Official Sum 41 Thread

[BassPlayer222]

i miss old sum 41, back with there spikey hair, red white and blue wristbands, and famous stars and straps shirts. All Killer No Filler was my first punkish album and i loved Sum 41 as they were my favorite band for a good 3 years. No matter how hard i try i can't get into the new "metal/rock" sum 41. What happened to the bouncy punk pop songs they used to write like "In Too Deep" "Fat Lip" "Makes No Difference" and "Nothing On My Back". They were fun loving goof balls and that's what made them so cool. Now there all "serious". That's what we have punk rock and emo for. Don't get me wrong, theyve really grown as musicians i just wish they didnt change so much and lose there punk pop ways to do it.

[hopeulikemygenocide]

i miss old sum 41, back with there spikey hair, red white and blue wristbands, and famous stars and straps shirts. All Killer No Filler was my first punkish album and i loved Sum 41 as they were my favorite band for a good 3 years. No matter how hard i try i can't get into the new "metal/rock" sum 41. What happened to the bouncy punk pop songs they used to write like "In Too Deep" "Fat Lip" "Makes No Difference" and "Nothing On My Back". They were fun loving goof balls and that's what made them so cool. Now there all "serious". That's what we have punk rock and emo for. Don't get me wrong, theyve really grown as musicians i just wish they didnt change so much and lose there punk pop ways to do it.

well they're attitude is still very much the same as it was in the old days, you notice this when you see them live now. But I can't say I agree with you, I prefer new Sum 41, as I've said before in this thread, Sum 41's music evolved with my taste, so I'm happy about that. I still love old Sum 41 but I think songs like Makes No Difference and In Too Deep are just a little bit too poppy for me to handle sometimes, depends what kind of mood I'm in.

This thread is now 41 pages long. That's awesome. :thumb:

[Rancid Dan]

TheBassicBassist 407
metal_milita 51
hopeulikemygenocide 42
himynameistweek 39
bassist_for_a_band 34

:lol: @ the difference between 1st and the rest...

[hopeulikemygenocide]

:lol: yeah basicbassist is a true fan.

[TheBassicBassist]

Gonna see them the 10th of july. Cant wait.
Chuck is a good album, but i prefered does this look infected.

I saw them live, it's going to be a good show, I promise.

[TheBassicBassist]

i miss old sum 41, back with there spikey hair, red white and blue wristbands, and famous stars and straps shirts. All Killer No Filler was my first punkish album and i loved Sum 41 as they were my favorite band for a good 3 years. No matter how hard i try i can't get into the new "metal/rock" sum 41. What happened to the bouncy punk pop songs they used to write like "In Too Deep" "Fat Lip" "Makes No Difference" and "Nothing On My Back". They were fun loving goof balls and that's what made them so cool. Now there all "serious". That's what we have punk rock and emo for. Don't get me wrong, theyve really grown as musicians i just wish they didnt change so much and lose there punk pop ways to do it.

they just got into other types of music, thus becoming DTLI and C and there you go

[TheBassicBassist]

well they're attitude is still very much the same as it was in the old days, you notice this when you see them live now. But I can't say I agree with you, I prefer new Sum 41, as I've said before in this thread, Sum 41's music evolved with my taste, so I'm happy about that. I still love old Sum 41 but I think songs like Makes No Difference and In Too Deep are just a little bit too poppy for me to handle sometimes, depends what kind of mood I'm in.

This thread is now 41 pages long. That's awesome. :thumb:

for me, it wasn't that their music evolved with my taste, it was that my taste evolved with their music, I listened to DTLI and them my brother introduced me to Shadows Fall for the second time and then I loved metal, the first time I couldn't stand it, now I listen to bands like Killswitch Engage, Between The Buried And Me, Bury Your Dead, and some other great metal artists, but I never got into rock, it makes me mad, I like Pop-punk, punk, and metal, weird, but DTLI and C are the albums that helped me on my way to heavier things. This is why they are my favorite ever bands, they kept me from rapping with rappers and popping with poppers.

[TheBassicBassist]

TheBassicBassist 407
metal_milita 51
hopeulikemygenocide 42
himynameistweek 39
bassist_for_a_band 34

:lol: @ the difference between 1st and the rest...

first of all, it is awesome that we are on the 41st page, can you believe this thread was almost closed, weirdo mods. Anyways, yes, I do have way more posts than anyone else, but that says things. I just love them to much. They've done things for me, see previous post.

[TheBassicBassist]

:lol: yeah basicbassist is a true fan.

just so that you know, my name has two s's on basic, making it bassic, not like I really care, but you keep saying basic, it's unimportant though

yeah, I am a true fan, my background in my computer is sum 41, my screen saver is sum 41, my avatar/title is sum 41, my name on my comp is Sum 41 Mosh, (though it's not my screen name, I should make it that, but I have three already) and I...yeah, I think you guys have the idea.

[chops]

saw them a few months back. it was awsome. when deryk was singing pieces he was at the last line where he goes "That I am better of on my- *boom*" someone threw a shoe at him and he fell over. he then got up and said " it's ok i didn't need that tooth anyways" . quite a funny experience and i thought i'd share that with you guys because i'm bored.

[hopeulikemygenocide]

saw them a few months back. it was awsome. when deryk was singing pieces he was at the last line where he goes "That I am better of on my- *boom*" someone threw a shoe at him and he fell over. he then got up and said " it's ok i didn't need that tooth anyways" . quite a funny experience and i thought i'd share that with you guys because i'm bored.

That's cool that you were at that concert, I read a review of it. It was in Toronto right?

[hopeulikemygenocide]

just so that you know, my name has two s's on basic, making it bassic, not like I really care, but you keep saying basic, it's unimportant though

yeah, I am a true fan, my background in my computer is sum 41, my screen saver is sum 41, my avatar/title is sum 41, my name on my comp is Sum 41 Mosh, (though it's not my screen name, I should make it that, but I have three already) and I...yeah, I think you guys have the idea.

GRRR I hate being corrected. Oh well my fault. I'm just used to correcting other people, not the other way around.

[TheBassicBassist]

saw them a few months back. it was awsome. when deryk was singing pieces he was at the last line where he goes "That I am better of on my- *boom*" someone threw a shoe at him and he fell over. he then got up and said " it's ok i didn't need that tooth anyways" . quite a funny experience and i thought i'd share that with you guys because i'm bored.

hmm...I hope that individual didn't want their shoe back

[TheBassicBassist]

GRRR I hate being corrected. Oh well my fault. I'm just used to correcting other people, not the other way around.

it's okay, it wasn't a big deal, if you kept saying basic I would've just been like ".....ok...ay....." and not cared at all.

[himynameistweek]

i'm still pissed that i didn't get to go to the show.

***.

[TheBassicBassist]

i'm still pissed that i didn't get to go to the show.

***.

sorry man, but there's nothing I can do about it, go see them in Kansas or something.

[TheBassicBassist]

Hey everyone, I finally got MSN Messenger, so everyone that I couldn't talk to before can now be talked to, leave me your AIMs or MSNs.

Everyone go to sumpieces.com they have alot of good vids and songs to download.

[chops]

whoa you ressurected the thread!

[TheBassicBassist]

whoa you ressurected the thread!

what do you mean?

[vote me]

sum 41 =the bassic bassist thread

[TheBassicBassist]

sum 41 =the bassic bassist thread

or the bassic bassist = sum 41 thread, that actually makes more sense but for goodness sake people, lets get some convos going, I can only hope that this thing stays open

who here has Make Sum Noize? I think it's their dvd live in Japan, not sure though

[chops]

i don't have it. what do you guys think of "some say" being the next single?
i think they could've had a better song, although it is still a good song.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I have Cross The T's and Gouge Your Eyes... It's pretty sweet, actually. I let my friend borrow it, and one day I asked for it back and he gave me the case. He said the DVD was around there somewhere. I'm still pissed I haven't gotten it back.


I want to get the Introduction To Destruction DVD, it sounds so kickass

[chops]

what was the dvd that came with dtli? because my friend got one when he bought it. when i bought it, i didnt get one. :(

[TheBassicBassist]

what was the dvd that came with dtli? because my friend got one when he bought it. when i bought it, i didnt get one. :(

yeah, with the unedited version it was Cross Your Ts and Gouge Your Eyes which was just a bunch of random video crap of them doing their thing. With the edited version it was them Live at the Astoria, it was a live show that was really short but really cool. Sucks that you didn't get one.

[TheBassicBassist]

i don't have it. what do you guys think of "some say" being the next single?
i think they could've had a better song, although it is still a good song.

I think I'm sick and ****ing tired of their slow songs getting nominated as singles, give me some No Reason dammit

[TheBassicBassist]

I have Cross The T's and Gouge Your Eyes... It's pretty sweet, actually. I let my friend borrow it, and one day I asked for it back and he gave me the case. He said the DVD was around there somewhere. I'm still pissed I haven't gotten it back.


I want to get the Introduction To Destruction DVD, it sounds so kickass

I would have to agree that ITD sounds really cool, I want it really bad. If someone lost my Sum 41 DVD I'd kill him like a peanut in a butter churn (I don't know why I said that)

[TheBassicBassist]

So guys, I'm going to camp for a week starting tommorrow and ending on saturday, this thread had better be on the first page when I get back, y'all hears?

[chops]

I think I'm sick and ****ing tired of their slow songs getting nominated as singles, give me some No Reason dammit


i agree, no reason would have been a good single. I know they would never have the bitter end as a single so that one is out of the question, but even open your eyes would have been a great single.

[Spoiled Blood]

Pieces is a good song, but then all the stupid girls who just watch MTV hear it and think 'OH MY GOD, I LOVE SUM 41!'

Then they'll download other Sum 41 songs, like The Bitter End, Open Your Eyes, Angels with dirty faces then think 'OH MY GOD, I HATE SUM 41!'

[chops]

wouldn't doubt it. does sum 41 get alot of air time on mtv? i dont get mtv where i live.

[Tjebby]

They do sometimes, I see them alot on MTV2, but not MTV. So its not like a lot of people watch it. Unless you get MTV2 free.

[noreason88]

sum 41 is my fav band and they need to relase a song like angels or no reason or open your eyes because pieces and some say are bad repreenataitons of the rest of the album. i dont watch mtv but on the radio station i listen to for rock were all to blame got minimal air time and that was prolly the best single of the 3 and 1 of the best of the album...if they wanted to sell out again wut was fine with me cuz idc but they coulda made another aknf album and not just release 2 of the 3 slowest songs from chuck. my view on chuck is also probably some wasted potential...and not enough guitar solos...

[TheBassicBassist]

i agree, no reason would have been a good single. I know they would never have the bitter end as a single so that one is out of the question, but even open your eyes would have been a great single.

truer words were never spoken

by the way everybody, this was on the second page...shame :D

[TheBassicBassist]

Pieces is a good song, but then all the stupid girls who just watch MTV hear it and think 'OH MY GOD, I LOVE SUM 41!'

Then they'll download other Sum 41 songs, like The Bitter End, Open Your Eyes, Angels with dirty faces then think 'OH MY GOD, I HATE SUM 41!'

hmm, n00b with a brain, bassic bassist likes this very much

[TheBassicBassist]

wouldn't doubt it. does sum 41 get alot of air time on mtv? i dont get mtv where i live.

I went to this cabin once and that had stallite and The Fuse played Pieces every day about four times, other than that I don't know

[TheBassicBassist]

sum 41 is my fav band and they need to relase a song like angels or no reason or open your eyes because pieces and some say are bad repreenataitons of the rest of the album. i dont watch mtv but on the radio station i listen to for rock were all to blame got minimal air time and that was prolly the best single of the 3 and 1 of the best of the album...if they wanted to sell out again wut was fine with me cuz idc but they coulda made another aknf album and not just release 2 of the 3 slowest songs from chuck. my view on chuck is also probably some wasted potential...and not enough guitar solos...

try to use less initials for normal conversation, you can use it for album titles, and spell "prolly" as "Probably", I promise that the veterans will treat you more normal if you do

your views are close to correct, but I don't think that they had wasted potential so said, I think they did a great job

[bassist_for_a_band]

I know Fat Lip was on TRL... but i read about that in their bio or something, it mentioned them celebrating with pizza and pop...

i watch mtv and mtv2, and never see sum 41. i dont even see them at all on tv... it sucks.

lol yea, people would like pieces, but hear the GOOD songs like bitter end, welcome to hell, no reason, and were all to blame, and think sum 41 isn't that good... oh well, they're rock. but chuck is sweet.


i want to see another sum 41 concert... i hope they come back soon
and i hope my idiot friend returns my frickin dvd already... im like suffering from sum 41 withdrawal... and i want ITD...

[obojon]

going by their dvd Sake Bombs and Happy Endings, they have alot of energy and are a faily solid live band. In terms of backing vocals, i'd love to see some of their songs played closer to the CD versions (eg No Reason, Thanks For Nothing, Still Waiting...), i can't see why cone wouldn't love to really get into the songs and scream along with them like on the CDs. "THESE EYES have seen no conviction... JUST LIES and more contradiction..."

oh well. my one gripe is deryck's (sp?) voice, obviously you're not gonna be the same live as in the studio but man some songs he should really work on.

[Ganondorf]

Any of you guys feel you don't get the respect you deserve? Then join Gor'f Gangsters, and all that will change. Juts put Gorf's Gangsters in your user title and get ready to kick ***.

Oh, and just so some whiney loser dosen't complain, I'll try to kepp this post on topic.

Sum 41's song with Iggy Pop was ok, but got old quick. And the new video is pretty emo, but the song is ok.

[Tjebby]

They were a good live band... Had the crowd was bad though... just sat around. Except for about twenty people, where we moshed.

[Bad Blood]

yeah big up da gorf gangsters!

i havent heard the iggy pop and sum41 song. i might download it

[bassist_for_a_band]

going by their dvd Sake Bombs and Happy Endings, they have alot of energy and are a faily solid live band. In terms of backing vocals, i'd love to see some of their songs played closer to the CD versions (eg No Reason, Thanks For Nothing, Still Waiting...), i can't see why cone wouldn't love to really get into the songs and scream along with them like on the CDs. "THESE EYES have seen no conviction... JUST LIES and more contradiction..."

oh well. my one gripe is deryck's (sp?) voice, obviously you're not gonna be the same live as in the studio but man some songs he should really work on.
when i went to go chuck yourself, his voice sounded fine

[TheBassicBassist]

I know Fat Lip was on TRL... but i read about that in their bio or something, it mentioned them celebrating with pizza and pop...

i watch mtv and mtv2, and never see sum 41. i dont even see them at all on tv... it sucks.

lol yea, people would like pieces, but hear the GOOD songs like bitter end, welcome to hell, no reason, and were all to blame, and think sum 41 isn't that good... oh well, they're rock. but chuck is sweet.


i want to see another sum 41 concert... i hope they come back soon
and i hope my idiot friend returns my frickin dvd already... im like suffering from sum 41 withdrawal... and i want ITD...

I don't think that the audience for the show here was that big, but we packed a punch, and if they come back then I WILL BE THERE!!!

mmm, Sum 41ness.....

[TheBassicBassist]

going by their dvd Sake Bombs and Happy Endings, they have alot of energy and are a faily solid live band. In terms of backing vocals, i'd love to see some of their songs played closer to the CD versions (eg No Reason, Thanks For Nothing, Still Waiting...), i can't see why cone wouldn't love to really get into the songs and scream along with them like on the CDs. "THESE EYES have seen no conviction... JUST LIES and more contradiction..."

oh well. my one gripe is deryck's (sp?) voice, obviously you're not gonna be the same live as in the studio but man some songs he should really work on.

no man, they are shitload better live now than they were when they made their dvds, they are actually better live now then they are on album, so loud...yay!

[TheBassicBassist]

Any of you guys feel you don't get the respect you deserve? Then join Gor'f Gangsters, and all that will change. Juts put Gorf's Gangsters in your user title and get ready to kick ***.

Oh, and just so some whiney loser dosen't complain, I'll try to kepp this post on topic.

Sum 41's song with Iggy Pop was ok, but got old quick. And the new video is pretty emo, but the song is ok.

What the poopystick?.....I don't understand, and which new video are you refering to? Some Say?

[TheBassicBassist]

They were a good live band... Had the crowd was bad though... just sat around. Except for about twenty people, where we moshed.

Half of our audience was my style and the other half was oposite of it all, but I'd say we left a good impression, Moshing is a new personall favorite hobby

[TheBassicBassist]

new password for french41.com's mediaclub is sum41goldmember, download all kinds of cool junk

[himynameistweek]

i hate moshing. tulsa's music scene is so full of hardcore kids that go to shows just to mosh, it's lame. i'd rather just enjoy the band.

[Ganondorf]

What the poopystick?.....I don't understand, and which new video are you refering to? Some Say?

The one where the singer is walking down the street, and the bass player is in that perfect family thingy.

[TheBassicBassist]

i hate moshing. tulsa's music scene is so full of hardcore kids that go to shows just to mosh, it's lame. i'd rather just enjoy the band.

I'd rather just do both myself

[TheBassicBassist]

The one where the singer is walking down the street, and the bass player is in that perfect family thingy.

Yeah, that's Pieces

[bassist_for_a_band]

lol cone looks so different in pieces
but hes such a beast

[bassist_for_a_band]

DUDE!!!

The other night, I had this dream-

Every night, I'd hear really loud Sum 41 music outside. Of course, I had no objection. One night, I went out to see who/what it was. Sum 41 drove by in a little blue car. I chased them down. They got out, and I said that I play bass. They went to my house to see/hear me play.
That's all I remember.

Then, today, my band had band practice. I got my amp and bass and stuff, and went out on the front porch to wait to be picked up. I walked out the back door, and I was going to the driveway towards the front of the house, a guy drove buy in a jeep, blasting Fat Lip!! It took me a second to realize what that meant. When I realized it, I'm like "Oh ****!!" then I ran down the driveway. I had my bass and amp and a pop and a PSP, so I didn't go very fast. Unfortunately, the guy drove away before I could see who it was.

[TheBassicBassist]

lol cone looks so different in pieces
but hes such a beast

What the crap??? I've never seen you say something like that before, it was really...random and goofy.........yeah

[TheBassicBassist]

DUDE!!!

The other night, I had this dream-

Every night, I'd hear really loud Sum 41 music outside. Of course, I had no objection. One night, I went out to see who/what it was. Sum 41 drove by in a little blue car. I chased them down. They got out, and I said that I play bass. They went to my house to see/hear me play.
That's all I remember.

Then, today, my band had band practice. I got my amp and bass and stuff, and went out on the front porch to wait to be picked up. I walked out the back door, and I was going to the driveway towards the front of the house, a guy drove buy in a jeep, blasting Fat Lip!! It took me a second to realize what that meant. When I realized it, I'm like "Oh ****!!" then I ran down the driveway. I had my bass and amp and a pop and a PSP, so I didn't go very fast. Unfortunately, the guy drove away before I could see who it was.

That sucks for you, but is awesome that crap like that actually happens, but the guys are in Europe right now...so, I don't think you would have had much luck meeting the guys....and, if I ever met them I'd force them to make me an eternal groupy...mosh

[thebigyin]

Heyloo guys 'n' girls. Thank GOD there is actually a thread for Sum 41. One thing really bugs me about the band: NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE THEM!!! This is immensely irritating for me, as they were (along with The Offspring and Limp Bizkit) one of three main bands that got me REALLY into Rock music in the first place. I think they're great.

My fav album is probably "Does This Look Infected?", probably because I prefer heavier rock stuff. I also think the band's uncommon mix of Metal and Punk was pretty admirable on this album, as I like some stuff from both genres. However, I do think that at times it sounded like a punk rock band trying to be metal, and I suppose in a way it sorta was... this sounded much more apparent on "Chuck", which is in my opinion the band's worst album to date. This doesn't mean I think it's crap - I don't - but I think "...Infected" caught them at their best.

Also, is it just me, or is "The Bitter End" a complete Metallica rip-off??!! That intro is oddly reminiscent of "Blackened", and most of the rest of the song - ESPECIALLY the chorus - is a pretty accurate clone of "Battery". So much so that Derek manages to perfectly replicate Hetfield's savage growl of "BAT-TE-RY!!!" in his version, "BIT-TER--END!!!".

But this aside, I am genuinely a fan of Sum 41. Without them, I probably would not be the avid rock-consumer that I am today.

[TheBassicBassist]

Heyloo guys 'n' girls. Thank GOD there is actually a thread for Sum 41. One thing really bugs me about the band: NOBODY SEEMS TO LIKE THEM!!! This is immensely irritating for me, as they were (along with The Offspring and Limp Bizkit) one of three main bands that got me REALLY into Rock music in the first place. I think they're great.

My fav album is probably "Does This Look Infected?", probably because I prefer heavier rock stuff. I also think the band's uncommon mix of Metal and Punk was pretty admirable on this album, as I like some stuff from both genres. However, I do think that at times it sounded like a punk rock band trying to be metal, and I suppose in a way it sorta was... this sounded much more apparent on "Chuck", which is in my opinion the band's worst album to date. This doesn't mean I think it's crap - I don't - but I think "...Infected" caught them at their best.

Also, is it just me, or is "The Bitter End" a complete Metallica rip-off??!! That intro is oddly reminiscent of "Blackened", and most of the rest of the song - ESPECIALLY the chorus - is a pretty accurate clone of "Battery". So much so that Derek manages to perfectly replicate Hetfield's savage growl of "BAT-TE-RY!!!" in his version, "BIT-TER--END!!!".

But this aside, I am genuinely a fan of Sum 41. Without them, I probably would not be the avid rock-consumer that I am today.

First off I'd like to welcome you to our thread good little n00b, in this thread you will not be criticized, insulted, or anything else, we value your opinion and we would like to hear what you have to say, in case you don't already know, this thread is basically my home base, it's almost the only place I post anymore. As long as I'm still on this site there will always be at least one Sum 41 Thread out there.

DTLI? was definitely some cool crap, but Chuck wasn't their worst album, they don't have a worst album, sorry, where I value your opinion I don't think that you are quite right about this. Sorry if I offended you by saying that.

Yes, we've all heard that The Bitter End is a remake of Battery, and personally, we don't care anymore, this just proves to us that they are getting more talented and more able to right like bands that others like already, GO SUMS!!!

I would also be nothing without them, they are basically my life. I love these guys.

[Bad Blood]

I really like Sum41, i think DTLI was an awesome album. When i first got it, it was all i could listen too. Also i think Chuck is a good album, its a bit of a change but i think its good. They have a good 'variety' of music, its awesome.

[chumpradio]

I'm seeing them on Wednesday.
I really hope that they don't play much from Chuck, I honestly thought it was a terrible album with only a few good songs.

[PuNk]

Going back to the original topic....Sum 41 is the greatest rock band EVER!!!!! I love all of their songs...and in particular the entire CD of All Killer No Filler. I do think tht Sum 41 and Simplae Plan and Unwritten Law should all do a concert together...and who knows...may b some MCR??? N E wayz........ Sum 41 is AWSOME!! GO SUM 41 CHILDREN OF THE BEAST EMBRACE TO SCORN AND HATE THE HUMAN RACE CONSUME THE LIGHT THT HUGS THE EARTH AND AID THE WOMB IN GIVING BIRTH TO A GROUP THT WILL APPEAR AND GUIDE YOU IN THIS FINAL YEAR THE DARK ARMIES SOON WILL COME.....WHEN THE SUM IS 41. :thumb:

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Going back to the original topic....Sum 41 is the greatest rock band EVER!!!!! I love all of their songs...and in particular the entire CD of All Killer No Filler. I do think tht Sum 41 and Simplae Plan and Unwritten Law should all do a concert together...and who knows...may b some MCR??? N E wayz........ Sum 41 is AWSOME!! GO SUM 41 CHILDREN OF THE BEAST EMBRACE TO SCORN AND HATE THE HUMAN RACE CONSUME THE LIGHT THT HUGS THE EARTH AND AID THE WOMB IN GIVING BIRTH TO A GROUP THT WILL APPEAR AND GUIDE YOU IN THIS FINAL YEAR THE DARK ARMIES SOON WILL COME.....WHEN THE SUM IS 41. :thumb:
:amaze: simple plan and sum 41 dont mix at all

[TheBassicBassist]

I really like Sum41, i think DTLI was an awesome album. When i first got it, it was all i could listen too. Also i think Chuck is a good album, its a bit of a change but i think its good. They have a good 'variety' of music, its awesome.

Indeed their variety is alot more interesting than most bands.

[TheBassicBassist]

I'm seeing them on Wednesday.
I really hope that they don't play much from Chuck, I honestly thought it was a terrible album with only a few good songs.

Well, since it's the Go Chuck Yourself tour I can't say that your "hope" will come true, but I swear to you that it won't matter if you like the song they're playing or not, you'll have fun at their live show...you have my complete word

[TheBassicBassist]

Going back to the original topic....Sum 41 is the greatest rock band EVER!!!!! I love all of their songs...and in particular the entire CD of All Killer No Filler. I do think tht Sum 41 and Simplae Plan and Unwritten Law should all do a concert together...and who knows...may b some MCR??? N E wayz........ Sum 41 is AWSOME!! GO SUM 41 CHILDREN OF THE BEAST EMBRACE TO SCORN AND HATE THE HUMAN RACE CONSUME THE LIGHT THT HUGS THE EARTH AND AID THE WOMB IN GIVING BIRTH TO A GROUP THT WILL APPEAR AND GUIDE YOU IN THIS FINAL YEAR THE DARK ARMIES SOON WILL COME.....WHEN THE SUM IS 41. :thumb:

dude, I'm only going to say this once, Simple Plan and Sum 41 ****ing hate each other, you should know that

Unwritten Law and Sum 41 toured with each other for mulitple months already, it was awesome, I saw it live.

I don't think MCR and S41 would have an easy time getting the same audience members.....

don't ever say N E wayz again or I will shoot you :D, just a fair warning, and please, refrain from ever hitting your Caps Lock button again for that length of time

other than that, welcome to the S41 thread, I hope you come back again

[TheBassicBassist]

:amaze: simple plan and sum 41 dont mix at all

precisely what I mean

[TheBassicBassist]

I got the DVD Introduction To Destruction finally and the London, Astoria concert is so much cooler unedited than it is edited from DTLI? because in the edited version they cut out the entire song Handle This because there's two girld kissing the entire song, stupid...Anyways, this really hot chick with giant breasts flashes Dave in the Fat Lip Video Outtakes and he has a size contest with her, I thought it was hilarious

[obojon]

why do simple plan and sum 41 hate each other?

[Untitled]

why do simple plan and sum 41 hate each other?
Sum41 are a good rock and roll band, and simple plan are pop and give canadians a bad name?

Ive been listening to old sum41 a lot recently, and it pwns Chuck so much, that album sucks compaird to DTLI. DTLI is there best theyve done, is so awesome. I stoped listening to it though, as my cd is a bit broke.

[chops]

i like all their albums equally.

[BassPlayer222]

id have to say:

AKNF>DTLI>HHOP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chuck

mainly because AKNF was the album that got me into punk and punk pop and just good music in general, DTLI is pretty close musically but it usually wont fit every mood im in, but is a great album. HHOP was a great album for such young kids they were at the time but im glad they improved, and finally i hate the new Rock and Metal Sum 41 so Chuck is by far the worst. IMO

[TheBassicBassist]

why do simple plan and sum 41 hate each other?

because one is a gay preppy poser bitch group (simple plan, I still like them, but that's what they are...

and one is an amazing group with complicated parts and amazing songs...

besides, SP complains too much

[TheBassicBassist]

Sum41 are a good rock and roll band, and simple plan are pop and give canadians a bad name?

Ive been listening to old sum41 a lot recently, and it pwns Chuck so much, that album sucks compaird to DTLI. DTLI is there best theyve done, is so awesome. I stoped listening to it though, as my cd is a bit broke.

I have nothing to say for this, you've never said anything like this about Sum 41 before, very odd of you

[TheBassicBassist]

i like all their albums equally.

same here man, I like everything they've ever done, DVD's, CD's, Video's...everything

[Bad Blood]

DTLI is an awesome album. And i agree with it being their best album.
But still i think all the albums are all almost equally as good, i just think that DTLI stands out a bit more. Song are more varietied.

[TheBassicBassist]

id have to say:

AKNF>DTLI>HHOP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chuck

mainly because AKNF was the album that got me into punk and punk pop and just good music in general, DTLI is pretty close musically but it usually wont fit every mood im in, but is a great album. HHOP was a great album for such young kids they were at the time but im glad they improved, and finally i hate the new Rock and Metal Sum 41 so Chuck is by far the worst. IMO

okay, first off, wtf is IMO???? and second, if you like DTLI how can you say that you hate Chuck so much?

[Bad Blood]

okay, first off, wtf is IMO????

In My Opinion

[BassPlayer222]

IMO= In My Opinion

and i hate Chuck so much becuase i hate most metal, and in Chuck they almost completely lose there punk pop side, which is the part i love most about them. Does this look infected still had that punk pop sound mixed into the rock. Chuck for the most part doesent. Thus i hate Chuck.

[TheBassicBassist]

DTLI is an awesome album. And i agree with it being their best album.
But still i think all the albums are all almost equally as good, i just think that DTLI stands out a bit more. Song are more varietied.

as far as variety in different kinds of songs Chuck wins, but DTLI is second very closely, AKNF was okay as far as variety goes, but HHOP was either metalish harder stuff or pop-punk, not too much variety what so ever

[Bad Blood]

yeah, i like Chuck a lot too because of that reason. I havent had much chance to listen to theirold stuff.

[TheBassicBassist]

IMO= In My Opinion

and i hate Chuck so much becuase i hate most metal, and in Chuck they almost completely lose there punk pop side, which is the part i love most about them. Does this look infected still had that punk pop sound mixed into the rock. Chuck for the most part doesent. Thus i hate Chuck.'

that's funny since Chuck is entirely Rock except for The Bitter End and Welcome To Hell

[BassPlayer222]

i just cant stand Chuck, way too serious for Sum 41. AKNF is my favorite by far.

[Bad Blood]

They did go all serious. I don't know why but Blink and Green day went serious too. I guess they matured a bit more :lol: yeah its different.

[BassPlayer222]

yes and it really annoyed me.....NOFX went serious too......all these good bands that i was really excited for a new album let me down by trying to be all "serious"

[Bad Blood]

I think all the bands influenced each other. Like it was the 'cool' thing to do. All of the older music by the bands is better.

[bassist_for_a_band]

Going back to the original topic....Sum 41 is the greatest rock band EVER!!!!! I love all of their songs...and in particular the entire CD of All Killer No Filler. I do think tht Sum 41 and Simplae Plan and Unwritten Law should all do a concert together...and who knows...may b some MCR??? N E wayz........ Sum 41 is AWSOME!! GO SUM 41 CHILDREN OF THE BEAST EMBRACE TO SCORN AND HATE THE HUMAN RACE CONSUME THE LIGHT THT HUGS THE EARTH AND AID THE WOMB IN GIVING BIRTH TO A GROUP THT WILL APPEAR AND GUIDE YOU IN THIS FINAL YEAR THE DARK ARMIES SOON WILL COME.....WHEN THE SUM IS 41. :thumb:


http://img50.echo.cx/img50/4642/11-thinger2.jpg

There's a minor problem there... Sum 41 kicks royal ***, but Simple Plan sucks monkey nuts. MCR sucks too.


And I'm sure we've all heard ITD, you don't have to read it to us.


and the dark armies then will come. not soon. they'll guide us through this final year, not in it.

[bassist_for_a_band]

at GCY, they played stuff from every album. it was sweet.

simple plan is a fake poser bitchy little ****ty group that gives canadians, and punk music, a bad name. sum 41 kicks *** and are sweet.

i want to get ITD... lol make me a copy of it will you
the dtli dvd is sweet but i wish it had more stuff and w/e

[GiB]

their guitarist(cant think of his name off the top of my head) is the **** he kiks arse

[bassist_for_a_band]

their guitarist(cant think of his name off the top of my head) is the **** he kiks arse
Dave Baksh (aka Dave Brownsound)

**** right he kicks ***.... best guitarist i've ever heard
actually I think Deryck is pretty good, too

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, Dave is ****ing awesome. I think hes way underrated too. Not too sure about Deryk though.

[BassPlayer222]

Yeah, Dave is ****ing awesome. I think hes way underrated too. Not too sure about Deryk though.

Derycks guitar ability is a little worse then Billie Joe's.....for singing and playing he's decent but not great......but unlike Green Day, Sum 41 have Dave who kicks major as's to also play guitar, i personally think Sum 41 have the best musiciainship lineup with the 4 members thing where one guitar player sings. Like bands such as The Offspring, Rancid, the Vines, etc. et.c

[Bad Blood]

yeah i agree with all of that. I quite like Deryks voice though.

[TheBassicBassist]

First things first, Deryck can run circles around Billie Joe's talent...

Dave Baksh is amazing...

I can't burn you ITD because it's a dvd and I can't do that on this comp, and I don't have blank dvds...

please stop insulting SP and MCR because if you continue then there's a possibility that this thread could be considered for closure again...

check out this stupid site: http://www.sum-ripoff.tk/ they say that Deryck is a rip-off from some guy from the Monkees just because they were born look alikes, what an ***

[himynameistweek]

deryck's actually a pretty good guitar player. not at dave's level, but pretty good. i've heard him play solos, metal riffs, etc. and he's got talent.

[chumpradio]

I saw them last night.
It was so amazing. They played a lot of older stuff, which was cool. I don't really like Chuck that much.
Makes No Difference was my favourite song of the night probably, or No Reason.

[BassPlayer222]

First things first, Deryck can run circles around Billie Joe's talent...

Dave Baksh is amazing...

I can't burn you ITD because it's a dvd and I can't do that on this comp, and I don't have blank dvds...

please stop insulting SP and MCR because if you continue then there's a possibility that this thread could be considered for closure again...

check out this stupid site: http://www.sum-ripoff.tk/ they say that Deryck is a rip-off from some guy from the Monkees just because they were born look alikes, what an ***

ok....billie joe and deryck are about equal, both are alot better then they lead on, and both sing while they play, although if i had to pick which one i would rather be i would pick deryck cuz he's dating Avril and shes hott :thumb:

[Bad Blood]

haha, id choose Billie Joe if i had to chose. I think mainly because he is a ****ing awesome performer. Born to perform.

[bassist_for_a_band]

First things first, Deryck can run circles around Billie Joe's talent...

Dave Baksh is amazing...

I can't burn you ITD because it's a dvd and I can't do that on this comp, and I don't have blank dvds...

please stop insulting SP and MCR because if you continue then there's a possibility that this thread could be considered for closure again...

check out this stupid site: http://www.sum-ripoff.tk/ they say that Deryck is a rip-off from some guy from the Monkees just because they were born look alikes, what an ***
Yea I think Deryck is much better than Billie Joe... They both put on a great show though

Dude Dave Baksh is the best guitarist I've ever seen or heard (I haven't seen many lol) But he is great

lol no duh you cant burn dvd's... its gay

lol theyre so gay but ill stop for the thread

anyone who bashes sum 41 is stupid

[bassist_for_a_band]

DUDE!!!! the mother ****ing idiot who made that page should have his hands chopped off or something

every single ****ing song i write sounds like a song thats already made. theres only so much that can be written before everthing starts to sound alike

and even if sum 41 got parts of other songs, they at least got it to sound good, and theyve got a lot of fans....


everyone email this fag NOALTERNATIVE@ROGERS.COM
i hope he gets hit by a truck



wait... since when does "how you remind me" sound anything like "the hell song"??

[chops]

ok....billie joe and deryck are about equal, both are alot better then they lead on, and both sing while they play, although if i had to pick which one i would rather be i would pick deryck cuz he's dating Avril and shes hott :thumb:


i think they're engaged now lol

[Bad Blood]

DUDE!!!! the mother ****ing idiot who made that page should have his hands chopped off or something

every single ****ing song i write sounds like a song thats already made. theres only so much that can be written before everthing starts to sound alike

and even if sum 41 got parts of other songs, they at least got it to sound good, and theyve got a lot of fans....


everyone email this fag NOALTERNATIVE@ROGERS.COM
i hope he gets hit by a truck



wait... since when does "how you remind me" sound anything like "the hell song"??

Haha, exactly what i was thinking.

[chumpradio]

I actually agree with How You Remind Me and The Hell Song, but I doubt it was intentional. When DTLI? came out, I thought so straight away.

[Bad Blood]

How does it sound anything like it though?

[chumpradio]

The vocals.
Speed up How You Remind Me, and they have the same melody.

[Bad Blood]

oh right, i've never noticed that before.
I see what you mean now, but its not exactly ripping them off :-\

[bassist_for_a_band]

ok....billie joe and deryck are about equal, both are alot better then they lead on, and both sing while they play, although if i had to pick which one i would rather be i would pick deryck cuz he's dating Avril and shes hott :thumb:
lol yea shes hot but her music is blech... all she sings about is how shes not gonn ahave sex with guys and stuff


but yea theyre engaged... deryck said it on his myspace before it disappeared... stevo's got a myspace, and theres two for the band



I'd have to say Deryck probably is a bit better at guitar, but they're both pretty good vocally. They both put on one hell of a show, too.

[BassPlayer222]

it only seems like deryck is better on guitar, if you seem them play life, half the time he isent even playing, before green day's recent tour Billie Joe was always playing, alot of sum 41 dont have leads in the whole song, whenever you dont hear a lead its usually Dave playing rythem.....i think when they dont sing billie joe is better at guitar but deryck's voice is better live.

[TheBassicBassist]

Yeah that guy, on the bashing site, is an idiot because, everyone listen to the comparison for Makes No Difference and whatever the f the other song is, they are so ****ing different I could throw up, if any intro sounds like the intro to Makes No Difference its Pressing On by Relient K, but RK came after S41, so whatever, besides, that comparison bullshit could be done for any band ever, none more can be said, and the phrase All Killer No Filler is a really famous phrase used by millions of people everyday and the guy thinks that Sum 41 coppied off of that old guy from like...the 40's or something...he's just stupid and biased for no reason...

anyways, I've seen Sum 41 and Green Day live, and I've heard most songs by GD and all songs by S41 and Deryck is so much more talented then Billie Joe, Billie just kinda knows what he's doing and can seem like he's doing something special, Deryck can actually rock out, I love GD and I think Billie Joe is awesome, but he isn't as good

[c0nfusedGUiTARiST]

Yeah that guy, on the bashing site, is an idiot because, everyone listen to the comparison for Makes No Difference and whatever the f the other song is, they are so ****ing different I could throw up, if any intro sounds like the intro to Makes No Difference its Pressing On by Relient K, but RK came after S41, so whatever, besides, that comparison bullshit could be done for any band ever, none more can be said, and the phrase All Killer No Filler is a really famous phrase used by millions of people everyday and the guy thinks that Sum 41 coppied off of that old guy from like...the 40's or something...he's just stupid and biased for no reason...

anyways, I've seen Sum 41 and Green Day live, and I've heard most songs by GD and all songs by S41 and Deryck is so much more talented then Billie Joe, Billie just kinda knows what he's doing and can seem like he's doing something special, Deryck can actually rock out , I love GD and I think Billie Joe is awesome, but he isn't as good

123456...

[bassist_for_a_band]

Yeah that guy, on the bashing site, is an idiot because, everyone listen to the comparison for Makes No Difference and whatever the f the other song is, they are so ****ing different I could throw up, if any intro sounds like the intro to Makes No Difference its Pressing On by Relient K, but RK came after S41, so whatever, besides, that comparison bullshit could be done for any band ever, none more can be said, and the phrase All Killer No Filler is a really famous phrase used by millions of people everyday and the guy thinks that Sum 41 coppied off of that old guy from like...the 40's or something...he's just stupid and biased for no reason...

anyways, I've seen Sum 41 and Green Day live, and I've heard most songs by GD and all songs by S41 and Deryck is so much more talented then Billie Joe, Billie just kinda knows what he's doing and can seem like he's doing something special, Deryck can actually rock out, I love GD and I think Billie Joe is awesome, but he isn't as good
lol yea... Sometimes i try to hum the pressing on intro and i hum the MND intro instead... i dont really like rk though

this guy truly is an idiot. he just doesnt like sum 41, and cant keep it to himself.

lol, i emailed him and he emailed back. hes such an idiot. if you want me to forward it give me ur email addy or something

[bassist_for_a_band]

Better yet, I'll post it. The bottom is my email, the middle is his reply, and the top is my reply to his reply




Well I don't. Nor does anyone else I've talked to. The big deal is, they didn't steal anything, and you're just falsely accusing them. There's only so many things that can be written before music starts to sound alike.

Oh yea, it's spelled favorite.

"Did I crush your favorite band with on little website?"
Umm... What?
But yea, they're my favorite band. Dave Baksh is the best guitarist I've ever seen or heard. Stevo is the best drummer I've ever seen or heard, and Cone is the best bassist I've ever seen or heard. Deryck is a great vocalist/guitarist, and they all put on one hell of a show.

JT <noalternative@rogers.com> wrote:
I believe all the information on my site is valid. What's the big deal? Did I crush your favourite band with on little website?

JT,

PS: By the way, I don't0 care that Deryck looks like somebody else. But since he looks like a guy from the biggest joke band of all time (The Monkees) it's just ironic and funny to put on the site.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin ****
To: NOALTERNATIVE@ROGERS.COM
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: sum ripoff, huh??


Whether or not Sum 41 "stole parts" from other songs, I've barely even heard, or heard of, the bands you accuse them of stealing from.

There's only so much that can be written before it all starts to sound the same. Every time I write something, it sounds like a real song. And I'm not stealing anything.

Who cares if Deryck looks like someone?? It's just how he is. It's not like he had surgery or something.


You act like you know everything about music, and now, just because you don't like Sum 41, you're making a site about them too. You're just a ****ing retarded jackass who's probably like 30 and still lives with his mom

[himynameistweek]

Yeah that guy, on the bashing site, is an idiot because, everyone listen to the comparison for Makes No Difference and whatever the f the other song is, they are so ****ing different I could throw up, if any intro sounds like the intro to Makes No Difference its Pressing On by Relient K, but RK came after S41, so whatever, besides, that comparison bullshit could be done for any band ever, none more can be said, and the phrase All Killer No Filler is a really famous phrase used by millions of people everyday and the guy thinks that Sum 41 coppied off of that old guy from like...the 40's or something...he's just stupid and biased for no reason...

anyways, I've seen Sum 41 and Green Day live, and I've heard most songs by GD and all songs by S41 and Deryck is so much more talented then Billie Joe, Billie just kinda knows what he's doing and can seem like he's doing something special, Deryck can actually rock out, I love GD and I think Billie Joe is awesome, but he isn't as good
i can see similarities in about half of those songs, but you could do that same thing with almost any good band.
and the fact is, billy joe can't play guitar. half of their songs use the same chord progressions. it's always either g-d-e-c or c-g-a-f. and he doesn't even play that very well. anyone can pick two simple chord progressions (that have already been used in 24385345^10 other songs) and play them over and over again. that isn't talent.

[john123]

1. sum 41 is not pop punk

[BassPlayer222]

2. your a moron

[TheBassicBassist]

123456...

thank you very very much :thumb:

[TheBassicBassist]

1. sum 41 is not pop punk

who cares? this thread has been here longer than you and it's mod endorsed, so don't come back, by popular demand

[TheBassicBassist]

I e-mailed that jerkoff and I was really polite about it because I want him to actually listen to what I have to say...sorry to let you down

[Jessizzle]

I love how on tv they say, that they come from a small town thats boring and sucks. Yet I am also from their hometown Ajax, and its not that small or boring, they really shouldnt be saying it sucks.

[TheBassicBassist]

I love how on tv they say, that they come from a small town thats boring and sucks. Yet I am also from their hometown Ajax, and its not that small or boring, they really shouldnt be saying it sucks.

you love that they say it, but you think that they should stop??? oh well, I'll probably go there someday when I feel like it...

[chops]

maybe they think it's boring

[bassist_for_a_band]

I love how on tv they say, that they come from a small town thats boring and sucks. Yet I am also from their hometown Ajax, and its not that small or boring, they really shouldnt be saying it sucks.
They're all just a bunch of anti-Canada idiots.

[bassist_for_a_band]

1. sum 41 is not pop punk
True. But they were. Half Hour Of Power and All Killer No Filler were pop-punk. Between 2001 (AKNF) and 2003 (DTLI), I can't tell you what they did, but they obviously changed their music. Does This Look Infected? was sort of a mix of rock and pop-punk kinds of music, and Chuck is all rock.

They may not be pop-punk currently, but those times are what they are/were known for. I myself would have loved them staying punk-ish but it's their band and they can run it as they see fit.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I e-mailed that jerkoff and I was really polite about it because I want him to actually listen to what I have to say...sorry to let you down
He's got such stupidity and audacity, there's probably nothing that will change him.

[TheBassicBassist]

They're all just a bunch of anti-Canada idiots.

you realize you're talking about the band right?

[TheBassicBassist]

He's got such stupidity and audacity, there's probably nothing that will change him.

true

[vote me]

1. sum 41 is not pop punk
yes they are

come on really

[Kif]

Right now I have Chuck on for the first time in so long, and I've found that it's a damn good record

And yes, Sum 41 are pop-punk

[bassist_for_a_band]

you realize you're talking about the band right?
lol someone said ajax was dumb and boring or something? i figured i was just calling some randon people an idiot

[Bad Blood]

Have Sum 41 ever put a bass solo in any of their songs or improvised the bass, i've never really heard, or remember hearing anything too amazing from the bass.

[himynameistweek]

cone's not a great bassist. you don't find many good bassists in pop-punk, or any subgenre of punk, really. i think there was one song on chuck that had a solo, though.

[Tjebby]

There are tons of good bassist in punk, and all the subgenres.

[TheBassicBassist]

Right now I have Chuck on for the first time in so long, and I've found that it's a **** good record

And yes, Sum 41 are pop-punk

DUDE, how are you so cool??

[TheBassicBassist]

lol someone said ajax was dumb and boring or something? i figured i was just calling some randon people an idiot

well, too bad, you insulted the band, that's something I can never forgive you for...jk...

[TheBassicBassist]

Have Sum 41 ever put a bass solo in any of their songs or improvised the bass, i've never really heard, or remember hearing anything too amazing from the bass.

Cone doesn't usually show off, but he has some cool parts on all the albums, but on Chuck there's a song called Welcome To Hell where he does a 4 second bass solo, but it's good even though it's short

[TheBassicBassist]

cone's not a great bassist. you don't find many good bassists in pop-punk, or any subgenre of punk, really. i think there was one song on chuck that had a solo, though.

cone is an awesome bassist, he just doesn't care enough to write hard parts

[bassist_for_a_band]

Have Sum 41 ever put a bass solo in any of their songs or improvised the bass, i've never really heard, or remember hearing anything too amazing from the bass.
I think Welcoem To Hell had a bit of a bass part... Some songs on HHOP had some bass, but it's didn't sound all that difficult.

[bassplayer_barclay]

Yeah, it was called Daves crazy hair/What we're all about or something simaler. But the spider man one was longer then that.
no you guys got it all wrong.... the daves hair song is on the half hour of power album and the spider man one was just a song they made for the spider man movie

[Kif]

DUDE, how are you so cool??
I was just born with it, I guess

[TheBassicBassist]

no you guys got it all wrong.... the daves hair song is on the half hour of power album and the spider man one was just a song they made for the spider man movie

no **** sherlock :rolleyes:, like we didn't know that yet, the one for the spiderman movie was taken from the one off of HHOP, that's why he said that

[TheBassicBassist]

I was just born with it, I guess

:amaze:

[TheBassicBassist]

I went and saw Fantastic 4, it was pretty cool, but when The Human Torch discovers his powers they played Noots by this particular band and I started freaking out

[bassist_for_a_band]

I went and saw Fantastic 4, it was pretty cool, but when The Human Torch discovers his powers they played Noots by this particular band and I started freaking out
lol i havent heard noots... where might i find it

in the DTLI booklet thing that comes with the cd, it has lyrics to two bonus songs that are on the dvd... i dont remember hearing them.... ?

[hey, you're not cory!]

cone is an awesome bassist, he just doesn't care enough to write hard parts
Thats the worse excuse ever.

[Bad Blood]

How can you not care enopugh to write good music. Surely music is a very large part of his life.

[chops]

I went and saw Fantastic 4, it was pretty cool, but when The Human Torch discovers his powers they played Noots by this particular band and I started freaking out


that's pretty awsome. sum 41 songs are used in alot of movie soundtracks.

[Castor Riff]

Yeah, the bonus tracks Subject to Change, Noots and Moron are pretty good. Subject to Change sounds similar to No Reason, in the way the chorus is sung (and Deryck uses that "so how long, has this gone, I don't see this ending" in Subject to Change as well). The guitar to Noots sounds really similar to the guitar in Still Waiting.

[TheBassicBassist]

lol i havent heard noots... where might i find it

in the DTLI booklet thing that comes with the cd, it has lyrics to two bonus songs that are on the dvd... i dont remember hearing them.... ?

go to purevolume.com and search for Sum 41, there will be three, click on the one that says something in close relation to "Sum 41 (Real)" and it's the only song in there, or you can buy the Fantastic 4 soundtrack, or you can buy the 7" vinyl single of We're All To Blame and it's on side B, or you can download it, or you can have someone else download it and e-mail or IM it to you, hope that helps, it's an amazing tune, it's also on the UK version of Chuck

WWVII Part I & II and Reign In Pain (Heavy Metal Jamboree) great songs, they're on the UK versions of DTLI and they're in the DVD under (if memory serves correct) Pain For Pleasure, but you have to have Cross You're T's And Gouge Your I's, it's not on Live At the Astoria In London..hope this all helps

[TheBassicBassist]

Thats the worse excuse ever.

sorry to upset you...

[TheBassicBassist]

How can you not care enopugh to write good music. Surely music is a very large part of his life.

I didn't say "good music", I said "hard parts", read next time and you might catch that, anyways, he's probably just lazy, besides, his parts are harder than alot of punk related bands, and it doesn't matter, majority of S41 fans don't care about bass anyways, I do, but that doesn't mean a whole lot

[TheBassicBassist]

Yeah, the bonus tracks Subject to Change, Noots and Moron are pretty good. Subject to Change sounds similar to No Reason, in the way the chorus is sung (and Deryck uses that "so how long, has this gone, I don't see this ending" in Subject to Change as well). The guitar to Noots sounds really similar to the guitar in Still Waiting.

okay, I'm going to clear this up once, Noots and STC are bonus Chuck tracks, but Moron was done as a side project for Rock Against Bush Vol. 1, it has absolutely no relation to Chuck whatsoever except for the band that recorded it, anyways, yeah, it kinda chaps my hide that STC and NR are so similar, but I don't really care too much, NR is a great song

[TheBassicBassist]

I got the Motivation EP today, it's awesome, it has Motivation (from AKNF) and it has All She's Got (live), Crazy Amanda Buckface (live), and What We're All About (live from HHOP, not Spiderman soundtrack) and it's really cool, I got it in this awesome tin can thing, not the cd case dealy from amazon

[chops]

WWVII Part I & II and Reign In Pain (Heavy Metal Jamboree) great songs, they're on the UK versions of DTLI and they're in the DVD under (if memory serves correct) Pain For Pleasure, but you have to have Cross You're T's And Gouge Your I's, it's not on Live At the Astoria In London..hope this all helps[/QUOTE]


can you find WWV on pure volume also?

[bassist_for_a_band]

i have 56k so i dont go to music websites or nething...


lol man u have like every sum 41 cd and dvd dont you

[TheBassicBassist]

can you find WWV on pure volume also?

no, but if you have something like iTunes or Limewire then I'm sure you could download them, and when you, I want them too

[TheBassicBassist]

i have 56k so i dont go to music websites or nething...


lol man u have like every sum 41 cd and dvd dont you

not yet man, but it's my dream, someday when I get like 200 dollars I'm going to get on amazon and buy every single album, single and dvd they have for Sum 41, it'll be amazing

[chops]

yeah i dled it's a pretty wicked song same with reign in pain

[TheBassicBassist]

yeah i dled it's a pretty wicked song same with reign in pain

where did you get it and what did you have to pay???

[TheBassicBassist]

GUYS!!! MY MOM JUST BOUGHT ME SAKE BOMBS AND HAPPY ENDINGS!!! She got if for me from eBay and I cannot wait until it gets here, I want it pronto...the anticipation is killing me, even though actually seeing them live was 563 times cooler than this will be, it's new and its SUM 41!!! So you understand my excitement...

[haggard_dude]

Dude thats pretty kool about the sake bombs and happy endings!
My friend has Introduction To Destruction dvd (which I also have), Live In Tokyo and a Documentary DVD, but i can't remember what it is called......can anyone help me out??

[TheBassicBassist]

Dude thats pretty kool about the sake bombs and happy endings!
My friend has Introduction To Destruction dvd (which I also have), Live In Tokyo and a Documentary DVD, but i can't remember what it is called......can anyone help me out??

it's called Bring the Noise, I want it so bad...I also want Maximum Sum 41 because it's an audio biography on cd

[bassist_for_a_band]

lol anything made by, for, or about sum 41.... music, songs, videos, documentaries, dvd's, vhs', singles, EVERYTHING... i want it.

[bassist_for_a_band]

sum ripoff, huh? well MCR's "I'm Not Okay" is an exact jock-off of Sum 41's Summer. A5, A2, E3, E5.

[chops]

where did you get it and what did you have to pay???


for free off ares

[TheBassicBassist]

lol anything made by, for, or about sum 41.... music, songs, videos, documentaries, dvd's, vhs', singles, EVERYTHING... i want it.

Oh man, I know what you're saying man, try ebay, sure you could get sniped in the last second, but it's worth it

[TheBassicBassist]

sum ripoff, huh? well MCR's "I'm Not Okay" is an exact jock-off of Sum 41's Summer. A5, A2, E3, E5.

that doesn't really mean anything truly...

[TheBassicBassist]

for free off ares

what is ares??

[TheBassicBassist]

I got The Best of Sum 41 2nd Edition from ebay, it has five songs from Chuck as well as the originla five from AKNF and five from DTLI, but anyways, I also ordered Maximum Sum 41 from amazon, and Bring The Noise and a Does This Look Infected? lighter, both from rockabilia, I am so excited because this upcoming saturday is my birthday and I turn 16 and I'll be getting all of these amazing item's I've been mentioning lately

[bassist_for_a_band]

what is ares??
its like kazaa or napster, but free i think... theres all sorts of downloading programs for music and videos... napster and itunes (pay), or kazz, limewire, ares,grokster, stuff like that


i'd try ebay but my parents dont like using credit cards online or anything, and i dont have any money to pay them with. also, i dont think i'd find much cheap online

[TheBassicBassist]

dude, can you e-mail me WWVII Parts I and II and Reign In Pain (Heavy Metal Jamboree) ??? please? TheBassicBassist@gmail.com

[bassist_for_a_band]

i hope you dont mean me, cuz i dont have them... all i've got is HHOP, AKNF, DTLI, and Chuck. i could send the songs from those cd's...

[chops]

i'll see if i can email them to you. do you have aim? or msn?

[rkay]

**** you guys are hardcore fans

[TheBassicBassist]

i hope you dont mean me, cuz i dont have them... all i've got is HHOP, AKNF, DTLI, and Chuck. i could send the songs from those cd's...

of course I don't mean you, I already have all of those man...

[TheBassicBassist]

i'll see if i can email them to you. do you have aim? or msn?

I have both, why?

[TheBassicBassist]

**** you guys are hardcore fans


is that like "****, you guys are hardcore fans!" or is that like "**** you guys, you stupid hardcore fans!"? because in my mind it's the first one

and I've gotta ask, why is that your only post? did you not find anything else to do while you were here? :confused:

[Bad Blood]

its cause he's cool :rolleyes:

[rkay]

is that like "****, you guys are hardcore fans!" or is that like "**** you guys, you stupid hardcore fans!"? because in my mind it's the first one


i said dam but i guess that word is not aloud heh

[rkay]

i just registered not too long ago

[TheBassicBassist]

its cause he's cool :rolleyes:

what do you mean?

[TheBassicBassist]

i said dam but i guess that word is not aloud heh

well there's ways around that...damn

[TheBassicBassist]

Well people, my birthday is tommorow and I'm getting all of that hardcore Sum 41 gear that I've mentioned lately, I am almost excited, but I don't get excited anymore, it sucks. Anyways, I'll have a lot to talk about tommorrow

[Permanent Solution]

So, all you hardcore Sum 41 fans want to help me and toss out any info that would be helpful in a band bio?

[bassist_for_a_band]

Deryck used to want to be a MBA basket ball player but when Micheal Jorden quit so did he

All of the band members have been arrested!!

Deryck`s music infulence is Elvis Costello

Sum 41’s salute: 4 fingers up on one hand, and only the middle finger up on the other

Deryck is only 5’5

Sum 41 sign bra and breast of any girl over 19

The entire band smoke apart from Dave

Deryck is dating Avril Lavigne.

Deryck only takes on pair of trousers and about 5 or 6 t-shirts on tour with him because on one of Sum 41’s first concert he took every thing and every thing got stolen!

Deryck cuts his own hair, with kitchen scissors

Steve and Deryck started the band way back in 1996

Deryck mostly plays with his Gibson Les Paul guitar

Sum 41 are planning to start their own line of clothing called the “Evil Dwarf Clothing Cult”

Deryck is a fidget he just can’t stop handling things

Deryck loves the sound of breaking glass and is known to shoot down all the windows of hotels with a BB gun!

Steve and Deryck are known to prank call Ex-members and egg there houses

Deryck (Prior to Avril Lavigne) has dated Paris Hilton in the year of 2003

When Deryck was younger, His parents divorced from eachother. His mother soon brought in a boyfriend (Deryck did not like him) so he took a train to Toronto Canada. When he came back home he was in a lot of heat with his Mom.

Deryck likes watching Green Day live

Derycks favorite breakfast is French toast

Deryck got the nickname "Bizzy D" from Jay. Because he is always "busy"

Behind the name Sum 41: They formed the band 41 days into summer

The band originated from Ajax, Canada, which they described "A boring place"

Thier CD "Chuck" is named after the United Nations peacekeeper who helped saved the lives of the guys of Sum 41 when they went out of the country to shoot a documentary on the war. The band was hanging out at thier hotel and suddenly bombs were screeching off. The band got out in time thanks to Chuck.

Sum 41 signed a deal with Island records in December 1999

Sum 41 became known worldwide in 1996

Sum 41 did a song called "Little Know It All" with Iggy pop on Iggy`s new ablum "Skull Ring"

Chuck was released on October 12 th 2004

Albums: Half Hour of Power (2000) All Killer No Filler (2001) Maximum Sum 41 (2002) Does This Look Infected (2002) Chuck (2004)

Sum 41 may be releasing a collision CD with Ludacris

Sum 41 has appeared on Saturday Night Live with Ludacris

Deryck has a criminal record for - b+e, theft, arson, vandalism, and just general mischief

Deryck`s worst band is Cleavage, he dislikes them alot

i got em on myspace

[chumpradio]

For that post, Maximum Sum 41 isn't an album. It is an unofficial biography cd with no music at all.

[I-cant-sing]

For that post, Maximum Sum 41 isn't an album. It is an unofficial biography cd with no music at all.
yeah and it sucks :thumb:

[TheBassicBassist]

Deryck used to want to be a MBA basket ball player but when Micheal Jorden quit so did he

All of the band members have been arrested!!

Deryck`s music infulence is Elvis Costello

Sum 41’s salute: 4 fingers up on one hand, and only the middle finger up on the other

Deryck is only 5’5

Sum 41 sign bra and breast of any girl over 19

The entire band smoke apart from Dave

Deryck is dating Avril Lavigne.

Deryck only takes on pair of trousers and about 5 or 6 t-shirts on tour with him because on one of Sum 41’s first concert he took every thing and every thing got stolen!

Deryck cuts his own hair, with kitchen scissors

Steve and Deryck started the band way back in 1996

Deryck mostly plays with his Gibson Les Paul guitar

Sum 41 are planning to start their own line of clothing called the “Evil Dwarf Clothing Cult”

Deryck is a fidget he just can’t stop handling things

Deryck loves the sound of breaking glass and is known to shoot down all the windows of hotels with a BB gun!

Steve and Deryck are known to prank call Ex-members and egg there houses

Deryck (Prior to Avril Lavigne) has dated Paris Hilton in the year of 2003

When Deryck was younger, His parents divorced from eachother. His mother soon brought in a boyfriend (Deryck did not like him) so he took a train to Toronto Canada. When he came back home he was in a lot of heat with his Mom.

Deryck likes watching Green Day live

Derycks favorite breakfast is French toast

Deryck got the nickname "Bizzy D" from Jay. Because he is always "busy"

Behind the name Sum 41: They formed the band 41 days into summer

The band originated from Ajax, Canada, which they described "A boring place"

Thier CD "Chuck" is named after the United Nations peacekeeper who helped saved the lives of the guys of Sum 41 when they went out of the country to shoot a documentary on the war. The band was hanging out at thier hotel and suddenly bombs were screeching off. The band got out in time thanks to Chuck.

Sum 41 signed a deal with Island records in December 1999

Sum 41 became known worldwide in 1996

Sum 41 did a song called "Little Know It All" with Iggy pop on Iggy`s new ablum "Skull Ring"

Chuck was released on October 12 th 2004

Albums: Half Hour of Power (2000) All Killer No Filler (2001) Maximum Sum 41 (2002) Does This Look Infected (2002) Chuck (2004)

Sum 41 may be releasing a collision CD with Ludacris

Sum 41 has appeared on Saturday Night Live with Ludacris

Deryck has a criminal record for - b+e, theft, arson, vandalism, and just general mischief

Deryck`s worst band is Cleavage, he dislikes them alot

i got em on myspace

I guarentee you that more than half of those are 100% wrong, but funny anyways

[TheBassicBassist]

For that post, Maximum Sum 41 isn't an album. It is an unofficial biography cd with no music at all.

very true, I have it and Maximum Blink 182

[TheBassicBassist]

yeah and it sucks :thumb:

nah :rolleyes:

[Untitled]

I guarentee you that more than half of those are 100% wrong, but funny anyways
No, the majority are right, and i knew most of it anyway, only thing i have a problem is them being world wide known in 1996.

[TheBassicBassist]

HAPPY MOTHER ****ING BIRTHDAY BITCHES!!!





yesterday was Steve's birthday...mine too...Dave's is the 26th...two more days

[TheBassicBassist]

No, the majority are right, and i knew most of it anyway, only thing i have a problem is them being world wide known in 1996.

I know alot of it too, and most is true, by me saying more than half is wrong I meant that I can pick out quite a few that aren't just wrong, but they're stupid too

their first ever tour was in 1996, it was called The Beast in the East

I have a problem with Maximum Sum 41 being in the albums list

the whole thing about the whole band smoking is dumb, Steve doesn't smoke either, I don't think any of them do and if any do then it's only Deryck, but I doubt that he does either

[Untitled]

Thats 3 things, barly half the list, not even a quarter.

[TheBassicBassist]

Thats 3 things, barly half the list, not even a quarter.

I know :D, I exaggerate alot

and I don't have time to sit here and identify all of the incorrect facts, and I have to go, good lord I feel like I'm instant messaging right now....

[bassist_for_a_band]

w/e... lol i read it before but i just C&Pd em today... some are definitely wrong though

oh well either way sum 41 kicks ***

[TheBassicBassist]

w/e... lol i read it before but i just C&Pd em today... some are definitely wrong though

oh well either way sum 41 kicks ***

yes, very much the truth

[I-cant-sing]

does anybody know when these guys are doing a proper world tour again, not that 7 stops in 10 days crap, but stopping everywhere if ya know what i mean

[TheBassicBassist]

does anybody know when these guys are doing a proper world tour again, not that 7 stops in 10 days crap, but stopping everywhere if ya know what i mean

no, but their web page has like, 400 (exageration) tour dates listed, go check it out

[TheBassicBassist]

has anyone in here seen any of the footage of War Child Canada yet? I think it was supposed to be on mtv or something sometime whenever...

[bassist_for_a_band]

has anyone in here seen any of the footage of War Child Canada yet? I think it was supposed to be on mtv or something sometime whenever...
My friend found a trailer for it online and showed me... Pretty sweet.

[Mother_Of_Abominations]

sum 41 is a great band, and put on an awesome live show. I think deryck's lyrical writing has improved from cd to cd IMO.

[bassist_for_a_band]

I was looking on xanga at the xangazon search (in the weblogs you can say what cd youre listening to or what book your reading) and theres five pages of sum 41 cd's. singles, foreign cd's.... i guess they re-realeased the cd's, they had HHOP, AKNF, and DTLI dated like 2004 or 2005.... i dunno but go look at it, theyve got all sorts of cd's

[TheBassicBassist]

sum 41 is a great band, and put on an awesome live show. I think deryck's lyrical writing has improved from cd to cd IMO.

I've always felt that he's written original lyrics

[TheBassicBassist]

I was looking on xanga at the xangazon search (in the weblogs you can say what cd youre listening to or what book your reading) and theres five pages of sum 41 cd's. singles, foreign cd's.... i guess they re-realeased the cd's, they had HHOP, AKNF, and DTLI dated like 2004 or 2005.... i dunno but go look at it, theyve got all sorts of cd's

I've done that already, and Xangazon just used links from Amazon, so if you want details go look there

[TheBassicBassist]

Does anyone have some kind of off brand song by Sum 41? like I have Astronaught which is from the 1998 compilation tape Punk No Die, I don't have the comilation, but I want it really bad...so...do you?

[kerr69]

i have all albums my fav is does this look infected

[Mild_child]

Wondering...is it true that Dave and the "big-nosed one" Deryck use Rio Grande BBQ pickups?

[Kif]

Does anyone have some kind of off brand song by Sum 41? like I have Astronaught which is from the 1998 compilation tape Punk No Die, I don't have the comilation, but I want it really bad...so...do you?
"Astronaut" is just a demo from what I can remember

[TheBassicBassist]

Wondering...is it true that Dave and the "big-nosed one" Deryck use Rio Grande BBQ pickups?

I have no idea, but why did you call him the "big-nosed one"?

[TheBassicBassist]

"Astronaut" is just a demo from what I can remember

Nope, it's actually a song from the punk compilation Punk No Die from 1998

where did you get your name? did you copy from kif? are you kif???

[himynameistweek]

i'm pretty sure deryck does.
i would assume dave uses duncan or emg.

[TheBassicBassist]

i'm pretty sure deryck does.
i would assume dave uses duncan or emg.

what in the world are you talking about?

[Gnarmageddon]

what in the world are you talking about?

Wondering...is it true that Dave and the "big-nosed one" Deryck use Rio Grande BBQ pickups?

i'm pretty sure deryck does.
i would assume dave uses duncan or emg.
(dfsdf)

[Dead Star]

Find it then?

[Fish]

I think chuck is there best album so far. They go places they haven't gone before.

[TheBassicBassist]

dude, everyone go to google and search this exact phrase "Sum 41 Punk No Die" but DO NOT use the ""'s okay? you get my post as the very first link, it's post #1209 on this thread, it's actually on this page.

[bassist_for_a_band]

that doesnt work on yahoo... it found mxtabs and musicianforums but not your post


your right about google though :thumb:

[ween2424]

I liked "Hell song". I also loved the video for it.

[Fish]

yeah the video was funny

[Bad Blood]

Yeah, it was funny.

I doubt we'll see another video like that from them though.

I think they've turned down the more "mature" road like you could say a lot of other bands have done.

[TheBassicBassist]

Has anyone else seen the new video for Some Say? It's okay, not as good as We're All To Blame or Pieces, it's kinda depressing and weird, like, it takes place on some kind of board game looking thingy, I don't quite remember it was about a month ago that I saw it.

I got the official Does This Look Infected? Lighter today along with Bring The Noise, their unofficial DVD Biography. It's really cool, check it out.

[TheBassicBassist]

You can download Sum 41's Tribute to Queen for the song Killer Queen from sumpieces.com now. I downloaded it, it's wasn't sum 41's usual style, it's hard to hear any Sum 41 in it at all, but it's deffinitly them, they just left it as Queen style and recorded it themselves, it's friggin GOOD. Go download it now.

[noreason88]

Bassic Bassist, how obsessed are you? Do you like any other bands?

And I think that Deryk with Avril Lavign is the begining of the end of sum 41. This has probably already been discusses but I havn't looked at this thread in a while.

And a few pages back I saw people bashing Cone for not being a good bassist. Your all wrong because he fits with sum 41, knows theory, and is better then all of you. Sometimes it seems that when people critizize a muscision, they always are judging on how hard his stuff is to play. And unless Cones doin a solo you can barly hear the bass because theres 2 guitars and drums and vocals.

[TheBassicBassist]

Bassic Bassist, how obsessed are you? Do you like any other bands?

And I think that Deryk with Avril Lavign is the begining of the end of sum 41. This has probably already been discusses but I havn't looked at this thread in a while.

And a few pages back I saw people bashing Cone for not being a good bassist. Your all wrong because he fits with sum 41, knows theory, and is better then all of you. Sometimes it seems that when people critizize a muscision, they always are judging on how hard his stuff is to play. And unless Cones doin a solo you can barly hear the bass because theres 2 guitars and drums and vocals.

first of all, not that obsessed, they're just my favorite band and I would give anything to meet them face to face

second, I like hundreds of other bands, music is my life, not just Sum 41

third, I don't think Deryck would leave Sum 41 because of Avril, Dave's married and he's still there, and Deryck would be nothing without the guys

fourth, I didn't bash Cone, I stood up for him and I love his stuff, some of it is actually pretty difficult, and I don't actually think he knows theory, sorry

[noreason88]

Deryk probably could do well on his own knowing hes marrying a popstar, went out with Paris Hilton, and everyone in the media knows who he is.

And its easy to figure out when someone uses theory because you can look at their songs and tell, still waiting obviously has theory to it, and so do others

[TheBassicBassist]

Deryk probably could do well on his own knowing hes marrying a popstar, went out with Paris Hilton, and everyone in the media knows who he is.

And its easy to figure out when someone uses theory because you can look at their songs and tell, still waiting obviously has theory to it, and so do others

okay, so alot of people know him, so what the **** would he do on his own? nothing, he'd just get another band, and the one he has, he likes, so don't worry about it

and some people are just good at writing, I'm good at writing and I don't know jack **** about music theory, I don't think that he knows any

[KNuPRoCKeR]

Sum 41 Hooch = P.o.d. Boom

[Agent_Orange]

wat da fux up guys

[sumblinkdude]

Can anybody list all the songs that didn't come with the original albums? ex: Moron, What we're all about.

don't know if anyone has posted these tracks,but you can find Rock You (Cover of Helix)at www.foq-crew.tk

Killer Queen (cover of Queen - soon to be released on the Killer Queen tribute album). I think you can find that on a board at ww.sumpieces.com

there's probably hundreds more knowing Sum 41.

[noreason88]

okay, so alot of people know him, so what the **** would he do on his own? nothing, he'd just get another band, and the one he has, he likes, so don't worry about it

and some people are just good at writing, I'm good at writing and I don't know jack **** about music theory, I don't think that he knows any

He does know theory because someone who knows theory can look at his basslines and determine it. The two tabs I looked at (still waiting and hell song) both use theory. And theory is a really good thing to learn because it makes you a musician, not a bass player. Bass players need to know theory, I havn't looked in bass forums since I play guitar but I'm positive they would say that theory is somthing you need to know. Also, its dumb to walk around saying that you write good stuff because someone will listen to your songs and some might say that there shiit.

[TheBassicBassist]

don't know if anyone has posted these tracks,but you can find Rock You (Cover of Helix)at www.foq-crew.tk

Killer Queen (cover of Queen - soon to be released on the Killer Queen tribute album). I think you can find that on a board at ww.sumpieces.com

there's probably hundreds more knowing Sum 41.

the guy that posted that thing you responded to hasn't been on this site in like, a year

but thanks, I already knew about and have Killer Queen, but I didn't know about that other thing, I'll look into it

[TheBassicBassist]

He does know theory because someone who knows theory can look at his basslines and determine it. The two tabs I looked at (still waiting and hell song) both use theory. And theory is a really good thing to learn because it makes you a musician, not a bass player. Bass players need to know theory, I havn't looked in bass forums since I play guitar but I'm positive they would say that theory is somthing you need to know. Also, its dumb to walk around saying that you write good stuff because someone will listen to your songs and some might say that there shiit.

there's always someone who won't like something somone else writes, but I actually do write really cool stuff, and the bassline to Still Waiting is nothing special and the one to Hell song is all eigth notes of the same note eight times in a row except a random not every now and then, dude, seriously, he writes good stuff, but I doubt he ever learned theory

[TheBassicBassist]

wat da fux up guys

not too much man, you haven't been in here in forever, what's the deal?

[noreason88]

there's always someone who won't like something somone else writes, but I actually do write really cool stuff, and the bassline to Still Waiting is nothing special and the one to Hell song is all eigth notes of the same note eight times in a row except a random not every now and then, dude, seriously, he writes good stuff, but I doubt he ever learned theory

I really think he does know theory, but if both of us cared enough we could look into it more, but we can just leave it.

[chops]

i doubt he knows theory. he may know some but not alot.

[Bad Blood]

He will know enough.

Most bands, who can make decent songs and work together well, do.

[TheBassicBassist]

I just have trouble believing that he actually knows very much if any, he can't know too much, guys that know alot about theory move on to be like Victor Wooten and so forth

[Bad Blood]

Not if they like doing what they do.

[Silvermedalmafia]

To break down the talent level in Sum 41....
Steve: Amazing, great rock drummer.
Dave: Same thing but guitar
Deryck: Good guitarist, but not great.
Cone: Either he can play like a 12 year old who has played for 3 months or he only plays like that when he's being recorded.

[Alexpc007]

I agree with Silvermedal mafia, but Cone deserves a bit more than that ;)

[TheBassicBassist]

To break down the talent level in Sum 41....
Steve: Amazing, great rock drummer.
Dave: Same thing but guitar
Deryck: Good guitarist, but not great.
Cone: Either he can play like a 12 year old who has played for 3 months or he only plays like that when he's being recorded.

wow, you got Dave and Steve right, obviously you guys aren't even trying to listen to what cone does, listen to what he did for Mr. Amsterdam, he has talent, he just does what most bassists do, he plays the guitar part an octave lower, but he's a good writer and he's really talented

and Deryck has gotten tons better since his vocal chords ruptured, it sounds weird but it's true, I can't wait to hear his voice for the next album

[deathscreamingsheep]

I really think he does know theory, but if both of us cared enough we could look into it more, but we can just leave it.

In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.

[TheBassicBassist]

In Total Guitar the band admitted to not know any theory. For example they could not identify a pentatonic scale or notes on the fretboard.

They play by ear and by experience of working out how to get a good sound mainly.

thank you for that information, it is most appreciated :D

[himynameistweek]

dave knows his theory. i know that much. i doubt cone knows much more than basic scales though. most of what he plays is root notes.

[Drums-R-MiLyfe]

is bass not all root notes? as in on guitar youre using two fingers but the root note is the one played on the lowest of the strings played and commonly played with the index finger


edit- this is bassist for a band, im on my friend's PC and hes signed on

[himynameistweek]

if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.

[chumpradio]

if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.
It is nowhere near pointless.
It makes the sound a lot more "full", and helps to keep rythm when the guitarist does anything different.

[Untitled]

Guitar sounds so hollow without the bass backing it up.

[TheBassicBassist]

bass isn't all root notes, it can be very different, it can do chords and power chords and all of that crap and it can also be the lead if your good, but it's not pointless to ANY extent

[bassist_for_a_band]

if a bassist is playing root notes, it means he's just playing the root of what the guitarist is playing. it's boring and basically pointless.
yea thats what i meant, the root of the guitar music

but its not pointless at all

[Silvermedalmafia]

The point I was trying to make about Cone was that all he does it root notes, and it bores the living sh*t out of me. Christ, just once he should do a little something different.