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Purple Floyd
07-28-2005, 12:26 AM
Whatever happened to Pigonthewing82?

Riva
07-28-2005, 12:28 AM
Wish You Were Here

This song relates to the pain the band felt after Syd’s mental collapse. Basically, they wish he was still there.

The song starts out with a small clip which sounds like it is from an old B&W movie. The sound quality leads us to believe it is coming from a T.V. Then the channel changes twice, from what sounds like a advert jingle, to a faint acoustic guitar piece. Obviously, whoever is watching the T.V. has changed it to a live performance/music video. We can hear the person grunting occasionally during the intro, leading further credence to the idea that this person (Syd perhaps?) is watching T.V., possibly by himself.

The song starts in earnest when the second guitar part comes in, at a much clearer and audible level.


So, so you think you can tell,
Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?


To me, this represents the band asking if Syd can distinguish his old friends and companions. Does he still recognise them, and can he tell the difference between friend and foe? Does he still appreciate the beauty in life, or is he too far gone to ever be the Syd they knew and loved?


And did they get you trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees? Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change? And did you exchange
a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?


This refers, I believe, to the gradual descent into madness that Syd went through. “They” are most likely the public, the record company, and the embodiment of the pressure that Syd faced in his being famous. The heroes Syd once had no longer exist for him. He has lost hope. The next three lines seem to be somewhat ironic. Most people would prefer trees, cool breezes, and change. But, these “luxuries” are what eventual made Syd so distant and cold.

A walk on part in the war basically refers to the fact that Syd was part of a group, he was a member of a “brigade”, with nothing to distinguish himself from his mates. Suddenly, he was thrust into the limelight. He was the star of Pink Floyd.

It is interesting to note that most people cannot distinguish the frontman in later Floyd (Roger or David), but everyone agrees that Syd was the original frontman.


How I wish, how I wish you were here.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl,
year after year, running over the same old ground.
What have we found?
The same old fears, wish you were here.


The first line is one of immense longing. It is simply Floyd missing their dearest friend. Roger, who wrote the lyrics, believed that he and Syd were just two kindred spirits. They were “lost souls”, trapped in a circular world which they could escape. This entire verse is laden with metaphors to being trapped. The “same old ground” greets them at every turn. And for all this constant, repetitive fame, what did the band discover? The same fears, pressures and insecurities that obscurity brings. This is the illusion of fame, and Roger pierces it without hesitation. Again, he repeats his desire to have the old pal he knew back by his side. And so ends this haunting song, with a windlike effect that blends into SYOCD VI-IX

Riva
07-28-2005, 12:31 AM
Animals next. :)

I pick Pigs On The Wing (Parts One and Two)

So, that leave Dogs, Sheep and Pigs (Three Different Ones).

voodochile1989
07-28-2005, 07:40 AM
Comfortably numb is the best song pink floyd have played! especially the chorus where Gilmour goes "I..............HAVE BECOME COMFORTABLY NUMB!" and then that kickass solo!!! rock on pink floyd!!!!!

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 08:38 AM
PULSE FULL CONCERT

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JP5B8P2QQIYM2D52FM97SO8P2

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2W1HKKF2ZGX0H24N7LUKH6J908


You will need Winrar to unzip these 2 files (you can get it off www.download.com)

you need to download BOTH files and make sure they are in the same place, start with part1 it will then automatically unzip part2, and will form 1 big huge 1.3gig file.

Enjoy

magicbus
07-28-2005, 09:03 AM
Haha, remember how we were all intent on it, but we derailed it to do the Thread Cover comp that never happened for us? :lol:

I am still ready to record a cover song, even if just for the hell of it. Let's do it!

DeusExMachina
07-28-2005, 10:42 AM
I am still ready to record a cover song, even if just for the hell of it. Let's do it!
I really agree. I'd love to do a cover song. What do you want to do? We really should get it organized, it would be a ton of fun.

WheepingGuitar39, I love you.

Purple Floyd
07-28-2005, 11:11 AM
Comfortably numb is the best song pink floyd have played! especially the chorus where Gilmour goes "I..............HAVE BECOME COMFORTABLY NUMB!" and then that kickass solo!!! rock on pink floyd!!!!!

That's the spirit!

Flaminghotchino
07-28-2005, 11:57 AM
Man I would love to do a cover tune if I had recording equip.

Theres a serious lack of pianists these days..and It doesn't appear like Pink Floyd's stuff is too hard...

Does anybody know of a good site for Pink Floyd Sheet Music, thats ACCURATE?

magicbus
07-28-2005, 12:50 PM
Some songs I wouldn't mind doing: Have A Cigar, Shine On You Crazy Diamond 1-5, Hey You, Comfortably Numb, and a few others I might think of later.

temporary
07-28-2005, 04:04 PM
PULSE FULL CONCERT

http://s45.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JP5B8P2QQIYM2D52FM97SO8P2

http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2W1HKKF2ZGX0H24N7LUKH6J908


You will need Winrar to unzip these 2 files (you can get it off www.download.com)

you need to download BOTH files and make sure they are in the same place, start with part1 it will then automatically unzip part2, and will form 1 big huge 1.3gig file.

Enjoy

SWEET! Thanks a ton.

HeavyRiva: Great job on WYWH.

thunderzstruck
07-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Some songs I wouldn't mind doing: Have A Cigar, Shine On You Crazy Diamond 1-5, Hey You, Comfortably Numb, and a few others I might think of later.


Hey You would be awesome to cover

Jimi Haze
07-28-2005, 04:30 PM
Hey You would be awesome to cover
Money...

temporary
07-28-2005, 05:55 PM
You will need Winrar to unzip these 2 files (you can get it off www.download.com)

Oh, crud! Winrar is a Windows only program. Do you know of a Mac equivalent?

Riva
07-28-2005, 05:58 PM
Heh, I'd love to do a cover song(s) also. Also, just updated the first post, if you guys want to have another look. :)

Also, get cracking on those Animals songs!

Pigs (Three Different Ones) and Sheep are still up for grabs.

DeusExMachina
07-28-2005, 06:14 PM
I'd love to cover Hey You or Time, if people are up with those. I know the guitar for Time, and know parts of Hey You. I'm sure I could learn the rest pretty easily.

By the way, WheepingGuitar39, you are my hero. The video is awesome.

moaner
07-28-2005, 06:20 PM
Heh, I'd love to do a cover song(s) also. Also, just updated the first post, if you guys want to have another look. :)

Also, get cracking on those Animals songs!

Pigs (Three Different Ones) and Sheep are still up for grabs.

Pigs is seriously mine. I love that.

MetalMilitiaMan
07-28-2005, 06:24 PM
. . i think pink floyd . . played a little while ago in anaheim,CA . . with the original members . . . . im pretty sure they did . . haha .

moaner
07-28-2005, 06:25 PM
. . i think pink floyd . . played a little while ago in anaheim,CA . . with the original members . . . . im pretty sure they did . . haha .

you're extremely wrong.

they did play in london for live 8, however.

MetalMilitiaMan
07-28-2005, 06:30 PM
. . im glad im wrong . . . i would of been pissed if i missed that

. . that would of been awesome to be there live for the live 8 though.

Riva
07-28-2005, 06:31 PM
. . i think pink floyd . . played a little while ago in anaheim,CA . . with the original members . . . . im pretty sure they did . . haha .

As moaner said, they haven't yet played anywhere in this decade with the original members. You might have heard of either Beyond The Darkside or the Australian Pink Floyd Experience, both of which are PF tribute bands from Australia. :D

DeusExMachina
07-28-2005, 06:37 PM
So, I finally got around to actually watching that video WheepingGuitar put up, as opposed to just listening to it, and the quality is pretty good. However, am I the only one bothered by a) the second drummer that isn't Nick Mason, and b) the guitarist that is not David Gilmour who's playing lead, and doing solos?

Lunch
07-28-2005, 08:22 PM
Riva - Pigs on the Wing (Parts 1 &2)
Med - Dogs

I, as usual, will not particpate, rather I will post this and just act important.

zetabossio
07-28-2005, 08:31 PM
I have always been here
I have always looked out from behind the eyes
It feels like more than a lifetime
Feels like more than a lifetime

Sometimes I get tired of the waiting
Sometimes I get tired of being in here
Is this the way it has always been?
Could it ever have been different?

Do you ever get tired of the waiting?
Do you ever get tired of being in there?
Don't worry, nobody lives forever,
Nobody lives forever


do you know this one . i know its a crazy song but i think its really deep.

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 09:03 PM
Oh, crud! Winrar is a Windows only program. Do you know of a Mac equivalent?
ouch.. mac..
im going to try and find out.
im sure there's something that will extract .rar's for a mac

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 09:07 PM
So, I finally got around to actually watching that video WheepingGuitar put up, as opposed to just listening to it, and the quality is pretty good. However, am I the only one bothered by a) the second drummer that isn't Nick Mason, and b) the guitarist that is not David Gilmour who's playing lead, and doing solos?
yes i actually am bothered by that
when i listened to the last part of the brick in the wall solo on my Pulse Album
for like 5 years i kept saying
holy hell gilmour is amazing on that
and i was like ... WHAT THE....
THATS NOT GILMOUR!!! when i saw the video
but oh well
and the 2nd drummer bothers me abit but he's more percussions and weird suonds
there's also a 2nd keyboardists if you didnt notice lol

Purple Floyd
07-28-2005, 09:11 PM
Who is that other guitarist? I've been trying to figure it out for ages.

His solo on ABITW was even better than Daves in my opinion.

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 09:11 PM
As moaner said, they haven't yet played anywhere in this decade with the original members. You might have heard of either Beyond The Darkside or the Australian Pink Floyd Experience, both of which are PF tribute bands from Australia. :D
I saw australian pink floyd at a huge hockey arena, i was impressed by them
but then i saw Canadian pink floyd at a bar..
canadian pink floyd DESTROYED australian pink floyd :lol:
canadian pink floyd played ALL of Dark side, Wish you were here, Animals, The Wall and did a couple of other songs. (Astronomy Domine.. and some more recent ones too)
The guitarist was amazing.
wow

DeusExMachina
07-28-2005, 09:17 PM
Who is that other guitarist? I've been trying to figure it out for ages.

His solo on ABITW was even better than Daves in my opinion.
His second solo in Learning to Fly is jaw dropping.

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 09:17 PM
Who is that other guitarist? I've been trying to figure it out for ages.

His solo on ABITW was even better than Daves in my opinion.
yes it was better lol
Tim Renwick
he was with them at Live 8

Riva
07-28-2005, 09:51 PM
I saw australian pink floyd at a huge hockey arena, i was impressed by them
but then i saw Canadian pink floyd at a bar..
canadian pink floyd DESTROYED australian pink floyd :lol:
canadian pink floyd played ALL of Dark side, Wish you were here, Animals, The Wall and did a couple of other songs. (Astronomy Domine.. and some more recent ones too)
The guitarist was amazing.
wow

Beyond the Darkside, the other Aussie floyd tribute, were amazing also. They played all of DSotM and WYWH, most of Animals and the Wall, and did songs from PATGOD, MLOR, Div Bell, and Obscured By Clouds. They didn't have any More though. :(

The saxophonist was female, so she didn't have a mullet. She was great, though.

DeusExMachina
07-28-2005, 10:19 PM
I've only seen the Aussie Floyd, but I really liked them.

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 10:24 PM
Beyond the Darkside, the other Aussie floyd tribute, were amazing also. They played all of DSotM and WYWH, most of Animals and the Wall, and did songs from PATGOD, MLOR, Div Bell, and Obscured By Clouds. They didn't have any More though. :(

The saxophonist was female, so she didn't have a mullet. She was great, though.
lol what's with the mullet guy
Scott Page was only with Floyd in 1988 for Delicate Sound of Thunder
every other time it's been the same guy in Money Us and Them, Shine on.., Live 8, Pulse
Dick Parry


all the Floyd tributes are AMAZING
but i dunno.. their not.. Floyd.

Lunch
07-28-2005, 10:25 PM
I saw the mullet guy do his sax solo on VH1 the other day,

WheepingGuitar39
07-28-2005, 10:43 PM
I saw the mullet guy do his sax solo on VH1 the other day,
lol i have it on my computer..

he's very... 80's...
even the way he moves

thunderzstruck
07-29-2005, 12:39 AM
Riva - Pigs on the Wing (Parts 1 &2)
Med - Dogs

I, as usual, will not particpate, rather I will post this and just act important.


:lol:

That's my philosophy on mx too!

WheepingGuitar39
07-29-2005, 08:20 AM
for Obi One Kenodi

http://www.sharewareplaza.com/RAR-for-MAC-OS-X-download_25681.html

temporary
07-29-2005, 09:45 AM
Thanks a TON! I can't wait.

So, I finally got around to actually watching that video WheepingGuitar put up, as opposed to just listening to it, and the quality is pretty good. However, am I the only one bothered by a) the second drummer that isn't Nick Mason, and b) the guitarist that is not David Gilmour who's playing lead, and doing solos?

Yeah, I've got the Delicate Sound of Thunder concert on my computer, and I was really annoyed about the second drummer getting so much screen time, and the second guitarist doing the awesome solo at the end of Learning to Fly. Oh well...

DeusExMachina
07-29-2005, 09:50 AM
Yeah, when I learned it wasn't Gilmour playing that second solo... I was heartbroken.

temporary
07-29-2005, 09:54 AM
Eh, at least Mason did the drum solo.

WheepingGuitar39
07-29-2005, 10:58 AM
Yeah, when I learned it wasn't Gilmour playing that second solo... I was heartbroken.
tell me about it :(

btw, did you notice that plane at the end of On The Run, just before Time
it just flies through the arena and blows up RIGHT over a bunch of fans
what's up with that

DeusExMachina
07-29-2005, 12:55 PM
The plane is because that's what the song is supposed to be about. You hear the panting and the running and the weird voice, right? Well, it's supposed to be an airport, where the running and panting is a guy trying to get to his flight. The weird talking is someone talking on a loud speaker thingie. Anywho, he doesn't manage to make it, and misses his flight. Lucky him, however, as you hear the plane crashing at the end of the song. So, the plane was supposed to represent that.

Lunch
07-29-2005, 12:56 PM
I never knew that, or would have guessed.

WheepingGuitar39
07-29-2005, 03:34 PM
The plane is because that's what the song is supposed to be about. You hear the panting and the running and the weird voice, right? Well, it's supposed to be an airport, where the running and panting is a guy trying to get to his flight. The weird talking is someone talking on a loud speaker thingie. Anywho, he doesn't manage to make it, and misses his flight. Lucky him, however, as you hear the plane crashing at the end of the song. So, the plane was supposed to represent that.
Yea but..
like.. didnt people get burned when that thing blows up?

moaner
07-29-2005, 03:47 PM
Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.

The "pig" refers to the greedy, thoughtless capitalist, interested only in looking richer and exercising more power. Roger laughs in the face of these people, pointing out what a joke they are- their image of success and having all that they want is a big farce.

And when your hand is on your heart,
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost a joker,
With your head down in the pig pen,
Saying "Keep on digging."
Pig stain on your fat chin.
What do you hope to find.
When you're down in the pig mine.

The "pig" is able to give commands to those like him (those in the pig pen) since he is richer and more powerful than they are. They, like him, are desperate to assert themselves in society. Roger asks his hypothetical character what he really thinks he is achieving pulling these strings.

You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.
It should be funny, that the pig is so pathetic, but in reality, it’s a bit sad really.

Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You ****ed up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Imagine an elderly woman. She is sickened by bikinis, the F word and (horror of horrors) rock musicians, with their dirty long hair, foul mouths and loud music. Surely it shouldn't be allowed!

However, once again Roger makes a mockery of this cold woman (radiating glass being a very effective metaphor, for me at least), pointing out that she's barely worth laughing at (Almost worth a quick grin). On top of this, Roger suggests this woman has no real skills at all- she can make herself look presentable (hot stuff with a hit pin) and that's about it- despite her feelings that she is doing society a favour, she actually contributes nothing.

The "you like the feel of steel" lines probably suggest the inclination of these people to assert their authority through whatever means necessary.

Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.

A bit more blunt now. Whitehouse was a person who complained about sex and violence on television and (or so I believe, I wasn't actually there :D) led a campaign against this. Roger thought this was a bit of a joke really- what right had she to tell people what they could and couldn't see? Roger makes a mockery of this woman- the line "house proud town mouse" to me being the most cutting, telling us she's nothing more than a housewife with ideas above her station.

You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet

Think of a "Hyacinth Bucket" type of person. For those Americans who don't know who she is, she was a character in a British comedy about a woman of humble origins who tried much too hard to be respectable and posh, much to her neighbour's and vicar's annoyance. The woman was very much "stiff upper lip" and always entirely "proper".

And do you feel abused?

Do the "offensive" images on television really make you feel so terrible? Is it really that much of a problem to you?

....! .....! .....! .....!

Oink.

You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.

People should resist their urges and pretend that they don't think about sex, violence etc- maintaining their "charade" of being "good", "moral" people.

Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.

You're intentions are good, but its pathetic that you feel so strongly inclined to "protect" people from these things.

Modestbob
07-29-2005, 03:51 PM
http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/29th06200503.htm
^Check this out

Apprentlly Jonny Depp would like to do a movie on Syd Barrett.

moaner
07-29-2005, 03:54 PM
http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/29th06200503.htm
^Check this out

Apprentlly Jonny Depp would like to do a movie on Syd Barrett.
I'd probably have evry mixed feelings about that.

Schyma
07-29-2005, 03:58 PM
I really hope he does it. Johnny Deep's a great actor and I'd love to see a movie about Syd. :thumb:

WheepingGuitar39
07-29-2005, 04:04 PM
That is AMAZING
A M A Z I N G

Johnny B. Good
07-29-2005, 04:36 PM
Id like to see a Syd Barrett movie

robo2448
07-29-2005, 04:52 PM
Id like to see a Syd Barrett movie

Me too. It would be cool. I'd like to know more about Barrett.

appreciate_it
07-29-2005, 05:20 PM
i personally think johnny depp is a great actor. The only thing is, i hope we don't get teenage girls thinking Syd Barrett was anything like Johnny depp, you know.. and then we'll have all the teenage girls running round with Pink t-shirts on.. but im sure that wont happen.... But that would be great, hes a great actor and a good guy.

Purple Floyd
07-29-2005, 05:29 PM
That'd be cool I guess...

I just saw Willy Wonka yesterday, and boy is that one phucked up movie. I had to double check I wasn't tripping on acid when I saw some of those oompa loompa songs.

robo2448
07-29-2005, 06:04 PM
I just saw Willy Wonka yesterday, and boy is that one phucked up movie. I had to double check I wasn't tripping on acid when I saw some of those oompa loompa songs.

I heard that movie is amazing if you're high.

Purple Floyd
07-29-2005, 06:13 PM
I heard that movie is amazing if you're high.

Definitely

Does anyone have any other Floyd concert besides Pulse, Live in Venice, and The Wall bootleg?

moaner
07-29-2005, 06:23 PM
Definitely

Does anyone have any other Floyd concert besides Pulse, Live in Venice, and The Wall bootleg?

the best?

Pompeii.

robo2448
07-29-2005, 06:30 PM
the best?

Pompeii.

/adds to wishlist.

//realizes has already added to wishlist a hundred times but never finds it :upset:

RNR
07-29-2005, 06:33 PM
Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.

Purple Floyd
07-29-2005, 06:33 PM
I bought Pompei a while ago. Worth every penny.

Purple Floyd
07-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.

Yeah man, when I first heard that song, I was like wtf? :lol: :confused: :angry:

None of his lyrics really make that much sense though.

RNR
07-29-2005, 06:37 PM
No doubt that Rodger and David were brilliant writers. Just not Syd.

robo2448
07-29-2005, 06:40 PM
Bike is a catchy song though, you've got to give him credit for that. His lyrics don't make any sense, but their hilarious to listen to.

/runs before Schyma sees this discussion.

temporary
07-29-2005, 07:00 PM
No doubt that Rodger and David were brilliant writers. Just not Syd.

I agree, but I'd still love to see Depp in a movie about him. He's such an enigmatic character...

pigonthewing82
07-29-2005, 07:24 PM
In my opinion Syd was a great writer, I mean yes a lot of his stuff does not make sense, but his stuff does tend to spark an emotion in you, and it defenetly, or at least for me, gets you thinking creativly. I mean you know exactly how down Syd was feeling when he wrote Jugband Blues or how happy (or high) he was when he wrote Bike. His stuff is suppose to speak to your soul instead of your head. Why I think Gilmour was such a good replacment for Syd is because his guitar riffs and solo's speak to your soul the way Syd's lyrics did.

Purple Floyd
07-29-2005, 07:26 PM
Hey your back! How did that whole court thing go, or whatever happened?

pigonthewing82
07-29-2005, 07:33 PM
Hey your back! How did that whole court thing go, or whatever happened?

Yeah I've been busy, I haven't been home for more then 2 days all summer. Yeah they dropped the charges they said there wasn't enough evidence (as there shouldn't be since I didnt do it) that I destroyed the property in that building, as there shouldn't be since I didn't do it.

Since then I've compleated my Pink Floyd collection by Picking up Delicate Sound of Thunder, whitch is very good, I was supprised to see One of These Days on there.

WheepingGuitar39
07-29-2005, 08:11 PM
/adds to wishlist.

//realizes has already added to wishlist a hundred times but never finds it :upset:
man
have you guys heard of limewire

i got Echoes Part 1 and 2, and One of these days, all live in Pompeii (videos)
off of limewire

ATM
07-29-2005, 08:30 PM
Limewire is great. I got live in pompeii from it, as well.

Corn Dog
07-29-2005, 10:49 PM
Live in Venice owns

Rusty_Shacklefur
07-29-2005, 11:17 PM
you know i really dont like syd that much. i wouldnt be too interested in a movie about him either. i just dont see why anybody would call him a "genious"

Lunch
07-29-2005, 11:28 PM
Schyma is going to upset when he sees all this. You guys should watch out.

Schyma
07-29-2005, 11:57 PM
Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.
Oh and this is coming from the guy you loves the lyric "When I drink by myself I perfer to be alone". :rolleyes:

Some of his lyrics really weren't meant to be takin seriously. His lyrics are full of imagry, they're catchy, playful, humorous it's like they give the perceptive lens of LSD. Perfect for psychedelic music and I'm sure that was his purpose too.
you know i really dont like syd that much. i wouldnt be too interested in a movie about him either. i just dont see why anybody would call him a "genious"Opinion not counted for considering you don't even know how to spell "genius". :rolleyes:

Lunch
07-29-2005, 11:58 PM
^See, I told you.

WheepingGuitar39
07-30-2005, 12:03 AM
Syd Barrett was weird.
He was a genius in his own way, his lyrics were marvelous like Roger said
and he had this musical talent that was pretty **** weird like David said

They both said that he had this ability to always come up with some words and a melody, he wouldnt have to search for them, they were just "there"

PinkFloyd
07-30-2005, 12:03 AM
Oh and this is coming from the guy you loves the lyric "When I drink by myself I perfer to be alone". :rolleyes:

Some of his lyrics really weren't meant to be takin seriously. His lyrics are full of imagry, they're catchy, playful, humorous it's like they give the perceptive lens of LSD. Perfect for psychedelic music and I'm sure that was his purpose too.
Opinion not counted for considering you don't even know how to spell "genius". :rolleyes:

you are a b i t c h

moaner
07-30-2005, 06:01 AM
I like syd. Some of his stuff is really fun... And that riff off interstellar overdrive is just great.

Purple Floyd
07-30-2005, 10:45 AM
you are a b i t c h

We try to keep this a 'happy' thread, no flaming.

DrumStick
07-30-2005, 11:51 AM
Pink Floyd has done a lot for my influences in the type of music my band and I like to record and write. One of the things I think I like most about them is the variety of songs they put out. One mood, or different sort of writing style after the other... Hehe... Bike was a great song, lol.

Dunno what my favourite Pink Floyd song would be... like too many. :lol:

DeusExMachina
07-30-2005, 12:11 PM
Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.
True, I see your point. I still like Barrett's work, I just don't think he was as good as Gilmour or Waters.

If they make a movie about Syd Barrett, I wouldn't mind. If they make a movie about Syd Barrett starring Johnny Depp, I will have to kill something. Namely, Johnny Depp. What a pompous twit.

pigonthewing82
07-30-2005, 01:46 PM
I think Syd had a great sense of rytheme. Intersteller Overdrive proves it. I think albums like Atom Heart Mother would be much better with some Syd imput, but I can't really find much of a place for him once they got started on their Dark Side of the Moon or Wall sound. Syd's lyrics may be just nonsense, but I find meaning in a lot of them. The thing about psychidellic rock is your suppose to find what the songs mean to you, not what the artist is trying to say. They write in nonsense so you develop a more abstract connection to the song. Kind of like Salvidar Dali's paintings (I think thats how you spell his name). And a lot of other bands do this too. I mean we don't in fact all live in a Yellow Submarine, but that doesn't mean you can't find meaning in it.

some green guy
07-30-2005, 01:55 PM
Pink Floyd rules. One of my favorite bands.

DeusExMachina
07-30-2005, 02:21 PM
Pink Floyd rules. One of my favorite bands.
Welcome to the forums.

Pigsonthewing, where have you been? Something about a trial or something? Everything ok?

Anyways, I agree that part of psychadelia is finding your own personal meaning in a song, but I think that Waters was better at making me do that than Barrett. The lyrics from Echoes, or a lot of DSOTM, or from WYWH (the song specifically) don't really have any absolutely set in stone meaning, but I find my own meaning in them. Barrett's lyrics didn't have that same effect on me. You use the example of Yellow Submarine, but that song doesn't really effect me at all in terms of the lyrics.

pigonthewing82
07-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Welcome to the forums.

Pigsonthewing, where have you been? Something about a trial or something? Everything ok?

Anyways, I agree that part of psychadelia is finding your own personal meaning in a song, but I think that Waters was better at making me do that than Barrett. The lyrics from Echoes, or a lot of DSOTM, or from WYWH (the song specifically) don't really have any absolutely set in stone meaning, but I find my own meaning in them. Barrett's lyrics didn't have that same effect on me. You use the example of Yellow Submarine, but that song doesn't really effect me at all in terms of the lyrics.

Yeah the trial went great they dropped the charges because they said they didn't have enough evidence against me (as they shouldn't have). I've just been really busy, I've only been home about 2 or 3 days since the summer began. And yeah I see where your coming from with Waters lyrics. I mean there is nothing like listening to somthing like the Wall or Dark Side of the Moon from begining to end. Just the way all the albums lyrics blend together by the end is amazing. Water's does write very abstractly at times, but his way of writing abstractly is much different from Syd's.

rocker128
07-30-2005, 02:43 PM
The wall live and wish you were here, 2 of thier best albums no doubt about it, the wall really made me interested in floyd, as for comfortably numb, come on scissor sisters why the remake??? BOO! Origional is the best no argument.

Wannabe Steve Harris
07-30-2005, 03:58 PM
Nice!

I will tell ya'll something about Waters and his lyrics.

For truly haunting incredible lyrics, check out the songs "Two Suns in the Sunset" and "The Final Cut" off the underrated album, The Final Cut. Maybe the album is too meloncholy for the general majority of Floyd fans, and is admittingly musically adventurous, but those two songs are amazing. I happen to love the whole album, and as sick of people are of the conceptual design of most of Floyd's albums, it would be a sin for hardcore Floyd fans to not give that album some love.

The Final Cut is without a doubt one of the most underrated albums of all time, and not just as a PF album. I started worshipping that disc in 1986 and it still remains in my top 10 of all time, with the title track being my favorite.

moaner
07-30-2005, 05:34 PM
The Final Cut is without a doubt one of the most underrated albums of all time, and not just as a PF album. I started worshipping that disc in 1986 and it still remains in my top 10 of all time, with the title track being my favorite.

Its a horrible album that i really cannot stand to listen to. Waters "singing" consitutes little more than rhythmic prose, and musically it just bores me.

I think theres a reason not many people rate it.

Marzcho
07-30-2005, 05:42 PM
What if Syd made love with Waters?

Follow The Reaper
07-30-2005, 05:42 PM
What if you had a brian?

robo2448
07-30-2005, 05:56 PM
I think I'll get The Final Cut eventually. Everyone seems to either feel it's really good and underrated, or a piece of crap. I think I'll give it a chance.

MBS
07-30-2005, 06:23 PM
What if you had a brian?

Ironic, isn't it?

Pigs: Didn't you go on trial when you and your sister were in that one warehouse or something?

Follow The Reaper
07-30-2005, 06:26 PM
Haha, that was pretty stupid.

MBS
07-30-2005, 06:37 PM
I listened to Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Meddle today, in a row :cool:.

robo2448
07-30-2005, 06:43 PM
I listened to Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Meddle today, in a row :cool:.

I love listening to different Floyd albums in a row. It's so cool having Floyd marathons :cool:

pigonthewing82
07-30-2005, 06:45 PM
Ironic, isn't it?

Pigs: Didn't you go on trial when you and your sister were in that one warehouse or something?

Yeah well the first time we went we couldn't get to the trial because half the people didn't bring lawyers, because I guess they didn't realize we were being tried as adults. So it got pushed back to july 6th (my birthday yay) and the dismissed the charges well we still had to pay for the damages but I didn't get put on probation or anything. I just think its funny that the things I actually did do (going into the factory and running from the cop) I didn't get anything for, but the thing I didn't do (the damages) I got charged for, but I'm not on probation so I can't complain.

Oh yeah and I think that Comfertably Numb off a Delicate Sound of Thunder is the best version of it, anybody agree?

The Moor
07-30-2005, 06:48 PM
I love listening to different Floyd albums in a row. It's so cool having Floyd marathons :cool:

I think its about time for a Floyd Marathon myself. I think I'll start with Animals :)

Follow The Reaper
07-30-2005, 06:50 PM
I did that yesterday, I love doing it.


EDIT: 6000 post, that's two awesome post numbers in a row, talk about luck!

MBS
07-30-2005, 06:55 PM
Yeah well the first time we went we couldn't get to the trial because half the people didn't bring lawyers, because I guess they didn't realize we were being tried as adults. So it got pushed back to july 6th (my birthday yay) and the dismissed the charges well we still had to pay for the damages but I didn't get put on probation or anything. I just think its funny that the things I actually did do (going into the factory and running from the cop) I didn't get anything for, but the thing I didn't do (the damages) I got charged for, but I'm not on probation so I can't complain.

Oh yeah and I think that Comfertably Numb off a Delicate Sound of Thunder is the best version of it, anybody agree?

/nods head and pretends to know about what you're talking about.

I haven't heard it off Delicate Sound of Thunder.

Follow The Reaper
07-30-2005, 06:57 PM
You should definately get it, it's great.

pigonthewing82
07-30-2005, 07:04 PM
/nods head and pretends to know about what you're talking about.

I haven't heard it off Delicate Sound of Thunder.

:lol: Yeah its a long story.

But yeah I would pick up Delicate Sound of Thunder. I originally wasn't going to buy it, and I only did because I was sick of that being the only gap in my colletion, but it was worth it, and then some. Every track is great.

robo2448
07-30-2005, 07:26 PM
:lol: Yeah its a long story.

But yeah I would pick up Delicate Sound of Thunder. I originally wasn't going to buy it, and I only did because I was sick of that being the only gap in my colletion, but it was worth it, and then some. Every track is great.

Is it from MLOR tour without Roger?

pigonthewing82
07-30-2005, 07:40 PM
Is it from MLOR tour without Roger?

I think so, I'm don't listen to post Waters stuff much, so I'm not sure but I don't think I saw any tracks from the Division Bell.

robo2448
07-30-2005, 07:45 PM
Pulse is the post-division bell tour, so if it doesn't include Waters, I think it has to be the MLOR tour. I'll probably get that eventually too.

Broken Arrow
07-30-2005, 07:47 PM
DSOT is post Waters.

WheepingGuitar39
07-31-2005, 05:40 AM
Delicate Sound of Thunder is the live recording of the Momentary Lapse of Reason tour in 1988
Waters was not there.

markface
07-31-2005, 08:28 AM
-hasn't read the rest of the thread.

Anyone see Pink Floyd at Live 8? Man, it was worth watching 12 hours of shitty wannabe bands to see them play together once more.

robo2448
07-31-2005, 09:19 AM
-hasn't read the rest of the thread.

Anyone see Pink Floyd at Live 8? Man, it was worth watching 12 hours of shitty wannabe bands to see them play together once more.

I watch that performance over and over again on aol.

markface
07-31-2005, 09:30 AM
Me too

Except Firefox is a bitch and won't load it, so I have to open up IE

Kingofdudes
07-31-2005, 03:31 PM
Oh yeah and I think that Comfertably Numb off a Delicate Sound of Thunder is the best version of it, anybody agree?
Great timing to say that, cause I just got done ripping this:
hxxp://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31ZUWGRRUMMDC0T7UKKRIAMAXF
This is my second favorite version of it.

David Gilmour - Comfortably numb(Columbian Volcano Relief Concert 9.2.86)

edit: nice write up med

Bad Blood
07-31-2005, 03:40 PM
Me too

Except Firefox is a bitch and won't load it, so I have to open up IE

I can remember being sat there and just staring in amazement at the TV with a tingle going down my spine. They were awesome.

WheepingGuitar39
07-31-2005, 04:10 PM
Great timing to say that, cause I just got done ripping this:
hxxp://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31ZUWGRRUMMDC0T7UKKRIAMAXF
This is my second favorite version of it.

David Gilmour - Comfortably numb(Columbian Volcano Relief Concert 9.2.86)

edit: nice write up med
Amazing
what's your first favorite in that case? lol

i had this version of Gilmour alone doing Comf Numb and a very special person joins him on that song for the drums. but I lost it... im gonna try to find it and upload it
(it's just the song, no video :p)

Kingofdudes
07-31-2005, 04:55 PM
Amazing
what's your first favorite in that case? lol

i had this version of Gilmour alone doing Comf Numb and a very special person joins him on that song for the drums. but I lost it... im gonna try to find it and upload it
(it's just the song, no video :p)
Pulse is my favorite, the sound of it is just so massive and swallows me up. The reason why I like that video is because the solo on it has an edge to it, which isnt something you see out of Gilmour normally.

Schyma
07-31-2005, 05:57 PM
Great write up Med. :thumb:

Purple Floyd
07-31-2005, 10:06 PM
Pulse is my favorite, the sound of it is just so massive and swallows me up. The reason why I like that video is because the solo on it has an edge to it, which isnt something you see out of Gilmour normally.

I cannot put my finger on it now (no pun intended), but there is something deep inside that solo that's more than just guitar playing. It's almost as if the guitar is communicating, connecting with you, but in a language you can't understand.

PinkFloyd
08-01-2005, 12:00 AM
Good write up Med, I think Dogs is one of the greatest written songs of all time. The lyrics, the music... *goes of another listen*

pigonthewing82
08-01-2005, 12:08 AM
I cannot put my finger on it now (no pun intended), but there is something deep inside that solo that's more than just guitar playing. It's almost as if the guitar is communicating, connecting with you, but in a language you can't understand.

I know exactly what you mean. I mean the fist solo is so calm, so relaxing, peaceful, its almost like your floating. Then comes the second whitch just takes you on such a ride until that finish when he just goes nuts on guitar. Those two solos are not just two of the best solo's in music, but one of the most beautiful peices of art of all time.

MBS
08-01-2005, 12:59 AM
I cannot put my finger on it now (no pun intended)

Shut up, that was intended and you know it. :p

The tone on Comfortably Numb is incredible.

DeusExMachina
08-01-2005, 01:11 AM
I heart comfortably numb.

Illmatic
08-01-2005, 01:15 AM
I prefer the first solo in Comfortably Numb for some reason. Feels a little more epic.

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 01:28 AM
I prefer the first solo in Comfortably Numb for some reason. Feels a little more epic.

I do to, it's a little more 'light'.

pigonthewing82
08-01-2005, 01:33 AM
Yeah I like the first solo more too. I mean nobody but Gilmour could write a solo like that one. It just seems to be played more from the soul then the second.

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 01:41 AM
After playing the first solo for about 6 months, I think i almost have it perfected.

It's amazing how easy something can look in tab form, yet playing it is another story. The amount of emotion involved in every little bend is amazing. Either you have to play it with your heart or not at all.

PinkFloyd
08-01-2005, 01:47 AM
Agreed.

GaggingOrder
08-01-2005, 01:49 AM
Why try to play each bend with heart? Gilmour sure as hell doesn't.

*Loses credentials with all Floyd fans*

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 01:54 AM
Why try to play each bend with heart? Gilmour sure as hell doesn't.

*Loses credentials with all Floyd fans*

You download the Floyd songs in the YSI thread?

GaggingOrder
08-01-2005, 01:58 AM
It took me like two hours, but I finally got In The Flesh....started.

So after all this time, I proudly own 18% of one song.

My computer sucks.

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 02:00 AM
It took me like two hours, but I finally got In The Flesh....started.

So after all this time, I proudly own 18% of one song.

My computer sucks.

whaaaaaaaaa

Are you on dial up?

GaggingOrder
08-01-2005, 02:06 AM
Yes. And MSN*, to boot.


*worst ISP ever.

markface
08-01-2005, 02:43 AM
Great timing to say that, cause I just got done ripping this:
hxxp://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31ZUWGRRUMMDC0T7UKKRIAMAXF
This is my second favorite version of it.

David Gilmour - Comfortably numb(Columbian Volcano Relief Concert 9.2.86)
hey thanks for the link, i just downloaded it

awesome, i was thinking "HOLY ****" when i was watching it

you know where i can download any other songs/videos?

Kingofdudes
08-01-2005, 02:48 AM
hey thanks for the link, i just downloaded it

awesome, i was thinking "HOLY ****" when i was watching it

you know where i can download any other songs/videos?
I dont know where you can download it, I bought this with a bunch of other bootlegs on ebay a while ago. I may post some more stuff tomorrow.(Like Gilmour's appearance on SNL)

markface
08-01-2005, 02:55 AM
alright, nice one

i've been learning the first solo to comfortably numb for a couple of days, it's orgasmic to play and to hear yourself playing it is out of this world

GaggingOrder
08-01-2005, 02:57 AM
Gag.

Purple, could you check to see if those links are bad? Because they're phayling on me right before the pop-up before the download comes up, and I'm not sure if it's by computer or Teh Linx.

i'll give you something to gag on No thanks.

markface
08-01-2005, 02:58 AM
i'll give you something to gag on

:)

Marzcho
08-01-2005, 06:50 AM
I just saw a video with Pink Floyd when they played live. I must say that there wasn't anything special about it. It felt just as the studio versions when they played, and everybody just stood there all stiff playing their parts. Although, I'm not talking down on the music. THEY OWN. I love Pink Floyd. But it seems like they were nothing special live.

WheepingGuitar39
08-01-2005, 08:51 AM
I just saw a video with Pink Floyd when they played live. I must say that there wasn't anything special about it. It felt just as the studio versions when they played, and everybody just stood there all stiff playing their parts. Although, I'm not talking down on the music. THEY OWN. I love Pink Floyd. But it seems like they were nothing special live.
You do realize Pink Floyd has been recognized as the BEST live show of all time?
I mean Pulse is out of this world
Delicate Sound of Thunder was very great musically

i've never really found a pink floyd live bootleg that sounds exactly like the studio version. Except for like Hey You off of Pulse
And that's the best part is that they stand their stiff playing their parts. Gilmour doesn't need to dance to impress you, his fingers do the dancing, he's a guitarist, not Robert Plant.

Marzcho
08-01-2005, 09:36 AM
You do realize Pink Floyd has been recognized as the BEST live show of all time?
I mean Pulse is out of this world
Delicate Sound of Thunder was very great musically

i've never really found a pink floyd live bootleg that sounds exactly like the studio version. Except for like Hey You off of Pulse
And that's the best part is that they stand their stiff playing their parts. Gilmour doesn't need to dance to impress you, his fingers do the dancing, he's a guitarist, not Robert Plant.

Well of course it's not exactly like the studio versions, but pretty much like.
And it's not just that. Well... I really can't explain. It just feels so emotionless to stand there and play almost exactly the same as you've recorded. I'm not saying that they are bad, but compared to for example Zeppelin, as you mentioned them, I think they're not so good live.

Lunch
08-01-2005, 09:42 AM
They are two different experiences. Pink Floyd's show, as you said, wasn't about moving around and all that, it eventually became about the light show and the effects they brought with them. Zeppelin, though they used a light show, never did it to the extent of Floyd and made up for it with moving and pouring energy into their shows.

Also, the music is just too different to compare. Zeppelin's music called for a rowdy live show with Plant's screaming and Bonham's pounding, etc. Floyd's music just didn't call for that, at all.

Marzcho
08-01-2005, 09:45 AM
They are two different experiences. Pink Floyd's show, as you said, wasn't about moving around and all that, it eventually became about the light show and the effects they brought with them. Zeppelin, though they used a light show, never did it to the extent of Floyd and made up for it with moving and pouring energy into their shows.

Also, the music is just too different to compare. Zeppelin's music called for a rowdy live show with Plant's screaming and Bonham's pounding, etc. Floyd's music just didn't call for that, at all.

True.

Grant
08-01-2005, 09:46 AM
As someone who saw Floyd in 1994, they were anything BUT stiff. They were mindblowing. My dad video taped the Pink Floyd concert he went to into 1973, it's incredible as well.

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 10:32 AM
As someone who saw Floyd in 1994, they were anything BUT stiff. They were mindblowing. My dad video taped the Pink Floyd concert he went to into 1973, it's incredible as well.

Do you know how incredibly lucky you are?

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 10:43 AM
hey thanks for the link, i just downloaded it

awesome, i was thinking "HOLY ****" when i was watching it

you know where i can download any other songs/videos?

holy shi

I honestly think that's better than Pulse

Kingofdudes
08-01-2005, 11:13 AM
hxxp://s63.yousendit.com/d.php?id=228IHUU3RDXCW1TKDAD1RO2QS4

Dream Theater's cover of Echoes part 1. dont say "ewwww dream theater" it is a damn good cover.

Purple Floyd
08-01-2005, 11:35 AM
Can't wait to hear this, I love DT.

thanks gilmour

Lunch
08-01-2005, 11:36 AM
Ewwww, Dream Theater.

Just kidding, I might have to check this out a bit later.

magicbus
08-01-2005, 11:37 AM
I used to have DT doing a cover of Comfortably Numb and Hey You on my other computer. It was pretty cool.

Marzcho
08-01-2005, 11:51 AM
After playing the first solo for about 6 months, I think i almost have it perfected.

It's amazing how easy something can look in tab form, yet playing it is another story. The amount of emotion involved in every little bend is amazing. Either you have to play it with your heart or not at all.
6 months.... wow...

Clown
08-01-2005, 07:54 PM
6 months.... wow...

Yeah, I learned it about 6 months ago, and am only finally starting to get the right amount of emotion into it. You wouldn't think it;s hard, but try to play it exactly how Gilmour does on The Wall, and you'll be in for a surprise.

Riva
08-01-2005, 08:03 PM
Actually, that is a fairly good cover that Dream Theater did.

Kingofdudes
08-01-2005, 09:58 PM
I dont have anything to do, so I think i may rip a bootleg or 2 off of my dvds for you guys.

PinkFloyd
08-01-2005, 10:55 PM
I think alot of people are overhyping and over analyzing how to put this and that emotion into the Comfortably Numb solos. I bet if I posted the bootleg version off The Wall tour of Gilmour playing it and claimed it as my own, people would say "you didn't catch the emotion that gilmour had!". That is in part because Gilmour is by far not the most technically proficient guitarist, and quite frankly hit alot of bum notes and out of key bends. Remember, when you are in a studio you have state of the art equipment and the best takes obviously end up on the record. Just play it like you mean it and thats the best you can do.

magicbus
08-01-2005, 11:08 PM
I dont have anything to do, so I think i may rip a bootleg or 2 off of my dvds for you guys.

Yea! Do it! :cool:

Kingofdudes
08-01-2005, 11:27 PM
Yea! Do it! :cool:
Actually it is gonna have to wait till a later day. I dont feel like waiting through ripping the DVD, editing, and resaving it.

Clown
08-01-2005, 11:28 PM
Yea! Do it! :cool:

Double doggy dare ya!

moaner
08-02-2005, 03:54 AM
I think alot of people are overhyping and over analyzing how to put this and that emotion into the Comfortably Numb solos. I bet if I posted the bootleg version off The Wall tour of Gilmour playing it and claimed it as my own, people would say "you didn't catch the emotion that gilmour had!". That is in part because Gilmour is by far not the most technically proficient guitarist, and quite frankly hit alot of bum notes and out of key bends. Remember, when you are in a studio you have state of the art equipment and the best takes obviously end up on the record. Just play it like you mean it and thats the best you can do.

nnng... One of the main reasons gilmour's pl,aying is so "emotional" is because of his complex phrasing, something he doesn't really think twice about but if you see it on paper you get an idea for. The exact timing isn't somehting most people spend all their time getting, so up to a point i guess they don't get the full feel for it.

Marzcho
08-02-2005, 12:44 PM
Yeah, I learned it about 6 months ago, and am only finally starting to get the right amount of emotion into it. You wouldn't think it;s hard, but try to play it exactly how Gilmour does on The Wall, and you'll be in for a surprise.
I don't like playing solos exactly the way they are recorded. It's not the same amount of feeling in it then... It's much funnier to play your own way.

Kingofdudes
08-02-2005, 12:57 PM
I don't like playing solos exactly the way they are recorded. It's not the same amount of feeling in it then... It's much funnier to play your own way.

Cause I always laugh when I play a solo my way..... :confused:

Marzcho
08-02-2005, 01:24 PM
Cause I always laugh when I play a solo my way..... :confused:
No. Because it's more fun to create something than to copy something.

Kingofdudes
08-02-2005, 01:24 PM
But you said funnier..... eh nevermind

Clown
08-02-2005, 01:35 PM
But with such famous and short solo's as the first Comfortably Numb, I think it's better to play it the way it's written.

On other solo's like Time, Echoes, Have A Cigar, and On The Turning Way, it makes more sense to improvise more of it, because they're less nostalgic.

Flaminghotchino
08-02-2005, 04:05 PM
I was improve a little bit on Time. Most people really dig it, but my old rhythem guitarist constantly whines about it. *sighs* he can't even begin to play that solo either.

I agree that in the first comfortably numb solo there isn't much need to improve. Like clown said, It's such a short, reconizable solo. Why change a good thing?

PinkFloyd
08-02-2005, 05:19 PM
nnng... something he doesn't really think twice about

That is a lie. Gilmour has gone record saying that he comes up with a bunch of licks and keeps the ones he likes, then pieces them together to create his solos. Dave also sings the guitar parts sometimes, then transfers the notes to his guitar, to avoid being "locked up" by any visual guitar style. Saying that he doesn't think twice about his phrasing is just wrong. Also I know he is very "emotional" but my main point was refuting the "I get the notes right, but the emotion is another thing". Chances are if complex phrasing = emotion like you said then people wouldn't be saying that because they are reading his notes off a **** tab.

Ill Mitch
08-02-2005, 06:00 PM
Anyone read the interview with Waters in the new issue of Rolling Stone? I found it quite interesting.

MBS
08-02-2005, 06:05 PM
I just listened to Echoes again. That is seriously perfection in a song.

WheepingGuitar39
08-02-2005, 06:05 PM
That is a lie. Gilmour has gone record saying that he comes up with a bunch of licks and keeps the ones he likes, then pieces them together to create his solos. Dave also sings the guitar parts sometimes, then transfers the notes to his guitar, to avoid being "locked up" by any visual guitar style. Saying that he doesn't think twice about his phrasing is just wrong. Also I know he is very "emotional" but my main point was refuting the "I get the notes right, but the emotion is another thing". Chances are if complex phrasing = emotion like you said then people wouldn't be saying that because they are reading his notes off a **** tab.

it's those freakin bends man
Gilmour is the BEND KING
emotion = bend
lolol

robo2448
08-02-2005, 06:06 PM
Anyone read the interview with Waters in the new issue of Rolling Stone? I found it quite interesting.

What did he say?

Riva
08-02-2005, 06:20 PM
Yeah, I'd be interested in what he had to say, also.

moaner
08-02-2005, 06:35 PM
riva, would you put pigs (3do) explanation on first post?

Riva
08-02-2005, 07:04 PM
Bugger, sorry I completely forgot. It's about two pages back, no?

All done.;)

zetabossio
08-02-2005, 07:14 PM
who recorded the piano in the final cut. does roger play the piano?

Riva
08-02-2005, 07:15 PM
who recorded the piano in the final cut. does roger play the piano?

I'm fairly certain it was Roger... let me check my CD.

EDIT: Michael Kamen is credited for playing it, but I'm sure ROger played a part in composing it.

robo2448
08-02-2005, 07:34 PM
I'm fairly certain it was Roger... let me check my CD.

EDIT: Michael Kamen is credited for playing it, but I'm sure ROger played a part in composing it.

Roger probably wrote the piano part, Kamen probably just played it.

pigonthewing82
08-02-2005, 08:38 PM
I don't like playing solos exactly the way they are recorded. It's not the same amount of feeling in it then... It's much funnier to play your own way.

Yeah I do that a lot too. In fact I only know a couple key licks from the second solo in Comfertably Numb and Money, the rest is all improv.

Riva
08-02-2005, 09:25 PM
A lot of people love covers which are tone and note perfect copies of the original. To me, if the artist doesn't add something special, it isn't worth recording.

That being said, the Scissor Sisters can go to hell.

Marzcho
08-02-2005, 09:26 PM
I was improve a little bit on Time. Most people really dig it, but my old rhythem guitarist constantly whines about it. *sighs* he can't even begin to play that solo either.

I agree that in the first comfortably numb solo there isn't much need to improve. Like clown said, It's such a short, reconizable solo. Why change a good thing?
Well. I think that whatever you decide to do will be good.

ATM
08-02-2005, 09:37 PM
So is a new Pink Floyd DVD coming out?

I heard something like that on the radio.

Scooch
08-02-2005, 09:42 PM
So is a new Pink Floyd DVD coming out?

I heard something like that on the radio.

They're probably talking about "Pulse", it's been out on VHS for a while.

Riva
08-02-2005, 09:44 PM
They're probably talking about "Pulse", it's been out on VHS for a while.

Yeah, we're waiting for it to be released on DVD, but Dave keeps delaying it for various reasons. :(

pigonthewing82
08-02-2005, 09:52 PM
So is a new Pink Floyd DVD coming out?

I heard something like that on the radio.

Well the DVD they were probally talking about was Pulse, but Pink Floyd's Live 8 preformance will be put on a complitation dvd (speacial features include on commercials cutting the solo in Comfertably Numb). I can't wait for that one.

Hells Bells
08-02-2005, 10:18 PM
The cover DT did of Hey You isn't bad at all either. I've heard other covers of that song, and it seemed as if those times the bands only goal was to reproduce it using their own style, and they turned out dry and bland. DT's still manages to hold on to some of the emotion the original had, compared to those other ones anyway. Still doesn't even come close to the original.

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0K9BDWITU93LY1EAU0DZHAC3PO

Unfortunately, it cuts off at the end.

DeusExMachina
08-02-2005, 10:22 PM
I haven't downloaded that, but did you get it off a p2p server, by any chance? If so, chances are, it isn't by DT. There was a supposed DT cover of Hey You and Comfortably Numb circulating on the interweb for awhile, but they turned out to just be live versions by Pink Floyd.

Kingofdudes
08-02-2005, 10:27 PM
That "hey you" is legit

WheepingGuitar39
08-03-2005, 09:50 AM
The cover DT did of Hey You isn't bad at all either. I've heard other covers of that song, and it seemed as if those times the bands only goal was to reproduce it using their own style, and they turned out dry and bland. DT's still manages to hold on to some of the emotion the original had, compared to those other ones anyway. Still doesn't even come close to the original.

http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0K9BDWITU93LY1EAU0DZHAC3PO

Unfortunately, it cuts off at the end.

I had the version that didn't cut off... but
:( it's goneeee
:chug:

DeusExMachina
08-03-2005, 11:33 AM
That "hey you" is legit
Legit as in by DT?

Clown
08-03-2005, 11:35 AM
Legit as in by DT?


It definitely sounds like DT, and it's also a very nice cover.

DeusExMachina
08-03-2005, 11:44 AM
Yeah, I just downloaded it, it does sound like them. I really don't like his vocals, but it was cool.

eat_a_peach
08-03-2005, 01:39 PM
anyone have a link or something where i can download a live version of Echoes

Ill Mitch
08-03-2005, 02:41 PM
What did he say?

Article (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7504168/pinkfloyd?pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3)

robo2448
08-03-2005, 03:28 PM
Article (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/7504168/pinkfloyd?pageid=rs.Artistcage&pageregion=triple3)

Thatnks. I'll take a look at it now.

Ihsahn
08-03-2005, 03:54 PM
EDIT: Nevermind :)

robo2448
08-03-2005, 06:52 PM
I'm really obsessed with Pigs right now. Ever since somebody uploaded those live performances of it, I've listened to it all the time. Both the live and studio versions. What an amazing song.

/bump

pigonthewing82
08-03-2005, 07:59 PM
I'm really obsessed with Pigs right now. Ever since somebody uploaded those live performances of it, I've listened to it all the time. Both the live and studio versions. What an amazing song.

/bump

Thanks ;)

Yeah I love that solo they put in it, in your live preformances of it do you have the one where sombody lights a fire cracker and Roger flips out.

Clown
08-03-2005, 08:08 PM
anyone have a link or something where i can download a live version of Echoes

I'll upload a bootleg of it from Prism.


hxxp://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3ETACKJOPI6YR1RXSQ1GA8FTTO

Hells Bells
08-03-2005, 09:01 PM
Just read the article. Well, there goes those rumors of a North American tour I heard about this weekend. I had no idea his band members treated him so poorly...

Ill Mitch
08-03-2005, 09:34 PM
I think it was mostly Gilmour.

DeusExMachina
08-03-2005, 09:34 PM
That was an interesting interview. From my understanding though, Roger Waters treated the rest of the band pretty poorly too. My understanding had always been he was more of the abusive one, not the abused one.

Out of curiousity, why does everyone post links with hxxp as opposed to http?

MBS
08-03-2005, 09:41 PM
Out of curiousity, why does everyone post links with hxxp as opposed to http?

Yeah, that's been on my mind, I think it's some sort of glitch. Are you using firefox?

Pink Floyd's on right now on VH1

Six Foot Revolver
08-03-2005, 09:43 PM
That was an interesting interview. From my understanding though, Roger Waters treated the rest of the band pretty poorly too. My understanding had always been he was more of the abusive one, not the abused one.

Out of curiousity, why does everyone post links with hxxp as opposed to http?
You Send It are tracing where all their links go and if they find one on a forum which is illegally sharing music then they block it. You put the hxxp so they can't trace and block your link :)

Kingofdudes
08-03-2005, 09:46 PM
I think mx has made YSI's black list. Some of the non hxxp links shutdown in seconds.

DeusExMachina
08-03-2005, 10:51 PM
Ahh. ****. I just uploaded something and posted an http link. Hopefully they won't track video game roms.

ATM
08-03-2005, 10:52 PM
I think mx has made YSI's black list. Some of the non hxxp links shutdown in seconds.

I post on another from that uses YSI, and they just post them normally with http.

Kingofdudes
08-03-2005, 10:53 PM
Ahh. ****. I just uploaded something and posted an http link. Hopefully they won't track video game roms.
Its blocked already :(

Dr. Jake Destructo
08-03-2005, 11:35 PM
I think YSI has started blocking every file posted on mx, because I doubt that sharing ROMs is illegal. :shrug:

Clown
08-04-2005, 12:25 AM
I just uploaded the Yngwie Album, and only 2 poeple were able to get it before it was blocked. Same goes with all the songs I post.

moaner
08-04-2005, 06:55 AM
I have zero sympatrhy with Roger for what happened. The others weren't jealous- they were annoyed at the simplistic direction Roger was leading them. And he really does sing out of tune quite a lot.

Six Foot Revolver
08-04-2005, 06:58 AM
Well if you post them with hxxp instead of http then YSI can't trace them so they won't get blocked :)

DeusExMachina
08-04-2005, 08:15 AM
I have zero sympatrhy with Roger for what happened. The others weren't jealous- they were annoyed at the simplistic direction Roger was leading them. And he really does sing out of tune quite a lot.
I agree. He can whine, but he really was being dictatorial with the band.

moaner
08-04-2005, 09:43 AM
Also, he's such a hypocrite.

he keeps going on about how much he loves the blues, but i don't hear an ounce of blues influence in any of his playing. Dave is an extremely bluesy player sometimes, but roger? no.

In live at pompeii, which one band member isn't having fun playing "seamus"?

Lunch
08-04-2005, 11:16 AM
I don't mind that. You can love something without being influenced by it.

MBS
08-04-2005, 12:35 PM
In live at pompeii, which one band member isn't having fun playing "seamus"?

Well Seamus was voted the worst Pink Floyd song ever....

Johnny Appleseed
08-04-2005, 12:40 PM
Any of the songs off of the Wish You Were here album are undoutably the greatest pink floyd songs known to man.
And YOU know it

MBS
08-04-2005, 12:44 PM
Any of the songs off of the Wish You Were here album are undoutably the greatest pink floyd songs known to man.
And YOU know it

I dunno, Time, Echoes, Money, Comfortably Numb, Pigs (3 Different Ones), and Dogs are all pretty good too, but Wish You Were Here is definetly an exceptional album.

Britton
08-04-2005, 01:05 PM
I dunno, Time, Echoes, Money, Comfortably Numb, Pigs (3 Different Ones), and Dogs are all pretty good too, but Wish You Were Here is definetly an exceptional album.


Yea I'm getting ready to record with my band (nothing like pink floyd)
but I love listening to that album and thinking how long they were in the
studio working on that album, I'm extremaly influenced by them I'm contantly
working through all their albums

thickasabrick
08-04-2005, 02:06 PM
Any of the songs off of the Wish You Were here album are undoutably the greatest pink floyd songs known to man.
And YOU know it

I think you are both right and wrong, but it's a trick question. The truth is that every album holds all of Pink Floyds best. I think PATGOD, Saucerful of Secrets, Meddle, DSOTM, and The Wall can all easily rival Wish You Were Here...but I couldn't choose a favourite. I really think Saucerful of Secrets is amazing.

Britton
08-04-2005, 02:49 PM
Syd was the Bomb!

robo2448
08-04-2005, 05:08 PM
I'd say all the songs on Wish You Were Here are very close to Floyd's best except Welcome to the Machine. I really love that song, but it isn't quite as good as the others. But a lot of songs can be considered Floyd's best. In fact, I think a few people in here even feel that Welcome to the Machine is their favorite Floyd song. WYWH is such an amazing album.

Edit- I forgot to mention that I just got The Wall (the movie). It's awesome. Pretty creepy.

Flaminghotchino
08-04-2005, 05:36 PM
Wish You Were Here was the first pink floyd album I heard, and definately the best as far as an entire album goes imo. However with a band like floyd it is really tough to say, they cover such a wide range of sounds, When I discovered Syd Barret it was like rediscovering the band.

Lets just say Pink Floyd is the one of the best bands ever, thats something we can all agree with.

robo2448
08-04-2005, 05:53 PM
Wish You Were Here was the first pink floyd album I heard, and definately the best as far as an entire album goes imo. However with a band like floyd it is really tough to say, they cover such a wide range of sounds, When I discovered Syd Barret it was like rediscovering the band.

Lets just say Pink Floyd is the one of the best bands ever, thats something we can all agree with.

123. The Wall is an awesome movie.

DeusExMachina
08-04-2005, 07:14 PM
The Wall is definitely a great movie. WYWH was my favorite album for awhile, but I think I'm going to take a step in the noobish direction and say that DSOTM might be my current favorite Pink Floyd album. I hadn't listened to it in awhile, and listening to it again was almost like listening to it for the first time. It's just brilliant.

Rothmans
08-04-2005, 07:26 PM
I hated DSOTM at the start for some reason then I gave it a few more spins and now I love it us and them is amazing.

Not a big fan of money for a PF song its repetitive.

robo2448
08-04-2005, 08:33 PM
WYWH has always been my favorite. Right now though, Animals may be catching up to it. When I first heard DSOTM, the only songs I immediately liked were Time and Us and Them. Then, I started liking it more, but there were still a few songs I didn't really like. I decided to buy WYWH, and once I heard that album, I got much more into DSOTM and all of Floyd.

DeusExMachina
08-04-2005, 09:03 PM
The Wall was the first Floyd album I ever heard, and it was my favorite up until I got WYWH. Then that became my favorite, then I started getting more into their earlier stuff and less into the Wall.

pigonthewing82
08-04-2005, 09:06 PM
I hated DSOTM at the start for some reason then I gave it a few more spins and now I love it us and them is amazing.

Not a big fan of money for a PF song its repetitive.

Yeah I don't like Money off the album, but I love it off of the DSOTM tour bootleg I have or a Delicate Sound of Thunder. There is a lot more jamming in the song in those recordings that make it seem less repetitive.

Flaminghotchino
08-04-2005, 09:08 PM
What are your personal top five Pink Floyd albums? My Current ones are..

1. Wish You Were Here
2. Darkside of the Moon
3. Animals
4. Piper at the Gates of Dawn
5. The Wall

robo2448
08-04-2005, 09:13 PM
1 Wish You Were Here
2 Pulse
3 Animals
4 DSOTM
5 The Wall

DeusExMachina
08-04-2005, 09:14 PM
I'm only counting studio albums, not live albums.

1) WYWH
2) DSOTM
3) Meddle
4) The Wall
5) The Division Bell

GaggingOrder
08-04-2005, 09:16 PM
I despise Dark Side, I'm trying to get into The Wall and some of these songs aren't bad.


NP - Empty Spaces

pigonthewing82
08-04-2005, 09:32 PM
Well I won't count my bootlegs so

1) Wish You Were Here
2) Animals
3) Dark Side of the Moon
4) A Saucerful of Secrets
5) Meddle

Clown
08-04-2005, 09:34 PM
1. The Wall
2. Meddle
3. WYWH
4. Animals
5. DSOTM

pigonthewing82
08-04-2005, 09:36 PM
I despise Dark Side, I'm trying to get into The Wall and some of these songs aren't bad.


NP - Empty Spaces

The Wall is great, but if you want to get into Pink Floyd for the Pink Floyd sound rather then the Roger Waters sound then Dark Side of the Moon is closer to that then the Wall. Though if you don't like Dark Side of the Moon, but want to get into Pink Floyds sound I would recommend Wish You Were Here.

zetabossio
08-04-2005, 10:00 PM
1)The DIvision Bell
2)AMLOR
3)The wall
4)The final cut
5)Atom heart mother

im the only who posted those ones

Flaminghotchino
08-04-2005, 10:45 PM
^ Rare Choices Indeed...

Dr. Jake Destructo
08-04-2005, 11:06 PM
1. Animals
2. WYWH
3. The Division Bell
4. DSM*
5. The Wall



*I've decided that DSM is a more appropriate acronym for Dark Side of the Moon, because DSotM looks rather ridiculous, but DSM gives the illusion of power and well, it looks much cooler.

Otherside
08-04-2005, 11:10 PM
1.Meddle
2.WYWH
3.Animals
4.The Wall
5.DSotM

I have yet to pick up PATGOD, so that's probably why it isn't up there.

WheepingGuitar39
08-04-2005, 11:20 PM
i love all their albums, but if i have to give it an order..

1) Animals
1) Momentary Lapse of Reason
1) Division Bell
1) The Wall
1) Wish You were Here
1) DSM :p dr.jake
1) Meddle

i love em all

Dr. Jake Destructo
08-04-2005, 11:21 PM
I looked at PATGOD today while I was at Best Buy, but I just couldn't bring my self to buy anything. I have clue why either. I mean, I've been working like crazy, and it's like I have a shortage of cash anyways.

Maybe I'm saving up for something and I don't even know it. :eek:

Lunch
08-04-2005, 11:22 PM
Wish You Were Here
Animals
PATGOD
The Wall
Obscured by Clouds

magicbus
08-04-2005, 11:36 PM
DSOTM
WYWH
Meddle
Ummagumma
The Wall

In that order too. I guess.

MBS
08-04-2005, 11:43 PM
Wish You Were Here
Dark Side of the Moon
Meddle
Animals
The Wall

Johnny Appleseed
08-05-2005, 01:08 AM
Was i right or not
It looks like the majority of these fans agree
Wish You Were Here is the best



goodbye
you few good people have been great
long live johnny appleseed
he will never be forgotten





























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pigonthewing82
08-05-2005, 01:13 AM
Yeah I mean there are songs from albums that I like better then the songs on Wish You Were Here, but overall I think that is there strongest album. I mean Shine On You Crazy Dimond (all parts) is somthing almost beyond music.

PinkFloyd
08-05-2005, 01:45 AM
1) The Wall
2) DSM ;)
3) Animals
4) Wish You Were Here
5) Final Cut
6) Meddle

ThePiperAtTheGates
08-05-2005, 02:09 AM
This is my "Greatest albulm list" some of it is opinion, some not.

1. Dark Side (no two ways about it, its the albulm that defines floyd)
2. Piper at the Gates (best psychedelic albulm made)
3. wish you were here (a touching albulm, shine on is a master piece)
4. Meddle (it has echoes, which is the one song that defines floyd)
5. The Wall (great album in general)
6. Animals (dogs and pigs three different ones are awesome songs)

Pretty sweet first post, huh?

moaner
08-05-2005, 09:54 AM
1. Dark side is a great album, however overplayed and overliked it is
2. WYWH
=. Meddle- Both albums with some really, really good stuff and some so so stuff
4. Obscured by clouds
5. Animals
6. Ummagumma (live half)

My favourite pink floyd "release" (if you will) is Live at pompeii, but that's not an album...

moaner
08-05-2005, 09:57 AM
Well Seamus was voted the worst Pink Floyd song ever....

by who?

I'd say its better than every song off the final cut and momentary lapse, and its not even that good a song.

What about "Bring the boys back home" or any of that filler on the wall?

The people that'd vote that as the worst pink floyd song ever should really listen to a bit more of their non mid-era stuff.

moaner
08-05-2005, 12:11 PM
I'm pretty sure that Seamus was called the worst Floyd song ever in a Q special edition last year, although I think it had "won" that title in some earlier poll as well. I really disagree personally...I'd say that it's quite a good song. Bring The Boys Back Home is part of one of the most perfect sequences in music ever (side 1 of disc 2 of The Wall, so it gets my approval) :cool: Besides, I think Roger called it the most important song on there before. I don't know what Floyd's worst song is, but I'd say something off A Momentary Lapse Of Reason too.

when i burned myself a copy of the wall, i left off bring the boys so i could fit it all on one disc.

/accidental burn of roger

GaggingOrder
08-05-2005, 12:19 PM
That's actually a good idea, but if I do like some more songs I would try to buy it for cheap off the internet instead of burning it so I can look at pretty pictures.

GaggingOrder
08-05-2005, 12:34 PM
YOu could skim the last five or so seconds off of each track, but I wouldn't bet on that working.

moaner
08-05-2005, 01:08 PM
:eek:


Blasphemy!

If I had to do that, I don't know what song I'd leave off...probably something off the second half of Disc 1, maybe Another Brick In The Wall (Part 3) or something like that. It would be really hard to leave anything off and make the album sound right though. :-/

no way! You can't leave off part 3...

I guess i could leave off the trial.











































Fooled you...

Kingofdudes
08-05-2005, 01:18 PM
by who?

I'd say its better than every song off the final cut and momentary lapse, and its not even that good a song.

What about "Bring the boys back home" or any of that filler on the wall?

The people that'd vote that as the worst pink floyd song ever should really listen to a bit more of their non mid-era stuff.
wtf, Sorrow is a great song. So much better than Seamus.

ThePiperAtTheGates
08-05-2005, 01:27 PM
Well Seamus was voted the worst Pink Floyd song ever....

I heard they did that song as a joke-to be funny. But no one thought it was funny.

DeusExMachina
08-05-2005, 03:38 PM
In 1989, some Pink Floyd fan magazine voted Seamus the worst Pink Floyd song. They also voted The Final Cut as the worst album, even though the editors of the magazine voted it the best album.