree with LoC's controversy-seeking antics but you can't say that they exploited 9/11 any more than the American government did.
I will agree with you that 9/11 was exploited in the media for the purposes of a war that shouldent have happened, but that still dosent make it right, or make LOC any less guilty because the government did it too. They should have tried to be bigger than that. Say what you want, but they knew that an album cover like that would cause controversy, contrversy=attention, which generates more sales. Exploiting the innocent dead for the purposes of an album, sorry but it dosent sit well with me, even if i do agree with thier stance on the war and our government.

[Unseen2k0]

No, I do see the difference, and i think its awful what our government does to people around the world in the name of democracy. What I am concerned about here is the exploitation of innocent people for the purposes of an album cover. Beleive me, if the world trade centers were full of politicians and war masterminds, by all means bomb the crap out of it, however thats not the way it was. Nothing is black and white cheeser, not everyone in those buildings were evil government warheads, innocent people got killed, and that is what im concerned with here.

They didn't exploit anyone. You say things aren't black and white, but think about this: How many ways are you considering their music? I think you said one sentence about their music and then you just started to talk about their cover art and 9/11. You're only looking at this in black and white. "They want attention so they made a cover." It's not just that. On cover art also says "Blood for Oil". The cover art is a satire of Bush, Cheny and NY former mayor. They didn't have pictures of people in the street or people jumping out of the buildings. It wasn't saying "Haha, look at all these thousands of people!". It wasn't exploiting them. And who really cares if innocent people died? Seriously- Innocent people die every second. By the time you finish reading this post, a couple of innocent people will have died. Innocent children in another country will have starved to death, and I don't really think you care about that. WTC was full of other people who didn't care either, and yeah, there were some blue collar janitors in there. Too bad. People die. That is life. You're born, you die. On that album there is a song called "Soon We'll be dead" about remembering the good times. Maybe, if we look in the grey area that you're skipping- Songs like that, because there is more than 1 on this album, are for the innocent people who died? Did you ever consider that? No. You just assumed they were all about the attention.

"make LOC any less guilty because the government did it too. They should have tried to be bigger than that. Say what you want, but they knew that an album cover like that would cause controversy, contrversy=attention, which generates more sales. Exploiting the innocent dead for the purposes of an album, sorry but it dosent sit well with me, even if i do agree with thier stance on the war and our government."

Bigger than what? Bigger than saying "This happened"? Because it did happen. You can try and deny it if you want. It happened and you shouldn't be scared to look at it. It's people like you who probably want to take certain things out of history books too, because you don't like it. And obviously they don't really care about sales. If they did, they'd probably generate music that could make it in the mainstream and not do things like that which made chain stores say "We will not sell your album." They got very little press over that cover art, and they weren't allowed to sell it in big stores. Maybe you're wrong about how you're going at this?

And what does you mean, "exploiting the innocent dead"? Are you suggesting that every person killed on 9/11 was innocent? Because I assure you, they weren't.

And don't assume that you agree with them on the government. Even they say it doesn't matter if Bush or Kerry got elected. Things are the same either way. Don't group them with the "left" because they hate dicks like you just as much as the "right".

Try to be a person and think for yourself every now and then and not just agree that they did it for attention.

[AIRIC]

Have you considered that maybe they did do it for attention, and to be controvercial? Most of the time on this forum, people aren't agreeing with others, it's their own, formed opinion.

[Unseen2k0]

Have you considered that maybe they did do it for attention, and to be controvercial? Most of the time on this forum, people aren't agreeing with others, it's their own, formed opinion.

Yes. I did.
Then I listened to the album.

And most the time, someone just agrees, like you. "The casualties suxxx". "LoC just does it for attentionnnxz".

They make good music. They stick to their beliefs.

[Brain Toad]

Their whole center is to make political music in such a way it garners attention through offending people and throwing truth in people's face so much it is pushing the lines.

[AIRIC]

Yes. I did.
Then I listened to the album.

And most the time, someone just agrees, like you. "The casualties suxxx". "LoC just does it for attentionnnxz".

They make good music. They stick to their beliefs.


I love the extra letters you put while quoting me. Good job at making me look bad.

[sketchyjoe]

They stick to their beliefs.
What exactly are these beliefs?

[Violent&Funky]

I think to say that LoC are exploiting the victims of 9/11 is a bit of a misunderstanding of where they're coming from. The cover of FWT shows Cheney, Bush and Giuliani puppeteering the attacks on the towers. I can see how people would be offended by that, and it's understandable, but how does making that statement qualify exploitation of innocent victims? I think what people who think that way should understand about Leftover Crack, and the whole CRS7, for that matter is they have always had an uncouth and crass way of bluntly telling their audience how they feel. It isn't as if soon come 9/11, LoC started writing songs about anti-capitalist greed and cop killing for the sake of pissing people off; they have always wrote songs regarding these topics, in spite of the political or social climate.

Now, if they had not addressed these issues in their past and all of a sudden started spouting uncharacteristically outspoken and vile flame fodder I would be more inclined to think they were just jerks trying to profit off of other people's pain; but they didn't change one bit, they just had something else to chalk up to what they believe is a problem caused by overzealous multinational corporations and trade.

Besides, I highly doubt their album sales were boosted by using this image. They've been banned from several record stores (independent and chains), plenty of venues across NYC and the rest of the country. Most people are so touchy over the 9/11 thing they wouldn't dream of supporting a band that had such an image on it's album cover, so they immediately limited their potential buyers market.

Lastly, and this is probably my least valid point (but I think it's still worthy of mention, myself being from Brooklyn), LoC are from NYC, and I can tell you there are plenty of New Yorkers who aren't so uptight and have their panties in a bunch over 9/11. I think a lot of it stems from a feeling that the average person from NYC who is very much a low income blue collar worker that had nothing to do with the towers or world trade in general became automatically pidgeon-holed as a victim on 9/12, and all of a sudden you've got the whole country offering condolences and trying to connect to this tragedy as if it happened in "their" backyard. I guess what I'm trying to say is that lots of the city folk got tired of being used, first by the bombers, then by the media, then by the government, all in the name of something they were immediately associated with but really were absolutely unconnected and priorly unsympathetic to, so a lot of us are more openly against a lot of what's being said and done in our name. And again, it isn't just on the 9/11 issue, it's a lot of things that the CRS7 talk about (like cops, some New Yorkers love em while some hate em) and when it comes to LoC, they make it known clearly what they think to spread the word that it's ok to be vehemently against what is socially acceptable, because in the end it leads to a death of ideas and everyone will start to just blindly follow the most impressive leader.

[3qtzDrunk]

They didn't exploit anyone. You say things aren't black and white, but think about this: How many ways are you considering their music? I think you said one sentence about their music and then you just started to talk about their cover art and 9/11. You're only looking at this in black and white. "They want attention so they made a cover." It's not just that. On cover art also says "Blood for Oil". The cover art is a satire of Bush, Cheny and NY former mayor. They didn't have pictures of people in the street or people jumping out of the buildings. It wasn't saying "Haha, look at all these thousands of people!". It wasn't exploiting them. And who really cares if innocent people died? Seriously- Innocent people die every second. By the time you finish reading this post, a couple of innocent people will have died. Innocent children in another country will have starved to death, and I don't really think you care about that. WTC was full of other people who didn't care either, and yeah, there were some blue collar janitors in there. Too bad. People die. That is life. You're born, you die. On that album there is a song called "Soon We'll be dead" about remembering the good times. Maybe, if we look in the grey area that you're skipping- Songs like that, because there is more than 1 on this album, are for the innocent people who died? Did you ever consider that? No. You just assumed they were all about the attention.

"make LOC any less guilty because the government did it too. They should have tried to be bigger than that. Say what you want, but they knew that an album cover like that would cause controversy, contrversy=attention, which generates more sales. Exploiting the innocent dead for the purposes of an album, sorry but it dosent sit well with me, even if i do agree with thier stance on the war and our government."

Bigger than what? Bigger than saying "This happened"? Because it did happen. You can try and deny it if you want. It happened and you shouldn't be scared to look at it. It's people like you who probably want to take certain things out of history books too, because you don't like it. And obviously they don't really care about sales. If they did, they'd probably generate music that could make it in the mainstream and not do things like that which made chain stores say "We will not sell your album." They got very little press over that cover art, and they weren't allowed to sell it in big stores. Maybe you're wrong about how you're going at this?

And what does you mean, "exploiting the innocent dead"? Are you suggesting that every person killed on 9/11 was innocent? Because I assure you, they weren't.

And don't assume that you agree with them on the government. Even they say it doesn't matter if Bush or Kerry got elected. Things are the same either way. Don't group them with the "left" because they hate dicks like you just as much as the "right".

Try to be a person and think for yourself every now and then and not just agree that they did it for attention.

Innocent people died, who cares? You certinley a sick human being. When someone said to me that they didnt exploit 9/11 anymore than the government, what i was saying is that they should have tried to be better than the government that they are saying is so bad, and not exploit peoples pain. Sorry, but using someone elses pain for you're own purposes is exploitation, not everyone there was innocent, plenty of pepole were though. The day a band puts out a CD showing a stelth bomber bombing a village in Iraq, i will have the same argument. Im not even only talking about LOC, correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the cover art of a Choking Victim CD a dude hanging with a buch of upsidedown crusifixes? Attention attention, look at me look at me. Im sorry, but its this trying way to hard, over the top BS that turns me off. If i thought their music was good, as much as it would pain me, i would admit it. As far as me wanting things I dont like out of history books, calling me a dick, blah blah blah, lets try to have an adult argument. Personally, I dont even think that their CD should be banned anywhere, im completely against cencorship, it should be sold anywhere and everywhere, however, it dosent mean i agree with it. How many ways am i considering thier music? Thats easy, im considering weather or not i think it sucks. Personally i dont like it, but im not telling you what to listen to, if you think its good, great for you, im happy for you.

[Jessizzle]

3qtzDrunk For Noob Of The Month!

[sketchyjoe]

Innocent people died, who cares? You certinley a sick human being. When someone said to me that they didnt exploit 9/11 anymore than the government, what i was saying is that they should have tried to be better than the government that they are saying is so bad, and not exploit peoples pain. Sorry, but using someone elses pain for you're own purposes is exploitation, not everyone there was innocent, plenty of pepole were though. The day a band puts out a CD showing a stelth bomber bombing a village in Iraq, i will have the same argument. Im not even only talking about LOC, correct me if im wrong, but wasnt the cover art of a Choking Victim CD a dude hanging with a buch of upsidedown crusifixes? Attention attention, look at me look at me. Im sorry, but its this trying way to hard, over the top BS that turns me off. If i thought their music was good, as much as it would pain me, i would admit it. As far as me wanting things I dont like out of history books, calling me a dick, blah blah blah, lets try to have an adult argument. Personally, I dont even think that their CD should be banned anywhere, im completely against cencorship, it should be sold anywhere and everywhere, however, it dosent mean i agree with it. How many ways am i considering thier music? Thats easy, im considering weather or not i think it sucks. Personally i dont like it, but im not telling you what to listen to, if you think its good, great for you, im happy for you.I agree with you totally about their attention-seeking lyrics, persona etc. Their self-mythologising is just as bad. But I still like their music.

[a7x ChapterFour]

I heard that LC left hell-cat records on some bad terms and then they made fun of rancid on their new album. So did they get into a fight or something? Because Tim and Brett really helped them out. I just wanna know if anyone knows.

They Left Hellcat records because they didn't want lc's new album **** world trade to release
ok?

[cheeser_1]

Their whole center is to make political music in such a way it garners attention through offending people and throwing truth in people's face so much it is pushing the lines.
i rest my ****ing case. i don't care what people say about their image, or how they convey their message, etc etc, blah blah blah, boo hoo hoo.


to the whiney kid:
they aren't running around offending people by stabbing old ladies. they aren't beating up black kids and burning crosses. they aren't blowing up children with car bombs. they're ****ing musicians, and they're getting across the ****ing truth, important things that most people don't care enough to notice, and you'll sit there and say "oh, but i do notice, i see the truth" and then stick your thumb up your *** while 99.999% of this country isn't as enlightened as little old you. and that helps how? what good is that? you've got it figured out, therefore this offensiveness is unncessary? and who are you to judge art? are you an art critic? are you a musical prodigy? do you design album covers for a living? and even if so, nothing could qualify you to make the judgements you're making. get a life. if you can't handle the truth, buy your albums at stores that censor the artists. they're the best kinds of stores because they barely pay minumum wage and hire full-timers at 28 hours per week. oh i'm sorry, was that harsh dose of truth too much for your sad little ears?

[skankinOstrich]

They Left Hellcat records because they didn't want lc's new album **** world trade to release
ok?


huh? :eek:

[cheeser_1]

huh? :eek:
leftover crack's release of mediocre generica on hellcat was censored, to some degree, by tim armstrong and the other people in charge of the label (a bad decision on their part). he didn't want the columbine shooter stuff in there, not as much of it, and some of the cover art and what not. that's why they split and put out **** world trade on alternative tentacles.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Yeah, and wasn't medocre generica originally titled Shoot The Kids, or did i just make that up?

[Brain Toad]

Yeah, and wasn't medocre generica originally titled Shoot The Kids, or did i just make that up?

Yeah it was orginally called Shoot the Kids at School.

[cheeser_1]

i thought it was shoot the kids up with heroin. :p

[3qtzDrunk]

i rest my ****ing case. i don't care what people say about their image, or how they convey their message, etc etc, blah blah blah, boo hoo hoo.


to the whiney kid:
they aren't running around offending people by stabbing old ladies. they aren't beating up black kids and burning crosses. they aren't blowing up children with car bombs. they're ****ing musicians, and they're getting across the ****ing truth, important things that most people don't care enough to notice, and you'll sit there and say "oh, but i do notice, i see the truth" and then stick your thumb up your *** while 99.999% of this country isn't as enlightened as little old you. and that helps how? what good is that? you've got it figured out, therefore this offensiveness is unncessary? and who are you to judge art? are you an art critic? are you a musical prodigy? do you design album covers for a living? and even if so, nothing could qualify you to make the judgements you're making. get a life. if you can't handle the truth, buy your albums at stores that censor the artists. they're the best kinds of stores because they barely pay minumum wage and hire full-timers at 28 hours per week. oh i'm sorry, was that harsh dose of truth too much for your sad little ears?
Well gee wiz there cheeser, i guess i owe you an apology. For some stupid reason, i got the impression that these forums were here for people to express their opinions, but i guess i was wrong. Now that i realize this, why dont we all skip and frolic hand in hand to a nearby sunny medow and have a frank discussion about the greatness of the band Yellowcard.
Are you frigging serious, do you know how much of a complete moron you made yourself look like? Am i a critic? YES!!! In here, EVERYONE is a critic! That is the whole point of this place. You sit there and accuse me of not being able to handle the truth when thats not even the point im trying to make, and yet you get all teary eyed when someone critizes a band you like. If you had taken the time to actually read instead of spouting insults, you would have see that part where i said that i am against censorship, but that dosent mean i agree with it. But you are obviousley an all or nothing kind of person who cant appreciate why people might not agree with their choice of album covers, so i cannot possibly relate to you. Sketchyjoe on the other hand, that is the kind of person i can completely relate to. He agrees that he dosnet like thier over the top attention seeking antics, but that dosent stop him from listening to music he enjoys. And its not as if im making an outlandish unreasonable argment cheeser, for as many people there are like you who think my argument is stupid, there seems to be an equal amount of people here who agree, even some of thier fans. The only thing i know is that this place is specificly designed for people voicing opinions, some of us do it the right way, with maturity, backing up thier argument with reasonable statements. And then there are poeple like you, who feel the need to insult and make fools of themselves. I do have to remind myself however after looking at the poster profile thread that the average age of the people in here is about mid teenager. Well, i guess with pubes comes maturity, dont worry cheeser, someday you too will sprout a wonderful bush, then maybe we can have this discussion.

[Unseen2k0]

3qtzDrunk- First off, you're not being nearly as reasonable as you're claiming you are. And you're not a critic. You're a teenager living in your mothers basement, more than likely.

But to avoid a fight, how about this: How are they exploiting innocent people? Tell me exactly. I do not understand. How are they doing everything just for attention and no other purpose? Tell me exactly.

Don't say anything if it doesn't apply to those two questions.

[Anti-Prefix]

There are definitely, not necessarily punks that are attention seeking, but bands that want to be labeled punks immediately.

So they make an album in stencil font saying "BAND NAME - F'UCK THE GOV'T" and every single song HAS to be about politics with political titles or else they may be considered posers.

It's not attention-seeking, it's more trying to fit in to category they want to be, or associated with the same bands.

It's trendy, but it's what they want. Atleast they're sending a positive, and truthful message and their sincerity and genuity will show up later, if they deserve it.

[SantaDuJuan]

There are definitely, not necessarily punks that are attention seeking, but bands that want to be labeled punks immediately.

So they make an album in stencil font saying "BAND NAME - F'UCK THE GOV'T" and every single song HAS to be about politics with political titles or else they may be considered posers.

It's not attention-seeking, it's more trying to fit in to category they want to be, or associated with the same bands.

It's trendy, but it's what they want. Atleast they're sending a positive, and truthful message and their sincerity and genuity will show up later, if they deserve it.


That's like all most every punk band out the 70's.

[cheeser_1]

Well gee wiz there cheeser, i guess i owe you an apology. For some stupid reason, i got the impression that these forums were here for people to express their opinions, but i guess i was wrong.
yeah, and your opinion is stupid, misinformed, and more or less wrong, in light of the facts of the matter.


and unseen2k0, you just shot way up on my "cool mxers" list. :chug:

[3qtzDrunk]

3qtzDrunk- First off, you're not being nearly as reasonable as you're claiming you are. And you're not a critic. You're a teenager living in your mothers basement, more than likely.

But to avoid a fight, how about this: How are they exploiting innocent people? Tell me exactly. I do not understand. How are they doing everything just for attention and no other purpose? Tell me exactly.

Don't say anything if it doesn't apply to those two questions.
''And once again i find myself bobbing my head to a mediocre song''
Sorry, that didnt really apply to anything, kind of like speculation about my age and where I live, which I shouldent really need to justify, other than saying im 23 and have my own beautiful place. But seeing as im replying to someone who told me to stay on topic after insulting me, i kind of though it fit. In case you dont know the definition of exlpoitation, here is a handy link to a dictionary: www.dictionary.com. So lets forget about the throngs of evil people that were in that building for a minute, ill give you that, as a matter of fact, lets forget about everyone in that building if you want. How about the people in the plane? People coming from Boston, nowhere near the WTC, probably had nothing to do with anything. How about the firefighters and police who went up there to save people. Its those people I think about, just like I feel horrible for people in Iraq and other place we feel the need to bomb for no reason. And I never said that they do EVERYTHING for attention, but they do use attention seeking antics, which is fine to a point, but there is a line somewhere, for me at least, and for some other people who agree with what im saying, some of them even fans of the band. Im never going to tell someone they are stupid for thier opinion, because it is thier opinion. You have yours, I have mine. Plenty of people have disagreed with me, but i actually respect the people who write out well thought out posts, rather than talk about how someone is living in their parents basement, you are childish.

[3qtzDrunk]

yeah, and your opinion is stupid, misinformed, and more or less wrong, in light of the facts of the matter.


and unseen2k0, you just shot way up on my "cool mxers" list. :chug:
As for you, i see that you are the kind of person who likes people who agree with you, and anyone who disagrees is a moron, and stupid. You cant respect other peoples opinions, so I suggest that maybe affiliating yourself with a political party wouldent be a bad idea. You can vote the party line with the rest of the Republicans or Democrats, and completley agree with anything they say, regardles of weather or not its stupid. After saying things like your opinion is stupid, your opinion is wrong, you pretty much lose all credibility. I would actually have some respect for you if you would write out something interesting without insulting people right away because you are insecure, but since you cant seem to do that, do the rest of us a favor by sticking your fingers in a wood chipper so you cant type anymore.

[TheNowhereman42]

god dammit go away and let us enjoy our leftover crack and chocking victim thread in peace

[cheeser_1]

As for you, i see that you are the kind of person who likes people who agree with you, and anyone who disagrees is a moron, and stupid. You cant respect other peoples opinions, so I suggest that maybe affiliating yourself with a political party wouldent be a bad idea. You can vote the party line with the rest of the Republicans or Democrats, and completley agree with anything they say, regardles of weather or not its stupid. After saying things like your opinion is stupid, your opinion is wrong, you pretty much lose all credibility. I would actually have some respect for you if you would write out something interesting without insulting people right away because you are insecure, but since you cant seem to do that, do the rest of us a favor by sticking your fingers in a wood chipper so you cant type anymore.
yeah. okay. it's my opinion that black people are intrinsically dumb. does that mean my opinion can't be wrong? so you have to respect my opinion and give it as much leverage as you would give the opinion that black people are no different from any other people (a scientific fact, by the way)?

and yes, that was obviously hypothetical.

you're an idiot, and when i call you an idiot, you prove me right. i'm not a party-line voter, i'm not a self-important idiot. you are. you'll sit there and insist that you have some high moral ground, and then tell us we have to respect your opinion on the basis of some sort of equal-opportunit-of-opinion-no-matter-how-dumb. the fact is that you are wrong. they make the art they want. deal with it.


and none of us know the definition of exlpoitation. why don't you fill us in, moron.

[WANK86]

I Like Choking Victim

I Dont Like Leftover Crack

[Anti-Prefix]

I Like Choking Victim

I Dont Like Leftover Crack

I like Leftover Crack's new album more than Choking Victim. But I like Choking Victim's over Leftover Cracks first album.

[Unseen2k0]

So lets forget about the throngs of evil people that were in that building for a minute, ill give you that, as a matter of fact, lets forget about everyone in that building if you want. How about the people in the plane? People coming from Boston, nowhere near the WTC, probably had nothing to do with anything. How about the firefighters and police who went up there to save people. Its those people I think about, just like I feel horrible for people in Iraq and other place we feel the need to bomb for no reason.

And I never said that they do EVERYTHING for attention, but they do use attention seeking antics, which is fine to a point, but there is a line somewhere, for me at least, and for some other people who agree with what im saying, some of them even fans of the band.

Okay, I cut everything you didn't need out of there.
Now where on the album cover do they show the fire fighters? Where in the songs do they sing about them dying? Where are the songs about the people on the plane or a zoomed in look at their faces? And I will overlook your ignorant police statement, you can find out about that on your own. Now how are they exploiting those people by not mentioning them or showing them? How?

Okay, so your answer is beginning to change, and you fail to answer the question. They have been singing songs like these before 9/11 with Clinton was President. How is this album any different from any other? And I ask this because you're not blowing up about any other one. And just because someone goes "I'm a fan of them, but I think they are attention seeking whores" doesn't mean they are fans. I can say I like you, but I don't agree with you. Doesn't mean it's true. So get back to me on those fine points.

[Oi_addict]

I like choking victim and LoC but i don't like the sound of their newest album, the lyrics are good but their kind of losing their skacore and thats why i preffered their first albums.

[extremecorpralpunishment]

theyre site is closed cuz they didnt pay to keep it up. for some reason that isnt shocking but i still love it

[cheeser_1]

I like choking victim and LoC but i don't like the sound of their newest album, the lyrics are good but their kind of losing their skacore and thats why i preffered their first albums.
no they aren't, they still play ska as good as anybody else. and they still play other stuff too, like they always have.

[KingOfSka]

I Like Choking Victim

I Dont Like Leftover Crack

Sort of hard to understand...considering members of CV are in LoC.

Check out InDK and Morning Glory.

n00b

[Brain Toad]

Sort of hard to understand...considering members of CV are in LoC.

Check out InDK and Morning Glory.

n00b

Completely understandable. I like Op Ivy and don't like Rancid. Same members though.

[cheeser_1]

Completely understandable. I like Op Ivy and don't like Rancid. Same members though.
well, not really. they draw alot of different stuff into rancid, especially these days. and even when they started though, the first ST album was nothing at all like operation ivy (life won't wait was probably more like op ivy than anything else they did).

ps if you don't like rancid, you're a dummy face with a stupid head.

[Brain Toad]

I just don't think StuckPunk has a valid opinion, he called InDK ska-punk, he obviously is trying to use knowing these bands as a way to look cool. And I think you are a dummy face too cheeser. I just can't stand Tim's voice in Rancid, never could, it doesn't tickle my fancy.

[echos]

favourite loc song off mediocre - crack city rockers
favourite off FWT - Operation M.O.V.E.

[albert_bass]

Operation M.O.V.E. has a ****ing sweet bass intro. I think it's a bass...

[Scabies]

favourite off FWT - Operation M.O.V.E.

you ****ing freak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jessizzle]

My Favourite sonf off FWT is hmm either Burn Them Prisons or Gang Control..

[Scabies]

^^That girl has style. The other guy is a f'ucking weirdo. uhhhhh.

[albert_bass]

Gang Control and One Dead Cop, no doubt.

[Jessizzle]

Oh man thats an awesome song too... Too hard to pick a best song..
Some may say its all equal crap.. But thats what makes it so much more punk rock.

[albert_bass]

Totally.

[Brain Toad]

Gang Control and Soon We'll Be Deads are mine. But the whole album is quite enjoyable.

[albert_bass]

I love every song on it. I can't tell my absolutely favorites or the ones I like less... But Gang Control and One Dead Cop were the songs that I instantly loved.

[Jessizzle]

I think Gang Control is on most peoples Favorites list.

[Brain Toad]

Gang Control is so loved because its a Morning Glory song, and Morning Glory is awesome.

[echos]

you ****ing freak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i'm sorry i offended you, but how so?

[albert_bass]

I think Gang Control is on most peoples Favorites list.

Good job detective dipshit.


...So Maddox.


Gang Control is so loved because its a Morning Glory song, and Morning Glory is awesome.

123. The only bad thing about them is they only have one LP. (Or I only have one LP by them)

[Scabies]

i'm sorry i offended you, but how so?

i was deeply offended by your suggestion that operation move is a good song, let alone the best on the bloody album.

[echos]

it wasn't my suggestion just my opinion...i liked most if not all of the songs on the album but it's been about 4 months since i baught the cd and i still love that song while others haev gotten alittle stale

[KingOfSka]

Operation MOVE sucks.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Life Is Pain and Gang Control are my favouerite off that album, Operation Move is the worst

[echos]

:) i still stand by my choices

choking victim - crack rock steady, infested
morning glory - gimme heroin, the whole world is watching, gang control

[metty16]

how many albums do Choking Victim have? I just know "No Gods, No Managers"

[echos]

how many albums do Choking Victim have? I just know "No Gods, No Managers"

2 eps and an album

Crack Rock Steady - EP
Sqautta's Paradise - EP
No Gods, No Managers

[KingOfSka]

I'd really like to see Morning Glory live.

[Forest_Fire]

Are any of the CRS7 bands on tour now?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Are any of the CRS7 bands on tour now?

Stza Crack is doing his acoustic stuff at the moment, he's playing Wasted and a London show in England. There may be more but that's all i know of

[punkerjeff]

I heard:
Alec moved to Cali to start a family with his wife
Ezra is back on heroin
and Stza's doing acoustic shows playing CV and LOC songs. He just played w/ Team Spider.

[AIRIC]

haha yeah i was there, they did dammit halfway through 500 channels.


I saw a video, it was awesome.

[albert_bass]

I thought there was an official thread for these guys.

[Brain Toad]

There is, but someone bumped the profile. Oh well.

[waterproofpie]

I saw a video, it was awesome.


Haha, I was there as well. It was hilarious...some kid in the crowd was wearing a studded Blink 182 cap, too.


I heard:
Alec moved to Cali to start a family with his wife
Ezra is back on heroin
and Stza's doing acoustic shows playing CV and LOC songs. He just played w/ Team Spider.

Do you know if there is any place to listen to Stza's acoustic stuff? I can never find any more info.

[Drum Phil]

I didnt see any mention of Brandon anywhere in that

[Scabies]

haha yeah i was there, they did dammit halfway through 500 channels.

sort yer avatar out you silly cunt

[Brain Toad]

I didnt see any mention of Brandon anywhere in that

Maybe because it was written at least a year before his death.

[i_am_zombie_jesus]

pretty good profile...Ive seen like 3 FWT an 2 mediocre generica cds in stores

[On & On]

good profile

[Buzzbomb]

Do all members of LoC like smoking up crack or shooting up herion? Someone told me that today.

[Brain Toad]

Bumping this to the first page so people post in it instead of the profile.

[Brain Toad]

Alright. I've merged the Official thread with the band profile for thread chockfull of LoC goodness.

[cheeser_1]

Alright. I've merged the Official thread with the band profile for thread chockfull of LoC goodness.
my head just exploded.

[Brain Toad]

my head just exploded.

You better clean that up, because I'm not.

[my_ghoti_eats_phish]

Why isn't "Clear Channel" on the recommended song's list? It's an awesome song.

As soon as I find Fu<k World Trade, I'm buying it.

[SlappedByTheClash]

Dude, I found a freakin' record store that carries No Gods, No Managers, Squattaz Paradise, AND Rock the 40 Ounce.


I'm in Crack Rock Steady heaven.


Local music stores are so much hipper than the fat cat corporations. :snaps fingers:

[hey_suburbia]

I have a choking victim show that I filmed in 2000 in Thompson Square Park, NYC if anybody wants it: torrent file- http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3325045/Choking_Victim_LiveNYC.zip.torrent
I have a Leftover Crack / INDK video too, but it's still on my camera...

[cheeser_1]

I have a choking victim show that I filmed in 2000 in Thompson Square Park, NYC if anybody wants it: torrent file- http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3325045/Choking_Victim_LiveNYC.zip.torrent
I have a Leftover Crack / INDK video too, but it's still on my camera...
if this is good, i will give you a million cool points.

[Rise Me Up]

:lol: ^

[Forest_Fire]

If it is good, could someone send it to me over AIM since I don't have a bitorrent and can't download one

[pedro durruti]

I wanna see that also

[KingOfSka]

Why isn't "Clear Channel" on the recommended song's list? It's an awesome song.

As soon as I find Fu<k World Trade, I'm buying it.

www.Interpunk.com

[KingOfSka]

I have a choking victim show that I filmed in 2000 in Thompson Square Park, NYC if anybody wants it: torrent file- http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/3325045/Choking_Victim_LiveNYC.zip.torrent
I have a Leftover Crack / INDK video too, but it's still on my camera...

It works!!! Yes!!!! Oh god I love you. You have to get that LoC/InDk video posted.

[Scabies]

how do you play it?

[Brain Toad]

Download the torrent with a BitTorrent client.
Once it is finished, unzip the zip file with a unzipping program (XP has a built in one)
Then play the file.

[Jessizzle]

It works!!! Yes!!!! Oh god I love you. You have to get that LoC/InDk video posted.
Wanna send it to me?

[Scabies]

Download the torrent with a BitTorrent client.


the who with the what now?

[Brain Toad]

It'll be on my soulseek if anyone wants it that way.

[Forest_Fire]

Someone should upload it on yousendit

[Jessizzle]

Stupid things are so confusing, if Stuck_Punk cant send it over msn can someone else??

[KingOfSka]

Link to upload BitTorrent(Windows Users Only): http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bittorrent/BitTorrent-4.0.1.exe?download

Then download the "Kent UK" one

I'll upload it on yousendit

[KingOfSka]

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YNPIWFRWOPW60P8A588HA2W4S

Theres the concert. I should get rep++ for this.

[hey_suburbia]

So, what does everyone think of the video?

I have Leftover Crack Live in Thomspon Square Park, NYC too.

It's mid day, so it's a lot brighter than the Choking Victim one.

The tape is at my friends house about an hour away, so it's going to take a bit...


Is it worth putting up?

[Forest_Fire]

It wasn't that great quality, but I enjoyed it. For some reason I'd never bothered to find pictures of them so I didn't know what they looked like. I'd never heard the apple pie song before either, excellent bassline.




If you put it on yousendit, I'd probably watch it.

[hey_suburbia]

It wasn't that great quality, but I enjoyed it.

Yeah, I pulled it off my camera years ago and turned it into an .mpg and put it on cd... I wanted to make the file as small as possible, so I made it a 300kb/s .wmv. 26 minutes = 49 mb.

Would you rather I use divx or xvid? The file would be around 200MB, but better quality...

[Brain Toad]

It was a good video. The quality was low, but hey like I went in expecting excellant quality of a live punk show. It was cool to see them preform, Stza looks different with Choking Victim then he does in the video I've seen of Leftover Crack in Austin, Texas.

[Antimony///]

Awesome video. The CV one, at night, where they start with the "tuning song"

I wanna know... whos who... is Stza or Ezra singing? And whats the title of the first song? Thanks.

[Brain Toad]

Awesome video. The CV one, at night, where they start with the "tuning song"

I wanna know... whos who... is Stza or Ezra singing? And whats the title of the first song? Thanks.

Stza is on the mic, wearing a black baseball cap. Ezra is playing guitar and has on a beanie for most of the show. Alec is on the bass, he ahs a beard. I don't know the drummer, I think it's Ara, but I'm not sure. First song (after the tuning song) is Choking Victim.

[Antimony///]

Hmm....


On the inside of the new LOC cd, whos who...

I figured it was Alec, Stza, Brad, and Ezra...


from left to right that it

[Brain Toad]

Hmm....


On the inside of the new LOC cd, whos who...

I figured it was Alec, Stza, Brad, and Ezra...


from left to right that it

I think that is correct, cant figure out really though.

[KingOfSka]

Nick can you post the video from Austin Texas. Anybody who has live LoC or CV or InDk shows, upload em on YouSendIt.

[pedro durruti]

Thanks for uploading that StuckPunk. **** I would have loved to be there, I've only been watching this video for three minutes and it's ****ing awesome

[KingOfSka]

Can someone repost it on YouSendIt, I'm at my friends house and he wants to see it.

EDIT: Nvm

[Jessizzle]

i dont know if its just me but it always says the link is not available.

[KingOfSka]

It shouldn't....I emailed it to your hotmail, have you checked yet?

[username77]

Hey, does anyone know what the symbols mean on the rock the 40 oz album? the ones that look like "kiaa yepeeao". Much thanx

[KingOfSka]

I'm pretty sure that's Russian. Don't know what it says though.

[KingOfSka]

For anybody who hasn't seen the Rock The 40 Oz: Reloaded cover....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/StuckPunk/image3.gif

The lettering on the bottom

[Unseen2k0]

Honestly, it looks like "Kill Yourself".

I have no idea though. That is just what it looks like to me.

[Jessizzle]

Honestly, it looks like "Kill Yourself".

I have no idea though. That is just what it looks like to me.
Actually i can see it too.

[KingOfSka]

Yeah, if it is "Kill Yourself", the L in "Kill" and in "Yourself" are the same.

[Jessizzle]

Yeah, if it is "Kill Yourself", the L in "Kill" and in "Yourself" are the same.

Hahaha i finally got Quick time, but i cant find the file anymore. :upset:

[KingOfSka]

Hahahaha, go on msn, I'll resend it. Or go to Start then Search then search for "loc40oz"

[cheeser_1]

it's a (very poor) transliteration from english to greek of "kill yourself."
only it's more like "yerself." actually it's more like kill yerselph.

fyi: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=transliteration

[Brain Toad]

Some intresting LoC news from their site:

me & brad are searching for a
crusty female singer (in the style of
nausea & antischism) to head our new band.
political minded athiests idealy. we want to trade
vocals off with someone that can bring a feminist
point of view like the record "***** envy" by crass,
though we'd prefer if that wasn't your only
preoccupation because we hate cops and corporations
the most.

send any demo tapes or cds with contact info to:
Scott Sturgeon
p.o. box 1102
n.y., n.y. 10009

we will be based in nyc & plan to record & play a few
shows this summer, it will be musically like a mix
between leftöver crack & f-minus. we have the rest
of the band filled out, we just need your high-pitched
political screeching to fill out our plan.


Sounds intresting.

They are also playing shows with the SubHumAns and Stza has his acoustic shows, so they might not've broken up.

[Weezerfan_returns]

although both bands are pretty cool, i have to say that this is one of the most terribly confusing threads i've ever read...

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Stza is playing this friday in england at the underworld, unfortunately i can't go though

[mook]

I saw Stza on Wednesday in Lancaster. It was a pretty good set.

[Iron Bug]

Who are the people singing the F'ucking Pigs song right after Burn Them Prisons on FWT? Are they kids or was it just Stza and Erza with somekind of studio effect?

[mook]

It says in the booklet, I think it was just 2 kids. They name them in the booklet, but I can't remember exactly. It wasn't Stza and Erza anyway.

[Nihilism'99]

So Leftover Crack is coming here with the Subhumans. Should be pretty cool.

[cheeser_1]

Who are the people singing the F'ucking Pigs song right after Burn Them Prisons on FWT? Are they kids or was it just Stza and Erza with somekind of studio effect?
from the booklet:
Dan-Yell, Charlotte, Alynda (hot do is my hero) & Esra (Epic hotness) perform "****in' Pigs"


i like the fact that the album features background vocals from most of anti-flag and spoken word samples from brian keinlen. i like it when random people from important/famous/popular bands do weird little parts in other people's albums.

[KingOfSka]

I never knew Anti-Flag had anything to do with that album

[mole]

Gonna see LOC in NY with Subhumans, Citizen Fish, and this one band that sounds like Blue Meanies

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

from the booklet:
Dan-Yell, Charlotte, Alynda (hot do is my hero) & Esra (Epic hotness) perform "****in' Pigs"


i like the fact that the album features background vocals from most of anti-flag and spoken word samples from brian keinlen. i like it when random people from important/famous/popular bands do weird little parts in other people's albums.

Yeah, what track did Brian do that on?

Gonna see LOC in NY with Subhumans, Citizen Fish, and this one band that sounds like Blue Meanies

That show will be amazing

[cheeser_1]

Yeah, what track did Brian do that on?

honestly, i'm not so sure. i'm pretty sure anti-flag (minus pat) did some of the backing vocals for Via Sin Dios. brian did spoken word, i'm going to guess it was the bit on Super Tuesday. but i could be wrong. singing voices and talking voices can be pretty different sometimes, and i'm not so sure about it.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

yeah, same. When i saw him listed at the back i made a concious effort to listen out for him on the CD but i couldn't hear him

[IFlogMyMolly16]

So Leftover Crack is coming here with the Subhumans. Should be pretty cool.
Word

[Fabz]

I already have Mediocre Generica....and F*ck World Trade

I want to know if the songs on Rock The 40 Oz are exactly the same as the one on the two other cds?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Just read through this whole thread, i've been listening to so much Crack Rock Steady stuff recently. Good profile, Nick

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YNPIWFRWOPW60P8A588HA2W4S

Theres the concert. I should get rep++ for this.

Can anyone upload this again for me please?

[cheeser_1]

I want to know if the songs on Rock The 40 Oz are exactly the same as the one on the two other cds?no.

[Jessizzle]

I go thru fazez with the CRS7 bands. sometimes im in the mood for it, sometimes not.

[Forest_Fire]

Do No cash and INDK sound like choking victim? If so, I'll downlad the stuff in the YSI thread

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

i'm downloading now. InDk is essentially a punk band i think, not sure about no cash.

[Brain Toad]

InDK is just plain punk. No-Ca$h sounds nearly identical to Leftover Crack, but have no members from any CRS7 bands.

[Forest_Fire]

Okay. Tell me if they're any good. I've never really gotten a chance to hear them.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

i'm listening to them now, i'll let you know

-------------------------------------------

they're very fu'cking good

[cheeser_1]

i saw a couple choking victim 7" go for $120 on ebay the other day.

that's really ****ing sad, to be honest. i think there's just a point where you honestly shouldn't be paying that much for a freaking piece of plastic, no matter how rare it is or who's on it or whatever.

[pedro durruti]

This should be called The Official Crack Rock Steady Thread

InDK is just plain punk. No-Ca$h sounds nearly identical to Leftover Crack, but have no members from any CRS7 bands.
What about songs like East Coast Rising and Moonwalk Mafia

[Unseen2k0]

InDecay has some ska beats but mostly punk ones, so everyone just says "They are plain punk." I can name like 4 songs that have ska beats, and a lot of songs that are ska-ish but not on InDK, but instead M-Glory.

[BoyOnFire]

Good band, I've only ever heard FWT though. My favourite song is Super Tuesday, I even remember looking at the back of the CD after I bought it and thinking that any CD with a song title as awesome as Super Tuesday should be purchased on principle. I really don't like Operation MOVE, the lyrics are interesting but the song isn't very good and the 15 hours of instrumentals afterwards keeps it off any playlist.

[cheeser_1]

I really don't like Operation MOVE, the lyrics are interesting but the song isn't very good and the 15 hours of instrumentals afterwards keeps it off any playlist.
just crop the damned thing. there are plenty of freeware programs out there that can crop mpg/mp3 files easily.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YNPIWFRWOPW60P8A588HA2W4S

Theres the concert. I should get rep++ for this.

could anyone re-do this please? or upload any videos of crack rock steady bands?

cheers

[BoyOnFire]

Cheeser while that might solve that problem, I'll still be left with the other problem of it not being very good.

[cheeser_1]

that's a matter of opinion. there are no freeware programs out there to change opinions just yet, but if i find any, i'll let you know.

[albert_bass]

I like Operation MOVE, the build-up is pretty good. It's the worst song on the album but it's still quite good.

[guns_of_brixton]

I guess I like LoC, but I don't understand them. It sounds like they have a bunch of guitars and keyboards and on alot of songs it is overdone and sounds like s'hit. And maybe I'm misssing something but F'uck World Trade is a hardcore album with very little ska. I still like it, but I sure wouldn't call it ska, and its barely even skacore.

[albert_bass]

I guess I like LoC, but I don't understand them. It sounds like they have a bunch of guitars and keyboards and on alot of songs it is overdone and sounds like s'hit. And maybe I'm misssing something but F'uck World Trade is a hardcore album with very little ska. I still like it, but I sure wouldn't call it ska, and its barely even skacore.

Well I don't think they never said they're hardcore. As for having a bunch of guitars and keyboards, I don't think so. The more I've heard is two guitars and a keyboard and how is that overdone? As for liking them or not, it's a question of musical taste but I think your reasonings are very weak.

[guns_of_brixton]

I like them. I just don't understand them.

[Scabies]

In case no ones posted it, http://www.householdnamerecords.co.uk/ says they definatly aint split up and theyre playing some shows.

[albert_bass]

I like them. I just don't understand them.

I don't understand you, but it's ok as long as you do.

[username77]

I really don't like Operation MOVE
:eek: I LOVE that song.
I love LoC, IMO they are one of the most talented and original bands out there.

[cheeser_1]

And maybe I'm misssing something but F'uck World Trade is a hardcore album with very little ska. I still like it, but I sure wouldn't call it ska, and its barely even skacore.there are 13 tracks. 3 have ska. that's 25% of the album (excluding "soon we'll be dead" since it's something completely different). and although i've never cared to be particularly clear about genre nit-picking, i don't think i'd call them hardcore.

[guns_of_brixton]

i don't think i'd call them hardcore.

I would... but I suck at genres.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, they;ve always come off as more of a hardcore band than anything else to me. They do have a few ska songs though, so I don't know if that makes them some other genre.

[Unseen2k0]

They are a punk band, just one of the better ones trying other things then screaming and playing as fast as possible.

[Brain Toad]

They started out playing ska with punk influence as Choking Victim, but as they became more Leftover Crack they started blending more hardcore and punk, losing a lot of ska. FWT has the least amount of ska of all their albums, but it is still one of the best albums I heard last year. They just experiment with a lot of sounds. The piano breaks and other instrumental breaks make them who they are. It gives them something different when they go from growling crusty hardcore to a slow insturmental done on piano.

[guns_of_brixton]

They started out playing ska with punk influence as Choking Victim, but as they became more Leftover Crack they started blending more hardcore and punk, losing a lot of ska. FWT has the least amount of ska of all their albums, but it is still one of the best albums I heard last year. They just experiment with a lot of sounds. The piano breaks and other instrumental breaks make them who they are. It gives them something different when they go from growling crusty hardcore to a slow insturmental done on piano.

That helped clarify everything alot. Thanks Nicko.

[Brain Toad]

It's what I do. Leftover Crack was one of the first punk bands and ska bands I got into, in fact my first thread here was asking about them.

[albert_bass]

They started out playing ska with punk influence as Choking Victim, but as they became more Leftover Crack they started blending more hardcore and punk, losing a lot of ska. FWT has the least amount of ska of all their albums, but it is still one of the best albums I heard last year. They just experiment with a lot of sounds. The piano breaks and other instrumental breaks make them who they are. It gives them something different when they go from growling crusty hardcore to a slow insturmental done on piano.

I wouldn't be able to explain it better. That's what makes them so great. I love this band.

[cheeser_1]

i think the point is that genres are irrelevant.

[albert_bass]

i think the point is that genres are irrelevant.

But also useful.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YNPIWFRWOPW60P8A588HA2W4S

Theres the concert. I should get rep++ for this.

could anyone re-do this please? or upload any videos of crack rock steady bands?

cheers

[Scabies]

Leftover Crack - Look whos talking now (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3A0FYBU7V4ZES1TNROEMF0EZ3X)

Unreleased LoC song, From their session on The Lock Up :thumb:

[Culture Shock]

Where did you find that?

[Scabies]

Soulseek.

I think i might've got it off of someone from this forum actually.

[Forest_Fire]

Anyone have any choking victim videos? Preferrably live videos?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

THAT'S WHAT I WANT AS WELL!!!!

please. any crack rock steady vids would be great

[Forest_Fire]

I watched the video that was uploaded a long time ago, but I only clicked on "Open" instead of saving it. :(

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

Not to worry, i'm sure* someone will have it








































































*desperately hopeful

[Forest_Fire]

I found a video. I haven't watched it yet though. I think it's just about the band.

http://www.hell-cat.com/movies/

At the bottom

[KingOfSka]

could anyone re-do this please? or upload any videos of crack rock steady bands?

cheers

I'll re-upload it. Ska_Pirate and Twat_Out_Of_Hell, give me your e-mail adresses and I'll send it over yousendit.

[cheeser_1]

I'll re-upload it. Ska_Pirate and Twat_Out_Of_Hell, give me your e-mail adresses and I'll send it over yousendit.
i did it earlier:
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LKKEXH9EZ6AT1A77NOK2G3OFB

[Unseen2k0]

I found a video. I haven't watched it yet though. I think it's just about the band.

http://www.hell-cat.com/movies/

At the bottom

I saw that awhile ago. Makes me laugh when Stza pulls the gun on the cop.

[Brain Toad]

Leftover Crack live in Austin, in RAM format, but if you could watch the CV video on Hellcat, you can watch this.

http://sxx.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ML0X9QJCF8M00P0HC4SLOLWPK

Copy, paste, replace sxx with s35, download, be happy.

[Unseen2k0]

Brain Toad, if you go to my files on Soulseek(TenPinster) and go to my lo-cash folder, LoC extras, I have that show(Austin) and like 2 other live songs(with video) as well.

[Brain Toad]

I think I got the show from the Lo-Cash torrent, along with other shows. I have another show, but it's a pain to zip since its all seperated.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

I'll re-upload it. Ska_Pirate and Twat_Out_Of_Hell, give me your e-mail adresses and I'll send it over yousendit.

i did it earlier:
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1LKKEXH9EZ6AT1A77NOK2G3OFB


Leftover Crack live in Austin, in RAM format, but if you could watch the CV video on Hellcat, you can watch this.

http://sxx.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1ML0X9QJCF8M00P0HC4SLOLWPK

Copy, paste, replace sxx with s35, download, be happy.


thanks a lot guys, appreciate it

[Culture Shock]

What exactly is "RAM format"? I just downloaded the Choking Victim show easily enough and then played it on Windows Media Player. Unfortunately, I tried the same with the LOC show and it didn't work! I really don't know **** about computers but if anyone wants to help this is what is says:

-The file type is supported by the Player, but the file was compressed by using a codec that is not supported by the Player.

-The file type is supported, but you are trying to play it in a way that is not supported by the Player. For example, you might have tried to drag a DVD file with a .vob extension from a DVD to the Windows Media Player icon. Or you might have tried to open a .vob file by clicking Open on the File menu.

-You are trying to play one part of a multipart file. Use a newsreader or other program to combine the files, and then try again.

Thanks

[cheeser_1]

it's a real media file. you need realplayer or a realplayer alternative (they are hard to find and i don't know of any that necessarily work). i'd just as soon not watch it at all.

[TheNowhereman42]

I hate real player so much. I hate quicktime now too, because it only comes with iTunes.

[Brain Toad]

it's a real media file. you need realplayer or a realplayer alternative (they are hard to find and i don't know of any that necessarily work). i'd just as soon not watch it at all.

Real Alternative is an actual program, it's what I use. It playus the files without the crapware that is Real Media.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

There's Real Alternative

That along with VLC and you can play every video file type that has ever existed.

http://www.download.com/VLC-Media-Player/3000-2194_4-10410655.html?tag=lst-0-1

There is VLC, plays every format (including Quicktime, avi, and mpg) except real

[cheeser_1]

Real Alternative is an actual program, it's what I use. It playus the files without the crapware that is Real Media.

http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm

There's Real Alternative
yeah, i've tried that, i couldn't get it to work, but i didn't care too much, i find occassion to use real player once or twice every year, it's not a high priority for me.

[Brain Toad]

I found a program that compresses many video files into one video file, so once I do that to the Leftover Crack show I have, I will YSI it.

I watched the first few songs (hadn't watched it before) and the picture quality is really good. The cameraman ius a bit unsteady, but he is right up against the stage, probably in the Pit. He is close to Alec, so you see his bass most of the time, or Ezra playing. Not many shots of Stza, who is way off on the other side of the stage. The video is Live at Pierre Semard Chambly from 2004, don't know where that venue is though, wasn't labeled.

[Biscuit_box]

I found a program that compresses many video files into one video file, so once I do that to the Leftover Crack show I have, I will YSI it.


Any idea how big it will be when compressed as i would love to see it. Would i need this program to uncompress it or could i just use the windows one for it?

[Brain Toad]

No program needed. It just takes the seperate video files and puts them together in one video file, so you can watch it all at once. Not really compressing, more like combineing I used the wrong word, sorry.

It may be kind of big, the sum of all the videos, let me figure that out right now.

EDIT: size of all the files now is 780 MB, when I did the Against Me! one a few minutes ago, it ended up being a few megs more than the sum, but it might've been because I changed file types from wmv to mpg.

[Biscuit_box]

No program needed. It just takes the seperate video files and puts them together in one video file, so you can watch it all at once. Not really compressing, more like combineing I used the wrong word, sorry.

It may be kind of big, the sum of all the videos, let me figure that out right now.

EDIT: size of all the files now is 780 MB, when I did the Against Me! one a few minutes ago, it ended up being a few megs more than the sum, but it might've been because I changed file types from wmv to mpg.

FFS, i'm dial-up so that would take a long time to download :upset: If you are bored anytime throw it onto soulseek and i'll get it there

[Brain Toad]

It'll go on slsk no matter what. I'm just YSI for the uncool non-slskers.

[Biscuit_box]

It'll go on slsk no matter what. I'm just YSI for the uncool non-slskers.

Cool :cool: just be prepared for a long download from me

[somekindahate]

This sounds cool, you should torrent it though, get it to everyone MUCH faster then you would with soulseek.

[Brain Toad]

The LoC video ended up being 488 MB.

I'm not going to torrent it because it's too much work to turn it into a torrent, find a tracker and then seed it. Soulseek and YSI is fine.

[Culture Shock]

Oh well, I guess I won't be seeing the video. I guess I'll just wait to see them on Saturday with Subhumans in Baltimore!

[$bassline$]

The LoC video ended up being 488 MB.

I'm not going to torrent it because it's too much work to turn it into a torrent, find a tracker and then seed it. Soulseek and YSI is fine.
what's your slsk name?

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

right, i've found a few more LOC vids.

This is a Stza acoustic performance: http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=STZA
(fairly low quality)

There's some LOC vids here: http://www.putfile.com/search.php

Possibly a CV vid here: http://www.putfile.com/search.php


This site seems to be very good. www.putfile.com

[sketchyjoe]

Putfile is like Photobucket but for videos.

[Twat_Out_Of_Hell]

yeah, this is the first time i've heard of the site. It's good, found some good stuff on there

[Forest_Fire]

This is a Stza acoustic performance: http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=STZA
(fairly low quality)

I know it's bad quality, so I may be wrong, but.... does Stza have a mullet?

[cheeser_1]

I know it's bad quality, so I may be wrong, but.... does Stza have a mullet?
sort of, he's had that hair for a while i think. i'm not sure if it's exactly a mullet, but it's kinda like one.
best pic i can find of his hair:
http://www.bankshotrecords.com/images/crack_pic.gif
although this pic is better, overall, you can't see his hair:
http://www.geocities.com/toomanydead/Ryans_Mom_And_STZA.JPG

[cheeser_1]

also http://www.operationivy.com/upload/stza/

[Biscuit_box]

I heard that LoC are gonna change their name if they get popular!

[cheeser_1]

I heard that LoC are gonna change their name if they get popular!to what?

[Biscuit_box]

to what?

I don't know but i know a girl who's mother knows Alec well and she said that he said this. Don't know if she's telling the truth but she seems to be legit. Plus she said that she's going to send me over a LoC shirt signed ;)

[J_McMeaty]

I bought Rock the 40 oz. It is quite bitching.

[Culture Shock]

i just got back from the leftover crack/subhuman show in baltimore. ****ing great. LOC played like 5 choking victim songs which was surprising yet great. couldnt top subhumans though.

[Scabies]

sort of, he's had that hair for a while i think. i'm not sure if it's exactly a mullet, but it's kinda like one.
best pic i can find of his hair:
http://www.bankshotrecords.com/images/crack_pic.gif
although this pic is better, overall, you can't see his hair:
http://www.geocities.com/toomanydead/Ryans_Mom_And_STZA.JPG



He has really crusty dreadlocks, i've touched his hair and its nasty.

[Nihilism'99]

So I went to Leftover Crack last night, and it was sold out before the show started. Whata waste but my friend sold her ticket she bought in advance for $40 bucks.

[nobody's hero999]

im new to lisning 2 cv and loc. so are they really satanic or are they atheist?cuz all there reviews say there satanic but there music is more atheist stuff

[Brain Toad]

im new to lisning 2 cv and loc. so are they really satanic or are they atheist?cuz all there reviews say there satanic but there music is more atheist stuff


Please try harder to spell correctly.

Leftover Crack and Choking Victim are 'atheists but use satan as a metaphor for our atheism' as they had said on their website a while back.

[Anti-Prefix]

I danced with STZA tonight. They (LoC) put on a pretty decent show. They played a bunch of great songs.

[ROT]

the drummer died a whileago and stza is nowa streetmusician in da city with an aacoustic he sings stevie wonder songs

oh man loc is stilltouring and with the subhumans yet?
thats sick":(


and

i dunnoif thesestripes on my dress are pink or orange OR BOTH

[Unseen2k0]

He has really crusty dreadlocks, i've touched his hair and its nasty.

Stza doesn't have dreads, the guitarist from F-Minus does though.

[Scabies]

Stza doesn't have dreads, the guitarist from F-Minus does though.


he has really small ones. either that or he just hasn't washed for a long, long time.

[Brain Toad]

he has really small ones. either that or he just hasn't washed for a long, long time.

I'd go with the latter myself.

[cheeser_1]

I'd go with the latter myself.
i agree.