Official Sum 41 Thread

[Saberpunk]

does anyone know why they were signed up on warped tour, and now theyre not on the roster anymore?

[2muchket!]

WWVII is a great song, stevo has a really cool voice. deryck drums for it ye and also pain for pleasure and reign in pain(also an amazin song)

Reign in Pain is good too. I got WWVII and RIP as bonus songs when I bought Does this look.........

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Yeah same, they are actually maybe 2 of my favourites from the album. Maybe deryck should let stevo sing... nah no way, deryck rules:p

And no I have no idea Saberpunk

[bassist_for_a_band]

OMG I so wish I had a sum 41 dvd... all of my videos of them i downloaded are getting boring. I need more footage

my friend got go chuck yourself and let me borrow it. i ripped it onto windows media player, which told me it was happy live surprise. so pretty much GCY is HLS with a different cover and such. its still sweet. i thought it was a dvd, but its only a cd. a little disappointment there.

but AMAZING nonetheless

[bassist_for_a_band]

Dude... That pisses me off!! GCY is exactly the same as HLS only it has a different title. The cover is the exact same thing and everything.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

I know dude, Happy Live Surprise is just the Japan Version thats all, even though there are no differences at all...

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Simply for the sake of getting some kind of conversation going.

What is your favourite Sum 41 single?

Fat Lip
In Too Deep
Motivation
Make No Difference
Still Waiting
Hell Song
We're All To Blame
Pieces
or Some Say
and any others I may have missed.

Mine would probably be Fat Lip, as it's always been a favourite of mine, and it was the song that got me into Sum 41.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

I have no idea, they are all good and I cant decide

[2muchket!]

Fat Lip, pieces and WWVII

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

i think he meant the CD single not favourite song. If were talkin favourite song then i'd say

Handle This
Pieces
Some Say
No Brains
WWVII
Reign In Pain
Angels with dirty faces
Heart Attack

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I said single!!! :angry: But favourite song's good too... :p
I just want people to start talking, get some action going in this thread!

Is Steve-o really bi?

I've heard that he is... I don't really care either way, he's still a good drummer.

[TheBassicBassist]

Dude... That pisses me off!! GCY is exactly the same as HLS only it has a different title. The cover is the exact same thing and everything.

except that GCY doesn't have the DVD in it and HLS does

Is Steve-o really bi?

no

[bassist_for_a_band]

except that GCY doesn't have the DVD in it and HLS does



no
oh... yes... the DVD. man i wish i had it.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Stevo isnt bi... is he?:confused:

[TheBassicBassist]

Stevo isnt bi... is he?:confused:

I ****ing said no, and he isn't, whoever the **** told him that was a moron

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

:confused: calm down you loser, keep your pants on

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I don't mind if you take your pants off...

And I think I heard about Steve-o on their old site, in the forums or something.. when it was DTLI style.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

that would probably be some loser making it up

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Yup, that's what I thought.

But one thing kinda confused me. On one of the Q&A's, a person asked something like "Are any of the band members gay? That would just suck!"
To which Steve-o replied "**** off."

It was probably just the same guy who made the rumer being a dick though, haha.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Yeah probably, and thats why Stevo probably said **** off because he thought the question was a load of ****

[2muchket!]

Or hes still in the closet

>_>
>_>

[bassist_for_a_band]

Either way they all kick *** at playing music

[2muchket!]

True. Cone IMO is an underrated bass player his playing his well above average with clear sounding alternate basslines. He shines on songs like WWVII

[DJ Ducksauce]

I think that solo on Welcome to Hell sounded a lot like Maxwell Murder though.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Sorry but I disagree, i think Cone is pretty crap and should try and get his playing improved to make some new cool bass lines in the songs.

[benbenben]

Haha, I agree actually. I don't think Cone is that good of a bassist.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

but i do think Dave is definitely an underrated guitarist. Ino he can get some crazy riffs and solos going he just doesnt show it as much as he should so people dont know how good he actually is.

[bassist_for_a_band]

True. Cone IMO is an underrated bass player his playing his well above average with clear sounding alternate basslines. He shines on songs like WWVII
Any idea where I can hear that? I never see it on Limewire... But Cone is an amazing bassist.... I love him

[FauxApathy]

In most Sum 41 songs, I can barely even hear Cone. As far as I can tell, He follows the guitar, or plays simple root notes over and over for almost all the songs I've heard.


Regarding the warped tour... I was excited when I saw them on the list... then disappointed they weren't playing all dates. Only five, in fact. now, if they were playing mine, well, then I'd be happy.

[bassist_for_a_band]

Are you sure? I went to http://www.warpedtour.com and the artist list doesn't have Sum 41.

But man would I love to see them again

Cone does root note a lot, but he's got some cool riffs here and there

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

I've never heard Cone playing much impressive bass parts. I love Sum 41, one of my favourite bands but I just think he could improve.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Cone is decent. He has gotten better, but they're still all pretty young, so they have tons of time to improve.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I think Cone's playing fits in fine with the music. Why change what works for them?
Fair enough people wanna see him prove his talent, but why make a good song chaotic with a crazy bassline, when they can just keep it good and simple?
I guess I just prefer it that way. I love Sum 41 for their music, not thier musicianship.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Yeah I agree but I just think it seems like he's not even trying or something. Dave is amazing but just has to prove it more and show everyone how good he is, stevo is pretty good and Deryck's voiec is just the best, there is noone witha a voice that sounds like that.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I love them all.

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Yes, so do i.

[Tooth Ache]

I don't think the bassist has to be good to make a good band. Look at Blink 182's success.

[A7X_Theater_88]

mm Dave isnt that great, for a pop punkish sorta band guitarist he is good though (even though they are sorta metal as well).
he makes lotsa cool riffs though like 88, and his solo on the bitter end is prity cool.
btw has anyone seen on that DVD introduction to destruction i think, where on in to deep live, he totally ****s up the last bend in the solo lol?

[Tooth Ache]

oh no, not a bend.

[2muchket!]

Cones best lines are rythms, in too deep and WWVII

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

mm Dave isnt that great, for a pop punkish sorta band guitarist he is good though (even though they are sorta metal as well).
he makes lotsa cool riffs though like 88, and his solo on the bitter end is prity cool.
btw has anyone seen on that DVD introduction to destruction i think, where on in to deep live, he totally ****s up the last bend in the solo lol?

Yeah and as a result of it, the note deryck sings doesnt match the last note dave is suppose to play and sounds awful.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I so want to get introduction to destruction... I wonder if any place in the mall would have it? maybe ill take alook sometime...

any idea where i can hear or download WWVII? i havent seen it on limewire...

[A7X_Theater_88]

Originally Posted by Tooth Ache
oh no, not a bend.

yes a bend, and it sounds dreadful and makes him look shizen at guitar]

yeah WWVII is on limewire if you look hard enough, I got it off there

[bassist_for_a_band]

sweet, i found WWVII on limewire

i never knew it was the song from the menu on cross the t's and gouge your eye's

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

I got WWVII from bearshare

[Untitled]

i got WWVII on the DTLI disk.

[2muchket!]

^ As I did too.

[A7X_Theater_88]

Does anybody know if they are planning to or when they are going to release a new album?

[bassist_for_a_band]

They said they'd be working on it this year but are uncertain about a release date

[2muchket!]

I haven't made any attempt to buy chuck should I ? I own AKNF and DTLI.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

IMO:
DTLI > Chuck > AKNF > HHOP
It's alot more like DTLI, so if you prefer it to AKNF, I suggest you get it.
Or, just do what ever the hell you want, and don't take advise from random's on the interweb. Either ways good...

[A7X_Theater_88]

If you like there more heavier songs over their poppunk songs like fat lip in to deep and stuff than definitely buy it. Its a lot heavier than AKNF

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

Its a good album and worth buying, do it. All killer no filler really isn't that great..

[Scoot]

Dave left. This band is over.

[Pazz]

Scott posts in Pop-Punk, what's wrong with this picture.


Umm, any links?

[DJ Ducksauce]

Dave left. This band is over.
Linkplz.

If you're wrong, I and everyone one else in this thread will kill you. :)

[Pazz]

I'm talking to Scott on MSN.

He says someone posted it in R&M, it could be false. They don't have any links to back it up.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Ah, I see.

Stupid nubs.

[Scoot]

Could be a false alarm, no worries. Probably a stupid nub.

I used to like this band a lot but I outgrew the genre.

The reason I posteed in this forum is because someone from here posted in R&M.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I semi like the band. I used to like them a lot, but then I got into better music.

[Pazz]

I just started getting right back into them again.

[Permanent Solution]

Wiki says it was announced on the radio.

That doesn't verify it but eh, tis possible.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I was kinda looking forward to another album.

Any "reason" for him quitting?

That is if he actually did.

[Permanent Solution]

All it says is he left on friendly terms. If it happens I'm sure there will be an official press release but nothing is on their site yet.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Oh. Yeah, I checked their site as soon as I saw that post and saw nothing.

[Pazz]

Oh Edge is the radio station that said he left. Don't believe it. They are the worst for getting information from. Wait until there is an official release.

[apple pie]

yah i got it from the edge

[Pazz]

yah i got it from the edge

Was it in the morning show?

[apple pie]

morning show and then again in the evening

[Pazz]

morning show and then again in the evening

Well being in the morning I would say it's quite possibly not true, since the guys who do that are ignorant bastards and like to piss people off. As for the evening, I don't listen to those guys, so I don't know if they would go along or not.

[apple pie]

quite frankly, I think when they put of chuck, they became a little bit worse, I liked their more pop-ish sound.

[DJ Ducksauce]

quite frankly, I think when they put of chuck, they became a little bit worse, I liked their more pop-ish sound.
/agreed

DTLI was amazing though.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Personally, I prefer the more 'rock' sound.
I loved DTLI, and Chuck was great too.
AKNF and HHOP were great albums, just not as good as the others, IMO.
I think Sum 41 are a much better rock band than a pop-punk band. But they do very well at both. I just find the heavier stuff more... Powerful. If that makes any sence...

[apple pie]

well DTLI, was like the cross genre, and I think they are the best at that time,

[!MuDvAyNiAn!]

well DTLI, was like the cross genre, and I think they are the best at that time,

Agreed, DTLI is their best album because it is kind of in between.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Personally, I prefer the more 'rock' sound.
I loved DTLI, and Chuck was great too.
AKNF and HHOP were great albums, just not as good as the others, IMO.
I think Sum 41 are a much better rock band than a pop-punk band. But they do very well at both. I just find the heavier stuff more... Powerful. If that makes any sence...
I think that Sum 41 tried to change their sound too much in Chuck because of all the success of DTLI. Chuck was really a big let down. It's the only album that kind of bored me. I love Pieces though. My favorite song on the album.

[B]

Dave has indeed left the band, it's been confirmed. I don't know if this has been said yet or not, but it's true. Too bad as he was the only one with any real talent. Perhaps he'll go on to form a better band. Apparently he said something along the lines of the band wasn't suited to what he wanted to do and how he wanted to express himself anymore, but there's no hard feelings between them.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Oh ****, I didn't know about that.
I hope they find a good replacement, and all the best to Dave, he is an excellent guitarest.
****, Sum 41 better not end for this... I've been waiting for a new album for too long. That sucks.

[Kif]

Here's his statement he said about him leaving the band

"I couldn't continue on creatively in Sum 41 without being a thorn in the side of the band. As people grow, they change, All I can ask is that our fans understand and accept my thanks for being there for me whenever I was feeling happy, sad or depressed. The first thing Steve [Jocz], Cone [McCaslin] and Deryck [Whibley] told me was that they just want me to be happy. It was awesome to hear that we all had the same feelings."

Dave will instead concentrate on his classic metal project, Brown Brigade. He is currently auditioning vocalists and working on material for the band.

[16 Nipples]

Aww **** that just put me on a downer. He was a great guitarist aswell. Maybe he wanted to go down the metal route more and the rest of the band didn't?

[Pazz]

I doubt Sum 41 will stop there. They will probably get a replacement.

[Kif]

It won't be the same though. Dave was the credible musician in that band (Well, Steve is a good drummer actually).

[Pazz]

I know it won't be the same, unless they can find an amazing guitar replacement, which is doubtful.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I'll audition for it. I'm pretty amazing with my axe.
(Luckily no one on here has heard me play guitar, so they don't know that I'm utterally pathetic.)
Yup, I'm the second coming of Hendrix.

[A7X_Theater_88]

they'll probably go back to their aknf pop punk now. damn that sucks

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I doubt it, coz Deryck was the main songwriter in all their albums.
He wrote all the songs on DTLI and Chuck, so I don't see why he would stop writing heavier songs now.
Although I'm expecting an absence of shred solos, not that I mind, I've never liked solos. They bore me, I see them as a way for the guitarist to show off, I don't care how good the guitarist is, as long as he writes cool tunes it's fine with me.

[Bad Blood]

I love solos, but not when they're stupidly fast and don't actually make it sound good. People will think it's good though, just because it's fast.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I would actually love it if they went back to pop-punk, but I doubt it's gonna happen.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I can't believe Dave left... They'll never be the same. As cool as it is that the new album is supposed to be "Classic Sum 41 but better" and "a mix of all of our old stuff," it still won't be the same.

I think they said they're not looking for a replacement... And I'd rather they didn't. Sum 41 isn't Sum 41 if it's not the 4 members it's been, or at least three of them. I don't want to see someone else in the band, I just don't. I'd rather it continue as a three member band, even if someone plays guitar for live performances, than continue being a 4 member band with a new guitarist.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I glad that they did a live album as a whole band before Dave left. Something really cool and nice. Now if they only released a DVD over here...

[TheBassicBassist]

For some reason, Dave leaving just doesn't surprise me, and I don't feel bad about it or anything, it's weird I know, but...things happen I guess, I hope they find someone good to replace him...whatever

[form]

I felt the same from when I didn't know, to when I did.

They'll get someone else probably anyway, so I don't even care.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I don't want them to replace him... I couldn't even imagine someone else being able to. It'll be weird, but I'd rather it satyed Cone, Deryck, and Steve. It's not the same without Dave, let alone with an entirely new guitarist. I know they'd need a lead for live stuff but I wouldn't want to see someone actually become part of the band...

But I hope everything goes well for them all. Deryck said on the Sum 41 messageboard that the new album would be a mix of their old stuff, and "classic sum 41 but better." So I'm really hoping to hear some sweet **** that I know Sum 41 can come up with.

[masterbasser41]

I dont know what it was but i always knew that he would quit one day he was an amazing guitarest made sum what they were with out them they wont be the same i hope they dont get another member it wouldent be right it would be weird go threw all that than get another guitarest to join and learn all there songs and make more it will be impossible to replace dave.

[guitarsolosrock]

nothing is gonna change with sum 41 and the music they make, i believe that this album will be the best one so far, and nothign will change as far as the guitar riffs and chords go because it was derek that wrote them and told dave what to play. also i read somewhere that sum 41 will not be searching for a replacement guitarist. this is good because as someone said earlier, no one else can really fit in with these guys, they guys are crazy and their live shows are amazing and they kind of person that would fit seamlessly into that group only comes along once in a while and i think that the only person that fit in with them was dave. he's i quote from derek i found:

"The fact is Dave lost interest a long time ago," Whibley added. "Not to take any credit away from him, but he really didn't have anything to do with this band creatively for a long time. I wrote all those riffs and played most of them on the albums. So from a creative stand point nothing is going to change with Sum 41."



Also i heard that apparently dave has been depressed and was "distant" form the band members the only time they really talked was on the road and in studio when they had to. But apparently dave has been considering quitting since AKNF

[Jessizzle]

Hey, Maybe they'll come home!

[bassist_for_a_band]

Well I see that they updated the news on sum41.com... They just say how Dave left and all... Nothing new.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Well, they are working on the new album. I hope it's not too Chuck'y'

[FauxApathy]

Ha... i kinda hope there will be another rap/rock song ala It's what we're all about or Fat Lip.


It'd be kinda weird without dave though... only two people trading lyrics back and forth.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Wow, how would they do that live? Cone isn't much of a talker.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

I love Cone. He only says like 5 words a show, but he always makes me laugh.

Deryck: "I'm ****in' stupid!"
Cone: "It's true."

So subtle, yet, I found it funny.

..Anyways, I rekon Cone could fill in for Dave's vocal parts, he's not a bad singer, I've heard him on a few live tracks.
ie: No Brains; the 'So Sick of you, so sick of... " bit.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Yeah, he did some yelling in We're All to Blame on a live performance I saw. He wasn't bad.

[bassist_for_a_band]

Yea he does some backups but nothing near what Dave did... We'll have to wait and see


And on the Sum41.com messageboard, Deryck said the new album would be a mix of all of their old stuff... And "'Classic Sum 41' but better." So that's what I'm hoping for. More of an HHoP-esqe sound. But hey, any Sum 41 is good Sum 41.

I downloaded Moron, Subject To Change, Noots, WWVII... All those bonus tracks and stuff. They're pretty cool. I like how Subject To Change has lyrics from other songs like No Reason. It's almost like some songs thrown together or something.

[bullgarrafuerte]

i like motivation a lot.. but I don't know if they are still playing as a band?

[FauxApathy]

I've been meaning to ask, what album is WWVII on? I've looked through tracklists many times, and have never saw it listed.

bullgarrafuerte: Yes, they are still a band, The Lead Guitarist has quit however.

[bullgarrafuerte]

mmm.. so I think they will not be the same as they used to be... i hope the new cd is as good as the last one does this look infected dave was cool-..

[yourstruly]

I'm not really that bummed or surprised that Dave left. I'm real curious as to what the new music is gonna be like.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I've been meaning to ask, what album is WWVII on? I've looked through tracklists many times, and have never saw it listed.

bullgarrafuerte: Yes, they are still a band, The Lead Guitarist has quit however.
It was on the bonus DVD Cross Your T's and Gouge Your Eyes that came with Does This Look Infected?

[nightwalker]

wtf i didnt even know he had left, hes a great player i think .

[Clunge]

Ahh, I dug out All Killer No Filler and Does This Look Infected? a week or so ago, I really forgot how much I liked Sum 41 and how much better they are than the current crop of similar bands.

I didn't care for Chuck much though.

[bullgarrafuerte]

bzzd and cone are still on the band..and throughout this years they have changing their themes and becoming more mature as well but I think their next CD will be their last one..

[DJ Ducksauce]

That sounds very possible. It would be sad to see Sum 41 go though.

[bullgarrafuerte]

I've never went to a concert... I'd kill for getting a ticket.. are they doing more performances?

[bassist_for_a_band]

I would assume that they'd tour whenever their next album comes out... That might not be until 2007 though... Who knows

[nightwalker]

i like there sound now. i read that dave wants to be in a more metal band, i like metal sound of sum 41 now. there not metal but got heavy riffs in it and they are still catchy

[bullgarrafuerte]

more metal?.. mmm that's kind of wierd-- sum 41 for me seems to be everything but not metal-..

[Neoteric]

Nothing On My Back is such a catchy song :)

[yourstruly]

i like there sound now. i read that dave wants to be in a more metal band, i like metal sound of sum 41 now. there not metal but got heavy riffs in it and they are still catchy
Sum 41 aren't metal at all. They're just pop/punk with heavy riffs.

[bullgarrafuerte]

I agree with that.. but does anybody know in what band is dave going to be playing know?

[bassist_for_a_band]

I agree with that.. but does anybody know in what band is dave going to be playing know?
He's starting his own metal band, Brown Brigade

or something along those lines

[yourstruly]

Bummer, I hate metal.

[bullgarrafuerte]

That really sucks.. I think he is not going to get somewhere having his metal band..but still dave is dave and I also think that he will be able to make ot somewhere

[DJ Ducksauce]

Sum 41 is pretty popular, but I don't think they're big enough to have a spin off band be very successful like blink could.

[Bad Blood]

He's starting his own metal band, Brown Brigade

or something along those lines

Lmao! "Brown Brigade"

[Neoteric]

That really sucks.. I think he is not going to get somewhere having his metal band..but still dave is dave and I also think that he will be able to make ot somewhere
Well the whole band were all into metal.

[punkrocker-182]

I Like old Sum 41
Before Chuck.

[bullgarrafuerte]

I like to play pieces-- I think this is the only song they made this way. its like really quiet

[bassist_for_a_band]

Sum 41 is pretty popular, but I don't think they're big enough to have a spin off band be very successful like blink could.
Blink had like at least 4 spinoff bands....

[punkrocker-182]

Blink had like at least 4 spinoff bands....

5 soon.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Blink had like at least 4 spinoff bands....
Yeah, and all have done quite well for themselves.

I was saying that I don't think that the Brown Brigade will be that successful. It will have some following, but not a big one at first.

[yourstruly]

Yeah. I think his new band will be more like how the Foo Fighters formed. Dave came from a massively popular band but Foo Fighters still had to work hard to get where they are today.

[2muchket!]

Well I hope this doesn't affect them as a band and their new album. I thought Chuck sucked TBH

hey everyone so yes the rumors are true. dave has left the band. he was sick of this whole life and would have more fun playing in his own classic metal band. so we respect that. there's no hard feelings what so ever. the fact is dave lost interest a long time ago. not to take any credit away from him, but he really didn't have anything to do with this band creatively for a long time. i wrote all those riffs and played most of them on the albums. so from a creative stand point nothing is going to change with sum41. we will miss dave a lot. and we don't plan on replacing him. we are in the middle of making our greatest record yet. it will definitely be our most exciting and important record we've ever made. and we plan on touring more and longer on this album than we ever have before. this may sound weird but this is the best thing that could have happened to sum41 right now. because in order to make a great record everyone involved has to be excited. and daves excitment was gone after all killer. so don't worry, sum41 is still sum41 and will sound the way we always have. we're just bummed we won't get to share the same stage with dave anymore. see you all soon.
biz

we will hire someone that tours live but will not be a member of the band. that person won't be in videos, photos, or have any kind of decision making power in the band. they won't play on the albums. they will just play live with us. we don't know who that person will be yet. we don't need to think about it until the album is done.




Thats from deryck. Sounds suspiciously like Green Day to me :(

[yourstruly]

Yeah it does. I think it's pretty cheap to have someone doing all this work for your band and not actually being an official member of it.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Well GD at least gave the guy some credit. They actually introduced all of the players who weren't in the band in the BiaB DVD.

I think he'll eventually grow on them and then actually join. It'll take some time though.

[bassist_for_a_band]

In Green Day, Jason White was their friend, and in the When I Come Around video... I guess they just thought of him when they needed someone to play live shows. Their stuff is written with and for 3 players, only 1 being guitar... Jason is just for backgrounds and solos and stuff... Anything BJ doesn't play

With Sum 41, it's actually four-member music, and it'd be a lot different playing it with only 3 people. They're only going to be doing that so all of the parts are filled

I know it's a bit Green Day-esque, but it's not as much as one would think

[yourstruly]

I agree. The stuff Dave played was fairly difficult, they're gonna have to find a pretty decent guitarist.

[chumpradio]

To the people saying that it sounds suspiciously like Green Day : lots of bands have touring guitarists or musicians. It happens all the time with 3 piece bands who want a more full sound live.

[2muchket!]

Yeah agreed. G'n'R had a fuc'king army of touring musicinas :p

[DJ Ducksauce]

Yeah agreed. G'n'R had a fuc'king army of touring musicinas :p
Yeah, and back up singers too. Kiss has an orchestra. :p

[2muchket!]

And lars from Metallica has a huge ego that sorta counts :p

[nightwalker]

lmao at last post.
yeah some bands need more people live to give it more effect in a way.
i thought it was daft that GNR had loads of other people. matt sorum said when he joined he thought he was joining a bad *** rock band and theres a keyboard player and a full orchestra.

i hope sum 41 do well without him, i thought he was good player and liked al his stuff. i hope his band does well as well, it wont compared to sum41 you can just see it but i hope it does

[TheBassicBassist]

I finally performed Pieces live with some dudes, it was a pretty good show, I don't have a recording of it that is possible to post right now, so...sorry about that, and that's it

[E_man]

Its such a shame to hear daves leaving and especially since he lost interest after all killer no filler. I went and put it in the cd player the other day and I was like wo, good ****, shame the guitar works quite nice, and theres alot of interesting bass if you listen hard enough.

[DJ Ducksauce]

I can play Pieces on piano. It's really fun to play.

Did you do the electric or piano version Richard?


They need to show off Cone a bit more. He's a pretty good bassist, and the only time he's shone any was on Welcome to Hell.

[TheBassicBassist]

I can play Pieces on piano. It's really fun to play.

Did you do the electric or piano version Richard?


They need to show off Cone a bit more. He's a pretty good bassist, and the only time he's shone any was on Welcome to Hell.

Here's what we did, we had the drummer play the intro to Sugar We're Going Down by Fall Out Boy to fake people out, then our pianist came in with the piano intro, and played the piano version through the song, and after he played the piano intro our guitarists started doing their thing and then me and the drummer came in, so it was like, a special blend of both with a bonus drum intro

[2muchket!]

Its such a shame to hear daves leaving and especially since he lost interest after all killer no filler. I went and put it in the cd player the other day and I was like wo, good ****, shame the guitar works quite nice, and theres alot of interesting bass if you listen hard enough.

Bout time he got some recognition.

[yourstruly]

To me Dave just seemed like the odd one out in the band.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

Racist!

Haha, sorry, first thing that came to mind.

I always though Dave fitted in so well. Not because of his musical interests or abilities, but coz he seemed to get on so well with the guys.
Well I guess that doesn't really matter if you don't enjoy the music you're playing...
Does this mean Deryck will be playing any solos that may appear on the upcoming album? I'd assume so. I'm actually quite interested to see what he can do.

[16 Nipples]

Dereck always wrote the solos according to him anywayz

[yourstruly]

yeah I wouldn't doubt that. Deryck is actually a pretty decent guitarist.

[TheBassicBassist]

I don't think that Deryck would have written the solos, though it looks like he has to now. Dave leaving will drastically change the way that they perform live, but they should still be absolutely amazing on studio records.

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Dave's leaving?

When did this happen?

[Grohlthegreat]

Dave...Brownsound ? I thought he left already.

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Well I sure never knew about it.

[Pazz]

Dave's leaving?

When did this happen?

A good month and half now.

[yourstruly]

yes, we're all very bummed

[TheBassicBassist]

yes, we're all very bummed

I'm not very bummed, for some reason I really don't care that much, I'll still mosh like no one's business in their honor

[2muchket!]

Well by the sounds of what deryck has said its him that writes the solos, so if he writes 'em its likely he can play them. I wonder why then Dave did all the solos ?

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Well by the sounds of what deryck has said its him that writes the solos, so if he writes 'em its likely he can play them. I wonder why then Dave did all the solos ?

Deryck is lazy, that's why. That and he was playing rythym.

[TheBassicBassist]

Well by the sounds of what deryck has said its him that writes the solos, so if he writes 'em its likely he can play them. I wonder why then Dave did all the solos ?

Because that's what lead guitarists do. They do the lead. That should have been obvious.

[Fish]

wait so deryck writes all the solos that dave plays? :eek: no..

[711]

^ I kno rite...

[bassist_for_a_band]

Man sometimes I get pissed... Everywhere I go people are calling Sum 41 "emo" or "stupid canadians" or some BS... And it's like, have they heard anything from Chuck? some of that stuff is pretty damn sweet and takes a good bit of talent. And whether or not Dave is in the band anymore, he was one hell of a guitarist. Steve's a pretty damn good drummer, too

I just wish people would listen to more of a band's music before bashing them

[711]

Dave is leaving... this sucks.

I dont like the stuff on Chuck as much as the older stuff

[Fish]

i more familiar with chuck, it changed a lot from the earlier pop-punky stuff

[nobodyblossomsforever]

Lots of people are too fixated on complexity and hard techniques and all that, when in reality the simple stuff is actually entertaining.

I've never heard anyone refer to Sum 41 as emo, not even on the forums.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Canadians may be stupid (:p), but Sum 41 sure aren't emo. They have probably been called that due to Deryck's recent black hair and then the release of the song Pieces.

Old Sum 41 ftw.

[yourstruly]

I'm not very bummed, for some reason I really don't care that much, I'll still mosh like no one's business in their honor
I guess sarcasm doesn't come across too well in writing. I really don't care that Dave left to be honest.

[TheBassicBassist]

Well, while Sum 41 is my favorite band and have been for quite some time now, and will be for quite some time later, I only listen to the most complex music around, I'm talking stuff like Necrophagist, They Might Be Giants, Between the Buried and Me, and stuff like that, and as far as heaviness, my favorite genre is Death Metal. It's just first impressions, whatever they first thought is what they're dead set on. My first impression of metal was that I hated it with a passion, now I love it like no one's business, all thanks to Shadows Fall. Anyways...I still don't believe that Deryck wrote the solos, and nothing any of you say can make me think that it's true. He said he wrote most of the riffs, those were his exact words...riffs. And Deryck having blonde hair not only happened awhile back, but didn't make him seem emo at all.

[yourstruly]

yeah, I'm so used to emos having emo fringes and the exact same style, I don't think he's emo at all. I always thought his hair was bleached and black was his natural colour but I guess I was wrong.

[Bad Blood]

I doubt Deryck did write the solos, he's not that good of a guitarist.

[poo-poo-pee-pee]

How do you know though? He never really shows off during shows, and we dunno who plays the solo's on the albums.

[Bad Blood]

I just assume. If he did write any of the solos i'm sure he would play some in shows.

[yourstruly]

I doubt Deryck did write the solos, he's not that good of a guitarist.He's an alright guitarist. Some of his guitar parts are pretty hard to play while singing.

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, but guitar parts on their own, aren't amazing. I dunno. I always though of him as a mediocre guitarist.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Well usually when the main singer is playing guitar, his part isn't complicated and is easy to play while singing.

He seems like one of those good guitarists who can play, but doesn't show it off live any. Like Billie Joe kinda.

[Fish]

Well usually when the main singer is playing guitar, his part isn't complicated and is easy to play while singing.
He seems like one of those good guitarists who can play, but doesn't show it off live any. Like Billie Joe kinda.

Ahem! Claudio! :mad:

[DJ Ducksauce]

Haha, yeah, that's only some of his songs though, usually, when he's singing, it's not too complicated.

I can kinda do IKKSE:3 while singing, but it's pretty confuzzling.

And I did say usually...

[Slaybial Punker]

I solved the mystery of who really wrote the solos. Though not much of a surprise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kRRzvc0XzfQ&search=Dave%20Brownsound

Though, Deryck is a pretty creative guy. You look at the riffs for Fat Lip, Over My Head, Still Waiting, The Bitter End... They're all pretty good. Deryck could probably solo if he wanted to.

[TheBassicBassist]

Haha, yeah, that's only some of his songs though, usually, when he's singing, it's not too complicated.

I can kinda do IKKSE:3 while singing, but it's pretty confuzzling.

And I did say usually...

Necrophagist's lead growler does the growls while playing the lead guitar parts, and if you look at their tabs, you'll know that it is in fact impossible, but he does it anyways.

[TheBassicBassist]

I solved the mystery of who really wrote the solos. Though not much of a surprise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kRRzvc0XzfQ&search=Dave%20Brownsound

Though, Deryck is a pretty creative guy. You look at the riffs for Fat Lip, Over My Head, Still Waiting, The Bitter End... They're all pretty good. Deryck could probably solo if he wanted to.

HAHA, WHO'S RIGHT? Don't frieking argue with me anymore...and I'm not necessarily talking to you Slaybial Punker, but anyone who disagreed with what I said.

[Fish]

whoa, nice... i wonder what they are going to do now though

[TheBassicBassist]

whoa, nice... i wonder what they are going to do now though

Be amazing and have fun doing it

[yourstruly]

I think it's real cool that they're so chilled about the whole situation. No bitterness at all. :)

[TheBassicBassist]

I think it's real cool that they're so chilled about the whole situation. No bitterness at all. :)

That's because they thoroughly understand that "you can't escape the bitter end". So they just except it all and move on. :chug:

[2muchket!]

Well usually when the main singer is playing guitar, his part isn't complicated and is easy to play while singing.

He seems like one of those good guitarists who can play, but doesn't show it off live any. Like Billie Joe kinda.

What about Dave Mustaine ??

[DJ Ducksauce]

Well like I said earlier, I didn't say all main singers.

[2muchket!]

Yeah yeah, anyway it will be interesting to see what they're gonna be like live now.

[TheBassicBassist]

The only thing that is going to change as far as live performances is the rap. Because, alot of guitarists are as good as Dave, so they can play the guitar, on top of the fact that Dave didn't ever do anything crazy on stage, so his stage presence will just get replaced. It'll be fine, stop worrying about it.

[yourstruly]

Losing Dave isn't a big deal at all. Nothing compared to if Green Day lost Mike.

[TheBassicBassist]

The Goon Platoon is closing down for good...too bad huh?

[DJ Ducksauce]

Oh wow, is there a reason as to why?

[TheBassicBassist]

Oh wow, is there a reason as to why?

Apparently they feel that their fan-base is in jeapordy, because you have to pay to be a member...so in order to pay back all the members of Goon Platoon they're sending all of the paying people a poster with their name on it...I think it's kid of stupid, but whatever, they thought that alot of their fans just didn't care that much because you had to pay to see all of the bonus content and stuff. The whole thing is just really dumb, and I think that it should still be open.

[yourstruly]

Is this "Goon Platoon" like a fan club sorta thing?

[DJ Ducksauce]

Yeah, it's kind of like blink's street team and many other bands have things like this where if you pay, you get certain priveleges and content that other people don't. I guess that Sum 41 felt it wasn't fair to everybody or something.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I think it's a ripoff... You pay $20, and all you really get is like a shirt and stuff, then you can access parts of the site and whatnot... It's sweet if you can meet them after a show, but the membership only lasts a year. If you don't go to a show in that year, then you have to pay $20 again to keep being a member just to see them at a show.

[Storm In A Teacup]

Is Sum 41 recording anything new?

I bet BassicBassist knows. :p

-Kripes (remember me?)

[Jessizzle]

I always wanted to be an aquacadet, you get some pretty cool stuff, I mean most bands sell their shirt for 15-20$, plus you get stickers and the like. and the bragging rights, like HEy! Im an aquacadet! Bow to me sucka! or something along thoes lines...

[yourstruly]

I think it's a ripoff... You pay $20, and all you really get is like a shirt and stuff, then you can access parts of the site and whatnot... It's sweet if you can meet them after a show, but the membership only lasts a year. If you don't go to a show in that year, then you have to pay $20 again to keep being a member just to see them at a show.
I hate stuff like that. For you guys it's $20, but for me it would be more like $50.

[bassist_for_a_band]

Yea dude one time I let myself pay $20 for some green day fan club thing... All I ever got for it was a shirt, some crappy wristband that fell off right away, an air freshener, and a little membership card. It was such a waste.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Proof that Stevo has a heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajT2TDc5V-4

lmao

[yourstruly]

Proof that Stevo has a heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajT2TDc5V-4

lmao:lol:

[TheBassicBassist]

Is Sum 41 recording anything new?

I bet BassicBassist knows. :p

-Kripes (remember me?)

Yes, I remember you, and no they're not recording yet, but Deryck is writing right now...according to the band themselves, Deryck is writing and Stevo and Cone are just lying around being bums, but I assume that they will start writing once they've got an idea of which direction their new album will take them.

[Storm In A Teacup]

Cool. I'll pick the new album up the day it comes out (whenever that is).

[bassist_for_a_band]

Proof that Stevo has a heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajT2TDc5V-4

lmao
They played that at the Go Chuck Yourself show


on stage they hoisted a hugeass white sheet, and projected the movie on it... like a movie theatre, but not quite a screen. it was like a ginormous bedsheet or something

i saw it on youtube though, too

[TheBassicBassist]

They played that at the Go Chuck Yourself show


on stage they hoisted a hugeass white sheet, and projected the movie on it... like a movie theatre, but not quite a screen. it was like a ginormous bedsheet or something

i saw it on youtube though, too

Them posting those videos and ditching the Goon Platoon pisses me off man because this is my first year to join and I joined after their show here, so the meet and greet wasn't worth anything to me and so the only thing I had as a member were those videos. So I paid 15 bucks to watch videos on youtube...great.

[bassist_for_a_band]

But on the site, all of the Goon Platoon content still needs a login, other than the Q&A. I actually just asked a few questions, I hope they answer them...
But like I said, that's the only GP thing available to the public. It doesn't seem like they're closing it or changing it or anything

[chumpradio]

My band are playing Grab The Devil By The Horns... as the intro for our gig tonight, just because we find it hilarious doing the synchronised guitar movements and singing the high pitched "Yeaaaaaaaaah!" part.
It should be pretty stupid.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Haha, nice Chris. You should do Pain for Pleasure. Kick *** fun song.

[chumpradio]

It was great!
We were all laughing when we did the synchronised guitar movements, and the crowd were all laughing/dancing/having a good time.

[TheBassicBassist]

But on the site, all of the Goon Platoon content still needs a login, other than the Q&A. I actually just asked a few questions, I hope they answer them...
But like I said, that's the only GP thing available to the public. It doesn't seem like they're closing it or changing it or anything

they will change it, I promise

EDIT: Also, I saw something on ET last night about Deryck and Avril getting married this month, so...I guess after dating since they were in diapers they finally decided to get with it

[Neoteric]

I've not heard Sum 41 in ages. I have the same name as Deryck except it's spelt differently.

[TheBassicBassist]

I've not heard Sum 41 in ages. I have the same name as Deryck except it's spelt differently.

So your name is Deryck Whibly? because if it's just one or the other then that's not very interesting

[Bad Blood]

lol i used to think his real name was bizzy d

when i was little :(

[Neoteric]

So your name is Deryck Whibly? because if it's just one or the other then that's not very interesting
Well it's Derek but not Whibly :(

[111mike]

I look forward to sum41's future, I hope the next album is as good as their others.

[Bad Blood]

yeah without dave though, it's going to be interesting

[bassist_for_a_band]

Well it's Derek but not Whibly :(
a lot of people are named derek.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I look forward to sum41's future, I hope the next album is as good as their others.
its a big mix of different sounds
ive heard "classic sum 41, but better"

i know itll kick ***

[DJ Ducksauce]

EDIT: Also, I saw something on ET last night about Deryck and Avril getting married this month, so...I guess after dating since they were in diapers they finally decided to get with it
Haha, I didn't even know they were dating. Well actually, no, I did, but forgot all about it.

Haha Avril Whibley!

[bassist_for_a_band]

I heard their wedding date was August 26th

or rather, read online
on like a deryck or avril fansite or something

[TheBassicBassist]

a lot of people are named derek.

yeah...you'd think someone would know whether anyone cares or not wouldn't you?

Haha, I didn't even know they were dating. Well actually, no, I did, but forgot all about it.

Haha Avril Whibley!

yeah, avril whibley...that's a very...atractive name...

[DJ Ducksauce]

So apparently they're already married according to Extra.

And he has some blonde in his hair now or something.


Ooh, piczors.

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril-Lavigne%2C-wed-fellow-m.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures2.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures3.jpg

Canadian pop star Avril Lavigne, wed fellow musician Deryck Whibley, lead singer of Canadian band Sum 41, in California on Saturday..

At the outdoor, non-denominational ceremony, Lavigne was walked down the aisle by her father, John, to Mendelssohn's "Wedding March." She wore a Vera Wang gown and carried a bouquet of white roses reports People Magazine.

The couple said their vows under an awning decorated with white flowers in front of 110 guests, including family and friends..

Once the groom had kissed the bride, guests tossed rose petals at the newlyweds as they walked back up the aisle reports People Magazine.

After the wedding, guests were to be treated to an outdoor cocktail hour before the reception, including a sit-down dinner, under a tent on the estate.


The couple's first dance is expected to be to the Goo Goo Dolls' "Iris."


Lavigne, a native of Napanee, Ontario, and Whibley, of Toronto, have been dating since early in 2004. Deryck had proposed to Avril in Venice, Italy in June of 2005, during her European tour.

Star Magazine reported that yesterday Avril, and Whibley, were scheduled to become man and wife shortly after 6 p.m. Pacific time, at the ten-acre Hahn Estate -- formerly known as "Lilly Belle" -- in Montecito, Calif., just a few miles down the road from Oprah Winfrey's spread.

A source told Star that outside of the couple's family members and closest friends, the only show-biz celebrities on hand were members of the couple's respective bands.

"There looked to be fifteen security guards patrolling around the exterior of the estate, which has a long, winding driveway leading from the entranceway to the grounds where the ceremony took place," an eyewitness tells Star.

"There was a huge tent with red velvet curtains set up on the premises, and they had a big generator out on the main road supplying extra power for the affair.

"A jazz band was hired to entertain the guests. And Avril and Deryck couldn't have picked a lovelier day for their wedding -- the temperature was in the mid-80s and the sun was shining brightly."

In the days before the scheduled ceremony, the couple reportedly had been staying at the exclusive San Ysidro Ranch, a chi-chi resort nestled in the Montecito foothills near the Pacific Ocean. The Ranch's top suite, the Eucalyptus, goes for $3,990 a night!

[Storm In A Teacup]

Haha, I made news of this.

[bassist_for_a_band]

So apparently they're already married according to Extra.

And he has some blonde in his hair now or something.


Ooh, piczors.

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril-Lavigne%2C-wed-fellow-m.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures2.jpg

http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril%20Lavigne%20%20Deryck%20Whibley%20wedding%20 pictures3.jpg

Does anyone know why the 2nd 3rd and 4th links take me to a search for "chyna x pac tape"???

[Bad Blood]

lmao

[Fish]

lamo

:smoke:

[DJ Ducksauce]

Does anyone know why the 2nd 3rd and 4th links take me to a search for "chyna x pac tape"???
Huh, they worked earlier. I guess they were taken down.

/searches again.

[Excursions]

Is that guy on that teenage drama show One Tree Hill?

[DJ Ducksauce]

What?

No. Deryck is in Sum 41.

The guy on One Tree Hill is Chad Michael-Murray. Or Chad-Michael Murray. Something like that. He's married to Sophia Bush or Sophie Bush or something like that. She's hot. She's also the one that plays the brunette on one tree hill. Brooke I think.

[TheBassicBassist]

Is that guy on that teenage drama show One Tree Hill?

there has never been a word for how stupid you are

[Fish]

ouch, pwnge

[Excursions]

there has never been a word for how stupid you are

Not using capital letters or full stops is "stupider" I feel.


http://www.celebrities.pl/chad_michael_murray/chad_michael7.jpg
http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril-Lavigne%2C-wed-fellow-m.jpg

Those two fags look similar. If Henry Rollins and John Doe can do acting, there could have been the possiblity this Sum 41 person could have been the same person on that show.

I guess since i'm not the biggest Sum 41 fan EVA! I don't know all these things.

[bassist_for_a_band]

Huh, they worked earlier. I guess they were taken down.

/searches again.
its something with my internet
or computer

when i click your link, i get a search engine
when i click pictures on this one site, i get the same search engine

sometimes i get an "error" message

internet explorer messes up too

[DJ Ducksauce]

Hmm weird. What internet browser do you use?

Pics 2, 3, and 4 don't work for me either now, but it doesn't go to a search engine...

[bassist_for_a_band]

Not using capital letters or full stops is "stupider" I feel.


http://www.celebrities.pl/chad_michael_murray/chad_michael7.jpg
http://thebosh.com/archives/upload/2006/07/Avril-Lavigne%2C-wed-fellow-m.jpg

Those two fags look similar. If Henry Rollins and John Doe can do acting, there could have been the possiblity this Sum 41 person could have been the same person on that show.

I guess since i'm not the biggest Sum 41 fan EVA! I don't know all these things.
It's the internet. We know what he says whether or not he has capitalization.

And they barely look similar. It'd be hard as hell to mix them up.


Apparently, you're not a Sum 41 fan at all. So get the **** out of the thread

[Excursions]

So much hostility.

Srsly, just don't get involved. My asian friend answered my question and it's all fine and dandy and i'll now leave. I think it's only fair to get my rebuttal to that fellows post, which I have. K.

I never said I didn't like Sum 41. Read his usetitle.

[DJ Ducksauce]

Haha, I made news of this.
Where? I didn't find it in News.

/looks again

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Aw, I thought this was the CT and i'm like, wow there's a lot of new posts...

=\

[DJ Ducksauce]

Woo, Chelsea's first post in the Sum 41 thread!


PC++ eh?

[Fish]

LAM frekin' O at chels

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Woo, Chelsea's first post in the Sum 41 thread!


PC++ eh?

lol, not yet.

Send me some good stuff if they're good, k? :)

Dave: :cool:

[DJ Ducksauce]

mmk, I'll up All Killer No Filler and Does This Look Infected? in Daily Upload.

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Okay, thx. :)

I won't be able to download until next month though probably. I'm thinking late August we trade comps.

[DJ Ducksauce]

oic, I can wait till then then.

Haha then then.

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Lolz, you trickster.

>_>

[Fish]

i got my brother the infected CD for christmas, and they're now his favorite band, and he bought all the Cd's and dvd's and got a t-shirt.

[DJ Ducksauce]

DTLI pwns hard.

DTLI>AKNF>HHOP>Chuck

imo

Happy Live Surprise is pretty sweet.

[Fish]

i liked chuck

[DJ Ducksauce]

I liked it, but it was a big let down for me. I didn't care much for the direction they were going in. They lost all the catchy hooks and fun. It was too serious and I dunno.

I love Pieces though.