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guitarded_chuck
12-01-2004, 02:50 PM
I'm getting the Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett DVD for x-mas hopefully.
Has anyone ever did Echoes with 2001 A Space Odessey (sp?) ? It's awesome. If you haven't done it, and are a fan of the Wizard of Oz with DSOTM, you'll definitly like this one way more. Simply start playing Echoes when the last part of 2001 comes on. I believe it's called "Jupiter and Beyond".
The story behind Echoes is Stanley Kubrick asked Pink Floyd to write a song for this part of the movie, to kind of go along with the last scene. (trippiest scene of all-time) Dave wanted to, Roger didn't, so it didn't happen. After seeing the movie and it's success, Roger regreted not writing a song. They wrote a song, not insync with the last scene (I don't think, but it goes along with it so perfectly that it's creepy). Thus, Echoes. :thumb:
Orange Fog
12-01-2004, 03:30 PM
Just say the Aussie PF, they were GREAT!!
Anyways, for those PF-guitar guys out there, the one at the end of 'Pigs (Three Different Ones)' is really good, I suggest you check it out. :thumb:
PinkFloyd
12-01-2004, 04:14 PM
Do you mean the Australian Pink Floyd?
It's actually a different Floyd cover band. They've came here to play at local bars a few times. I don't think they've played as big as venues as the Australian Floyd.
DeusExMachina
12-01-2004, 05:13 PM
Should I buy that David Gilmour Acoustic Concert DVD?
Yes. Yes. Yes! YES! YEEESSSS!!!!! It's really really good.
Woodstock
12-01-2004, 05:29 PM
Yes. Yes. Yes! YES! YEEESSSS!!!!! It's really really good.
Ha, ok ok. What songs are featured though?
lunch998
12-01-2004, 08:21 PM
I'm getting The Wall DVD for Christmas as well! As well as the CD album of Ummagumma. So know I can find out what you guys are talking about with the live album. :p
I also want to get The Wall DVD, it looks awesome.
I also want to get The Wall DVD, it looks awesome.
Yea me too. It looks really cool....
I'm getting the Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett DVD for x-mas hopefully.
Has anyone ever did Echoes with 2001 A Space Odessey (sp?) ? It's awesome. If you haven't done it, and are a fan of the Wizard of Oz with DSOTM, you'll definitly like this one way more. Simply start playing Echoes when the last part of 2001 comes on. I believe it's called "Jupiter and Beyond".
The story behind Echoes is Stanley Kubrick asked Pink Floyd to write a song for this part of the movie, to kind of go along with the last scene. (trippiest scene of all-time) Dave wanted to, Roger didn't, so it didn't happen. After seeing the movie and it's success, Roger regreted not writing a song. They wrote a song, not insync with the last scene (I don't think, but it goes along with it so perfectly that it's creepy). Thus, Echoes. :thumb:
Really? I'll have to try that sometime. So, only Echoes works?
lunch998
12-01-2004, 08:24 PM
Yea me too. It looks really cool....
I've only seen short bits of it besides the video of ABItW 2, but it looks like it will freak me out.
ledfloyd_fan
12-01-2004, 08:43 PM
I've just discovered the awesomeness that is Not Now John. Amazing song-I'd never really given The Final Cut a fair chance before. I am also listening to Obscured by Clouds more now-very good album.
DeusExMachina
12-02-2004, 03:42 PM
I also want to get The Wall DVD, it looks awesome.
The Wall DVD is totally awesome. You should get it.
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 03:46 PM
The Wall DVD is totally awesome. You should get it.
What do people enjoy more. The Movie or the Album?
DeusExMachina
12-02-2004, 03:49 PM
Tough to say for me. The movie really helped my understanding of the album, and its pretty cool. However, they seriously **** up some of the songs in the movie (like Mother) Some of my friends prefer the movie, some the album. Maybe if you can find it at a video store, rent it, and then see if you wanna buy it?
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 04:01 PM
Tough to say for me. The movie really helped my understanding of the album, and its pretty cool. However, they seriously **** up some of the songs in the movie (like Mother) Some of my friends prefer the movie, some the album. Maybe if you can find it at a video store, rent it, and then see if you wanna buy it?
No, I've seen the movie I think its great I was just wondering what you thought.:)
+3kk!
12-02-2004, 06:36 PM
movie is nice......the abulm comes quite incomplete without it
DeusExMachina
12-02-2004, 06:36 PM
Oh... sorry, misunderstood you. I dunno. They're really different, so its hard to compare. I mean, from a purely musical standpoint, the album is better. But the movie does have the whole visual aspect as a head start.
Permanent Solution
12-02-2004, 06:39 PM
Oh... sorry, misunderstood you. I dunno. They're really different, so its hard to compare. I mean, from a purely musical standpoint, the album is better. But the movie does have the whole visual aspect as a head start.
I like the extra tracking they added to the movie as well.
lunch998
12-02-2004, 06:47 PM
I've just discovered the awesomeness that is Not Now John. Amazing song-I'd never really given The Final Cut a fair chance before. I am also listening to Obscured by Clouds more now-very good album.
The first 2 songs on Obscured by Clouds are great.
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 07:09 PM
Oh... sorry, misunderstood you. I dunno. They're really different, so its hard to compare. I mean, from a purely musical standpoint, the album is better. But the movie does have the whole visual aspect as a head start.
Yeah that's true.
Also in the movie Bob Geldof sings In the Flesh? and In the Flesh
DeusExMachina
12-02-2004, 07:15 PM
Yeah. Mother was absolutely butchered in the movie, though.
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 07:22 PM
Yeah. Mother was absolutely butchered in the movie, though.
Yeah.
Too bad.
They also added in When the Tigers broke free to the movie and its on the Final Cut,.
DeusExMachina
12-02-2004, 07:24 PM
I don't raelly like When the Tigers Broke Free. Not a huge fan of The Final Cut for the most part.
lunch998
12-02-2004, 07:38 PM
I have not heard much of the Final Cut or the Division Bell. I hear mixed things about them, so what are you opinions?
Lateralias
12-02-2004, 07:55 PM
What do people enjoy more. The Movie or the Album?
Well the movie has that one extra song after Empty Spaces that I really like but is not on the album, but then doesn't the Album have a few songs that the DVD doesn't contain as well? Well, either way, their both essential for the Pink Floyd fan. :)
I Am Vikingcore
12-02-2004, 08:21 PM
Time to pretend I know what I'm talking about, the movie is more artistically appealing...
PinkFloyd
12-02-2004, 08:27 PM
Who cought PF Off The Record? Uncle Joe Benson does OTR on many rock stations throughout North America (maybe europe). Anyways I cought them on it on my rock station last night (Chom 97.7) it was very interesting.
Although they devoted 45 minutes of an hour the The Wall and like one sentence to WYWH and Animals. :sad:
SpiralEyes77
12-02-2004, 09:06 PM
^^ I think cause its The Wall's 25 anniversary. WYWH and especially Animals far surpass the wall imo.
Permanent Solution
12-02-2004, 09:16 PM
I have not heard much of the Final Cut or the Division Bell. I hear mixed things about them, so what are you opinions?
Fnal Cut is pretty good if you like the wall. Buy the division bell, you won't regret it.
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 09:19 PM
What about Momentary lapse of Reason.
I havent heard it.:(
Johnny B. Good
12-02-2004, 09:20 PM
Fnal Cut is pretty good if you like the wall. Buy the division bell, you won't regret it.
The division bell is really good and so is a momentary lapse of reason
Permanent Solution
12-02-2004, 09:21 PM
Everything they did is good, but AMLOR isn't as fantastic as other stuff.
Magicaltroll
12-02-2004, 09:23 PM
i didnt like a momentary lapse in reason... it was weird for me
Johnny B. Good
12-02-2004, 09:27 PM
It was probably different because w/out Waters, David Gilmour got to do whatever the hell he felt like doing
the psychedelic sound
12-02-2004, 09:40 PM
The Gilmour sound is much better than the Waters sound IMO...The Wall (a la waters sound just did not seem floydian. Meddle is the floyd sound. :)
Kingofdudes
12-02-2004, 10:00 PM
Thing is, Gilmour has never been as strong of a songwriter as Roger. But when it comes to the musical aspect Gilmour > Roger, every time.
Broken Arrow
12-02-2004, 10:11 PM
Thing is, Gilmour has never been as strong of a songwriter as Roger. But when it comes to the musical aspect Gilmour > Roger, every time.
I agree, Gilmour lacks in writing.
jamesclelland
12-03-2004, 12:55 PM
I picked up the Live in Pompeii, and wow. if you havent heard it, buy it. one of these days is badas*, echoes is my favorite. they added some cgi and made it much more of a stoner video than ever before.
abdab67
12-03-2004, 08:29 PM
In my opinion the most haunting Pink Floyd song has got to be Jugband Blues. Basically Syd singing about being schizo for a few minutes.
MustkillLois6712
12-03-2004, 10:31 PM
how exaclty does the wizard of oz with DSOTM work?
Broken Arrow
12-03-2004, 10:34 PM
how exaclty does the wizard of oz with DSOTM work?
I personaly havent done it but you are supposed to start DSOTM when the Lion roars for the thrird time or something.
MustkillLois6712
12-03-2004, 10:40 PM
ok thx. i just found DSOTM in my dad's cd cabinet. so i figured what the hell ill try it out
Woodstock
12-03-2004, 10:41 PM
how exaclty does the wizard of oz with DSOTM work?
On the third roar of the MGM lion, you start the album. I think.
Roin McDink
12-03-2004, 10:44 PM
i use to be scared to listen to pink floyd because all i listened to was the begginings of all the songs in dsotm
MetalpunKNinjA
12-03-2004, 10:57 PM
If you can hear this, you are dying.
MustkillLois6712
12-03-2004, 11:26 PM
*gasp* GIR!!!
...sorry off topic
I was recently having a discussion with somebody about pink floyd. He swore blind that pink floyd were an "old school punk band". Now usually I tend not to worry about labels as they tend to carry images with them and make music more of an elitist club than something for the enjoyment of the masses, but this statement confused me. To me pink floyd had always been prog rock, seemingly an almost complete opposite to anything punk. I asked him in what way he felt they were a punk band, but he seemed to think the answer was far to obvious to bother repeating to me, and then directed me here, telling me I'd learn something.
Now I don't consider myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but since I first heard my dad's copy of DSoTM so many years ago I've been getting my ears into everything of theirs I could find, but apparently I'm missing something. So, have I just missed an entire collection of little known pink floyd punk, or am I just so ignorant that I haven't realised I was listening to punk all these years?
Permanent Solution
12-04-2004, 01:11 AM
I was recently having a discussion with somebody about pink floyd. He swore blind that pink floyd were an "old school punk band". Now usually I tend not to worry about labels as they tend to carry images with them and make music more of an elitist club than something for the enjoyment of the masses, but this statement confused me. To me pink floyd had always been prog rock, seemingly an almost complete opposite to anything punk. I asked him in what way he felt they were a punk band, but he seemed to think the answer was far to obvious to bother repeating to me, and then directed me here, telling me I'd learn something.
Now I don't consider myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but since I first heard my dad's copy of DSoTM so many years ago I've been getting my ears into everything of theirs I could find, but apparently I'm missing something. So, have I just missed an entire collection of little known pink floyd punk, or am I just so ignorant that I haven't realised I was listening to punk all these years?
Your friend is a dunce. He pointed you here to prove himself wrong I guess.
Your friend is a dunce. He pointed you here to prove himself wrong I guess.
not friends ;P
can anyone here see any form of old school punk in pink floyd? I tried, I can't.
not friends ;P
can anyone here see any form of old school punk in pink floyd? I tried, I can't.
Maybe in some of Gilmour's, and Water's bridges... such as that short, funky riff in Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2
hypocracy hater
12-04-2004, 08:39 AM
Barrett is so UNDERtrated, IMO
lunch998
12-04-2004, 08:42 AM
Don't worry about him, your true friends won't say that Pink Floyd is punk.
Kingofdudes
12-04-2004, 11:22 AM
Maybe in some of Gilmour's, and Water's bridges... such as that short, funky riff in Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2
:lol: That riff is actually influenced by disco
Lateralias
12-04-2004, 11:43 AM
If you can hear this, you are dying.
Hey, that can be pretty scary if you're not expecting it... :upset:
Nate22
12-04-2004, 12:39 PM
I just got into Pink Floyd and they're awesome. I am looking for some more of their good songs though. Ones I know already are Dark Side of the Moon, Another Brick in the wall, and Comfortably Numb. What are some other good ones?
magicbus
12-04-2004, 12:41 PM
Dark Side of the Moon is an album not a song.
And I love that ABITW pt 2 riff. Especially on the bridge pickup. I've been trying forever to get tone like Gilmours on SOYCD, but my guitar blows. Can't wait till I get that strat.
Nate22
12-04-2004, 12:54 PM
What is that song that has the lyrics "dark side of the moon" in it then? And it starts out saying the lunatic is on the grass.
Woodstock
12-04-2004, 12:58 PM
What is that song that has the lyrics "dark side of the moon" in it then? And it starts out saying the lunatic is on the grass.
Brain Damage.
the mighty zep
12-04-2004, 01:17 PM
Dark Side of the Moon is an album not a song.
And I love that ABITW pt 2 riff. Especially on the bridge pickup. I've been trying forever to get tone like Gilmours on SOYCD, but my guitar blows. Can't wait till I get that strat.
Well well, of course like all Floyd songs, thats not just the guitar making that sound...youve got a ton of effects
Compressor
Overdrive mid gain
Chorus
Phaser
Delay w/ low feedback
Reverb
Thats all the efects he uses for just the intro solo, but i dont know what their set on or what the tone on his guitar is set on. But still, its an incredible sound.
Lateralias
12-04-2004, 01:43 PM
Well well, of course like all Floyd songs, thats not just the guitar making that sound...youve got a ton of effects
Compressor
Overdrive mid gain
Chorus
Phaser
Delay w/ low feedback
Reverb
Thats all the efects he uses for just the intro solo, but i dont know what their set on or what the tone on his guitar is set on. But still, its an incredible sound.
David Gilmour is a master at using his effects very well, alot of the guitar on Animals has cool effects too. :)
Well, it looks like two discussions have cropped up in the forum about Pink Floyd. I'm posting the links, but please try to discuss them in here, the official thread, rather than there, the illegal thread.
Philosophy of Dark Side Of The Moon (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272387)
The Wall's Backup Singers (Those Kids) (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273069)
Now, I know I have never pushed for this to be the sole place for PF discussion on MX, but I think since we are official, I will try to keep it all in here. So, I will be happy to discuss these things, just I will discuss them in here.
DeusExMachina
12-05-2004, 03:47 PM
I was recently having a discussion with somebody about pink floyd. He swore blind that pink floyd were an "old school punk band". Now usually I tend not to worry about labels as they tend to carry images with them and make music more of an elitist club than something for the enjoyment of the masses, but this statement confused me. To me pink floyd had always been prog rock, seemingly an almost complete opposite to anything punk. I asked him in what way he felt they were a punk band, but he seemed to think the answer was far to obvious to bother repeating to me, and then directed me here, telling me I'd learn something.
Now I don't consider myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, but since I first heard my dad's copy of DSoTM so many years ago I've been getting my ears into everything of theirs I could find, but apparently I'm missing something. So, have I just missed an entire collection of little known pink floyd punk, or am I just so ignorant that I haven't realised I was listening to punk all these years?
Remember kids, friends don't let friends call Pink Floyd punk!
DeusExMachina
12-05-2004, 03:49 PM
Well, it looks like two discussions have cropped up in the forum about Pink Floyd. I'm posting the links, but please try to discuss them in here, the official thread, rather than there, the illegal thread.
Philosophy of Dark Side Of The Moon (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272387)
The Wall's Backup Singers (Those Kids) (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273069)
Now, I know I have never pushed for this to be the sole place for PF discussion on MX, but I think since we are official, I will try to keep it all in here. So, I will be happy to discuss these things, just I will discuss them in here.
Agreed. This is the official Pink Floyd thread, all Pink Floyd discussion should go here.
On another note, VOTE FOR SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND IN THE POLL!!!!
almostangus
12-05-2004, 04:00 PM
:evil: im listening to the wall right now
almostangus
12-05-2004, 04:01 PM
hello bros?
Rusher28
12-05-2004, 04:49 PM
I just wanna say that Pink Floyd is the best band EVER!!!
DeusExMachina
12-05-2004, 08:43 PM
This thread is not as lively as it used to be... tis sad. Has anyone seen that one animated movie that Roger Waters did the music for?
Distant Echoes
12-05-2004, 09:06 PM
Agreed. This is the official Pink Floyd thread, all Pink Floyd discussion should go here.
On another note, VOTE FOR SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND IN THE POLL!!!!
better watch what you say...last time i said to vote for a floyd song i got flamed. But seriously...Shine on isnt doing as good as i had expected. Of course i voted for it, but its still tied for fourth it think. I think thats gonna be the next song i learn on guitar...after i finish Dark Side of the moon, and get the hundreds of dollars in effects he uses for JUST THE INTRO SOLO. its gonne be hell.
Im sortta debating....wether to spend this life either getting money for the effects or learning the songs :lol:
but as long as im posting in this thread, what do you guys think of the Live in Pompeii DVD. I wanna get it for xmas, so any thoughts would help.
bennyl
12-05-2004, 09:11 PM
but as long as im posting in this thread, what do you guys think of the Live in Pompeii DVD. I wanna get it for xmas, so any thoughts would help.
I got the directors cut. Its SOOOOOOOOOOO good. I can't stress how good it is. The directors cut has interviews as opposed to the normal one, and it has a LOT of interviews. They do all the stuff so well on it. Daves echos solo is was better than the Meddle one, and careful with that axe eugene is so amazing. get the DVD.
and super floyd trivia: where does the name Eugene in careful with that axe eugene come from?
PinkFloyd
12-05-2004, 10:37 PM
Is it just me or do you appreciate things ten times more when you hear it on the radio?
I was driving in my car with my friends today and all of a sudden the DJ comes on and starts talking about the Wall and the 25th an. Anyways he plays the rare clip of Pigs On The Wing when Waters gets pissed off and spits on a fan (in Montreal, where I live). I'm like "Holy **** they're actually playing this."
Then they actually played the whole album on the radio. I mean, hearing The Thin Ice on a radio station was deffinately a new experience. At home when I listen to it, I get the same feeling. But for some reason when I heard it on the radio, the album seemed so much more alive. I guess it's because I never expected that in 1,000,000 years. It was so cool to hear them play ABITWP1 then go into HDOUL instead of just going into ABITWP2. That album is so genius.
Kingofdudes
12-05-2004, 10:49 PM
You have an awesome radio station man.
Anyone like the new avatar?
Is it just me or do you appreciate things ten times more when you hear it on the radio?
I was driving in my car with my friends today and all of a sudden the DJ comes on and starts talking about the Wall and the 25th an. Anyways he plays the rare clip of Pigs On The Wing when Waters gets pissed off and spits on a fan (in Montreal, where I live). I'm like "Holy **** they're actually playing this."
Then they actually played the whole album on the radio. I mean, hearing The Thin Ice on a radio station was deffinately a new experience. At home when I listen to it, I get the same feeling. But for some reason when I heard it on the radio, the album seemed so much more alive. I guess it's because I never expected that in 1,000,000 years. It was so cool to hear them play ABITWP1 then go into HDOUL instead of just going into ABITWP2. That album is so genius.
I can agree to that. Comfortably Numb came on the radio at my girlfriend's work, while I was in there talking to her, and I went absolutely ballistic. I was singing along, in between begging her to turn it up. Luckily she likes Floyd as much as me, so between us we had an awesome rendition going along. :thumb:
You have an awesome radio station man.
Anyone like the new avatar?
Gilmour looks like a pedophile now, mate.
Permanent Solution
12-06-2004, 12:44 AM
Gilmour looks like a pedophile now, mate.
Santa is a pedophile, so yes, he does.
The Lorax, however, looks pimp.
DeusExMachina
12-06-2004, 02:39 PM
I say, everyone who is voting for Pink Floyd in the final poll, should vote for the same song. I suggest Comfortably Numb, but I don't remember what the third one was (I know Time made it.)
lunch998
12-06-2004, 02:43 PM
Santa is a pedophile, so yes, he does.
The Lorax, however, looks pimp.
Lorax>all.
Kingofdudes
12-06-2004, 03:31 PM
Comfortably Numb, Time and Money are all through. I'll probably vote for Comfortably Numb. :o
I will too.
PinkFloyd
12-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Where's this poll thing? I'd so vote for Dogs.
Hmmm... Well, Comfortably Numb is very good. But will it get the noob vote?
Kingofdudes
12-06-2004, 03:38 PM
Where's this poll thing? I'd so vote for Dogs.
Didnt make it past round 1 :/
Otherside
12-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Didnt make it past round 1 :/
:upset:
DeusExMachina
12-06-2004, 06:39 PM
Hmmm... Well, Comfortably Numb is very good. But will it get the noob vote?
I dunno. I still say that we should all vote Comfortably Numb though. Gotta see Pink Floyd win one of these polls! *still bitter that Led Zeppelin won best classic rock band poll*
Well, it looks like I have to make a statement.
As the Founder of The Official Pink Floyd Thread I encourage everyone to vote Comfortably Numb regardless of whether you prefer Time or Money. Better to have a Floyd song win, then to have nothing.
And, we must push Stairway off the edge. Too many noob votes.
Zed_Leppelin
12-07-2004, 09:45 PM
HANDS DOWN BEST PINK FLOYD SONG:
Bike
PinkFloyd
12-07-2004, 09:48 PM
Didnt make it past round 1 :/
Poor Dogs, never gets a break.
DeusExMachina
12-07-2004, 10:26 PM
Well, it looks like I have to make a statement.
As the Founder of The Official Pink Floyd Thread I encourage everyone to vote Comfortably Numb regardless of whether you prefer Time or Money. Better to have a Floyd song win, then to have nothing.
And, we must push Stairway off the edge. Too many noob votes.
Thank you! unfortunately, it looks like its too late. 18 votes have already gone to Time and Money. Without those, Comfortably Numb is in 4th place (there's a tie for second.) With those, Comfortably Numb would be in 1st place.... **** fools.
When will people learn! :eek:
harps2cool
12-07-2004, 10:39 PM
Pink Floyd is amazing....no other band can put so much feeling and awesome grooviness into a song. The second solo in Comfortably Numb gives me shivers everytime i hear it....same with Time and Have a Cigar and Shine on you Crazy Diamond part 1.
I have seen the Pink Floyd laser show twice and it is the craziest experience. They start it out w/ the wizard of oz and dark side of the moon, it totally matches up man :thumb:
I like the stuff with Roger Waters as the leader the best, though i havent heard much of the Syd Barrett stuff. I've seen a video of Time live when Gilmour did it, and it just isnt the same, he's not as smooth a vocallist ya know?
Kingofdudes
12-08-2004, 06:50 AM
I've seen a video of Time live when Gilmour did it, and it just isnt the same, he's not as smooth a vocallist ya know?
Wrong, wrong, wrong. David has a great voice, and can create amazing harmonies with multi-tracks. You also cant always get the same sound live.
BTW Time (Mason, Waters, Wright, Gilmour)
[05:54] Vocals by Gilmour and Wright.
Gilmour has always done vocals on the track.
Zed_Leppelin
12-08-2004, 11:11 AM
Waters is a control freak, Gilmour is the man!
DeusExMachina
12-08-2004, 04:52 PM
Agree. Gilmour owns Waters.
Gilmour is a more melodic singer than Waters, although Waters has the edge when it comes to range.
And in terms of talent, Gilmour > Waters in songwriting and musicianship.
Meanwhile, minutes silence please, to mourn the loss of three Floyd songs from the ultimate band poll. :upset:
jerryonly cure45
12-08-2004, 05:10 PM
OK, let me start out by saying that Pink Floyd is by far the absolute best band in the world. I LLLOOOOVVVEEE Pink Floyd. And as far as the eerie lyrics go, I'd have to say "The Great Gig in the Sky". Why? Listen really closely 3:33 into the song and you can hear a girl whisper, "If you can hear this whisper, you're dying." AHH. It's so freaky.
jerryonly cure45
12-08-2004, 05:12 PM
And as far as The Dark Side of the Moon matching up with the Wizard of Oz, it's true. I can't count how many times I've done it haha. And the CD ends half way through and I figured out that Animals is the second half of that movie. It's mad. I love it.
Really? So do you start Animals immeadiately when DSOTM ends?
Woodstock
12-08-2004, 06:27 PM
OK, let me start out by saying that Pink Floyd is by far the absolute best band in the world. I LLLOOOOVVVEEE Pink Floyd. And as far as the eerie lyrics go, I'd have to say "The Great Gig in the Sky". Why? Listen really closely 3:33 into the song and you can hear a girl whisper, "If you can hear this whisper, you're dying." AHH. It's so freaky.
Woah, I just tried that and she sounds like she's saying "If you hear this silent whisper, then you're dying".
magicbus
12-08-2004, 06:39 PM
And as far as the eerie lyrics go, I'd have to say "The Great Gig in the Sky". Why? Listen really closely 3:33 into the song and you can hear a girl whisper, "If you can hear this whisper, you're dying." AHH. It's so freaky.
It says "I never said I was afraid of dying."
End of story.
/and old news.
lunch998
12-08-2004, 06:40 PM
Really? So do you start Animals immeadiately when DSOTM ends?
It would be cool if that worked, but there are so many rumors about synchronizing Floyd albums with movies that it's hard for me to believe that.
Well, there is that.
And I shall devote my afternoon to determining exactly what that girl says.
lunch998
12-08-2004, 06:47 PM
Well, there is that.
And I shall devote my afternoon to determining exactly what that girl says.
You would. It could probably be found online somewhere, but I guess it's more rewarding to do it yourself. So good luck.
prsinthismutha
12-08-2004, 07:27 PM
i personally think that the most haunting lyrics from a floyd song for me are the lyrics to "Outside of the Wall" from The Wall album.
All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
Did anyone notice the little monologue at the beginning or Disk 1, and at the end of disk 2? If you run the end of disk 2 directly into the start of disk 1, David Gilmour cues in the band and asks "Isn't this where we came in?" Could this suggest that Pink's problems are a continuous cycle? I know that the first song of disk one is also rehashed with different lyrics later on Disk Two as Pink changes his attitude toward his fans and life......but could the hidden voice mean more than that? Any thoughts?
Hehe, if Animals is the second half of the movie, that would zwn ;)
DeusExMachina
12-08-2004, 09:54 PM
i personally think that the most haunting lyrics from a floyd song for me are the lyrics to "Outside of the Wall" from The Wall album.
All alone, or in two's,
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall.
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands.
The bleeding hearts and artists
Make their stand.
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall.
Did anyone notice the little monologue at the beginning or Disk 1, and at the end of disk 2? If you run the end of disk 2 directly into the start of disk 1, David Gilmour cues in the band and asks "Isn't this where we came in?" Could this suggest that Pink's problems are a continuous cycle? I know that the first song of disk one is also rehashed with different lyrics later on Disk Two as Pink changes his attitude toward his fans and life......but could the hidden voice mean more than that? Any thoughts?
I read a Pink Floyd biography. It just means that, even when the wall comes down, its just going to be built again, because our problems are here to say.
As for Great Gig in the Sky, she's saying "I never said I was afraid of dying" END OF STORY. In interviews, thats what they said. Listen closely, its very clear thats what she's saying.
i_am_theman_whosold_theworld
12-08-2004, 10:00 PM
oh man, the first time i threw my dad's old dark side of the moon album on the turn table, it blew my mind. It was just nothing less than amazing. (Soon after i took up sniffing things)
magicbus
12-09-2004, 12:24 PM
As for Great Gig in the Sky, she's saying "I never said I was afraid of dying" END OF STORY. In interviews, thats what they said. Listen closely, its very clear thats what she's saying.
I told you. :thumb:
I tried synching The Wizard of Oz with DSOTM a little while back. It doesn't really work. I could see some parts that relate to each other, but you have to try really hard to convince yourself that they're actually synched. Its fun to try though.
DeusExMachina
12-09-2004, 03:33 PM
Agreed. The synch is overrated.
PinkFloyd
12-09-2004, 04:31 PM
Gilmour is a more melodic singer than Waters, although Waters has the edge when it comes to range.
And in terms of talent, Gilmour > Waters in songwriting and musicianship.
Meanwhile, minutes silence please, to mourn the loss of three Floyd songs from the ultimate band poll. :upset:
In musidianship yes. But what do yoy mean exactly by songwritting? Lyrics included? If so, I believe it was Waters who wrote the tunes that made Gilmour famous.
In musidianship yes. But what do yoy mean exactly by songwritting? Lyrics included? If so, I believe it was Waters who wrote the tunes that made Gilmour famous.
Songwriting, as in music as well as lyrics.
Waters is a great lyricist, but lyrics are only part of the song.
lunch998
12-09-2004, 07:44 PM
To me, that's the final touch in the genius that is The Wall. It would be easy to think if you work your way through that album that things get better, with The Trial, and Outside The Wall...it would make sense that Pink escapes his troubles. It's just such a great end to the concept that his problems don't end, or change in any way, but simply go back to the start. There aren't many other bands that could have thought up something like that.
Yea that was amazing. A great way to end The Wall.
I was thinking today, what's everyone's favorite lyrics from The Wall? I love the middle verse in Hey You:
"But it was only fantasy,
The Wall was too high, as you can see,
No matter how he tried he could not break free.
And the worms ate into his brain."
magicbus
12-09-2004, 08:42 PM
:eek: The Wall cycle is genius. I never knew about that, I'm gonna try it right now. But that's such a good idea.
As for my favorite lyric, probably off of "The Thin Ice"
"Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice
Appears under your feet.
You slip out of your depth and out of your mind
With your fear flowing out behind you
As you claw the thin ice."
And the chilling solo that follows just makes it all the more better.
DeusExMachina
12-09-2004, 08:54 PM
The entire album is ****ing brilliant. But I love the lyrics to Mother. They're great. Especially that last line... "mother did it need to be so high?" It just sends chills down my spine.
magicbus
12-09-2004, 08:55 PM
++Oedipul complex
lunch998
12-09-2004, 08:59 PM
I find Another Brick In the Wall Part 3 to be underrated. Great lyrics.
bubba1403
12-09-2004, 09:04 PM
most haunting lyrics are to "when the tigers broke free, with those dark drums goin on, and his incredibly expressionable voice....
Kingofdudes
12-09-2004, 09:33 PM
In musidianship yes. But what do yoy mean exactly by songwritting? Lyrics included? If so, I believe it was Waters who wrote the tunes that made Gilmour famous.
Waters wrote the lyrics, but Gilmour added the musical soul to the songs.
Gilmour came up with the chord progression and melody to Comfortably Numb before Waters had the lyrics to it.
ABITW pt.2 would have just been plain old guitar strumming if Gilmour didnt add the disco feel to it.
Dogs is great lyrically, but Gilmours amazing guitar work made it amazing.
So basically, they complemented each other very well.
Damageplan_fan222
12-09-2004, 10:05 PM
Long live one of the best floyd Cds in history: Division Bell
Lateralias
12-09-2004, 10:32 PM
I find Another Brick In the Wall Part 3 to be underrated. Great lyrics.
I agree, most people just listen to 1 and 2, and completely overlook the ender to the ABITW series. I like how its agressive, and it fits perfect into movie too.
Lateralias
12-09-2004, 10:43 PM
Yea that was amazing. A great way to end The Wall.
I was thinking today, what's everyone's favorite lyrics from The Wall? I love the middle verse in Hey You:
"But it was only fantasy,
The Wall was too high, as you can see,
No matter how he tried he could not break free.
And the worms ate into his brain."
Oh wow, favorite lyrics from the near-perfect Floyd album... that's really hard...
Well, I think In The Flesh is a great opening song with lyrics that kinda drag you into the album, but for absolute favorite, I'd pick "Did, did, did, did you ever wonder why We had to run for shelter When the promise of a brave new world Unfurled beneath a clear blue sky" from Goodbye Blue Sky, it gives me the chills everytime.
Gossamer175
12-10-2004, 11:23 AM
In musidianship yes. But what do yoy mean exactly by songwritting? Lyrics included? If so, I believe it was Waters who wrote the tunes that made Gilmour famous.
If you ask me, the best songs were produced when Waters and Gilmour worked together. Towards the end of Roger's presence in the band, Gilmour somewhat lost control of what was going on. I guess right after Wish You Were Here, Animals was the start of the Waters takeover.
DeusExMachina
12-10-2004, 03:05 PM
Yeah, according to the biography I read, the fighting and megalomania of Waters started around 1975. So, around the time Wish You Were Here came out.
lunch998
12-10-2004, 03:09 PM
You can hear the drastic change in mood from WYWH to Animals, and then to the Wall. It was mainly the start of Water's dark, depressing lyrics and mood, because by about that time they were playing before huge arena audiences which Roger hated.
DeusExMachina
12-10-2004, 07:17 PM
Yeah. Waters was/is messed up. Brilliant, but I much prefer the personality of Gilmour.
Woodstock
12-10-2004, 07:24 PM
I like them both equally.
DeusExMachina
12-10-2004, 08:46 PM
The best was Nick Mason! The real musical genius behind Pink Floyd.
++Oedipul complex
Hardly.
Nick Mason the genius behind PF? :amaze:
guitarded_chuck
12-10-2004, 08:51 PM
I'd say Rick Wright was the musical genius of the band. But he didn't seem to contribute as much as the others, so it rarely shined threw. But some of the early songs he wrote during the transition years are great.
Have you ever heard Wright's solo stuff? Really amazing.
DeusExMachina
12-11-2004, 12:59 PM
Riva, weren't you going to get a gmail account and email me some of Wright's solo stuff...? *shakes fist* Oh, by the way, I was definitely kidding about the Nick Mason being the genius thing.
Kingofdudes
12-11-2004, 06:26 PM
Riva, weren't you going to get a gmail account and email me some of Wright's solo stuff...? *shakes fist* Oh, by the way, I was definitely kidding about the Nick Mason being the genius thing.
you were supposed to send some to me too :angry:
DeusExMachina
12-11-2004, 09:15 PM
I think we should start a riot until Riva sends the songs out.
G-Mail is on my **** list.
PinkFloyd
12-12-2004, 12:52 AM
Waters wrote the lyrics, but Gilmour added the musical soul to the songs.
Gilmour came up with the chord progression and melody to Comfortably Numb before Waters had the lyrics to it.
ABITW pt.2 would have just been plain old guitar strumming if Gilmour didnt add the disco feel to it.
Dogs is great lyrically, but Gilmours amazing guitar work made it amazing.
So basically, they complemented each other very well.
Obviously your a big Gilmour fan. I just value the lyrics more I guess.
Alright, for anyone who is still in the dark about DSOTM and Wizard Of Oz, you start the album at the third roar of the MGM lion at the beginning of the movie (preferably the special edition DVD).
TwItCh13
12-12-2004, 02:14 AM
Alright, for anyone who is still in the dark about DSOTM and Wizard Of Oz, you start the album at the third roar of the MGM lion at the beginning of the movie (preferably the special edition DVD).
And its supposed to sync how??
DeusExMachina
12-12-2004, 09:54 AM
Also, for anyone who thinks the sync was meant to work, let me set you right once and for all.
The band said they didn't plan it! NO ONE involved with the making of the album has even HINTED that it was planned. And if you think its some vast conspiracy, here's the final nail in the coffin. The sync doesn't even work with the VHS and the vinyl record! And considering there was no DVD or CD at the time, its IMPOSSIBLE for them to have planned it. Case closed.
Alright, for anyone who is still in the dark about DSOTM and Wizard Of Oz, you start the album at the third roar of the MGM lion at the beginning of the movie (preferably the special edition DVD).
Ooo, thankers :)
I believe there's also some DVD that plays them both, one out of each speaker if you have 2 speakers.
I know, but I am still sick of everyone who hears it
a) Posting it outside of this thread
b) Asking the same moronic questions.
I just had to post it, after that last thread in R&M.
DeusExMachina
12-12-2004, 08:56 PM
Is the Echoes/2001 synch any good?
magicbus
12-12-2004, 09:05 PM
Haven't tried that one. Might be cooler because Echoes is mostly instrumental so it'd compliment it nicely, rather than synch up. Unless I have no idea what you are talking about...
Kingofdudes
12-12-2004, 10:06 PM
Who do you guys think had the best solo career?
I really cant comment, since I have only heard Gilmour's solo stuff.
-Vote for Gilmour
guitrguy
12-12-2004, 10:08 PM
Who do you guys think had the best solo career?
I really cant comment, since I have only heard Gilmour's solo stuff.
-Vote for Guitrguy
I dunno, but from what i have heard of Gilmours and Waters i would choose Gilmour.
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-12-2004, 10:14 PM
I read this in a "music with references to literature" thread. Someone said that "Animals" was about George Orwell's novel [u] Animal Farm [u]. Is this true?
Awesome book, and awesome album.
guitrguy
12-12-2004, 10:16 PM
I read this in a "music with references to literature" thread. Someone said that "Animals" was about George Orwell's novel [u] Animal Farm [u]. Is this true?
Awesome book, and awesome album.
yes its true, yes it has been discussed before.
Is the Echoes/2001 synch any good?
Well, apparently, Waters was approached to make a song for the ending of the movie. He declined, but he and the band regretted the decision once the movie came out, and they saw how mind blowing it was.
So they made sure the keystone of their new album would be what the song for the ending of 2001 would have sounded like if they had written it.
I'm pretty sure that's how it went down.
Who do you guys think had the best solo career?
I really cant comment, since I have only heard Gilmour's solo stuff.
-Vote for HeavyRiva
Well, I have only heard Gilmour and Wright, but I think Gilmour has the more succesful career, although Wright certainly improved once he got out from under Waters' thumb.
Oh, and boys, I shall be trying my uni e-mail, rather than my gmail account, since gmail is so damned annoying.
appreciate_it
12-13-2004, 12:40 AM
Gilmour definatly.
Just on a topic that has probably been brought up before, how ever many times i listen to Com. Numb, and Thin Ice, i like it even more. I think they are so good. Just listening to different parts, and isolating the instruments when you hear it. ANyone feel the same about any Pink songs?
DeusExMachina
12-13-2004, 02:16 PM
Hmm... I heard something about that Echoes plannsed as the "end" of 2001, but I'm a little skeptical about it, since it was never mentioned in the biography I read, and because Echoes is built on 36 seperate ideas that were compiled into one song. Could still be true though.
On a side note, whats this about Vote Gilmour/Guitrguy/HeavyRiva for top R&M poster? I'm confused.
guitrguy
12-13-2004, 02:23 PM
Hmm... I heard something about that Echoes plannsed as the "end" of 2001, but I'm a little skeptical about it, since it was never mentioned in the biography I read, and because Echoes is built on 36 seperate ideas that were compiled into one song. Could still be true though.
On a side note, whats this about Vote Gilmour/Guitrguy/HeavyRiva for top R&M poster? I'm confused.
I haven't ever advertised my name, but gilmour has.
Oh where I edited the post, I was just joking.
magicbus
12-13-2004, 02:41 PM
I discovered this while reading about Animals last night. Might be of use.
http://www.ingsoc.com/waters/personal/animals.html
Yes, Brian and I only edited Aaron's post, because he is a advertising spam whore, and we aren't. :)
I see what you mean about the link, magicbus. Looks quite interesting.
Good to see you posting in here more often as well. :)
DeusExMachina
12-13-2004, 09:14 PM
The Sex Pistols weren't really all that politically charged, they just supported anarchy for shock value. Animals is a very political, "punk rock attitude" type of album. Reminds me somewhat of something The Clash would write.
magicbus
12-13-2004, 09:18 PM
Glad I could be of help. Riva, I added this to subscribed threads (originally only the cr thread), so I'll be checkin here all the time.
When you guys were talking about the 2001/Echoes synch, you meant just the song right? At the time, I kept thinking you meant synching Meddle, not just a single song.
MY favorite Wall lyric:
"There must be some mistake/I didn't mean to let them take away my soul/Am I too old?/Is it too late?"
I just like the entire presentation of that line in the song.
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-13-2004, 09:40 PM
I discovered this while reading about Animals last night. Might be of use.
http://www.ingsoc.com/waters/personal/animals.html
Thanks :thumb:
Even though it apparently isn't about one of my favorite books, it's still one of my favorite Pink Floyd albums.
DeusExMachina
12-13-2004, 09:47 PM
I think the funny thing about that link is the page is titled ingsoc.com. Not sure whether that is good or bad.
AdSEG
12-13-2004, 10:05 PM
Floyd kiks ***. im not sure wat the creepyest song is, but the dreamiest is prolbably julia dream on the echoes album, which is a hella good album. Stoner music all the way! (especailly if ur stoned)
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-13-2004, 10:27 PM
Floyd kiks ***. im not sure wat the creepyest song is, but the dreamiest is prolbably julia dream on the echoes album, which is a hella good album. Stoner music all the way! (especailly if ur stoned)
Creepiest song, I'd say "Dogs." Trippy.
The Echoes synch is for Echoes only. I'm pretty sure the rest of the album doesn't fit in.
And way to suck the enjoyment outta the song for me, Med. Now I'm going to feel depressed everytime I listen to it... :p
For me, the creepiest song is Waiting For The Worms.
I enjoy all of The Wall, from beginning to end. 'Tis a rich tapestry, with each thread as worthy as the last of attention and love.
Although I despise horror movies/thrillers, I love all forms of music, whether it be horrifying, angry or happy.
Gossamer175
12-14-2004, 11:29 AM
I'd have to say either The Trial or Flaming were the trippiest to me.
Perdoct
12-14-2004, 11:34 AM
Hey did you guys see Saturday Night Live The band did a re make of comfortablly numb that was bull I think my favorite part of the movie is waiting for the worms not for the song but for the animation as well
Gossamer175
12-14-2004, 11:43 AM
The freakiest part of the movie was when Goodbye Blue Sky plays. The whole image of the bird ripping the city out of the ground and the blood and gore underneath is just strange and somewhat disturbing.
DeusExMachina
12-14-2004, 04:25 PM
Med, how could you! I love that song. Is There Anybody Out There is is a gloomy song, but it's wonderful. I love it. The guitar playing is hauntingly beautiful and fits perfectly. Although I'd say the freakiest part of the movie in a lot of ways was when Pink shaved himself completely. Especially since that wasn't even scripted... Bob Geldof just got so into the character that he did it because he thought it felt "right." Apparently Syd Barrett's ex started crying when she saw that scene, because it reminded her so much of how Syd was.
guitarded_chuck
12-14-2004, 04:46 PM
The 2001/Echoes synch is the trippiest thing of all time. Theres a big story behind it too. But I already posted a big thing on it, so I won't get into it again.
Sad But True
12-14-2004, 04:47 PM
http://www.pinkfloydonline.com/echoes2001_synchs.html
guitarded_chuck
12-14-2004, 04:51 PM
^
I don't know about the interpretations. The song was in fact written to go along with this sequence of the movie, but it was just written enhance it. I think. Like I said, I posted the entire story on it awhile back. I might find it.
guitarded_chuck
12-14-2004, 04:52 PM
Well.. that wasn't too hard to find.
Has anyone ever did Echoes with 2001 A Space Odessey (sp?) ? It's awesome. If you haven't done it, and are a fan of the Wizard of Oz with DSOTM, you'll definitly like this one way more. Simply start playing Echoes when the last part of 2001 comes on. I believe it's called "Jupiter and Beyond".
The story behind Echoes is Stanley Kubrick asked Pink Floyd to write a song for this part of the movie, to kind of go along with the last scene. (trippiest scene of all-time) Dave wanted to, Roger didn't, so it didn't happen. After seeing the movie and it's success, Roger regreted not writing a song. They wrote a song, not insync with the last scene (I don't think, but it goes along with it so perfectly that it's creepy). Thus, Echoes. :thumb:
When do you start to play Echoes though?
*is to lazy to look for the answer himself*
guitarded_chuck
12-14-2004, 06:04 PM
When the scene "Jupiter and Beyond" starts, just start playing the song. You may not notice much in synch for a little bit, but once the intensity of the scene and the music picks up, it gets pretty crazy.
DeusExMachina
12-14-2004, 06:04 PM
Hmm... time for me to get a copy of 2001. I really wanna try this out.
Distant Echoes
12-14-2004, 06:08 PM
Sounds pretty interesting to me...ill try it if i have the chance. DSOTM worked well with The wizard of Oz...but id like to see this, even though ive never watched or had a clue what 2001 is about, but its not Floyd couldnt inform me about in a simple song
guitarded_chuck
12-14-2004, 06:09 PM
It's definitly worth it. Once you understand 2001, at least to an extent, (I don't think anyone fully understands it) it is an amazing movie as well. Kubrick was brilliant.
http://www.kubrick2001.com/
That's neat to watch to get a better understanding.
slaxdif
12-14-2004, 06:23 PM
I agree, Comfortably Numb sounds great live on Delicate Sound of Thunder. As far as the most haunting lyrics go, listen for subliminal messages, those will give you 20x the feeling.
DeusExMachina
12-14-2004, 06:25 PM
Watch 2001 before trying the synch. That movie is crazy. Apparently the book is really crazy too, but I haven't read it.
Distant Echoes
12-14-2004, 06:34 PM
well, ive seen up to the II part...pretty weird. Maybe Ill rent it next weekend or something. Any specific kind of edition to use? I know the Wizard of Oz is recomended the 50th anniversary DVD...but ill probably watch this one first.
Im guessing itll need to be muted, echoes will have to start at Jupiter and Beyond scene (whcih the DVD might specify), and hopefully wont have to be looped over and over again.
Im gonna go eat a Big Mac now, but i might check back to watch the rest of that weird clip. Its sorta hard to follow when its confusing enough as it is, but ive never seen the movie at all
DeusExMachina
12-14-2004, 06:35 PM
The movie is really really weird. I gotta rent it and try this out.
Does anyone know the concept for Wish You Were Here? I'm kind of picking up on a connection between the songs but i'm not exactly sure.
Does anyone know the concept for Wish You Were Here? I'm kind of picking up on a connection between the songs but i'm not exactly sure.
I never knew there was one, I read they were just about Syd and also how Roger started to disslike the music industry.
magicbus
12-14-2004, 06:55 PM
Basically what Med said. I noticed the Syd and Music Industry themes, but I'm not sure how they relate to each other.
Basically, the entire album is about the trials Syd went through.
Wish You Were Here and Shine On You Crazy Diamond were all about his mental health, and Welcome To The Machine and Have A Cigar are about the music industry compounding Syd's state of mind. Med has hit the nail right on the head.
magicbus
12-15-2004, 05:36 AM
I love Wish You Were Here. Definently my favorite album. The whole thing is so instrumentally and lyrically right, it just all fits together to create, in my opinion, Floyd's best album. And if for nothing else, it has Shine on You Crazy Diamond, which is my favorite song ot their's.
Well, although DSOTM or OBC are my favourite albums, my favourite song, right now at least, is easily Wish You Were Here. :thumb:
Permanent Solution
12-15-2004, 05:46 AM
My fav is still the wall :)
Never impressed by OBC so much :-/
master of guitars
12-15-2004, 05:48 AM
delicate sound of thunder ROCKS!!
Kingofdudes
12-15-2004, 06:53 AM
My WYWH album is all scratched up :(
pulse > DSoT
-Vote for Gilmour
FloHaake
12-15-2004, 09:12 AM
"Animals" will always be my favorite Floyd album.
guitrguy
12-15-2004, 10:07 AM
I love animals as well.
FloHaake
12-15-2004, 10:10 AM
Theres something about that album that cannot be touched by any other. Its just so good.
I can touch it. Meddle. I guess I'll just link to this thread (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277672).
magicbus
12-15-2004, 01:49 PM
My WYWH album is all scratched up :(
pulse > DSoT
-Vote for Gilmour
I horribly scratched up my WYWH album and I couldn't live without. I went and got a new one. Its the only cd I've ever bought two of. That's how much it rules.
:thumb:
DeusExMachina
12-15-2004, 02:19 PM
I can touch it. Meddle. I guess I'll just link to this thread (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277672).
All Pink Floyd discussion should go here. Don't mean to be a twit, but just trying to keep the mods happy.
According to the Pink Floyd biography I read, the theme behind Wish You Were Here is sort of, like, being isolated and alone in the world. For example, the people shaking hands. It's a really empty gesture, when you think about it. It's just formality. And while going through this formality, the man is burning inside, but he just hides it. Also, after Welcome To The Machine (I think) there's the door closing, and the sound of the party, which was also meant to give a sense of isolation, and really superficial connection with people. Contrary to popular belief, Wish You Were Here was not written directly as a tribute to Syd Barrett, although it applies to him remarkably well. It just applies to the general sense of being lost, adrift in the world. Shine On... is a direct tribute to Barrett, however.
guitarded_chuck
12-15-2004, 02:29 PM
Meddle and Animals are my favorites.
Like DeusEx said, WYWH wasn't completely based on Syd. Shine On is Water's tribute to Syd, saying how similar they really are, and how much he misses him. I don't know if the song WYWH was directed at Syd, but it could be. I think it could be said that Syd was a major influence to the theme of WYWH, not that the album is totally directed at him.
magicbus
12-15-2004, 03:04 PM
Very interesting points guys. DeusEx, what biography did you read?
Woodstock
12-15-2004, 03:17 PM
All Pink Floyd discussion should go here. Don't mean to be a twit, but just trying to keep the mods happy.
According to the Pink Floyd biography I read, the theme behind Wish You Were Here is sort of, like, being isolated and alone in the world. For example, the people shaking hands. It's a really empty gesture, when you think about it. It's just formality. And while going through this formality, the man is burning inside, but he just hides it. Also, after Welcome To The Machine (I think) there's the door closing, and the sound of the party, which was also meant to give a sense of isolation, and really superficial connection with people. Contrary to popular belief, Wish You Were Here was not written directly as a tribute to Syd Barrett, although it applies to him remarkably well. It just applies to the general sense of being lost, adrift in the world. Shine On... is a direct tribute to Barrett, however.
I never knew that. Gimme more factoids.
Broken Arrow
12-15-2004, 03:23 PM
The new book looks really good.
I think its called Inside Out by Nick Mason.
It has all of these awesome pistures and looks interesting but also looks expensive.
Distant Echoes
12-15-2004, 04:09 PM
Im planning on getting that soon.
I actually read about the Wish you were here meaning a week ago in an interview...that only shine on was made for syd...but you read DeusExmachinas thing, its just like what i saw.
The other day i looked in the Guitar center at a tablature book for the enitre Wish you were here album (yes, im considering covering that whole album too...like DSOTM), and there were 9 photoshoots in it. The first was them setting the man on fire, and a few of the drew members still in the picture, then they got about 3 good pictures of the handshake, then you see the man run away, looking for water when you see smoke fill the last few shots. It was pretty funny, but they actually did set this man on fire in 1975. It was one of the first times they ever did it to a stuntman...around when Smoky and the Bandit also performed it in the movie.
Sad But True
12-15-2004, 07:19 PM
this has probably already been said, but hey ho.....
SCISSOR SISTERS, THE BAND'S DEBUT SELF-TITLED ALBUM, WAS UNLEASHED ON 2 FEBRUARY 2004 ON POLYDOR RECORDS. THIS IS THE ALBUM ON EVERYONE'S LIPS......
THE TRACKLISTING GOES AS FOLLOWS:
1. LAURA
2. TAKE YOUR MAMA
3. COMFORTABLY NUMB <----------oh dear god no.
Deano_Geetar
12-15-2004, 07:32 PM
Floyd are one of my favourite bands and Glimour is my god! The solo for comfortably numb is amazing and time aswell. When me and my friends are drunk we love to listen to dark side of the moon(the album) and i love to listen to run like hell when im drunk and hyped up on red bull.
DeusExMachina
12-15-2004, 07:50 PM
Distant Echoes, I have that tablature book. At least, I think its the same one. Does it have the interview with Roger Waters? It's pretty good.
The biography I read is "Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Odyssey" by Nicholas Schaffner. It was really good, but it was released during the AMLOR world tour, so it's missing some stuff. However, the guy was definitely very thorough. He was on the tour with the band, so he got to work with them and get a lot of info. I definitely want to get the Nick Mason book too, though.
PinkFloyd
12-15-2004, 07:53 PM
I think the creepiest on The Wall is empty spaces by far. Then followed by Is There Anybody Out There?
Distant Echoes
12-15-2004, 07:55 PM
Well I didnt really check out the book that much, considering I know a totally accurate site for that and i left as soon as i came to the store since i found that my Wawa pedal only needed a new battery and wasnt broken...that was pretty embarresing.
How much did that book you read cost? Ill probably get it before christmas while i got to go shopping for the people i actually like.
DeusExMachina
12-15-2004, 07:57 PM
My book? It wasn't too bad... 8 or 10 dollars, I think. Don't remember for sure. I really liked it though.
Distant Echoes
12-15-2004, 08:06 PM
I pulled it up on amazon...its about 12 bucks for a hard cover 300+ page book. Thats not to bad. One more question...Any pictures? Reading isnt really my thing...
magicbus
12-15-2004, 09:55 PM
I have the WYWH tab book too. I know every song except for the slide solo in the second half of SOYCD. The first half is so fun to play, I love Gilmour's tone on that song. I think I'm gonna get those books for christmas too, cause my list is looking pretty bare.
I really like Empty Spaces too, definently creepy. I just wish the movie version was on the cd. It has extended lyrics, and the coolest animation in the movie, I think.
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-15-2004, 10:55 PM
Well, here is my 1,000th post, and I thought I would post it in my favorite bands official thread.
Since we're on the topic of playing Pink Floyd songs, the only song I've really sat down and tried to learn is Wish You Were Here. Awesome song
Could you reccomend some more Floyd songs that are more lead guitar, but not very difficult, please?
Yay, 1,000 :D
Kingofdudes
12-16-2004, 06:49 AM
Could you reccomend some more Floyd songs that are more lead guitar, but not very difficult, please?
Yay, 1,000 :D
Dogs has some awesome lead work. :thumb:
DeusExMachina
12-16-2004, 03:34 PM
A lot of the songs have amazing lead work. They're also not too technically difficult, although if you want to get the Gilmour tone out of them, and play them as well as he does, that'll take some work. Try going with something like Time or Comfortably Numb, or maybe Money. I just figured out the chords to Breathe yesterday, I'm stoked. I love that song.
Schyma
12-16-2004, 03:41 PM
Does anyone like early Syd Floyd (rare) era? Ex. Apples and Oranges
Woodstock
12-16-2004, 04:19 PM
A lot of the songs have amazing lead work. They're also not too technically difficult, although if you want to get the Gilmour tone out of them, and play them as well as he does, that'll take some work. Try going with something like Time or Comfortably Numb, or maybe Money. I just figured out the chords to Breathe yesterday, I'm stoked. I love that song.
Those chords define that album alone, I've learned that song too.
-Listy-
12-16-2004, 04:30 PM
Who agrees Marooned is a beautiful instrumental :)
DeusExMachina
12-16-2004, 05:50 PM
I agree that Marooned is a beautiful instrumental. I love that whole album.
Breathe is a really amazing song, but hardly anyone mentions it when they name good Pink Floyd songs.
lunch998
12-16-2004, 06:25 PM
I agree that Marooned is a beautiful instrumental. I love that whole album.
Breathe is a really amazing song, but hardly anyone mentions it when they name good Pink Floyd songs.
I really like how it leads right into On the Run.
DeusExMachina
12-16-2004, 06:34 PM
Definitely. Every song on that album is brilliant.
Lateralias
12-16-2004, 06:43 PM
Who agrees Marooned is a beautiful instrumental :)
I do, excellent guitar work in it :thumb:
lunch998
12-16-2004, 06:44 PM
I think if Brain Damage and Eclipse were one song, it would be known as one of the greatest Floyd songs. Most people not listening to the album will just hear Brain Damage with no Eclipse, which is a shame.
Lateralias
12-16-2004, 06:45 PM
Breathe is a really amazing song, but hardly anyone mentions it when they name good Pink Floyd songs.
Breathe is actually one of my favorite PF songs, despite it being short, it's a short beautiful overlooked song on DSotM. The lyrics and vocals are quite chilling.
lunch998
12-16-2004, 06:48 PM
"All you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be."
I love that line.
Lateralias
12-16-2004, 06:51 PM
"All you touch and all you see, is all your life will ever be."
I love that line.
Ditto! That's the main one that sends shivers up and down my spine... wow.. it's scary, but awesome. Also "Long you live and High you'll fly, only if you ride the tide, balanced on the biggest wave, and racing towards an early grave"... is another great line from that song.
magicbus
12-16-2004, 07:46 PM
I agree that Marooned is a beautiful instrumental. I love that whole album.
Breathe is a really amazing song, but hardly anyone mentions it when they name good Pink Floyd songs.
I LOVE Breathe. One of my favorite songs on DSOTM, after Time and Any Colour You Like. It just sounds so cool. And the slide part is really creepy, but it rules.
And I think Dogs is one of the tougher songs to learn. I took it in to my guitar teacher, and every chord switch actually changes the scale he's using. This is probably cause its in an open tuning. BUT, that means that if you're soloing over it, you're making constant scale changes to accomodate for the new chords. Kinda tough to do.
Brain Damage and Eclipse = some of the best lyrics and song-writing I have heard Pink Floyd produce.
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-16-2004, 10:49 PM
A lot of the songs have amazing lead work. They're also not too technically difficult, although if you want to get the Gilmour tone out of them, and play them as well as he does, that'll take some work. Try going with something like Time or Comfortably Numb, or maybe Money. I just figured out the chords to Breathe yesterday, I'm stoked. I love that song.
Allright, I'll check out Time, Money, Breathe, and Dogs some time. :upset: That's a wee bit overwhelming for my 6 months of experience, but..I'll do it if I get bored enough on Xmas break.
I learnt stuff of of the Wall first. You know, Another Brick In The Wall, etc.
Also, why not try Comfortably Numb. Not too difficult, if you can get the hang of the pattern.
I'mhungryForASandwich
12-16-2004, 10:51 PM
I love the song "On The Run"
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-16-2004, 10:54 PM
I learnt stuff of of the Wall first. You know, Another Brick In The Wall, etc.
Also, why not try Comfortably Numb. Not too difficult, if you can get the hang of the pattern.
Allright, I shall. Love that song.
I love it too! :D
Almost as much as Run Like Hell, my current project on guitar. :)
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-16-2004, 11:21 PM
I love it too! :D
Almost as much as Run Like Hell, my current project on guitar. :)
I my self am working on "Wish You Were Here." Doh, what an awesome song. :D Quite easy on guitar, I must say.
"We're just two lost souls swimmin' in a fishbowl, year after year"
That right there has to be my favorite Floyd lyric.
Hehe, I love that line. I'm always singing it at work. Awesome song, probably the closest to my heart.
Dr. Jake Destructo
12-16-2004, 11:36 PM
Hehe, I love that line. I'm always singing it at work. Awesome song, probably the closest to my heart.
Yeah, I was singing it during my construction class, and at my school, singing is frowned on because it's not gangsta or whatever, so I was nailing something together, and I turn around, still singing, and there was a group of 5 guys, all dickheads, and they just start laughing at me. Then I shot them with my staple gun :D
Voodoo
12-17-2004, 12:01 AM
Hey, don't normally come around these forums, but The Floyd Rocks. They got me into music.
Kingofdudes
12-17-2004, 08:40 PM
well I think I will one of my latest reps with you all..
"TWAT oh look im a tit who negs for no reason, I'm gilmour, P.S Gilmour fu.cked you Floyd after waters left, BARRETT IS KING -hh"
Another little kid thinking that saying that a band's older stuff is better makes him HxC.
DeusExMachina
12-18-2004, 12:42 AM
Back on topic of Breathe, I really love Breathe Reprise at the end of Time. Its such an amazing return to the song. And the lyrics are brilliant.
Kingofdudes
12-18-2004, 12:54 AM
Back on topic of Breathe, I really love Breathe Reprise at the end of Time. Its such an amazing return to the song. And the lyrics are brilliant.
On the DSotM DVD, when David did it on acoustic it sounded awesome :)
Back on topic of Breathe, I really love Breathe Reprise at the end of Time. Its such an amazing return to the song. And the lyrics are brilliant.
Nothing like facts! Yes Brilliant. :D
I bet we pissed some elitist bastard off with all this discussion about DSOTM. :D
thelizardkingcc
12-18-2004, 04:20 AM
wow, ive been listening to obscured by clouds a lot more lately, and its such a great, completely underrated album. free four, childhoods end, the gold its in the..., all the songs are great...
hypocracy hater
12-18-2004, 05:15 AM
Back on topic of Breathe, I really love Breathe Reprise at the end of Time. Its such an amazing return to the song. And the lyrics are brilliant.
I agree. After the chiming and faster tempo of speed, the soft sounds of breathe make an eccelent contrast
hypocracy hater
12-18-2004, 05:58 AM
I still think the Brain Damage/Eclipse ending to DSOTM is some of the best music Floyd have ever made. It's definitely a near perfect ending to the album.
Yeah, I think that eclipse sums up the whole album
But the sun is eclipsed by the moon
Is it just me or does it really say
'there is no dark side of the moon, its all dark'
at the end in the TGGITS voiceover style.
shortass
12-18-2004, 06:11 AM
I still think the Brain Damage/Eclipse ending to DSOTM is some of the best music Floyd have ever made. It's definitely a near perfect ending to the album.
But it is definately a near perfect album
Distant Echoes
12-18-2004, 08:14 AM
There is nothing you could name in DSOTM that could be added or taken away to make it better its as close to "Perfect" as you can get.
and to hypocracy hater...after the last note and the heart beats again, turn your speaker up and you can hear a British studio guy say "THere is no Dark Side of the Moon really...as a matter a fact its all dark"
They asked a roadie, Studio Manager, and a think one of there band members several questions in the studio and put some of there answers in certain places on the CD. Those are all them guys talking you here in Speak to Me, Great Gig, Brain Damage and Eclipse
I'm listening to the whole of DSOTM live now.
Jesus I love this album.
I my self am working on "Wish You Were Here." Doh, what an awesome song. :D Quite easy on guitar, I must say.
"We're just two lost souls swimmin' in a fishbowl, year after year"
That right there has to be my favorite Floyd lyric.
The lyrics that sum up the entire album have to be:
"No-one told you when to run...you missed the starting gun"
Then it surges into a guitar solo, and a top-class solo at that.
That has to be my favourite part of any pink floyd song.
"Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time..plans that come to either nought or half a page of scribbled lines" is pretty darn seminal too.
Heads up to every member of pink floyd, they should have legally been knighted by now:D.
hypocracy hater
12-18-2004, 08:44 AM
And if the cloud burst, thunder in your ear,
You shout, but no-one seems to hear,
And if the band you're in starts playin' differant tunes,
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
And if the cloud burst, thunder in your ear,
You shout, but no-one seems to hear,
And if the band you're in starts playin' differant tunes,
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.
I love the lyric,
"And if the dam breaks open many years to soon"
I dunno why, just sheer classic lyrics.
One of my top five..or three actually, albums of all time.
hypocracy hater
12-18-2004, 08:52 AM
'And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too'
That line = classic
'And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too'
That line = classic
The whole albums a classic,
oh and yeah,
does anyone else get this,
when they listen to "Us And Them" they feel uplifted?
But I actually listened to the lyrics and they're completley dark:confused:, it's so great the way they've done it.
hypocracy hater
12-18-2004, 09:06 AM
The whole albums a classic,
oh and yeah,
does anyone else get this,
when they listen to "Us And Them" they feel uplifted?
But I actually listened to the lyrics and they're completley dark:confused:, it's so great the way they've done it.
Its the sax
Its the sax
Anyway,
what a brilliant song.
I don't think there's one song I don't like off that album,
I got animals last week too, what an album.
Distant Echoes
12-18-2004, 09:14 AM
Sax does drive the song, but it is a pretty dark song, about warfare it seems
And contains one of the greatest points in music history
With, Without - and who denied its what the fightings all about
God christ i love that line.
Distant Echoes
12-18-2004, 09:16 AM
Animals is great too. Dogs is great, but i love Sheep more.
I love how surprised everyone is when they look at a 5 track CD and it 42 minutes long...with 2 songs only taking up 3 minutes
But i think Floyd is the only bands anyone could agree didnt realease one bad song in the entire decade of the 70s
Animals is great too. Dogs is great, but i love Sheep more.
I love how surprised everyone is when they look at a 5 track CD and it 42 minutes long...with 2 songs only taking up 3 minutes
But i think Floyd is the only bands anyone could agree didnt realease one bad song in the entire decade of the 70s
That's true.
God I love sheep so much,
especially the intro...and the verse...and the outro.. :p
DesolationRow
12-18-2004, 09:35 AM
Dogs is my all time favorite along with Shine on You Crazy Diamond Parts 1-7. One of These Days is pretty cool too. As for my favorite lyric from Floyd its probably " And when you lose control, you'll reap the harvest you have sewn. And as the fear grows, the bad blood slowly turns to stone" from Dogs. As for the sax, Dick Parry was amazing. Us and Them, Shine On, Money, and many other songs wouldn't be so great if it wasn't for that Tenor Sax. Amazing.
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