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Kingadamx
10-14-2004, 06:09 PM
Featured Artist #11 - Frank Zappa

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I remember the first time that I heard Frank Zappa. I was about Eleven years old, I was driving to the Golf Course with my friend and his dad. His dad had Live at the Fillmore East on. I didn't really understand most of the humor, for most of it has to do with sex and groupies, but I thought the man was a Freak and I didn't really like him. Eventually I got my hands on one of his albums, (actually 2) Apostrophe(')/Over-nite Sensation, and listened to it for the hell of it, I laughed my *** off when I heard this album. Then soon enough I became a Freak, and was hooked on Zappa. He is one of my favorite musicians.

I can start off by saying that Frank Zappa is one of the greatest composers of the twentieth century and one of the most under-rated guitarists of his time. His music ranged from Classical to Jazz to Doo Wop to Hard Rock to Comedy routines. Francis Vincent Zappa Jr. was born in Baltimore Maryland on December 21, 1940. Frank moved to California when he was 10 years old. His father was a meteoroligist who did work with the military.

Frank grew up playing the drums. Not until his late teens did he pick up the guitar. He grew up playing in small time garage bands. He even played in his high school marching band, until his band director kicked him out for smoking in uniform.

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Soon enough Frank formed the most bizarre group of freaks that the music industry ever saw called ,Yes You guessed it, THE MOTHERS OF INVENTION. The original name for the band was The Mothers but some record company was worried that the name The Mothers was making a reference to Motherf**kers, so of Invention was added to the name.

The Mothers of Invention's first album Freak Out! is arguably Frank's best work ever. It was like nothing Rock and Roll had seen before. The album encompasses everything from doo wop to the first rap song (Trouble Every Day). I suggest those new to Frank Zappa to pick this album up. Another two albums were made by the band such as Absoluitely Free, which is an excellent album as well as We're Only In It For The Money. This album is Frank's mocking of The hippies which is one of my favorites.

The Mothers of Invention were very popular among the Underground L.A. scene at the time. Their crazy stage antics attracted many Freaks of the time. A time when some very wacky antics was being performed on stage was when Mark Volman and Howard Kaylan of The Turtles were in The Mothers. The highlight of their career with the Mothers is documented on Live At The Fillmore East June 1971 .

In 1969 Frank released his first solo album (Free of The Mothers) called Hot Rats. This album is considered the first Jazz Fusion album and it is without a doubt one of my favorite albums of all time. This album has a great set of musicians on it including Captain Beefheart (Did I mention he was a childhood friend of Frank's) and Ian Underwood. This is the album that even people who hate Frank Zappa can appreciate. If there is ONLY ONE Frank Zappa album that you ever consider buying BUY THIS ONE.

Frank went through some albums of some significant importance throughout the 70s. Some of these include Apostrophe(') (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198773) (His Highest Selling album that reached #10 on the charts), Over-nite Sensation (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3819794#post3819794), and One Size Fits All. These are some great albums that really brought him to popularity in the 70s. They are also the ones that labeled him as a musician who used toilet humor in a lot of his material.

On an unrelated note, One time Frank Zappa was put in Jail for conspiracy to commit pornography. A woman and him created an audio sex tape of fake grunting and random noises which was given to a cop. Frank spent 10 days in Jail for this. Also, one time he and his band were going to play a show in some small town where the cops weren't too fond of Rock Music. Well, when Frank got to the city and was walking on the street he was arrested for Vagrancy. The cop tried to hold him in jail until after the scheduled concert was over but one of his bandmates came and bailed him out and they went and played the show. Just a sidenote on some things that happened to him.

Frank Zappa's band wasn't always filled with a bunch of freaks. His band over the years actually had a great number of musicians who went on to become very popular. These people include Lowell George and Roy Estrada (Founders of Little Feat), Terry Bozio, Adrian Belew, and one of the most heard of on these forums Steve Vai.

Throughout his entire career critics told him that neither him nor his band had any Commercial Potential. When The Mothers of Invention released their doo wop tribute album Cruisin' With Ruben and The Jets, a Philadelphia disc jockey began to play the record on the radio a lot. Once he found out he was playing the Mothers of Invention he immediately stopped playing it. This can give you an idea of the kind of view that was held of the band at that point.

Frank Zappa toured extensively from the time The Mothers were formed all of the way up until 1991 when he was diagnosed with prostate cancer(minus the time he spent in a wheelchair after a fan knocked him off of the stage during a concert in Europe, the depth of his voice was lowered 1/3 after the accident). Frank fought off prostate cancer until December 4, 1993 when he passed away at the age of 52. He was inducted into the Rock & Roll hall of fame posthumously in 1995. There is no artist I know that has created as much material as Frank Zappa has. He has released over 80 albums and his wife Gail is continuing to find work in his studio that is still being released to this day. He has made a very large contribution to the Development of Music in the Twentieth Century.

Some of my favorite Frank Zappa albums include:

Freak Out! (1966)
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Favorite Tracks: Any Way the Wind Blows, You didn;t try to call me, and Hungry Freaks Daddy!

We're Only In It For The Money (1968)
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Favorite Tracks: Concentration Moon and Let's Make The Water Turn Black

Hot Rats (1969)
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Favorite Tracks: Every Song

Weasels Ripped My Flesh (1970)
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Favorite Tracks: Toads of The Short Forest, My Guitar wants to kill your mama, and The Orange County Lumber Truck

Chunga's Revenge (1970)
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Favorite Tracks: Transylvania Boogie, Twenty Small Cigars, and Chunga's Revenge

Live at the Fillmore East June 1971 (1971)
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Favorite Tracks: The Mud Shark, Happy Together, and Peaches en Regalia

Over-nite Sensation (1973)
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Favorite Tracks: Camarillo Brillo, I'm The Slime, and Montana







Rest In Peace Frank.........
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Frank Zappa [1940-1993]

Kaden
10-14-2004, 06:39 PM
Awesome. I've heard one song of his and hated it, but I really want to get into him.

Dark Hero
10-14-2004, 06:41 PM
Awesome. I've heard one song of his and hated it, but I really want to get into him.

Have you heard Catholic Girls? Or Willie the Pimp?

Zappa
10-14-2004, 09:38 PM
Cool. You didn't really cover any of his work after 1975, but nobody's perfect. :)

YDload
10-15-2004, 12:35 AM
My roommate was playing "Joe's Garage" and I was really impressed at his composition skills. Also, he guest starred on "Ren and Stimpy" as the voice of the Pope.

sum1soiledMyBongos
10-15-2004, 01:52 AM
My roommate was playing "Joe's Garage" and I was really impressed at his composition skills. Also, he guest starred on "Ren and Stimpy" as the voice of the Pope.
I did not know that. I can imagine though, he always seemed very religious :lol:
I did see him in some short fairytale movie though, he played a hunchback.


Frank Zappa is one of the great geniuses of the 20th century.

Kingadamx
10-15-2004, 06:17 AM
Cool. You didn't really cover any of his work after 1975, but nobody's perfect. :)
Yeah, I don't really have any of his work after 1975. There is just so much more that I could have said but I just wanted to give everyone a basic idea of how he got started and about his earlier work. I guess I could have gone through the eighties but I wouldn't really be able to give anyone an idea of how his work was so I decided not to. Maybe I'll add some more to it after I buy Joe's Garage Acts I,II, and III.

dans107
10-15-2004, 06:33 AM
Great FA....but it wasn't your turn.

joshmay
10-15-2004, 09:39 AM
good job. try to follow the FA posting rules from now on, though. just a friendly piece of advice :)



you did a great job. the man was indeed a genius, though i personally dont enjoy his music.

made_of_stone
10-15-2004, 11:18 AM
The only Zappa I've heard is the Uncle Meat album which is pretty trippy, but I never really got into it as it's not so much a rock album, but a soundtrack to a film he never completed. I would like to hear some of his albums which aren't really as concept based though.

GurS
10-15-2004, 11:27 AM
i didn't know he was dead.... :upset:

Distorted Vision
10-15-2004, 12:25 PM
That was pretty good. He is one of the most prolific composers ever though, and you passed over quite a lot of detail of his later stuff. Anyhow, I liked it. He was a great man.

On a sidenote, my favourite Zappa album is One Size Fits All.

Kingadamx
10-15-2004, 12:57 PM
Yeah I don't know the FA posting rules. Where are they listed?

dans107
10-15-2004, 01:37 PM
The only real rule is you have to request in the previous FA thread to do the next FA.

Don't worry about it though, and like I said, great FA.

Kaden
10-15-2004, 06:41 PM
Have you heard Catholic Girls? Or Willie the Pimp?
No, I only heard Wowie Zowie.

br3ad_man
10-15-2004, 07:10 PM
Who was supposed to be doing this one?


Excellent FA by the way :)

Son of Skywalker
10-15-2004, 10:32 PM
You did Zappa justice! But you should cover more stuff.

RIPJoeStrummer
10-15-2004, 11:56 PM
Who was supposed to be doing this one?


Excellent FA by the way :)
That would have been me.

I was planning on posting it saturday but umm I guess I'll wait a couple weeks...

RIPJoeStrummer
10-15-2004, 11:57 PM
Oh by the way great FA, I really need to check out more Zappa, haven't heard much.

Kingadamx
10-16-2004, 07:55 AM
^^Sorry About stealing your turn.

RIPJoeStrummer
10-16-2004, 08:22 AM
Don't worry about it, I'll post in a week or two. :thumb:

asdf
10-16-2004, 09:36 AM
My roommate was playing "Joe's Garage" and I was really impressed at his composition skills. Also, he guest starred on "Ren and Stimpy" as the voice of the Pope.
When it first aired it said pope in the credits, but afterwards it said "man in the pointy hat"

Anyway, I've been a Zappa fan all my life. His music has been forced onto me by my parents, and I'm very glad. I know so much Zappa trivia it's insanity. Reading that was like reading my 8th grade report I did on zappa, except you added more random facts and less about the music.
My favorite album is One Size Fits All. I know that even in 15 years of listening to Zappa, I have not heard it all, even though my dad has a full Zappa collection on vinyl.

Every year we have a Zappa party on Frank's birthday. We have a Zappa trivia contest with prizes of zappa shirts/book/stuff like that. One year we ordered Shirts and other Zappa things from the website, and my mom emailed about why we're buying all this stuff.
Gail Zappa thought that the Zappa party was such a cool idea, that she actually called are house during the party. My mom talked to her for over an hour. It was very very exciting.
Every year we also invite cal shankle(sp?) who did Zappa's album covers. He always declines though, saying he's too busy.

Happymeal
10-16-2004, 09:45 AM
I used to hate jazz a few years ago 'cause of my dad, but now maybe I'll give him(Zappa) a try.

Son of Skywalker
10-16-2004, 10:01 AM
Zappa, you don't see musicians like him much anymore these days.

Kingadamx
10-16-2004, 10:43 AM
except you added more random facts and less about the music.


Yeah, I guess I had a lot of weak points in my Featured Artist post, but I would think that for most of the people who don't listen to him it would be best if they checked out one of his albums for themselves. But thank you for the comments.

Also, another great zappa starting point would be a DVD recently released called Baby Snakes. I picked it up in Best Buy for $14.99. It is a 3 hour zappa film with some great music on it.

MassaHuang
10-16-2004, 09:51 PM
I love zappa and every piece of his music. i am most impressed at the way he could improve every musician that went thru his band. He was innovative, fearless and a god among men. Greatest musician/composer in modern day rock hands down.

Zappa
10-18-2004, 12:41 AM
I love zappa and every piece of his music.

Even "Goblin Girl?" "Conehead?" "Sex?" How about the "Them Or Us" album? All that irrelevant crap on "Lost Episodes?"

Sure, he wrote a ton of great music, but there's no reason to make claims like this. He's written his fair share of stinkers, just like everyone else.

YDload
10-18-2004, 12:59 AM
It was probably just a bit of hyperbole on your eponym. Hyperbole is the worst literary convention in the history of human civilization.

Zappa
10-18-2004, 05:27 AM
And hyperbolas suck, cause you have to graph asymptotes.

br3ad_man
10-18-2004, 06:24 AM
When it first aired it said pope in the credits, but afterwards it said "man in the pointy hat"

Anyway, I've been a Zappa fan all my life. His music has been forced onto me by my parents, and I'm very glad. I know so much Zappa trivia it's insanity. Reading that was like reading my 8th grade report I did on zappa, except you added more random facts and less about the music.
My favorite album is One Size Fits All. I know that even in 15 years of listening to Zappa, I have not heard it all, even though my dad has a full Zappa collection on vinyl.

Every year we have a Zappa party on Frank's birthday. We have a Zappa trivia contest with prizes of zappa shirts/book/stuff like that. One year we ordered Shirts and other Zappa things from the website, and my mom emailed about why we're buying all this stuff.
Gail Zappa thought that the Zappa party was such a cool idea, that she actually called are house during the party. My mom talked to her for over an hour. It was very very exciting.
Every year we also invite cal shankle(sp?) who did Zappa's album covers. He always declines though, saying he's too busy.

Now that is cool :cool:

MassaHuang
10-20-2004, 08:46 PM
Even "Goblin Girl?" "Conehead?" "Sex?" How about the "Them Or Us" album? All that irrelevant crap on "Lost Episodes?"

Sure, he wrote a ton of great music, but there's no reason to make claims like this. He's written his fair share of stinkers, just like everyone else.


How about i do like conehead and goblin girl, sex isnt my favorite but i dont think it was horrible. i thought all of his stuff was artistic and had its own meaning to him and if it was good enough for him to produce then it is good enough for me. I was just saying i like the guy and his music and he is a profound musician/artisct, sorry for having an opinion that doesnt agree with yours.

Zappa
10-21-2004, 05:49 PM
I just get tired of people acting like he, or anyone else, can do no wrong. He was just a guy.

Mardy
10-22-2004, 12:09 PM
Best song: "Charva"

Brew
10-25-2004, 09:28 AM
My dad likes Frank Zappa, and I must say I quite like some if his stuff.:)

But I didn't know he was dead.:(

thetwaz
10-26-2004, 11:04 AM
My Music Technology teacher's real big on him. He was telling me about the 'black page' arrangement, so called because it had so many notes in such a small space that the page looked almost like it was black.

He was also telling me that Frank would fire his musicians if they played a single wrong note.

Apparently, at one show he wasn't happy with the crowd response, so he had his band play the funeral march for the rest of the show while he sat staring darkly at the audience.

Most of that stuff's probably just rumours though.

Bartender
10-26-2004, 02:24 PM
I just recently got Freak Out!, and it's excellent. Previously I'd only heard Hungry Freaks, Daddy, and Titties and Beer, and liked them.

Good FA, too.

Bartender
10-27-2004, 05:33 PM
I just get tired of people acting like he, or anyone else, can do no wrong. He was just a guy.

Just thought, does that include Miles Davis?

DFelon204409
09-22-2008, 03:59 AM
Hey I just got The Grand Wazoo and I'm digging it. Hot Rats is my favorite. What is the next logical step down the path of jazz fusion, jazz form, improvisational business? So as to not double-recommend, here are the other full Zappa albums I have (thought frankly they probably aren't the best recs for what I'm looking for):
-Uncle Meat
-Zappa in New York
-Freakout
-Sheik Yerbouti
-We're Only in It for the Money
-Zoot Allures

horseman
09-22-2008, 06:14 AM
biggest bump ive ever seen

umm, im not sure whether this really fits what you want, but try Joe's Garage. The first act is fairly composed and planned, but in the last act especially and in act 2 it gets a lot more...drawn out, and a bit freer(?) i think. personally i like his compositions more than his free form stuff, i.e. i like little umbrella's more than the gumbo variations on Hot Rats, so the first half of Joe's Garage suits me better.

hopefully that helps, I only have Joe's Garage and Hot Rats though

DFelon204409
09-25-2008, 04:16 PM
Hmmm ya I only have Pt. I of Joe's Garage so I didn't want to mention it as a complete album. Thanks for the rec. Haha ya on the bump. I had to use my supermod powers to move it from the archive forum over to here.

SnackaryBinx
09-25-2008, 05:08 PM
I love bumping threads. I've never listened to Frank Zappa like a dumbass. What's the best albums here people?

horseman
09-26-2008, 06:07 AM
Hmmm ya I only have Pt. I of Joe's Garage so I didn't want to mention it as a complete album. Thanks for the rec. Haha ya on the bump. I had to use my supermod powers to move it from the archive forum over to here.

parts 2 and 3 do drag on for me, i dont think ive ever listened to the whole thing in one sitting or even the whole of act 2 or 3. from the bits i listened to it just descends into him soloing for minutes on end, which is the part of his music i dont like. but the first act is actually heaps, heaps good.

and snackary id probably try hot rats, it seems to be everyones most liked.

DFelon204409
10-13-2008, 04:14 AM
I love the soloing I'm on board. Thanks for recs.

jrowa001
10-13-2008, 09:39 AM
i just got into Frank Zappa when summer started this year. he is amazing. Hot Rats and Apostrophe are my favorite so far