Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

[ToRidTheDisease]

Ok here JACKROXYOU, a timeline too

Lead guitar:
Tony Iommi 1969 - present

Vocals:
Ozzy Osbourne - 1969 thru September 1977
Dave Walker - October 1977 thru January 1978
Ozzy Osbourne - January 1978 thru May 1979
Ronnie James Dio - May 1979 thru November 1982
Ian Gillan - January 1983 thru March 1984
Dave Donato - Unknown in 1984 for a few weeks
Jeff Fenholt? - January 1985 to September 1985
Glenn Hughes - September 1985 thru March 1986
Ray Gillen - March 1986 thru August 1987
Tony Martin - August 1987 thru April 1991
Ronnie James Dio - April 1991 thru November 13, 1992
Rob Halford - November 14 & 15, 1992
Tony Martin - Spring 1993 to December 1995
Ozzy Osbourne - March 1997 to present

Bass:
Geezer Butler - 1969 through mid 1984
Gordon Copley - January 1985 thru September 1985
Dave Spitz - September 1985 thru September 1986
Bob Daisley - September 1986 through October 1986
Dave Spitz - July 1987
Joe Burt - November 1987 thru December 1987
Geoff Nicholls - May 1988
Laurence Cottle - October 1988
Neil Murray - April 1989 thru April 1991
Geezer Butler - April 1991 thru October 1994
Neil Murray - October 1994 thru December 1995
Geezer Butler - Mar 1997 to current

Drums:
Bill Ward - 1969 thru August 1980
Vinny Appice - August 1980 thru November 1982
Bill Ward - January 1983 thru August 1983
Bev Bevan - August 1983 thru Summer 1984
Bill Ward - Summer 1984
Eric Singer - September 1985 thru January 1987
Bev Bevan - June 1987 to October 1987
Terry Chimes - November 1987 thru March 1988
Cozy Powell - October 1988 thru April 1991
Vinny Appice - April 1991 thru November 16, 1992
Bobby Rondinelli - Spring 1993 thru August 1994
Bill Ward - August 1994 through September 1994
Cozy Powell - October 1994 thru July 1995
Bobby Rondinelli - July 1995 thru December 1995
Mike Bordin - Mar 1997 to June 29, 1997
Shannon Larkin - July 1, 1997
Bill Ward - November 1997 May 1998
Vinny Appice - May 1998 to September 1998
Bill Ward - September 1998 to present

Keyboard:
Rick Wakeman - 1973
Jezz Woodruffe - 1974 through 1977
Don Airey - 1978
Geoff Nicholls - 1979 through 2004
Adam Wakeman - June 2004 to present

[JMetallica]

Cool, I know how to use the ctrl and c keys too, but how many of those do you know off by heart?

[ToRidTheDisease]

I could name all but a few, not the exact timeline though.

[ToRidTheDisease]

And BTW I didn't C&P it, I had to type it because the source i got it from was all weird and messed up.

[the_zeppelin_volta]

playing sabbath on guitar is really easy i've noticed, but it's fun.
it mostly owerchords, slow riffs and soloing which is better doing an improvization
cuz if you listen very well most of iommi's solos are just improvized

[heinrichkuhn]

I haven't actually listened to anything off Technical Ecstasy or Never Say Die before. What are the songs like compared with say tracks off Paranoid and Volume 4?

[shadow_stalker]

I mean any ozzy or sabbath songs.


just checking

[shadow_stalker]

playing sabbath on guitar is really easy i've noticed, but it's fun.
it mostly owerchords, slow riffs and soloing which is better doing an improvization
cuz if you listen very well most of iommi's solos are just improvized


they sound like they are but they are not, he works them all out before a live show rather than playing anything that goes with it, its still improvised but not on the spot improvised (if you catch what im saying)

[Brew]

I haven't actually listened to anything off Technical Ecstasy or Never Say Die before. What are the songs like compared with say tracks off Paranoid and Volume 4?

They're alot different to Paranoid, kinda less heavy and in my opinion, alot better. Lyric-wise, they're almost on the same level as Vol.4

And if I'm right, every person whose played in Black Sabbath, is still alive.

[Brew]

And on the topic of line-ups, there have been roughly 30 different Black Sabbath line-ups over the past 30 years.

[shadow_stalker]

And if I'm right, every person whose played in Black Sabbath, is still alive.


even though most of them should have died from drug abuse, alchoholism (is that a real word) and various other things

[Brew]

Ozzy should have died in 1980.
Bill Ward should have died in the mid-80's or after his heart attack.

They're like....invincible.

[shadow_stalker]

that is useful to know maybe they could take over the world

has tony ever had anything like a heart attack?

[Brew]

Nope, to my knowledge Tony is fit as a fiddle.


So..I just heard a cover of Solitude by Cathedral, and they didn't ruin it too much. The music is pretty much the same and the vocals are a bit less mellow than Ozzy's, and in some parts it sounds like they're playing his voice in the background. But overall its a good cover :thumb:

[RideTheTiger]

Sweet leaf is my favorite sabbath song :D Easy to play on bass and still cool

[Brew]

I learnt Sabbra Cadabra on bass yesterday, its pretty cool and fun to play, there's loads of space at the end to improvise :)

[CJR]

bLACK sABATH rOCKS

[Brew]

^Dude, learn to stop posting like that, it'll seriously prevent furture flames :thumb:

[ToRidTheDisease]

bLACK sABATH rOCKS
If your gonna post your thoughts, at least explain why you think they rock.

[JACKROXYOU]

Thanks for that LaihoRocker666

you did that to the numbers (claps*) Bravo

[ToRidTheDisease]

Thanks for that LaihoRocker666

you did that to the numbers (claps*) Bravo
No problem. :thumb:

[JACKROXYOU]

you did forget that ozzy played harmonica but thats a technacality

[ToRidTheDisease]

you did forget that ozzy played harmonica but thats a technacality
Yeah, I thought about that earlier.

[JACKROXYOU]

sorry just try to bust your chops

[Brew]

I wonder if Ozzy is still able to play the harmonica?

[JACKROXYOU]

have you seen battle for ozzfest?

you can actually understand what hes say about 98% of the time

who knows, i would say yes he can

[ToRidTheDisease]

Yeah, he is doing so much better.

[Brew]

I've always been able to understand Ozzy, its not all that difficult.

Then again, I lived in Brum for 8 years.

[JACKROXYOU]

very true.
i never had trouble but he sounds alot clearer now that hes not poppin as much(or poppin more) pills.

didnt they find out that his old doctor was a quack and was dopin him up?

[Brew]

His old doctor had him on far too many drugs, I think they sued him for it.

[i2 enegade]

sabbath....pure blues based rock...i love it. i'm a die hard fan of everything from their self titled debut to Sabotage. It does go downhill from there imo. Anyways a couple of good songs to check out Solitude, Thrill of it all, into the void, war pigs, Behind the wall of sleep, Hand of doom, Wheels of confusion, electric funeral, and many more.

exceptional bass, drums, guitar and vocals....great stuff.

[Brew]

sabbath....pure blues based rock...i love it. i'm a die hard fan of everything from their self titled debut to Sabotage. It does go downhill from there imo. Anyways a couple of good songs to check out Solitude, Thrill of it all, into the void, war pigs, Behind the wall of sleep, Hand of doom, Wheels of confusion, electric funeral, and many more.

exceptional bass, drums, guitar and vocals....great stuff.

You sir, are the only other person here to recommend Solitude.

The other person being me.

[heinrichkuhn]

Changes brings a tear to the eye

[JACKROXYOU]

Solitude nice nice... anyways

you got to admit there was like ... season 2 of the Osbournes he was soundin really bad like

dedudheuehe **** fedefedeedd dog.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Solitude nice nice... anyways

you got to admit there was like ... season 2 of the Osbournes he was soundin really bad like

dedudheuehe **** fedefedeedd dog.
Yeah, he was. I think he is a lot better now, which is good to see.

[JACKROXYOU]

LORD BRUMMINGTON put it best they're invincible

Ozboy did what in that atv accident. broke: ribs, pelvis, neck(or badly stubbed/bruise)

and that saved his life got him off 4,345 pills

[Hardest_Rocker]

Black Sabbath rocks. GO OZZY AND DIO AND TONY MARTIN AND IAN! (and whoever else has sung for them over these years)

[JACKROXYOU]

Take your pick heheh

Ozzy Osbourne - 1969 thru September 1977
Dave Walker - October 1977 thru January 1978
Ozzy Osbourne - January 1978 thru May 1979
Ronnie James Dio - May 1979 thru November 1982
Ian Gillan - January 1983 thru March 1984
Dave Donato - Unknown in 1984 for a few weeks
Jeff Fenholt? - January 1985 to September 1985
Glenn Hughes - September 1985 thru March 1986
Ray Gillen - March 1986 thru August 1987
Tony Martin - August 1987 thru April 1991
Ronnie James Dio - April 1991 thru November 13, 1992
Rob Halford - November 14 & 15, 1992
Tony Martin - Spring 1993 to December 1995
Ozzy Osbourne - March 1997 to present

[JACKROXYOU]

well lets get another question goin ( i luv it)

What movie really had a lot of Black Sabbath references. (beside School of Rock)

[Brew]

LORD BRUMMINGTON put it best they're invincible

Ozboy did what in that atv accident. broke: ribs, pelvis, neck(or badly stubbed/bruise)

and that saved his life got him off 4,345 pills

It'll be a sad day when Ozzy finally dies.

[Brew]

well lets get another question goin ( i luv it)

What movie really had a lot of Black Sabbath references. (beside School of Rock)

I don't know, but there's a film called Black Sabbath, it was released in...1922 and it was by Boris somethingsomething.*has forgotten his surname*

[slash89]

Someone should start a metallica thread... I'm kidding, hehe...

[shankar]

Black Sabbath is the best band ever, I love all their songs, no band in the world is better.

Black Sabbath from 1970-1978 that is...after that you cant really call it Black Sabbath, its just plain 80's crap.

Sabbath Rules!!

Hi
I cant agree with you more..I am die hard fan of sabbath 1970-78...Greatest band in the world..Sabbath rules!!!
Shankar

[vaiminion]

they do a little bit, but not too much
Hmmm, I don't beileve they did just a little bit, Black Sabbath created and exposed the whole world to this music. Without Black Sabbath, there wouldn't be all these bands there are today such as Deftones, Slipknot, Metallica, Slayer, Megadeath. You get my point... I hope. Black Sabbath created Heavy Metal, then Metallica came along and perfected it. So you better thank Ozzy, for he gave us the music we all crave the most. Heavy Metal baby!!!!!

[vaiminion]

they do a little bit, but not too much
Hmmm, I don't beileve they did just a little bit, Black Sabbath created and exposed the whole world to this music. Without Black Sabbath, there wouldn't be all these bands there are today such as Deftones, Slipknot, Metallica, Slayer, Megadeath. You get my point... I hope. Black Sabbath created Heavy Metal, then Metallica came along and perfected it. So you better thank Ozzy, for he gave us the music we all crave the most. Heavy Metal baby!!!!!

[Brew]

^*cough*TonycreatedtheriffsthatapparentlycreatedHe avyMetal*cough*

:)

[Daywalker]

Black Sabbath......first album.....first song.....

[ToRidTheDisease]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti
That was directed at this quote.

[dylancampbell]

Their first two albums (Black Sabbath, and Paranoid) were definitely the best. Their later stuff sucked because they felt they had to live up to their "metal" standards. But the best songs would have to be Wicked World, Black Sabbath (song that got me into them), and War Pigs. And just think, it all started with that flat 5th in their first song...

[Brew]

Paranoid = Over-rated.

Sure it was a great album, but its way too over-rated and causes their later stuff to be over-looked for not being as ''metal'', I quite liked the use of synthesisers, instrumentals and all the different styles they did in the later albums.

[heinrichkuhn]

Their first two albums (Black Sabbath, and Paranoid) were definitely the best. Their later stuff sucked because they felt they had to live up to their "metal" standards. But the best songs would have to be Wicked World, Black Sabbath (song that got me into them), and War Pigs. And just think, it all started with that flat 5th in their first song...

Dude Master Of Reality, Volume 4 and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath RULE

[Brew]

^As do Sabotage, Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die!

From the Ozzy-era.

[turkeyjerky]

Parinoid is amazing I heard it was written just to be a filler or something..

[heinrichkuhn]

Paranoid(the song) was written in the space of about 5minutes, they didn't even know what the word meant when they were writing the song.

It is an awesome song man

[Brew]

Its a boring song.

Good intro riff, boring verse, no real chorus, bog-standard solo.

Its catchy, but I really don't like it at all.

[the_runts]

iron man is my fav but i really like paranoid also

[ToRidTheDisease]

Yeah, Paranoid is one of my favorites.

[sabbathfan37]

There's a song on SBS featuring an Anvil?

I know too much about Sabbath, i r teh sabbath nerd. :cool:

But I'm confused about this anvil thing, care to explain? :)



well, glad to know im not alone :thumb:

[sabbathfan37]

Am i the only one whos fav's are 'supernaut' or 'into the void'?!?!?! :confused:

[Brew]

^No, you're not.

Supernaut is one of my fav. Sabbath songs, along with the rest of the Vol.4 album.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

They should make this an official Black Sabbath thread.

[Brew]

Indeed.

Give me 5 mins to post it in the suggestions thread.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Indeed.

Give me 5 mins to post it in the suggestions thread.

You read my mind.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

^No, you're not.

Supernaut is one of my fav. Sabbath songs, along with the rest of the Vol.4 album.

Isn't Supernaut post-Ozzy?

[Brew]

Posted.

Hopefully it'll get changed, its the longest running Sabbath thread and there's been some good discussions in here.

[Brew]

Isn't Supernaut post-Ozzy?


Nopers, its on Vol.4.

I downloaded a live version with....Tony Martin on vocals, and he kinda killed it. I also have a version with Rob Halford on vocals, which is fantastic.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Nopers, its on Vol.4.

I downloaded a live version with....Tony Martin on vocals, and he kinda killed it. I also have a version with Rob Halford on vocals, which is fantastic.

I must have one of those versions then.

[Brew]

If its the Halford version, its has about half of Supernaut, then it flies into Neon Knights.

[sabbathfan37]

Isn't Supernaut post-Ozzy?

uhh... NO. first off, there were some selections off that on 'symptom of the universe' (~album), second, why would ozzy be on the cover if it was post-ozz?

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

uhh... NO. first off, there were some selections off that on 'symptom of the universe' (~album), second, why would ozzy be on the cover if it was post-ozz?

I don't have the album chill out.

[Brew]

C'mon guys, less of the nasty posts.

Learn to answer questions nicely, and respect others opinions please.

[sabbathfan37]

uhh... NO. first off, there were some selections off that on 'symptom of the universe' (~album), second, why would ozzy be on the cover if it was post-ozz?

my bad- i thought you were talkin' about the albom vol. 4~ thats what its from.

[sabbathfan37]

I don't have the album chill out.

sorry- didnt know. its a great album i suggest that one to be your next 'sabbath album.

[thenextiommi]

the warning would be my favorite if it wasnt so **** long so i guess snowblind

[sabbathfan37]

^^^^

it is pretty cool, almost the whole thing is a guitar solo!

[asuds9]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti
This guy isn't nuts. I noticed that and people said I was crazy. I've always thought that they had a similar sound. Best song ever = Fairies wear boots

[Zefferon]

Well, they were both bands of this classic rock/heavy metal gap bridging, so it's not that strange. It's just that Sabbath was far more on the metal side, especially post-Paranoid.

[Jude]

War Pigs isn't much like Zeppelin though...

[Zefferon]

Maybe I should correct myself, everting post-S/T album is more metal. Paranoid is a good mixture of the original classic rock style of Sabbath and the style they had which would eventualy become Heavy Metal.

[ToRidTheDisease]

It seems like overall, most people's favorite song is War Pigs.

[Zefferon]

Makes sense, figuring it is a very solid song. And, at the very least, the lyrics are relivant today.

Me, I can't say a favorite song. Heaven and Hell, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, NIB, and War Pigs are very soild songs I can't help but like. Planet Caravan and Spiral Archetect are cool songs in their own way. Neon Knights and Symptom of the Universe kick ***, though Neon Knights might just be because of Dio's voice.

[JACKROXYOU]

If any one was wondering it was Almost Famous which pretty funny movie.

Black Sabboth-1922 was where tony got the idea or whoever(not real big expert on who) for the band name and title song correct?

[Zefferon]

I'm pretty sure it was "Geezer" Bulter who wrote most of the song Black Sabbath, but I'm sure it wasn't named after Sabboth. It makes sense when you know what "sabbath" is.

[sabbathfan37]

If any one was wondering it was Almost Famous which pretty funny movie.

Black Sabboth-1922 was where tony got the idea or whoever(not real big expert on who) for the band name and title song correct?


actually, the band name came from the movie 'black sabbath' by boris karlof in 1963.
the song, ozzy came up with. he got it from geezer's strange encounter. one night, this black figure appeared at the foot of geezer's bed. he thought it was satan. after that, he painted his room orange. when ozzy heard that, he wrote the song 'black sabbath'. and actually (contrary to popular belief) the song discourages satanism.

[ToRidTheDisease]

actually, the band name came from the movie 'black sabbath' by boris karlof in 1963.
the song, ozzy came up with. he got it from geezer's strange encounter. one night, this black figure appeared at the foot of geezer's bed. he thought it was satan. after that, he painted his room orange. when ozzy heard that, he wrote the song 'black sabbath'. and actually (contrary to popular belief) the song discourages satanism.
Interesting info there.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Whoa I just got confused, which Sabbath song goes: "Nobody will ever let you know, when you ask the reason why, they just tell you that you're on your own"?

Edit: Nevermind, sorry about my stupidity.

[TerryThorne]

sabbath bloody sabbath

[sabbathfan37]

Whoa I just got confused, which Sabbath song goes: "Nobody will ever let you know, when you ask the reason why, they just tell you that you're on your own"?

Edit: Nevermind, sorry about my stupidity.

I beleive that would be 'sabbath bloody sabbath'

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

sorry- didnt know. its a great album i suggest that one to be your next 'sabbath album.

It's alright I see you only have 8 posts. It takes sometime to get used to this place :D

[heinrichkuhn]

Nopers, its on Vol.4.

I downloaded a live version with....Tony Martin on vocals, and he kinda killed it. I also have a version with Rob Halford on vocals, which is fantastic.

Judas Priest = almost as good as Sabbath

[Lateralias]

What Sabbath song has the best solo from Tony Iommi? I've heard "The Warning" and it's quite nice. :thumb:

[heinrichkuhn]

thats what geezer says on the story of.. vol 1

i know it not really sabbath but has anyone heared the origional version of black sabbath and war pigs that are on ozzy's ozzman cometh album?

Well it is Black Sabbath really.

[shadow_stalker]

yeah it is but its on an ozzy album so...

[Brew]

Judas Priest = almost as good as Sabbath

Rob Halford = From the same town as me (Walsall) :cool:

[Brew]

What Sabbath song has the best solo from Tony Iommi? I've heard "The Warning" and it's quite nice. :thumb:

The Warning wasn't written by Iommi, at least I don't think it was, the writing credits have it as been written by ''Dunbar''.

And w00t, we're an Official thread now :cool:

[Brew]

actually, the band name came from the movie 'black sabbath' by boris karlof in 1963.
the song, ozzy came up with. he got it from geezer's strange encounter. one night, this black figure appeared at the foot of geezer's bed. he thought it was satan. after that, he painted his room orange. when ozzy heard that, he wrote the song 'black sabbath'. and actually (contrary to popular belief) the song discourages satanism.

/me adds more details.

Geezer got given a book all about Witchcraft, Black Magic etc...and he kept it locked away in a cupboard. One night he saw the black figure at the end of his bed, got scared almost to the point of pooping himself (ok, maybe I made that bit up), and then got rid of everything to do with Satan in his room. When he checked to see if the book was still in its cupboard the next morning, it had vanished.

Not long afte, he wrote the lyric ''What is this, that stands before me. Figure in black, which points at me'', which was related to his experience.

And on the topic of film/song/band name, the song Black Sabbath came first, they named the band after the song. I believe the song was named after the film Black Sabbath.

[shadow_stalker]

The Warning wasn't written by Iommi, at least I don't think it was, the writing credits have it as been written by ''Dunbar''.

And w00t, we're an Official thread now :cool:

woo we rock!!!

[Brew]

I don't know why, but the chorus to Zero the Hero make me laugh:

"What you gonna be, what you gonna be brother
Zero the Hero
Don't you wanna be, don't you wanna be brother
Zero the Hero
When you gonna be, when you gonna be brother
Zero the Hero
Impossibility impissibolity mother
Really a Hero"

They just make me think of Hulk Hogan, standing in a wrestling ring calling out a wrestler, because he said ''Brother'' alot.


/random

[ToRidTheDisease]

Hey it got stickied, I wanna thank the people who kept posting good to keep this thread alive, also, thanks to Lord Brummington.

[JACKROXYOU]

lets see 2 questions!

1. how has ozzy almost died since we've known him?

2. which members of any era of Black Sabbath have died.

kinda depressing questions.

[Brew]

lets see 2 questions!

1. how has ozzy almost died since we've known him?

2. which members of any era of Black Sabbath have died.

kinda depressing questions.

1) He flew off a quad and has gotten screwed up on drugs multiple times. He also got diagnosed with Multiple Schilrosis back in the 90's, but he got over it.

2) Cozy Powell, 1947 - 1988.

[Brew]

Hey it got stickied, I wanna thank the people who kept posting good to keep this thread alive, also, thanks to Lord Brummington.

123.

To my knowledge, this is the longest running Sabbath thread that hasn't de-generated into an Ozzy vs Other singers thread.

[JACKROXYOU]

wow i cant get nothin by you guys.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Woa, since when did this become official? :chug:

[Brew]

Last night :)

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Cool.

[JACKROXYOU]

it's been offical for awile right LORD. since like saturday

[Brew]

No, since last night.

Silly n00b :p

;)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Well i'm happy, i just got a record player so now I can listen to my Sabbath records.

[Brew]

^w00t.

Sabbath on vinyl is great, screw all this new re-mastered poopoo.

Vinyl > Cd's.

Make sure you turn up the volume at the end of The Writ on Sabotage, so you can hear Blow on a Jug.

You won't be disappointed, providing you have Sabotage on vinyl.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Do any of your parents like Sabbath? My mom went to 3 Sabbath concerts, so whenever people are talking about moms(for some odd reason) I get to bragg... Just felt like sharing that useless piece of info.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Hey, where can I get more Vinyl's?

So far I have these Sabbath albums: Mob Rules, Master of Reality, Heaven and Hell, We Sold Our Soul For Rock 'N' Roll.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Do any of your parents like Sabbath? My mom went to 3 Sabbath concerts, so whenever people are talking about moms(for some odd reason) I get to bragg... Just felt like sharing that useless piece of info.
That's where I got almost all of my Sabbath albums from.

[Brew]

Look out for second hand music shops, they normally stock cheap and good quality vinyl.

And my dad got me into Sabbath, both my parents went to see them on the Never Say Die! tour and my mum bought Blizzard of Ozz on vinyl, which I now have.

Both my olds are into rock, my dad's seen loads of bands like Judas Priest, The Scorpions, Metallica w/Cliff Burton, Iron Maiden when they were first starting out - supporting Samson (Bruce's band before Maiden), Ozzy w/Randy Rhoads, AC/DC, Thin Lizzy etc...he went to quite alot of the old Monsters of Rock festivals.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Sweet. Anyways whats the setlist for "We sold our souls for rock'n roll"?

[ToRidTheDisease]

Sweet. Anyways whats the setlist for "We sold our souls for rock'n roll"?

Record 1

Side 1

Black Sabbath
The Wizard
Warning

Side 2

Paranoid
War Pigs
Iron Man

Record 2

Side 3

Tomorrow's Dream
Fairies Wear Boots
Changes
Sweet Leaf
Children of The Grave

Side 4

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Am I Going Insane
Laguna Sunrise
Snowblind
N.I.B.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Record 1

Side 1

Black Sabbath
The Wizard
Warning

Side 2

Paranoid
War Pigs
Iron Man

Record 2

Side 3

Tomorrow's Dream
Fairies Wear Boots
Changes
Sweet Leaf
Children of The Grave

Side 4

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Am I Going Insane
Laguna Sunrise
Snowblind
N.I.B.

Sounds pretty nice. I'll have to pick that up one of these days.

[Brew]

We Sold our Soul...is basicly a compilation of the first 5 albums, songs that I remember being on there are:

Black Sabbath
The Wizard
N.I.B
Sleeping Village/The Warning
Paranoid
Iron Man
Fairies Wear Boots
Laguna Sunrise
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Children of the Grave
Snowblind
Sweet Leaf
War Pigs
Changes
Am I Going Insane (Radio)

Poopers, I was beaten to it.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

So it's like greatest hits?

[ToRidTheDisease]

So it's like greatest hits?
Basically.

[Brew]

Also, the (Radio) on the end of Am I Going Insane doesn't mean its the radio-edit, there was only ever one version of the song. I'm not 100% sure why they put (radio) at the end of it.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Maybe it's just the title of the song? Sometimes bands do things like that, doesn't make much sense though.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea i saw that and it's not edited or shortened and it's the same everywhere

i got this shop at Katy Mills which sells good vinyl

[sabbathfan37]

/me adds more details.

Geezer got given a book all about Witchcraft, Black Magic etc...and he kept it locked away in a cupboard. One night he saw the black figure at the end of his bed, got scared almost to the point of pooping himself (ok, maybe I made that bit up), and then got rid of everything to do with Satan in his room. When he checked to see if the book was still in its cupboard the next morning, it had vanished.

Not long afte, he wrote the lyric ''What is this, that stands before me. Figure in black, which points at me'', which was related to his experience.

And on the topic of film/song/band name, the song Black Sabbath came first, they named the band after the song. I believe the song was named after the film Black Sabbath.


wow. nice addition. i didnt know that the song came first. nor did I know about the book that vanished. very nice.

[ToRidTheDisease]

What is everyone's favorite Sabbath riff?

Mine is Electric Funeral.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

N.I.B. has a pretty sweet riff.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I just perfected the intro of N.I.B., kick *** song.

[shadow_stalker]

sympton of the universe, iron man or selling my soul

[bastardsloth]

IMO one of black sabbaths song, and one of the most relaxing songs ever, is planet caravan. I could just get stoned and listen to that for days.

[^METAL^MANIAC^666^]

I learnt the main riffs to ironman and paranoid. all sabbath kickz arse. Love the harmonica in the wizard. Just bought The essentail ozzy cd been kranking the ****

[TerryThorne]

Geezers lyrics have to be some of the greatest of all time. Especially in songs like War Pigs and Electric Funeral

[Brew]

IMO one of black sabbaths song, and one of the most relaxing songs ever, is planet caravan. I could just get stoned and listen to that for days.

I've gotten stoned listening to that song :)

Check out the songs Fluff and Laguna Sunrise, they're both pretty relaxing instrumentals.

And my fav. riff?

Er...hmm...

In no order:


Neon Knights
Air Dance
Supernaut
Iron Man
Wheels of Confusion
War Pigs

[sabbathfan37]

What is everyone's favorite Sabbath riff?

Mine is Electric Funeral.

hard one. I'd go with supernaut or into the void. after forever is good too.
O.K. enough 'favorites' questions!-

Any black sabbath songs that arent that good?

[Brew]

Classic Rock magazine say to stay away from the Born Again album, but from what I've heard its not so bad.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

What Sabbath song do you guys think has the best solo?

[Brew]

The Warning.
N.I.B
Computer God
Die Young

There's probably more, but my brain is asleep.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

The Warning.
N.I.B
Computer God
Die Young

There's probably more, but my brain is asleep.

You seem like a pretty hardcore Sabbath fan, I have yet to hear some of the songs you've mentioned in this thread.

[Brew]

You seem like a pretty hardcore Sabbath fan, I have yet to hear some of the songs you've mentioned in this thread.

Hehe.

They're my fav. band, I'm going to get all the albums one day, so far I've got from Black Sabbath to Live Evil.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I just realized something awesome, on the song paranoid on the we sold our souls for rock n roll, if you play the last part backwards, it sounds like it says: ozzy is a dead man.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I got to check that out some time.

[the_zeppelin_volta]

sabbath is kick ***
actually
that reminds me i'm starting an experimental project, just me and a guy who's a drum genious, we're doing anything but ordinary ****
i mena my influences are all classic and garage rock, and garaqge rock revival...
and he's really into the doors and some prog and eird folk music around here and india , he's crazy

[heinrichkuhn]

What is everyone's favorite Sabbath riff?

Mine is Electric Funeral.

Killing Yourself To Live.

[heinrichkuhn]

I just realized something awesome, on the song paranoid on the we sold our souls for rock n roll, if you play the last part backwards, it sounds like it says: ozzy is a dead man.

Lol, Stairway To Heaven backwards is equally as legible. "Satan in his toolshed"

[TomJoad]

*sigh*

[Brew]

^I'll think about giving out rep.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I'm going to the Flea Market tomorrow to look for some Sabbath records, any suggestions?

[TerryThorne]

what do you have already?

[Brew]

Sabotage
Heaven and Hell
Vol.4
Headless Cross
Dehumaniser
The Eternal Idol
Never Say Die!

Those albums are all good.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Thanks Lord, any suggestions on other bands?

[Brew]

Alice Cooper
Pink Floyd
Led Zep
Helloween
Iron Maiden

Anything by those bands on vinyl should be worth something later on in life.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I have most of Pink Floyd's and Led Zeppelin's, I really want some Maiden though. Also, i've been looking around for the Misfit's Vinyl releases, they are pretty hard to find.

[shadow_stalker]

i heared t.v. crimes on scuzz last night and i was wondering what album it is off

also is it dio?

[Brew]

^T.V Crimes is off the Dehumaniser album with Dio on vocals.

I have quite a bit of Misfits vinyl:

BEWARE Ep(on pink vinyl)
American Psycho
Project: 1950(on Purple vinyl)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Awesome man, Misfits kick ***, where did you get them?

[Brew]

Second hand cd shop that is now closed forever.

I just remembered I have Collection II on vinyl aswell :)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Lucky :thumb: haha. I'm going to the place tomorrow with $200, so I hope I can get some good stuff.

[Brew]

Sweeet.

[ToRidTheDisease]

What's happening to this thread? It was full of good discussion then it kinda died. Come on people, let's get something going.

[TerryThorne]

Sabbath needs a new album

[^METAL^MANIAC^666^]

I heard rumours in one if me guitar bands, they were talkin to Iommi and he said something about a new album

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

That would be sweet, a new album. Sabbath and Ozzy hooked up and played at Ozzfest I believe. So maybe they like playing together again, hopefully :chug: I'd go to one of their concerts in a second :thumb:

[CamelCaps]

Sabbath are possibly the most creative influence in metal or rock ever, but they do need a new album. only one problem- vocalist.

Im not entirely sure of the situation between Iommi and Ozzy, and Iommi and Dio, but the reason Ozzy left, and Dio left twice seems to be because of clashes with Iommi

However, well worth listening to is Live Evil, which possibly reflects Sabbath more than any studio album ever could.

I also think that post-Ozzy Sabbath is not such a bad thing, and Dio is, afterall, another mammoth in Metal music.

And, lots of people may hate me for this, but he has a better voice than ozzy, but ozzy is....... OZZY, which is something Dio will never have

Best Sabbath song: Children of the Sea
Best Sabbath album: Black Sabbath
Best Ozzy song: Running out of time
Best Ozzy album: down to earth
Best Dio song: Sunset Superman
Best Dio album: Killing the Dragon

happy posting :thumb:

[ToRidTheDisease]

Well I went to the flea market today for some records, and I came back with a sword. :lol: They didn't have any records other than extremely old ones.

[CamelCaps]

Well I went to the flea market today for some records, and I came back with a sword. :lol: They didn't have any records other than extremely old ones.

thats unlucky

[ToRidTheDisease]

thats unlucky
Yeah, but hopefully my dad will take me to the big flea market where they have tons of classic rock records.

[Brew]

On the subject of a new Sabbath album, they recorded a few tracks for it back in 1999, but then Ozzy got pressured into releasing Down to Earth, and the band went their seperate ways again.

Now that they're back together, I think they want to try and get a new album done, but I'm not sure if it will happen.


Dio has said that he would like to work with Iommi again, but not Geezer and Bill.

[ToRidTheDisease]

On the subject of a new Sabbath album, they recorded a few tracks for it back in 1999, but then Ozzy got pressured into releasing Down to Earth, and the band went their seperate ways again.

Now that they're back together, I think they want to try and get a new album done, but I'm not sure if it will happen.


Dio has said that he would like to work with Iommi again, but not Geezer and Bill.
I'm really hoping that they will do some stuff with Ozzy, but if not, it will still be awesome with Dio.

[Brew]

They'll probably do one more album with Ozzy, I know he's going to do another solo album.

It'd be cool for another album with Dio to be released, they could bring back Vinny on drums and find a bass player.

[LoveBuzzed]

Best Ozzy album is Down To Earth?! You've got to be kidding me!

[Brew]

Meh, lets not discuss Ozzy in here.

Please? :)


New Question: What is the best opening song of a Black Sabbath album? Apart from Black Sabbath and War Pigs :thumb:

[LoveBuzzed]

Oh, sorry about the Ozzy post, I just can't believe that that guy thinks Down To Earth is Ozzy's best album. Anyways, sorry to get things off track, continue. :)

[Brew]

^Don't worry about it :thumb:

[Brooksyd2]

Wheels Of Confusion from Vol 4!

[Brew]

^Good choice :thumb:

I quite like Neon Knights from Heaven and Hell, its a good fast opener and it shows that Sabbath can still make good music without Ozzy.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Sweat Leaf - Master of Reality.

[Brew]

Who can beat Tony's cough for the start of an album.

Answer: not many people.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I was just thinking of something. In the beginning of Iron Man, when Ozzy goes "I am Irrrrooonnnn Maaan" is that his real voice or some kind of effect? (trying to start more convo)

[Brew]

My guess is an effect.

I have no idea what effect it would be though.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

My guess is an effect.

I have no idea what effect it would be though.

I didn't know they had effects back then :confused:

[Brew]

They had really basic effects, how would Geezer have got the Wah on the intro to N.I.B if they didn't have them?

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

:confused:

[Brew]

The bass solo before N.I.B, Geezer uses a wah/distortion effect.

So they had the basics back then - wah, distortion etc...

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Ah got it now. I'm kind of out of it today.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Can we keep talking so I can get to my fvcking 700th post?

[Brew]

Sure.

Erm...

Has anyone seen the Rob Halford shows from 1992? He messes up the start of Children of the Grave by beginning to sing too early, its pretty funny.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Sure.

Erm...

Has anyone seen the Rob Halford shows from 1992? He messes up the start of Children of the Grave by beginning to sing too early, its pretty funny.
Nope, but i'll see if I can download it somewhere.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

No I

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Have not

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I will try to see it

[ToRidTheDisease]

What's with the triple post?

[Brew]

He's trying to get his 700th post.

Dude, just go to Other Music and post in the Now Playing thread a few times, works wonders.

I got the bootleg of Halford off Winmx, its really crappy picture but the sound isn't too bad.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

700th post :chug:

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Ok back to the Sabbath talk now.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Any of you own Sabbath DVD's?

[Brew]

^Yes.

Story Vol.1
Last Supper
Never Say Die

All of them are great, The Last Supper is probably my favourite.

Dirty Women :naughty:

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

A week ago I almost bought a Sabbath dvd, but got an Iron Maiden one instead.

[shadow_stalker]

the only sabbath dvds i have are

story of... vol 1

and

last super

[Brew]

A week ago I almost bought a Sabbath dvd, but got an Iron Maiden one instead.

:eek:

Blasphemy!(sp?)

Which Maiden dvd was it? I'm looking into buying the new one soon, The Early Years or something along those lines.

[CamelCaps]

No Sabs DVDs here, but if i wasnt a poor impoverished student.....

(Dont mean to bang on about Ozzy, but buzzard, the reason why i said D2E is the best is that its because it is the only one i have apart from Speak of the Devil, just to clear that up)

:thumb:

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

:eek:

Blasphemy!(sp?)

Which Maiden dvd was it? I'm looking into buying the new one soon, The Early Years or something along those lines.

I got "Raising Hell". It's Bruce Dickinson's last tour when he left in '93. Kind of cheesy concert with the "Raising Hell" part, but fvcking awesome. I'm going to get "Rock in Rio" soon hopefully.

[Brew]

Rock in Rio is pretty good, I've seen it once or twice.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Yeah I have a little part of the concert on my computer, it kicks a$$.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

What Sabbath dvd do you reccomend?

[Brew]

The Last Supper.

Not only do you get an entire concert, but between songs there is interview segments with good bits of band history and funny stuff in general.

Well worth buying.

[black_sabbath634]

DO NOT GET the never say die one, ****ty sound quality, so the only other option is last supper, good concerts, not to many special features, but **** it.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Alright I'll put Last Supper on ma' Christmas list :smoke:

[black_sabbath634]

They had really basic effects, how would Geezer have got the Wah on the intro to N.I.B if they didn't have them?
i read that he had the wah on by mistake, and he couldnt re do it, i think he just used a guitar one

[Brew]

Never Say Die wasn't so bad, I got it as a present so its all good.

Its a good watch though to see Sabbath in their prime...well...late prime with Ozzy.

[Brew]

i read that he had the wah on by mistake, and he couldnt re do it, i think he just used a guitar one

I know that his amps were screwed when they made the album which gave him the distorted sound.

But a wah is definatley used on N.I.B for the bass.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

What's Sabbath's drummer name? He rarely gets mentioned anywhere it seems to me.

/watching War Pigs

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

Woa, I was just messing around on my guitar and I just made a song that sounds like a Sabbath song. I got to get the riffs down before they leave my mind.

[black_sabbath634]

sabbaths drummer is bill ward, at least in the ozzy era, i dont know the others

[TerryThorne]

What's Sabbath's drummer name? He rarely gets mentioned anywhere it seems to me.

/watching War Pigs


bill ward

[TerryThorne]

Woa, I was just messing around on my guitar and I just made a song that sounds like a Sabbath song. I got to get the riffs down before they leave my mind.


yeah happens all the time. Their riffs are like so natural

[ToRidTheDisease]

Whoa, a lot has happened in the day that i've been gone, I almost lost my comp for the rest of the month but I got it back, so back to the Sabbath talk.

[shadow_stalker]

The Last Supper.

Not only do you get an entire concert, but between songs there is interview segments with good bits of band history and funny stuff in general.

Well worth buying.


but it can be annoying when you are listening to a song with the volume right up and suddenly an interview jumps out, but almost all of them are piss funny (except for the story about tony's fingers)

[Brew]

So I finally found this thread on page 4 of R&M...

Anyways.

Sabbath's main drummer is Bill Ward, 2nd in command for drumming is Vinny Apiche(sp?), who went on to form Dio with Ronnie James Dio when they left the band after releasing Live Evil.

Cozey Powell drummed for Sabbath during the mid/late 80's, and Ozzy's drummer Mike Bordin drummed for them at Ozzfest 1997.

On the reunion tour in 1998/1999, they had Vinny's kit set up behind Bills just incase Bill couldn't hande touring due to having a heart attack not long before the tour started.


I'll shut up now :)

[Brew]

but it can be annoying when you are listening to a song with the volume right up and suddenly an interview jumps out, but almost all of them are piss funny (except for the story about tony's fingers)

True, but all the interviews are great fun, especially ''What was Ozzy-zig needs a gig?''*insert brummie accent here*

:lol:


And Dirty Women deserves a :naughty:

[shadow_stalker]

my favourtie story is about bill's heart attack, when geezer sent him that card

im gonna do that to someone

[Brew]

Wasn't it ''Congratulations on your new baby''?

[shadow_stalker]

yeah, its not that nice when you think about it

[Brew]

True, but they've known each other for decades so he could get away with it.

[shadow_stalker]

i suppose, but im still going to do it to one of my friends

[shadow_stalker]

i was well pissed off at HMV last saturday, they only had sabbath albums that i already have

what are the chances!?!?!?

[Brew]

Virgin normally stock the non-Ozzy Sabbath albums.

[ToRidTheDisease]

So I finally found this thread on page 4 of R&M...

Anyways.

Sabbath's main drummer is Bill Ward, 2nd in command for drumming is Vinny Apiche(sp?), who went on to form Dio with Ronnie James Dio when they left the band after releasing Live Evil.

Cozey Powell drummed for Sabbath during the mid/late 80's, and Ozzy's drummer Mike Bordin drummed for them at Ozzfest 1997.

On the reunion tour in 1998/1999, they had Vinny's kit set up behind Bills just incase Bill couldn't hande touring due to having a heart attack not long before the tour started.


I'll shut up now :)
Your' new name is the Sabbath dictionary. :thumb: :lol:

[shadow_stalker]

i hate virgin st anger cost £25.99 there!!!

[Brew]

Your' new name is the Sabbath dictionary. :thumb: :lol:

Yay, I feel special.

:cool:

:nerd:++

[Brew]

i hate virgin st anger cost £25.99 there!!!

I got St.Crap for about £15.

[ToRidTheDisease]

Got it for $10, and sold it to my friend for $12......yes i'm mean haha.

[shadow_stalker]

Yay, I feel special.

:cool:

:nerd:++


special in a good way?

[shadow_stalker]

it was in music zone for £5.97

[Withoutthought]

The wizard and N.I.B I most say are the best songs.

[Withoutthought]

must* spelled it wrong i am dumb.

[ToRidTheDisease]

must* spelled it wrong i am dumb.
Just edit it next time. :thumb:

[Brew]

special in a good way?

Erm...maybe.

[JACKROXYOU]

God we're talkin about N.I.B again. we finished that in like page 5. but w/e.

it rocks its all good

[Brew]

'tis about the devil falling in love with a mortal woman.

And they named it after Bill Wards pen-nib like beard.

And they didn't intend for it to be dubbed Nativity in Black.

facts++

[TerryThorne]

what is a pen-nib?

[shadow_stalker]

i think its the bit of a pen that you use to write with

someone (on these) forums posted in a thread about songs that relate to your life that NIB is the song that most relates to his life, i was pissing myself laughing at that

[Josh]

what is a pen-nib?
no offence but ur pretty dumb if u dont know what a pen-nib is

[Lord Abortion]

yeah ,sorry man, but that's not hard to know

[Brew]

Its the back end of a pencil, sometimes has a rubber/eraser attached to it.

If you see any early photos of Bill his beard looks a bit like one, and on the Never Say Die DVD he has a beard like it again.

[shadow_stalker]

if you watch the video for sabbath bloody sabbath bill looks like he is like 20 years older than everyone else

[Brew]

:lol:

That video is great

Whereas

The video for No Stranger to Love, is rather crap-tastic.

[shadow_stalker]

yeah that always used to be on scuzz, the song is really bad aswell so its only appropriate that it has a bad video

[Brew]

True.

In one video, I can't remember what song it was for, Sabbath didn't have a bass player.

So they got some random bass-playing dude off the street for the video, then gave him an audition for the band. Apparently he sucked so much they had to get rid of him quickly.

And for the Star Trek fans (like me), the woman who played Tasha Yar in is in the video for No Stranger to Love.

[shadow_stalker]

T.V crimes has an odd video

i bet that bass player got really excited about being in a sabbath video

[Brew]

Yeh, I bet he's like: ''Yeh, I was in a Black Sabbath video back in the 80's :cool:''

And I'm yet to see the T.V Crimes video.

[shadow_stalker]

he probably goes around saying that he was in black sabbath

its an odd video, with a retarded shop keeper