Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

[ToRidTheDisease]

So i was looking around at all these "official threads" and noticed someone, no Black Sabbath thread?? I think out of all these bands these guys really need a main thread. They are one of the best rock bands ever. You can discuss anything Black Sabbath in here, but do not spam and flame.

Tony Iommi was the only guitarist in Black Sabbath, and Randy Rhoads had nothing to do with it. Therefore, do not say something like this: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6836385&postcount=3155

Here's a very detailed Black Sabbath recommendation post originally made by Lord Brummington.

Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of:

'' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?''

So...here we go.

Albums - Ozzy Years

I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread

Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order.

An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies.

Dio Years

With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order.

Tony Martin Years

I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live .

I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it.

From this era I'd highly recommend TYR

The Rest

Born Again

From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years.

7th Star

This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection.

Compilations/Best Of's

This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think.

If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album.

Live Albums

The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order.

Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have):

Volume 4
Black Sabbath
Never Say Die!
Live Evil
Heaven and Hell
Master of Reality
Sabotage
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Technical Ecstasy
Headless Cross
TYR
Mob Rules
Dehumanizer
Paranoid

Songs

If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order)

Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio)
The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin)
Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy)
The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio)
TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio)
Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy)
Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy)
Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin)
Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin)
Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan)
7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] )
Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy)
The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy)
After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy)

Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs.

Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc...

-Brum

[starappletheory]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

[ToRidTheDisease]

they do a little bit, but not too much

[acdcfreak]

I'm surprised there isn't a Black Sabbath thread already, but i'm glad someone finally got around to making one :thumb:

[monkey_chops23]

Sabbath is awesome. My favorite Sabbath song would have to be War Pigs or Paranoid.

I would also say Iron Man, but that would give away my secret that the only Black Sabbath album I've heard is Paranoid. :lol:

[mayonaise]

yeah, i've only listnened to paranoid, plus a couple of other songs that get played on the radio. what are some other good songs/albums?

[Broken Arrow]

I have 5 of their Albums. I probably like their S/T one best though.

My favourite song is probably The Wizard

[Kage]

There's no Official Black Sabbath thread for the exact reason this one was started...Official threads are created to keep the number of threads about a band down, and since Black Sabbath doesn't have too many, there's no official thread for it. Or, at least, that's what I gather from it.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti

Oh, you're crazy...But anyways some great songs by Sabbath: War Pigs, NIB, Fairies Wear Boots, Paranoid, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Iron Man.

Great Ozzy Songs: Crazy Train, Over the Mountain, No more Tears, Shot in the Dark, Gets Me Through.

[King David]

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.

[rabbidweezel]

i really like symptom of the universe, its a great song, show how black sabbath really liked to go from a metal sound to acustical very smoothly...Black sabbath is definatly on of my favortie bands.

[Broken Arrow]

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.


Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:

[King David]

Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:
Sounds good, I will have to check em out. thanks

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Yeah Black Sabbath was one of the bands that made me pick up guitar and for that I thank them. :p

[JACK!]

Fairies Wear Boots or Sweet Leaf

[liv11]

I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!

[Thor]

Hey all! I dont have any albums of them, but i have plenty of their songs on mix cds. The best songs would have to be war pigs or paranoid.

[ToRidTheDisease]

im surprised there arent a lot more posts by now

[Riva]

They are one of my favourite bands. I especially love all of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, and Paranoid. My favourtie album is Master Of Reality, but unfortuneatly I only have it on tape. :upset:

I don't like post-Ozzy Sabbath that much though.

[black_sabbath634]

yeah black sabbath they are may favorite band, im starting to get into sabbath after ozzy and dio, its really good, martin is a great singer, hes the only one ive really listened to.

[drummerman]

all their songs are great

[SilenceNOmorE]

I really like Sabbath, especially the more bluesy/groovin stuff like The Wizard. It just shows how metal originated as sort of a fusion of blues and rock with a fair heap of attitude thrown in. Of course, they're rockin stuff is awesome as well.
LONG LIVE SABBATH!

[blue3]

My favorite would be Paranoid. You should get the "We Sold Our Soul To Rock n Roll" CD.

[rising_fury]

sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p

[ToRidTheDisease]

sabbath are the reason i picked up guitar, my fav song by them is probably war pigs, but there are many a awesome song... like the wizard, nothing like ozzy on harmonica :p
same here about the guitar part

[codered878]

black sabbath - iron man, nib, paranoid

ozzy - crazy train, mr crowley, no more tears

[RockerGav]

Sabbath - Wizard, Supernaut, NIB, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Heaven and Hell

Ozzy - Too many to name really, I'm more familiar with Ozzy than Sabbath as I have more of his albums.

[ToRidTheDisease]

i changed the thread title, i hope its ok

[CrateElectrabass]

i dont have a favoritesabbath song because i love all of them and you cant go wrong with ozzy

[Brew]

Good Black Sabbath albums - Vol.4, Heaven and Hell, Sabotage, Never Say Die!

Good Sabbath songs:

Air Dance (Never Say Die!)
Megalomania (Sabotage)
Supernaut (Vol.4)
Tomorrow's Dream (Vol.4)
Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy)
N.I.B (Black Sabbath)
Planet Caravan (Paranoid)
Solitude (Master of Reality)
Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!)
Fluff (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Who Are You (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
The Writ (Sabotage)
You Won't Change Me (Technical Ecstasy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
Sleeping Village/The Warning (Black Sabbath)

I've only included the Ozzy-era songs, seeing as I'm feeling lazy and most people like the Ozzy-era of Black Sabbath.

[Lord Abortion]

the wizard rules

[shadow_stalker]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti


sabbath make zeppelin sound light, but they both used to play more bluesy based styles

favourite sabbath song is probably the origional version of war pigs that is on ozzy's "the ozzman cometh"

ozzy - hellraiser

[blizzard]

Paranoid - the first Black Sabbath song i heard

[JMetallica]

I've only included the Ozzy-era songs, seeing as I'm feeling lazy and most people like the Ozzy-era of Black Sabbath.

I think thats because most people havent heard anything but ozzy era sabbath. :(

My five favourite Sabbath songs are: Symptom Of The Universe, Sign Of The Southern Cross, The Shining, Computer God and Children Of the Grave.... Mainly for the reason that they all have balls that are comparable to the size of large oranges.

[daaf]

i love sabbath but i don't like ozzys solo career

[ArcLite]

I like Sabbath better than solo, but I gotta say no more tears had some good tracks on it, highlight of his solo career in my opinion

[moomoomoff]

you can't beat black sabbath, sweet leaf, a national acrobat or iron man

[G_Mac07]

I bought a 2 disc cd called "The Best of Black Sabbath" last week. It's this best thing I've bought for ages:thumb:

[acefrehleyjendell]

i really think for anyone interested in sabbath should find a great song for what they like musically, for the usual slow but heavy riffs , listen to master of reality, for the more epic and ambitious, give sabbath bloody sabbath and sabotage a go, for power-ballads, listen to anything from after ian gillan left up until before dio came back, for the faster stuff, try heaven and hell, mob rules, and dehumanizer,

key tracks

black sabbath (black sabbath)
n.i.b (black sabbath)
paranoid (paranoid)
iron man (paranoid)
war pigs (paranoid)
electric funeral (paranoid)
children of the grave (mor)
sweet leaf (mor)
lord of this world (mor)
into the void (mor)
snowblind (vol4)
tomorrows dream (vol4)
supernaut (vol4)
sabbath bloody sabbath (sbs)
a national acrabat (sbs)
who are you (sbs)
looking for today (sbs)
killing yourself to live (sbs)
hole in the sky (sabotage) - kick a$$ riff, sounds sort of like slower powerslave era iron maiden, real slower.
symptom of the universe (sabotage)
am i going insane (sabotage)
dirty women (technical ecstasy) - lol i think tony was using too much on this album but still a good record.
never say die (nsd)
johnny blade (nsd)
shock wave (nsd) - one of my favs- killer intro, great lyrics, goes get a bit bowie-ish after a while.
air dance (nsd)
heaven and hell (hah)
die young (hah)
neon knights (hah)
children of the sea (hah) or is that on mob rules ???????
the mob rules (mob rules) - even though it says KILL OZZY, on the front cover-.
turn up the night (mob rules) really strange for a band that done somethinglike war pigs or spiral architect- but straight up rock.
computer god (dehumanizer)
tv crimes (dehumanizer)
I (dehumanizer)
kiss of death (forbidden)
psycho man (reunion)

sorry for the long post but i get worked up about sabbath and when i saw this thread -WOW- P.S. you can tell i'm not really a fan of much of the 80's stuff.

[Brew]

^Wow, I think I've found someone who's on the same level as me for being a Sabbath fan.

:)

[acefrehleyjendell]

thanks man, there hard to find these days coz most of em arent my age,
i dont think theres another 17 yo australian dude that likes sabbath as much as me, i used to just sit with my 'gibson iommi sg 400' in my room and play there entire back cataloge along with the lp or cd, until i dicovered that my ex bandmates finally accepted ''high pitched'' voices in there terms as cool and not gay (absolutly no offence whatsoever to the world wide homosexual community) and could appricate guitar that was real and not just computerised (with the exeption of never say die) so now we have changed musical direction and are now a real metal band that will put up a fight against any mainstream posers or even guys just like us, we have a point to prove to the world all because of the sound of rain , tolling bells , and the most powerful , soul crushing, bone rattling first chord of Black Sabbath, which i heard when i was about four years old, they have never been matched, nver will, and just like sabbath we will NEVER SAY DIE :thumb:

[Black Sabbath #1]

Black Sabbath is the best band ever, I love all their songs, no band in the world is better.

Black Sabbath from 1970-1978 that is...after that you cant really call it Black Sabbath, its just plain 80's crap.

Sabbath Rules!!

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^^

your not a diehard Sabbath fan then,as I have every album and would only call "seventh star" and "forbidden" their only weak albums. The other's are fantastic (espically the Dio and Martin years).

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188582

^^^

thats the REAL Sabbath thread we've had going on for awhile now, look on page 1 for key tracklists from a real Sabbath fanatic.

[Brew]

^Iommi has his new (well, old) album out now with Glen Hughes on vocals.

If I'm right, its the album they've been calling the 8th Star?

Was due out in 1996, but got shunned for a Mark I Black Sabbath re-union.

Fun Fact of the day - There have been roughly 30 different line-ups for Black Sabbath.

[Led Guitar]

snowblind is my favorite song.

[InChains]

Im trying to get into black sabbath, i know ill like them just from what ive heard, what cd should i buy first. preferrably from the ozzy era.

[InChains]

I bought a 2 disc cd called "The Best of Black Sabbath" last week. It's this best thing I've bought for ages:thumb:


maybe ill get that to starrt out

[ToRidTheDisease]

Im trying to get into black sabbath, i know ill like them just from what ive heard, what cd should i buy first. preferrably from the ozzy era.
hmm im not sure, but theres no "bad" black sabbath cd, just find one with the songs you like.

[Riva]

Master Of Reality. It is their gateway album, and is one of the most popular.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^Iommi has his new (well, old) album out now with Glen Hughes on vocals.

If I'm right, its the album they've been calling the 8th Star?

Was due out in 1996, but got shunned for a Mark I Black Sabbath re-union.

Fun Fact of the day - There have been roughly 30 different line-ups for Black Sabbath.

Yes i got 8th star last week actually, i like it more than Seventh Star but overall it's not near his best, still worth getting if your an obsessive Iommi fan.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

Master Of Reality. It is their gateway album, and is one of the most popular.

i will aggree with that, it was my second (first being Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath) and when i heard those songs it was what got me hooked and made me appriciate Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath more. My third album was Heaven and Hell, which at the time i was not aware had Dio on vocals, and LOVED that and soon purchased Volume.4 and Dehumanizer.

[SGdudeSG]

what album is sweet leaf on?

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^^

master of reality...not one of the album highlights, if you havent heard the rest you wouldnt understand hehe. Fantastic album.

[rippa32]

I was thinking about getting the Tyr album wat do u all think about that album.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

Tyr is fantastic. All lyrics are based around Norse Myths, which i am very much into. Tony's voice is wondeful on there. Id say the key tracks would be: "the sabbath stones" "anno mundi" and "jerusalem" though every track is magnificigant. Probley their best produced album in terms of sound quality, Tony plays wonderfuly which is most importantly. aside from "cross purposes" it is the best with Martin on vocals.

[rippa32]

thanks for that

[beyondthecircle]

the new box set rocks. you can really see a progression in the musical ability of sabbath. Im not sure i like the synth in "never say die (or maybe its technical exstacy?," i think its overused. but, sabbath will always kickass. Sabatoge would rate #1 for me on the original lineup's discography.

[IAJP]

Black sabbath is the best black sabbath album.

[rippa32]

What does everyone think of the Dehuminizer Album.

[Faith No Doubt]

I like Master Of Reality.

But without Ozzy...they are a joke.

[JMetallica]

Um, no. Ozzy is the joke, Sabbath owned with the other vocalists. The Dehumanizer album was one of those that owned. It's awesome. I love the first three songs, especially.

[Mark. A]

I love Sabbath a lot more then Ozzy.

[Malakian Worshipper]

I can remember first listening to Sabbath when i was 9. It was on vinly and i still love their sh!t today. Master Of Reality was my fav. album, now its paranoid, undoubtedly the best metal album of all time. I dont think much of ozzy, but iommi is a mentor (anyone who can play with 2 fingers is pretty cool).

[doggonit]

sabbath is great and iommi is a bit under-rated, what with the fingers being chopped off.

[IAJP]

Black Sabbath>Every other album by them.

[Burning inside]

Black Sabbath>Every other album by them.

:thumb: :thumb:

Apart from the Reunion cd they released, which was live and had all their best songs on.

[munchinglimbs]

Ulike most modern day bands, black sabbath actually reaches into your mind and pulls out your soul, twisting it into realms of the imagination never before, or even since, explored by humanity. Master of Reality has got to be one of the greatest albums of all time, although not the most popular (that medal goes to Paranoid), certainly one of the most surreal... and even an anti-religion person like myself was drawn to explore the regions of life after death and even sought to gain a better understanding of christianity. A stimulant to the mind and the soul, a refreshment for the more macabre and morbid imaginations of humanity... without sabbath my life would be an empty wasteland void of all existensialist thought, but as it is, my worldview is constantly fuelled by the beauty of Orchid. To me, Master of Reality is truly that.

[Brew]

:thumb: :thumb:

Apart from the Reunion cd they released, which was live and had all their best songs on.

I prefer the lesser known Black Sabbath songs to the ones that they play on tour all the time.

I get sick of hearing Paranoid, Iron Man, Snowblind and War Pigs etc... I'd give my left leg to be able to see them play on the Vol.4 tour or the Sabotage tour.

[rising_fury]

i'd settle for just seeing them at all

[Brew]

i'd settle for just seeing them at all

Same here, I just wish they'd play some other songs.

[JMetallica]

^^

Haha, don't we all?

[rising_fury]

well, hearing supernaut live would be rockin, and hand of doom... mmmmm... hand of doom

[acefrehleyjendell]

Tyr is fantastic. All lyrics are based around Norse Myths, which i am very much into. Tony's voice is wondeful on there. Id say the key tracks would be: "the sabbath stones" "anno mundi" and "jerusalem" though every track is magnificigant. Probley their best produced album in terms of sound quality, Tony plays wonderfuly which is most importantly. aside from "cross purposes" it is the best with Martin on vocals.

whats the song on that that the video is similar to the KISS video for hide your heart but in the daytime ant IommI does that cool spin ???

[acefrehleyjendell]

^^^^

master of reality...not one of the album highlights, if you havent heard the rest you wouldnt understand hehe. Fantastic album.

i totally agree, sweet leaf was the first one i heard of that album and thought it was cool but omg was i completly blown away when i heard children of the grave, into the void, and lord of this world. but my fave sabbath album changes every week, right now its never say die, last time it was dehumanizer bootleg with rob halford on vocals

[acefrehleyjendell]

off of 7th star iv'e only heard no stranger to love and was not that impressed by it, does it sound like that all the way thru or does it have some more sabbath type songs????

[acefrehleyjendell]

What does everyone think of the Dehuminizer Album.

that album rules dude, its so heavy i especially like computer god and I

[synzephyr]

I own Paranoid, masters of reality, and black sabbath an d i love them!

[Brew]

^ I own from Black Sabbath to Mob Rules.

Frail has even more than me.

I'd say that Vol.4, Never Say Die!, Sabotage and Heaven and Hell are my favourite albums.

[shadow_stalker]

I'd say that Vol.4, Never Say Die!, Sabotage and Heaven and Hell are my favourite albums.

really vol 4?, i dont like it as much as the others, ive only listened to it once through and it wasnt that impressive to me

i'll listen to it again maybe it will be better

[rising_fury]

i'm only missing eternal idol, born again, 7th star, and i think tyr, but i have a sneaking suspicion i have tyr

[shadow_stalker]

im missing all none ozzy albums and master of reality, technical ecstacy, never say die, sabotage and i think thats it

[MAthiAS]

Favorite songs are War Pigs and Electric Funeral

[The Bell Tolls]

I love black sabbath for the awesome bass riffs. N.I.B, sabbath bloody sabbath, paranoid, iron man, war pigs and so on....

[Brew]

really vol 4?, i dont like it as much as the others, ive only listened to it once through and it wasnt that impressive to me

i'll listen to it again maybe it will be better

Vol.4 is great, quite overlooked. It me a few listens before I really liked it.

[Exploder]

I love black sabbath for the awesome bass riffs. N.I.B, sabbath bloody sabbath, paranoid, iron man, war pigs and so on....
thats what made me want to play bass

[Wlokos]

Any heavy metal band that can write a good classical song (Changes) must be good. >_>

Sabbath rocks, though I've only heard Volume 4 and Paranoid... No point in listing my favorites, as I'd be listing every song in paranoid, and most of Volume 4.

[thickasabrick]

i really like The Wizard and NIB, but my favourite album is Paranoid.

[Ibanez4162]

I have been waiting for so long for someone to start a Sabbath Thread. well I would have to say my fave songs are War Pigs and Fairies Wear boots. Would anyone consider them classic rock? they r in the right time period, but on any threads about classic rock, i look hard for their name and can't find it.

[Exploder]

I have been waiting for so long for someone to start a Sabbath Thread. well I would have to say my fave songs are War Pigs and Fairies Wear boots. Would anyone consider them classic rock? they r in the right time period, but on any threads about classic rock, i look hard for their name and can't find it.
They are technically classic rock, but they have the more modern heavy metal sound.

[Boersch]

Mah fav songs r War Pigs and Iron Man , love iron man such a awesome song.
Sabbath r awesome!

[Psychedelic]

yeah, everyone says Iron man, it's a given 'cause it's so freakin' heavy and acid ifluenced. I just bought paranoid, though I'm sad to say it's on CD(not on a record like most of my albums) but I am stoked to have heard about a zillion times through. Heavy man, thier early stuff is the heavyest s'hit around.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^

they have WAY more acid influenced songs than that, Megalomania espically.

[JMetallica]

And EPIC influenced! Gotta love the Symptom/Mega sucession on Sabotage.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Who is everyone's favorite Sabbath guitarist?

Mine is Randy Rhoads.

[Who???Me???]

Who is everyone's favorite Sabbath guitarist?

Mine is Randy Rhoads.

Rhoads wasn't a Sabbath guitarist, i think anyway

my fav songs r most of the earlyer Sabbith and bark at the moon and i just want you by ozzy

[PermanentlyBanned]

honestly the song 'paranoid' is my life at this paticular moment in time.... EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. which is said.

[Brew]

^^^

they have WAY more acid influenced songs than that, Megalomania espically.

One of my fav. songs.

I have a live recording of it, its great.


And to the dude that question Sabbath's guitarist, there has only ever been One.

Tony Iommi.

[Veteran of the psychic wars]

Been listening to Black Sabbath & Paranoid a lot lately.
Fave song is probably The Wizard. Neat harmonica riff, nice flow to the song, and I really dig the drumming on this.

[Brew]

I want to get a harmonica and learn how to play The Wizard on that.

[MattyBlade]

laiho, rhoeds wasn't in sabbath he was in katzenjammer kids, quiet riot, and ozzy osbourne but not sabbath.

[PermanentlyBanned]

Actually before i really got into sabbath, i'd say my favorite album was paranoid... but honestly right now i think my favorite is never say die. Johnny blade is a bad *** song, I love the lyrics and everything the song is about it's so cool. Junior's eyes as well , i love the bass riff it's funky styles and virtually everything about the song appeals to me. The whole album is wonderfull and ican listen to it for hours :D

[Firecracker]

the only song i like by sabbath is "paranoid" and i like the pantera & megdeth cover of it better than the original song.
i'm not that keen on ozzy's voice.

[Brew]

Actually before i really got into sabbath, i'd say my favorite album was paranoid... but honestly right now i think my favorite is never say die. Johnny blade is a bad *** song, I love the lyrics and everything the song is about it's so cool. Junior's eyes as well , i love the bass riff it's funky styles and virtually everything about the song appeals to me. The whole album is wonderfull and ican listen to it for hours :D

Thankgod.

There's someone else here who loves Never Say Die!

Its a fantastic album, Air Dance is probably my fav. song off it, then Swinging the Chain (with Bill Ward on vocals)

[MotörheadBanger]

I don't really get why so many people don't like Ozzy's voice, but apart from that my favourite songs are Crazy Train, Changes, N.I.B., Paranoid and Iron Man.

[Brew]

I don't really get why so many people don't like Ozzy's voice, but apart from that my favourite songs are Crazy Train, Changes, N.I.B., Paranoid and Iron Man.

'tis not a Black Sabbath song.

Its a good Ozzy song though.

[Syncratic]

i think that the most epic Sabbath song (or part0 is towards the end of War Pigs....doesn't get any better.......

[shadow_stalker]

I don't really get why so many people don't like Ozzy's voice, but apart from that my favourite songs are Crazy Train, Changes, N.I.B., Paranoid and Iron Man.


yeah i dont get that either, they musn't have listened to songs like 'its alright' where bill sings :upset:

stick to drumming bill :thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

i think that the most epic Sabbath song (or part0 is towards the end of War Pigs....doesn't get any better.......

i dont know the end of iron man is pretty epic

[Brew]

yeah i dont get that either, they musn't have listened to songs like 'its alright' where bill sings :upset:

stick to drumming bill :thumb:

It's Alright and Swinging the Chain are both great songs with Bill on vocals.

Also, I have the outro to Iron Man up to speed on bass :cool:

[shadow_stalker]

im trying to learn it on guitar, i can play the very last bit but the solo is hard (iron man that is)

i dont like bills singing voice, it doesnt sound right to me (if that makes sense)

[Brew]

I have one of his solo songs called ''Straws'', its pretty good, he has an alright voice.

Sometimes Ozzy's voice is good, sometimes its not.

One example of when it's amazing is ''Solitude''.

[shadow_stalker]

never heared that

ozzys voice sounds good on the backing vocals during the chorus on 'psycho man', especially at the end when it has sped up

[Brew]

Psycho man is great, Selling my Soul is also pretty good.

I downloaded a live version of ''Scarey Dreams'' and wasn't too impressed with it though.

I think you can download ''Straws'' from Bill Wards website, I'll look for the link in a minute. The quality isn't amazing but its worth a listen.

www.billward.com

You can't get Straws anymore, but theres a few other songs to download.

Enjoy :)

[shadow_stalker]

ok thanks

i listened to vil 4 again and the only song i dont like is FX, i dont think i will ever like that song

[Brew]

FX is kinda random and not that interesting.

Under the Sun is a fantastic song, it gets really catchy at the end and has a great line ''Everyday just comes and goes, life is one long overdose''

[ToRidTheDisease]

Ozzy is my favorite singer.

[shadow_stalker]

either snowblind or supernaut are my fave of that album

is there a site, cd, dvd (and so on) with songs like 'blue swade shoes' and all the blues stuff they used to play on, some of it is really good

[Brew]

I have Blue Suede Shoes.

And ''The Lost Demos'' featuring demos of Sabbath + Ozzy songs, Black Sabbath, Iron Man, I don't Want to Change the World, Desire etc..

Its pretty good.

[shadow_stalker]

where did you get them from?

have you ever seen this site?

http://www.rdrop.com/~mjames/sabbath/index.html

[Brew]

I've never seen that site but its now bookmarked.

I got the songs from Winmx.

[shadow_stalker]

ive seen a video for blue swade shoes on mtv2, i think the album that it was off was a compilation one from henry's blues club (i think thats the right place)

if anyone is interested

[Brew]

The Beat Club?

I've seen videos of Blue Suede Shoes + Iron Man from that performance, they're pretty good.

[-Listy-]

NP, Never Say Die :)

[ToRidTheDisease]

I'm confused, what guitarists were in Black Sabbath, and which with Ozzy? Also, what's the difference?

[maggot4875]

cant pick one so nib and sweet leaf

[Chop Suey!]

How much longer do you guys think sabbath will be around for? Ive always wanted to see them live, since i was like.....5. Now im fourteen. Are there age restrictions at ozzfest? I would do anything to see sabbath!!

[bullybadbass]

I'm confused, what guitarists were in Black Sabbath, and which with Ozzy? Also, what's the difference?
Black Sabbath had one guitarist named Iommi, even during their Dio years.
Ozzy uses a guitarist named Zakk Wylde but there was one before him (maybe even two) but I don't know the difference and I think one of the guitarists were killed in a plane crash or something, is that right.
Personally, I really can't tell the difference between the guitarists

[rising_fury]

Ozzy uses a guitarist named Zakk Wylde but there was one before him (maybe even two) but I don't know the difference and I think one of the guitarists were killed in a plane crash or something, is that right.
Personally, I really can't tell the difference between the guitarists

ozzy's solo career started with randy rhoads, then i believe a guy filled in for a tour, but jake e lee (ozzy's most overlooked guitarist) took the job for a while, then jake left and zakk came on board, zakk left at some point in the 90's and ozzy recruited a guy who used to be a student of rhoads back when he taught guitar.

is there a site, cd, dvd (and so on) with songs like 'blue swade shoes' and all the blues stuff they used to play on, some of it is really good

you can get blue swede on dvd on the "Black Sabbath: The Black Sabbath Story Vol. 1" that entire dvd covers the entire ozzy years as a biography and features a bunch of live preformences. i'm off to go look for that dvd right now to post a track list, and because i wanna watch it... so i'll edit it in in a couple minutes

Edit: Weird, it wasn't there... i was sure that it was, i'm sure i've got a dvd of it somewhere

NIB Live In paris
Paranoid Belgiun Tv show
War Pigs Live in paris
Children Of The Grave Ontario Speedway California Jam April 74'
Snowblind Live in london
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath Promo vid
Symptom Of The Universe Live London
It's Alright promo vid featuring bill ward on vox
Rock And Roll Doctor promo video
Never Say Die Top of the pops
Hard Road promo video

Edit 2: Found the dvd with blue swede shoes, it's on ozzy's dvd "Don't Blame Me: The Tales Of Ozzy Osbourne" for some reason every thing about this dvd escapes me right now aside from him telling the viewers the right line in paranoid "Enjoy life" not "End your life"

[RadKeysPlayer]

My favorite Sabbath song is War Pigs. They have a lot of good tunes, but War Pigs rules.

[Iscream]

War pigs is almighty....right next to that comes snowblind....its just so uplifting. Icicles within my brain...cocaine *eigthnote*

[Brew]

ozzy's solo career started with randy rhoads, then i believe a guy filled in for a tour, but jake e lee (ozzy's most overlooked guitarist) took the job for a while, then jake left and zakk came on board, zakk left at some point in the 90's and ozzy recruited a guy who used to be a student of rhoads back when he taught guitar.

Almost right.

Black Sabbath have only ever had Tony Iommi, he IS Black Sabbath, without him there's nothing to the band. He quit in 1970 to play for Jeffro Tull, he was with them for about 3 weeks then he returned to Black Sabbath.

When Ozzy was sacked from the band, he started his solo career with Randy Rhoads, who was killed in a plane crash in 1982. Then on the 'Speak of the Devil' tour, there was a replacement guitarist who I forget the name of.

Jake.E Lee was on Bark at the Moon(1985?) and The Ultimate Sin.(1986/7?)

Zakk Wylde was on No Rest for the Wicked(1988), No More Tears(1991?), Live and Loud(1993), Ozzmosis(1995) and Down to Earth(2001?).

There was a rumour flying around that Jerry Cantrell is supposed to on the next Ozzy solo album, but I have no idea how true that is.

[Brew]

How much longer do you guys think sabbath will be around for? Ive always wanted to see them live, since i was like.....5. Now im fourteen. Are there age restrictions at ozzfest? I would do anything to see sabbath!!

Ozzy has about 5 - 10 years left in him max.

Dio has said that he'd like to work with Iommi again, but he doesn't want to work with Geezer or Bill.

I think the original line-up have about 2 more tours left in them, then Black Sabbath will most likely call it a day.

Although, Black Sabbath will only finish doing their thing, when Tony Iommi decides to call it a day, seeing as he IS Sabbath. He owns all the rights to the name etc...

[Chop Suey!]

Ozzy has about 5 - 10 years left in him max.

Dio has said that he'd like to work with Iommi again, but he doesn't want to work with Geezer or Bill.

I think the original line-up have about 2 more tours left in them, then Black Sabbath will most likely call it a day.

Although, Black Sabbath will only finish doing their thing, when Tony Iommi decides to call it a day, seeing as he IS Sabbath. He owns all the rights to the name etc...

Oh my god....I have to see them. They are my all time favorite band.......at reunion, was there an age restriction?

[Chop Suey!]

by reunion, I meant the reunion tour of 2000

[Brew]

It depends on the venue.

Most places have an age restriction of either 12 or 14, unless its a club where the age restriction is 18.

But Sabbath shows should be all ages.

[Chop Suey!]

what about ozzfest? I want to go next year.....

[Brew]

When I went in 2002 at Donington, I think it was if you were 12 or under, you had to be accompanied by an adult, over the age of 12 was fine.

Something along those lines, but don't expect Sabbath to headline next year if Ozzy gets a new album out anytime soon.

[Chop Suey!]

Ok, cool. Anyway, my favorite Sabbath song would have to be either Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or War Pigs. I also like children of the sea.

[4stringFanatic]

Me being a bassist you just gotta love NIB for Geezer's beast *** intro solo

(>'.')>
<( '.' )>
<('.'<)

[Brew]

That solo is so much fun to improvise with, and with added Wah its even better.

[rising_fury]

Almost right.

Black Sabbath have only ever had Tony Iommi, he IS Black Sabbath, without him there's nothing to the band. He quit in 1970 to play for Jeffro Tull, he was with them for about 3 weeks then he returned to Black Sabbath.

When Ozzy was sacked from the band, he started his solo career with Randy Rhoads, who was killed in a plane crash in 1982. Then on the 'Speak of the Devil' tour, there was a replacement guitarist who I forget the name of.

Jake.E Lee was on Bark at the Moon(1985?) and The Ultimate Sin.(1986/7?)

Zakk Wylde was on No Rest for the Wicked(1988), No More Tears(1991?), Live and Loud(1993), Ozzmosis(1995) and Down to Earth(2001?).

There was a rumour flying around that Jerry Cantrell is supposed to on the next Ozzy solo album, but I have no idea how true that is.

how is mine almost right when you describe pretty much the same thing but with more time details?

[Brew]

how is mine almost right when you describe pretty much the same thing but with more time details?

You said Zakk quit in the 90's.

And I just felt like making a long post.

[rising_fury]

zakk did leave in the 90's, but i meant he stopped touring with ozzy. this was after ozzmosis (obviously)

[Brew]

zakk did leave in the 90's, but i meant he stopped touring with ozzy. this was after ozzmosis (obviously)

He left to work with BLS right?

Then he came back to Ozzy for Down to Earth seeing as between 1997 and 1999 Ozzy was back with Sabbath.

[rising_fury]

He left to work with BLS right?

Then he came back to Ozzy for Down to Earth seeing as between 1997 and 1999 Ozzy was back with Sabbath.

yeah, but zakk left after ozzmosis, and another dude was brought in, most likely joe holmes ( i was just looking for this on the net and nobody has any info... i hate this crap)

joe holmes is also the dude who you see playing guitar in the perry mason video

I"M NOT CRAZY!!! I SWEAR I"M NOT!!!

[unflea]

Black Sabbath are classic, one of a handful of bands I'm always able to spin and enjoy. Geezer's awesome bass playing made me want to learn. :smoke: Favorite songs? ...

Hand of Doom
Electric Funeral
War Pigs
Snowblind
The Wizard
N.I.B.
Supernaut
etc.

Anything before Ozzy left -- not because I love Ozzy, but 'cause that was basically their creative high point.

[Brew]

yeah, but zakk left after ozzmosis, and another dude was brought in, most likely joe holmes ( i was just looking for this on the net and nobody has any info... i hate this crap)

joe holmes is also the dude who you see playing guitar in the perry mason video

I"M NOT CRAZY!!! I SWEAR I"M NOT!!!

Ah, I learn something new everyday.

I didn't think it was Zakk in the Perry Mason video, I've never been 100% sure.

[Brooksyd2]

I agree with you unflea, although I like Sabbath still when Dio joined, Mob Rules being an awesome album, the spirit of the band when Ozzy was with them cannot be matched! The first album I heard of theirs was Paranoid and Hand of Doom is basically responsible for me learning guitar! My favourite songs would have to be;

Hand Of Doom
The Wizard
N.I.B
Fluff
The Warning

As a side question, does anyone know of which release of Black Sabbath (the album) the song The Warning was released on? As I understand it it is not on every release but some kind of special edition unless im mistaken! Which is a shame because that song really demonstrates Iommi's ablilties IMO, it almost feels like an improvised track in some places....Awesome! (sorry for the long post)

[Brew]

To my knowledge, The Warning was on both the European and the USA release of Black Sabbath.

The differences in the album were with the songs Evil Woman and Wicked World.

The Europeans got Evil Woman on the original release of Black Sabbath, because an American band/artist wrote the song and there was something to do with copywrites that they couldn't be arsed sorting out, so they put Wicked World on the American release of Black Sabbath.

So we got Evil Woman, and America got Wicked World, neither got both.

But these days, the re-masters of Black Sabbath have all the tracks on:

Black Sabbath
The Wizard
Behind the Wall of Sleep
N.I.B
Evil Woman
Wicked World
Sleeping Village/The Warning

Also, The Warning is one of my fav. Sabbath songs to play on bass, there's so much room for improvising, its great.

[rising_fury]

god****it, not i have to go get a new copy of their s/t album... i should just get the box set though

[TerryThorne]

So, do they sell the individual remastered cd's? I just heard that the box set had digitally remastered albums but never seen a remastered individual

[bullybadbass]

So, do they sell the individual remastered cd's? I just heard that the box set had digitally remastered albums but never seen a remastered individual
yes, black sabbath digitally remastered albums can be bought individually, personally the best one to get is "Master of Reality" their 1971 album (remastered in 1996).

[Brew]

yes, black sabbath digitally remastered albums can be bought individually, personally the best one to get is "Master of Reality" their 1971 album (remastered in 1996).

I highly recommend you don't get the 1996 Castle re-masters, in two words:

they're shite.

The band didn't ask them to be re-mastered, it was a record company thing.

Getting the box-set would be a good start, a bit expensive but you get every song from every album.

Even ''Blow on a Jug'' at the end of ''The Writ'' from the Sabotage album.

Blow on a Jug is basicly Ozzy and Bill fooling around in the studio with a piano, its about 32seconds long and is only on the old vinyl pressings, old re-masters and the new box-set editions of Sabotage.

If you have a vinyl copy of Sabotage, at the end of The Writ, turn your volume up loud to hear the short song.

[rising_fury]

lord, you seem like a fairly knowledgable sabbath fan with an amusing avatar. do you happen to know what track on sabbath bloody sabbath featuring the anvil?

[Brew]

lord, you seem like a fairly knowledgable sabbath fan with an amusing avatar. do you happen to know what track on sabbath bloody sabbath featuring the anvil?

There's a song on SBS featuring an Anvil?

I know too much about Sabbath, i r teh sabbath nerd. :cool:

But I'm confused about this anvil thing, care to explain? :)

[rising_fury]

alright, in the september issue of guitar world, tony iommi was on the cover (yeah, i know it was a special duel cover with an alternate of judas priest) and in it tony iommi was talking about sabbath bloody sabbath.

during the recording of sabbath bloody sabbath, bill experimented highly and "highly: ;). one day he brought in a metal bathtub, filled it with water and stuck and anvil in there and smacked the anvil making sounds. and those sounds made it onto the album someplace at bill's demand.

[Brew]

alright, in the september issue of guitar world, tony iommi was on the cover (yeah, i know it was a special duel cover with an alternate of judas priest) and in it tony iommi was talking about sabbath bloody sabbath.

during the recording of sabbath bloody sabbath, bill experimented highly and "highly: ;). one day he brought in a metal bathtub, filled it with water and stuck and anvil in there and smacked the anvil making sounds. and those sounds made it onto the album someplace at bill's demand.

:lol:

Thats fantastic.

Do you know what songs got the joy of having Bill's anvil added to them?

[rising_fury]

i was asking you that question

[Brew]

i was asking you that question

I see.

/me puts on SBS

[Brew]

I kinda listened to the first few mins of each track on SBS, and at a guess I'd say that ''Looking for Today'' has Bill's crazy anvil playing on it in those few mins.

[rising_fury]

i'm going to have to give sbs a good listenin to soon... but i don't think it's on looking for today, could be wrong

[rising_fury]

although it'd really help if i knew what the hell it actually sounded like

[Brew]

I've only got a vinyl version, so it should be interesting to try and pick out the anvil.

[rising_fury]

i wish i had an anvil and a metal bathtub, i'd experiment :p

[Brew]

I wish I was high.

Have you seen The Black Sabbath story Vol.1? The bit about Tony playing the Flute is great.

[IbanezAxer]

Black Sabbath is my favorite band!
i so wish i joined this forum thing earlier

[Brew]

Welcome aboard :wave:

Feel free to add anything to this thread :)

[shadow_stalker]

I wish I was high.

Have you seen The Black Sabbath story Vol.1? The bit about Tony playing the Flute is great.

that dvd is great, i like the story about ozzy beating that guy up in the crowd (i think its at the end)

whats the volume 2 dvd like? i was thinking about getting it but it doesnt have ozzy on so i didnt bother

[Brew]

The only times I've seen Vol.2 in the shops, is when I have no money.

But I'm going to get it, I know some stuff about the years of 1979 - 1992 but I'd like to get the DVD for the videos etc...

[shadow_stalker]

im not sure if i want it because i dont like dio and i havnt heared the other singers, well ive heared some guy on the best of black sabbath (its one of the last 3 on disc 2)

[Brew]

I don't have that best of, but at a guess I'd say its either Tony Martin or Glen Hughes.

I like Dio, not only is he a short little dude, but he's got a great voice.

[shadow_stalker]

i dont like dio, probably because he took over from ozzy but to me sabbath will aways be toni iommi, bill ward, geezer butler and ozzy osbourne

woo post 1000!!!

[Brew]

:chug:

Well done.

[shadow_stalker]

thanks

a couple pages back you said that you downloaded some of their songs, what did you use?

[Brew]

Winmx.

I'm using it right now to get some Blind Guardian, the songs I downloaded were:

Born Again
Trashed
Zero the Hero
7th Star

They're all pretty good, with 7th Star being my fav. out of that list.

[guitarmh2004]

Sabbath & Zeppelin do have their similarities and although they came from the same area(Birmingham,England...'cept for Jones & Page) at the same time and Zeppelin definitely came first but the big difference is that Sabbath never ripped off anyone's music ever and Zepp pretty much stole from other musicians left and right.

they do a little bit, but not too much

[shadow_stalker]

**** i tried downloading winmx earlier and it didnt work, oh well

ive decided to stop hating all sabbath singers that arent god (ozzy), what albums would you recommend (not dio albums i still dont like him)

[Brew]

I've heard good thing about Headless Cross and 7th Star.

It'd be better to ask Frail about the non-Ozzy albums, he has them all.

[shadow_stalker]

ok next time i see him i will try to remember to ask, but if the album costs more than £10 then i will get master of reality instead

[Brew]

Good plan.

Solitude is one of the best tracks on Master for vocals. Ozzy's voice is amazing on it.

[The0zzfanCometh]

Black Sabbath rocked when Ozzy was still with them. I think the dumbest thing any band has ever done was when they kicked him out. In my opinion, Ozzy is the best singer/musician there ever was, and still is. :thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

ive never heared that before i should have got master of reality last time i was at the metro centre but instead i got re-load by metallica (what a waste of ****ing money!!!)

i dont see why so many people think that ozzy's voice is ****, when there are far worse vocalists out there

[shadow_stalker]

Black Sabbath rocked when Ozzy was still with them. I think the dumbest thing any band has ever done was when they kicked him out. In my opinion, Ozzy is the best singer/musician there ever was, and still is. :thumb:


if toni hadnt decided to get rid of him there wouldnt be great songs like crazy train and no more tears, there would be no ozzfest, there would be no ozzy poster on my wall, instead there would be a sabbath one with toni in the midle (even though guitarists shouldnt be, *vol 4 tour*) and most of all they would probably be dead

[Brew]

Tony > Ozzy

Its good that Ozzy got kicked out, the band would have self-destructed otherwise, and Tony deserves centre stage over Ozzy, he was the dude in Sabbath and always has been.

[The0zzfanCometh]

joe holmes is also the dude who you see playing guitar in the perry mason video

Where can you find any Ozzy or Black Sabbath videos? Thanks

[The0zzfanCometh]

if toni hadnt decided to get rid of him there wouldnt be great songs like crazy train and no more tears, there would be no ozzfest, there would be no ozzy poster on my wall, instead there would be a sabbath one with toni in the midle (even though guitarists shouldnt be, *vol 4 tour*) and most of all they would probably be dead

Good point! I never thought of it that way.... I don't know how the world would have gotten along without Crazy Train! lol But I have to disagree with anyone who says Tony was the best Black Sabbath member. Sorry :D

[shadow_stalker]

Tony > Ozzy

Its good that Ozzy got kicked out, the band would have self-destructed otherwise, and Tony deserves centre stage over Ozzy, he was the dude in Sabbath and always has been.


dude i cant believe you just said that! there is no way tony owns ozzy, ozzy is god, sure tony is a great guitarist but so was randy rhoads (RIP) he never demanded to be in the centre, guitarists shouldnt take centre stage unless they are also the singer

Ozzy > tony :thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

Good point! I never thought of it that way.... I don't know how the world would have gotten along without Crazy Train! lol But I have to disagree with anyone who says Tony was the best Black Sabbath member. Sorry :D

yes get their in mate, tony isnt the best member of sabbath (well apart from when he was the only origional member)

[The0zzfanCometh]

Ozzy > tony

YES! And of course who could ever forget the great Randy Rhoads?

[Brew]

YES! And of course who could ever forget the great Randy Rhoads?

Its not hard, seeing as he was never in Black Sabbath.

[Brew]

Please stop mentioning Randy Rhoads in this Black Sabbath thread, he has nothing to do with the Sabs.

Ozzy may be a god, but he didn't keep Sabbath going for 30 years, Tony did.
Ozzy got screwed up on drugs and got himself booted from the band, leaving Tony to keep things going.

For the past 20 years, Ozzy has been nothing to Black Sabbath, they did fine without him and I'd like to see a re-union tour of the MkII line up with Dio, and maybe re-unions of the later line-ups.

And Tony deserves centre stage, he IS Black Sabbath, he formed the band, kept it going through tough times, never giving up what he loves best.

[shadow_stalker]

ozzy has done fine for past 20 years without them too.

they did do a reunion with dio back in the eightees didnt they? they made one album and dio left again

it wasnt all tony that formed sabbath him and bill were in a band together before that, ozzy and geezer were in a band before sabbath, they just got together, and before it was sabbath (during the pulka tulk days) they had a rythm guitarist called jim phillips and a saxophonist called alan clarke, so they could also claim that the had a hand in making sabbath aswell.

then there is jim simpson who was their first manager, he introduced them to alot of the jazz influences in their music aswell as some of the blues (thats all i got on him)

[rising_fury]

tony did write every great sabbath riff, and let's face it, if it wasn't for the riffs, sabbath would've been nothing.

and yes, i have seen the black sabbath stories 1&2 (they're sitting right next to me) they're pretty cool, but it's been a long time since i've watched vol. 2... i'm gonna pop it in right now

[Brew]

They re-formed with Dio in between 1990 and 1992, to record Dehumanizer.

[shadow_stalker]

i knew they reformed with him somewhere along the lines

[Brew]

He left because he didn't feel that Sabbath should open for Ozzy on the two shows in The Costa Mesa back in 1992, which is why Rob Halford filled in.

[shadow_stalker]

yeah i heared something about that but didnt know if it was true or not

[The0zzfanCometh]

And Tony deserves centre stage, he IS Black Sabbath, he formed the band, kept it going through tough times, never giving up what he loves best.

I still don't think Tony should get all the credit. It took all of Black Sabbath to keep it going through tough times. And Ozzy did not give up what he loves best when he got booted out; he became even better (If that's possible. :) He is and always was awesome).

[TerryThorne]

Does anyone have the black box? Is it worth it to spend the money for it?

[Bongo Extraordinaire]

Lets put it this way, Sabbath was renound for being the founding (and possibly the best) heavy metal band, mainly coz of Iommi's classic low key riffs. This still, however, made Ozzy famous because he was literally at the front of it all. When ozzy went solo later on, the only thing keeping him alive in the spotlight was studio editing. His voice was edited to sound significantly better than before when he was sabbath frontman. This aint bullsh!t. Sure Iommi wasn't much without Ozzy as well, but he sure as hell was the dominating reason both of them got where they are today (in my own, unedited opinion).





BTW, my fav songs = Behind the Wall Of Sleep, War Pigs, Iron Man, Electric Funeral, Fairies Wear Boots, Lord Of This World.........Sabbath rule!!!

[heinrichkuhn]

All their songs are bloody great! Their best album is probably Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

Black Sabbath are awesome.

My favourites include Paranoid, Iron Man, NIB and War Pigs.

[shadow_stalker]

bongoextrasrdonaire listen to ozzys live albums they sound brilliant and they havnt been touched by studio engineering, ozzy doesnt do that on every single song, he isnt britney spears

[crossface]

Sabbath question:

I heard there was a song by Black Sabbath called "Black Sabbath"... What Black Sabbath album is that song from? or is it not????
I dont know because, i dont know much about them from the beginning.

thanks

[shadow_stalker]

there is a song called black sabbath, its on their first album aslo called black sabbath

[crossface]

there is a song called black sabbath, its on their first album aslo called black sabbath

thanks for the help dude :thumb:

Black Sabbath rocks

[JACKROXYOU]

They were one of the first band to show that a bass could kick ***. N.I.B. the bass rocked. But hell all Of Sabbath rocked
Snowblind,NIB,Warpigs,Black Sabbath,(Sabbath, Bloody, Sabbath),Paranoid, The Wizard.

[ToRidTheDisease]

They were one of the first band to show that a bass could kick ***. N.I.B. the bass rocked. But hell all Of Sabbath rocked
Snowblind,NIB,Warpigs,Black Sabbath,(Sabbath, Bloody, Sabbath),Paranoid, The Wizard.
The intro to NIB kicks ***.

[Zefferon]

Agreed. In fact, Black Sabbath has my favorite bass lines of all time. Also, they had two of the greatest metal vocalists of all time with them.

The major problem with Black Sabbath are the dumbasses who claim to be huge Sabbath fans, but only know 2 songs from Paranoid plus a few Ozzy solo songs they think are related to Black Sabbath. They ruined Sabbath for me for awhile.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Agreed. In fact, Black Sabbath has my favorite bass lines of all time. Also, they had two of the greatest metal vocalists of all time with them.

The major problem with Black Sabbath are the dumbasses who claim to be huge Sabbath fans, but only know 2 songs from Paranoid plus a few Ozzy solo songs they think are related to Black Sabbath. They ruined Sabbath for me for awhile.
Like people that say "Black Sabbath is the best band ever" "What's your' favorite Sabbath song?" "Crazy Train".

[chips88]

Superaut is a great one. and of course Iron Man, War Pigs, Paranoid. I also like Fairies Wear Boots, if only for the lyrics

[JACKROXYOU]

Yea Fairy's wear boots is a good song and everything but the lyrics kinda get me. but it's still cool. I hate when people think Crazy Train, Mr. Crowley, Hellraiser, etc. =Black Sabbath.
It Kills me.

[Johnny B. Good]

What about Paranoia

[Zefferon]

You mean Paranoid? Awesome album. Each song is a classic. But the song Paranoid itself reeks of last-minute time-filler. But that's the laminations of most Sabbath fans.

My favorite albums are Black Sabbath, Paranoid, and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Heaven and Hell also rules, but the second half just doesn't match up to the first half. Also, I just got a couple of Bootlegs, one from Asbury Park in 75' and one from San Fransisco from '71. Both kick ***.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I love Paranoid.

[Charmand G]

Into the Void ....my favourite.

[Brew]

Agreed. In fact, Black Sabbath has my favorite bass lines of all time. Also, they had two of the greatest metal vocalists of all time with them.

The major problem with Black Sabbath are the dumbasses who claim to be huge Sabbath fans, but only know 2 songs from Paranoid plus a few Ozzy solo songs they think are related to Black Sabbath. They ruined Sabbath for me for awhile.

Thats about half of the people in this thread, it really annoys me when people say they love Sabbath, then point out their greatest hits as being their fav. songs, it just seems like everyone ignores the Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die! albums of the Ozzy-era. Both of which are fantastic, yet hugely overlooked.

[Zefferon]

Technical Ecstasy is a good album, I'll admit. But on the other hand it might not be mentioned because it's not that great compared to the earlier albums. Or the first 2 with Dio.

I have yet to hear Never Say Die, though.

[Brew]

In my opinion...they're both as good as the rest of the Ozzy-era Sabbath albums, I'd rather listen to Never Say Die than Paranoid.

[rising_fury]

You mean Paranoid? Awesome album. Each song is a classic. But the song Paranoid itself reeks of last-minute time-filler. But that's the laminations of most Sabbath fans.

it was album filler, they've admitted it and were amazed by how popular the name was. hell, the record company changed the albums name without telling the band, it was originally called war pigs. which is evidently what is on the cover of the album

[Brew]

Paranoid(the song) was written in the space of about 5minutes, they didn't even know what the word meant when they were writing the song.

[xDizzy]

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[Brew]

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[JACKROXYOU]

Hey look Teenage garden

Stupid.

Anyways, I know good old paranoid is a filler i wouldnt know anything about rock if i didnt. It has simple lyrics simple but(kickass) guitar riff and solo. 10 min top

I dont know about the solo actually its cool but but i dont know the distortion is cool sometimes but other times it sound really bad.

[shadow_stalker]

Paranoid(the song) was written in the space of about 5minutes, they didn't even know what the word meant when they were writing the song.

thats what geezer says on the story of.. vol 1

i know it not really sabbath but has anyone heared the origional version of black sabbath and war pigs that are on ozzy's ozzman cometh album?

[Brew]

^I have the demo of Black Sabbath, with the added verse.

On the story vol.1, War Pigs has its alternate lyrics, back when it was called Warpurlgis, at least I think they're the alternate lyrics, I know for sure Ozzy is singing something different to the album version.

[shadow_stalker]

vol 1's version is better, the lyrics are defiantly different to the ozzman cometh's version

too bad they had to change so much stuff back when the album paranoid was called war pigs

[Brew]

Vietnam++

I guess it saved them from getting even more bad press than what they were getting anyway.

[shadow_stalker]

theres no such thing as bad press

[Brew]

Touché

[blackshuck]

Black Sabbath are the fathers of heavy metal, I think their best song has to be War pigs or their title song (Black Sabbath) the ultimate sinister riff it makes you want to walk through the street wearing a black cape and hiss at people. Or is that just me.

[Brew]

^Another one.

*sigh*

[shadow_stalker]

the ultimate sinister riff it makes you want to walk through the street wearing a black cape and hiss at people. Or is that just me.

i think thats just you mate

i think "warning" is a really overlooked song (is it a cover or not?)

[JACKROXYOU]

i am kinda positve warning isnt a cover but dont quote me.

I already did walk around in a black cape. just kiddin.

I heard they got bad buzz back in the day about war pigs= vietnam

[shadow_stalker]

sabbath got bad press for everything, even their name

but again, theres no such thing as bad publicity

[JACKROXYOU]

amen

[ToRidTheDisease]

Hey, i'm wondering, what sabbath/ozzy song has your favorite lyrics in it?

[TerryThorne]

warning or electric funeral

[shadow_stalker]

do you mean sabbath songs from the ozzy era or sabbath and ozzy songs seperatly?

anyway

hand of doom, sabbra cadabbra or wicked world - sabbath

hellraiser, gets me through or runniong out of time - ozzy

[JACKROXYOU]

My favorite lyrics... hmmmm

Children of the grave

oz by himself uh hellraiser sounds good

[enpsychopedia]

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[JACKROXYOU]

what the

who is this guy

[King_Karl]

my fave sabbath song is Iron Man but i've only been a fan for about a year. No one told me how much they rocked :(

[JACKROXYOU]

yes the past seems to fade now. KEEP THE FIGHT FOLKS!!!

[ToRidTheDisease]

do you mean sabbath songs from the ozzy era or sabbath and ozzy songs seperatly?

anyway

hand of doom, sabbra cadabbra or wicked world - sabbath

hellraiser, gets me through or runniong out of time - ozzy
I mean any ozzy or sabbath songs.

[towniceman]

Black Sabbath songs I like -Sweetleaf,Paranoid ,Iron Man ,Mob Rules ect....

[JACKROXYOU]

Ok folk a quick question (iknow the anwser dont worry)

Name each member of black sabbath(dead or alive) and all the instruments they play(ALL!!)

[JMetallica]

Holy crap, there's like 40 of them!

[Zefferon]

it was album filler, they've admitted it and were amazed by how popular the name was. hell, the record company changed the albums name without telling the band, it was originally called war pigs. which is evidently what is on the cover of the album
Yes, I already knew all that when I wrote the comment. It was ment as a "it was written as filler, it sounds like filler, and it feels like filler" sort of thing.