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Eitri Is Berserk
01-14-2005, 05:11 PM
I wouldn't bring up paranoid every post. Its not as good as some other sabbath songs, IMO. I personally like Supernaut better. What does TYR stand for?:upset: I havn't heard much past Ozzy era.

shadow_stalker
01-14-2005, 05:25 PM
the ozzy era is my favourite (mainly because i havnt listend to anyone like dio or martin that much but never mind)

im going to bed so good night sheep-shaggers wherever you may be :wave:


(not trying to offend anyone with that post)

ToRidTheDisease
01-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Tyr is a sky and war god, and the son of Odin.

rippa32
01-14-2005, 05:45 PM
At a guess....4

5 actually.

Eternal Idol
Headless Cross
Tyr
Cross Purposes
Forbidden

In that order.

Brew
01-14-2005, 06:28 PM
Ah yes, Ray Gillan was supposed to be on Eternal Idol but left soon after recording his vocals.

JACKROXYOU
01-14-2005, 06:54 PM
thats tony on eternal idol?

IAJP
01-14-2005, 06:55 PM
:eek:
really?!

JACKROXYOU
01-14-2005, 06:56 PM
hey dont ask me i dont know (heh ozzy reference)

Brew
01-14-2005, 06:58 PM
^Terrible plug.

/me checks

Yep, Tony was on:

Eternal Idol
Headless Cross
TYR
Cross Purposes
Forbidden

That made him the second longest serving Black Sabbath vocalist

JACKROXYOU
01-14-2005, 07:16 PM
^Terrible plug.

/me checks

Yep, Tony was on:

Eternal Idol
Headless Cross
TYR
Cross Purposes
Forbidden

That made him the second longest serving Black Sabbath vocalist

i couldnt resist

rippa32
01-15-2005, 06:09 AM
It would be nice to hear how Ray Gillen sounded.

JACKROXYOU
01-15-2005, 01:13 PM
is there not an album where ray sings?

shadow_stalker
01-15-2005, 02:03 PM
about 4 weeks an sabbaths first album will be 35 years old

Brew
01-15-2005, 02:08 PM
^Pointed that out a few pages ago.

Then there was a silly arguement about when Sabbath first started.

Also, you might be able to get some Ray Gillan stuff off a p2p.

shadow_stalker
01-15-2005, 02:11 PM
yeah buit i just got an email from joe siegler so i just thought i would say

Brew
01-15-2005, 03:15 PM
Hehe.

IAJP
01-15-2005, 03:35 PM
I'm gonna have to download some sabbath tracks with Tony singing,
I just haven't got round to it yet :(

shadow_stalker
01-15-2005, 03:53 PM
i didnt know tony sang on any

EDIT: sorry i thought you ment tony iommi but you were probably talking about martin


who sings cardinal sin?

Brew
01-15-2005, 04:00 PM
Maybe he means Tony Martin?

So....I put Live Evil onto cd today after having it on my comp from vinyl for a few weeks.

All I have to say is:

What
A
Joke!

The album totalled at 82mins or so, which meant I had to do some song editing.

I had to:

Cut out all of Fluff
Make E5150 about 40seconds shorter
Cut out aload of crowd cheering

It took ages.

But, I now have Live Evil on cd, along with Headless Cross.

Yay :)

shadow_stalker
01-15-2005, 04:19 PM
you could have just bought the cd

Brew
01-15-2005, 04:42 PM
But I got it on vinyl ages ago and I can't be arsed searching shops for it to find it priced at around £15

ToRidTheDisease
01-15-2005, 04:52 PM
Also, Vinyl > CD.

shadow_stalker
01-15-2005, 04:56 PM
fair enough

good night all :wave:

rippa32
01-15-2005, 05:01 PM
Maybe he means Tony Martin?

So....I put Live Evil onto cd today after having it on my comp from vinyl for a few weeks.

All I have to say is:

What
A
Joke!

The album totalled at 82mins or so, which meant I had to do some song editing.

I had to:

Cut out all of Fluff
Make E5150 about 40seconds shorter
Cut out aload of crowd cheering

It took ages.

But, I now have Live Evil on cd, along with Headless Cross.

Yay :)


Live Evil is a double album right?
So why didn't you just use 1 cd for each vinyl record rather than try to fit both records on one cd?

Deterium216
01-15-2005, 05:21 PM
dude, just buy the cds, they're not that expensive if you know where to look. I mean, pounds into $$ is at about 2&1, right? if you're spending 30$ on a cd, than you should just get napster or kazaa. And anyway, aren't all of the post-ozzy non-imports dirt cheap anyway? I mean, I picked up Tyr for about six bucks.

rippa32
01-15-2005, 05:30 PM
6 bucks? thats alright. But btw he has explained before that he prefers the sound of vinyl.

ToRidTheDisease
01-15-2005, 06:09 PM
dude, just buy the cds, they're not that expensive if you know where to look. I mean, pounds into $$ is at about 2&1, right? if you're spending 30$ on a cd, than you should just get napster or kazaa. And anyway, aren't all of the post-ozzy non-imports dirt cheap anyway? I mean, I picked up Tyr for about six bucks.
But Vinyl sounds better than CD.

Brew
01-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Live Evil is a double album right?
So why didn't you just use 1 cd for each vinyl record rather than try to fit both records on one cd?

The cd version has all the songs on one cd :(

Its an 80min album, I'm not too fussed about chopping out Fluff because its only the album version being played and crowd cheering is nothing special.

I knocked it down to 80mins and 1 second in the end, it burnt fine.

And to the n00b:

1. I refuse to download albums
2. I love vinyl
3. $1 is approx. £1.89 at the moment
4. Over here all the Sabbath albums are priced the same, regardless of singer.
5. I like making 5 point posts.
6. :eek: Taking it too far with number 6

JACKROXYOU
01-15-2005, 09:01 PM
The cd version has all the songs on one cd :(

Its an 80min album, I'm not too fussed about chopping out Fluff because its only the album version being played and crowd cheering is nothing special.

I knocked it down to 80mins and 1 second in the end, it burnt fine.

And to the n00b:

1. I refuse to download albums
2. I love vinyl
3. $1 is approx. £1.89 at the moment
4. Over here all the Sabbath albums are priced the same, regardless of singer.
5. I like making 5 point posts.
6. :eek: Taking it too far with number 6

:eek: 6!! thats crazy!!

rippa32
01-16-2005, 04:36 AM
The cd version has all the songs on one cd :(


That was just one release it is usually two cd's. ( I read a lot of stuff from joe sieglers site)

Brew
01-16-2005, 06:05 AM
Ok.

I didn't really want to use 2 cd's for an 82min album though when they hold 80mins.

JACKROXYOU
01-16-2005, 09:28 AM
makes sense

shadow_stalker
01-16-2005, 02:27 PM
woo black sabbath is third in the most recent polls (just thought i would say)

im thinking of ordering dehumanizer off amazon, think its worth it?

Brew
01-16-2005, 02:56 PM
^Go for it.

Its next on my list of Sabbath albums to buy.

shadow_stalker
01-16-2005, 02:59 PM
i wasnt sure whether to buy that or never say die, but since i only have ozzy-sabbath albums i might as well go for a change of pace

rippa32
01-16-2005, 05:20 PM
woo black sabbath is third in the most recent polls (just thought i would say)

im thinking of ordering dehumanizer off amazon, think its worth it?

Yeah dehumanizer is quite a good album. Every song is great.

JACKROXYOU
01-16-2005, 06:52 PM
black sabbath isnt doing to good on poll g

rippa32
01-17-2005, 04:08 AM
Was there any live albums from Tony Martin?

floyd.the.barber
01-17-2005, 07:21 AM
no :wave:

shadow_stalker
01-17-2005, 07:30 AM
black sabbath isnt doing to good on poll g

sabbath wont do well on any polls because people on this forum are so obsessed with metallica, iron maiden and led zepp that they wont vote for anyone else (well thats what i think)

floyd.the.barber
01-17-2005, 07:32 AM
i voted black sabbath :wave:

shadow_stalker
01-17-2005, 07:52 AM
i voted sabbath aswell

shadow_stalker
01-17-2005, 07:53 AM
what is everyones favourite live sabbath album?

mines probably 'past lives' or 'reunion'


hey my post count is on 1970 which is the year the first sabbath album was released :amaze:

i now refuse to post anymore

heaven or hell?
01-17-2005, 08:29 AM
i will now be talking so if you want to talk to shadow_stalker talk to me :thumb:

so its good-bye 'shadow_stalker' and hello 'heaven or hell?'


(until i forget that im not posting as shadow and go back on)

JACKROXYOU
01-17-2005, 09:31 AM
smooth

i voted for sabbath to and i like reunion better

Brew
01-17-2005, 10:14 AM
Was there any live albums from Tony Martin?

Yes.

Well...a live video.

The Cross Purposes tour got recorded but wasn't supposed to be released, the record company had it released anyway.

I've seen bits of it, Tony Martin has a fantastic voice.

heaven or hell?
01-17-2005, 01:42 PM
isnt that what happend with a tour form vol 4?

i think it became live at last

Josh
01-17-2005, 01:57 PM
yes of course i know what you are talking about, with my extensive sabbath knowledge... (yes i am very sarcastic). anyway, black sabbath wasnt doing too badly in the album poll last time i checked.
anyway, whats happened to kredkee?

shadow_stalker
01-17-2005, 01:57 PM
so in the end i didnt order dehumanizer as im going away on saturday

and i got sick of posting as 'heaven or hell?' so im gonna keep going with shadow...fun i bet you all wanted to know that :rolleyes:

shadow_stalker
01-17-2005, 02:18 PM
i was thinking he got banned but he isnt, maybe he doesnt like sabbath anymore... :lol: :lol: :lol:

might just be on holiday or something

JACKROXYOU
01-17-2005, 06:01 PM
yea holiday...

rippa32
01-17-2005, 11:54 PM
Yes.

Well...a live video.

The Cross Purposes tour got recorded but wasn't supposed to be released, the record company had it released anyway.

I've seen bits of it, Tony Martin has a fantastic voice.

Is said video on DVD?

Brew
01-18-2005, 03:57 AM
^Not that I know of.

Search Amazon for it, they may have a copy.

Edit: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004CP2G/qid=1106042379/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2_2/026-3142397-4442837

I might buy it soon.

rippa32
01-18-2005, 04:26 AM
Is it safe to order things internationaly from amazon? As I do not live in the UK.

rippa32
01-18-2005, 04:39 AM
Does anyone know how sabbath went in the polls?

ArcLite
01-18-2005, 04:41 AM
A. I've never found a reason not to trust Amazon for anything. I love them.
B. What poll are we referring to?

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 04:41 AM
i think its safe to order ibternationally, where do you live?

i dont think they went through becasue of all the metallica fanboys around here

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 04:43 AM
A. I've never found a reason not to trust Amazon for anything. I love them.
B. What poll are we referring to?

there have been album polls in the sticky part, most of it is balls but there is the occasional good band...like sabbath

rippa32
01-18-2005, 04:50 AM
i think its safe to order ibternationally, where do you live?

i dont think they went through becasue of all the metallica fanboys around here

I live in australia.

Tis a shame about the fanboys. No offence to anyone but I just dont see whats great about Metallica. I do have one of their albums and it is good but not as good as some people say.

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 04:57 AM
is there not an amazon for astralia?

try amazon.com

Josh
01-18-2005, 05:25 AM
amazon.com should ship to most countries. or i think you could try play.com, i think theyre international but i dont know what sabbath they stock

.:HIM:.
01-18-2005, 05:28 AM
im more of a e-bay person there pretty good cause you have to join and that. except some dumb nut bought a air guitar for $80

.:HIM:.
01-18-2005, 05:29 AM
Australia my friend A U S T R A L I A sound it out

Josh
01-18-2005, 05:30 AM
that is pretty dumb. although ebay is good, i got a 128 mb mp3 player (yes i know its tiny) for £28, thats probably about $40 i think. you could probably buy some sabbath stuff on there, like stuff you cant normally find in the shops.

.:HIM:.
01-18-2005, 05:34 AM
yeah my friend got one worth like $200 for like $100. i might go see if the have slayers still reigning DVD

Josh
01-18-2005, 05:43 AM
also, if you're just after cds, go to cdungle.com for free shipping to anywhere. albums are cheap there, they ship from thailand. they are genuine though, i get a few. theres quite a lot of sabbath stuff, and a good selection of slayer. they dont have still reigning though

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 08:05 AM
Australia my friend A U S T R A L I A sound it out

im so sorry i missed out 1 letter because it didn't work when i typed it, please accept my apologies :rolleyes:

DICK!!!

Brew
01-18-2005, 12:27 PM
Australia my friend A U S T R A L I A sound it out

stfu my friend, sound it out:

SHUT THE **** UP.

Start posting about Sabbath or bugger off.




'sup thread :wave:

Amazon are pretty decent, they do ship internationally but at a small extra price.

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 01:24 PM
i went on the cd jungle and it was more expensive than amazon

also sabbath bloody sabbath was called something wired

*will find out what*

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 01:28 PM
http://www.cdjungle.com/moredetails1.asp?catno=075992727228

thats it


i know i could have edited but my comp is taking ages to do anything so...



andy, have you heard 'over the hills and far away' by sonata arctica?

Brew
01-18-2005, 02:56 PM
^Cool alt. name for SBS.

And...no, I've got the Nightwish version though somewhere.

Josh
01-18-2005, 03:04 PM
that is a cool alt. name for SBS. random though. titch send me the sonata arctica over the hills and far away via msn

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 03:18 PM
i dont mind nightwish's but sonata arctica's is better IMO

josh, just incase i forget to tell you im not gonna go see judas priest

Brew
01-18-2005, 03:19 PM
I'm seeing the Priest :)

In November Alice Cooper is going on tour with Twisted Sister.

I'm pretty sure I'll be going :)

All we need now, is a Sabbath tour.

shadow_stalker
01-18-2005, 03:30 PM
where are alice cooper and twisted sister playing?

*prays for newcastle*

JACKROXYOU
01-18-2005, 03:44 PM
texas come on texas pleez come to texas

Brew
01-18-2005, 03:45 PM
* 11/05 - Brighton Centre
* 11/06 - London Wembley
* 11/07 - Cardiff CIA
* 11/09 - Birmingham NEC
* 11/10 - Manchester MENA
* 11/12 - Glasgow Clyde Auditorium
* 11/13 - Newcastle Arena
* 11/15 - Sheffield Arena
* 11/16 - Nottingham Arena
* 11/17 - Bournemouth BIC
* 11/19 - Plymouth Pavilion

:)

Last time I saw him was at the NEC, that place sucks.

JACKROXYOU
01-18-2005, 05:21 PM
* 11/05 - Brighton Centre
* 11/06 - London Wembley
* 11/07 - Cardiff CIA
* 11/09 - Birmingham NEC
* 11/10 - Manchester MENA
* 11/12 - Glasgow Clyde Auditorium
* 11/13 - Newcastle Arena
* 11/15 - Sheffield Arena
* 11/16 - Nottingham Arena
* 11/17 - Bournemouth BIC
* 11/19 - Plymouth Pavilion

:)

Last time I saw him was at the NEC, that place sucks.

Texas they comin to texas?!?!?!

shadow_stalker
01-19-2005, 03:41 AM
newacstle ****ing get in!

hopefully they havnt sold out yet

rippa32
01-19-2005, 03:57 AM
So anyway back to sabbath. Does anyone know if they will bring out an album and therefore tour this year?

ArcLite
01-19-2005, 04:00 AM
I read that a piss-load of people are making a petition telling the other band members to kick Ozzy out of the band because his lack of commitment is what's keeping them from making a new record.

rippa32
01-19-2005, 04:13 AM
That is true. I personally think that Ozzy should stick to his solo career cause that is still pretty good and then they should bring back dio.

shadow_stalker
01-19-2005, 04:33 AM
ozzy's solo career is dropping abit, down to earth was a brilliant album but i dont really have high hopes for the bible of ozz

as for sabbath i would like to see ozz singing for them as he is my favourite sabbath singer

rippa32
01-19-2005, 04:41 AM
He is my favourite as well but if he is holding sabbath back then I would rather him replaced by someone who is not.

acefrehleyjendell
01-19-2005, 05:56 AM
Was there any live albums from Tony Martin?

Yes there was, Cross Purposes live.

acefrehleyjendell
01-19-2005, 06:00 AM
He is my favourite as well but if he is holding sabbath back then I would rather him replaced by someone who is not.

I wanna see a new sabbath album regardless of the singer. Ozzy got buckethead on guitar but fired him, and bls are releasing a new album
so it's either sabbath or solo.

but if he was going to be replaced i think I should sing for sabbath lol,
not to brag or anything but i can pretty much sing every song perfect and
i have a pretty good stage presence (so i'm told)

Brew
01-19-2005, 06:35 AM
Texas they comin to texas?!?!?!

No.

Yes there was, Cross Purposes live.

I beat ya to it :p

If they do kick Ozzy out of Sabbath again, then I'd like to see Tony Martin brought back.

There's no chance that Dio would re-join, he doesn't want to work with Bill or Geezer again.

shadow_stalker
01-19-2005, 06:56 AM
He is my favourite as well but if he is holding sabbath back then I would rather him replaced by someone who is not.

i want ozzy on vocal, becasue psyco man and selling my soul were ****ing brilliant, so i wouldnt say he is holding them back when they did songs like that


2000th post WOO!!! :chug: :chug: :chug:

everyone but andy can have a drink :thumb:


free rep for all :) (apologies to those show rep i cant put p anymore, which is most the people in this thread)

shadow_stalker
01-19-2005, 06:58 AM
No.



I beat ya to it :p

If they do kick Ozzy out of Sabbath again, then I'd like to see Tony Martin brought back.

There's no chance that Dio would re-join, he doesn't want to work with Bill or Geezer again.


i think he wants to work with iommi again doesnt he?

Josh
01-19-2005, 06:59 AM
i thought he did,but i could be wrong

Brew
01-19-2005, 07:06 AM
Dio wants to work with Iommi again yes.

I hit 6000 last night :p

floyd.the.barber
01-19-2005, 08:20 AM
i want ozzy on vocal ,dont like dio but never heard him with sabbath :wave:

Brew
01-19-2005, 09:31 AM
^Get Heaven and Hell.

You won't regret it.

rippa32
01-19-2005, 06:16 PM
No.



I beat ya to it :p

If they do kick Ozzy out of Sabbath again, then I'd like to see Tony Martin brought back.

There's no chance that Dio would re-join, he doesn't want to work with Bill or Geezer again.

It would be nice to see Tony Martin but he has said that he wouldnt work with them again. Why wont Dio work with Bill or Geezer?

Eitri Is Berserk
01-19-2005, 08:22 PM
Ozzy better not get kicked out of sabbath.. at least not before i ever get to see 'em live, just once. Anyway, do any of you think Rock n' Roll Doctor sounds kinda like Ac/Dc, or is it just me?

JACKROXYOU
01-19-2005, 08:57 PM
it might be you

they're not comin to texas ****

ozzy better stay ****it i didnt wait this long for him to get the boot

Eitri Is Berserk
01-19-2005, 09:19 PM
Maybe it just is me, but the main riff in that song makes me think of Ac/Dc.. Black Sabbath will most likely be on Ozzfest this year, if nothing happens.

JACKROXYOU
01-19-2005, 09:20 PM
well yea hopefully ozzy would put his own band on his OWN tour

rippa32
01-20-2005, 04:30 AM
So what is everyones favourite song from the Volume 4 album?

ArcLite
01-20-2005, 04:34 AM
Tough call between Tomorrow's Dream and Snowblind. Definitely in top 3 Sabbath albums for me. Seemed like one of their more defining albums that was a little different from everything else they did.

floyd.the.barber
01-20-2005, 05:21 AM
supernaut :wave:

shadow_stalker
01-20-2005, 07:11 AM
So what is everyones favourite song from the Volume 4 album?

snowblind followed by supernaut

Josh
01-20-2005, 01:54 PM
same for me.

shadow_stalker
01-20-2005, 02:01 PM
wow the sabbath thread is so ****ing slow tonight

Josh
01-20-2005, 02:07 PM
yeh. i found it on page 2 or 3.

Brew
01-20-2005, 02:09 PM
So what is everyones favourite song from the Volume 4 album?

Tomorrow's Dream, Under the Sun, Laguna Sunrise

ToRidTheDisease
01-20-2005, 03:07 PM
i want ozzy on vocal, becasue psyco man and selling my soul were ****ing brilliant, so i wouldnt say he is holding them back when they did songs like that


2000th post WOO!!! :chug: :chug: :chug:

everyone but andy can have a drink :thumb:


free rep for all :) (apologies to those show rep i cant put p anymore, which is most the people in this thread)
To me, there isn't much Sabbath without Ozzy.

Josh
01-20-2005, 03:21 PM
meh...i havnt heard much sabbath without ozzy. i like turn up the night and heaven and hell though

shadow_stalker
01-21-2005, 03:52 AM
i saw 'the shining' the other day on scuzz, i cant say i like that vocalist

rippa32
01-21-2005, 03:53 AM
My favourite song from Vol 4 is either St Vitus Dance or Under the Sun. Im surprised that no-one has said St Vitus Dance.

floyd.the.barber
01-21-2005, 06:00 AM
i saw 'the shining' the other day on scuzz, i cant say i like that vocalist
who is it

shadow_stalker
01-21-2005, 06:02 AM
i think its Tony Martin

Brew
01-21-2005, 11:01 AM
I've grown to like Tony Martins vocals, he has a really good voice.

Crappy stage presence though, in a way that makes him better than Ozzy - Ozzy had amazing stage presence and a bog standard voice, Tony has crap-tastic stage presence but an amazing voice.

shadow_stalker
01-21-2005, 11:25 AM
is it me or did sabbath turn more towards the gothic kind of lyrics after ozzy left?

Brew
01-21-2005, 11:29 AM
As in about Satan etc...?

That all started in the Ozzy-era, Dio carried it on but made it a little more fantasy/power metal-ish then Tony Martin had ago at it on Headless Cross.

shadow_stalker
01-21-2005, 11:36 AM
they seemed to have a bit of gothic-ramance stuff in some of their songs (especially 'no stranger to love')

god i hate that song

Brew
01-21-2005, 01:40 PM
Horrible song.

Terrible video.

Good thing it was supposed to have been Tony's solo work and not 'real' Sabbath material.

JH LU KH RT
01-21-2005, 01:53 PM
Is there actually anyone in here who prefers some1 else singing over ozzy?

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 01:54 PM
I was just looking through my dads vinyl..and I found a Black Sabbath album called Live Evil. Any of you have it? Its got Dio on vocals.

^Dream~Theater^
01-21-2005, 01:54 PM
Is there actually anyone in here who prefers some1 else singing over ozzy?
Can you ask a more stupid question?

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 02:03 PM
Yes he could have, arn't you glad he didn't?

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 02:06 PM
Anyway..this album has E5150, Neon Knights, N.I.B., Children of the Sea, Voodoo, Black Sabbath, War Pigs, Iron Man, The Mob Rules, Heaven and Hell, 0The Sign of the southern cross, Heaven and hell (cont.), Paranoid, Children of The Grave and Fluff. I wish I could get that record player to work..

Brew
01-21-2005, 02:15 PM
^That would be Live Evil.

Edit: You pointed that out.

Oops.

Its a great Live album, I've grown to really like it.

And at times I prefer Dio and Tony Martin to Ozzy-era Sabbath.

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 02:18 PM
:upset: Someone Neg repped me and didn't bother to leave his name.. Whimp.

Brew
01-21-2005, 02:19 PM
Did they leave a message?

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 02:21 PM
It said "TRY AND NEG REP ME BITCH, ILL BRING IT RIGHT BACK." Probably one of those dudes in the pit who were complaining about not having rep.. So everyone neg repped em more, including me. What a dolt.

Brew
01-21-2005, 02:23 PM
I've not been in the Pit for ages.

Eitri Is Berserk
01-21-2005, 02:24 PM
I go there when R&M is a bit slow. Oops.. Were getting off Black Sabbath.

EDIT: That rep more than undid what that whimp did, thanks.

ToRidTheDisease
01-21-2005, 02:37 PM
I've grown to like Tony Martins vocals, he has a really good voice.

Crappy stage presence though, in a way that makes him better than Ozzy - Ozzy had amazing stage presence and a bog standard voice, Tony has crap-tastic stage presence but an amazing voice.
I think that Tony = Bad Voice/Bad stage presence, and Ozzy = best voice/good presence.

Just my opinion though.

rippa32
01-21-2005, 05:15 PM
I agree with the ozzy thing but I like Martins voice, dont know about his stage prescence cause I havn't seen him live. Why don't you like ozzy's voice andy?

Josh
01-21-2005, 05:18 PM
well i found out today that a guy ive known for nearly 6 years went to see sabbath a long time ago, when they were touring with dio (he thinks)

what's everyones opinions on TV crimes? its a dio song isnt it? i heard it a while ago and wasnt sure.

and my opinion on ozzy's voice: good, but gets annoying if you hear it too much, especially on the higher pitched songs.

rippa32
01-21-2005, 05:30 PM
TV crimes was on the Dehuminizer album, which is Dio. It's a pretty good song better than most on that album in fact.

Josh
01-21-2005, 05:40 PM
ah ok. i may get that album, or possibly heaven and hell, next.

IAJP
01-21-2005, 05:46 PM
From what I've heard of Heaven and Hell, it's pretty amazing.
Neon Knights,sign of the southern cross, and the title track all stood out pretty well.

rippa32
01-22-2005, 03:50 AM
Havnt got Heaven and Hell yet. I was going to until I realised it was 96 remaster.

JACKROXYOU
01-22-2005, 08:49 AM
i just got heaven and hell vinyl

mmm i'm startin to like vinyls better thanks to brum

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 01:26 PM
Black Sabbath, War Pigs, Iron Man, Paranoid, Children of The Grave and Fluff


no one should sing them songs except for ozzy...and me...except fluff which deosnt have vocals


isnt about sabbath but i got the re-released version of 'number of the beast' by maiden today, but since i dont have a record player i cant listen to it :upset:

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 01:31 PM
Havnt got Heaven and Hell yet. I was going to until I realised it was 96 remaster.

i only have remaster ones (except the best of and reunion), its quite annoying because i like the older ones better (that may be down to the fact that i heard them on vynal rather than cd, but whatever)

Brew
01-22-2005, 02:02 PM
*cough*sign of the southern cross is on mob rules*cough*

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 02:09 PM
*cough*sign of the southern cross is on mob rules*cough*

how discreet :lol:

Brew
01-22-2005, 02:31 PM
I try my best.

I agree with the ozzy thing but I like Martins voice, dont know about his stage prescence cause I havn't seen him live. Why don't you like ozzy's voice andy?

I like Ozzy's voice, I was just pointing out that its crap compared to Tony Martins voice.

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 03:07 PM
if you were one of the people i hang around with you may well have got a slap there andy!

Brew
01-22-2005, 03:39 PM
:naughty:


Think about it, Ozzy doesn't have the greatest vocal range in the world whereas Martin has a much broader and wider range.

Its possibly to quote Ozzy as saying ''I never knew how to sing, I just shouted and hoped for the best''

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 04:04 PM
yeah your right, but shouting and hoping for the best has worked for the last 35 years of ozzy's career

hows the story of volume 2 dvd? and i still havnt got dehumanizer yet
damnit

Brew
01-22-2005, 04:05 PM
Aye, true.

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 04:42 PM
i orderd dehumanizer, finally gave into temptation

Brew
01-22-2005, 04:53 PM
I nearly bought it today.

I got Sonata Arctica - Reckoning Night instead.

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 05:04 PM
i have that (but my sister took it with her to university :upset: )

i almost got technical ecstacy, but i got an apocalyptica album instead

rippa32
01-22-2005, 05:44 PM
i orderd dehumanizer, finally gave into temptation

You wont regret it.

shadow_stalker
01-22-2005, 05:45 PM
i hope not it cost me £6.99

rippa32
01-22-2005, 06:18 PM
Wow thats cheap. It cost me AUS$20 wich in pounds is about 9.

ToRidTheDisease
01-22-2005, 06:45 PM
I've done nothing but listen to Sabbath today.

I'm all hungover from last night. :-/

I should join Andy in not drinking.

JACKROXYOU
01-22-2005, 07:58 PM
yea 23 days that's nice!

JACKROXYOU
01-22-2005, 09:05 PM
any other black sabbath?

rippa32
01-23-2005, 05:09 AM
^ Please Explain.

shadow_stalker
01-23-2005, 06:19 AM
Wow thats cheap. It cost me AUS$20 wich in pounds is about 9.

yeah but im one of the worlds biggest cheap skates :thumb:

so...what everyones favourite ozzy, dio, tony martin (and others) album from sabbath (basically which album you like best from each singer you have heard)

i only have ozzy albums right now so i will say my favourite from the ozzy era is 'black sabbath'

houses_of_holy
01-23-2005, 06:45 AM
my fav ozzy era album is probably Sabbath Bloody Sabbath

IAJP
01-23-2005, 08:26 AM
Jeeeez I love A National Acrobat so much.
P.S-And Supernaut :)

RaReBreeD_OzZ
01-23-2005, 08:53 AM
Yea, Im a big fan o' "Vo. 4", and of course "Paranoid". Im not a huge fan of the dio ect. yrs. but i dont mind the album "Heaven and Hell", "Dehuminizer" being my least fav Sabbath album of all time!

Basso
01-23-2005, 09:55 AM
Black Sabbath is good stuff. I got "best of black sabbath" album. 2 CD's full of great songs.

Brew
01-23-2005, 11:00 AM
Ozzy years - Vol.4, Never Say Die!
Dio - Live Evil
Tony Martin - I've only got Headless Cross and TYR, I like them both the same

IAJP
01-23-2005, 11:22 AM
O.K the best songs off Sabbotage: (imo)
#1:Megalomania
#2:Hole In The Sky
#3:Symptom Of The Universe
#4:Supertzar
#5:The Writ
#6:Thrill Of It All
#7:Am I going Insane?
#8: Don't Start (too Late)

Weirdly enough, I checked out my friends Black Sabbath Greatest Hits yesterday and it has Don't Start (Too Late), on it...:confused:

JugBandBlues
01-23-2005, 11:29 AM
I think the best sabbath song is wicked world off past lives. it goes for about 20 min, and every note is brillent. I have a new respect for tony iommi because of it. thats the problem with greatest hits cds, they never truly represent the bands talent :upset:

IAJP
01-23-2005, 11:32 AM
Greatest Hits suck,
I'm ashamed to say I bought any.

Brew
01-23-2005, 11:39 AM
Greatest Hits albums should only be bought if you're unsure as to which album to buy.

JugBandBlues
01-23-2005, 11:39 AM
yea i too am ashamed a bought a black sabbath greatest hits (witch now that i look back was HORRIBLE) the only one that comes close is black box set........but it still doesnt represent past lives :lol: its a conspiracy i swear

Brew
01-23-2005, 12:00 PM
Black Box is every Ozzy era album though, its not a greatest hits.

Past Lives is the Live at Last album packaged with a bunch of other live songs, I really need to get myself a copy.

I have We Sold our Soul...and an old Greatest Hits on vinyl.

IAJP
01-23-2005, 12:04 PM
Woah, every Ozzy era?
How much (RRP) would that cost?
:eek: :amaze:

Brew
01-23-2005, 12:36 PM
Erm...at a guess around £60

ToRidTheDisease
01-23-2005, 12:39 PM
I own it. US = 80$.

Well worth it though.

JACKROXYOU
01-23-2005, 02:33 PM
Black Box is every Ozzy era album though, its not a greatest hits.

Past Lives is the Live at Last album packaged with a bunch of other live songs, I really need to get myself a copy.

I have We Sold our Soul...and an old Greatest Hits on vinyl.

i did like we sold our soul

if you dont like greatest hit albums does that mean you dont like they're music?

Josh
01-23-2005, 02:35 PM
no i dont think so. anyway, greatest hits albums are normally just singles, and often the singles arent the best songs on albums, so the band often have better songs than are on the greatest hits albums.

Brew
01-23-2005, 02:49 PM
Greatest Hits albums are normally put together by the record company, like sack-man said just of the bands singles.

The reason for not liking them is they don't really show off the full product of the band, normally the rest of the songs on their albums are better than the said ''Greatest'' hits.

IAJP
01-23-2005, 02:56 PM
What's everyones favourite obscure sabbath song?
By obscure I mean, the ones no-one talks about: A.K.A album tracks..

Mine has to be Spiral Arcitect or Cornucopia.

*me gives a general direction to the thread :lol:*

Kyle
01-23-2005, 02:59 PM
I swear i jusy heard some new RAP song with the riff to crazy train in it!!
good lord it was awful.

IAJP
01-23-2005, 03:03 PM
You probbably did,
but remember:
Crazy Train=Ozzy
This thread=Sabbath

:cool:

JACKROXYOU
01-23-2005, 05:25 PM
no he did hear it

lil' john's "lets go" sampled the riff

but yes this is a sabbath thread you idiot

rippa32
01-24-2005, 03:23 AM
I know a guy at school who thinks that Sabbath is Satanic. I have tried everything I can think of to persuade him to beleive the truth but he wont listen. Anyone got any suggestions?

Lord Abortion
01-24-2005, 03:25 AM
what do you guys think of spiral architect?
I spent the weekend listening to SBS and concluded that it was brilliant
and better live on reunion
I know shadow_stalker hates it but that's just him...

Josh
01-24-2005, 06:57 AM
its not the best song ever. my favourite songs on SBS are the title track and sabbra cadabra

acefrehleyjendell
01-24-2005, 07:59 AM
What's everyones favourite obscure sabbath song?
By obscure I mean, the ones no-one talks about: A.K.A album tracks..

Mine has to be Spiral Arcitect or Cornucopia.

*me gives a general direction to the thread :lol:*

Hand of doom

acefrehleyjendell
01-24-2005, 08:00 AM
okay i am pissed off. i got the 2004 reissue of paranoid.

WHERE THE **** IS JACK THE STRIPPER

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 08:02 AM
I know a guy at school who thinks that Sabbath is Satanic. I have tried everything I can think of to persuade him to beleive the truth but he wont listen. Anyone got any suggestions?

slap him around thehead until the dick listens to reason :thumb:

Lord Abortion
01-24-2005, 08:03 AM
slap him around thehead until the dick listens to reason :thumb:
where are you man :confused:

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 08:03 AM
what do you guys think of spiral architect?
I spent the weekend listening to SBS and concluded that it was brilliant
and better live on reunion
I know shadow_stalker hates it but that's just him...

well like you said i dont like it, i like the into but the chorus annoys the hell out of me


p.s. i_am_jimmy_page, the direction you gave the thread will probably have ended in about 2 pages :upset:

acefrehleyjendell
01-24-2005, 08:04 AM
okay i am pissed off. i got the 2004 reissue of paranoid.

WHERE THE **** IS JACK THE STRIPPER

and i mean fairies wear boots is cut short.

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 08:05 AM
where are you man :confused:

i doing music work :thumb:

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 08:06 AM
okay i am pissed off. i got the 2004 reissue of paranoid.

WHERE THE **** IS JACK THE STRIPPER


i only have reissued versions :upset:

except reunion and best of

acefrehleyjendell
01-24-2005, 08:06 AM
well like you said i dont like it, i like the into but the chorus annoys the hell out of me


p.s. i_am_jimmy_page, the direction you gave the thread will probably have ended in about 2 pages :upset:

Of all the things i value most of all, i look onto my screen and see your
post and know that it is good, ya know that i should.

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 08:12 AM
i really dont like spiral architect

Josh
01-24-2005, 08:33 AM
i doing music work :thumb:
do more music work then. hows it going?

damn i wish id put some sabbath on my mp3 player for today.

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 11:26 AM
it was going quite well, until i decided i didnt like what i was doing

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 12:17 PM
woo sabbath is winning in poll A

Brew
01-24-2005, 02:13 PM
My fav. song that no-one talks about?

It'd be the Never Say Die! album. ;)

shadow_stalker
01-24-2005, 02:39 PM
the only favourite sabath song that i like that no-one talks about much is something like the warning

i've also grown quite fond of sleeping village


anyway good night all im gonna play on my guitar

JACKROXYOU
01-24-2005, 03:47 PM
no one talks about nib so ill go with that

rippa32
01-25-2005, 03:34 AM
Yeah NIB is quitee good. And no matter how simple it is I love playing it on my guitar.

Josh
01-25-2005, 05:21 AM
NIB is a cool song. a classic sabbath song. i have it on my mp3 player at the minute.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 06:58 AM
no one talks about nib so ill go with that

really, i hear people talking about NIB loads :confused: , oh well

Josh
01-25-2005, 08:33 AM
yeh, people do talk about NIB loads.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 08:36 AM
im wanting to p[lay it at the next rock night but stuart doesnt like it :angry:

EDIT: hey i won another cruise :thumb:

Josh
01-25-2005, 08:51 AM
lend me your bass then, i'll learn to play bass then learn NIB in a month...yeh right.

i won 5 cruises today as well.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 09:02 AM
no thanks, terry is playing bass fr us next time

Josh
01-25-2005, 09:05 AM
lol. so will you have philly AND stu on guitar?

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 09:09 AM
yeah philly lead and stuart rythm, i wonder if stuart could play NIB

well i think stuart will be rythm

Josh
01-25-2005, 09:13 AM
you dont really need 2 guitars to play NIB, but it would sound good. who would do vocals?

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 09:15 AM
stuart, he is the lead singer so...

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 10:15 AM
anyway back to sabbath...kind of

i got the albums i orderd dehumanizer (sabbath) and sonic firestorm (dragonforce)


so far dehumanizer has been worth every penny and im not even through the first song :thumb:

i recomend this to anythat doesnt already have it

IAJP
01-25-2005, 10:29 AM
Who sings on that album?
I get confused after Mob Rules..:(

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 10:31 AM
Its Dio, strange a year ago i never would have got a dio album

he sounds kind of like Dave Mustain on after all (the dead), well dave mustain sound like Dio


*used to have "dio sucks balls" under user name* (i still stand by that, but now i like him)

IAJP
01-25-2005, 10:42 AM
I love The Mob Rules.
What an album :)

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 10:58 AM
i might get it next, depends on how im feeling

IAJP
01-25-2005, 11:02 AM
I'm ordering a lot of CD's off Andy now :)

Brew
01-25-2005, 11:03 AM
I love how people are really narrow-minded when it comes to Sabbath when they're first getting into them.

I was the same, mainly because my Dad said the post-Ozzy stuff sucked.

Brew
01-25-2005, 11:08 AM
http://www.australianblacksabbath.com/

They're pretty good.

/is listening to their version of NIB

IAJP
01-25-2005, 11:09 AM
Thanks man,
/me checks out N.I.B.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 11:11 AM
i just got the best of, heard ozzy, found out dio replaced him and thought "thats it this dio cunt is a loser"

also i found a version of sabbath bloody sabbath by iron maiden, sounds pretty good

Brew
01-25-2005, 11:14 AM
Its not Maiden.

Its Bruce Dickinson singing for Godsmack, I think.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 11:17 AM
meh still good

that australian sabbath are pretty good, guitar on paranoid is great but the singers voice isn't really powerful enough


'Trev' does quite a good ozzy look-a-like impression, so does 'Rob', but the others didnt seem to put much effort into looking like sabbath

IAJP
01-25-2005, 11:20 AM
I like the version of N.I.B from what I've heard.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 11:22 AM
slayers 'hand of doom' is pretty good

also it isn't really sabbath but ozzy's cover of 'the bee geee's' song staying alive is really good :lol:

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 12:41 PM
in the maiden thread they are doing the lyrics game that we did, shocking :lol:

those bastards stole our game :lol:

REVOLUTION!

IAJP
01-25-2005, 12:44 PM
:lol:
No-one knows what the current one is..:(

Josh
01-25-2005, 12:57 PM
i know. the game was better when in this thread

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:02 PM
yeah thats true

this is a question to anyone in this thread that plays an instrument, what is your fav sabbath song to play and on which instument?

dmartin202
01-25-2005, 01:10 PM
yah black sabbath definitally rocks
paranoid is also my favorite song. it is so fun to play you should check it out
rock on

Josh
01-25-2005, 01:13 PM
meh fine go pick a question i cant answer, lol, GIVE ME YOUR BASS

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:16 PM
NEVER! not until i finish my music coursework

come on josh answer my question :lol:



speaking of josh i havnt seen laihorocker in ages or kredkee!...something is wrong

they are watching us, over there in the bushes its the maiden army, first they stole our game now they are after our regular posters *shifty eye movment*

Josh
01-25-2005, 01:19 PM
so i get the bass when you finish music tech? cool.

well as i'm a wannabe bass player i will say NIB for the cool intro

yeh where are laihorocker666 and kredkee! ?

IAJP
01-25-2005, 01:19 PM
I improvise a lotta my music coursework :cool:

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:22 PM
i can't improvise my music 'cause i need to have a score to go with it, and writing a score for 2 guitars, drums and bass for 2 compositions is not easy

They are still watching us, there must be a spy *glances between 'i am jimmy page' and 'sack-man'

*more shifty eye movment*

Josh
01-25-2005, 01:26 PM
i just thought, why are you doing metallica?
you should have done a sabbath song.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:30 PM
power chords don't sound that nice when done on things like violins, also metallica songs like one are more progressive than some sabbath songs, so it will hopefully pick up more marks and...um...shut-up spy!!!

Josh
01-25-2005, 01:36 PM
lol. as long as you manage to get it all right.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:40 PM
i have the guitar book for metallica so it should go fine

Josh
01-25-2005, 01:47 PM
ah ok. i suppose that was easier to get hold of than a sabbath one anyway.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 01:52 PM
yeah, that music shop in the metro is crap for ozzy and sabbath

Brew
01-25-2005, 02:28 PM
yah black sabbath definitally rocks
paranoid is also my favorite song. it is so fun to play you should check it out
rock on

I went through a phase of playing Paranoid with my bass over the back of my head.

Its boring to play.

Josh
01-25-2005, 02:38 PM
it gets boring if you hear it too much as well.

ToRidTheDisease
01-25-2005, 02:43 PM
NEVER! not until i finish my music coursework

come on josh answer my question :lol:



speaking of josh i havnt seen laihorocker in ages or kredkee!...something is wrong

they are watching us, over there in the bushes its the maiden army, first they stole our game now they are after our regular posters *shifty eye movment*
Howdy. :wave:

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 02:44 PM
hi laihorocker

i guess we can cancel the search party

ToRidTheDisease
01-25-2005, 02:48 PM
Search party?

Josh
01-25-2005, 02:49 PM
lol. we wondered where you were. but kredkee! still hasnt turned up.

shadow_stalker
01-25-2005, 02:49 PM
never mind

yeah he has been gone for ages :confused:

rippa32
01-25-2005, 06:39 PM
anyway back to sabbath...kind of

i got the albums i orderd dehumanizer (sabbath) and sonic firestorm (dragonforce)


so far dehumanizer has been worth every penny and im not even through the first song :thumb:

i recomend this to anythat doesnt already have it

Yeah I love the dehuminizer album. Im listening to it now and I dont think I can fault one song.

Josh
01-26-2005, 11:52 AM
hmm now to get dehumanizer or heaven and hell...

acefrehleyjendell
01-26-2005, 12:05 PM
Is shadow stalker seeming a little paranoid all of a sudden?

Just chill out dude, i'm the only one spying on you.

acefrehleyjendell
01-26-2005, 12:19 PM
yeah thats true

this is a question to anyone in this thread that plays an instrument, what is your fav sabbath song to play and on which instument?

Probably Heaven and Hell on guitar. The quintessential Power Metal riff.

Or Maybe NIB or Iron Man, Because there NIB and Iron Man.

I used to absolutly love playing Behind the wall of sleep, and Faries wear boots, a few years ago.

But i still love to rock out to Paranoid and War Pigs occasionally.

JMDavis07
01-26-2005, 01:40 PM
Hey all, Black Sabbath IS my favorite band and they are the reason I started playing bass. I'm not very good but I am TRYING to learn the bass solo at the beginning of N.I.B. I got a little bit. But I'm not very optimistic as if I'll be able to play it as good. After this post I'm going to go try and learn the beginning of War Pigs. I know that I might be a little sucky but hey, it's fun trying. By the way, some good songs are Black Sabbath, The Wizard, War Pigs, N.I.B., Tommorrow's Dream, Fairies Wear Boots, Children of The Grave, Sweet Leaf, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Snowblind, Iron Man, A Bit of Finger/Sleeping Village, Wasp, Behind the Wall of Sleep, Paranoid of course, Bassically, Wicked World, and many, many, more. Oh yeah! You can't forget Heaven and Hell.

Brew
01-26-2005, 02:01 PM
^No.

Paranoid sucks.

The rest of that list was good though.