Rock and Metal's Black Sabbath Thread

[Brew]

The Book Of Heavy Metal is alright, I'm not much of a Dream Evil fan though.

4000th reply :cool:

:chug:

My band can play NIB all the way through and Crazy Train (omg Ozzy solo lolz) all the way through so far, we're working on Hole in the Sky, Master of Puppets and Scream!

[blue3]

That's great that your band can actually play songs. My band sucks, the bassist can't even play Sweet Child O Mine

[JACKROXYOU]

The Book Of Heavy Metal is alright, I'm not much of a Dream Evil fan though.

4000th reply :cool:

:chug:

My band can play NIB all the way through and Crazy Train (omg Ozzy solo lolz) all the way through so far, we're working on Hole in the Sky, Master of Puppets and Scream!

bout time

[shadow_stalker]

my band can play paranoid.

[Brew]

Paranoid blows.

I told my drummer that if he suggested that we cover it, I'd castrate him.

:)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Jesus, i'm retarded. I was thinking, i'm gonna delete posts and make my post the 4,000th, then I realized this isn't MA. :-(

Also, Andy, when you were talking about covers up there, the song Scream!, by who?

[Brew]

The Misfts.

I can play it :cool:

No-one else in my band can :upset:

[spankyoplank]

My band can do crazy train, I don't know, fairies wear boots, Planet Caravan and Sweet Leaf. We're almost done learning War Pigs as well

[spankyoplank]

That's great that your band can actually play songs. My band sucks, the bassist can't even play Sweet Child O Mine

Just cos you're bassist can't play Sweet Child o' mine doesn't mean he sucks. He probably could but can't be arsed because it's pain in the arse for bassist to learn cos it variates quite a lot and Duff does a few fills. I was listening to it for a year before i got round to learning it

[Brew]

I learnt the intro to Sweet Child O' Mine, it was a bugger to get right.

[ToRidTheDisease]

The Misfts.

I can play it :cool:

No-one else in my band can :upset:
Eh, isn't that song really titled Hybrid Moments?

EDIT: Nevermind

[JACKROXYOU]

The Misfts.

I can play it :cool:

No-one else in my band can :upset:

sucks for your band

[rippa32]

I was just thinking today about ozzy and iommi. And when you really think about it you get the feeling Iommi hates ozzy. What do you guys think?

[Brew]

Iommi has never really liked Ozzy, thats why he always put Ozz on the side of the stage at gigs, and himself in the middle.

[rippa32]

He did? I didnt know that. But on the my Vol4 album its got a few live pics and ozzy is in the middle.

[shadow_stalker]

The Misfts.

I can play it :cool:

No-one else in my band can :upset:


I thought you meant scream by micheal jackson :lol:

[Brew]

He did? I didnt know that. But on the my Vol4 album its got a few live pics and ozzy is in the middle.
Most of the shows they did towards the end of Ozzy's era in Sabbath, he got shunted to the side of the stage.

He's on the side on the Never Say Die DVD.

[shadow_stalker]

It really pisses me off how iommi put himself in the middle of the stage, that is not where guitarists belong (unless they also sing).

[N_I_M_R_O_D]

:D NU! TICH ur tlkin about black sabbath ther awsome cos they sound cool n stuff
yer he should be in the corner :lol:

[shadow_stalker]

[B][U]NU! TICH ur tlkin about black sabbath ther awsome cos they sound cool n stuff
yer he should be in the corner

Who the hell are you?

[N_I_M_R_O_D]

nu! am john i like black sabbath

[shadow_stalker]

Oh, that explains alot :lol:

[rippa32]

Please talk in english. And why do you start every post with NU! ?

[N_I_M_R_O_D]

nu! becuase it be how i say hello!

[Brew]

Shut the **** up or type properly in this thread ok?

[N_I_M_R_O_D]

ok i will then if i must jolly good show

[Brew]

Welcome to mx :wave:

Usefull tips:

Read the rules for every forum that you visit before posting threads etc...
Try not to spam
Respect others opinions, especially here in R&M
Don't type like a fool
Have fun

[Six Foot Revolver]

Welcome to mx :wave:

Usefull tips:

Read the rules for every forum that you visit before posting threads etc...
Try not to spam
Respect others opinions, especially here in R&M
Don't type like a fool
Have fun
I highlighted the three rules that they are breaking in the Metallica thread :)

[N_I_M_R_O_D]

im here 2 mwha ha ha

[Brew]

Wow, he already got banned.

Silly n00b.

MXican - The Metallica thread scares me too much these days, too many people with their opinions up there arses.

[ToRidTheDisease]

nurrr nurrr nuuuu nurrr i r a sabat fan liek nurrr all u guys my nae is john nuuu nurrr

Anyway, yes, the Metallica thread is like a huge box of elitist ****.

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah i hate when threads do that.


SABBATH RULE, THEY ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!!!

[ToRidTheDisease]

Sabbathsttrtaany Bndst's Ve Enouf!nra Ebretah Aev Nh Eeb I I

****, my keyboard/internet decided it would be funny to mess up everything I typed and randomly spit out letters.

[Josh]

strange...titch, i have put master of reality in my bag so i will give it to you tomorrow. that's one kick-*** album, even though embryo is only 28 seconds long i still think its great. and after forever is another great song.

[Brew]

Solitude is a personal fav. of mine from Master of Reality.

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah solitude is a great song, i only like about the first 6 seconds of Orchid (i think thats the one).

[rippa32]

strange...titch, i have put master of reality in my bag so i will give it to you tomorrow. that's one kick-*** album, even though embryo is only 28 seconds long i still think its great. and after forever is another great song.

Yeah embryo is great. Especially if you listen to children of the grave afterwards. They even play them together live.

[TerryThorne]

I prefer Orchid on that album

[IAJP]

Anyone who has Black Sabbath...

ON 7:40 OF THE WARNING TONY IOMI MAKES A MISTAKE :eek:!


I hate to nipick, but I just noticed...

[TerryThorne]

Ive noticed that too

[IAJP]

He more than compensates by being a fantastically good guitarist though ;).

[Brew]

You also made a mistake in your post you silly tit.

/me puts on The Warning

Edit: I can't spot the mistake :(

[Josh]

he spelt "Iommi" wrong, he put "Iomi"

[Brew]

Not his spelling mistake, Iommi's mistake :rolleyes:

[Josh]

I don't have that album / song so I can't check it.
NP: heaven and hell

[cliff solos for all]

do they have any bass solos

[Brew]

The intro to NIB is a bass solo.

*thinks*

Other than that, Geezer didn't really get much chance to do any bass solo's, neither did any of the other Sabbath bass players. But when you listen to the early Sabbath stuff, especially The Warning, the bass is pretty much a solo anyway, with all the improvised groovin' and whatnot.

[flamesofbodom]

Geezer plays more bass than Tony plays guitar in War Pigs. Listen to it. I never realized it until my band decided to cover it.

[JACKROXYOU]

same in nib

[pigonthewing82]

Yeah I really respect Geezer, I love his bass lines.

[rippa32]

Actually theres a bass solo in sweet leaf. And you cant forget the freeform jazz in the middle of wicked world live.

[shadow_stalker]

Anyone who has Black Sabbath...

ON 7:40 OF THE WARNING TONY IOMI MAKES A MISTAKE :eek:!


I hate to nipick, but I just noticed...

Im gonna have to listen for that :lol:

[shadow_stalker]

Andy very nice songs there. Why ever did black sabbath stop doing improvised bits like on sbs?

The rebel sounds like it was pulled straight off the story of... vol 1

Dont much like Rob Halford singing supernaut

Blow on a jug is just...well...

[Brew]

Halford + Supernaut = pretty bad.
Ial Gillan + Supernaut = absolutley shockingly poor.

Don't they talk over The Rebel on Vol.1? If so then the dude that I got it from must've found it somewhere else.

My guess for Sabbath doing less improvising over the years, is lack of drugs. Back in the day they used to go on stage high, especially Geezer who'd go on stage tripping on Acid.

[ToRidTheDisease]

I need help.

How does Geezer get that clunky, crunchy, hard attack sound on his bass, but keep the tone clean?

[IAJP]

I can only assume palm muting.
Although it's stupidly hard to do on bass,

You might want to try and add a lot of trebble to your sound too, wah is a must, especially for the N.I.B sounding kinda scene.

[pigonthewing82]

Actually theres a bass solo in sweet leaf. And you cant forget the freeform jazz in the middle of wicked world live.

That is an awsome jam, and one of the most underrated.

[DesiOzymandias]

Def, sweetleaf is an amazing song, love it, as well as a few others, but eh, Iron Man is still one of my fav's lol, Electric Funeral is sooo cool, great trippin song

[DesiOzymandias]

Ya know, surprisingly enuff, not nearly as many bands go on stage high/trippin as they used to, and what sucks is that that's caused a loss of quite a few great songs that made sabbath so amazing... *sigh* I want more sabbath *drool*

[Brew]

I need help.

How does Geezer get that clunky, crunchy, hard attack sound on his bass, but keep the tone clean?

When they recorded the first album, Geezers amp had one speaker that had blown out.

/useless fact

I'm not too sure how he gets his sound, I've been trying to get it for awhile now.

[shadow_stalker]

Don't they talk over The Rebel on Vol.1? If so then the dude that I got it from must've found it somewhere else.

My guess for Sabbath doing less improvising over the years, is lack of drugs. Back in the day they used to go on stage high, especially Geezer who'd go on stage tripping on Acid.

i think they only talk over the vocal parts, oh well...

They should kepp doing drugs, it sounds cool

[rippa32]

Def, sweetleaf is an amazing song, love it, as well as a few others, but eh, Iron Man is still one of my fav's lol, Electric Funeral is sooo cool, great trippin song

When he said awesome jam I think he was reffering to Wicked World live.

[rippa32]

i think they only talk over the vocal parts, oh well...

They should kepp doing drugs, it sounds cool

I admit it sounds cool. But I think it was a good idea that Ozzy quit the drugs.

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah all of them were doing a good move quitting, but musically it was bad.

[rippa32]

Actually from what ive heard of geezer the music is quite good. Too bad the singer sounds like he belongs in an industrial band.

[shadow_stalker]

I've never listend to geezers solo stuff..

Rippa was it you that was telling me about that austrakian power metal band?

[rippa32]

Yes yes it was.

[shadow_stalker]

What were they called?

[rippa32]

Dungeon. Do you like them?

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah they are cool, gonna have a look for on of their cds.

[rippa32]

Yeah you could just dont expect to find them in HMV or Sanity. Its hard enough finding fairly well known bands in those places. To date I have never found a Dio album in a Sanity store.

[Ronnie James Dio]

Good Stuff, I think I should get into them more. Any album suggestions besides Paranoid?


War Pigs and Paranoid for me too.
Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules are their best CDs.

And what a frikken coincidink, Ronnie James Dio is in both of them (he replaced Ozzy after he left).

[Brew]

Live Evil is the best Sabbath album to get with Dio on it.

Dungeon are cool.

Fact: Ozzy does not play Harmonica on Swinging the Chain, its someone else. I only found this out yesterday when playing my vinyl copy of Never Say Die! and reading the sleeve notes.

[shadow_stalker]

Dude Black Sabbath is their best cd then all other ozzy sabbath albums, then dehumanizer the headless cross, the TYR and after that maybe heaven and hell.

[shadow_stalker]

Fact: Ozzy does not play Harmonica on Swinging the Chain, its someone else. I only found this out yesterday when playing my vinyl copy of Never Say Die! and reading the sleeve notes.

He played it on The wizard didnt he?

[Six Foot Revolver]

I would definately recommend Self Titled to Sabbath newbies

[Brew]

He played it on The wizard didnt he?

Probably.

I'm going to make an Offical Recommendation Post in this thread for any n00bs interested in getting into Sabbath etc... sometime soon, but at the moment I'm feeling lazy.

[Velvet_Gun]

They are coming to Vienna in June with Velvet Revolver as the support.
unfortunately the Tickets are very expensive...

[Josh]

NP: metallica - sabbra cadabra

tis not a bad cover at all.

[Brew]

Lord Brum's Black Sabbath Recommendation Post!

Ok, seeing as we get alot of people asking in here what albums/songs are good as stepping-stones to the world of Black Sabbath, I figured I'd make this post then get you guys to link it whenever someone makes a post along the lines of:

'' 'sup you funky Sabbath d00dz, whats a good album to get by Black Sabbath?''

So...here we go.

Albums - Ozzy Years

I'm going to keep my opinions out of this part of the thread :p

Most of the guys in here have said that Black Sabbath and Paranoid are the best albums to get first, to be honest you'd be best buying them in order.

An album to avoid from the Ozzy years is Live at Last, its a crappy bootlegg and you'd be better off buying Past Lives, or Re-union. Also if possibly, try not to buy the 1996 Castle Remasters of the albums, the quality on them is poor, worse than my vinyl copies.

Dio Years

With only a choice of 4 albums, its not hard picking which one to buy. They're all as good as each other, but I'd highly recommend Live Evil as a first purchase from the Dio years, then the rest (Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer) in that order.

Tony Martin Years

I've only heard the albums Headless Cross and TYR from the Tony Martin years, he also featured on The Eternal Idol, Cross Purposes, Forbidden and Cross Purposes Live .

I've heard snippets of Cross Purposes Live, I'd recommend it if you're after a live album thats not got Ozzy on it.

From this era I'd highly recommend TYR

The Rest

Born Again

From what I've heard, this album only really appeals to the hardcore Sabbath fans, and fans of anything that contains Ian Gillan. The songs that I've heard are good, but a bit of a let-down from the Dio years.

7th Star

This is actually a Tony Iommi solo album under the Black Sabbath banner, its a bit hit and miss in places, but worthy of being in your collection.

Compilations/Best Of's

This is simple, if you want a good compilation album, buy The Best of Black Sabbath, it gives you alot of Ozzy songs, along with a few Dio and Ian Gillan songs I think.

If you're an Ozzy pureist, I'd recommend We Sold Our Soul For Rock n Roll, although it only covers upto the Sabotage album.

Live Albums

The best live album is probably Re-Union, with Live Evil, Past Lives, Cross Purposes Live and Live at Last coming behind, in that order.

Now then, the moment you've all been waiting for, this is my list for which order to buy the albums in (the ones that I have):

Volume 4
Black Sabbath
Never Say Die!
Live Evil
Heaven and Hell
Master of Reality
Sabotage
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Technical Ecstasy
Headless Cross
TYR
Mob Rules
Dehumanizer
Paranoid

Songs

If you're cheap and lazy, here's a list of songs to download to give you some inspiration for which album to buy: (not in order)

Tomorrow's Dream (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Supernaut (Volume 4, Ozzy)
Neon Knights (Heaven and Hell, Dio)
The Law Maker (TYR, Tony Martin)
Black Sabbath (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Iron Man (Paranoid, Ozzy)
The Sign of the Southern Cross (Mob Rules, Dio)
TV Crimes (Dehumanizer, Dio)
Air Dance (Never Say Die!, Ozzy)
Gypsy (Technical Ecstasy, Ozzy)
Headless Cross (Headless Cross, Tony Martin)
Jerusalem (TYR, Tony Martin)
Trashed (Born Again, Ian Gillan)
7th Star (7th Star, Glen Hughes [I think, my memory is hazey at the moment] )
Megalomania (Sabotage, Ozzy)
Sabbra Cadabra (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Ozzy)
The Warning (Black Sabbath, Ozzy)
Hand of Doom (Paranoid, Ozzy)
After Forever (Master of Reality, Ozzy)

Yeh...I could go on for awhile recommending songs.

Well, I hope this post has been usefull for some of you, any questions feel free to ask them, and any of the regulars, feel free to add songs to the song list etc...

-Brum

:)

[ToRidTheDisease]

Nice Andy. Want it in the first post?

[Brew]

Yeh, that would be a wise idea.

[Eitri Is Berserk]

How much time did you spend on that post, Brum?

[Brew]

Er....10mins?

I think.

[shadow_stalker]

Nice one.


SHADOW_STALKER'S BLACK SABBATH RECOMENDATION POST:

ALL ALBUMS

[rippa32]

lol Very true. I actually really like Dehumanizer. Is the other Dio albums similair?

[geezerbasser21370]

Nice one.


SHADOW_STALKER'S BLACK SABBATH RECOMENDATION POST:

ALL ALBUMS
i concure

[Six Foot Revolver]

He played it on The wizard didnt he?
I'm pretty sure he did and good work Brummie :thumb:

[Brew]

Nice one.


SHADOW_STALKER'S BLACK SABBATH RECOMENDATION POST:

ALL ALBUMS

:rolleyes:

You seem to have missed the general point of my post.

[shadow_stalker]

No i got it, i just felt like being a dick...then again i am called richard so i cant help it.

[Brew]

Well you succeeded.

[shadow_stalker]

:lol:




































































































:upset:

[Brew]

Long posts like that are against the rules, at least they are in The Pit.

[shadow_stalker]

Yes but...

[ToRidTheDisease]

Andy's on a role. :cool:

[shadow_stalker]

Pff neads to see the funny side of things

by the way when i said pff i actually ment pff not puff...

[ToRidTheDisease]

Haha.

How'd you like my Andy post on MA? Haha.

[shadow_stalker]

It was made me laugh quite a bit actually

[Brew]

Haha.

How'd you like my Andy post on MA? Haha.

Link?

But really, long posts suck.

[ToRidTheDisease]

http://www.musicianalliance.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=214&start=1230

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah they do sorry about that.

[Brew]

http://www.musicianalliance.net/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=214&start=1230

Uhh...I don't quite get it :confused:

Edit: Hmm, after reading the thread a few times it makes sense.

shadow_stalker - :angry: at you.

:(

Edit2: Links to un-edited posts if possible plz.

[ToRidTheDisease]

The post is near the bottom.

[shadow_stalker]

sorry andy i called you a wanker, i didnt mean it.

[Brew]

I want to know what was there before the edit :)

[shadow_stalker]

i just called you a wanker for being serious in this thread

[Brew]

I've always been serious in this thread though.

[shadow_stalker]

No you havnt

[ToRidTheDisease]

Guys, don't argue.

[Brew]

Quote a daft post for me from this thread, then I'll be quiet.

[shadow_stalker]

:angry:

Page 153, not so much a stupid post but...

[Brew]

Far from being a stupid post, it was merely part of the conversation going on that page.

[shadow_stalker]

I need to ****, shower and if I can be arsed: shave.

I'm going out in just over an hour to buy stuff for monday's party.

:)


And some more on page 145.

Thats it im out of stuff, you win

[Brew]

How are they non-serious?

They're just part of flowing conversation between the regulars.

Meh.

[JACKROXYOU]

man what happened?

[rippa32]

Well that conversation was certainly unexpected.

[shadow_stalker]

Anyway it doesnt matter.

anyone know any decent sabbath tribute bands (aside from that ausralian one).

[Josh]

:rolleyes: H.I.M :rolleyes: well maybe not lol, they're just crap, even if they did start off as a sabbath tribute band. erm...no i don't really know any, i've just heard covers of single songs that have been done by other bands, rather than sabbath tribute bands.

[rippa32]

Anyway it doesnt matter.

anyone know any decent sabbath tribute bands (aside from that ausralian one).

What australian one?

[shadow_stalker]

Can't remember their name but awhile ago someone posted a link to an australian sabbath tribute band (you could hear their versions of NIB, paranoid and iron man)

Anyone that listens to sonata arctica ever noticed that the end of 'victoria's secret' sounds alot like the end of 'behind the wall of sleep'?

[rippa32]

Im getting alot of negative comments from friends about the Born Again album cover. What do you guys think of it?

[ToRidTheDisease]

Can't remember their name but awhile ago someone posted a link to an australian sabbath tribute band (you could hear their versions of NIB, paranoid and iron man)

Anyone that listens to sonata arctica ever noticed that the end of 'victoria's secret' sounds alot like the end of 'behind the wall of sleep'?
I noticed that as well.

[Brew]

Im getting alot of negative comments from friends about the Born Again album cover. What do you guys think of it?

Worst.Albumcover.Ever.

It was designed to look like aload of crap by Don Arden, because at the time he & Sabbath weren't getting along very well.

Oddly enough, Tony loved the cover.

[shadow_stalker]

Im getting alot of negative comments from friends about the Born Again album cover. What do you guys think of it?

I think it looks crap, there was an article about it on black-sabbath.com.

It basically said what Brum just said.

[shadow_stalker]

I noticed that as well.

Awesome song though.

[Jude]

Im getting alot of negative comments from friends about the Born Again album cover. What do you guys think of it?

There are worse album covers in the world, and most of them can be seen here: http://www.cenedella.com/stone/archives/000302.html

Otherwise, it's pretty much rock bottom.

[shadow_stalker]

Those album covers made me laugh...well some of them

[rippa32]

I dont see whats wrong with the Born Again cover. What dont you guys like about it?

[Brew]

I don't mind it, there's alot worse ones out there.

[shadow_stalker]

I think it just looks stupid.

[Six Foot Revolver]

It is a very weird cover


<-----New Tony Iommi avatar

[Brew]

He's lookin wise, as always.

[shadow_stalker]

Looking like the smug git that he is.

:lol:

[AA-12]

The Born Again cover is quite, well, unlikeable.

[here comes the bird flu]

I like 'War Pigs' a lot. The more I've listened to Black Sabbath lately, I've noticed that they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin. Has anyone ever noticed that or am I crazy?

Monti


your crazy...

[AA-12]

your crazy...
How so?

[Six Foot Revolver]

your crazy...
He is crazy because he has an opinion?

[rippa32]

Does anyone know what amps Iommi uses in the ozzy era?

[shadow_stalker]

Not sure i think it starts with a 'P', at least in some very early live videos im sure it does.

[Brew]

Does anyone know what amps Iommi uses in the ozzy era?

I know that Geezer uses Laney amps.

[rippa32]

Well I knew that Iommi used Laney at some point and Marshalls at another but I really have no idea what he usedin the ozzy era.

[rippa32]

Well not much is happening in this thread. Ill set things off by starting a little trivia.
What year did Ozzy first leave Black Sabbath?

[Brew]

1977.

Replaced by Dave Walker (I think thats his name)

Came back in 1978.

Released Never Say Die!

Finally kicked out in late 1978/early 1979.

[shadow_stalker]

Damnit beaten to it (probably by a long way).

didn't they scrap all the work they did with him because ozzy refused to sing it.

[Jimi Haze]

Anyone going to see them at Download?
I am :D With backstage V.I.P tickets so I'll be meeting them hehe :p

[shadow_stalker]

...i hate you, you lucky bastard

[Brew]

Transport me back to 1973 then I'd be really jealous of you.

[shadow_stalker]

lol, why 73?

hwy your postcount says 73 at the end of it.

[Brew]

1973 = Vol.4 tour, when the Sabbath MK 1 line-up were at their best.

[AA-12]

Mk 1?

[Brew]

*sigh*

Mk 1 Black Sabbath = Ozzy/Geezer/Iommi/Bill
Mk 2 = Dio/Geezer/Iommi/Bill
Mk 3 = Dio/Geezer/Iommi/Vinny

etc...

There have been roughly 40 different Black Sabbath line-ups.

[rippa32]

Damnit beaten to it (probably by a long way).

didn't they scrap all the work they did with him because ozzy refused to sing it.

Actually they only wrote a couple of songs with him and I think Ozzy sang it, I can't quite remember.

EDIT: It was juniors eyes and the lyrics are different on ozzy's version.

[metallica fan]

you know that coke download thing, very good quality songs.How come they dont have any early black sabbath stuff?

[rippa32]

What coke download thing?

[shadow_stalker]

1973 = Vol.4 tour, when the Sabbath MK 1 line-up were at their best.

ah right, i see...


I think that you can download music with coca-cola now so that must be what he ment (that was to rippa)

[Brew]

Actually they only wrote a couple of songs with him and I think Ozzy sang it, I can't quite remember.

EDIT: It was juniors eyes and the lyrics are different on ozzy's version.
They actually wrote an entire albums worth of material, and played an early version of Juniors Eyes on TV with Dave.

When Ozzy came back he didn't want to use any of the stuff that had been written, so they wrote what we now know as Never Say Die!

[AA-12]

you know that coke download thing, very good quality songs.How come they dont have any early black sabbath stuff?
Sabbath > Coke

[rippa32]

They actually wrote an entire albums worth of material, and played an early version of Juniors Eyes on TV with Dave.

When Ozzy came back he didn't want to use any of the stuff that had been written, so they wrote what we now know as Never Say Die!

Ok then.

[rippa32]

What the hell is happening to this thread? It ended up on page 6. Ill try some trivia again.
Who replaced Dio in the last two dates of the Dehuminizer tour which Dio refused to sing for?

[shadow_stalker]

Rob Halford.

This thread is dyeing abit snt it.

[geezerbasser21370]

Anyway it doesnt matter.

anyone know any decent sabbath tribute bands (aside from that ausralian one).
theres an all female sabbath tribute band bassed in L.A. I think, they are called mistresses of reality, ther'e pretty good

[geezerbasser21370]

Speaking of Halford was any one at the ozzfest in jersey where halford sang with sabbath? I thought he did pretty good except paranoid......

[Brew]

I've got a few songs from his 1992 performances.

They're not great, but his voice adds an interesting twist to the Sabbath songs.

I downloaded a nice rare live Sabbath song from 1969 last night :)

[shadow_stalker]

what song?

[Brew]

I can't remember the name, but it was quite jazzy.

Also easy to find, if you use your brain.

[shadow_stalker]

Thats not fair, i cant use mine!

[Brew]

Your problem, not mine :p

[shadow_stalker]

It will be everyones problem when i rule the world.

[rippa32]

I've got a few songs from his 1992 performances.

They're not great, but his voice adds an interesting twist to the Sabbath songs.

I downloaded a nice rare live Sabbath song from 1969 last night :)

Yeah I got that one too. Im surprised at the quality of it considering its a bootleg from 1969. Its a shame you cant hear what Ozzy is singing though.

[wicked_child]

btw, who sang on black sabbath's version of smoke on the water?

[ArcLite]

Ian Gillan my friend, same man who sang the original.

[rippa32]

Have u got the Born Again album cjborton?

[ArcLite]

Have u got the Born Again album cjborton?

No, wouldn't mind having it though.

[Brew]

Yeah I got that one too. Im surprised at the quality of it considering its a bootleg from 1969. Its a shame you cant hear what Ozzy is singing though.

I got quite alot of stuff from the dude's website, most of it is pretty good.

[shadow_stalker]

What website?

[Brew]

Its not difficult to guess which website its from.

[rippa32]

Is it www.black-sabbath.com? thats where I got mine.

[Brew]

*applause*

[shadow_stalker]

Ah, found it thanks.

First time i've been on those forums for quite awhile

[shadow_stalker]

I've found out that quite a bit of 'warning' is easy to play on the guitar, but its such a bitch trying to remember which bits go where.

Damn the song for being that long.

[Darkness]

I listened to the paranoid cd all day today... it was so awesome. I haven't listened to that since like October... War pigs = amazing song. Somethings I didn't like though, are that on alot of the songs the guitar would be on one speaker and the bass on the other... or guitar on both and bass just on one. It really annoyed the hell out of me.

[AA-12]

The sound isn't like that for me.

/waits for Andy

[Darkness]

Well it is on my cd... I'll have to give my record a listen.

[Brew]

'sup 1996 Castle Remaster?

Its like that on my copy, not that I really give a crap seeing as its my least favourite album, besides some bands panned their instruments like that anyways.

[Darkness]

Yes, it is a remaster.

[Brew]

If its the Castle Remaster then yeh, the sound is going to be incredibly meh.

Its handy though for learning songs.

[rippa32]

Is it possible to get CD's that dont have a remastered recording? Or do I have to get a vinyl record for it to not be remastered?

[Darkness]

If its the Castle Remaster then yeh, the sound is going to be incredibly meh.

Its handy though for learning songs.

Its not castle, its Earmark. "vinyl reissues don't get any better than this!"

[Brew]

Hmm.

I've only got original vinyl copies of most of the albums, but not one for Paranoid.

Maybe thats how they felt it sounded good - guitars in one speaker, bass in the other, then drums and vocals in the centre.

If you think about it, thats how it would sound if they were playing out of amps on stage.

[gijoe467]

electric funeral is such an awesome song

[rippa32]

Hmm.

I've only got original vinyl copies of most of the albums, but not one for Paranoid.

Maybe thats how they felt it sounded good - guitars in one speaker, bass in the other, then drums and vocals in the centre.

If you think about it, thats how it would sound if they were playing out of amps on stage.

Yeah Ive always that it sounds better that way. Thats how AC/DC does it.

[JACKROXYOU]

Hmm.

I've only got original vinyl copies of most of the albums, but not one for Paranoid.

Maybe thats how they felt it sounded good - guitars in one speaker, bass in the other, then drums and vocals in the centre.

If you think about it, thats how it would sound if they were playing out of amps on stage.

show off

[rippa32]

I just heard recordings of Ian Gillan live with sabbath. He is actually much better live and although I prefer ozzy's versions he does put a nice sound to the originals. Better than Dios versions IMO.

[Brew]

Gillan killed Supernaut.

show off

Huh?

[acefrehleyjendell]

Anyone heard Tony Martin sing War Pigs?

What a disgrace

[Brew]

I've heard snippets of him singing Mob Rules, Into the Void and Paranoid, they seemed pretty good to me.

I really want to get a copy of Cross Purposes Live, but I can't find it anywhere in Bristol.

[King_Karl]

Wow I found this thread again. Sabbath rule but I can't go to downlod :(

[Brew]

Rumour has it that they're doing a tour after the Ozzfest in America, so they'll probably come over here.

They'll be meh at Download, it'll be like watching the Last Supper DVD.

[rippa32]

Gillan killed Supernaut.

I havnt heard him sing that. Where did you get it?

[Hui_LP]

Sabbath absolutely rules. Must say I like Dio's solowork more, but that's not of any importance.

Much more important is that I'm going to see them this summer on Fields of Rock. Happy me..

[Brew]

I havnt heard him sing that. Where did you get it?

I found it on Winmx, then quickly deleted it.

[rippa32]

Ok, I wont bother with it then.
So has anyone heard about Iommi's new solo album? Its got Glenn Hughes on vocals and bass like in the 96 DEP sessions. It looks to be quite good, geezer himself has recommended the album very highly. I hope its better than his last solo album.

[shadow_stalker]

They'll be meh at Download, it'll be like watching the Last Supper DVD.

Except without the funny interviews.

[Brew]

^True.

Rumour has it that Iommi and GZR are going to tour together in the summer, hopefully they'll come to England.

[AA-12]

GZR = Geezer?

****, I haven't been here in a while.

[Brew]

Yep.

[rippa32]

That would be great. Except I dont really like GZR's singer.

[shadow_stalker]

Never heard either of their solo stuff, but if hey play newcastle i will go.

[Brew]

I ordered Ohmwork last night, along with DJ Shadows ''Entroducing...'' and The Scorpions ''Classic Bites'', they should be here by Friday.

[rippa32]

Okay cool tell us what you think when you get it.

[Brew]

Tomorrow hopefully.

[SpLiT]

I love Black Sabbath, theyre one of those bands like zeppelin that will never die....hell my dad got me listening to it and ill listen to it till the day i die. Sweet leaf and paranoid are my fav. songs. LONG LIVE SABBATH!!!!
yeah, i dont know what the big deal about the song ''paranoid'' is, i guess i just dont like it as much as their other songs
sweet leaf on the other hand kicks ***! :thumb:

[rippa32]

Brum will like you lol. But yes Sweet Leaf is an awesome song. Incredibly simple to play but still awesome.

[Brew]

yeah, i dont know what the big deal about the song ''paranoid'' is, i guess i just dont like it as much as their other songs
sweet leaf on the other hand kicks ***! :thumb:

:cool:

Due to currently being obsessed with Dio, I prefer his Sabbath work over the Ozzy years. Even Dio's version of Paranoid is good.

Ohmwork didn't come today :(

It should be here tomorrow, if not then I'm going to be upset.

[Evil Homer]

Anyone heard of crazy train?

[shadow_stalker]

It isn't a Black Sabbath song, it is an ozzy solo song.

But it does rock my spongebob socks!

[Josh]

Anyone heard of crazy train?
please, get some basic Sabbath knowledge - THEY DID NOT DO CRAZY TRAIN, THAT WAS ON OZZY OSBOURNE'S FIRST SOLO ALBUM!:thumb:

nothing wrong with the song, in fact i think it's great, but certain people in this thread *cough*Lord Brum*cough* don't like discussions on Ozzy's solo work.

[shadow_stalker]

Pff at least at had the curtosy and tact to say it nicley, but that is the basic point.

There is an ozzy solo thread knocking about somewhere, if you use the search function you will find it.

[Evil Homer]

Haha i was joking around with you guys...i know its an Ozzy solo song :lol:

I have the Ozzman Cometh cd :)

[shadow_stalker]

That cd is awesome.

[Brew]

Meh, I've gone off Ozzy's solo work at the moment.

[Josh]

Pff at least at had the curtosy and tact to say it nicley, but that is the basic point.

There is an ozzy solo thread knocking about somewhere, if you use the search function you will find it.
i think it died a few weeks ago...

NP: sweet leaf

EDIT: found the Ozzy thread: here (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7342863#post7342863) it is :thumb:
hasn't been posted in by anyone for about 7 weeks though.

[shadow_stalker]

Yeah i think last post i made in it was when i bought his box set.

On a different note i've been listening to once by nightwish all morning, tis pretty good.


Also my lost horizon cd should finally be coming soon :thumb:

[rippa32]

:cool:

Due to currently being obsessed with Dio, I prefer his Sabbath work over the Ozzy years. Even Dio's version of Paranoid is good.

Ohmwork didn't come today :(

It should be here tomorrow, if not then I'm going to be upset.

Wahoo openmindedness. ALthough I still prefer Ozzy. Are you into Dio's solo career at all? Its really good.

[Brew]

I'm into pretty much everything Dio has done at the moment, from his early days in Ronnie and the Red Caps/Elves/Ronnie and the Prophets, to his days in Elf and Rainbow, Black Sabbath then finally his solo career.

Rainbow - Rising is one of my fav. albums at the moment, its brilliant. I can't find a fault with it at all.

Ohmwork came today :) I've heard about half of it...

...its pretty good. Rather than use the bog standard intro-verse-chrous-solo-verse-outro structure, the music is heavily riff based, and there are little to no solos. I'm not so keen on the vocals at the moment, but they'll probably grow on me eventually.

[Kronos]

Got Heaven and Hell this week - I'd only got it on vinyl and tape - and it reminded me of how good it is. And of how much I prefer Dio's voice.

[RustedPieces]

I like Ozzy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

[Brew]

Got Heaven and Hell this week - I'd only got it on vinyl and tape - and it reminded me of how good it is. And of how much I prefer Dio's voice.

I have it on vinyl and cd...although my cd version is a vinyl rip so I get all the crackles n pops etc...but its all good.

[rippa32]

I'm into pretty much everything Dio has done at the moment, from his early days in Ronnie and the Red Caps/Elves/Ronnie and the Prophets, to his days in Elf and Rainbow, Black Sabbath then finally his solo career.

Rainbow - Rising is one of my fav. albums at the moment, its brilliant. I can't find a fault with it at all.

Ohmwork came today :) I've heard about half of it...

...its pretty good. Rather than use the bog standard intro-verse-chrous-solo-verse-outro structure, the music is heavily riff based, and there are little to no solos. I'm not so keen on the vocals at the moment, but they'll probably grow on me eventually.

I was thinking of getting Rising myself as it has cozy powell on drums,
As for Ohmwork, I know what you mean (Ive heard samples on the website). But I think the voice will never grow on me. Iommi's new album should be good though.

[Kronos]

I like Ozzy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

Like I care

[Kronos]

I have it on vinyl and cd...although my cd version is a vinyl rip so I get all the crackles n pops etc...but its all good.

Funny thing crackles and pops - when CDs came out we couldn't wait to see the back of 'em - now some people miss 'em cos they add atmosphere etc. A more "organic" sound if you like. :wave:

[Brew]

I prefer the sound of vinyl, sometimes cd's sound far too polished.

rippa - Cozy's drumming on Rising is fantastic, really good stuff on there.

[Brew]

I like Ozzy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

Please give reasons as to why you like Ozzy better.

Note: saying that Paranoid is the best album does not count as a reason.

[shadow_stalker]

Note: saying that Paranoid is the best album does not count as a reason.

Damn :lol:

*likes ozzy better than any other sabbath singer*

[King_Karl]

Me too. I just love his voice.

[shadow_stalker]

hehe nice avatar. :thumb:

I wish sabbath would do a porper uk our rather than festival ****. If not they should just come and play newcastle.

[King_Karl]

I'm from Newcastle too so i'm all for that plan.

[hypocracy hater]

Ozzy's droning whine suits their earlier, slower stuff, but Dio's voice suits the more dramatic and faster tempos of the later albums.

[Brew]

Sabbath should play at the NEC.

Wait...

No they shouldn't, its a crap venue for gigs.

[rippa32]

I just want them to come to Australia. Like hell they will though.

[Kronos]

Ozzy's droning whine suits their earlier, slower stuff, but Dio's voice suits the more dramatic and faster tempos of the later albums.

I think it has alot to do with the fact that the earlier songs were written FOR Ozzy, and the later Dio album songs were written BY Dio FOR Dio. I admit that Dio singing Paranoid sounds rather wrong, but he does a better job I imagine than Ozzy singing Heaven and Hell. I don't think many would argue that Dio isn't a more accomplished singer. Bands tend to write stuff their vocalists can do well; it's just that I like the material with Dio more anyway.

[Brew]

I got Born Again and The Eternal Idol on vinyl today, I've only heard half of The Eternal Idol so far, its pretty good.

[rippa32]

Ive got zero the hero from Born Again. Lyrics and melody are a bit cheesy but a great riff. Hey brum do you get you're vinyls new or second hand? I was thinking of getting Ozzy's Blizzard of Ozz album on vinyl so I get the original bass and drum tracks and not those re-recorded ones.

[Brew]

Up to Never Say Die! the vinyl are originals/second editions all bought by my old man back in the 70's and 80's. The ones I've bought myself (H&H, MR, LE, BA, TEI) are all second hand.

I also have Blizzard of Ozz on vinyl, its good. Well worth buying.

And yeh...Zero the Hero is a bit daft...kinda reminds me of Hulk Hogan...

[rippa32]

Is the rest of the album similair?

[Kronos]

Is the rest of the album similair?

If you mean "Born Again" then the rest of the album is as bad or worse.

[Brew]

I quite liked Born Again, sure its not typical Sabbath but its still an alright album.

[rippa32]

Well I really like Gillans voice so itll probably be my next sabbath album. Then maybe Seventh Star.

[JACKROXYOU]

this thread lives???

wheres laiho?

[rippa32]

He changed his name. I cant remember what to atm. But good question.