The Dark Side of the Forum (Pink Floyd)

[standard]

I'm at like 21 min on Echoes right now.

Man, what a jam. I was somehow singing the guitar playing in it. Intresting.

[temporary]

The people he lived with spiked his coffee and other drinks with LSD without him knowing.

I actually didn't know that. That would be a pretty aweful thing to do to someone...

[Lunch]

It was pretty commonplace back in those days. For example, the Who were unwillingly tripping for about 24 hours before their performance at Woodstock because of people doing that.

[dr._feelgood]

Were they still tripping by the time they got onstage?

[Lunch]

I think they were either finished or on the way down.

[Riva]

I can't imagine The Who on drugs. It just seems weird.

[Britton]

That was the thing back then...it's just how it was

[Lunch]

I can't imagine The Who on drugs. It just seems weird.

Entwistle and Daltrey never/rarely got involved, and Moon didn't do as much as you might think. Townshend smoked a lot of pot and did some more psychedelic drugs until late 1967 when he had a terrible experience and decided to give them up. All the acid at Woodstock was taken involuntarily.

[dr._feelgood]

Didn't Entwhistle die from a coke overdose or something?

[Pink_Zeppelin]

Sex + Drugs + Rock and Roll = Da Bomb back then.

[Britton]

Sex + Drugs + Rock and Roll = Da Bomb back then.


Just like I said a minute ago. And it's really too bad

[Lunch]

Yea, I was referring to psychedelic drugs and the group in the 60's (sorry for the confusion). I'm sure they did plenty of coke later in their career.

[Britton]

they didn't do lots of drugs but I think they did drink quite a bit

[Spinal Pap]

The people he lived with spiked his coffee and other drinks with LSD without him knowing.

LSD must have been alot less expensive back then. Not many people would do that nowadays just because you have to pay so much to get it.

[Britton]

Right....

I swear officer

[robo2448]

Yeah in the late '70s The Who had major drug problems. Like Lunch said, I don't think they did too much in the '60s but in the 70's, Townsend, Entwistle, and Moon all had serious drinking problems. Moon died from pills he was taking to stop his alcoholism. I think John's death a few years ago was caused by alcohol, and Townsend has come very close to dying multiple times from alcohol and numerous other drugs. I don't really know anything about Daltrey and drugs.

Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.

[Yield]

Bands back in the late 60's, sadly, never would have been as good as they were if they hadn't taken all the LSD and pot. But it wasn't all the band members who would do drugs. Take Pink Floyd as an example. Everyone did drugs, but Syd Barett was the only person who was seriously addicted. Syd Barett wouldn't have been so drugged anyways but some of his so called "friends" would put acid in his food and his water when he didn't know, so that he would take more drugs while he was already on a trip.

[classicrockman]

/going off the drug topic now

I just watched the 'Classic Albums' DVD on Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon.' It was great. Anyone else seen it?

[Spinal Pap]

Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.

Yeah it's kind of ironic that they were clean for the most part(besides Syd) seeing as how the made some of the best music to chill to.

[Lunch]

Bands back in the late 60's, sadly, never would have been as good as they were if they hadn't taken all the LSD and pot.

I'd say that is false for the most part. It wasn't that the music would suffer if no one did drugs, it's just that the overall style of the time period would be different. Although drugs clearly influenced some great songs/albums in that time, I'd say the real talent of that era would still have produced quality music with or without the drugs. Again, only the styles would be different.

[Schyma]

I would love my friends to drug me with LSD. :D

When acid was legal believe it or not the army would give random people LSD at bars and study their reactions.

[Britton]

I'd say that is false for the most part. It wasn't that the music would suffer if no one did drugs, it's just that the overall style of the time period would be different. Although drugs clearly influenced some great songs/albums in that time, I'd say the real talent of that era would still have produced quality music with or without the drugs. Again, only the styles would be different.


I agree with this statment

is that really true shyma?

[guitarded_chuck]

Pink Floyd didn't really do any drugs, which is kind of surprising because their music is often considered "drug music". I mean Syd did his LSD and stuff, and I think Roger did acid occassionally and Mason did some coke but I think Gilmour and Wright were pretty clean.
Just to varrify, Syd did so much acid he would trip 2 and 3 times a day. Roger did acid once and didn't like it, but drank quite often and smoked pot rarely. Mason drank often too. Gilmour and Wright were the ones who smoked pot fairly regularily. (out of Mason's book.)

[Yield]

Just to varrify, Syd did so much acid he would trip 2 and 3 times a day. Roger did acid once and didn't like it, but drank quite often and smoked pot rarely. Mason drank often too. Gilmour and Wright were the ones who smoked pot fairly regularily. (out of Mason's book.)

I can understand that, because I saw an interview about DSOTM with Gilmour and he took lots of pauses and just looked like he was high.

[Britton]

Where did you see this?

[Yield]

It was on VH1's "I Love the 70's" but I don't know which year

[guitarded_chuck]

Could of been off Live in Pompeii. Dave definitly looks high in a few interviews on that DVD.

Mmm, DSOTM is sooo good on a late Saturday night.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

L8: Are you sure LSD is expensive? I'm sure chemists have come up with easier, more effective methods of concocting this drug,(and pretty much anything else) which would make it a fraction of the cost now than it was then.

Unless you're setting inflation aside, then of course it would have been cheaper 40 years ago.

[Britton]

Pot's really cheap but I've never/will never/try it

I think Dave was main;y a drinker. HIm and Roger

[DeusExMachina]

Dave didn't drink much. He did weed. Roger and Nick were the drinkers. According to Saucerful of Secrets, at least.

[Britton]

You mean the book?

[DeusExMachina]

Yes, the book.

[Britton]

I used to have it (lomg time ago) but my mom gave it to a library

[Paul H.]

Greatest Band Ever

[Britton]

Please don't say things like that

[Yield]

I have the book, so far its pretty good. The only annoying thing is the fact that my friends think I'm retarted for buying a seventeen dollar book about Pink Floyd. I didn't even buy, it was a gift.

Anyways, I haven't gotten far enough to find out what the heck all the others were doing.

[robo2448]

I need A Saucerful of Secrets (the book). But last time I went to the bookstore I had a choice between that and Bob Dylan's Chronicels and well, Chronicles won. I'm going to get A Saucerful of Secrets pretty soon though.

[shamed-angel]

I think Inside Out is better to be honest.

[Broken Arrow]

So I just bought Pink Floyd London 66/67 DVD/CD thing. There is some pretty good footage on it.

[DeusExMachina]

Greatest Band Ever
Welcome to the forums. Just a heads up, try to make your posts a bit more elaborate. This forum doesn't tend to be very welcoming to two word posts. Just to help make your stay more pleasant.

[guitarded_chuck]

I think Inside Out is better to be honest.
Same. It doesn't elaborate on the bands drug use, but that's really because after Syd left, it wasn't really their forte.

[DeusExMachina]

Meh. I wouldn't do drugs either, if I saw my good friend degenerate the way Syd did.

[Riva]

I'd be getting both, to be honest. :)

As well as Echoes.

[Yield]

Hopefully as soon as I get some money, I'm gonna find Inside Out. I saw it twice, once on Amazon and once at Barnes and Noble, but that was before I joined and I haven't been able to find it since.

[Britton]

I buy all of my books at a used book store. So needles to say I don't
get much say in what I really want I just have to wait it out.

But the tab books are awsome.

[Doctor Night]

Does anyone know if there is a link between 'A Great Day for Freedom' from the album ' The Division Bell' and 'The Wall'. Is there a link at all or is it just me

[temporary]

Meh. I wouldn't do drugs either, if I saw my good friend degenerate the way Syd did.

That must have been pretty hard...

[shamed-angel]

I'd be getting both, to be honest. :)

As well as Echoes.
What is Echoes? I haven't heard of that?
One of my favourite floyd songs though.

[Britton]

I don't think there is a link, although on the surface it seems like there could be. I've always seen it as being more about the fall of the Berlin Wall, and globalisation. It does sound like they're having a go at Roger the first time you hear it though. They've said themselves it's about the Berlin Wall, I think.

That's what I took it to mean

I don't think there is a link

[temporary]

What is Echoes? I haven't heard of that?
One of my favourite floyd songs though.

Its a fairly poorly compiled Pink Floyd Greatest Hits.

[shamed-angel]

Oh right, I knew that... I thought he meant that it was a book, as he was talking about books.
And now you mention it, yes it is VERY poorly compiled.

[Britton]

There might be a book. I see so much stuff of The Floyd's it's not even
funny

[shamed-angel]

True. I have echoes, but I've been told to get 'A collection of Great Dance Songs.' but I have every song on there on the album. Would you say it's worth the money? (No Pun Intended)

[Britton]

It might be worth it

but If I were you I'd just take all the songs burn a copy and call it a collection
of great dance songs

[shamed-angel]

That's a good idea.
I'm 3/4 of the way to the entire Pink Floyd album collection... :D

[Britton]

I have a bunch of them

[magicbus]

I almost have all the Pink Floyd I need. I think I have all the albums except for More, The Delicate Sound of Thunder, Pulse, and The Division Bell. There's a few others I'm missing, but I don't really care to get.

[Riva]

Its a fairly poorly compiled Pink Floyd Greatest Hits.

It's also a book by an author whom I can't recall the name of at the moment.


I've got every single Pink Floyd album/single/B-Side ever now. :D

And a bunch of bootlegs.

[snorfledumpkins]

So i just got "Obscured By Clouds"... Wow. There is some great stuff on there. Obscured by clouds, When you're in, wot's...uh the deal?, childhood's end, and stay are my favorites. All i need Is "More" to complete my studio collection, not including the "best of" type things.

[Spinal Pap]

I've got every single Pink Floyd album/single/B-Side ever now. :D

And a bunch of bootlegs.

Sweet man, I'm almost there. Most of my cds are burned though.

I can't wait till the Pulse DVD comes out. I've probably read through the contents about 500 times. It looks so bada$$.

[Britton]

It looks like it's gonna be something alright

[guitarded_chuck]

Yesss guys. I have finally completed my Floyd collection! I bought The Division Bell today, and I have all of the albums.

What's the date for Pulse to come out, or is there one.

[DeusExMachina]

Yesss guys. I have finally completed my Floyd collection! I bought The Division Bell today, and I have all of the albums.

What's the date for Pulse to come out, or is there one.
December 10th, or thereabouts. Check on amazon for specifics.

[guitarded_chuck]

December 10th, or thereabouts. Check on amazon for specifics.
Not bad. Hopefully they'll keep this date this time around.

I know what I'm asking Santa for this year. :p

[Doctor Night]

That's what I took it to mean

I don't think there is a link

It does seem to have a lot of conections. On another Note, I listened to The Wall again today, and finally realised what it's actually about.

//

Does anyone know if Ummagumma is a good album?

December 10th, or thereabouts. Check on amazon for specifics.

It's already out. Well, The CD is anyway

[(LOKI)]

Does anyone know if Ummagumma is a good album?


I have heard some bad things about the solo efforts on it, but it's still worth getting for the live stuff. Although I haven't listined to it in a while since the turn table broke and haven't gotten around to buying the cd.

[Doctor Night]

I have heard some bad things about the solo efforts on it, but it's still worth getting for the live stuff. Although I haven't listined to it in a while since the turn table broke and haven't gotten around to buying the cd.

Well in The Record Shop, they have the live version, which I know intend to get

[DeusExMachina]

Does anyone know if Ummagumma is a good album?



It's already out. Well, The CD is anyway
Ummagumma is very good. And I was talking about the Pulse DVD, not the CD.

[Britton]

I'm not sure if I'm gonna buy it...maybe I'll rent it then if I like it
I'll buy it

[Riva]

I have heard some bad things about the solo efforts on it, but it's still worth getting for the live stuff. Although I haven't listined to it in a while since the turn table broke and haven't gotten around to buying the cd.

Bah, just buy the tape, it's far more coherent than the mish-mash they made of the CD.

[standard]

AUSTRALIAN PINK FLOYD TOMORROW!

I'm bound to **** my pants waiting. :D

[Britton]

what are you talking about?

[standard]

www.aussiefloyd.com

Pink Floyd cover band.. Rather good actually. Going to see them tomorrow.. Can't wait.

[Britton]

That looks cool man

[Riva]

You won't regret it. Also, if you ever see Beyond The Darkside advertised, make sure you see them also. Another fantastic Floyd cover band, from Australia also! :D

[guitarded_chuck]

I saw Aussie Floyd last year. It was a nice show. I was lucky enough to find myself sitting next to their manager, who was very friendly and old'ish. I was treated to some very neat stories.

I might go again in December. It isn't a very cheap show, so I don't know if it's worth seeing a tribute band twice.

[DeusExMachina]

Those crazy aussies. When I saw them, it was very cool. They had a video to go along with their performance of DSOTM, and it centered around a computer animated kangaroo.

[standard]

I seen them last year as well, but this year more of my friends were in to Floyd, so they wanted to go, and how could I pass it up! $25 for main floor tickets aren't too bad either.

[DeusExMachina]

$25 is a very good deal. It was quite a bit more expensive for the show I went to, and I didn't even get very good seats.

[standard]

Yeah, last year when I went it was $45 a seat, but we got 8th row.. And it was my first concert.


You could say it was a mistake to go to such a good concert for my first, because now nothing else compares. :P

[guitarded_chuck]

Yeah, tickets here are $45 a seat. Pretty expensive for a tribute if you ask me. I'd like to see them again, but I'll save my concert monies for another time.

[Britton]

Wow I would maybe pay 20 but not 45


I hope they rock

[Scuba_Steve]

Today I listened to Piper at the gates of Dawn all the way through in detail today.

And I must say, I might have a new favorite floyd album. But I was just wondering, it Syd's solo work anything like PATGOD?

[Kingofdudes]

Today I listened to Piper at the gates of Dawn all the way through in detail today.

And I must say, I might have a new favorite floyd album. But I was just wondering, it Syd's solo work anything like PATGOD?
Nope. It is more lyrically driven. The Madcap Laughs is mostly singing and acoustic guitar.

[Britton]

Which I tend to enjoy

[guitarded_chuck]

Today I listened to Piper at the gates of Dawn all the way through in detail today.

And I must say, I might have a new favorite floyd album. But I was just wondering, it Syd's solo work anything like PATGOD?
Not at all. It's Syd playing acoustic guitar and singing. Not even very psychedelic.

[Britton]

I think at the time he was trying to get outta that stuff and do
something new.

It's a shame he doesn't play anymore

[temporary]

Yeah, tickets here are $45 a seat. Pretty expensive for a tribute if you ask me. I'd like to see them again, but I'll save my concert monies for another time.

If I can find seats for twenty, I'll go when the come to Philly, but other than that I won't.

[standard]

It's a good show, and a good band.

The guitarist and Gilmour himself are the only ones who have Gilmours wah pedal. Gilmour modifies them, and no one knows quite how he mods it, but anyway.. Gilmour gave the guitarist from Aussie Floyd his modified wah to him for his b-day... And Gilmour also hired them to play at his 50th birthday..

[Britton]

That's awsome

are they friends

[temporary]

It's a good show, and a good band.

The guitarist and Gilmour himself are the only ones who have Gilmours wah pedal. Gilmour modifies them, and no one knows quite how he mods it, but anyway.. Gilmour gave the guitarist from Aussie Floyd his modified wah to him for his b-day... And Gilmour also hired them to play at his 50th birthday..

I heard about that. They played Comfortably Numb with Rick Wright, or something, too.

[robo2448]

Tickets are 37.50 for NYC. Should I go?

[Spinal Pap]

And Gilmour also hired them to play at his 50th birthday..

I've always wondered if Gilmour,Waters,Wright, and Mason actually listened to their own music in their free time. You would think that they'd be almost sick of it having heard and played it so much.

[PinkFloyd]

*has seen aussie floyd*

[DeusExMachina]

Tickets are 37.50 for NYC. Should I go?
I'd recommend it.

I think that Syd's solo stuff is pretty psychadelic, not necessarily in instrumentation, but the music itself is pretty out there. But, I haven't listened to it at all recently, so I may be remembering incorrectly.

[MBS]

The guitarist and Gilmour himself are the only ones who have Gilmours wah pedal. Gilmour modifies them, and no one knows quite how he mods it, but anyway.. Gilmour gave the guitarist from Aussie Floyd his modified wah to him for his b-day... And Gilmour also hired them to play at his 50th birthday

Gilmour doesn't modify them, he hired some guy to.

The whales-having-intercourse part in Echoes (I think that's what we dubbed it) used one of those pedals and there were only 4 made. Gilmour has 3 and the Aussie Floyd guitarist has 1. What a lucky guy.

[guitarded_chuck]

At any of these Aussie Floyd concerts you guys went to, did they play any Syd-era stuff? I had heard before that they sometimes played Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive. I was praaaying they'd play either or, but they didn't.

[DeusExMachina]

They played Astronomy Domine when I went.

[guitarded_chuck]

Did they really? Not bad. What was the light show part of the song like?

The best part of the show that I saw was when they played Careful With That Axe, Eugene. It was just a really eerie atmosphere to go along with the song. And when the sweet scream came, the whole stadium erupted! Looked like everything was on fire, red lights flashing everywhere. It was a great effect, inspired by the Pompeii film no doubt.

I can remember the female vocalists doing an amazing job as well. They blew me away during The Great Gig In The Sky.

[thunderzstruck]

damnit!

Australian Pink Floyd plays tomorrow over here and I forgot tickets :angry: :upset:

[snorfledumpkins]

damnit!

Australian Pink Floyd plays tomorrow over here and I forgot tickets :angry: :upset:
They start tomorrow over here too. Where do you live? I completely forgot about it also. :upset: I know i'm gonna regret this if they don't come 'round next year. For those who have gone, are they good? And would one appreciate them more if one was a big floyd fan, or a passerby who likes abitwp2?

[standard]

So I went to Aussie Floyd tonight.. AMAZING.

We had main floor tickets, at the place we went had no seats.. So I was less than 2 feet away from the stage, I could literally touch it. It was nuts.

[Britton]

What songs did they play?

[magicbus]

The entire Dark Side of the Moon, and I think a second set also.

[standard]

Yeah, DSoTM, then they played uh..

Learning To Fly
Keep Talking
Astronomy Domine
Another Brick In The Wall Pt.2
Comfortably Numb (amazing solo)
Careful With That Axe Eugene
One Of These Days
In The Flesh (Pt. 2)
Run Like Hell
Have A Cigar
Shine On (I - V)
Wish You Were Here

I believe that's all.. o.O


Pictures soon!

[halfdeadhippo]

Gilmour doesn't modify them, he hired some guy to.

The whales-having-intercourse part in Echoes (I think that's what we dubbed it) used one of those pedals and there were only 4 made. Gilmour has 3 and the Aussie Floyd guitarist has 1. What a lucky guy.
Take a Crybaby and plug it in backwards (the guitar plug going into the amp jack, etc). You'll get a sound very similar to the "whales having intercourse" part of "Echoes". Only trouble is that it's been so long since I did this, that I'm not entirely sure if that's how I actually did it. All I know is that I did something to my wah pedal and got the "whales having intercourse" effect.

[magicbus]

I did that with my wah pedal and nothing happened, no sound came through at all.

[DeusExMachina]

That doesn't work. If you did that, the sound from the amp would be output by the guitar. But, since the guitar can't output and the amp doesn't make noise on its own, no noise would come. You need to do rewiring of the pedal.

[thunderzstruck]

They start tomorrow over here too. Where do you live? I completely forgot about it also. :upset: I know i'm gonna regret this if they don't come 'round next year. For those who have gone, are they good? And would one appreciate them more if one was a big floyd fan, or a passerby who likes abitwp2?


Minnesota

[Britton]

Take a Crybaby and plug it in backwards (the guitar plug going into the amp jack, etc). You'll get a sound very similar to the "whales having intercourse" part of "Echoes". Only trouble is that it's been so long since I did this, that I'm not entirely sure if that's how I actually did it. All I know is that I did something to my wah pedal and got the "whales having intercourse" effect.


Yep you just plug it in backwords

[temporary]

Yeah, DSoTM, then they played uh..

Learning To Fly
Keep Talking
Astronomy Domine
Another Brick In The Wall Pt.2
Comfortably Numb (amazing solo)
Careful With That Axe Eugene
One Of These Days
In The Flesh (Pt. 2)
Run Like Hell
Have A Cigar
Shine On (I - V)
Wish You Were Here

I believe that's all.. o.O


Pictures soon!

That sounds like a pretty sweet set, I've got to get tickets to see these guys.

[DeusExMachina]

Yep you just plug it in backwords
Granted I haven't tried it, but I don't think that would work. It just doesn't sound like it would make sense.

[magicbus]

Granted I haven't tried it, but I don't think that would work. It just doesn't sound like it would make sense.

Nope. Doesn't really work. Unless it has to be a certain kind of wah pedal. I have a Crybaby Classic.

[Yield]

I'm gonna have to try that when I get the chance. Anyways, the Aussie Floyd seem good. I'm gonna have to try and find out about them.

[thickasabrick]

Nope. Doesn't really work. Unless it has to be a certain kind of wah pedal. I have a Crybaby Classic.

Yeah I have an Original Crybaby (probably the same thing as a Crybaby Classic) and no noise comes out if I plug them in backwards...I've done it by accident many times.

[Broken Arrow]

I have a crybaby and I've plugged it in backwords. It made a weird sound but the volume on the guitar had to be 10.

[DeusExMachina]

Hmm. I should try it.

/plugs in guitar

[Britton]

I have a GCB-95 and it works on that. I've only done it once
cause like memtioned above it makes no sense.

[Vascor]

I absolutely ****ing love Pink Floyd.

Currently my favorite album is Animals, still missing More, Saucerful of Secrets, Atom Heart Mother, Final Cut, Obscured by Clouds, a few live things, and the albums without Waters though

[standard]

The 2 albums without Waters ;)

[Sebek]

Piper at the Gates of Dawn still remains my favorite Floyd album to date.

Floyd + Syd > Floyd - Syd

IMO

[Kingofdudes]

Save for 2 songs (Astronomy Domine and Interstellar Overdrive) PATGOD is really only good for chill music.

I recommend the David Gilmour self titled album to anyone in here. It is a whole lot better than About Face.

[Schyma]

Piper at the Gates of Dawn still remains my favorite Floyd album to date.

Floyd + Syd > Floyd - Syd

IMO
HUZAH!!!!! :amaze:

5,000,000% agree with you. :thumb:

[Jude]

Piper at the Gates of Dawn still remains my favorite Floyd album to date.

Floyd + Syd > Floyd - Syd

IMO
Ehh, I'm not so all about Syd's stuff. I think he's overrated. PATGOD is mediocre and a lot of it is too bizarre to really be listenable. Take Interstellar Overdrive, for example...one cool riff and a bunch of unlistenable noise and wankage.

The quality of the band really went up fairly steadily starting with ASOS and peaked around DSOTM/WYWH. Animals was still awesome, too, but it was their last great album. The Wall is overrated and very mediocre...some incredible songs and lots of filler.

[robo2448]

Lucifer Sam is my favorite song on PATGOD. Syd's awesome but I prefer Floyd with Gilmour and Waters.

I got Gilmour's s/t a while ago but it never really grabbed my attention. Some of the guitar playing was great but without Water's songwriting the album just isn't very consistent. I've only listened to it like once though, and it was a few months ago so I should be giving it another listen.

[Schyma]

Ehh, I'm not so all about Syd's stuff. I think he's overrated.Overrated? The only user that really hails him is me. To tell you the truth I find it funny that you find Syd overrated when you guys overrate Gilmour extremly. I love his style but honestly he isn't that great of a guitarist.
PATGOD is mediocre and a lot of it is too bizarre to really be listenable. Take Interstellar Overdrive, for example...one cool riff and a bunch of unlistenable noise and wankage."Intersteller Overdrive" was Pink Floyd's first major space jam and a damn amazing one at that. Maybe it sounds like "wankage" to you but to me this is a masterpeice. I find it quite ironic that you don't consider "Saucerful of Secrets" unlistenable yet "Intersteller Overdrive" is. :rolleyes:

The whole PATGOD album is fantastic except for "Take Up Thy.." which was Roger's first song.

[DeusExMachina]

HUZAH!!!!! :amaze:

5,000,000% agree with you. :thumb:
:lol: Now there are two of you.

In all honesty, I really do enjoy PATGOD. It's certainly better than all of the pre-DSOTM albums except maybe Meddle and AHM, but I do prefer the later stuff.

[thunderzstruck]

Wow... Us and Them is an AWESOME song

[Whale and Wasp]

i cant decide on one album but PATGOD and meddle are the best floyd albums ever......

[standard]

I'm with Jude. I don't like Syd time period stuff. It's just too weird. I like a couple songs, but it's just strange noises.

Maybe if I smoked weed or did acid, but I don't..

[MBS]

Take a Crybaby and plug it in backwards (the guitar plug going into the amp jack, etc). You'll get a sound very similar to the "whales having intercourse" part of "Echoes". Only trouble is that it's been so long since I did this, that I'm not entirely sure if that's how I actually did it. All I know is that I did something to my wah pedal and got the "whales having intercourse" effect.

Yeah, I've tried that. It only makes one pitch, though. If you listen to "Echoes", Gilmour's pedal makes many different pitches, so the whole pedal needs to be rewired in order to accurately reproduce the sounds made.

[Sebek]

Breathe is probably my favorite non Syd song though.

Maybe it's just me then, I just prefer the Syd era. The weirdness of it kind of seems like that's what Pink Floyd should be. When I listen to albums outside of that time now it sounds like a different band in a way.

[Britton]

It's a much different band.

[standard]

I thought that once.. But then again, which era lasted longer?

The non-Syd is how Pink Floyd was.. Even though it .. should have, or should not have been?

Although it was mean how they got rid of Syd, there was no other choice, but they could have done it more polite.

[Britton]

They were really tough on him. He just couldn't take it

[Jude]

Overrated? The only user that really hails him is me. To tell you the truth I find it funny that you find Syd overrated when you guys overrate Gilmour extremly. I love his style but honestly he isn't that great of a guitarist.
"Intersteller Overdrive" was Pink Floyd's first major space jam and a damn amazing one at that. Maybe it sounds like "wankage" to you but to me this is a masterpeice. I find it quite ironic that you don't consider "Saucerful of Secrets" unlistenable yet "Intersteller Overdrive" is. :rolleyes:

The whole PATGOD album is fantastic except for "Take Up Thy.." which was Roger's first song.

I don't know, I hear lots of praise for Syd. He's OK, but too weird for my taste. And SOS (the song) is pretty wanky too...in fact I find a lot of early Floyd that way, including Atom Heart Mother. But for the most part I think they improved after Syd. Of course, most bands improve over time, so if Syd had stayed sane, it's not to say he wouldn't have gotten better too.

[Spinal Pap]

But for the most part I think they improved after Syd. Of course, most bands improve over time, so if Syd had stayed sane, it's not to say he wouldn't have gotten better too.

It's hard to say whether or not they improved with Syd's departure considering the drastic change in sound they made. I like Waters era Floyd a lot more so I consider it an improvement, but from a psychadelic standpoint, they went downhill.

Wow... Us and Them is an AWESOME song

That's the song that got me into Floyd. I love the lyrics. Great sax too.

[rockinbass17]

They're both just so different, it's hard to compare. I have no idea who I prefer, Syd or Roger, because sometimes I'm in a mood for obscure phychadelic stuff, but other times I'm in the mood for spacey, artsy music. From a technical perspective, Waters was much more musical than Syd. But Syd's songs are somtimes more fun to listen to.

[POLISH SAUSAGE]

i prefer syd. his songs were so out there and trippy, that i just cant get enough of.

[PinkFloyd]

Us and them = Best Floyd Song.

Hands down.

It's over.

No if ands or buts.

It just is.

[standard]

Funny that such a random person in the band wrote that too huh?

I'm listening to Shine On right now, and I wish I had all my gear I'm saving for.. My GT-8 and a steel guitar. :P

[DizzySaxophone]

Us and them = Best Floyd Song.

Hands down.

It's over.

No if ands or buts.

It just is.


:) I couldn't agree with you more :D

[DizzySaxophone]

That's the song that got me into Floyd. I love the lyrics. Great sax too.

A wonderful saxophone, It's one of my favorite songs for me to pull out my tenor sax to and play along/improve too.

[magicbus]

Funny that such a random person in the band wrote that too huh?


:confused:

Random?

[standard]

Well kinda. It was usually Waters and Gilmour, not Wright!

[Dragon_Prince]

Well kinda. It was usually Waters and Gilmour, not Wright!


Mhm, but I think Wright didn't write that one ... but I could be wrong

personally I think Wright is the most talented of the members, look how he wrote The Great Gig In The Sky, well that is just perfectly done, how everything works together so well, and if he wrote Us And Them I think he's even better, and Summer 68 is also a very nice song :)

[Riva]

Wright wrote Us and Them, along with Waters. Wright wrote some of the best songs by Floyd.

[Dragon_Prince]

Wright wrote Us and Them, along with Waters. Wright wrote some of the best songs by Floyd.


Have you heard his solo album? Or anyone else? If someone has it can he/she write a review, I think his solo work will be good

[guitarded_chuck]

Ehh, I'm not so all about Syd's stuff. I think he's overrated. PATGOD is mediocre and a lot of it is too bizarre to really be listenable. Take Interstellar Overdrive, for example...one cool riff and a bunch of unlistenable noise and wankage.

The quality of the band really went up fairly steadily starting with ASOS and peaked around DSOTM/WYWH. Animals was still awesome, too, but it was their last great album. The Wall is overrated and very mediocre...some incredible songs and lots of filler.
Nah, not at all. Interstellar Overdrive is an amazing song. It was improvised in studios as well, and it's crazy how well the improvised work went together. The way they recorded it was to play the main riff, which is the backbone of the song, then do improvise. They recorded 3 versions and picked their favorite. They never played it live the same way twice.

I wouldn't say that Syd's Floyd was better than later stuff, but it is definitly great! PATGOD is the best psychedelia album of all time.

I really don't like ASOS all that much. For my opinion see my review on spuntik, but it's mainly a transitional album, and hard to listen to and enjoy to me. The Wall has lots of filler because it's a concept album btw. :)

And yea, Us & Them is definitly one of, or the best Pink Floyd song ever. I love it. Best off DSOTM for sure.

[Spinal Pap]

I wouldn't say that Syd's Floyd was better than later stuff, but it is definitly great! PATGOD is the best psychedelia album of all time.

Agreed. With Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band running a close 2nd.

[DeusExMachina]

Wright wrote Us and Them, along with Waters. Wright wrote some of the best songs by Floyd.
Mhm, but I think Wright didn't write that one ... but I could be wrong
:lol: Am I the only one who found that amusing?

Us and Them is definitely an amazing song, probably the best on DSOTM.

I'm listening to Gilmour's solo stuff right now. It's pretty good, but not amazing.

[Dragon_Prince]

yeah I know wasn't sure ;)

[Jude]

Nah, not at all. Interstellar Overdrive is an amazing song. It was improvised in studios as well, and it's crazy how well the improvised work went together. The way they recorded it was to play the main riff, which is the backbone of the song, then do improvise. They recorded 3 versions and picked their favorite. They never played it live the same way twice.

I wouldn't say that Syd's Floyd was better than later stuff, but it is definitly great! PATGOD is the best psychedelia album of all time.

I really don't like ASOS all that much. For my opinion see my review on spuntik, but it's mainly a transitional album, and hard to listen to and enjoy to me. The Wall has lots of filler because it's a concept album btw. :)

And yea, Us & Them is definitly one of, or the best Pink Floyd song ever. I love it. Best off DSOTM for sure.

Ehh, I know it was improvised but it still just sounds like 9 minutes of wankage to me. And The Wall has no excuse for all that filler...it practically could have been a one-LP album and probably would have been a lot better.

I like Time more than Us and Them, although mainly because I identify with the lyrics more.

Anyone else like Childhood's End more than Time?

[magicbus]

I love Time, and it's probably one of my favorite Floyd songs. It's so cool how the solo comes in only after one verse, and what a solo it is!

And yea, Wright is awesome. He keyboard work was great, and a lot of his songs were pretty cool. I think he's really underrated.

[Broken Arrow]

Childhood's end is great, but I don't know. Time is one of Floyd's best songs. I'd say Time.

[Spinal Pap]

Ehh, I know it was improvised but it still just sounds like 9 minutes of wankage to me.

I know what you mean. It took me a while to really like the parts with all the beeps and other odd sounds. Same way with Atom Heart Mother. I love both of them now though.

I love Time, and it's probably one of my favorite Floyd songs. It's so cool how the solo comes in only after one verse, and what a solo it is!

And yea, Wright is awesome. He keyboard work was great, and a lot of his songs were pretty cool. I think he's really underrated.

Yeah Time is awesome, has one of Floyd's best solos.

[bacchusy]

i think time has floyd's BEST solo.

the solos from Money and Comfortably Numb are genious but time's solo is just perfect - in my opinion the best solo ever

[bacchusy]

by the way, what do you think about "With Piper at the Gates of Down"?
I want to buy a new album, I already have The Wall, Animals, Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and A Momentary Lapse of Reason. I'm not sure ... which album I should buy next ... I've heard, WPATGOD is quite different from the other floyd-albums

[Schyma]

"SOYCD" is way better IMO. Oh and.....

"Maggot Brain" > Any solo

PATGOD is way different from other Floyd but is their very best IMO. I'd get PATGOD or Meddle.

[Deconstruction]

I just picked up Momentary lapse of reason. I havent had a chance to listen to it yet but I think it will be good.

[Schyma]

Get ready to be disappointed......

[DeusExMachina]

Well, it's much more 80's. One of the weaker Floyd releases, but still very good.

Edit: Schyma's just bitter because there aren't weird acid-induced ambient breakdowns. :p

[Spinal Pap]

PATGOD is way different from other Floyd but is their very best IMO. I'd get PATGOD or Meddle.

I'd get both. :thumb:

But really, I would go with Meddle first. Only get PATGOD if you want something completely different and new.

Get ready to be disappointed......

Yeah...you would probably have been better off to just download Sorrow and Terminal Frost. The rest is pretty bad IMO.

[Deconstruction]

Well I bought it used so it shouldnt be too much of a letdown even if it wasnt very good. What are some of the more obscure albums I should pick up by them. I have a good set right now. I have, DSOTM,AHM,The Wall, SFOS,Animals,OBC,MLOR,WYWH, I think I have PATGOD but I cant remeber and dont feel like digging through my albums.

[Whale and Wasp]

well if you dont compare it to the earlier stuff, AMLOR is a great album IMO

[bacchusy]

thanks to Shyma and Spinal Pap, i'm going to buy meddle

Originaly posted by Spinal Pap
Yeah...you would probably have been better off to just download Sorrow and Terminal Frost. The rest is pretty bad IMO.

I like On The Turning Away and Learning To Fly ... and the opener Sings of Life is also quite good ... but I just hate this "A new machine" things.

[Spinal Pap]

On The Turning Away and Learning To Fly are pretty good songs. I suppose AMLOR isn't that bad of an album but it doesn't compare with most of Floyd's other work.

[DeusExMachina]

Anyone interested in post-Waters Floyd (or Floyd at all, for that matter) would do very well to pick up The Division Bell.

[standard]

Wright wrote Us and Them, along with Waters. Wright wrote some of the best songs by Floyd.


Waters' name is on like every Floyd song ever. Wright wrote the lyrics for Us and Them to be used in a song for a movie, but it was turned down. So they were looking through old stuff, and found it, and worked with it.

I doubt Waters wrote as much music as he gets credit, considering Gilmour had to tune his bass for him. (Until they got the digital tuners)

[Deconstruction]

I think I am going to be in a band greatly influenced by Pink Floyd.

[magicbus]

Actually Wright wrote the piano part for "Zabriskie Point" (sp?), and then they later dug it out for "Us & Them". I'm pretty sure Waters wrote the lyrics, and that's why he got credit for the song also.

[robo2448]

Waters' name is on like every Floyd song ever. Wright wrote the lyrics for Us and Them to be used in a song for a movie, but it was turned down. So they were looking through old stuff, and found it, and worked with it.

I doubt Waters wrote as much music as he gets credit, considering Gilmour had to tune his bass for him. (Until they got the digital tuners)

Well by The Wall time period, Waters was basically just interested in writing and singing. Gilmour played bass on a lot The Wall and on live tours Roger hired someone to play bass so he could focus more on singing and putting on a show.

[Spinal Pap]

Anyone interested in post-Waters Floyd (or Floyd at all, for that matter) would do very well to pick up The Division Bell.

Agreed. I love Marooned and High Hopes.

[Romencer17]

Anyone interested in post-Waters Floyd (or Floyd at all, for that matter) would do very well to pick up The Division Bell.

I disagree. IMO, the Devision Bell was the worst Floyd album ever. It's all pretty much relaxation music, nothing like what Floyd is supposed to be. The only good thing about is how far David Gilmour can bend those strings.

[randomthought9]

I actually like the Division Bell. It's my favorite post-Waters album. I like to relax to PF. They can write 20 minute long songs, and I'll be left wanting more.

[standard]

It is a good album musically. I personally love Gilmours lyrics, but a lot of people disagree. I think Gilmour and them did a FINE job on the albums without Waters.

[Deconstruction]

It is a good album musically. I personally love Gilmours lyrics, but a lot of people disagree. I think Gilmour and them did a FINE job on the albums without Waters.
You dont think you could send/trade that do you?

[standard]

AIM me -- tellum471


We'll see if we could work something out. ;)

[Romencer17]

Well, I liked AMLOR more than The Division Bell. the Division Bell had some nice solos, and the last song was nice, but I seriously didn't like it at all. Oh, and the booklet hand some nice trippy pictures in it.

[Romencer17]

Sometimes I think, that it was lucky that a few druggies from the 60's became so famous.

[MBS]

Gilmour played bass on a lot The Wall

He played fretless bass on 'Hey You' :cool:

[Deconstruction]

Np:Signs of Life-Pink Floyd

[standard]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8687227922034118883&q=david+gilmour

High Hopes video.. Strange. o.O


Makes me want one of them big fuggin kite type.. THINGS even more!

[Grant]

Concerning the Division Bell:

I've never really been able to gel with this record. Sure, it's got a few great tracks (Marooned, Poles Apart and High Hopes) but overall it just isn't a satisfying album.

It's evident that Gilmour actually TRIED to write decent song lyrics this time around but a majority of them are just juvenile and clunky. He uses the words, "you" and "me" far too much.

Finally, it's a musically rich album. The Division Bell really shows how talented Wright, Gilmour and Mason are on their respective instruments. Wright and Gilmour have a unique chemistry and the best example of this would be on Marooned.

It's a decent album, I'd recommend downloading first and then buy it if you like it. Or if you're like me, buy it for the sake of completionism.

[Kingofdudes]

Well by The Wall time period, Waters was basically just interested in writing and singing. Gilmour played bass on a lot The Wall and on live tours Roger hired someone to play bass so he could focus more on singing and putting on a show.
During the live show they kept the shadow band to play most of the show, so that worked out for Roger.
Shadow Roger (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/kingfoodguy/The%20Wall/shadowroger.jpg)
It's all pretty much relaxation music, nothing like what Floyd is supposed to be.
Who are you to say what a Floyd album should be?


On a side note, Pink Floyd were planning on releasing an ambient album, but never got around to it.

[Romencer17]

Dude, the album just sucks like hell. It doesn't come close to normal Pink Floyd. I don't know what happened to them during that time, but everything good about Pink Floyd is gone in that album, except for, as I already said, the nice guitar solos. And the trippy pictures.

[Up The Irons]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8687227922034118883&q=david+gilmour

High Hopes video.. Strange. o.O


Makes me want one of them big fuggin kite type.. THINGS even more!

that must have been the only music video they did. or is there another one? (besides the Wall obviously)

[Riva]

They did tons of videos, I believe. Especially for their more popular songs; Money, ABITW2, etc.

[Kingofdudes]

Dude, the album just sucks like hell. It doesn't come close to normal Pink Floyd. I don't know what happened to them during that time, but everything good about Pink Floyd is gone in that album, except for, as I already said, the nice guitar solos. And the trippy pictures.
you missed my point, so I will just ignore you

They did tons of videos, I believe. Especially for their more popular songs; Money, ABITW2, etc.
They had a video for every song they played live actually.

[temporary]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8687227922034118883&q=david+gilmour

High Hopes video.. Strange. o.O


Makes me want one of them big fuggin kite type.. THINGS even more!

Yeah, thats pretty weird. I saw it a while ago on the Echoes Website. Cool video, though.

that must have been the only music video they did. or is there another one? (besides the Wall obviously)

They made tons, and played them on a big screen behind them on their late 80s/90s tours. You can see them on A Delicate Sound of Thunder and Pulse.

[moaner]

aussie floyd use them. the one for "shine on" is very cool, I wish i could find it somehwere.

[Britton]

Yeah, thats pretty weird. I saw it a while ago on the Echoes Website. Cool video, though.



They made tons, and played them on a big screen behind them on their late 80s/90s tours. You can see them on A Delicate Sound of Thunder and Pulse.


Is pulse out yet?

Yea they made alotta films for their shows

[temporary]

Is pulse out yet?

Yea they made alotta films for their shows

The DVD isn't out yet, I got the concert a while ago from someone on here.

[Sebek]

Sometimes I think, that it was lucky that a few druggies from the 60's became so famous.


According to an auto-biogrophy by Rick (or maybe it was Nick) Syd was the only one into the drugs. The others just drank occasionally. I thought it ludacris at first, but it's really not that hard to believe when you think about it.

[Romencer17]

Not that hard to believe? You have to be pretty high to come up with money this is Roger:

Roger: aw, man! I just had an experience. Get me a cash register.

And we all know Syd was a druggie. But the others were probably druggies.

Back to the videos..... Yeah, on The Wall DVD there's a video for ABITW Part 2.

And the auto-biography was by Nick. Unless you're not talking about Inside Out

[magicbus]

First of all, stop with all the multiple posts.

Second, that isn't how Roger came up with Money at all. And they weren't complete druggies. Some of the members liked to drink, and some smoked weed occasionally. I've done both of those things, and I do not consider myself a druggie.

Chill out with you and your drugs.

[temporary]

Well, as of right now, Marooned has replaced Any Color You Like as my favorite Gilmour/Wright duet. This song is so perfect...

[LF96]

I've seen the ABITW pt. 2 video on TV and the video for High Hopes too. On the official website of Pink Floyd (www.pinkfloyd.co.uk) you can watch some other videos (in the Echoes section, you'll need to search for them tho), including a promotional film for Arnold Layne which I find to be funny.

[Kurrpt]

can anyone nail the HAVE A CIGAR solo yet?

[bacchusy]

which one is the best floyd live album??

[robo2448]

which one is the best floyd live album??

I'd start with Pulse. That's probably the best to start with and easiest to get into. There's a big difference from their later performances like Delicate Sound of Thunder and Pulse and their earlier performances like Ummagumma and Live At Pompeii. So you should just get all their live stuff but Pulse is probably my favorite and the best one to start with:thumb:

[bacchusy]

thank you ... what about this "smoking blues"-cd which is described as very well in the sputnik music review

[robo2448]

thank you ... what about this "smoking blues"-cd which is described as very well in the sputnik music review

I just read the review on it, it sounds really good but hard to find. I'm going to look for it at my flea market. That's usually the best place for me to find rare stuff like that. I'd probably still get Pulse first even though it's really expensive because I think it probably is the easiest to get into even though Roger Waters isn't with the group. You can't really go wrong with whatever you buy though.

I need to find that Smoking Blues cd.

[Joe]

can anyone nail the HAVE A CIGAR solo yet?

Just about to listen to it for the first time to be quite honest

NP - Pink Floyd - Have a Cigar

[magicbus]

I'm not sure what you consider nail, but I can play it pretty well.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I'm not sure what you consider nail, but I can play it pretty well.
I think he means being able to play it perfectly.

[magicbus]

I think he means being able to play it perfectly.

Alright. Well close, but not perfect.

[Deconstruction]

Is anything perfect?

[standard]

http://media.putfile.com/msolo

^^ Me playing the solo from Mother.. which is an awsome song. I didn't feel like grabbing my amp, so excuse it being quiet .. But I was bored, and had my guitar next to me, so I just put my mic by it. How is it ?

BTW, I did a noise reduction filter on Audtion, so some of the long sustain parts are shorter than should be, and some parts sound funny.

[Spinal Pap]

Has anyone else noticed how for about a week or two there's some good convos in this thread and then it kinda dies for a while? Anyway, I've noticed that Animals isn't talked about a whole lot here, so what does everyone think of it? It was my favorite Floyd album for a long time. I absolutely love Dogs. Pigs on the Wing 1&2 are great too, real fun to strum along to on my acoustic. There's not really a weak spot on the whole album.

[magicbus]

I'm not a big fan of Animals. It seems too complex to me. Not like the simpler Floyd I'm used to listening to.

[Broken Arrow]

I go through phases where I love Animals but then when I'm not in that "phase" I will just say its meh.

/not in the phase

That can't stop me from linking Pigs(3 Different Ones Though)

That album reminds me of Winter/Christmas.

[Riva]

The greatest moments on Animals are during Pigs On The Wing 1 and 2. Dogs is great, Sheep drags a little, and Pigs (3 Different Ones) tends to feel a little "lost" to me.

[robo2448]

Pigs (3 Different Ones) is one of my favorite songs ever. Animals is either tied with or right below WYWH as my favorite Floyd album. I love it.