Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

[White_heat]

Whats wrong with Gillans voice?
I think that it doesn't match with sabbath, and Born again wasn't to good because of it.

But he is awsome with Deep Purple

[RustedPieces]

How is Iommi's solo stuff? Any good?

[rippa32]

Well Iv only heard samples of the Iommi album which is alright but nothing compared to sabbath and it sounds completely different too, his new one with Glenn Hughes should be good though.

[rippa32]

Hey I found Seventh Star on vinyl for A$20 on ebay. Do ya reckon it would be worth it?

[Brew]

^It might be worth it. I'm not too sure.

[Josh]

Hey does anyone know if Black Sabbath will play at Live 8 like they did with Live Aid?
that would be pretty cool...

[rippa32]

It would, although they would only play Paranoid and Iron Man.

[shadow_stalker]

Maybe play war pigs.

[shadow_stalker]

Former Black Sabbath bassist Neil Murray will be having surgery next
month for carpal tunnel syndrome. Tony Iommi had the same thing some
years ago, had the operation, and came through it fine - so here's to
hoping all goes well for Mr. Murray.

Here's something Neil wrote himself about the situation:

M3 bassist Neil Murray (ex-WHITESNAKE, BLACK SABBATH) will be out of
action during July as he has to have an operation on his left wrist
for Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, which affects the movement in his
fingers. He will be temporarily replaced for M3's festival
appearance at Open Air Hamburg Harley Days Festival on July 16 by
David Levy, who has worked with M3 guitarists Bernie Marsden and
Micky Moody (both ex-WHITESNAKE) many times before. Neil should be
back playing in the QUEEN musical "We Will Rock You" by the
beginning of August and will return for the M3 "classic WHITESNAKE"
gigs in Bildein (Austria) and Heidenheim (Germany) on August 26 and
August 27, respectively.

Never really knew any of the guys work, but get well soon all the same.

[rippa32]

He played on the TYR album and Forbidden I think. You have TYR dont you? Speaking of TYR does anyone know how to pronounce it?

[Brew]

Tee-err.

Think ''Tor'', but with two E's in the middle.

I just say T Y R.

I'm back at school on Monday, I want to know which songs you guys want to cover for the comp, I'm open to anything I really don't mind. I'll program the drums on Cubase.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I just say it as T Y R also.

[shadow_stalker]

I have TYR but dont like it so i dont listen to it much.

[Brew]

Its probably the best Martin-era MkI album.

[rippa32]

I was thinking yuo could cover TV Crimes. That has one awesome riff and the bass is some of the best ive heard out of Geezer.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I would like to see Solitude done. I just personally think it's an awesome song.

In other news, I have defeated Andy in the battle of the amps. I remember when he posted a while back and said his amp went to 12, well I noticed mine goes to 15. Spinal Tap'd.

[White_heat]

Its probably the best Martin-era MkI album.
Really? Someone told me it was really bad, the only Martin album I have is Headless Cross

[shadow_stalker]

Its probably the best Martin-era MkI album.

I think its pretty **** terrible, headless cross owns it in everyway (in my god-like opinion)

[shadow_stalker]

I would like to see Solitude done. I just personally think it's an awesome song.

In other news, I have defeated Andy in the battle of the amps. I remember when he posted a while back and said his amp went to 12, well I noticed mine goes to 15. Spinal Tap'd.

How many songs you guys actually doing?

Also i don't believe you have an amp that goes to 15.

[Brew]

Josh - :cool:

stalker - you fayle at being a god and its Over the Mountain.

white heat - TYR is my personal fav. from the MkI Martin era, Headless Cross was a bit cheesy in some places whereas TYR is brilliance right through. Kinda power-metal-ish aswell, which is what I like.

//

Can any of you guys sing?

[Ghoul Hunter]

How many songs you guys actually doing?

Also i don't believe you have an amp that goes to 15.
I'll take a picture later.

[shadow_stalker]

stalker - you fayle at being a god and its Over the Mountain.

So it is...

Where you trying to say Fayle or did you want to say fail?

[rippa32]

I really like the TYR album even feels good to me, although it shouldnt be on that album because it doesnt fit in with the theme.

[Brew]

Feels Good To Me has a crap video.

shadow - Your question makes no sense, did you mean to type ''Where'' or were you trying to type ''Were''.

[shadow_stalker]

shadow - Your question makes no sense, did you mean to type ''Where'' or were you trying to type ''Were''.

I was supposed to say were, but i typed where :upset:


I know this is not sabath related but i got ultimate sin by ozzy today and it was a bit of a let down.

[rippa32]

Well I got Ozzmosis, it was alright but most of it is just slow songs. Like the one he did about his son. Although Perry Mason, Thunder Underground and My Jekyll Doesn't Hide is quite good.

[White_heat]

I just got Never Say Die today, and I must say, it is very underrated. It is one of my favorites (of the ozzy era)

[rippa32]

Yeah brum likes that one. I would get it but all music shops I live near only sell paranoid and thats if im lucky.

[White_heat]

Yeah, I get most of my Sabbath stuff from Amazon.com

[rippa32]

So would I except I live in Australia and I dont like to ship stuff from overseas.

[White_heat]

That sux

O well, thats what downloading is for

[rippa32]

I dont like to Pirate. I only ever get CD's burnt or download songs to get into a band.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I really hate people who pirate a lot of music.

/has gigs of downloaded music

[rippa32]

lol. Well your just going to have to buy it all now arnt you?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Of course I will.

<_<

>_>

[rippa32]

lol. I was just listening to dehuminizer today after a while of not listening to it. Quality album if you dont have it already.

[Brew]

I've never downloaded a full album.

Never want to either.

Never Say Die! is a great album :)

The reasoning behind why Ozzmosis is mainly slow songs is because Ozzy was ''fed-up of being the fanged freak'' and he wanted to write+sing songs that were coming straight from his heart etc...Aimee is a beautiful song.

[rippa32]

Yes I realise the reason and im not bashing the album. I absolutley love I Just Want You. The melody to that one is great and its interesting hearing him sing in his normal voice rather than the usual "singing" voice. I also quite like My Little Man.

[Brew]

I Just Want You is a real tear-jerker.

I'm making my decision for our covers by the end of tonight, if anyone wants to suggest a song please do so now, we also need someone to sing.

NP: Bill Ward - Straws

[White_heat]

Does it have to be Sabbath? How bout some Dio or Rainbow?

[Brew]

Each Official thread is doing covers specific to that threads band, for us its Black Sabbath.

Idealy I'd like us to do as many different songs as possible, not just the Ozzy years.

[White_heat]

It would be cool if you do "Neon Knights"

thats a cool song right there

[Brew]

Great song.

By any chance would you be able to sing...? We've got bass, guitar and drums...

[White_heat]

sorry man I play guitar, like 75 % of the MX population

[Ghoul Hunter]

Yes I realise the reason and im not bashing the album. I absolutley love I Just Want You. The melody to that one is great and its interesting hearing him sing in his normal voice rather than the usual "singing" voice. I also quite like My Little Man.
Oh man, I read that as "i absolutely love and want you". :lol:

Anyway, Andy, what are some songs that are availible/you would like to do?

[Brew]

Seeing as we have until August 1st to get this done I'm thinking about 6 songs...

NIB
Heaven and Hell
TV Crimes
Iron Man
Sabbra Cadabra
The Warning (only a small chunk of it)
Planet Caravan

The reason behind missing the Martin years is its pretty hard to find bass tabs for that part of Sabbaths history...I want to have the definate song list decided by Wednesday.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I couldn't suggest a better lineup than that. By the way, I can host all of the songs when they are done, if you need me to.

[Brew]

Cool, I'm going to get them all mixed up at school etc...over the next few weeks, I've got a whole load more free lessons due to dropping Physics so I can spend them doing the drum tracks...

[rippa32]

Ahh dropping physics, you must be smarter than the people who are good at it.

[shadow_stalker]

Umm wasnt there another page to this thread last night?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Yeah, the server switch deleted a lot of yesterdays posts.

[shadow_stalker]

Wow this place has got a bit ****ed up

All the banned users post counts have been wiped :lol:

[Brew]

Ahh dropping physics, you must be smarter than the people who are good at it.

Eh...I've failed the course...

Josh - your avatar has gone into hyper speed...

[Josh]

i lost 9 posts that i made yesterday...and theres still only 12 pages of R&M threads...

i can sing, but i'm not exactly great, and have no way of recording...

[Aeaon]

I dont like to Pirate. I only ever get CD's burnt or download songs to get into a band.



That's basically the reason why most people download.



And it's not pirating. Just because it's considered that doesn't mean it is.

[rippa32]

Pirating means illegal copying. Which is what downloading is, getting an illegal copy.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Eh...I've failed the course...

Josh - your avatar has gone into hyper speed...
Hmm?

[rippa32]

Hey shadow_stalker, this might sound kinda dumb but whos in your avatar?

[Brew]

Hmm?

Its faster than what it used to be...like the dude's on speed or something.

On my copy of Live Evil it has ''Attention: Home Taping is killing music! Don't do it!''

:lol:

[Kronos]

Its faster than what it used to be...like the dude's on speed or something.

On my copy of Live Evil it has ''Attention: Home Taping is killing music! Don't do it!''

:lol:

Hi Brumm, you've got your old avatar back again; didn't you like the other one?
And what does Bob'd mean?
If anything - just curious

[Ghoul Hunter]

Hi Brumm, you've got your old avatar back again; didn't you like the other one?
And what does Bob'd mean?
If anything - just curious
Bob = Legend

Its faster than what it used to be...like the dude's on speed or something.

On my copy of Live Evil it has ''Attention: Home Taping is killing music! Don't do it!''

:lol:
:lol:

I don't think the Burning Man has changed. but hell, who knows. :p

[Brew]

Hi Brumm, you've got your old avatar back again; didn't you like the other one?
And what does Bob'd mean?
If anything - just curious

I hadn't really posted in my Final Fantasy thread for awhile so I changed back to Bob.

I've got no idea what Bob'd means :)

[Kronos]

I hadn't really posted in my Final Fantasy thread for awhile so I changed back to Bob.

I've got no idea what Bob'd means :)

Cool. I was annoyed to hear thet Download wae on the telly last weekend and I missed it. :angry: Serves me right for watching next to bugger-all TV.
Are you going to see Nightwish at the Apollo?

[Brew]

Hehe, the highlights weren't amazing.

I can't go see Nightwish :( I hear they're already confirmed for Download next year though.

[Kronos]

Hehe, the highlights weren't amazing.

I can't go see Nightwish :( I hear they're already confirmed for Download next year though.

I managed to get 5 tickets (after a right hoo-ha). Missed them at the Astoria in Feb (had to listen to a highly distorted version coming over my brother's mobile) so I'm all excited. Pity you ain't going; we might have been able to meet up. Actually - have you ever met anyone from the forum that you didn't know beforehand? - were they a disappointment? That's the worry I suppose.

[Brew]

I was s'posed to meet a few people at Download but that failed...next year a group of us are meeting up for drinks and what not.

Where abouts in the country are you?

[Kronos]

I was s'posed to meet a few people at Download but that failed...next year a group of us are meeting up for drinks and what not.

Where abouts in the country are you?


10 miles west of Ipswich. I think that's quite a ways from yourself!

[Brew]

/doesn't know where Ipswich is

/is doing A2 Geography

I have a feeling its somewhere far though.

Come to Download next year, you could be the er...''responsible adult'' for the lot of us.

[TheShaneOMac]

I got my Ozzfest tickets today. I cannot wait until I get to finally see Black Sabbath.

[Kronos]

/doesn't know where Ipswich is

/is doing A2 Geography

I have a feeling its somewhere far though.

Come to Download next year, you could be the er...''responsible adult'' for the lot of us.

Ipswich is the county town of Suffolk. If you're near Bristol it's diametrically opposed to where you are. Lowestoft in Suffolk is the most Easterly point of Britain. Would like to do Download next time - don't rely on responsibility from me though, you may have to stop me doing ill-advised things!
There may be a gig that we both end up going to before that - you never know. If you find yourself in East Anglia let me know.

[Brew]

Shall do.

I may be off to London to see Lacuna Coil sometime soon, not too sure though.

shaneomac - Nice one :cool:

[White_heat]

I got my Ozzfest tickets today. I cannot wait until I get to finally see Black Sabbath.
I would go there, but I don't think I like any of the other bands

(Sabbath is the heaviest band I listen too, unless you consider Maiden heavier)

[TerryThorne]

Just a quick question, does anyone happen to know what Geezer's rig was during the Black Sabbath/ Paranoid era?

[shadow_stalker]

Hey shadow_stalker, this might sound kinda dumb but whos in your avatar?

Alexi Laiho

[rippa32]

Ok. This is gonna sound worse. Whos Alexi Laiho?

[shadow_stalker]

*twitch twitch*

He is the singer and lead guitarist for children of bodom...

[rippa32]

Hey its not like I hadnt heard of him. I just didnt know who he is. Im not a children of bodom fan. Name a song to download and ill have a look though.

[shadow_stalker]

Needled 24/7 is my favourite.

[rippa32]

Okay ill get that when i get round to it. What kind of music is it, Rock or Metal?

[Shotgun 1]

Yeah, Sabbath rule !
I love the old old stuff like Paranoid, War Pigs, Tomorrow's Dream, Iron Man, Sweet Leaf, NIB, Never Say Die etc etc. I also enjoy the Dio era, with Heaven And Hell probably being my favorite Sabbath album.

Haven't heard much at all over the past 2 decades or so though. Maybe a little bit of stuff from when Eric Singer was on drums, but not much else.
:cool:

[White_heat]

Okay ill get that when i get round to it. What kind of music is it, Rock or Metal?
Can't you see the pointy headstock on the guitar?

Im guessing its metal, Ive never heard it though

[Brew]

Its boarderline power metal.

Nothing special though.

[Josh]

Hey its not like I hadnt heard of him. I just didnt know who he is. Im not a children of bodom fan. Name a song to download and ill have a look though.
Hate Me! is probably my favourite. hold on a bit and i'll upload it.

ok...here (http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3HVR5ROGV8RVX3PJQO4OKHW7A6) it is.

anyone know if sabbath will record another album with ozzy now?

[Jimi Haze]

So.... anyone looking forward to the Live DVD from Download :D

[Josh]

i didnt know there was going to be a DVD... just of Sabbath? if it is, i'll get it, or the CD if both are released.

[Brew]

Chances of a new cd are slim, Geezer isn't really interested at the moment.

A DVD of the show from Download would be alright I s'pose.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I almost went into fanboy mode with Bodom. I had a huge post ready with info about them/songs to download. Then I realized that all that guys questions were answered. :lol:

Anyway, i'd definitely like a live Sabbath DVD.

[White_heat]

Last supper is preety good, the never say die one has faulty quality

[rippa32]

But isnt Last Supper the one with the interviews in the middle of songs?

[rippa32]

Hey sack-man thanks for the download. I really like it, except for the vocals.

[White_heat]

But isnt Last Supper the one with the interviews in the middle of songs?
yeah that sucks

[rippa32]

Is it still worth buying though?

[shadow_stalker]

So.... anyone looking forward to the Live DVD from Download :D

I've got reunion so there isnt much point in getting the download dvd...

[shadow_stalker]

Is it still worth buying though?

Yeah the interviews are funny, you know what the songs are like anyway so it wont be too bad of a loss to miss some of the songs.

[rippa32]

Does he do any extended solos in that DVD like Wicked World on Past Lives?

[Brew]

Nope, the band haven't done a decent mid-song jam since around 1982.

[rippa32]

Is that on Live Evil?

[Brew]

Yeh, during Heaven and Hell they kinda break off into a little jam thing with Dio singing some nice vocals.

You guys seen that When Will Ozzy Die thread?

It makes me go :(

[rippa32]

Yes ive put my comments in too, I always thought only the n00bs were that close minded and you cant say anything theyll just ignore you.

[shadow_stalker]

As much as i love ozzy alot of people in that thread need a slap!

[Brew]

The whole thread needs a big brick thrown at its face.

Its a good arguement though which I think I'm very slowly winning...

[Kronos]

The whole thread needs a big brick thrown at its face.

Its a good arguement though which I think I'm very slowly winning...


Sounds interesting; I hadn't looked there since it had about 35 posts.

/goes to look

[shadow_stalker]

Its a good arguement though which I think I'm very slowly winning...

You might not be slowly winning if peoples arguments werent along the lines of 'dio is ****' and ending it there :lol:

[Kronos]

You might not be slowly winning if peoples arguments werent along the lines of 'dio is ****' and ending it there :lol:

Yeah, I've had a look and most of the arguments aren't very cogent.
"Ozzy's best 'cos his voice is so unique" seems to be about the best they've come up with so far. :lol:

[Ghoul Hunter]

That is a horrible thread.

I hope they realize that most singers are unique.

[shadow_stalker]

That is a horrible thread.

I hope they realize that most singers are unique.

Unfortunatly that probably won't happen :upset:

[Brew]

You might not be slowly winning if peoples arguments werent along the lines of 'dio is ****' and ending it there :lol:

I really hate people who argue like that.

I at least try to justify why I think something is crap.

[RustedPieces]

Well I guess it's all opinion and no matter how much you argue some people are just too stubborn to change their opinion and try something new.

[rippa32]

But still the Ozzy era is great and I dont actually have a favourite, there all good, i even enjoyed what Ive heard of Born Again and Seventh Star (although I dont consider Sevent h Star Sabbath just because Iommi didn't want it to be.)

[White_heat]

Ozzy era had some great albums, but it wasn't because of Ozzy, I guess thats what people don't get

[rippa32]

Yes you have a point there. Although his contributions was close to bugger all he was credited on every song just as the rest of the band was, so he must have done something.

[White_heat]

But one thing thats true is that some of iommis best stuff came in that era

[rippa32]

Yeah I guess but have you heard the solo for Zero the Hero? One of his best.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I heard some Iommi solo song yesterday. It was quite good.

[White_heat]

Yeah I guess but have you heard the solo for Zero the Hero? One of his best.
Isn't that with ozzy, i might be confusing it with something else


edit/ yeah i know which one you are saying now, i know it as the dark

[Brew]

The Dark/Zero the Hero.

The Dark is the weird instrumental bit at the start.

I heard a song from Iommi's new album, it sounded really good. Quite heavy aswell.

[White_heat]

Is that already out, or was it a leak?

[Brew]

Its on his website somewhere.

I think the actual album should be out by now...

[Ghoul Hunter]

Is it worth buying? If so, I may pick it up.

I'll probably get that and some Sonata Arctica.

[Brew]

http://www.iommi.com

There's now samples for all the songs off the album. I'll give them a listen later...and if you're after some Sonata...Winterheart's Guild is worth buying.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Alright, I don't have that one, so i'll look for it.

[Brew]

Happy Hunting.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I just listening to the Iommi tracks. I only like about 2 of the tracks :-\

[Brew]

I just gave most of the samples a listen...they all sound pretty good. I'll probably get the album when its released, I got Ohmwork (gzr) for £10 when it came out from Amazon so I'm hoping they do the same deal with Fused...

[rippa32]

I dont like the sound of GZR sounds too industrial for me. Which is a shame cause Geezer is my favourite bassist.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I've still yet to hear any GZR. I'll probably like it though. Geezer is one of my favorite bassists, right behind Stefan Fimmers.

[Brew]

The lack of solo's on Ohmwork was a little disappointing, but the album has grown on me a little more in recent weeks. I'm looking into getting his older albums aswell...

[rippa32]

I really liked that first sample on the site but I didnt like the rest.

[rippa32]

The new Iommi album sounds awesome though ( I had a listen to dopamine)


:smoke: :chug: :chug: 1000th Post!! :chug: :chug: :smoke:

[Brew]

:chug:

I'm nearly at 9000 I think...

[rippa32]

hey you are pretty close, how long have you been on these forums?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Congrats.

I was right at 8,000 when I was banned.

[Brew]

hey you are pretty close, how long have you been on these forums?

/me points at join date

[shadow_stalker]

I'll probably get that and some Sonata Arctica.

Get songs of silence it is aweomse...

Anyone listend to any of Bill Ward's solo stuff, i've only heard part of 1 song, didnt like it much.

[Brew]

I've got Straws and Children Killing Children by Bill.

It took me awhile to like them, his work is more lyrics-based than musical talent. His voice is pretty good aswell.

I just ripped Born Again and The Eternal Idol from vinyl to my comp, they're both alright albums, nothing too special though. If you completly forget about everything else Sabbath have done whilst listening to Born Again, its actually a pretty good album.

NP: Early Warning School (live, 1969)

[rippa32]

haha musta missed that join date. And as for Born Again I really want it but will probably get some deep purple first. And as for Bill didnt he sing with sabbath on a couple of songs?

[Brew]

Bill sung on Its Alright (Technical Ecstasy) and Swinging the Chain (Never Say Die!).

Geezer and Tony did back-ups on a few songs but I can't remember which ones at the moment.

[Brew]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Lord_Brummington/My%20room/DSCF0463.jpg

:)

[rippa32]

Nice Collection. Whats the one after Never Say Die? and why did you get Sold Our Souls?

[shadow_stalker]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Lord_Brummington/My%20room/DSCF0463.jpg

:)

Nice collection but there is an album missing :D

[Brew]

Nice Collection. Whats the one after Never Say Die? and why did you get Sold Our Souls?

After NSD! is the Greatest Hits album which I've only ever seen on cd once. Its basicly a bog standard collection of their best songs before TE was released.

All of those albums upto Heaven and Hell are my Dad's, from Heaven and Hell onwards I've bought myself. My Dad was a pretty big Sabbath fan which probably explains why he got Sold Souls...the inside of the gatefold is a good picture though.

stalker - I have paranoid on cd. I nearly bought it on vinyl once but decided not to. My Dad used to have it on cassette 'til I lent it to my friend then never saw it again, not that I'm bothered though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Lord_Brummington/My%20room/DSCF0461.jpg
Sabbath and a few Ozzy cd's.

[Josh]

i bought Paranoid on cd the other week...all the tracks on it except for Rat Salad and Hand of Doom are on the best of.

[rippa32]

I dont see whats wrong with the Paranoid ALBUM, sure War Pigs and Paranoid get old (and Iron Man does too kinda) but the rest are great. Electric Funeral for one.

[TheShaneOMac]

i bought Paranoid on cd the other week...all the tracks on it except for Rat Salad and Hand of Doom are on the best of.

Hand Of Doom is actually my favorite song on that disc.

[rippa32]

Hand of Doom isnt a favourite of mine, I dunno why. But I do like Planet Caravan.

[Brew]

Planet Caravan and Hand of Doom are the only songs I tend not to skip from Paranoid, I kinda have to be in the right mood to hear songs from that album.

[White_heat]

Paranoid is great, except for the title track and rat salad. But I think its preety bad compared to others. And to whoever wanted Deep Purple, I have a bunch of their stuff, I could upload some.

[Josh]

its a good album, but yeh war pigs and paranoid do get a bit boring.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

Paranoid id say is wonderful, this comming from a man of over 30 Sabbath albums, the song Rat Salad inspired the name of the band Ratt which i thought was funny as it is a weaker Sabbath song. Hand of Doom and Electric Funeral are two of the most overlooked Sabbath gems ever written and showcase Ozzy's vocals for once on Hand of Doom. The hits are of course classics and are good for a listen every few months but i prefer the live versions of them all.

[Josh]

i don't have any live Sabbath, but Electric Funeral > most of the other songs on Paranoid, its so great. its also one of my favourite Sabbath songs.
/puts it on.

[Brew]

Sabbath in general were better live than in the studio, they always seemed to have more energy and power behind the songs.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

i don't have any live Sabbath, but Electric Funeral > most of the other songs on Paranoid, its so great. its also one of my favourite Sabbath songs.
/puts it on.

Pantera's cover of it was great, but i like how Bill does the live drums of it and Vinnie left out the snare chops on the interlude :( oh well! hehe

[ATM]

I can't wait to see them at Ozzfest.

[Zep2367]

^Same here seein them august 20th

[White_heat]

I've never seen Sabbath live outside of DVD's, but from what I've heard they can get kind of bland sometimes.

[shadow_stalker]

its a good album, but yeh war pigs and paranoid do get a bit boring.

The war pigs on ozzy's solo album 'the ozzman cometh' is way better than paranoids version.

I like all of the paranoid album, i have even grown to like rat salad (especially when they put it together with hand of doom on past lives)


Hmm i havnt listend to anything except sonata arctica and dragonforce for over 2 weeks...

[wake-up-call]

Black Sabbath are an amazing band. My fav song is Iron Man or Children of the Grave. :)

[rippa32]

Children of the Grave is something special, fantastic live, has much more energy and power to it. I love embryo to. Can someone tell me if embryo is played on guitar or violin? cause they seem to play it live.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Embryo = Amazing piece. It's on guitar. One of my favorite things to play.

[rippa32]

I had a glance at the tab, but never really tried it cause I thought it was trying to transcribe from violins, but I might learn it now. Does it use the pentatonic scale or some other scale?

[Ghoul Hunter]

Not sure truthfully.

[rippa32]

Oh well it sounds good Ill learn it. Another great song of thiers I enjoy playing is Sweet Leaf, its just alot of fun.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Just wondering, why were you wanting to know what scale it was?

[Brew]

The war pigs on ozzy's solo album 'the ozzman cometh' is way better than paranoids version.

I like all of the paranoid album, i have even grown to like rat salad (especially when they put it together with hand of doom on past lives)


Hmm i havnt listend to anything except sonata arctica and dragonforce for over 2 weeks...

I think that version of War Pigs is the original version of the song, also I believe the version of Black Sabbath on that cd is the one with the extra verse.

[shadow_stalker]

Not sure, i know there is an extra verse on the "lost" demos.

[Brew]

Yeh, its a good verse aswell.

[shadow_stalker]

I think they should ahve left it in.

Also forgot to say earlier but i think that war pigs on the stroy of vol 1 has better lyrics than studio 'pigs'

[Brew]

Its the same version as on the Ozzman Cometh.

''Warpurlgis'', I think.

[shadow_stalker]

I think the lyrics are slightly different, still good though.

Any news on this cover project?

[Hardrockguitardude15]

My favourite sabbath songs would have to be war pigs, fairies wear boots and iron man, and yes i have only heard PARANOID. But i never knew how much influence they had coz alot of more modern music sounds like theres. They are the original metal gods. Just got PARANOID today actually and it's great.

[Brew]

Kurt Cobain was a loser.

Welcome to the thread :wave:

[shadow_stalker]

That was a bit harsh.

[Brew]

True though, besides I'm in a bad mood :)

For the covers I'm not quite sure what's happening, no-one really seemed to care except me...

[White_heat]

I had a glance at the tab, but never really tried it cause I thought it was trying to transcribe from violins, but I might learn it now. Does it use the pentatonic scale or some other scale?
Im not sure, but it sounds kind of like Harmonic Minor or Natural Minor.

[shadow_stalker]

For the covers I'm not quite sure what's happening, no-one really seemed to care except me...

It's not fair i would love to do it, if only i could record.

*cries*

*sits in dark and writes emo song about it*...how would i write a song in the dark?

[Brew]

You'd have a candal that you'd slowly burn yourself with aswell.

[shadow_stalker]

You'd have a candal that you'd slowly burn yourself with aswell.

Hmm i do believe i have some candals downstairs...*ponders*

[Brew]

Haha.

Make sure its tr00 emo.

[shadow_stalker]

**** no candles, and there is supposed to be a storm tonight, if the power goes off i really will have to sit in the dark

[Brew]

Haha, excellent.

The weather is looking good for the party I'm going to tomorrow night, I've got myself a nice half bottle of Captain Morgan to drink :)

I might try and blast some Sabbath during the night.

[shadow_stalker]

Nice, don't get too drunk

i wish that Sabbath would be played more around where i live instead of that stupid ****ing crazyfrog ringtone/song

[Brew]

''Don't worry guys, I won't be getting too drunk tonight''

Some famous last words said by me a few times...

I'm hoping to take control of the music for around half an hour, most of the year 13's seem to be interested in my music taste so they shouldn't mind too much...

[shadow_stalker]

So basically your gonna get pissed off of your head?

[Brew]

Possibly, here's the plan for the night:

9.15pm - Head to the pub for a few pints
11pm - Wander over to the party, possibly smoking some weed if I can get any
11.15pm onwards - Rum drinking + having fun.

I've calmed the drunken side of my personality down a bit in recent months, so in theory it should be a fun night with minimal embarressment and studpity from me :)

[shadow_stalker]

1 hour and 45 mins at the pub? you could well be pissed by the time you get to the party!

If you drink rum you should talk like a pirate

[Brew]

I know I should be drunk by the time I get to the party, but lack of funds means buying many pints shall be difficult.

I'm already thinking of some fun pirate phrases to say to various people during the night.

[shadow_stalker]

Everyone loves pirates and if they don't then they should!

[rippa32]

Geeaaarhhhhhh!
And in the famous words of Guybrush Threepwood "I wanna be a pirate"

[Ghoul Hunter]

Possibly, here's the plan for the night:

9.15pm - Head to the pub for a few pints
11pm - Wander over to the party, possibly smoking some weed if I can get any
11.15pm onwards - Rum drinking + having fun.

I've calmed the drunken side of my personality down a bit in recent months, so in theory it should be a fun night with minimal embarressment and studpity from me :)
Looks like someone will be having a great night. :p

[rippa32]

Tell me TSASI, why are you always changing users? I coulda sworn you were TSASI v2 before.

[Ghoul Hunter]

I got banned, haha.

[rippa32]

You seem to get banned alot, how do you manage it?

[Ghoul Hunter]

I just don't take things seriously on here, haha.

[rippa32]

Nice, don't get too drunk

i wish that Sabbath would be played more around where i live instead of that stupid ****ing crazyfrog ringtone/song

I just noticed this so sorry for the double post. Crazy Frog song? They actually made a song of that? and its popular? I think I have finally lost all fleeting faith in humanity.

[rippa32]

Ive never seen you ever do anything ban-worthy, is it usually in the pit or something?
And seeing as were goin off track a bit here lets talk sabbath. Has anyone here got any rare songs from them? I myself have a blues song they did in '69

[Ghoul Hunter]

It's always in the pit, haha. That's where I post usually.

[shadow_stalker]

I just noticed this so sorry for the double post. Crazy Frog song? They actually made a song of that? and its popular? I think I have finally lost all fleeting faith in humanity.

It beat Coldplay and made it to the number 1 spot in the charts :upset:

[shadow_stalker]

And seeing as were goin off track a bit here lets talk sabbath. Has anyone here got any rare songs from them? I myself have a blues song they did in '69

I have that song 'early warning school' that they did, some stuff Andy posted awhile ago and of course the stuff from the early 70s/late 60s that is on disc 2 of past lives.

[Brew]

I've got The Rebel...well..23seconds of it, Early Warning School and some stuff I posted before.

I keep looking out for rare and live Sabbath stuff but its hard to come by :(

[Ghoul Hunter]

It beat Coldplay and made it to the number 1 spot in the charts :upset:
Hahaha, I can't believe that piece of **** frog is actually a song over there. I'm lucky, i've only seen a crazyfrog commercial once.

On subject though, I can get some live bootlegs of Sabbath probably.

[TerryThorne]

Yeah live bootlegs would be good, lot more power on those songs

[shadow_stalker]

I keep looking out for rare and live Sabbath stuff but its hard to come by :(
Of course it is, if you could buy it on cds it wouldnt be rare, so then there wouldnt be anything special about it.

and omg josh is banned again, how does that boy do it?

[rippa32]

I like the live recordings alot better because theres no **** overdubbing in the solos, it can get really annoying, Iommi especially overdoes it in Into the Void.

[Ghoul Hunter]

Of course it is, if you could buy it on cds it wouldnt be rare, so then there wouldnt be anything special about it.

and omg josh is banned again, how does that boy do it?
:lol: I think i'm setting a record. :-|

[rippa32]

So do I.

[shadow_stalker]

I have decided that i am going to get all my sabbath demos (and other things of that nature) and put them all onto a cd, so i can listen to them away from my comp. :lol:

[Aeaon]

I like the live recordings alot better because theres no **** overdubbing in the solos, it can get really annoying, Iommi especially overdoes it in Into the Void.


I think a lot of metal bands do that.

[shadow_stalker]

Hope this works, for anyone that hasnt heard it here is a cover of 'hole in the sky' by machine head, tis cool.

http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BAWWDZDXBAK60R01BPPHSHNRX

[JACKROXYOU]

wow i havent seen you in awhile shadow

[Brew]

Cover Stuff

:)

Ok, I want to know who's doing what for this covers project thing, we've only got about 3 weeks left ('til August 1st) to get everything sorted.

All I know is that I'm playing bass and programming drums, I think Craig (i_am_jim_page) is doing guitar, but I'm not too sure if thats a definate.

We still need a singer.

If you can get your recordings to me in MP3 format I can hopefully get them into Cubase and mixed together with my bass and the programmed drums.

Here's my proposed song list:

NIB
Heaven and Hell
Hole in the Sky
Iron Man
Paranoid (heh...I guess we should do this)

Discuss!

:)

[MaidenMadness]

god **** i cant even imagine how will that sound like :D

[Brew]

Yes, it will sound great

...

[rippa32]

I think a lot of metal bands do that.

I don't mean dubbing the rythm, if you listen carefully theres a second lead guitar playing on a few of his solos, its easy to tell which one wouldnt be played live(it doesnt happen the whole time) but its still annoying.

[Brew]

bump from page 4.

Guys, we really need to get started on recording our covers...even if they end up being instrumentals.

I want input from everyone on what songs we should do rather than just leaving me to choose them etc...

:)

[shadow_stalker]

I think you should do...

paranoid (obviously)
NIB
TV crimes
and finally something from the martin era, possibly black moon or headless cross.


But if it ends up being instrumental i think you should do wicked world, because that song is built for improvising and avoid doing things like paranoid (due to the fact that it is the same riff over and over)

[comptonassrobert]

/agrees 100% with shadowstalker.

NIB would be really fun do hear

[Brew]

I'd love to do TV Crimes but from what I remember, finding a bass tab was a bit of a bugger.

[Aeaon]

To me, it should some stuff from Paranoid and Master of Reality.

[Brew]

I'd only really do Paranoid from the Paranoid album, just because everyone will probably moan if we don't do it.

[Kyle]

I havn't posted here in ages so im sorry if this has already come up but:

DO you know if they have any plans to do a full UK tour (or at least a few big venues) any time soon? I would love it if they did the same thing with VR and BLS in the UK.

[Brew]

I'm not sure, Iommi wants to do a proper tour with the Sabs again sometime soon thats not an Ozzfest though.

[shadow_stalker]

I'd love to do TV Crimes but from what I remember, finding a bass tab was a bit of a bugger.

try here, http://www.rdrop.com/~mjames/sabbath/index.html

awesome site.

[GenuineImitation]

I'm not sure, Iommi wants to do a proper tour with the Sabs again sometime soon thats not an Ozzfest though.


That would be great, I really want to see them live.

[rippa32]

TV Crimes would be a great track to do, either that or I.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

That would be great, I really want to see them live.

you see them once and you never have to again. Being a diehard Sabbath fan from EVERY era, it is upsetting to see them widdling away with Ozzy at the helm. Ive seen Sabbath since 97' and over the course of the 6 shows ive seen by them, only about 1-2 songs are taken out and replaced every tour not to mention brought back in the next time around. Ozzy can't do more than an hour on stage if he's lucky. Id like to see Sabbath tour with Dio, Hugues, or Martin.

[rippa32]

So would I, too bad Martin has vowed never to play with them again, and Dio wouldn't get along. As for Glenn Hughes well be seeing him for the tour of Iommi's new album. Hope they come to Australia (I doubt it though)

[PrimalScream]

i would pay anything to see a show with tony martin

[rippa32]

Hey, it's nice to see some more open minded people in these forums. Its a nice break from all those "Its not Sabbath without Ozzy" people.

[shadow_stalker]

Hey, it's nice to see some more open minded people in these forums. Its a nice break from all those "Its not Sabbath without Ozzy" people.

*looks around with shifty eyes*

[Brew]

What would be great is a Sabbath SuperShow where all the various singers go on tour with the band and play a few songs each.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^

that is a great idea actually. I started a Black Sabbath offical thread about a year ago and it never took off...its nice to see since i left n came back so many Sabbath fans have arrived! Just to show you all where i am at, heres a list i saved from teh old thread of my favourite songs per album:

Black Sabbath- wicked world, behind the wall of sleep, the wizard
Paranoid- faries wear boots, hand of doom, electric funeral
Master of Reality- after forever, lord of this world, children of the grave
Volume 4- under the sun, supernaut, wheels of confusion
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath- spiral architect, looking for today, killing yourself to live
Sabatoge- symptom of the universe, thrill of it all, the writ
Technical Ectasy- dirty women, gypsy, all moving parts
Never Say Die- hard road, shockwave, over to you
Heaven and Hell- children of the sea, heaven and hell, neon knights
Mob Rules- falling off the edge of the world, country girl, turn up the night
Born Again- trashed, digital bitch, keep it warm
Seventh Star- turn to stone, angry heart, in memory...
Eternal Idol- the shining, ancient warrior, glory ride
Dehumanizer- time machine, sins of the father, after all (the dead)
Headless Cross- devil & daughter, call of the wild, kill in the spirit world
TYR- jerusalem, anno mundi, the sabbath stones
Cross Purposses- back to eden, cross of thorns, I witness
Forbidden- rusty angels, forbidden, kiss of death


Ive owned all the albums for a number of years now...my favourite probley being Sabatoge still.

[shadow_stalker]

I think i am going to get Sabotage next, unless i seea sonta arctica cd in the shop.


<------------woot new avatar :thumb:

[Brew]

^^^

that is a great idea actually. I started a Black Sabbath offical thread about a year ago and it never took off...its nice to see since i left n came back so many Sabbath fans have arrived! Just to show you all where i am at, heres a list i saved from teh old thread of my favourite songs per album:

Black Sabbath- wicked world, behind the wall of sleep, the wizard
Paranoid- faries wear boots, hand of doom, electric funeral
Master of Reality- after forever, lord of this world, children of the grave
Volume 4- under the sun, supernaut, wheels of confusion
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath- spiral architect, looking for today, killing yourself to live
Sabatoge- symptom of the universe, thrill of it all, the writ
Technical Ectasy- dirty women, gypsy, all moving parts
Never Say Die- hard road, shockwave, over to you
Heaven and Hell- children of the sea, heaven and hell, neon knights
Mob Rules- falling off the edge of the world, country girl, turn up the night
Born Again- trashed, digital bitch, keep it warm
Seventh Star- turn to stone, angry heart, in memory...
Eternal Idol- the shining, ancient warrior, glory ride
Dehumanizer- time machine, sins of the father, after all (the dead)
Headless Cross- devil & daughter, call of the wild, kill in the spirit world
TYR- jerusalem, anno mundi, the sabbath stones
Cross Purposses- back to eden, cross of thorns, I witness
Forbidden- rusty angels, forbidden, kiss of death


Ive owned all the albums for a number of years now...my favourite probley being Sabatoge still.


I remember that thread.

I agree with pretty much all of that list, I might do one of my own later.

Edit: Does anyone know what tuning they used on Master of Reality?

Children of the Grave sounds a bit odd in standard.

Edit2: Nevermind, I've just found it.

[shadow_stalker]

Here is another random sabbath cover, this time it is children of the grave by hellfueled

http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0UMVVIC75F2UO28I7YI6K5A6XJ

[Tsuruka]

Who else thought Sabbath should've been at Live8?

[Kronos]

Hey, it's nice to see some more open minded people in these forums. Its a nice break from all those "Its not Sabbath without Ozzy" people.


Well, now there's at least 3 of us! :wave:

[Brew]

Who else thought Sabbath should've been at Live8?

I don't.

Why should they have been there?

[Josh]

the played the original Live Aid, but that's not really a reason. although it would have made the concert better if it had been The Who, Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath headlining.

Titch: Mr Wilkinson likes Sabbath!

[Brew]

My Art teacher likes Sabbath and had Changes as her fav. song.

She only half-arsedly mentioned Paranoid aswell, which made me think :cool:

[Josh]

lol. i just didnt think Mr Wilkinson (physics teacher) would be into classic rock / metal, until we were talking about live8 in a lesson and he said he thought sabbath should have played.

[Brew]

My Physics teacher used to play us Pink Floyd in lessons :)

[Josh]

that's pretty damn cool. i downloaded a video of their live8 set last night, they did good.

wow, i have 7 sabbath albums on my computer - TYR, sabbath bloody sabbath, paranoid, master of reality, headless cross, dehumaniser, best of black sabbath.

[Brew]

I have 18 Sabbath albums on my computer...

/waits for Frail to come back and pwn us all.

[Josh]

lol, i only own 3 of them though...Dehumaniser, Paranoid and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Dehumaniser's probably my favourite though. i borrowed the rest from Titch (Shadow_Stalker)

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

I remember that thread.

I agree with pretty much all of that list, I might do one of my own later.

Edit: Does anyone know what tuning they used on Master of Reality?

Children of the Grave sounds a bit odd in standard.

Edit2: Nevermind, I've just found it.


i belive its tuned down to C# (for the low E) and the rest conincide with that

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

I have 18 Sabbath albums on my computer...

/waits for Frail to come back and pwn us all.

haha well i have a few bootlegs so im a cheater hehe, i think i have 26 overall. The rarest being "heaven and god" with Halford in 92 :)

[Brew]

I have a few tracks from the '92 Costa Mesa shows, they're pretty good.

I think my fav. bootleg is a 16min version of Sabbra Cadabra, its brilliant.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^^

a very untypical lyrical song for them but its catchy as hell! i love it...but not one to sway the ol windmill from hell to :D

[rippa32]

My Physics teacher used to play us Pink Floyd in lessons :)

My IT teacher has all these Beatles songs on his Laptop and once he brought speakers in and we all listened to the white album. :thumb:
On a sabbath related note I found a site that sells live CD and DVD bootlegs for about $15 (I dont know if aussie or american). I was thinking of getting a whole show from the Born Again tour. Do you reckon it would be worth it?

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

I'd be iffy on bootleg live albums like that, i have several and some are wonderful quality that sound as good as any other live album, but there are some that you are like "well, its cool but..." I havent heard anything live from that tour, so i cant say. Always worth checking out though, whats $15? hehe