The Dark Side of the Forum (Pink Floyd)

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I was wonder which album you guys think is better?

Atom Heart Mother or Ummaguma(sp?)

I like Floyd alot and have most of their albums what should I buy next?

I have Animals
WYWH
DSOTM
The Wall
Meddle
PATGOD
and Saucerful or Secrets.
If you like the wall, go for the final cut.

Look into the division bell, OBC, and AMLOR as well (in addition to those you listed). My faves of those would be the final cut or the division bell.

[DeusExMachina]

I say The Division Bell. I'm not a big fan of The Final Cut.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

I have never really liked Pink Floyd, but recently I heard a Floyd song that I enjoyed very much. I am trying to figure out which one it is. I will try to describe it the best I can, but I heard it late last night. It has a lot of piano in the beginning and then some piano throughout the rest of the song. The Main chorus goes "The grass was greener". Oh it also had a pretty nice solo. So can you guys help me figure out which song it is?

[DeusExMachina]

That would be High Hopes. Its off of The Division bell. Great song.

[s0ldsoul4roknrol]

That would be High Hopes. Its off of The Division bell. Great song.

Thanks. Great song is true.

[DeusExMachina]

Glad to help.

[Broken Arrow]

If you like the wall, go for the final cut.

Look into the division bell, OBC, and AMLOR as well (in addition to those you listed). My faves of those would be the final cut or the division bell.I'm abigger fan of their earlier stuff but it wouldn't hurt to give it a try I guess.

[DeusExMachina]

Blegh. The Final Cut sounds to me like the outtakes that weren't good enough to make it onto the wall.

[Broken Arrow]

Blegh. The Final Cut sounds to me like the outtakes that weren't good enough to make it onto the wall.
Well when the Tigers broke Free was on the wall.

[DeusExMachina]

Well, in the movie, yeah, but not the album. When The Tigers Broke Free literally is an outtake that didn't make it onto the wall. It became a single, went on the movie, and made it onto The Final Cut eventually, but it didn't cut it for The Wall.

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Blegh. The Final Cut sounds to me like the outtakes that weren't good enough to make it onto the wall.
I thought it was? I was told that was exactly what it was, maybe I am misinformed...I like it anyways though, but the wall is my fav album...

[DeusExMachina]

And for the record, I think When The Tigers Broke Free is whiney and annoying. Maybe its just me.

[DeusExMachina]

I thought it was? I was told that was exactly what it was, maybe I am misinformed...I like it anyways though, but the wall is my fav album...


Could be, I don't really know the history of the album. But it certainly sounds like its true.

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Well, in the movie, yeah, but not the album. When The Tigers Broke Free literally is an outtake that didn't make it onto the wall. It became a single, went on the movie, and made it onto The Final Cut eventually, but it didn't cut it for The Wall.
I don't have it, and I have that album...odd...

[Broken Arrow]

Well, in the movie, yeah, but not the album. When The Tigers Broke Free literally is an outtake that didn't make it onto the wall. It became a single, went on the movie, and made it onto The Final Cut eventually, but it didn't cut it for The Wall.
I meant the movie

The Wall was the first Floyd I ever heard. My dad was spinning some of his viynl for me. My favourite from that album is probably "Mother"

[DeusExMachina]

I don't have it, and I have that album...odd...

When The Tigers Broke Free is only on the recent remastering of The Final Cut. All releases of the album prior to April 2004 didn't have WTTBF.

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When The Tigers Broke Free is only on the recent remastering of The Final Cut. All releases of the album prior to April 2004 didn't have WTTBF.
That sucks, so how would I hear that song...I have the movie soundtrack on my computer, which part is it, is it the whole version?

[Kage]

At what point in the Wizard of Oz do you start playing Dark Side of the Moon to get them to be synchronized?

[Riva]

Hey, we're official. :cool:

And you start it at the third roar of the MGM lion. Don't know how it'll work with adverts though.

[DeusExMachina]

W00t! Officialness!
That sucks, so how would I hear that song...I have the movie soundtrack on my computer, which part is it, is it the whole version?
In the actual movie, the song is split into two parts, but its the whole song. Not sure how they put it in the soundtrack.

At what point in the Wizard of Oz do you start playing Dark Side of the Moon to get them to be synchronized? Its not that good, but at the third lion roar.

[-Listy-]

I thought it was quite good, Dorothys eyes followed the music for On The Run, freaky ****, especially if your stoned like we were :lol:

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W00t! Officialness!

In the actual movie, the song is split into two parts, but its the whole song. Not sure how they put it in the soundtrack.

By soundtrack, I mean the entire movie in audio form, so where would it be at?

[DeusExMachina]

Oh... Well, This is just a rough estimate, but the first half should be a couple minutes into the thing, and the second half is... um... I don't remember. I'll get back to you on that.

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So do the lyrics go something like:
kind old king george sent mother a note when he heard father had gone...

[DeusExMachina]

So do the lyrics go something like:
kind old king george sent mother a note when he heard father had gone...

Thats the one. "it was just before dawn one miserable morning in black '44"

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Ah nice, good song, sounds like something off the final cut for sure...

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah, they make it fit really well into the album. Its a pretty good album, but its definitely my least favorite by Pink Floyd.

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Ah, I think OBC takes that prize for me, not a bad album, but not really good either.

[DeusExMachina]

Hmm... I actually don't have OBC. I intend to own all their albums pretty soon though.

[Johnny B. Good]

I'm stuck between The Wall, Wish You Were Here, and The Piper At the Gates of Dawn

[music_freak1290]

i love comfortably numb it is an awesome song

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I'm stuck between The Wall, Wish You Were Here, and The Piper At the Gates of Dawn
For worst album???

[Johnny B. Good]

i love comfortably numb it is an awesome song

It's my favorite song and has, I think, David Gilour's best guitar solo

[Johnny B. Good]

For worst album???

for best
I would be retarded if I thought those were bad albums

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for best
I would be retarded if I thought those were bad albums
Oh good, I was scared for a second lol :D

[Kingofdudes]

My copy of the Q magazine special edition on Floyd arrived today, so that's what I'll be reading through for a while now...loads of information in there by the looks of things. :cool:

/me still hasnt ordered it :(

[DeusExMachina]

I'm stuck between The Wall, Wish You Were Here, and The Piper At the Gates of Dawn

Lets cut the horse play. We all know WYWH is the best! :D

[Riva]

/me still hasnt ordered it :(

/you is no longer biggest floyd fan on MX :eek:

This guy in my Chem class listens to floyd. :thumb:

We spent all our revision time talking about The Wall and WYWH. :cool:

Now we are gonna fail! :upset:

[DeusExMachina]

/you is no longer biggest floyd fan on MX :eek:

This guy in my Chem class listens to floyd. :thumb:

We spent all our revision time talking about The Wall and WYWH. :cool:

Now we are gonna fail! :upset:

At least you have people with good taste at your school...the closest to good music taste at my school is led zeppelin fan boys.

[RNR]

At least you have people with good taste at your school...the closest to good music taste at my school is led zeppelin fan boys.

Hehe, there's so many of them.


I asked one what their favorite song by them way (he said Heartbreaker, a pretty well known hard rock song by them) then I said that mine was Smoke On The Water and he agreed that it was one of Zeppelin's best :rolleyes:


:smash:


Same goes with Pink Floyd. The Dark Side Of The Moon shirts are out of control.

[jpj]

Hehe, there's so many of them.


I asked one what their favorite song by them way (he said Heartbreaker, a pretty well known hard rock song by them) then I said that mine was Smoke On The Water and he agreed that it was one of Zeppelin's best :rolleyes:


:smash:


Same goes with Pink Floyd. The Dark Side Of The Moon shirts are out of control.
:lol:

There a ton of people with DSOTM shirts at my school, but I'm the only one with Animals :cool:

[-Listy-]

This is pissing me off, im the only one at my school who likes pink floyd, rest of my friends refer to them as 'hippy junkies' etc,
they have only heard another brick in the wall, you think Led Zep fanboys are bad where you live?, we have many arguements about that here, oh well its their loss if they wanna miss out on some of the best music ever made :lol: fools, they have no idea about good music

[Woodstock]

:lol:

There a ton of people with DSOTM shirts at my school, but I'm the only one with Animals :cool:
I still wear my DSOTM shirt, and when somebody asks me my favorite song from it, I say a song from a different album and they agree with me.

One day I even walked pass this girl, me wearing the shirt, and she said, "Why are you wearing a science shirt?"

[jpj]

A science shirt :confused:

I don't think I like this girl :mad:

[Otherside]

I'm getting this floyd shirt soon, I think its pretty cool. I mainly like it because it's not the same other one everyone else has.
http://infinity1.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C43593b.jpg <== front

http://infinity1.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C43593b.jpg <== back

[Gnarmageddon]

I watched the Wall like two weeks ago and it was...interesting...

I found myself watching it again later that night

[DeusExMachina]

The Wall is totally awesome.

I've got a really rad WYWH shirt. Its tye-dye, got the diver on the front, and on the back it says Wish You Were Here. Totally rad. People are all confused by it.

[Gnarmageddon]

I about puked when Pink like lops his nipple off when he's shaving all his hair


(shudder)

[Woodstock]

I'm getting this floyd shirt soon, I think its pretty cool. I mainly like it because it's not the same other one everyone else has.
http://infinity1.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C43593b.jpg <== front

http://infinity1.com/%5CImages%5CTSHIRT%5C43593b.jpg <== back
People will keep making you turn around all the time.

My DSOTM is a little different then everybody elses, but I dont really care.

[DeusExMachina]

Man, I gotta try that Smoke on the Water thing... funny stuff.

[PurpleHazer76]

amen to that...........

[Otherside]

Oops.. posted the same link twice :o

http://infinity1.com/ppic.asp?1=43593

But you're right, people will probably make me turn around alot :\

[DeusExMachina]

Thats a pretty cool shirt. I wonder if there's a shirt with the PULSE design on it...

[Otherside]

http://infinity1.com/ppic.asp?1=32397


That one?

[DeusExMachina]

No, the cover from the PULSE live album, from 1994.

[Riva]

Ok, I finally found out what you guys meant by Ummagumma being half studio and half live. You're talking about the re-released CD, hey? Yeah, I only have it on tape, but I saw the 2 CD set in my local music store. Considering picking it up, seeing as I would like to get it ripped to my comp, and the tapes are getting older and older.

[RNR]

Man, I gotta try that Smoke on the Water thing... funny stuff.

Or try it with a really obvious song.

I bet I could be like "so my favrite song of Wish You Were Here is Stairway To Heaven" and some braindead idiot will agree that it's the best on the album.

[Riva]

OMGZ, Houses Of The Holy is the BEST Pink Floyd album!!!!!!!1one

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No! In the out door, totally...n00b! :p

[Cain]

People seem to think that "The Wall" movie is too weird and doesn't make any sense, but I loved it. The whole movie gave off this totally creepy, insane aura, and the animations are just terrifying. I thought it was brilliant. Why do so many people seem to think it doesn't make any sense? Every moment made sense to me...except maybe Pink turning into Hitler.(Or maybe that's Roger Waters acknowledging privately the ridiculous amount of control he had obtained over Floyd's artistic direction at the time? Could be...could be...)

And jesus, zepfan...I've been here a month longer and you've got about a bajillion more posts and a handful of stars. What gives? I wanna be cool... :upset: You are one awesome poster, man. I don't know how you do it.

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And jesus, zepfan...I've been here a month longer and you've got about a bajillion more posts and a handful of stars. What gives? I wanna be cool... :upset: You are one awesome poster, man. I don't know how you do it.
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I just spend time here whilst "doing homework" (meaning I accomplish little in reality). 50 ppd is not really an achievement lol. I shouldn't have stars yet, but DBJ is the man :thumb: (Rep++ for sucking up lol)

I really liked the wall movie though. My friends and I analyzed it and came to the conclusion that the only part that made no sense was the ending because it was too ambiguous. Are the children gathering the bricks to rebuild the wall, or to eliminate its existence? This has bearing on the whole movie message to boot :-/

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

In through the outdoor, hah, NO one talks about that album...poor Zep :(

Yes, that movie was quite intresting, I seem to have not been mentaly aware of what was going on each time I watched it (or of anything else for that matter). I plan to watch it again, and this time pay more attention. I don't want it to spoil my image of what I already have of The Wall. When you listen to that album the first time, you get your story (or, it's like that with me anyways) and it sticks with you, I don't want to watch the movie, and then everytime I listen to the album, instead of my version, I'll have the movie version, which would suck if I ended up not liking it.

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

...if any of what I just said made sense :rolleyes:

[Cain]

:bows:
I just spend time here whilst "doing homework" (meaning I accomplish little in reality). 50 ppd is not really an achievement lol. I shouldn't have stars yet, but DBJ is the man :thumb: (Rep++ for sucking up lol)

I really liked the wall movie though. My friends and I analyzed it and came to the conclusion that the only part that made no sense was the ending because it was too ambiguous. Are the children gathering the bricks to rebuild the wall, or to eliminate its existence? This has bearing on the whole movie message to boot :-/

Good point. A good thing to keep in mind is probably the lurking presence of World War II and its history within the Floyd concept album universe. Waters moved backwards in history as far as his concepts go, tackling everyday people and their insecurities with Dark Side of The Moon, the tensions with Syd Barrett and the record company's control over creative output in Wish You Were Here, a pessimistic commentary on Communism, capitalism, and punk with "Animals," and finally Waters' father's death in World War II when he was in the British Army in "The Wall." The first animation sequence's eagle is clearly an eagle in the the Nazi mold, and there is a huge complement of war scenes at the beginning of the film. Pink is constantly watching the same war movie over and over in his hotel room. As a child, Pink is seen taking out his father's uniform and medals and putting them on. Pink is clearly fatherless as well, and this adds up to Pink's father dying in the war, just like Waters' did in real life.

When Pink turns into a Nazi-modeled dictator, like Hitler, with an army of mindless, skinheaded thugs dressed vaguely like SS members, this whole idea becomes less clear. Personally, I think an acknowledgement of Waters' hypocrisy in speaking against the dictatorship of our human desires while he was, in effect, becoming the dictator-in-chief of Pink Floyd itself is very subtly woven into this sequence. Pink's defeat is, to me, Waters' apology to Pink Floyd for usurping the band's creative input in order to fulfill his private magnum opuses.(Keep in mind also that the movie was made in '82, after Pink Floyd's creative disintigration. The lyrics that are used as a backdrop for the Pink Hitler sequence may have had a far more normal "insane rockstar" connotation within the context of the album, but in the movie, Waters may have decided to use it as a more meaningful, complicated scenario). The next album Floyd released, "The Final Cut," deals with the death of Waters' father in more detail, and the World War II imagery does not let up for a moment. Even the atmosphere of the Trial sequence makes me feel like Pink is being tried for some sort of war crime rather than adultery and insanity.

With all this in mind, and accepting that World War II and the death of Waters' father were major factors in how the eventual movie turned out, the final sequence seems to be Pink's healing of the damage caused by the Wall. The children in the scene are dressed in older-fashioned clothes, so historically this would seem to indicate Pink, once again as a child, assisting in the clean-up of town after a German air raid. So it is, in effect, Pink Floyd cleaning up the rubble that was made of his mind by the toppling of the wall and accepting his anguish at the death of his father, and clearing his mental avenues for a fresh, healthy beginning.

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

Good interpretation. The album itself seems to compare their fame more than the film, they see themselves becoming objects, instead of doing what they wanted to do, just play...but now they would become brainwashed with greed rather than make music.

Wasn't Waters really little when his father died?

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

In short, it can be described like this;

The Wall: The story of Roger Waters

so maybe despite all his best efforts of trying to apologize to the band for seeming to lead them all the time, he just released an album about himself. MY, What a wonderful guy. He must be fun to work with.

[Cain]

Good interpretation. The album itself seems to compare their fame more than the film, they see themselves becoming objects, instead of doing what they wanted to do, just play...but now they would become brainwashed with greed rather than make music.

Wasn't Waters really little when his father died?

Yeah, he was born in '44, a year before the war ended. I assume the anguish comes from the pain of growing up in war-torn, famished Great Britain without a father and never knowing who he was, rather than the loss that would have been if Waters had known him. Personally, I think that never having such an important figure in your life is more traumatizing than having your father taken from you by circumstance. I believe that Waters felt very deep anguish over it, despite the fact that he was very young when the actual loss occured.

[Cain]

In short, it can be described like this;

The Wall: The story of Roger Waters

so maybe despite all his best efforts of trying to apologize to the band for seeming to lead them all the time, he just released an album about himself. MY, What a wonderful guy. He must be fun to work with.

Well, David Gilmour still won't say what his current opinion on Waters is in interviews. Just to give an idea.

You raise a good point here, but in my opinion, the album and the movie exist on two somewhat different planes. The album is very much an anti-rock star story, whereas the movie, which was released years later, is more in line with Waters' current focus on the lack of his father circa the early Eighties. Therefore, an apology for his hypocrisy with Floyd within the movie, even when it came to the album itself, is still a plausible possibility.

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

Hmm, perhaps that explains why he's so...unfriendly?

Page was born in 1944- and look how fine he turned out. :D

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

I think it's rediculous that Waters and Gilmour hate eachother. I'm sure that if waters would have tamed his ego, everything would have been fine. But since both Gilmour and waters wanted the spotlight, I guess they just became enemies. I like Gilmour better though, he seems to be a more simpler character, nicer. Waters is a great musician, and he knows it, and wants everyone to know it....all of the time. I think he's just one of those people who you could meet, and want to punch in the face it like, two seconds. But he has a reason I guess. I don't know, lots of people grew up without fathers, parents even.

Edit: I think Richard Wright is awesome as well, he had a lot of input on the music that people don't credit him enough to.

Edit2: It's settled then, Wright and Gimore= coolest people from Pink Floyd (Mason looks kind of annoying too, so sorry to leave him out as well, he can share crackers with Waters)

[Cain]

I think it's rediculous that Waters and Gilmour hate eachother. I'm sure that if waters would have tamed his ego, everything would have been fine. But since both Gilmour and waters wanted the spotlight, I guess they just became enemies. I like Gilmour better though, he seems to be a more simpler character, nicer. Waters is a great musician, and he knows it, and wants everyone to know it....all of the time. I think he's just one of those people who you could meet, and want to punch in the face it like, two seconds. But he has a reason I guess. I don't know, lots of people grew up without fathers, parents even.

Hmm, well, I think he's mellowed out a bit with age. I do agree, though, I much prefer Gilmour. But Waters' lyrical and musical brilliance cannot be overlooked. Gilmour didn't usually write the songs. Matter of fact, on the Wall, I don't think he wrote any.

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

Gilmour didn't write any by himself, but he co-wrote Young lust, run like hell, and comfortably numb.

True, after Waters left Pink Floyd, their music kind of went, well, I don't want to say downhill, but it definetly didn't get better. He was an a.sshole but never the less, a brilliant a.sshole.

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http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Plaza/3619/thewallmovie.html
:eek: The plot thickens, nice discussion you guys are having :thumb:

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Gilmour didn't write any by himself, but he co-wrote Young lust, run like hell, and comfortably numb.

True, after Waters left Pink Floyd, their music kind of went, well, I don't want to say downhill, but it definetly didn't get better. He was an a.sshole but never the less, a brilliant a.sshole.
The Division Bell is still one of my favorite albums actually.

[~The*Lemon*Song~]

Ah! Really? I don't really like that album...it seems to gospel-y. But if you like it, that's cool, I know alot of people who do. To each his own.
I think Momentary Lapse of Reason is ok though, but only because "Learning to Fly" is on it.

Yes, I like this discussion as well, I like how it actualy deals with PInk Floyd :D
Instead of: "Omg, I LOVE DSOM!"
...it's sad, I'm a newbie, I should be saying such things.

...or should I?
I'm a smart newbie, one who actualy knows classic rock instead of claiming to and saying stairway is the best song.
But enough about me, I'm turning into Waters here.

[Riva]

Yes, no more head enlargement for you. :p

[Kingofdudes]

I think it's rediculous that Waters and Gilmour hate eachother. I'm sure that if waters would have tamed his ego, everything would have been fine. But since both Gilmour and waters wanted the spotlight, I guess they just became enemies. I like Gilmour better though, he seems to be a more simpler character, nicer. Waters is a great musician, and he knows it, and wants everyone to know it....all of the time. I think he's just one of those people who you could meet, and want to punch in the face it like, two seconds. But he has a reason I guess. I don't know, lots of people grew up without fathers, parents even.

Edit: I think Richard Wright is awesome as well, he had a lot of input on the music that people don't credit him enough to.

Edit2: It's settled then, Wright and Gimore= coolest people from Pink Floyd (Mason looks kind of annoying too, so sorry to leave him out as well, he can share crackers with Waters)

Gilmour has always been my favorite in the group, his guitarwork never stops amazing me. It would be cool if him and Roger would make up, but I dont see that happening anytime soon.

Out of the whole group, I gotta say Nick is the weakest link. From what I know, he hasnt written too many songs(or any), and his drumming wasnt anything special.

[Cain]

Hey! Why'd you change your name, Gilmour? I liked you that way...

[DeusExMachina]

:bows:
I just spend time here whilst "doing homework" (meaning I accomplish little in reality). 50 ppd is not really an achievement lol. I shouldn't have stars yet, but DBJ is the man :thumb: (Rep++ for sucking up lol)

I really liked the wall movie though. My friends and I analyzed it and came to the conclusion that the only part that made no sense was the ending because it was too ambiguous. Are the children gathering the bricks to rebuild the wall, or to eliminate its existence? This has bearing on the whole movie message to boot :-/


I'd say they're rebuilding it. If you listen to Outside The Wall on max volume, you can hear them saying "isn't this where" at the end. Likewise, if you listen to In The Flesh? at max volume, it says "we came in?" at the beginning. If you have it looped, its just like a normal sentence. My interpretation is that, even when the Wall comes down, you still go back in, and the Wall comes back up.

[DeusExMachina]

Gilmour didn't write any by himself, but he co-wrote Young lust, run like hell, and comfortably numb.

True, after Waters left Pink Floyd, their music kind of went, well, I don't want to say downhill, but it definetly didn't get better. He was an a.sshole but never the less, a brilliant a.sshole.

Thats what Waters would like you to believe. Every guitar solo on that album? Written by Gilmour. When Waters finished ABITW pt. 2, it was just an acoustic guitar. Nothing but the chord progression. Without Gilmour, it would've just been another Pigs on the Wing. Gilmour had way more influence than Waters gives him credit for.

[Cain]

I'd say they're rebuilding it. If you listen to Outside The Wall on max volume, you can hear them saying "isn't this where" at the end. Likewise, if you listen to In The Flesh? at max volume, it says "we came in?" at the beginning. If you have it looped, its just like a normal sentence. My interpretation is that, even when the Wall comes down, you still go back in, and the Wall comes back up.

That's on the album, true enough, but NOT in the movie. Read my post and tell me if you think I'm onto something, because the movie and the album exist on slightly different planes of thought as far as I'm concerned. Waters wrote the script for the movie years after the music, and may have changed the movie's scenery and progression of events to fit a current opinion that had changed since the making of the album. The album and the movie are not one and the same.

As to that little production decision, keep in mind it could just be a joke. It is where we came in. Not everything in Floyd is neccessarily a brilliant conceptual choice.

PS: therefore my conclusion at the end of the movie "The Wall" (not the album), is that the damage of the Wall's collapse is being cleaned up. There is an element of the "isn't this where we came in," in the sense that we are again seeing Pink as a young boy, but all the other things are very important. The World War II imagery is even more relevant to the movie than the rock star sequences, and it is much more integral when it comes to figuring out what's going on. There's a much deeper history to Pink's failure as an adult than simply the obvious decadence of rock star life. This is where being a history buff counts. :thumb:

[Ravyn]

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio had a Wall display during their psychedelic exhibition. The following was written on the back of the display by Roger Waters:



The Wall


In the Old Days, pre-Dark Side of the Moon,
Pink Floyd played to audiences which,
by virtue of their size, allowed an intimacy of
connection that was magical.


However, success overtook us and by 1977
we were playing in football stadiums.


The magic, crushed beneath the weight of
numbers. We were becoming addicted to
the trappings of popularity.


I found myself increasingly alienated in
that atmosphere of avarice and ego until
one night in the Olympic Stadium, Montreal,
the boil of my frustrations burst.


Some crazed teenage fan was clawing his
way up the storm netting that separated
us from the human cattle pen in front of the
stage screaming his devotion to the demi-gods
beyond his reach.


Incensed by his misunderstanding and
my own connivance, I spat my frustration in
his face.


Later that night; back at the hotel
shocked by my behaviour I was faced with a choice.


To deny my addiction and embrace that
"comfortably numb" but "magic-less" existence
or accept the burden of insight, take
the road less travelled and embark on the
often painful journey to discover who I was
and where I fit.


The Wall was the picture I drew for myself
to help me make that choice.


Roger Waters
Summer, 1995


http://www.allfloyd.com/misc/Waters.html

[Cain]

http://www.allfloyd.com/misc/Waters.html

I do not doubt that this incidence--the frustration of being a rock star--was the inspiration for the Wall. But Waters' eventual journey through his mind and his history--his figuring out "who he was and where he fit"--led him past the rock star life and back to his childhood and the death of his father. The movie even more so, as Waters was now no longer a rock star and the ideas in his head about his life being more developed: the war becomes a central feature. The problems in the present inspired Waters to look for the problems in the past, and the story changed over time to be about those historical problems. They directly influenced the problems Waters had in the present.

[DeusExMachina]

That's on the album, true enough, but NOT in the movie. Read my post and tell me if you think I'm onto something, because the movie and the album exist on slightly different planes of thought as far as I'm concerned. Waters wrote the script for the movie years after the music, and may have changed the movie's scenery and progression of events to fit a current opinion that had changed since the making of the album. The album and the movie are not one and the same.

As to that little production decision, keep in mind it could just be a joke. It is where we came in. Not everything in Floyd is neccessarily a brilliant conceptual choice.

PS: therefore my conclusion at the end of the movie "The Wall" (not the album), is that the damage of the Wall's collapse is being cleaned up. There is an element of the "isn't this where we came in," in the sense that we are again seeing Pink as a young boy, but all the other things are very important. The World War II imagery is even more relevant to the movie than the rock star sequences, and it is much more integral when it comes to figuring out what's going on. There's a much deeper history to Pink's failure as an adult than simply the obvious decadence of rock star life. This is where being a history buff counts. :thumb:

I think you definitely could be on to something. However, the movie only came out two years after the album. Waters started working on the movie pretty soon after the album came out.

[Kingofdudes]

Hey! Why'd you change your name, Gilmour? I liked you that way...

:lol: I that name made me feel lame

[Woodstock]

:lol: I that name made me feel lame
I hope you won't regret that in the future :lol:

[Cain]

I think you definitely could be on to something. However, the movie only came out two years after the album. Waters started working on the movie pretty soon after the album came out.

Yeah, ok. But it's still a smaller factor in the album too: "Bring the Boys Back Home" and all of the early "Mother" and "Babe" songs are all relevant to WWII. In addition, the sound of a plane crashing in "In The Flesh?" would also indicate this. It shows that Waters was at least thinking about the role his father's death played, although the album is clearly more rock-star-centric than the movie.

[DeusExMachina]

Agreed. The album definitely has WWII themes, but they're much more relevant in the movie. He also links the megalomaniac rockstar/WWII themes in the movie. For instance, the beginning sequence, showing scenes of the battles interspersed with the mindless mass going to the concert.

[Tangy zizzle]

What do you guys think of later Floyd albums?

Like, Division Bell and Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Personally I like them. They don't touch on the genius of earlier material, but they still decent records.

[Permanent Solution]

I like em. Still the same sound though, they learned well from Waters (I say this because he wrote most of their old stuff, and they still sound similar)

[Riva]

I agree with the consensus here. They are very good albums, (Floyd's worst is better than several bands best), but they pale in comparison to Meddle, The Wall, etc.

[+3kk!]

good abulms......just not pink floyd's standard

[thelizardkingcc]

anyone here know what kinda drums nick mason used?

[lunch998]

anyone here know what kinda drums nick mason used?

My guess would be ludwigs.

Edit: Turns out that he used Premiers for Pink Floyds prime. He used a Ludwig kit in the 80s and sometimes on live tours.

[DeusExMachina]

I think AMLOR leave something to be desired... however, I am a huge fan of The Division Bell. I think its a great album. Roger Waters, in an interview, said "its a very good imitation of pink floyd," and i'm assuming thats the closest thing to a compliment he will ever say about David Gilmour's work. Besides, if you ask me, David Gilmour's current work is way better than Roger Waters' curren work. I mean, listen to Smile, from the David Gilmour DVD, and then listen to the two new Waters songs from his website. No comparison at all. Plus, Roger Waters solo albums aren't that good. Radio KAOS is alright, but the rest are pretty average. And I am not a huge fan of The Final Cut.

[Orange Fog]

I'm going to see the Australian Pink Floyd in a few days, the trailers look awesome :) . Could somebody give me some insight on how it is overall?

[DeusExMachina]

I'm going to see the Australian Pink Floyd in a few days, the trailers look awesome :) . Could somebody give me some insight on how it is overall?

It's incredible. You won't regret going. They play great songs (as if everything by Pink Floyd wasn't great), and sound pretty much spot on. Did to me at least, but I saw them awhile ago, back when I didn't know much about music... Are they still performing DSOTM?

[Riva]

It'd be nice if the Australian Pink Floyd show would tour Aus again. :p

[Otherside]

I saw the Pink Floyd laser show last night. The whole thing was WWII based basically, except for when they were just showing laser graphics.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

What do you guys think of later Floyd albums?

Like, Division Bell and Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Personally I like them. They don't touch on the genius of earlier material, but they still decent records.

I have Dark Side of the Moon and Mometary Lapse of Reason. I listened to DSOTM and was blown away, then I listened to MLoR, and was still impressed, just not as much.

[DeusExMachina]

I saw the Pink Floyd laser show last night. The whole thing was WWII based basically, except for when they were just showing laser graphics.

Which one? I've seen The Wall and DSOTM laser shows. A couple friends of mine have also seen the Best of Pink Floyd laser show and a Jimi Hendrix vs. Pink Foyd laser show.

[Riva]

Now that would have been something to see.

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah, I woulda loved to have seen it... was out of town, unfortunately.

[^Dream~Theater^]

does anyone know how much the tickets to pulse were? someone told me they were like $2000!!

[DeusExMachina]

I sincerely doubt they were that expensive. No way they'd sell as many as they did if it cost that much money. Maybe to get really good tickets, or from a scalper, they might come to that much. As for general admission, I doubt it got much over $100.

[the mighty zep]

It's incredible. You won't regret going. They play great songs (as if everything by Pink Floyd wasn't great), and sound pretty much spot on. Did to me at least, but I saw them awhile ago, back when I didn't know much about music... Are they still performing DSOTM?

i seen them a month ago in Philadelphia PA, and they were great. They started by covering the entire DSOTM...just about nailed it. They changed money a little, and Any colour you like wasnt as accurate, but it was still incredible. The lights and screen movie they play was good to. Especially during Brain Damage :lol:

But then after the album, their was an intermission, and they played songs like SOYCD, Welcome to the machine, and about one song from every album after Syd left. Their encore was Wish you were here and Comfortably Numb. man...what a solo. It mustve been 3x longer.

But Their defintaly worth seeing. Make sure your in a seat you can get a good veiw of the video screen though.

I love how they tie their pink kangaroo into everything...good stuff

[DeusExMachina]

i seen them a month ago in Philadelphia PA, and they were great. They started by covering the entire DSOTM...just about nailed it. They changed money a little, and Any colour you like wasnt as accurate, but it was still incredible. The lights and screen movie they play was good to. Especially during Brain Damage :lol:

But then after the album, their was an intermission, and they played songs like SOYCD, Welcome to the machine, and about one song from every album after Syd left. Their encore was Wish you were here and Comfortably Numb. man...what a solo. It mustve been 3x longer.

But Their defintaly worth seeing. Make sure your in a seat you can get a good veiw of the video screen though.

I love how they tie their pink kangaroo into everything...good stuff

Yeah, thats the show I saw. Except they also did Run Like Hell as an encore. Man, that show was killer. I got the Wall t-shirt that had the hammers, but had kangaroo's for hammer heads... good stuff.

[punkster998]

PINK FLOYD SUCKS!

I'm just playing. I do think their Dark Side Of The Moon album is ok (have it on vinyl), yet that's all I like by them.

[the mighty zep]

Yeah, thats the show I saw. Except they also did Run Like Hell as an encore. Man, that show was killer. I got the Wall t-shirt that had the hammers, but had kangaroo's for hammer heads... good stuff.

I seen them. Me and my parents were argueing over what their symbol was with the rainbow. MY parents said it was a broken piece of glass, i said it was australia shaped. After they looked at a globe (2 days later), they agreed.

Did they inflate that huge kangaroo during Sorrow, i think, because that was frikkin awsome.

Run Like hell was the song before the encore. I never originally liked it much, but after seeing it live, its much better than i ever though of it.

And I dont know if theres different backround singers on their tours, but the woman we had doing the Great Gig...Dude, it blew me away. She was defintaly better than the CD, it mightve been the best part of the show...next to comfortably numb.

After Ive seen the show, and shortly after decided I will never be able to play anything orginal on guitar in my life and was a failure, ive decided to cover the entire album to. I dont know who else here plays guitar, but Id defintaly need some advice on effects. I know what he uses but
1. The Leslie Dynacord CLS222 has been stopped production and i need a similar effect like it
2. I need to know which i will need first (by most important), and i plan on getting a Marsall 30 watt amp ($250) soon, and i think that has a few on it.
3. On the Run = utter confusion on where to start
But other than that, i just about know the whole album. Still learning Any colour you like, and that is a hard *** song, and i dont have the Dynacord so its hard to tell what im even playing...but if anyone knows what im talking about, help would be appreciated.

[lunch998]

PINK FLOYD SUCKS!

I'm just playing. I do think their Dark Side Of The Moon album is ok (have it on vinyl), yet that's all I like by them.

Right, and how much of their other material have you heard?

[DeusExMachina]

PINK FLOYD SUCKS!

I'm just playing. I do think their Dark Side Of The Moon album is ok (have it on vinyl), yet that's all I like by them.

If you have nothing intelligent to say, don't say anything at all.

[DeusExMachina]

I seen them. Me and my parents were argueing over what their symbol was with the rainbow. MY parents said it was a broken piece of glass, i said it was australia shaped. After they looked at a globe (2 days later), they agreed.

Did they inflate that huge kangaroo during Sorrow, i think, because that was frikkin awsome.

Run Like hell was the song before the encore. I never originally liked it much, but after seeing it live, its much better than i ever though of it.

And I dont know if theres different backround singers on their tours, but the woman we had doing the Great Gig...Dude, it blew me away. She was defintaly better than the CD, it mightve been the best part of the show...next to comfortably numb.

After Ive seen the show, and shortly after decided I will never be able to play anything orginal on guitar in my life and was a failure, ive decided to cover the entire album to. I dont know who else here plays guitar, but Id defintaly need some advice on effects. I know what he uses but
1. The Leslie Dynacord CLS222 has been stopped production and i need a similar effect like it
2. I need to know which i will need first (by most important), and i plan on getting a Marsall 30 watt amp ($250) soon, and i think that has a few on it.
3. On the Run = utter confusion on where to start
But other than that, i just about know the whole album. Still learning Any colour you like, and that is a hard *** song, and i dont have the Dynacord so its hard to tell what im even playing...but if anyone knows what im talking about, help would be appreciated.

Good luck with that. I'm not really tech savvy, so I can't help you with the gear used, but I do know that without the keys, its going to be VERY hard to simulate the Pink Floyd sound. Especially on songs like Money. The guitar and keyboard mesh so well, its sometimes hard to tell which is which.

[+3kk!]

PINK FLOYD SUCKS!

I'm just playing. I do think their Dark Side Of The Moon album is ok (have it on vinyl), yet that's all I like by them.

floyd owns you and all the punk bands you listen to

[floydian-deadhead]

i have been takin up some nice wish you were here lately. more specifically, shine on you crazy diamond. the wind effects, the keyboard and guitar solos are amazing to me and relaxing to listen to. ive also listened to alans psychedelic breakfast alot lately (can you see the extended piece pattern going on?). the piano, while quite simple, are also pretty cool sounding. end of thought...

[TheBrokenGuitarist19]

as much as man people hate it i like the final cut, the whole album isnt the best but the song i like, and i agree, comfortably numb, wish you were here are amazing,

one thing that extremely bugs me is people that listen to brain damage without echoes following it, they go together you cant just listen to braing damage without echoes...yea anyway....

[Riva]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Everyone needs to listen to Shine On You Crazy Diamond on Delicate Sound Of Thunder.

[Otherside]

Which one? I've seen The Wall and DSOTM laser shows. A couple friends of mine have also seen the Best of Pink Floyd laser show and a Jimi Hendrix vs. Pink Foyd laser show.



Only The Wall, unfortunatly. By the time I heard about the laser shows (they were playing in a different city) we only had time to go to the last two shows, The Wall and the Metallica one. They were pretty good, except they played Sad But True for Metallica :angry:

[DeusExMachina]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Everyone needs to listen to Shine On You Crazy Diamond on Delicate Sound Of Thunder.

I don't have Delicate Sound of Thunder... :frown: But, I have PULSE, and Shine On You Crazy Diamond from that album is pretty awesome.

[punkster998]

Right, and how much of their other material have you heard?


I've heard some of their other stuff.

[Kingofdudes]

I don't have Delicate Sound of Thunder... :frown: But, I have PULSE, and Shine On You Crazy Diamond from that album is pretty awesome.

Pulse > Delicate Sound of Thunder

[Krabsworth]

i have every pink floyd album
(no one cares, i know)

[Riva]

Pulse > Delicate Sound of Thunder

I disagree once again. But then again, I don't have the DVD/video of either, so I cannot comment on stage presence.

[Kingofdudes]

I disagree once again. But then again, I don't have the DVD/video of either, so I cannot comment on stage presence.

Pulse has Dark Side of the Moon all the way through, more songs, better played(IMO), and no mullets :D

Delicate Sound of thunder is also missing something else, I just dont know what...

[Riva]

No mullets?!? :eek: Well, that just put it down in my opinion. :p

Yeah, but I love the version of Comfortably Numb and also Wish You Were Here off of Delicate Sound Of Thunder. That's why it is my favourite.

I must admit Pulse is a lot better when it comes to variety of songs.

*promises to pick up a copy off the video*

[Kingofdudes]

I also think Comfortably Numb is superior on Pulse :D

[Flopfoot]

Hi all
I've noticed that Pink Floyd is a really popular band.
I just don't quite understand them...
I've heard Run Like Hell, Another Brick in the Wall, and Wish You Were Here. I've noticed a lot of bits where there's hardly any music except some faint guitar in the background. Other bits where there's some nice chord work and thats about it. Then they put in some strange sound effects like the 'If you don't eat ur meat you can't have any pudding'. They have the odd riff which catches your attention despite being faint, but then fades away. Is there something I'm missing here?
Can some1 explain what they think is so good about Pink Floyd?

(btw, this post is not intended to be bagging out Pink Floyd or their fans. I dun reckon there's anything wrong with them. Just want to know what you think).

[Riva]

Pink Floyd are a concept band on a lot of their songs.

[Permanent Solution]

What is good about Pink Floyd is their unique sound.

[rush45]

Gilmour owns. Hey you is one of my all time favorite songs.

[lunch998]

You should probably hear more than 3 songs before you make a conclusion about the band. They have a lot of "down time" in their music sometimes but not all the time. I guess you have to get used to it.

[TheBrokenGuitarist19]

sry bout that....eclipse..now i feel stupid...yea but all of its great
and i must agree that shine on you crazy dimonds is awsome, the chorus is played evertime i start up my computer, it sweet

[Silenius]

I just heard Comfortably Numb again today, I hadn't heard it forever, and that song just proves that David Gilmour is the man.

[Riva]

What's the significance of the phrase "Piper at the Gates of Dawn"? I know it is a chapter of the "Wind in the Willows", but it also appears in the Iron Maiden song, "The Wicker Man". Any ideas?

[frkn'loud]

i think its got something to do with a piper piping early in the morning, just a theory. naa ive got no idea what it means.

btw i congratulate you, HeavyRiva on starting such a great thread, rep+

[Riva]

I have a copy of the Wind In The Willows as well. I should re-read the chapter, post haste!

[DeusExMachina]

Man... I haven't been in this forum in a little while. Anywho, I read A Wind in the Willows a long time ago, but I don't have a copy anymore. I should go buy it.

[lunch998]

Speaking of books and Pink Floyd, I want to read Animal Farm soon.

[Riva]

Yes. Someone should make a list of books Floyd was inspired by, and then we can all read them and discuss them in true fanboy fashion. :p :thumb:

[Kingofdudes]

Speaking of books and Pink Floyd, I want to read Animal Farm soon.

Me too, but I am too busy with a term paper on another book :(

[DeusExMachina]

Animal Farm is a great book. I love it. By the way, Gilmour, your new icon is totally awesome.

[Permanent Solution]

Pink Floyd sucks*

Discuss.


*Is a great band with many solid literary inspirations

[Kingofdudes]

Animal Farm is a great book. I love it. By the way, Gilmour, your new icon is totally awesome.

Thanks :)

rep +

[RNR]

Yup, I like his new one better than the old one which is the same person but at a different angle ;)

[Riva]

So, what does everyone think that the best opening lyrics for a pink floyd song are?

[Permanent Solution]

"Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?"

[PinkFloyd]

"Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day" - Time

or

"You've got to be crazy" - Dogs

I don't know.

[DeusExMachina]

One of these days, I'm going to rip you into little pieces.

[Riva]

"Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day" - Time

or

"You've got to be crazy" - Dogs

I don't know.


I defenitely agree on 'Time" as being one of the best.

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way

Or

Good Bye Blue Sky

Look, Mummy. There's an airplane up in the sky.

[DeusExMachina]

Slightly off topic, but I missed it, so, does anyone know which five songs went through the poll in round 1?

[Permanent Solution]

Metallica-Fade To Black
Tool-Sober
Iron Maiden-Fear Of The Dark
Led Zeppelin-Black Dog
Jimi Hendrix-Little Wing

[Otherside]

Yay for Metallica.

[Riva]

Yay for Led Zep.

:mad: :angry: !RETURN TO TOPIC NOW! :lol: :p

[manuscriptreplica]

You're all wrong, the best opening lyric is Astronomy Domine 'Lime and limpid green, a second scene/A fight between the blue you once knew" It also happens to be one of their best songs :cool:

[Riva]

You're all wrong, the best opening lyric is Astronomy Domine 'Lime and limpid green, a second scene/A fight between the blue you once knew" It also happens to be one of their best songs :cool:


Lyrics I don't understand scare me. :(

[Riva]

Anyways, we can make it best closing lines as well.

In which case it has to be "Time", hands down.


"The time has come, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say......."

[lunch998]

I like the end of the Trial or the end of Outside the Wall.

[halfdeadhippo]

Time, as previously mentioned, as well as:

Hey You: "Together we stand, divided we fall."
Sheep: "Get out of the road if you want to grow old."
When the Tigers Broke Free: "...And that's how the High Command took my daddy from me."

Plus more that I can't think of right now.

[DeusExMachina]

Running over the same old grounds, what have we found? the same old fears... Wish you were here.

[RNR]

I just got meddle. :D

[Broken Arrow]

I got that 5th of the Floyd albums I own, and really like it. I think Echoes is possibly a bit over-hyped, as it's really long, quite good, but nothing all that special. The rest of the album more than lives up to what people say about it though, and it flows really well (as usual for them).
I agree Meddle flows excellently. One of these Days was the first Floyd song I ever heard.:D

[onetoothwillie]

the lyrics in sheep are cool.loving the vengant sheep!lol

[DeusExMachina]

I really like Meddle. Its really eclectic, which is cool.

[onetoothwillie]

i think echo is probably my favorite

[DeusExMachina]

People, go to the best songs poll and vote for Eclipse! PINK FLOYD NEEDS YOU!

[Magicaltroll]

hey dont know if any one else has asked but i dont feel like reading 20 pages, and im not getting much reply in the trading albums over aim thread so i thought this was the best place to ask.
can anyone get me started on some pink floyd, i cant find their cd's anywhere really. it sucks. and i dont feel like buying some offline, so i was wondering if could send me a cd or two off of aol instant messenger.
id REALLY appreciate it
screen name- malignant5050
thanks in advance for any help and if theres anything i could send you in return i gladly will :)

[Magicaltroll]

^^^i have that and wish you were here i JUST got them like 10 min. ago
if u could get me some other stuff id appreciate it
sorry i didnt post it sooner

[Riva]

I can't send you them, but I'm sure you will be able to find some Pink Floyd. Even if you get them to order it in. But if you are looking for Floyd, to buy or download, try to pick up Meddle and Ummagumma, if you can.

[DeusExMachina]

I can't send you them, but I'm sure you will be able to find some Pink Floyd. Even if you get them to order it in. But if you are looking for Floyd, to buy or download, try to pick up Meddle and Ummagumma, if you can.

Meh... I'd start with something a bit more friendly to people new to Pink Floyd. Those are great albums, but when I first got Meddle (still don't own Ummagumma... :upset: ) I wasn't really into them too much. Now I love them, but I'd say the Wall is a pretty good place to start.

[ledpoisoning27]

i just saw the aus pink floyd show this weekend and let me just tell all you floyd fans out their who havnt seen it. go see it if it is still coming to your town. it is the greatest concert i have seen in a long time. they sound so much like pink floyd i forgot they were a cover band.

[Riva]

Meh... I'd start with something a bit more friendly to people new to Pink Floyd. Those are great albums, but when I first got Meddle (still don't own Ummagumma... :upset: ) I wasn't really into them too much. Now I love them, but I'd say the Wall is a pretty good place to start.


Well, he already has DSOTM, so I figured this would be a well-rounded Floyd experience.

[DeusExMachina]

Well, he already has DSOTM, so I figured this would be a well-rounded Floyd experience.

For sure. Makes sense.

Who else is angry that Eclipse didn't make it through the poll? :angry:

[Riva]

For sure. Makes sense.

Who else is angry that Eclipse didn't make it through the poll? :angry:

As long as Us and Them get through this one, I'll be able to handle it.

Apparently Pink Floyd is going to be in every poll as well.

[DeusExMachina]

Rad. Yeah, Us and Them will make it through this poll... or else... *shakes fist*

[lunch998]

I'm surprised that Eclipse even got into the 100. I love it but it can't stand alone as a great song without the rest of Dark Side.

[Woodstock]

I'm surprised that Eclipse even got into the 100. I love it but it can't stand alone as a great song without the rest of Dark Side.
Yeah, I never really expected to see Eclipse on the polls.

[JFK]

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks of the solo in 'Mother' off of 'The Wall'. Personally, I think it's one of the greatest solos ever. I just feel that it is way under recognized, but thought no one could not like it.

[guitrguy]

I like the song, but the solo has never grabbed my attention, so I would have to disagree with you.

[the mighty zep]

Its probably one of the shortest great solos ive heard.

But honestly, nobody can disagree, no other solo could sound better in that song. Its probably one of the best fit solos to a song ever made.

[vanhalen0531]

pink floyd, one of the best bands ever, nuff said

[thickasabrick]

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks of the solo in 'Mother' off of 'The Wall'. Personally, I think it's one of the greatest solos ever. I just feel that it is way under recognized, but thought no one could not like it.

i like the solo, but it's not gilmours best.

[ledfloyd_fan]

Meddle is a great cd, Fearless is one of Floyd's best songs.

[Permanent Solution]

Julia Dream is a good song.

Discuss.

[DeusExMachina]

I'm just wondering what everyone thinks of the solo in 'Mother' off of 'The Wall'. Personally, I think it's one of the greatest solos ever. I just feel that it is way under recognized, but thought no one could not like it.

I agree, I love that song. One of my favorites, and the best lyrically on the whole album, in my opinion.

[lunch998]

Meddle is a great cd, Fearless is one of Floyd's best songs.

One of These Days is a classic opener.

[Riva]

I agree, I love that song. One of my favorites, and the best lyrically on the whole album, in my opinion.


Goodbye Blue Sky is a lot more meaningful to me, lyrics wise.

[DeusExMachina]

Goodbye Blue Sky is probably more meaningful, as are several others, I'm sure, but I think Mother is the most poetic. Anyways.. VOTE US AND THEM! It looks like it won't get through, and thats just a horrible horrible thing.

[Riva]

I did, but things look grim, I'm afeared.

[DeusExMachina]

It didn't make it... I'm going to kill something right now.

[Riva]

By one vote. One vote! Argghhhh.

[DeusExMachina]

I know... its horrible. What an amazing song, too. One of Pink Floyd's best.

[Kingofdudes]

It is one of their best, and should have gone through :(

[Magnum357]

I really like David Gilmour's first solo album, it is self titled. The band Monster Magnet did a cover of his song "Theres No Way Out of Here" .. I'll let you be the judge of which version is better. (I prefer Gilmour's version)....

Pink Floyd.......... My favourite album, I would have to say is Animals. In particular the song Dogs, in my opinion, is the best from that album. I like the way it changes.. from a faster paced upbeat start .. to a mellow mid section, and then back to a fast pace, and then back again... The Nile Song is kind of heavy for a Floyd song I think, at least thats my opinion.. but it sounds a little heavier than their usual style.

Music had a lot more to it back in the day. Nowadays, especially with pop-punk being as popular as it is with the younger ones, it's no wonder there are few great bands left. Except of course the ones who are still around from years past..

Anyway this isn't so much about Floyd as it is about me bitching about new music so I'll leave you guys with one final thought.

Rob Halford is the leather wearing heavy metal god.

Do not forget this.

[Riva]

It is one of their best, and should have gone through :(


Did you vote? I didn't see your name... :glares:

[Riva]

I really like David Gilmour's first solo album, it is self titled. The band Monster Magnet did a cover of his song "Theres No Way Out of Here" .. I'll let you be the judge of which version is better. (I prefer Gilmour's version)....

Pink Floyd.......... My favourite album, I would have to say is Animals. In particular the song Dogs, in my opinion, is the best from that album. I like the way it changes.. from a faster paced upbeat start .. to a mellow mid section, and then back to a fast pace, and then back again... The Nile Song is kind of heavy for a Floyd song I think, at least thats my opinion.. but it sounds a little heavier than their usual style.

Music had a lot more to it back in the day. Nowadays, especially with pop-punk being as popular as it is with the younger ones, it's no wonder there are few great bands left. Except of course the ones who are still around from years past..

Anyway this isn't so much about Floyd as it is about me bitching about new music so I'll leave you guys with one final thought.

Rob Halford is the leather wearing heavy metal god.

Do not forget this.


Good to see you are keeping the real metal alive. :thumb:

And good to see a new poster who can actually string two sentences together. Glad to see you like Animals, you will get no argument from us, it is a very good album. :thumb:

[Kingofdudes]

I really like David Gilmour's first solo album, it is self titled. The band Monster Magnet did a cover of his song "Theres No Way Out of Here" .. I'll let you be the judge of which version is better. (I prefer Gilmour's version)....

I havent been able to listen to his s/t yet. About Face is also a good album, very much different from his work in PF, which is a good thing to here soem different stuff.

[Kingofdudes]

Did you vote? I didn't see your name... :glares:
I swear I did :confused:

[spitfirejunky]

I really like David Gilmour's first solo album, it is self titled. The band Monster Magnet did a cover of his song "Theres No Way Out of Here" .. I'll let you be the judge of which version is better. (I prefer Gilmour's version)....

Pink Floyd.......... My favourite album, I would have to say is Animals. In particular the song Dogs, in my opinion, is the best from that album. I like the way it changes.. from a faster paced upbeat start .. to a mellow mid section, and then back to a fast pace, and then back again... The Nile Song is kind of heavy for a Floyd song I think, at least thats my opinion.. but it sounds a little heavier than their usual style.

Music had a lot more to it back in the day. Nowadays, especially with pop-punk being as popular as it is with the younger ones, it's no wonder there are few great bands left. Except of course the ones who are still around from years past..

Anyway this isn't so much about Floyd as it is about me bitching about new music so I'll leave you guys with one final thought.

Rob Halford is the leather wearing heavy metal god.

Do not forget this.

You have my support as well.

[Magnum357]

Thanks.

I just wrote a lengthy reponse to the Judas Priest thread it somehow there was an error and I could not post it. That sucked.

My friend downloaded..... :lol: a Papa Roach live album last night, and I had the misfortune of hearing it..... the "singer" was praising Black Sabbath and dedicated their next song to the band...

I'd imagine Tony Iommi was shuddering backstage.. at least the nu-metal performers know about good bands... No offense to some of the kids here but... if you dont know who Black Sabbath, Judas Priest or Deep Purple are you should not be making comments about classic music.

So now that I have that out of my system...

Look for the video or audio of the song 'Wigga' by M.O.D.

Prepare to laugh your *** off :lol:

[Magnum357]

P.S..

I am not saying nu metalers LIKE good music, I am merely saying that performers are aware there are good bands out there.

[guitarded_chuck]

How about Syd Barrett? A genius songwriter, in my opinion. Pipers At the Gates Of Dawn is a great album, heavily inspired by the Beatles, especially Sgt. Pepper's. In fact, Pink Floyd was in the exact same recording studio recording PATGOD as the Beatles were in the studio recording Sgt. Pepper's.

Some other albums I love include Meddle (yea, Fearless is one of their most under rated songs, and one of my favorites), Wish You Were Here (some beautiful songs on there, and Have a Cigar), and Animals (Dogs, Sheep, and Pigs are amazing songs).

Anyone thinking of a reunion tour? I heard rumours of a '06 tour, but I doubt it, although it would be great. I never had a chance to see them play, and would love to be there on their last tour. Roger definitly won't be back, arrogant bastard he is, but it would be something similar to the Pulse tour.


Yep, I love my Floyd. :cool:


PS - For our Barrett fans.
http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/downloads/roio/TheNextProjectedSoundOf67/

[Magicaltroll]

I'm surprised that Eclipse even got into the 100. I love it but it can't stand alone as a great song without the rest of Dark Side.
yeah when i first listened to that album.... it was just... i dont know but it was a great feeling :D and i dont really see it as an album you can skip to a song on. well at least for me. becasue i see that album as one great long song.
and ive heard people say that it would be hard to get into floyd when ive only had DSOTM and WYWH a day and ive been listening to them non-stop pretty much
theyre both great albums and i cant wait to hear more albums :thumb:

[DeusExMachina]

How about Syd Barrett? A genius songwriter, in my opinion. Pipers At the Gates Of Dawn is a great album, heavily inspired by the Beatles, especially Sgt. Pepper's. In fact, Pink Floyd was in the exact same recording studio recording PATGOD as the Beatles were in the studio recording Sgt. Pepper's.

Some other albums I love include Meddle (yea, Fearless is one of their most under rated songs, and one of my favorites), Wish You Were Here (some beautiful songs on there, and Have a Cigar), and Animals (Dogs, Sheep, and Pigs are amazing songs).

Anyone thinking of a reunion tour? I heard rumours of a '06 tour, but I doubt it, although it would be great. I never had a chance to see them play, and would love to be there on their last tour. Roger definitly won't be back, arrogant bastard he is, but it would be something similar to the Pulse tour.


Yep, I love my Floyd. :cool:


PS - For our Barrett fans.
http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/downloads/roio/TheNextProjectedSoundOf67/


Barrett is great, but I prefer the later work of Pink Floyd. As for a reunion tour... well, it technically wouldn't be a reunion tour, because they never technically broke up. However, from the sounds of interviews with David and Nick (of course, roger waters getting back with them will never happen, flat out) the chances of them touring again or making another album are slim to none. But, Gilmour still does the occasional concert, so just try to catch one of those! :thumb:

[Kingofdudes]

But, Gilmour still does the occasional concert, so just try to catch one of those! :thumb:

*crosses fingers for US tour(including mississippi)*

[DeusExMachina]

Haha. I'd love to see Gilmour live, but I don't think he does any major tours anymore. I don't know too much, but I think he just does stuff like those two shows on the DVD every now and again. I really wish he'd decide to make another Pink Floyd album though... seeing them live... *drools*

[Riva]

Apparently the Aussie Pink Floyd is returning to Aus soon! :D

[guitarded_chuck]

Apparently the Aussie Pink Floyd is returning to Aus soon! :D
I got to see Aussie Floyd back in I think September. It was a pretty impressive show.

[DeusExMachina]

When was the last time they actually toured in Australia?

[Riva]

Last year. Then they hit the big time. :(

[DeusExMachina]

Aww... sad. Well, you can have bragging rights of seeing them before they got famous. Sort of. I dunno, cuz its a cover band...? How would that work exactly?

[Riva]

Aww... sad. Well, you can have bragging rights of seeing them before they got famous. Sort of. I dunno, cuz its a cover band...? How would that work exactly?
\

That's just the thing, they only toured the southern cities before they were famous. So I didn't get the chance. At least now I can though! :thumb:

[DeusExMachina]

Bummer. Well, enjoy the show!

[RNR]

Aussie floyd looks cool. They've pollished their show beyond awesomes, i've heard.

[Riva]

Yeah, they apparently are almost as good as the real thing. Almost.

*wishes Pink Floyd would tour to his tiny little town*

[Broken Arrow]

Aussie floyd looks cool. They've pollished their show beyond awesomes, i've heard.
Yeah my friend saw them in Toronto and loved it. They havent came bear my town since.:(

[DeusExMachina]

I saw them in Seattle in April, I hope they'll come near my new home.

[Riva]

What songs do they usually play?

[guitarded_chuck]

*major bumping*

Keep this thread alive people!

Here's something cool for the Floyd fans:
http://pftcme.tripod.com/id5.html

It looks pretty lame when you first look at it, but it's cool. A radio with all tons of live songs, and a lot of rare stuff. The best part is that it isn't popular, so your requests always get played.

[DeusExMachina]

Dude! Thats awesome! Yeah, this was definitely a big bump. Glad to see the thread back to life though! *checks out link*

[pineapplerider]

So, let's talk about Pink Floyd. I was listening to Comfortably Numb, off The Wall, and then I listened to it live, off Delicate Sound Of Thunder, and I must admit that it sounds better live. However, the studio version of Time sounds much better than the live version. What are your thoughts?

Also, what do you think the most haunting lyrics are in a Pink Floyd song?

I think it would have to be Comfortably Numb, Wish You Were Here, or Run Like Hell. What do you think?
i totally agree with "wish you were here"..."we're just 2 lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after"--soo shaking, i think that "eclipse" off of "dark side of the moon" is incredibly haunting. most of that album i cant listen to at night! also, has anyone every tried that rumor that each track off dark side of the moon is about each big scene in the wizard of oz (eg: the great gig in the sky to the tornado scene)

[DeusExMachina]

Don't buy the whole "synch" crap. Its a load of bull. Thats just my opinion though, some people really like it.

[Magicaltroll]

i gotta try that DSOTM and oz thing
first i gotta get the movie.... but i think that would be pretty cool to do :)


*disguised bump*

[Riva]

DSOTM works somewhat. It isn't mind blowing, and you have to make a few connections, but it is somewhat interesting. :)

[lunch998]

meh...the Dark Side/Wizard Of Oz thing is horribly overrated, although it's quite funny in moments. On the other hand though, I walked home from school yesterday when it was already dark, and I decided to put Disc 2 of The Wall on, just to see what it was like. If you've never done that before, I can really reccommend doing it, in one way, as you really get a flavour of what the album's about, and the feelings of paranoia and isolation that so much of the music conveys. On the other hand though, get ready for some seriously bad emotions if you try doing it. At the start of "Is There Anybody Out There?", I nearly jumped out of my skin.

I've listened to it at night, "Is There Anybody Out There" terrified me.

[PinkFloyd]

Yeah, they apparently are almost as good as the real thing. Almost.

*wishes Pink Floyd would tour to his tiny little town*

I would say that the aussie floyd sounds more like Pink Floyd (on record) than actaull Pink Floyd. Download some Gilmour videos from the 80s or even check out live LIP, they don't strive to recreate the sounds from the albums exact. But I saw the aussie floyd almost a year ago and they sound EXACTLY like Pink Floyd (on record).

[DeusExMachina]

Yeah, Aussie floyd sound exactly like the records, for sure. But I'd rather see the real band do something creative with what they wrote than see a cover band do the records. The Aussie show is still great, though.

[Riva]

meh...the Dark Side/Wizard Of Oz thing is horribly overrated, although it's quite funny in moments. On the other hand though, I walked home from school yesterday when it was already dark, and I decided to put Disc 2 of The Wall on, just to see what it was like. If you've never done that before, I can really reccommend doing it, in one way, as you really get a flavour of what the album's about, and the feelings of paranoia and isolation that so much of the music conveys. On the other hand though, get ready for some seriously bad emotions if you try doing it. At the start of "Is There Anybody Out There?", I nearly jumped out of my skin.


I listened to The Wall disc 2 in my room late at night. Freaked me out something chronic.

[Rusher28]

The Best Band Of All Time!!! I personaly like the Delicate Sound of Thunder verion of Comfortable Numb because the use power chords. I t gives is a better rock sound. My favorite song is Dogs, because of the depressing solos. I also like Good-Bye Blue Sky, Echoes, Comfortable Numb, Time, and Shine On You Crazy Diamond. I think that Is There Anybody Out There is the eeriest song the have. I Have every album on cd. I also have most of the DVD's and Videos. :evil:

[Magicaltroll]

yeah the wall is a pretty great cd
but it sucks because the guy i got the cd from, his cds were scratched, so both of the cds skip like every 4 seconds :upset: .... but its still a great cd :D

[Magicaltroll]

I Have every album on cd. I also have most of the DVD's and Videos. :evil:
hey maybe you can send me some of them :D :D :D
but seriously if you could give them to me id appreciate it alot
if theres any cd's your looking for i could probably get them for you.
so yeah if your interested, hit me up on aim some time
AIM screen name- malignant5050

[cfhdeathrattle666]

Although no longer my favorite band (Black Sabbath took them down to 2nd) they are still the best band out there to me. My favorite song from Pink Floyd has to be Comfortably Numb, and One of These Days being a close second. My dad saw them on the Delicate Sounds . . . and P.U.L.S.E. tours, and he said it was his favorite out of the hundred (literally) he's been to. By the way maybe you Floyd freaks will be able to tell me if there is a Delicate Sounds... or Pulse Dvd out there. I must see atleast one of the legendary concerts since more than likely(sp?) i won't be able to see them live. then again i have seen the original Black Sabbath, and I'm barely turning 17 . . .

[DeusExMachina]

Yes, PULSE has a DVD, and I'm pretty sure Delicate Sounds of Thunder does as well. Although you seem to like their more rock'n'rolly-y music, try picking up the David Gilmour DVD from 2002. It's pretty mellow and acoustic for the most part, but it has two amazing versions of Comfortably Numb.

Hehehe... "rock'n'roll-y" I crack myself up.

[RNR]

I want to get PULSE. But i've very poor so I might not get it for a while.

[Broken Arrow]

I got Delicate Sound of Thunder for $6:)

[KingofDudes]

Interesting, I read in an article that Gilmour played bass many times for Roger during recording, including the fretless on Hey You...

[Broken Arrow]

Interesting, I read in an article that Gilmour played bass many times for Roger during recording, including the fretless on Hey You...
Really. :confused:

hmmm.

[cfhdeathrattle666]

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Yes, PULSE has a DVD, and I'm pretty sure Delicate Sounds of Thunder does as well. Although you seem to like their more rock'n'rolly-y music, try picking up the David Gilmour DVD from 2002. It's pretty mellow and acoustic for the most part, but it has two amazing versions of Comfortably Numb.[QUOTE]

Well you're half right about me. I do like the last two Pink FLoyd albums (a momentary lapse of reason, division bell), but not as much as Wish You Were Here or Animals. My dad and I have been looking for those DVD's for years now (went to Sam Goody's, Best Buy, Metal Gear, etc.) and the only DVD we found was the Wall, Live at Pompei (sp?), and now Darkside of The Moon. Thanks though I must search harder now . . .

[cfhdeathrattle666]

why didn't the quote thing come out right? Anyway I'm way too paranoid to trust buying them over the net.

[Riva]

I got Delicate Sound of Thunder for $6:)


Bastard. I paid forty bucks for it.

[Schyma]

Shipping? :lol:

[Broken Arrow]

Bastard. I paid forty bucks for it.
In what currency?

I talk Cdn$

[Riva]

From a shelf. And it is in $AUS.

[Broken Arrow]

From a shelf. And it is in $AUS.
I dont know how much that is $cdn

[PinkFloyd]

I'm getting the wall live, 91,82 for x mas :cool:

[Woodstock]

Should I buy that David Gilmour Acoustic Concert DVD?

[lunch998]

I want to get Delicate Sound of Thunder, but it's 30$ American Dollars. Is it worth it?

[Broken Arrow]

I want to get Delicate Sound of Thunder, but it's 30$ American Dollars. Is it worth it?
$30 american. I dont know.

[The Haitian]

DSOTM is my favorite album. WYWH is my second.

[Riva]

I'm getting The Wall DVD for Christmas as well! As well as the CD album of Ummagumma. So know I can find out what you guys are talking about with the live album. :p

[frkn'loud]

sorry to change the subject chaps, but i was wondering if any of you have seen The Pink Floyd Experience?

i saw it the other night, theyre pretty good

[Riva]

sorry to change the subject chaps, but i was wondering if any of you have seen The Pink Floyd Experience?

i saw it the other night, theyre pretty good

Do you mean the Australian Pink Floyd?