Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

[shadow_stalker]

I don't know, but there's a film called Black Sabbath, it was released in...1922 and it was by Boris somethingsomething.*has forgotten his surname*

i think its boris karloff

*excuse to bump thread*

[black_sabbath634]

yeah that movie is awsome, it matches with the band black sabbath, they would make a great soundtrack for it. and i think it was released in the 60s, cause its in color

[shadow_stalker]

that was probably a remake of it

[Brew]

Yeh, I think the original was released in 1922?

It may be something completly different, but at the moment the date 1922 links to the film in my head.

[Vampyre de Mort]

My favorite would be Paranoid. You should get the "We Sold Our Soul To Rock n Roll" CD.

That CD was awesome! They blew me away when I first heard it, it was like my first time hearing Black Sabbath.

[shadow_stalker]

they were named after the 1922 one, i think tony or geezer says on either last supper or story of... vol 1

[sabbathfan37]

yeah that movie is awsome, it matches with the band black sabbath, they would make a great soundtrack for it. and i think it was released in the 60s, cause its in color

posts 334 and 346 (p.14) have some info on the movie and band name.

[shadow_stalker]

it was probably him that said it :lol:

[Brew]

it was probably him that said it :lol:

/me checks.

And on the topic of film/song/band name, the song Black Sabbath came first, they named the band after the song. I believe the song was named after the film Black Sabbath.

He referring to that comment?

[black_sabbath634]

it was probably him that said it :lol:
no i dint post till page 19
(shameless way to bump thread) :lol:

[shadow_stalker]

i think that was the comment i may have been talking about, but im not sure

[shadow_stalker]

if sabbath were going to make a new studio album who would you want to sing on it?

i would want ozzy as vocalist

[Brew]

Either Ozzy or Dio.

I've not heard much from the others, but whoever sang on The Eternal Idol had a pretty good voice.

/checks magazine

'twas Tony Martin.

[shadow_stalker]

i swear to god your avatars get weireder and weireder lord brumminton

*off topic*

[Brew]

And so...I tell the story of my avatars.

It started out with the Aussie Pink Floyd logo, which is they're version of the DSOTM cover (Its Australia with the colours going through it).

Then it was Murray, from The Curse of Monkey Island.

Then it became the Vol.4 album cover.

Then I went back to the Aussie Floyd avatar.

Then I got Bob, and the other night Kif made the Bob/Hippo avatar.


Yay.

[shadow_stalker]

you should write a book about that tale :smoke:

im guessing that bob is the pirate

[Brew]

Yep.

Bob is from The Secret of Monkey Island.

[shadow_stalker]

that really is an odd avatar, i cant stop watching it

[Brew]

It looks like you have Ozzy in your avatar.

[shadow_stalker]

yeah its ozzy with a sign saying hell on it

[ToRidTheDisease]

yeah its ozzy with a sign saying hell on it
I'm wearing a shirt that says that.

Has anyone heard the Ozzy/Zakk Wylde cover of Purple Haze?

[shadow_stalker]

i havnt heard it but i think its going to be on ozzys box set bible of ozz that is out next year

[Brew]

I haven't heard it either, but it should be with the new Ozzy 4-Disc box set.

There was a rumour flying around about a box set of the other Sabbath albums from the non-Ozzy era, I'm not sure if its going to be released though.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I could post an attachment to it on here. Do attachments work?

[Brew]

I don't think so, they never work in the Pit so I'm guessing they don't work in here.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I'm wearing a shirt that says that.

Has anyone heard the Ozzy/Zakk Wylde cover of Purple Haze?

I have to check that out.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I have to check that out.
Its an awesome song, and Zakk makes it straight up heavy metal but still keeps the flow of the song.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Its an awesome song, and Zakk makes it straight up heavy metal but still keeps the flow of the song.

Wow I just heard that... Sweet stuff.

[black_sabbath634]

the purple haze cover has some good guitar, but the vocals... not great

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

the purple haze cover has some good guitar, but the vocals... not great

True. Ozzy was put on this earth to sing metal songs and only metal songs.

[shadow_stalker]

there is a cover of the rolling stones 'sympahty for the devil' on ozzys box set isnt there?

(im talking about the bibl of ozz that is out next year)

[black_sabbath634]

i sure hope not

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

i sure hope not

Why :confused: It would sound kind of weird, but it might be interesting.

[black_sabbath634]

i dont know i can just hear wylde ruining that song with the overdose of pinch harmonics....ahhhhhh!!!!!!!

dont get me wrong i love artificial harmonics and zakk, but they dont match with this song

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

i dont know i can just hear wylde ruining that song with the overdose of pinch harmonics....ahhhhhh!!!!!!!

dont get me wrong i love artificial harmonics and zakk, but they dont match with this song

True, I think a good cover that Ozzy should've done is "Born to be Wild". I can just imagine him singing that.

[Brew]

True. Ozzy was put on this earth to sing metal songs and only metal songs.

What about Solitude, Planet Caravan and Changes? Those songs don't really fit into the ''metal'' genre. ;)

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

What about Solitude, Planet Caravan and Changes? Those songs don't really fit into the ''metal'' genre. ;)

Yeah, I didn't think he did good on those.

[Brew]

Yeah, I didn't think he did good on those.

Fair doos, personally I think he did an amzaing job on Solitude, his voice is so mellow and angelic, its beautiful.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Fair doos, personally I think he did an amzaing job on Solitude, his voice is so mellow and angelic, its beautiful.

I don't remember how Solitude goes. But I only thought he did ok on Changes. I'm going to go listen to Solitude.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Yeah, I didn't think he did good on those.
Wow, Changes IMO has some of Ozzy's best on it, I just like how it flows.

[Brew]

Changes was alright, a bit on the cheesy side though.

The duet he did with Kelly sucked, hard.

It had interesting and reasonably good lyrical content, but they slaughtered a classic song.

[moaner]

I love the song planet caravan, although solitude I really don't dig.

Has Tony done anything serious since sabbath? I'd be intrested to hear it.

[Brew]

He's released two albums under the name ''Iommi''.

One came out in 2000, and featured many different artists on it including Ozzy on one song.
His latest album (which is actually pretty old) was released a few weeks ago, I can't remember its official name but its been dubbed the ''8th Star'', due to the Black Sabbath album ''7th Star'' being a Tony-solo-album, under the Sabbath name (record companies :rolleyes: )

Thats all I can think of at the moment for Tony.

[shortass]

Solitude is nowhere near as good as planet caravan IMO

[Brew]

Solitude > Planet Caravan > The Paranoid album.

Why?

I just don't like that album much, I'm more into the later Ozzy albums and post-Ozzy albums.

/puts on flame hat

[TerryThorne]

Didn't someone else sing solitude?

[Brew]

Nope, it was Ozzy.

Bill Ward sang Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy) and Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!)

[Brooksyd2]

Solitude is awesome, and your right Lord Brummington, ozzys voice is beatiful in that song. The first time i heard it i had a hard time believing it was him singing.

Planet caravan is a much darker song in my opinion but again ozzys voice fits it perfectly (just look at the pantera cover to see how unique ozzys voice is, good cover but not a patch on the original).

But overall I think solitude is better than planet caravan, although i think the planet caravan solo is hard to beat.

[shadow_stalker]

Nope, it was Ozzy.

Bill Ward sang Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy) and Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!)

i hate the song its alright

[guitarcreep13]

hey guys, I'm planning to buy a sabbath cd, what album should I get?
Also whats the name of the album with that song "Sabbra Cadabra" that Metallica 'borrowed'

[Brew]

^Sabbra Cadabra is on the album Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

For your first Sabbath cd, I recommend The Best of Black Sabbath or We Sold our Soul For Rock 'n' Roll, both are compilation albums and they give a good insight into what Sabbath sound like etc...

But if you're not looking into buying a compilation album, I highly recommend Vol.4 and Master of Reality as the first albums to buy, both are amazing and its the point in time where Sabbath were really delving deep into their sound, some songs being heavy, some being mellow and in all, they show the best of Sabbath from the Ozzy years.


i hate the song its alright

:eek:

Fair enough.

[shadow_stalker]

i would say either paranoid or the best of sabbath for starters, simply because the best of has well their "best" songs and paranoid has most of the songs that people tend to asociate (sp?) with sabbath (dont know if that really makes sense but still)

[punk_noodle113]

my favourite album is We Sold Our Souls For Rock And Roll. That and Paranoid. I love all the songs off both those albums \m/

[TerryThorne]

I suggest Paranoid first because I got We sould our souls and when I got paranoid I knew half the album already

[Brew]

For popular Black Sabbath, get Paranoid.

Then you'll be cool.

For better Black Sabbath(with Ozzy), get either Vol.4, Master of Reality or Never Say Die!

Then you'll be cooler.

[shadow_stalker]

get their first album it owns almost every other metal album i have ever heard

[black_sabbath634]

Solitude > Planet Caravan > The Paranoid album.

Why?

I just don't like that album much, I'm more into the later Ozzy albums and post-Ozzy albums.

/puts on flame hat
they are really difrent styles of music so there is no reason for being flamed, its a matter of musical taste

[PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead]

For starters get Symptoms of the Universe for Ozzy or Heaven and Hell for Dio or get the Best of Black Sabbath(With Martin)

[heinrichkuhn]

What about Solitude, Planet Caravan and Changes? Those songs don't really fit into the ''metal'' genre. ;)

Man all three of those songs are brilliant man.

[Brew]

Man all three of those songs are brilliant man.

Cheers man.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Hey it's off topic, but Brum, i'm going sword shopping again today haha.

[Brew]

Hey it's off topic, but Brum, i'm going sword shopping again today haha.


I want you, to post pics of yourself in full on sword wielding power metal nerd gear.

Please?

[ToRidTheDisease]

I want you, to post pics of yourself in full on sword wielding power metal nerd gear.

Please?
I asked the parents about getting down the chain mail and helmet but they said no, but I promise ill do it sometime.

[Brew]

:(:upset:

I wish I had a sword.

[ToRidTheDisease]

:(:upset:

I wish I had a sword.
Buy one from....hold on i'll get the website.....

Or just go to a pawn shop or flea market, they sell cool ones cheap.

[Brew]

Buy one from....hold on i'll get the website.....

Or just go to a pawn shop or flea market, they sell cool ones cheap.

Could do, I need to get out of debt to my parents first though.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Power metal nerd's dream:

http://www.budk.com/

[Brew]

Power metal nerd's dream:

http://www.budk.com/

:eek:

/falls off chair

rep++

Edit: You must spread some rep around before giving it to LaihoRocker666 again.

I owe you some rep.

[ToRidTheDisease]

:eek:

/falls off chair

rep++

Edit: You must spread some rep around before giving it to LaihoRocker666 again.

I owe you some rep.
I was gonna go ahead and rep you back even though you can't rep but....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lord Brummington again.

I guess i'll late rep you back after you can late rep me. :lol:

[Brew]

I might go neg. rep a n00b or something.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I might go neg. rep a n00b or something.
Sounds fun.

So cold we are.

[Brew]

Sounds fun.

So cold we are.

It is fun :)

[ToRidTheDisease]

It is fun :)
I just picked a random thread and repped each person. :lol:

But then I got the too much rep in 24 hours.

[Brew]

I just picked a random thread and repped each person. :lol:

But then I got the too much rep in 24 hours.

:lol:

I've never got the 24 hour rep thing :cool:

[guitarcreep13]

Hey thanks for the suggestions.
reading all of this, I guess i'll get Paranoid. Cause almost every one suggests it. :thumb:

[SalomeHigher]

PARANOID IS FANTASTIC.

it's metal before it got lame and pretentious.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Hey thanks for the suggestions.
reading all of this, I guess i'll get Paranoid. Cause almost every one suggests it. :thumb:
Yeah, that's the one I started with.

[Brew]

I think the first Sabbath album I heard was The Greatest Hits (not We Sold our Souls or The Best Of, this one is probably hard to find these days).

Then I heard the s/t album and eventually the rest of the Ozzy albums before getting into the post-Ozzy stuff last summer.

[Riva]

First I heard was Master Of Reality on tape. :p

[shadow_stalker]

the first sabbath album i heared was the best of black sabbath, but when i got i only listened to iron man, NIB and paranoid until i decided o listen to the rest

i was a little linkin park boy before then

[Brew]

^Aww, cute :p

I heard all of my Sabbath on vinyl, the only one I've bought on cd is Paranoid, the rest I copied from vinyl to cd.

[Oz Rembrandt]

Im more a Punk fan, but I'd just like too say- Black Sabbath are the Best Metal Band ever!! (Except maybe Led Zepllin, or Linkin Park- Im joking!!)

I first heard Black Sabbath by By Black Sabbath while slightly drunk, quite miserable and in the rain in a car... Changed my life...

[liberator of squeezy cheese]

lb i know this is totally the wrong place but ive just seen your avatar move i like it :thumb: umm yeah ill go now

[Brew]

^Groove-tastic.

[Brew]

*cunning bump*

Ok, this is a rip off of the Slipknot thread but I don't care.

Post your fav. 20 songs by Black Sabbath.

I'll do my list later, the school p00ters keep randomly blocking mx pages.

[kredkeee!]

20 favourite songs? Ok.(they're arranged randomly, 1st is not my favourite)
1.Black Sabbath 2.The Wizard 3.Wicked World 4.Children of The Grave 5.War Pigs 6.National Acrobat 7.Spiral Architect 8.Symptom of the Universe 9.Heaven in Black 10.Never Say Die 11.Johnny Blade 12.Heaven and Hell 13.After Forever 14. Hand of Doom 15.Zero the Hero 16.Born Again 17.Snowblind 18.Under the Sun 19.Anno Mundi 20.Sabbra Cadabra
Alright. Although I could just write the names of all Sabbath songs I know, cos all are gr8...

[Ruth]

(1) Changes.

(2) St. Vitus's Dance.


Ozzy solo: Perry Mason.

Ozzy duet: with Lita Ford: Close My Eyes Forever.

[shadow_stalker]

paranoid
NIB
behind the wall of sleep
the wiat (or wait)
iron man
sabbra cadabra
killing yourself to live
psyco man
selling my sould
never say die
war pigs
war purgis
Dirty women :naughty:
sympton of the universe
supernaut
the wizard
sleping village
hand of doom
electic funeral
wheels of confusion/the straightener


list would to long if i put all my favourites on

[TomJoad]

Could someone even out my rep points of my post on page 16 (the post has been edited and I wired when I did the first one).

I don't know about top 20, but here's the top ten.

Planet Caravan
NIB
Paranoid
The Wizard
Fairies Wear Boots
Symptom of the Universe
Into the Void
Evil Woman
Electric Funeral
Black Sabbath

[Waterman3]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti
dude your friggen right. i just noticed that the other day when i picked up one of their best of double items. id have to say my favorite sabbath song of all time is either sweet leaf, symptom of the universe, or NIB. iron man is probably my favorite song period.

[shadow_stalker]

the problem with their best of is that it isnt really their best of, there should be lots more ozzy songs on aswell as the post ozzy songs (even though i dont like most of them)

[shadow_stalker]

what is your favourite album from the ozzy era?

mine is black sabbath (their first), i love bluesy feel to that album

[Brew]

Fav Ozzy-era album - Vol.4

My list of 20 songs (in no order)

1. Air Dance
2. Supernaut
3. Tomorrow's Dream
4. Back Street Kids
5. N.I.B
6. The Warning
7. Planet Caravan
8. Solitude
9. Neon Knights
9. Die Young
10. Lost Forever
11. Psycho Man
12. Megalomania
13. Sabbra Cadabra
14. Swinging the Chain
15. Hard Road
16. Under the Sun
17. Its Alright
18. Laguna Sunrise
19. Fluff
20. Gypsy

[ToRidTheDisease]

I can't think of my list, there are just too many amazing Sabbath songs.

[shadow_stalker]

now how did i know that your were going to say either volume 4 or never say die?

[Brew]

now how did i know that your were going to say either volume 4 or never say die?

You know me too well.

Also, notice the lack of songs off Paranoid on my list :thumb:

[ToRidTheDisease]

Paranoid isn't that bad.

[Brew]

Paranoid isn't that bad.

Its alright, I don't really like it much these days though.

Also, did anyone else hear about the burglary at Ozzy's house last night? He chased and tackled one the robbers down, but they got away with around £2million worth of Sharons jewellery.

[shadow_stalker]

yeah i heared about that, sharon was being a bit bitchy about it on the news though

they need some decent security systems

[ToRidTheDisease]

Someone like Ozzy couldn't afford better security?

[Brew]

They have loads of CCTV cameras etc....but the robbers must have planned it all out really well.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I doubt it was much for money, even though they did get a lot.

It's probably like, "Dude, we broke in the prince of darkness' house, we are teh hXc."

[Brew]

Correction:

''d000d, wee bruke in2 teh prince of teh darknisses house, omg we r teh liek sooo hXc''

[ToRidTheDisease]

Correction:

''d000d, wee bruke in2 teh prince of teh darknisses house, omg we r teh liek sooo hXc''
:lol: Nice.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I haven't been here in awhile...

Back to the Sabbath talk people.

[Brew]

I haven't been here in awhile...

Back to the Sabbath talk people.

stfu n00b ;)

Did you make a 20 song Sabbath list?

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

stfu n00b ;)

Did you make a 20 song Sabbath list?

No... and me hopes you were kidding about the n00b thing :naughty:

[Brew]

No... and me hopes you were kidding about the n00b thing :naughty:

Erm...Yes?

I don't quite get why the :naughty: was added.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Erm...Yes?

I don't quite get why the :naughty: was added.

It looks like I'm challenging you kind of with this--> :naughty:

[Brew]

I see.

/slaps around the face with a glove.

That, is a challenge boyo.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Choose your weapon :evil:

[Brew]

Banjos?

[shadow_stalker]

well that was just odd

new question what is your favourite sabbath album with dio?

[i2 enegade]

20 favourite songs? Ok.(they're arranged randomly, 1st is not my favourite)
1.Black Sabbath 2.The Wizard 3.Wicked World 4.Children of The Grave 5.War Pigs 6.National Acrobat 7.Spiral Architect 8.Symptom of the Universe 9.Heaven in Black 10.Never Say Die 11.Johnny Blade 12.Heaven and Hell 13.After Forever 14. Hand of Doom 15.Zero the Hero 16.Born Again 17.Snowblind 18.Under the Sun 19.Anno Mundi 20.Sabbra Cadabra
Alright. Although I could just write the names of all Sabbath songs I know, cos all are gr8...

1. Wheels of confusion
2. Into the void
3. N.I.B
4. War Pigs
5. Spiral architect
6. A national acrobat
7. Solitude
8. Sweet Leaf
9. Iron Man
10. Behind the wall of sleep
11. Symptom of the universe
12. Fairies wear boots
13. Solitude
14Lords of this world
15. Paranoid
16. Embryo/Orchid
17. the Warning
18. St. Vitus' dance
19. Wicked world
20. After forever.

as for post ozzy...stuff on The Mob Rules, and Heaven and hell deserve a mention.

[ToRidTheDisease]

well that was just odd

new question what is your favourite sabbath album with dio?

Mob Rules.

[black_sabbath634]

well that was just odd

new question what is your favourite sabbath album with dio?
either mob rules or heaven and hell, dehumanizer.... not that good, but worth listening 2

[black_sabbath634]

20 favourite songs? Ok.(they're arranged randomly, 1st is not my favourite)
1.Black Sabbath 2.The Wizard 3.Wicked World 4.Children of The Grave 5.War Pigs 6.National Acrobat 7.Spiral Architect 8.Symptom of the Universe 9.Heaven in Black 10.Never Say Die 11.Johnny Blade 12.Heaven and Hell 13.After Forever 14. Hand of Doom 15.Zero the Hero 16.Born Again 17.Snowblind 18.Under the Sun 19.Anno Mundi 20.Sabbra Cadabra
Alright. Although I could just write the names of all Sabbath songs I know, cos all are gr8...
1. headless cross
2. devils daughter
3. heaven and hell
4. call of the wild
5. nib
6. iron man
7. sweet leaf
8. electric funeral
9. hando of doom
10. after forvevr
11. sabra cadabra
12. sabbath bloody sabbath
13. hole in the sky
14. never say die
15. black sabbath
16. the wizard
17. warning
18. wicked world
19. children of the grave
20. war pigs

not in any particular order

[JACKROXYOU]

quite a large thread now. quite deserving of the ***Official*** title.

the dream is alive YEA!!!

any way how bout your favorite black sabbath moment.

or

do your parents listen to sabbath

[wyldesabbath]

who here thinks it's bogus that lil jon got kerry king guitar samples on "manditory suicide" and "raining blood" from rick rubin

[ToRidTheDisease]

who here thinks it's bogus that lil jon got kerry king guitar samples on "manditory suicide" and "raining blood" from rick rubin
This is a Sabbath thread man, go post that somewhere else.

[ToRidTheDisease]

quite a large thread now. quite deserving of the ***Official*** title.

the dream is alive YEA!!!

any way how bout your favorite black sabbath moment.

or

do your parents listen to sabbath
My parent's got me into them.

[JACKROXYOU]

cool mine did too

[black_sabbath634]

my dad liked some good bands, but for some reason he never liked sabbath, its sad

[ToRidTheDisease]

My parents love all old metal and rock.

[JACKROXYOU]

my dad hadn't listened to sabbath forever and then i got sold my soul and now he loves the wizard

he used to love warpigs now the wizard. w/e i love the wizard

[black_sabbath634]

my dad got me into bands like rush, deep purple, zeppelin, the stones, i guess sabbath was 2 heavy for his taste

[Broken Arrow]

my dad got me into bands like rush, deep purple, zeppelin, the stones, i guess sabbath was 2 heavy for his taste
My dad got me into Sabbath by playing Paranoid and Master of Reality for me on viynl.:)

[shadow_stalker]

my parents like sabbath, but they didnt get me into them

[Brew]

My Dad gave me all his Sabbath albums on vinyl, he's also gotten me into Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, Dragonforce, Rhapsody, Samson, Led Zep etc...

Oddly enough, the only Sabbath album I don't have on vinyl is Paranoid...

...coincidence?

Maybe. ;)

And my fav. album with Dio is Heaven and Hell.

[JACKROXYOU]

anybody got a favorite black sabbath moment.

there's bound to be alot of em

[black_sabbath634]

i guess my favorite sabbath moment would be the first time i heard sabbath, my friend recomended them to me, i bought paranoid. I put it on the stereo and i felt like i was going into a new world of music, like i had never heard music that good, it was also my introducction to real metal music.

[JACKROXYOU]

same happened to me but i got sold my soul for rock and roll first

[shadow_stalker]

dont know if this really counts as a sabbath moment but its how i got into them

their was a play on at school which my sister was in (which i got dragged to), and at the half time interval a band came on to entertain the crowed, and they played paranoid so i was thinking "thats bloody good" so after having it in my head for a week straight i found it on the jukebox at a pub in my town and ive put it on every sunday for the past 2 or 3 years

[kredkeee!]

Sabbath was what really got me into metal (now i listen quite a lot to CoF and Polish band VADER), and the person who got me to Sabbath was my cousin. And what's strange it's really ME who slowly gets my parents into heavy metal :), though them bastards don't quite want to... :naughty:

[shadow_stalker]

My Dad gave me all his Sabbath albums on vinyl, he's also gotten me into Alice Cooper, Iron Maiden, Pink Floyd, Dragonforce, Rhapsody, Samson, Led Zep etc...

Oddly enough, the only Sabbath album I don't have on vinyl is Paranoid...

...coincidence?

Maybe. ;)

And my fav. album with Dio is Heaven and Hell.


sometimes i get the feeling that you dont like the album paranoid...

[kredkeee!]

Many people don't. Because it's so-called best album by BS. Yet Paranoid(the song) is one of the most well -known riff in the world, yet too simple (maybe) for us fans... 'The most popular' albums are i think often disliked by fans... aren't they?

[shadow_stalker]

how can their most popular album be disliked by their fans? if that was true it wouldnt be their most popular album

[kredkeee!]

I mean not by all of them. Some fans like it, some not. i do. But its most popular within people that eg normally dot listen to Sabbath or Metal at all. I guess you could take 1000 people who lived in the 70's and get them to listen to Paranoid and most of them would say 'dude i know that, it was cool when i was younger'... And many fans of sabbath i know dislike Paranoid because.. it's so well-known and liked by the not-fans...

[shadow_stalker]

ah, i get what you mean now, yeah i know quite a few people that dont really listen to sabbath but if you ask them to name a sabbath song or album they will say paranoid, but if you ask them something like if they thought that randy rhoads was a good guitar player for sabbath alot of them will say "yeah, he was class" (even though randy didnt play for sabbath), which normally shows whether they do actually listen to sabbath or not...i know what i mean

[unclebobscircus]

Paranoid is a fantastic album, beginning to end. Just because it's popular is no reason not to like it. Master of Reality is better, but Paranoid is pretty **** close.

[shadow_stalker]

i think rat salad is one of the worst sabbath insturmentals that i have heard, FX off volume 4 is one of the only ones i've heard that is worse, that is a terrible song

[SGdudeSG]

Their Self Titled album alog with Masters Of Reality will get you started. :thumb:

123

[kredkeee!]

Master of Reality... Yes. In my opinion all BS albums are great, and i couldn't say any from these i've heard is better than others. But MoR seems to me the first BS album on which they play only Heavy Metal. Black Sabbath and paranoid were more bluesy. Children of the Grave, After Forever, Lord of This World... Simple yet changing and very listenable riffs, hard, 'biting' solos and sooo great vocals of Ozzy... :rolleyes: together with Geezer's bass and Bill's drums it gives one of the hardest Metal albums I've heard...

[unclebobscircus]

i think rat salad is one of the worst sabbath insturmentals that i have heard, FX off volume 4 is one of the only ones i've heard that is worse, that is a terrible song

Rat salad is a great drum solo, the guitar isn't that great but then again it's not the focal point of the song.

[shadow_stalker]

i still say their first album is their best, got to love that bluesy feel

[shadow_stalker]

Rat salad is a great drum solo, the guitar isn't that great but then again it's not the focal point of the song.

oh well, each to his own

but i think that fluff off sabbath bloody sabbath is one of their best

[Magnum357]

I really like Master of Reality and Volume Four

Here are my 10 favourite Black Sabbath songs:

1.Every Day Comes and Goes (Under the Sun)
2.Hand Of Doom
3.Sweet Leaf
4.War Pigs
5.Solitude
6.Orchid
7.Killing Yourself To Live
8.Snowblind
9.Supernaut
10.Behind the Wall of Sleep

-----

Black Sabbath is the first real heavy metal band I had listened to (I heard Def Leppard and other hair bands on the radio when I was a kid :eek: )

Me and my friend would listen to music in the basement, and discuss which guitar solo is better and why.. or in which song Bill Ward's drumming is better.. and so on..

Its good to see some people here who appriciate the good stuff..

[shadow_stalker]

new quetion...again

which post ozzy/dio album is you favourite? (note that means everyone after dio and ozzy)

[kredkeee!]

I heard only (poor me) TYR and Born Again. And I Think they are both really worth listening to. BA's self titled song is beautiful, Zero the Hero's solo is one of Iommi's best i think, and TYR is... also just great. Really bad i cant afford BS albums here in Poland... Too expensive..... And there's so little amounts of them nowadays... :upset: :upset: :upset:

[Brew]

sometimes i get the feeling that you dont like the album paranoid...

Yep, I don't like that album much at all.

It bores me.

[PcGamer3006]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti
No.. ur not crazy! ur just special..... well... they do cuz' led zep started metal althogh not exactly metal... ;)

[shadow_stalker]

if you just buy the best of you have all but 2 songs from paranoid

[PcGamer3006]

would it be a good idea to buy tony iommi's SG.. i got an MG100HDFX by Marshall

[Brew]

if you just buy the best of you have all but 2 songs from paranoid

You also get about 4 non-Ozzy songs.

[Josh]

my dad got me into bands like rush, deep purple, zeppelin, the stones, i guess sabbath was 2 heavy for his taste
my dads randomly a pink floyd and queen fan. got in2 sabbath after a m8 gave me sum ozzy 2 listen 2, then lent me best of black sabbath which i saved on pc

[ToRidTheDisease]

my dads randomly a pink floyd and queen fan. got in2 sabbath after a m8 gave me sum ozzy 2 listen 2, then lent me best of black sabbath which i saved on pc
English?

[Josh]

oh yes

[ToRidTheDisease]

I was just trying to help you out, if you type like that on here a lot, people will flame you.

[shadow_stalker]

You also get about 4 non-Ozzy songs.

yeah, they could do with making a best of volume 2 with songs from the none-ozz years

[Led Guitar]

Iommi should be up there with Clapton, Page and Hendrix

[Brew]

yeah, they could do with making a best of volume 2 with songs from the none-ozz years

Apparently they were going to make a box set of the post Ozzy albums, but I don't know if its going to happen or not.

[Josh]

ok i'll stop using text language then

[Josh]

ok i'll stop using text language then. what sabbath albums should i ask my parents for as a christmas present?

sorry about double post computer went wrong

[shadow_stalker]

Apparently they were going to make a box set of the post Ozzy albums, but I don't know if its going to happen or not.

as much as i loment the post ozzy stuff i would probably get it just to see how it sounded

sackman: get their first album, master of reality or the reunion cd

[Rusted Metal]

ok i'll stop using text language then. what sabbath albums should i ask my parents for as a christmas present?

sorry about double post computer went wrong

My suggestion, ask for, The Original Black Sabbath: Symptom of the Universe 1970-1978. 2 disc set, all Ozzy era songs, a kick @$$ compilation.

[ToRidTheDisease]

ok i'll stop using text language then. what sabbath albums should i ask my parents for as a christmas present?

sorry about double post computer went wrong
Master of Reality, Vol. 4, We Sold Our Souls for Rock and Roll.

[Brew]

My suggestion, ask for, The Original Black Sabbath: Symptom of the Universe 1970-1978. 2 disc set, all Ozzy era songs, a kick @$$ compilation.

That'd be great as a first album to get.

4,666th post in the Sabbath thread.

How evil.

[Josh]

im not even up to 66 posts yet
ah well. thanks for suggestions

[Josh]

can anyone else think of the song that has almost exactly the same riff as children of the grave?
(its not another sabbath one)

[JACKROXYOU]

can anyone else think of the song that has almost exactly the same riff as children of the grave?
(its not another sabbath one)

o i know what your talkin about

i heard it on the radio and i thought it was but it wasnt and i didnt hear who it was

[JACKROXYOU]

any other good sabbath moments?

sabbath saved me from gettin the **** beat out of me. I was at a concert and these guys decided to start somethin when i knocked into em and i dropped my walkmen. the dude who i bumped into(who was huge)was gettin real pissed and picked up and opened it. heaven and hell was in there. He said nice cd man and walked off.

[shadow_stalker]

i cant remember which one but there is a metallica song that has the same riff as children of the grave, i'll try and find out

[Master guitarist123]

who are the band members and who plays which instrument :confused:

[Master guitarist123]

**** i been waitng for a long time someone plz tell me :angry:

[kredkeee!]

who are the band members and who plays which instrument
Are you askin' 'bout Sabbath? If yes: Tony Iommi - guitars, Terry Butler - Bass, Bill Ward - drums, Ozzy - vocals. Thats for their first 8 albums... Want precise info then get to black-sabbath.com =>band personnel

[Brew]

Are you askin' 'bout Sabbath? If yes: Tony Iommi - guitars, Terry Butler - Bass, Bill Ward - drums, Ozzy - vocals. Thats for their first 8 albums... Want precise info then get to black-sabbath.com =>band personnel

Black-Sabbath.com is where most of my info comes from.

I spent ages reading the timeline page once, its really interesting.

[shadow_stalker]

i did that once, i didnt remember most of the stuff that i read

is that the official site, because if you go to www.blacksabbath.com it says official site coming soon, but joe siegler's site seems to have become official since people like bill ward have put stuff towards it

me needs a sabbath t-shirt :upset:

[Brew]

Joe Siegler = God.

tr00f.

I might be getting a Sabbath hoody after xmas :)

[shadow_stalker]

lucky bastard, joe siegle did a really good job with that site.

did you sign up for the email newsletter thing?

it has some good stuff in

[Brew]

Nah, I check the website once every few weeks though.

[shadow_stalker]

its pretty good, but their can be quite a few times when it is oure shite

have you seen the updated ozzy site, it has been completely re-done but last time i was on their was a thing set up so that you had to register and i think that only yanks can register on it

EDIT: just checked i think that they have taken that off

[Brew]

I haven't been on Ozzy's site for ages, last time I was there it was pretty crap.

[shadow_stalker]

everything has changed on it, i really hope they fired whoever made the old it was the wrost band/musiacins site ive ever seen

[Brew]

Cool, I might check it out later if I remember.

Did anyone read the interview with Iommi in the latest Total Guitar magazine? Its a pretty bog-standard interview but he says he considered becomming a bass player after chopping his fingers into little pieces.

[shadow_stalker]

im so glad that he didnt become a bass player, but i cant help wonder what it would have been like if he had


you need to register to get access to cartain parts of ozzy's site, also its been changed s that you dont have to be american to register (is it just paranoia that i dont want to give my phone number to the ozzy site?)

[Brew]

Meh.

I'm too lazy to register for things.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Man Andy, the power metal nerd is coming out worse. :lol: I picked up a dagger today at the flea market.

[shadow_stalker]

how are geezers solo albums, ive heared mixed things about them but i've never bithered to get off my arse and buy one

lord_brum are you a bass player?

[Brew]

Man Andy, the power metal nerd is coming out worse. I picked up a dagger today at the flea market.

All we need now is pics.

how are geezers solo albums, ive heared mixed things about them but i've never bithered to get off my arse and buy one

lord_brum are you a bass player?

I've not heard any of Geezers solo stuff, only Bills.

And yes I am a bass player.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I'll have a pic of my new sword up soon.

[shadow_stalker]

is it not illegal to have things like swords?

[ToRidTheDisease]

http://tinypic.com/ocyzk
http://tinypic.com/ocz0h
http://tinypic.com/ocz0p
http://tinypic.com/ocz1h
http://tinypic.com/ocz8i

Theres the pics.

Anyway, I didn't even know that Geezer did anything solo.

[Brew]

http://tinypic.com/ocyzk
http://tinypic.com/ocz0h
http://tinypic.com/ocz0p
http://tinypic.com/ocz1h
http://tinypic.com/ocz8i

Theres the pics.

Anyway, I didn't even know that Geezer did anything solo.

:lol:

You sir, are a great nerd. :thumb:

I think Geezers solo stuff went under the name ''G//Z//R'', something like that.

[rippa32]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the "true" black sabbath is the Tony, Ozzy, Geezer, Bill lineup and that all other albums should have been Iommi solo or under another name.

[unclebobscircus]

Is it just me or does anyone else think that the "true" black sabbath is the Tony, Ozzy, Geezer, Bill lineup and that all other albums should have been Iommi solo or under another name.

Completely. Well, as long as Ozzy and Tony are there, it sounds like Sabbath. Great as they are, Bill Ward and Geezer Butler are replaceable.

[Brew]

Eh, just aslong as Tony is there its Black Sabbath, he owns all the rights to the name etc...

[unclebobscircus]

Eh, just aslong as Tony is there its Black Sabbath, he owns all the rights to the name etc...

I don't mean in a technical sense, I mean by the band's sound.

[Brew]

I don't mean in a technical sense, I mean by the band's sound.

To me it all sounds like Black Sabbath, whenever I hear anything by them I always know its them mainly due to Tony's playing style.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I still think of Ozzy when I hear Black Sabbath.

[luvcifer]

my favorite song of all time by ozzy osborne is crazy train

it has such a great guitar riff and things of that sort

[rippa32]

Yeah its just when I hear the name "Black Sabbath" i immediatly think of the original lineup. And unclebobscircus i disagree with the dispsable thing. Although I do think Cozy Powell is a better drummer than Bill.

[shadow_stalker]

ozzy is always the person that comes to my mind when i think sabbath, but after him its iommi, then geezer and bill at the same time

really tony isnt really anything special now, back when they were fairly new it was like "bloody hell listen to that guiatr" and so on, but so many people have copied his playing style that it isnt reall that great (but you can still tell if it's an iommi riff), there need to be more origional guitar players rahter than ones who just want to be like their favourite guitarist, same goes for drumming, bass and vocal

[Brew]

Yeah its just when I hear the name "Black Sabbath" i immediatly think of the original lineup. And unclebobscircus i disagree with the dispsable thing. Although I do think Cozy Powell is a better drummer than Bill.

Thats because Cozy was one of the best drummers in the world :thumb:

[Brew]

my favorite song of all time by ozzy osborne is crazy train

it has such a great guitar riff and things of that sort

Its a good song, gets a bit boring after hearing it many times though....kinda like the Paranoid album ;)


Also, can anyone explain to me why some people think that Black Sabbath did Crazy Train?

[Brew]

ATTN: Josh

I've found what I want for x-mas.

Its the Misfits box-set thats a coffin shape.

In it you get : Collection I, Collection II (I already have that on vinyl), Evil Live and Legacy of Brutality

You also get Static Age (which I already have) and about 100 rare demos and studio outtakes from about 1977 to when Danzig left the band, plus a full colour booklet with complete lyrics and a list of their rare vinyl.

It only costs £35 :D

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000I2W/qid=1101568380/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/202-1514275-2287868

/off topic

[kredkeee!]

Completely. Well, as long as Ozzy and Tony are there, it sounds like Sabbath. Great as they are, Bill Ward and Geezer Butler are replaceable.
I think not completely replacable. Geezer is for me a god of bass playing, and Bill... well, he's not as good as Cozy Powell (whom I adore, after hearing TYR), but still he sounds great with other 'original lineup' guys. Is it my mind or BS sounded soooo much different and well.. was played on higher notes after ozzy and dio eras?

[shadow_stalker]

tony proved that all members are replaceable when he fired ozzy then geezer and bill left, even tony is replacable

[kredkeee!]

Maybe. But I think Sabbath without Tony would be completely different. They might be popular but they would never be the same

[shadow_stalker]

they were never the same without ozzy, bill and geezer but it kept going

[ToRidTheDisease]

ATTN: Josh

I've found what I want for x-mas.

Its the Misfits box-set thats a coffin shape.

In it you get : Collection I, Collection II (I already have that on vinyl), Evil Live and Legacy of Brutality

You also get Static Age (which I already have) and about 100 rare demos and studio outtakes from about 1977 to when Danzig left the band, plus a full colour booklet with complete lyrics and a list of their rare vinyl.

It only costs £35 :D

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000I2W/qid=1101568380/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_11_1/202-1514275-2287868

/off topic
Oh man that's awesome. I told my parents that I want that for Christmas and they said okay. I don't know what they meant by okay but I hope they'll get it.

[shadow_stalker]

are the misfits any good?

you two talk about them quite a bit...well a bit but i've never heard them

[ToRidTheDisease]

are the misfits any good?

you two talk about them quite a bit...well a bit but i've never heard them
Let me put it this way, I am a huge metal head, and the Misfits are one of my favorite bands, i've yet to hear an unlistenable song by them.

[shadow_stalker]

im guessing that they are not metal then

[ToRidTheDisease]

im guessing that they are not metal then
They are punk, but you can see some thrash in them too in some songs.

[shadow_stalker]

cool i might have to check them out

[ToRidTheDisease]

cool i might have to check them out
Nice avatar. :thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

thanks, cant say that im surprised that you said that though

new question:

who is your favourite sabbath singer?

mine is god himself, ozzy osbourne

[shadow_stalker]

http://p217.ezboard.com/fjoestumpmessageboardjoestumpmessageboard.showNext Message?topicID=218.topic

now there is a top 100 guitarist list that i like

[Lord Abortion]

****ing mint av. mate
(i'd rep you but mine don't count cos im - 172)
plus I dont believe eddie van halen was better than Jimmy page
or that adrian and dave from maiden are only at no.11

[shadow_stalker]

yes but tony iommi is number 1, zakk wylde is number 8 and randy rhoads is number 4 (even though randy should be number 2 because he owns kirk hammet)

ollie what was that site you were talking about on friday (or thursday) cd something


*gives you rep points out of pity*

[Lord Abortion]

uh... www.cdzlimited.org
cheers for the reppage

[Brew]

Let me put it this way, I am a huge metal head, and the Misfits are one of my favorite bands, i've yet to hear an unlistenable song by them.

123

Did you see my pink Misfits vinyl pics?

[ToRidTheDisease]

123

Did you see my pink Misfits vinyl pics?
Yeah, i've been trying to find that one everywhere.

[Brew]

Yeah, i've been trying to find that one everywhere.

When I got mine I was looking at Collection II, and the dude working in the shop handed me the EP, and said its worth buying.

So I did.

Happy Hunting.

[rippa32]

Does anyone know of all the albums from Black Sabbath that cozy drummed in? Cause I just got Tyr and I would like another one with him in it.

[Brew]

I think he drummed on Headless Cross and The Eternal Idol.

He features on The Sabbath Stones album aswell, which is a best of without Ozzy songs.

[rippa32]

OK thanks Lord Brum. btw It would be interesting to find out how many people know where your avatar came from. I'm geussing not many.

[Josh]

dear god finally found this thread on the third page. fvcking dreadfull. just voted NIB on best R&M songs

[luvcifer]

there is a song called black sabbath, its on their first album aslo called black sabbath
i thought they're first album was "we sold our soul for rock n roll"

[Brew]

i thought they're first album was "we sold our soul for rock n roll"

:eek:

/pokes you with the silly stick.

We Sold Our Souls...is their first Compilation Album (I think, Greatest Hits may have come first)

OK thanks Lord Brum. btw It would be interesting to find out how many people know where your avatar came from. I'm geussing not many.

In the Pit there's quite a few people who know where Bob comes from, there have been a few threads hijacked with insult duels :)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Where's the hippo pirate?

[Brew]

Where's the hippo pirate?

He died.

I still have him saved somewhere, but I was getting bored of it.


I used to have your avatar stuck in the back of my homework diary thing last year :thumb:

[ToRidTheDisease]

He died.

I still have him saved somewhere, but I was getting bored of it.


I used to have your avatar stuck in the back of my homework diary thing last year :thumb:
Oh I see.

I found somewhere with that Project 1950 Vinyl today. I might be getting it soon.

[Brew]

^Its a great album.

Only 25mins long aswell.

[rippa32]

I just bought Volume 4. I think it is a huge letdown. Does anyone else agree with me?

[shadow_stalker]

when i first got it i thought it was a really bad album but when i listened to it more i grew to like it (except FX that song is just shite)

just learnt iron man on the guitar woo!!!


just voted war pigs on todays poll :thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

i thought they're first album was "we sold our soul for rock n roll"


you sir need a slap! :angry:

[Brew]

I just bought Volume 4. I think it is a huge letdown. Does anyone else agree with me?

NO.

Sorry, but no.

Really

No.

Gah.

No.

I won't insult you, but its my favourite album.

[ToRidTheDisease]

NO.

Sorry, but no.

Really

No.

Gah.

No.

I won't insult you, but its my favourite album.

you sir need a slap! :angry:

Hey, I think that's the call for you Andy.

[Brew]

Hey, I think that's the call for you Andy.

Eh, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[ToRidTheDisease]

True.

But anyway, from what i've heard from Vol. 4, it's a great album.

[black_sabbath634]

yeah it is a great album, not as good as maybe master of reality or sabbath bloody sabbath, its kind of the forgotten album of the ozzy era, its underrated.

[Brew]

^Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die! are alot more underrated than Vol.4

But in my opinion, Vol.4 is a true Sabbath fan's album.

[JACKROXYOU]

^Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die! are alot more underrated than Vol.4

But in my opinion, Vol.4 is a true Sabbath fan's album.

agreed the definition of classic. it should be givin out in the mail.

[rippa32]

when i first got it i thought it was a really bad album but when i listened to it more i grew to like it (except FX that song is just shite)


I agree it does get better the more you listen to it. I think I posted way too early. btw Even though I do not like FX I think it is interesting the way they made it. I heard that they knocked Tony's crucifix pendant against his guitar and then they added some echo effects.

[Josh]

shadow stalker says he wasnt insulting you lord brummington (hes sitting next to me at school now)

when you guys reckon sabbath will start work on a new album?

[shadow_stalker]

I agree it does get better the more you listen to it. I think I posted way too early. btw Even though I do not like FX I think it is interesting the way they made it. I heard that they knocked Tony's crucifix pendant against his guitar and then they added some echo effects.


whatever it is i really dont like it

i hope that sabbath would start a new album in 2006, hopefully with ozzy singing

[kredkeee!]

Hopefully. But I think they will not make any more albums. Ozzy is too much into the MTV busines I think... Yet it would be cool if they recorded something eg. with Tony Martin......

[shadow_stalker]

id still prefer ozzy singing on it, most of the MTV **** that he has been doing is almost finished anyway

but there may not be a new album as ozzy has got a solo album (bible of ozz, out sometime around january 2006) coming out so he should be doing a tour to support that

he better come to newcastle, i was well pissed last time when he had his accident and couldnt play

[kredkeee!]

Huh pity he didnt come to Poland during Ozzfest like he did back in 1998. I ain't seen Sabbath live EVER :upset: :upset: :upset: ... Wasn't Bible of Ozz meant to be like another compilation like the Black Box but for Ozzy solo?