The Dark Side of the Forum (Pink Floyd)

[WheepingGuitar39]

You dumb ****ing hippie. "All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be," isn't about materialism, it is truth. You have to appreciate life for what it is...
who you talking to

[TheDMV]

Have a Cigar is a brilliant song. I find that Welcome to the Machine can get a bit, uhh.. monotonous and the synthesizers annoy the crap out of me.

But Wish You Were Here is perfection in a song.
Pink Floyd is pretty much perfection in a band

[MBS]

You dumb ****ing hippie. "All you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be," isn't about materialism, it is truth. You have to appreciate life for what it is...

What? Could you at least quote something?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

You dudes should do Have a Cigar for the cover comp. It would be great. So the line up so far would be

Aaron-guitar
Jason- vocals
??

[Killtacular]

I love Welcome to the Machine. More than Have a Cigar.

[robo2448]

I like Have A Cigar much better. I think Welcome to the Machine has great lyrics and vocals, but it doesn't have the incredible intro or guitar soloing that Have A Cigar does.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Welcome to the Machine drags on a little too long. Have a Cigar is just overall awesome. The intro is one of my favorite 'riffs.' The combination of Roger's bassline and Gilmour's guitar remind me oddly of Lousianna, as wierd as that may sound. When I'm listening to it, I picture swamps and alligators. :-/ Wierd, eh?

[MBS]

Welcome to the Machine drags on a little too long. Have a Cigar is just overall awesome. The intro is one of my favorite 'riffs.' The combination of Roger's bassline and Gilmour's guitar remind me oddly of Lousianna, as wierd as that may sound. When I'm listening to it, I picture swamps and alligators. :-/ Wierd, eh?

That's a bit strange, yes.

Then again, Wish You Were Here reminds me of Lords of Dogtown.

Probably because it was in that movie...

[robo2448]

Welcome to the Machine drags on a little too long. Have a Cigar is just overall awesome. The intro is one of my favorite 'riffs.' The combination of Roger's bassline and Gilmour's guitar remind me oddly of Lousianna, as wierd as that may sound. When I'm listening to it, I picture swamps and alligators. :-/ Wierd, eh?

Yes, a little wierd. But I agree with you about Have A Cigar. I love how the soloing fades out in the end.

[Walrus Gumboot]

Welcome to the Machine drags on a little too long. Have a Cigar is just overall awesome. The intro is one of my favorite 'riffs.' The combination of Roger's bassline and Gilmour's guitar remind me oddly of Lousianna, as wierd as that may sound. When I'm listening to it, I picture swamps and alligators. :-/ Wierd, eh?

Not too wierd

Hendrix's The Wind Cries Mary reminds me of the lavafields of Iceland, subtley covered in patches of yellow-green moss, rolling on beyond sight until they reach the pounding ice cold waves of the north atlantic

[TheDMV]

Welcome to the Machine drags on a little too long. Have a Cigar is just overall awesome. The intro is one of my favorite 'riffs.' The combination of Roger's bassline and Gilmour's guitar remind me oddly of Lousianna, as wierd as that may sound. When I'm listening to it, I picture swamps and alligators. :-/ Wierd, eh?

Not all too strange. The intro has a very vintage sound, and the bass is very rich. It's a deep overall tone; This could give the illusion of the song being of a roots or country, or even a jam band.

The intro has a 'grassroots' sound to it, though it doesn't sound like country; more like old rock and roll. It differs from PF's usual space rock sound, so I see where you're coming from.

[TheDMV]

Yes, a little wierd. But I agree with you about Have A Cigar. I love how the soloing fades out in the end.
I don't like how the solo fades out, I would rather just hear it fully. To me, it's an awesome solo. Sometimes I think that Pink Floyd is over-produced; There are too many effects and extra sounds on some songs.

[robo2448]

I don't like how the solo fades out, I would rather just hear it fully. To me, it's an awesome solo. Sometimes I think that Pink Floyd is over-produced; There are too many effects and extra sounds on some songs.

meh I think it's cool. It is a great solo though, but I find you have to kind of concentrate on it to really hear it. Otherwise the whooshing noise kind of overshadow it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

It is quite the awesome solo. It's a very different kind of solo for Gilmour. Again, it has that 'bayou' feel to it.

DMV- Avoid double posting, please. :)

[Pickaholic]

The way their music sounds is the way they wanted it to sound. Their producer only told them what he liked / didn't like.

[TheDMV]

It is quite the awesome solo. It's a very different kind of solo for Gilmour. Again, it has that 'bayou' feel to it.

DMV- Avoid double posting, please. :)

I only double post when there are two diffrent topics like that. It's not like I was spamming. I didn't wait for someone else to post but it's a rare occaison where I double post.


EDIT: THe main reason though is that I wanted to quote him, so I hit reply.

[magicbus]

The "Have a Cigar" solo is one of my favorite one's to play. I spent all day yesterday playing that one, the Comfortably Numb solo, the Hey You solo, etc. I was on a Floyd buzz.

Another interesting, but very cool, solo is the one from "Childhood's End". That's really simple, but it just stands out to me. Gilmour rules, basically.

[BlackHole]

hey hey, i'm still here, i still play bass, and i'm still interested in doing some floyd covers...

My recording equpiment isnt great (its, uh, the computer mic...) but i can see what i can do...

[guitarded_chuck]

Have A Cigar is a great song. I like Roger's bass on the song and the solo is fun too. It's one of my favorite Floyd songs to jam to on guitar. I think it would have been cooler if Waters of Gilmour sang the song on the album though.

By the way, who sang Have A Cigar live?

[Kingofdudes]

Have A Cigar is a great song. I like Roger's bass on the song and the solo is fun too. It's one of my favorite Floyd songs to jam to on guitar. I think it would have been cooler if Waters of Gilmour sang the song on the album though.

By the way, who sang Have A Cigar live?
Roger does, I have a bootleg :cool:

Anyone notice the close up of the factory on the cover of Animals during the Live 8 PF concert?

[Shazzam]

Have A Cigar reminds me of space travel...

Maybe it's the swirly phasers.

[TheDMV]

So that was the actual animals cover. That's cool; where is that?

[boobjet]

i didnt look through all 217 pages to see if this has been asked but, i was wondering if there was a site or some other form, with footage of them playing at live 8

[Pickaholic]

Yes.

http://isohunt.com/torrents.php?ihq=pink+floyd&ext=&op=and

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Anyone notice the close up of the factory on the cover of Animals during the Live 8 PF concert?

I recall seeing the flying pig. It's a shame they couldn't have a long set to play Dogs. I would have loved to hear Gilmour tear the hell out of all of those solos.

[MBS]

I recall seeing the flying pig. It's a shame they couldn't have a long set to play Dogs. I would have loved to hear Gilmour tear the hell out of all of those solos.

123, that would have been incredible to see.

I'm sure I've said it in this thread before but on the Gilmour live DVD you can very faintly hear someone say "Play something from Animals!"

Gilmour responds in the mic "No, we'll be here all night!" :lol:

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

:lol: What DVD is that from? Is it a Gilmour solo deal? I have Live in Pompeii. It's great to see PF in their prime.

[MBS]

:lol: What DVD is that from? Is it a Gilmour solo deal? I have Live in Pompeii. It's great to see PF in their prime.

It's a Gilmour solo dealie.

I'll ask him about it later.

[Shazzam]

Yeah, I just picked up that DVD and it's great. Gilmour is faboulus on the Comfortably Numb solos, along with just about everything else.

[magicbus]

So the Gilmour solo dvd is worth getting? Does he play electric stuff too, or just acoustic?

EDIT to Gilmour: Then I'm going out and buying it today :thumb:

[Kingofdudes]

He uses his electric for most of the solos, and for the slides on High hopes and SOYCD

[magicbus]

On the same subject, does anybody own any of Gilmour's solo albums, and how are they?

[Kingofdudes]

I have bits and pieces of them. About Face is a pop album basically, but it does have some good songs on it. The few songs from his first album I have heard I like.

[Alessandro]

So the Gilmour solo dvd is worth getting? Does he play electric stuff too, or just acoustic?

EDIT to Gilmour: Then I'm going out and buying it today :thumb:

Do it! It´s awesome, worth every single cent. :thumb:

[Scooch]

Anyone else hear about The Floyd rejecting 120 Million U.S. to do a tour? That's the most heartbreaking news I've heard in a long time.

[MBS]

Anyone else hear about The Floyd rejecting 120 Million U.S. to do a tour? That's the most heartbreaking news I've heard in a long time.

Well, there goes all chances of a reunion tour. :upset:

Oh well. At least we have the Live 8 performance.

[Alessandro]

Anyone else hear about The Floyd rejecting 120 Million U.S. to do a tour? That's the most heartbreaking news I've heard in a long time.

Yeah, actually they were offered 150 million to tour through the U.S but they rejected it... Also, with Live 8, the sales of Floyd´s albums have increased, but Gilmour said that he will donate the extra royalties he receives to charity.

[Dragon_Prince]

I've heard the selling of Pink Floyd stuff has increased with 1360% :| after live 8 a shame they won't tour :(

[Whale and Wasp]

I've heard the selling of Pink Floyd stuff has increased with 1360% :| after live 8 a shame they won't tour :(
123

it would be sweet if they toured for free or something though

[ledpoisoning27]

Yeah, actually they were offered 150 million to tour through the U.S but they rejected it... Also, with Live 8, the sales of Floyd´s albums have increased, but Gilmour said that he will donate the extra royalties he receives to charity.
...And Waters will keep all of his for himself, and still try and get more money.

[ridgebball07]

i havent looked through all the pages to see if something similar was asked but anyway: some kid just burned me a cd that had pink floyd-led zeppelin collaborations on them. One is Whole Lotta Love-On The Run, and was obviously mixed with a computer because they were both studio versions. The others were Wish You Were Here and Stairway to Heaven. The vocals on Stairway didn't really sound like zep, but I really doubt that it was a collaboration or even a cover. I created an account to ask you guys this, after reading the first 20-30 pages of this thread, you would prob know.

[MBS]

i havent looked through all the pages to see if something similar was asked but anyway: some kid just burned me a cd that had pink floyd-led zeppelin collaborations on them. One is Whole Lotta Love-On The Run, and was obviously mixed with a computer because they were both studio versions. The others were Wish You Were Here and Stairway to Heaven. The vocals on Stairway didn't really sound like zep, but I really doubt that it was a collaboration or even a cover. I created an account to ask you guys this, after reading the first 20-30 pages of this thread, you would prob know.

Ask us what? :confused:

[Kingofdudes]

...And Waters will keep all of his for himself, and still try and get more money.

Cause you obviously know that :rolleyes:

[Dragon_Prince]

Oh yeah almost forgot, I talked to some guy of my class the other day 'bout Pink Floyd, and my teached suddenly talked along, he likes that band too etc etc. Then his story came, he was in belgium, he was a student many many years ago and some englisch guys wanted to play soccer to him, well he did ... Pink Floyd was performing that night close to where my teacher was ... He didn't notice at the moment but he played socces versus Pink Floyd ... Strange .... :P

[DeusExMachina]

i havent looked through all the pages to see if something similar was asked but anyway: some kid just burned me a cd that had pink floyd-led zeppelin collaborations on them. One is Whole Lotta Love-On The Run, and was obviously mixed with a computer because they were both studio versions. The others were Wish You Were Here and Stairway to Heaven. The vocals on Stairway didn't really sound like zep, but I really doubt that it was a collaboration or even a cover. I created an account to ask you guys this, after reading the first 20-30 pages of this thread, you would prob know.
Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin have never collaborated. There's some weird files circulating on P2P servers that are labeled as Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, but it isn't true.

[WheepingGuitar39]

i guess you guys didnt see the post i made a while ago but anyway
ill clear some things up
Pink Floyd was offered 200 Million $ to tour the WORLD. They refused , and it is decieving but remember that David Gilmour said he would never do a tour without making a new album first. So maybe they'll make an album soon.

Also, the 1360% increase was at american HMV's. for only Echoes.
in total, out of all the bands that their sales were increased because of live 8, pink floyd has 5 albums. #1 : The Wall, 4000% increase, #2 : Wish you were Here, #3 Dark side of the moon #4 = Best of The Who, #5 = Animals, # 7 = Echoes.
I think that's about right, and in total, pink floyd had about a 10 000% increase in sales.

that's insane

[WheepingGuitar39]

also gilmour said he's donating all extra profit caused by Live 8 to charity, and urged others to do the same.

[Riva]

Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin have never collaborated. There's some weird files circulating on P2P servers that are labeled as Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, but it isn't true.

Yeah, I saw a Led Zeppelin cover of "Comfortably Numb". I called bullshit, and was right. :)

[TerryThorne]

does anyone know where I could find promo videos of early floyd?

[Triangle]

I've been listening to a sh!t load of Animals and DSOTM today :)

[MBS]

Also, the 1360% increase was at american HMV's. for only Echoes.
in total, out of all the bands that their sales were increased because of live 8, pink floyd has 5 albums. #1 : The Wall, 4000% increase, #2 : Wish you were Here, #3 Dark side of the moon #4 = Best of The Who, #5 = Animals, # 7 = Echoes.
I think that's about right, and in total, pink floyd had about a 10 000% increase in sales.

Over one benefit concert?

Wow, that truly is amazing. It's also amazing that Pink Floyd is being more recognized than just "some old rock band".

[WheepingGuitar39]

Over one benefit concert?

Wow, that truly is amazing. It's also amazing that Pink Floyd is being more recognized than just "some old rock band".
the thing that intrigues me is that, have pink floyd really hit it with the new generation? i mean ALOOOOOOT of poeple already own albums like The Wall Dark Side.. etc..
How can sales shoot up like that? And what's even weirder is in our age of downloading music off the internet sales still went rocket high
Unbelievable, Pink Floyd will never die.

[DeusExMachina]

10,000 percent. Wow. That's a large increase in sales.

[RNR]

They all went and bought Echos? Lame I say.

See previous rants about pink floyd greatest hits albums.

[WheepingGuitar39]

Echoes is good for people who dont know Floyd too much, but im still against it

but anyway
i made some calculations
and i dont know any exact numbers, but lets just say
that pink floyd sells on average 1000 albums a day in the world
and with a 10 000% increase (**** that's insane)...
that's 100 000 albums a day
now let's say on average a floyd album costs 30$, cause we all know record stores sell albums for ALOT. well atleast HMV does and they seem the most important retailer.
that's 30 000$ a day regularly. with a 10 000% increase, that's what..
3 000 000$ a day? woah..
and saying that the extra proft goes to charity means
2 970 000$ is going to charity, per day, unless the sales dropped dramatically.




wow..
these guys could be so filthy rich
they could certainly be many more times wealthier than the "richest band" in the world, The Rolling Stones.
I disrespect the stones. Now class in calling themselves the richest band, they make a freaking tour every **** year, and the tickets are VERY VERY VERY expensive. I dont see them with expensive laser shows or anything like that.
Apparently the best seating you can get for hte stones here in montreal will cost you 400$ from the ticket place.
1st row Pink Floyd Pulse in Montreal in 1994, was 40$...

Think about it..

[Shazzam]

I saw on Yahoo! News awhile ago an article about Gilmour donating his $30 Million house to charity. Of course he has numerous homes throughout England though.

That goes to show you how big of a heart he has.


And for the boost in album sales, maybe all those sad emo kids finally heard some music that they ACTUALLY liked (not pretended for the sake of being cool), and could still be cool listening to it. So they went out and bought PF's only Greatest Hits album to get a sample of some music where people actually play their instruments.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Aaron and Jason- You guys should get a start on Wish You Were Here.

Lunch- Do you have any recording capabilities?

[standard]

these guys could be so filthy rich...


And they are! But I've read an interview with Gilmour somewhere, and they asked about the money aspect of the business. He said he actually feels bad about all the money he's made, and one time he gave a house to a charity to sell.. A mutli-million dollar house.

I have such respect for him

[RNR]

When you have that much money already, it's a little greedy just to put it all away. Don't want to be like the rolling stones :)

[DeusExMachina]

WheepingGuitar39, that's really cool in theory, but the sad truth is that the record companies get the vast majority of that money.

Dr. Jake Destructo, what's this about recording?

[Lunch]

Aaron and Jason- You guys should get a start on Wish You Were Here.

Lunch- Do you have any recording capabilities?

Unfortunately, I do not. Unless you were talking to the other Lunch.

[guitarded_chuck]

WheepingGuitar39, that's really cool in theory, but the sad truth is that the record companies get the vast majority of that money.
Yea. And I think it was only Gilmour who said he was going to do this too?

This might of been mentioned I'm not sure, but Q/Mojo are putting out another special that includes Pink Floyd, called "Pink Floyd & The Story of Prog Rock." It's looks pretty interesting. The last special was a good read, and I plan to pick this one up too. Comes out on the 14th.
http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/news/?y=05&id=0707

[WheepingGuitar39]

Yes I know the record companies get the most of it, but hopefully enough will go to charity

I remember Gilmour saying how McCartney should donate more of his millions to charity, after Gilmour had just donated his house.
David Gilmour is a true hero.
Pink Floyd IS really rich, but imagine if they didnt give away any of their money to charity, or make concerts that cost 20 million, like Roger did 1990.

I dont understand... what pride can you have in calling yourself the "richest band". Really disrespect the Stones for that.

Pink Floyd truly are legends. Not only for their music but for the men they are.

[jgravance]

i really wish syd barrett hadnt gone insane. i really like early floyd.

[DeusExMachina]

Yes I know the record companies get the most of it, but hopefully enough will go to charity

I remember Gilmour saying how McCartney should donate more of his millions to charity, after Gilmour had just donated his house.
David Gilmour is a true hero.
Pink Floyd IS really rich, but imagine if they didnt give away any of their money to charity, or make concerts that cost 20 million, like Roger did 1990.

I dont understand... what pride can you have in calling yourself the "richest band". Really disrespect the Stones for that.

Pink Floyd truly are legends. Not only for their music but for the men they are.
Word. I agree completely.

So, I disappeared on about the 20th of June, but whatever happened to that official thread cover band contest? Did any threads make good covers? And if so, where can I get hold of them?

[magicbus]

Word. I agree completely.

So, I disappeared on about the 20th of June, but whatever happened to that official thread cover band contest? Did any threads make good covers? And if so, where can I get hold of them?

Nothing ever really happened. I'm a little disappointed because I really wanted to participate in a Floyd cover (which I'd still do just for the hell of it, if you guys are down).

Where were you Deus? Vacation?

[standard]

I would help with a cover... But I'm really, really, bad at guitar.

[BigTrav415]

I can actually play Brain Damage pretty well on guitar, but not any other Floyd songs (well, WYWH rythym)

[DeusExMachina]

Nothing ever really happened. I'm a little disappointed because I really wanted to participate in a Floyd cover (which I'd still do just for the hell of it, if you guys are down).

Where were you Deus? Vacation?
I'm definitely down with doing a cover with people.

I was in Iowa for debate camp, (I feel like such a nerd when I tell people that, but it was awesome) and then I went to visit some colleges.

[standard]

I was listeing to The Division Bell today, and came across these lyrics. Do you think they were meant for Water?

Did you know...it was all going to go so wrong for you
And did you see it was all going to be so right for me
Why did we tell you then
You were always the golden boy then
And that you'd never lose that light in your eyes

Hey you...did you realize what you'd become
And did you see that it wasn't only me you were running from

[MBS]

Echoes is bad because you need to listen to a Pink Floyd album all the way to get the "true" experience.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I was listeing to The Division Bell today, and came across these lyrics. Do you think they were meant for Water?
I really dislike the album but it could well be for Waters.

you need to listen to a Pink Floyd album all the way to get the "true" experience.
That is so friggin' true

[WheepingGuitar39]

Division Bell is an awesome album
And if you have noticed, Pink Floyd albums are mostly always about themselves.
Alot of the first albums were about drug experiences (Thanks to Syd)
Dark side of the Moon was dedicated to Syd's madness and what drives someone insane.
Wish you were here... Syd Barett written all over it
Animals is Waters perception of social classification, a bit "a la" Animal Farm
(this album is **** awesome)
The Wall, was the sorrow Waters felt after spitting at the montreal fan's face, and how he had completely disconnected from his audience, like if there was a "wall" in between them. therefore The Wall
The Final Cut was about Water's father and about the war
A Momentary Lapse of Reason was alot about the loss of Waters.
Division bell was the division between Waters and Gilmour
if you pay attention to lyrics in songs, and read alot of floyd interviews and stories, you can make SO many connections to their lyrics.


About Echoes..
When I was about 6, my dad had the Pulse album cause he was a huge floyd fan and had just went to the Pulse concert in MTL. And i loved the 3 last seconds of the album on Run Like Hell when there was a loud BOOM, because my dad had huge subs in his mustang. Anyway, then I was caught by the catchy Money bass line. For a while my two favorite songs were Money and Run like Hell. I unfortunatly went through a techno phase then to rap, and then finally back to rock when i found the Wall album. I listened to it on repeat all day, even while i slept it was playing my ears. At that time I wasn't really into Guitar Solos yet, so Comfortably Numb didnt have that much of an effect. I didn't really know what songs were what.
One day one of my friends lent me the Echoes album where I found the track Sorrow. This became my new favorite, and still is one of my favorite songs. One day i was in the car, and a radio station was playing Comfortably numb but we didnt have the volume high. We stopped at a red light near a gas station who had a radio i guess in their garage, blasting the comfortably numb solo. That's when I said, holy ****, what the HELL is that!!! That's awesome. There was like this power that i felt while hearing that. And I knew it was floyd because it sounded like what "dad" listened to. Anyway from that point on I was highly aware of awesome guitar solos and completely addicted to david gilmour's guitar solos. I next found out Pigs (3 different ones), High Hopes, and the rest. From that poitn on I decided to discover other songs on those albums which we all owned. I became a Pink Floyd addict. Now I have EVERYTHING, I have so many bootlegs because I just can't get enough.
I see EVERY Pink Floyd Tribute I can. I play guitar and I spend days trying to play like David. I know everything about Pink Floyd.
:thumb:
So Echoes helped me out a bit, but at the stage where I am, I look back and I dont really like that album, even though I find they made it flow together pretty nicely, it's just not the same effect as listening to Floyd's concept album, it was like if 1 album = 1 song.

yea i wrote alot, im sorry, i just felt like writing my feelings down. you dont have to read all that. :lol:

I was thinking of starting a Petition, to show Pink Floyd how many fans they really have, and maybe that might make them change their thoughts and make some albums/tours or what not.
Also, I heard that Roger Waters is making a brand new rock album in 2006, and David Gilmour is going on some kind of tour in 2006 and might make a solo album. Why not do this TOGETHER, release Roger's album under Pink Floyd with some of David's input, then make another album for alot of unproduced ideas that Pink Floyd has had in the past. That 1997 album that never happened? Where is it?
Pink Floyd still has what it takes, and definatly has a HUUUGE fan base, which dramatically grew in the past 2 weeks.

[Mr. Black]

I was thinking of starting a Petition, to show Pink Floyd how many fans they really have, and maybe that might make them change their thoughts and make some albums/tours or what not.


**** Good Idea I'd sure as hell sign it, ALso where the hell is the Zeppelin thread

[Six Foot Revolver]

I was thinking of starting a Petition, to show Pink Floyd how many fans they really have, and maybe that might make them change their thoughts and make some albums/tours or what not.
A good idea but I doubt it will work to be honest but you could try it anyway :thumb:

[MBS]

The Wall, was the sorrow Waters felt after spitting at the montreal fan's face, and how he had completely disconnected from his audience, like if there was a "wall" in between them. therefore The Wall


Sorry, but that's not it.

The Wall is about Roger, you got that right, but it's not about just the one spitting in the fan's face. Roger has had a pretty rough life, and every major trauma in his life has left a "brick" in an emotional wall. His father dying in the war, then having the King sign his death certificate with a rubber stamp, his mother being over protective, his wife being a tramp, etc etc. All those events led into bricks being built in this emotional wall, when, in it's completion, numbed the person of all feeling which eventually led to insanity.

The character "Pink" in the Wall is a representation of Syd Barret and Roger, for the character represents Syd's present condition (insanity) and Roger's past. He is "normal" for the first half of the wall, which leads to the wall being completed in the song "Goodbye Cruel World" in which Pink inserts the final brick himself. He then realizes that it was a mistake to build this wall, but he's too late to do anything about it because it's too high and he can't get over it. He holds himself on trial for the crimes he's commited, which leads to him tearing down the wall himself.

Which leads to one of the questions that I've always had on my mind...

Was there a hole in the wall?

Was there somewhere where a glimpse of human emotion could get through and help Pink overcome the wall?

/wall-in-a-nutshell

[WheepingGuitar39]

Actually you kinda resumed my thoughts, it's just that I didn't go into that much detail
But basically the spitting on the fan's face is what initiated Roger to sit down and reflect on what he did, his past, his childhood.
It's his thought of having a wall between him and his audience that he started thinking of "The Wall"
he said it himself in an interview
But yes it's for sure that Pink Floyd (Bob Geldof in the movie) is a reflection of Roger and Syd. Roger's part of the kid who's father dies, growing up without a father and the very tough schooling. Syd for the skitzophrenia, drugs and complete lost in space-ness.
And your right about the bricks in the wall. If you saw the movie, the bricks were made of material objects, you could see the front of a mercedes, BMW, a stereo and so on.

And to answer your quesiton I believe there are some holes in the wall where glimpse of light passes through.
I'm not sure about the human emotion helping out Pink. I think he was alone with his thoughts on this one.

Sorry about the misunderstanding, I know what The Wall is and the complete content and what everything means, I've watched the movie at least a hundred times and listened to the album in my sleep, it's all in there subcounsciencly, I just didnt feel like writing the whole definiton of The Wall. But what sparked The Wall was Roger spitting in the fan's face.
Everything you said still proves my point that The Wall is about themselves.

[WheepingGuitar39]

A good idea but I doubt it will work to be honest but you could try it anyway :thumb:
I doubt it would work anyway, Pink Floyd do what they want when they want. But since Pink Floyd do love their fans, and are considerate people. I would just want to show them a HUGE number of signatures, real people's names that would LOVE to see some new Floyd.
Just show them a reason more to come back, incase they are debating with each other right now :lol:

[DeusExMachina]

I was listeing to The Division Bell today, and came across these lyrics. Do you think they were meant for Water?
I actually thought it was about Waters as well when I first heard that album. Seems to me there's a lot of referencing to their career throughout the album, as if they knew it was the last one.

I for one love The Division Bell. I don't understand why so many people dislike it. Way better than The Final Cut, if you ask me.

Edit: About this whole "What is the Wall about?" thing. One thing that wasn't clarified (I don't think, at least) is that the Montreal spitting is not something Waters felt bad about. He just hated the fans, he viewed them as mindless sheep in the palm of his hand, so to speak. He couldn't stand doing another show with the fans acting they way they do, unless there was a Wall in between them and him.

Edit again: Gilmour on tour in 2006? Hot ****! Also, I know Waters is possibly working on a new rock album, but does anyone know anything about the opera he's writing?

[magicbus]

I heard on Late Night with Alice Cooper that Waters is working on a concept album about the French revolution, which could be pretty interesting.

[MBS]

Isn't Waters trying to bring "The Wall" to Broadway?

[robo2448]

Isn't Waters trying to bring "The Wall" to Broadway?

Yep. I'm not sure if it was his idea though. I hope Gilmour tours in 2006. I wish they'd tour together, but just Gilmour would still be amazing.

[Lunch]

I'd love the see The Wall on Broadway.

[robo2448]

It would be easy for me, I could see it as much as I want.

/lives right near NYC

[MBS]

I remember reading that he said he hated the movie because it was too dark and gloomy and stuff.

[WheepingGuitar39]

No no no, Roger Waters DEFINATLY felt bad about spitting in the fan's face, go watch the interviews. He said it himself.
He did not hate the fans, he says it was the fact that he just had so much pride and this overwhelming sense of power. Also the SUPER annoying fans in montreal (I'm a montrealer and I know alot of montrealers can be idiots). They weren't all annoying, maybe a couple out of the 110 000 there in attendance in the olympic stadium, floyd made the mistake of general admission. But some were screaming endlessly and at one point someone threw fireworks behind Roger. And someone even uploaded Pigs on the Wing Part 2 on this thread , where you hear the fireworks and Roger telling the disruptive fans to leave the stadium so that the other fans can enjoy the music. The other normal fans started cheering but the annoying fans just continued their crap until Roger just had enough and spat his frustration into this guy's face during Pigs (3 Diff. Ones). They had an intermission right after it and Roger felt like crap, David Gilmour was FURIOUS and didnt even come out to play the last song, whatever it was.
They stopped the Animals tour then and there.
You guys really need to see the interviews and read the stories and everything, really interesting stuff.
I also thought that Roger was a real ******* for spitting in the guy's face, but after knowing all the facts, i believe that moronic fan really deserved it.

[Kingofdudes]

And someone even uploaded Pigs on the Wing Part 2 on this thread
:cool:
David Gilmour was FURIOUS and didnt even come out to play the last song, whatever it was.

The last song was Us & them. I didnt notice that gilmour doesnt play it on the bootleg I got, but I do know there was a lot of booing during the song.

[standard]

Everyone says "Echoes" is a bad album, but I think it's nice to have in the car for those short trips. It's so hard to get into an album like The Wall, just to have to stop before it's over!

[Kingofdudes]

Everyone says "Echoes" is a bad album, but I think it's nice to have in the car for those short trips. It's so hard to get into an album like The Wall, just to have to stop before it's over!

You dont have to get into the wholealbum, just skip to the tracks you want to listen to :confused:

[temporary]

Isn't Waters trying to bring "The Wall" to Broadway?

Wow, that would be cool! Tommy was awesome on Broadway.

[Grant]

Roger Waters' opera, Ca Ira, was completed and submitted to Sony Music just a few months ago. It's due to be released on September the 27th.

Also, does anyone have a link to an interview concerning Pink Floyd's reaction to Live 8?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Everyone says "Echoes" is a bad album, but I think it's nice to have in the car for those short trips. It's so hard to get into an album like The Wall, just to have to stop before it's over!

First off, it's not an album, it's a compilation. (Besides the point, but I had to point it out) Second, I do realize that everyone says it's good to listen to Pink Floyd by the album, as individual songs sort of break the atmosphere or whatever, but Echoes is an awesome way for a new Pink Floyd listener to get into the band and figure out what era of Floyd they like the best. Even for me, somewhat of a PF veteran, I like to listen to it occaisionally, because I don't have all of their albums, but it's good to hear whats on them.

[WheepingGuitar39]

:cool:


The last song was Us & them. I didnt notice that gilmour doesnt play it on the bootleg I got, but I do know there was a lot of booing during the song.
Yea well i'd be pretty mad if Gilmour didnt come out for a song either :lol:
But I think I'd be more mad at the obnoxious fans.

[RNR]

The Wall on broadway? i'd go see that :)

[DeusExMachina]

No no no, Roger Waters DEFINATLY felt bad about spitting in the fan's face, go watch the interviews. He said it himself.
I stand corrected. Where are the interviews?

Roger Waters is indeed bringing The Wall to broadway, which I am very excited about. He's also adding a couple new tracks to it, and says it will be a good deal more lighthearted and enjoyable to the average fan than the movie was.

[brettberry]

who here likes what korn did with brick in the wall?

[WheepingGuitar39]

I stand corrected. Where are the interviews?

Roger Waters is indeed bringing The Wall to broadway, which I am very excited about. He's also adding a couple new tracks to it, and says it will be a good deal more lighthearted and enjoyable to the average fan than the movie was.
I saw them on Television... I can't remember if it's the VH1 "Syd Barret Story"
ill try to find out
oh and when Pink Floyd was inducted, they have a big The Wall poster I believe in the Rock hall of Fame
Roger Waters wrote something about Montreal's Olympic Stadium in 1977 leading to The Wall
something like that.

[WheepingGuitar39]

who here likes what korn did with brick in the wall?
I like it, it's pretty good.
They put all 3 parts together.


I believe my album sales theory was a bit off.
I read somewhere that Pink Floyd sells about 8000 copies of Dark Side of the Moon per week in the US alone (before Live 8).
Let's say 1000 Copies of DSOTM per day. In USA.
and 3000 albums alltogether per day, in USA.
Now.. in the world. Let's give them 10 countries where they accomplish the same. I think they would sell more in London, and are a HUGE hit in Canada.
Let's say they sell 50 000 albums a day worldwide. And we'll use the average 30$ per album again.
50 000 x 30 = 1 500 000. One Million Five Hundred Thousand dollars... per day.
ok I think im going to go run naked outside.. this is INSANE.

Ok so we said a 10 000% increase after live 8 right?
50 000 + 10 000% = 5 050 000 albums a day worldwide. This is really insane.
Now multiply by 30$...
151 500 000$ per day.
...
i dont know what to say.
am i doing something wrong?

[brettberry]

Yes you are

They do not make full profit off of their albums
Their recording company will always make MOST of the profit.
A good figure would be to use is that their record company makes $20 dollars off of every album. which means they would make $10.

[WheepingGuitar39]

Yea I know, but I meant Pink Floyd as in the money that is made in sales in total. including the record company
besides any profit Floyd makes is going to charity.
Record companies are stupid
I think pink floyd should make a new album and produce it themselves.

[DeusExMachina]

Well, I don't think they sell a total of 50k albums worldwide. And I definitely don't think 30 dollars per album is a fair price. I get most albums for about half of that. Plus, if someone buys the album used, then no money will go to Pink Floyd or the record company, because they already got the profit from that sale.

[moaner]

Roger Waters' opera, Ca Ira, was completed and submitted to Sony Music just a few months ago. It's due to be released on September the 27th.

I've heard some of it. it was... intresting. It wasn't fantastic, really.

[moaner]

pink floyd probably make about 10 pence each from each album sale. Nick and Rick probably make nothing from slaes of the wall, but in essence, they make barely anything from them.

Pink floyd UK sales were up 1000% after live 8.

And they're donating it all.

[brettberry]

Guys, I went shopping today at a preppy store called Kohls. You are not going to believe this but I went in there to get shoes and came out with a pink floyd shirt and an acdc shirt. Those were the only rock band shirts in the store. They were right next to golf shorts no joke. I could not believe it at all. And they were $42 a piece.

[magicbus]

I don't believe that. Kohls isn't preppy, and I don't think the shirts were 42 bucks each.

I'm also willing to bet that every kid in your school will have those same shirts.

[robo2448]

I don't believe that. Kohls isn't preppy, and I don't think the shirts were 42 bucks each.

I'm also willing to bet that every kid in your school will have those same shirts.

Kohls is just a place for cheap clothing, kind of the opposite of preppy. And everytime I go I see PF and AC/DC shirts and flip-flops for 10 bucks.

[brettberry]

I don't believe that. Kohls isn't preppy, and I don't think the shirts were 42 bucks each.

I'm also willing to bet that every kid in your school will have those same shirts.
Think about my location, things are different than where you are at. Kohls is a preppy store in my city(Madison) it is a very upscale town like Huntsvillle but cheaper. And I dont go to school I graduated 11 years ago.

[magicbus]

Think about my location, things are different than where you are at. Kohls is a preppy store in my city(Madison) it is a very upscale town like Huntsvillle but cheaper. And I dont go to school I graduated 11 years ago.

:lol: That's how it would be at my school at least.

[brettberry]

The cheapest pair of pants in kohls (Madison Location) is like $28. The Cheapest! Most expensive I have seen is like $69!

[Lunch]

The Kohls around here isn't expensive at all.

[brettberry]

You know, ever since this thread was started, I have became a really big PF fan and I hope to stay that way.

[Lunch]

You weren't around when this thread was started.

[brettberry]

actually i was as prvious sn i have been banned before. i was here in like 2002

[Lunch]

What was your previous name then?

[brettberry]

something like route66 but my 3 or 4 posts in this thread were really bad spam so they were deleted and i actually didnt get banned on that account i just forgot the password.

[temporary]

Guys, I went shopping today at a preppy store called Kohls. You are not going to believe this but I went in there to get shoes and came out with a pink floyd shirt and an acdc shirt. Those were the only rock band shirts in the store. They were right next to golf shorts no joke. I could not believe it at all. And they were $42 a piece.

Heh, same thing happened to a freind of mine, 'cept they didn't cost 42 a piece.

[Purple Floyd]

Guys, I went shopping today at a preppy store called Kohls. You are not going to believe this but I went in there to get shoes and came out with a pink floyd shirt and an acdc shirt. Those were the only rock band shirts in the store. They were right next to golf shorts no joke. I could not believe it at all. And they were $42 a piece.

That's the standard clothing store were everybody gets there clothes from. And it's also why you see people at school with DSOTM t-shirts, and you ask them what there favorite album is, and you just get a blank stare. I have a feeling that most of them think it's probably a new clothing company.

I did buy some DSOTM flip flops though for the hell of it, cuz they were only 3 bucks.

[DeusExMachina]

I've never heard of Kohls. What is it?

[brettberry]

I've never heard of Kohls. What is it?
Its a store like goody's and factory connection and whatnot but better.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

42 bucks for one shirt? I got my DSotM shirt for 14 or something at Sears. Not where I was expecting to find a Pink Floyd shirt. I also have an awesome WYWH shirt that Kingofdudes also has. He whored it, so some of you may have seen it.

[brettberry]

No lie dude, I am not exaggerating at all.

[Kingofdudes]

42 bucks for one shirt? I got my DSotM shirt for 14 or something at Sears. Not where I was expecting to find a Pink Floyd shirt. I also have an awesome WYWH shirt that Kingofdudes also has. He whored it, so some of you may have seen it.

I whore my gilmour shirt more :cool:

[WheepingGuitar39]

I have an Animals shirt
lol

Roger and David have been interviewed, you can read about it on www.brain-damage.co.uk

Roger seems like he would like to further work with Pink Floyd
and David seems that he is through with Pink Floyd. Which is seriously bad news because Pink Floyd could do it without Roger, but they certainly can't do it without David.
Hopefully Roger will be able to convince him
:upset:

[Riva]

I have an Animals shirt
lol

Roger and David have been interviewed, you can read about it on www.brain-damage.co.uk

Roger seems like he would like to further work with Pink Floyd
and David seems that he is through with Pink Floyd. Which is seriously bad news because Pink Floyd could do it without Roger, but they certainly can't do it without David.
Hopefully Roger will be able to convince him
:upset:

I'd say that Dave wants to leave things how they are, with everyone remaining friends. This is interesting though, since I would have thought Roger would have been reluctant, and Dave eager to continue PF.

[moaner]

I'd say that Dave wants to leave things how they are, with everyone remaining friends. This is interesting though, since I would have thought Roger would have been reluctant, and Dave eager to continue PF.

I wouldn't. Roger sort of "lost out" when he left, failing to gain the success he expected.

[DeusExMachina]

I whore my gilmour shirt more :cool:
Is that the tye dye one with a picture of Gilmour playing the guitar with that Pigs shirt? I have that one. I also have an awesome WYWH tye dye. I don't think it's the same one you have.

By the way, why'd you switch screen names?

[Reywas]

I just read this review(WYWH) on Amazon by a guy named Varg Vikernes.Wow this guy is pretty stupid.Why would he even bother to post a review if he dislikes it so much.


what kinda crap is this junk!?!?

they are no way in the vein of the forefathers radiohead or coldplay

plus they arent even heavy!!

for real metal ilsten to limp korn slipknot and atreyu

[Triangle]

plus they arent even heavy!!

for real metal ilsten to limp korn slipknot and atreyu
Oh dear... That's pathetic..

[moaner]

I just read this review(WYWH) on Amazon by a guy named Varg Vikernes.Wow this guy is pretty stupid.Why would he even bother to post a review if he dislikes it so much.


what kinda crap is this junk!?!?

they are no way in the vein of the forefathers radiohead or coldplay

plus they arent even heavy!!

for real metal ilsten to limp korn slipknot and atreyu

I don't get this whole "radiohead are prog" thing at all. to me they're just a boring band.

[Reywas]

Radiohead are one of the most amazing bands and I don't think they are prog.Just experimental.

[Marzcho]

Radiohead are one of the most amazing bands and I don't think they are prog.Just experimental.
Paranoid Android is really good.

[DeusExMachina]

I like Radiohead, but don't listen to them too often.

[ATM]

I could introduce you to some lesser known Radiohead, if you'd like?

[bebubly]

I like Radiohead, but don't listen to them too often.
same here, but i have started listening to them a bit more now. at the moment i can't download music and hae absolutely no money/income, so it would be cool if slug or someone could ysi some until i can afford to buy a couple of albums.

[Kingofdudes]

I just read this review(WYWH) on Amazon by a guy named Varg Vikernes.Wow this guy is pretty stupid.Why would he even bother to post a review if he dislikes it so much.


what kinda crap is this junk!?!?

they are no way in the vein of the forefathers radiohead or coldplay

plus they arent even heavy!!

for real metal ilsten to limp korn slipknot and atreyu
:lol: Someone pretending to be Varg :lol:

[ATM]

same here, but i have started listening to them a bit more now. at the moment i can't download music and hae absolutely no money/income, so it would be cool if slug or someone could ysi some until i can afford to buy a couple of albums.

Sure, I will do that later tonight. I'm going out to look for a job in a few minutes.

[bebubly]

thanks :)

good luck job hunting.

[ATM]

I'm going to try a bunch of CD stores.

And no problem, I love sharing the wealth :)

[rocker diva]

pink floyd owns! im hoping everyone saw the amazing live 8 performance! here is an article i came across n it mentions them as a highlight!

http://associatedcontent.com/content.cfm?content_type=article&content_type_id=5366

[Killtacular]

what kinda crap is this junk!?!?
they are no way in the vein of the forefathers radiohead or coldplay
plus they arent even heavy!!
for real metal ilsten to limp korn slipknot and atreyu

Aaaaaaaahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaahahaaaaa aaaaa...

/turns blue and passes out from laughing

["5150"]

I don't get this whole "radiohead are prog" thing at all. to me they're just a boring band.

I completely agree there. Radiohead are way overated.

[Scooch]

Is that the tye dye one with a picture of Gilmour playing the guitar with that Pigs shirt? I have that one. I also have an awesome WYWH tye dye. I don't think it's the same one you have.

I believe the Gilmour shirt is that black one that he's always wearing. Anyone else notice that he just wears plain black t-shirts, I bet you he's got a closet full of plain black shirts.

[magicbus]

I actually saw a pretty cool DSOTM tye-dye shirt today, it was like blue and light blue with the prism in the middle. But I was running on limited cash.

[Lunch]

I believe the Gilmour shirt is that black one that he's always wearing. Anyone else notice that he just wears plain black t-shirts, I bet you he's got a closet full of plain black shirts.

Maybe he just wore the same one everyday?

[Walrus Gumboot]

I completely agree there. Radiohead are way overated.

I usually refrain from using the term "overrated", but I did here one Radiohead album that made me feel very upset. Like my dog died or something. Go figure

[Mr. Black]

Is that the tye dye one with a picture of Gilmour playing the guitar with that Pigs shirt? I have that one. I also have an awesome WYWH tye dye. I don't think it's the same one you have.

By the way, why'd you switch screen names?


By the way, How'd you switch screen names

[Kingofdudes]

By the way, why'd you switch screen names?

Name change thread in the site forum

[Six Foot Revolver]

The Gnome is hilarious

[DeusExMachina]

That entire album is pretty weird, but I love it.

[Six Foot Revolver]

That entire album is pretty weird, but I love it.
Yeah but The Gnome and Bike are by far the weirdiest

[DeusExMachina]

True. Bike was the first thing that came to mind when I thought of that album.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I think it is pretty safe to say that they may have been the tiniest bit high while writing that song

[DeusExMachina]

Heh. Syd Barrett was out of his mind on acid when writing that.

[MBS]

I just got Meddle yesterday......

it's :cool:.

[DeusExMachina]

I love Meddle. I really like A Pillow of Winds and Fearless (and, of course, Echoes.)

[Lunch]

You didn't own Meddle before that?

[Schyma]

That entire album is pretty weird, but I love it.
I'd go as far as to say it's the greatest Rock album ever recorded. (needless to say Pink Floyd's best) I just love the imagery and ryming in his lyrics I mean it's just perfect for Psychedelic music. Ever time I go shrooming I have to play "The Gnome" with it's simple acoustic guitar and playful lyrics it's just perfect for walking to a shroom feild. The songwritting on this album is quite revolutionary aswell. This album is as perfect as a Rock album has gotton. Words really can't describe how I feel about this album.

[DeusExMachina]

Wow. High praise coming from Schyma. I agree it's a great album, but I wouldn't say it's Pink Floyd's best, let alone the best rock album ever. But, it's fun to listen to.

[robo2448]

Wow. High praise coming from Schyma. I agree it's a great album, but I wouldn't say it's Pink Floyd's best, let alone the best rock album ever. But, it's fun to listen to.

It's good and very entertaining, but doesn't compare to say, WYWH or others. It's really fun to listen to though.

[Schyma]

Wow. High praise coming from Schyma. I agree it's a great album, but I wouldn't say it's Pink Floyd's best, let alone the best rock album ever. But, it's fun to listen to.
Few people can comprehend the full genius of Syd Barrett. :p

[Schyma]

I really enjoy the Roger Waters side of the Floyd but the Syd Barrett side of the Floyd does sooooo much more for me.

[SrV_FeN63'StRaT]

I have a 4ft by 2ft Wish You Were Here poster. :D

[MalcolmYoungRock]

You didn't own Meddle before that?

I had it when my friend gave me the entire Floyd discography, but in my Floyd n00bish-ness I deleted it.

[Riva]

What happened to Mister Blue Sky, Aaron?

[MBS]

I was logged in on MYR because my firefox glitched and had to switch to a different account. I had to relog in.

[Riva]

I thought you got a merge, though?

Also, did you get my rep message, c/o Bartender?

[MBS]

I thought you got a merge, though?

Also, did you get my rep message, c/o Bartender?

Nah, I just got the joindate and postcount added to this account, it was already made so I thought "why not?"

[MalcolmYoungRock]

Also, did you get my rep message, c/o Bartender?

On this account I have 0 rep, and on the other account the only rep message I have is "Welcome to the rep thread" from Strummy.

[Riva]

Oh bugger. Bad luck, then.

[moaner]

I had it when my friend gave me the entire Floyd discography, but in my Floyd n00bish-ness I deleted it.

I have a full studio discography on this PC.

MEddle is a fantastic album.

[Thor]

^^^
I still haven't heard Meddle. What are some of the best songs on it?

[moaner]

Few people can comprehend the full genius of Syd Barrett. :p

"It's sad that these people think he's such a wonderful subject, that he's a living legend when, in fact, there is this poor sad man who can't deal with life or himself. He's got uncontrollable things in him that he can't deal with and people think it's a marvellous, wonderful, romantic thing. It's just a sad, sad thing, a very nice and talented person who's just disintegrated."

David Gilmour

[moaner]

^^^
I still haven't heard Meddle. What are some of the best songs on it?

One of these days, fealress, and echoes.

[magicbus]

^^^
I still haven't heard Meddle. What are some of the best songs on it?

All of them :p

I really like Echoes though. It's 20+ minutes long, and takes up an entire side on the album. I'm actually learning to play it now, I only know bits and pieces. Meddle is one of my favorite Floyd albums, it rules.

[moaner]

All of them :p

I really like Echoes though. It's 20+ minutes long, and takes up an entire side on the album. I'm actually learning to play it now, I only know bits and pieces. Meddle is one of my favorite Floyd albums, it rules.

I nailed the whole thing essentially. But i couldn't record it.

occasionally i play it all the way through. I will tonight, for fun.

[Otherside]

I really like Fearless, it just has an effect on me that I can't describe. But you have to respect Echoes for just being amazing in general.

[magicbus]

I nailed the whole thing essentially. But i couldn't record it.

occasionally i play it all the way through. I will tonight, for fun.

I know the beginning, and up to the solo, but I always play the Pompeii version's solo when I get to that point. I'm gonna learn the studio solo, and then a few parts at the end that I'm missing.

[moaner]

I know the beginning, and up to the solo, but I always play the Pompeii version's solo when I get to that point. I'm gonna learn the studio solo, and then a few parts at the end that I'm missing.

the pompeii bit with the slide?

I have to mould the 2 together to make it half playable (example- dave recorded one solo on a 24 fret gutiar, i don't have one, neither does he in pompeii) (another example- there are 5 guitars layered in one part) but I can certaintly do it.

[Illmatic]

How do you Floyd fans feel about Saucerful of Secrets and Obscured By Clouds? They're relatively unknown albums but I seem to be enjoying them.

[Otherside]

I don't have ObC, but SoS was hit and miss. I really liked a few tracks, but others just grated on my nerves too much.

Kind of off-topic, but what do you think of Immortal Technique Ill? My friend brought a cd over with him today and it's pretty good stuff.

[moaner]

How do you Floyd fans feel about Saucerful of Secrets and Obscured By Clouds? They're relatively unknown albums but I seem to be enjoying them.

I like them both. they're a bit patchy in places, but i enjoy them.

[magicbus]

the pompeii bit with the slide?

I have to mould the 2 together to make it half playable (example- dave recorded one solo on a 24 fret gutiar, i don't have one, neither does he in pompeii) (another example- there are 5 guitars layered in one part) but I can certaintly do it.

No the Pompeii solo where it zooms in on Dave's guitar, the solo right before the funky part. I'm bad at slide parts :upset:


Ray: I love OBC. The songs on there are all very good, and a lot of the solos rule. I think it's sometimes underestimated because not many people know about it.

And Saucerful of Secrets is great too. It resembles earlier, PATGOD type stuff, so it's somewhere else to turn to if you want Floyd like that (I enjoy both Syd and Dave era Floyd, but Dave more.) The other thing I really like about Saucerful is how Rick Wright plays a larger role. He wrote, and sings on, a lot of the songs, and he deserves to have a larger part in the music. He is a very talented musician.

[Schyma]

"It's sad that these people think he's such a wonderful subject, that he's a living legend when, in fact, there is this poor sad man who can't deal with life or himself. He's got uncontrollable things in him that he can't deal with and people think it's a marvellous, wonderful, romantic thing. It's just a sad, sad thing, a very nice and talented person who's just disintegrated."

David Gilmour
It's very sad story that I am not ignorant to. I'm talking about the music not how he went insane. I don't think it's genius that he got drugged every day and eventully went insane because of it. I dig the music not the legend.

[temporary]

MEddle is a fantastic album.

That's quite true! Echoes and One of these Days are both amazing, particularly Echoes (definitly one of the greatest rock songs of all time.) Am I the only one who thinks San Tropez is way underrated? Wright's jazz solo is awesome.

[Alessandro]

Can anyone upload some stuff from The Piper at The Gates of Dawn? I don´t know much about this album, so I´d like to have a listen on a few songs. Thanks in advance :cool:

[moaner]

That's quite true! Echoes and One of these Days are both amazing, particularly Echoes (definitly one of the greatest rock songs of all time.) Am I the only one who thinks San Tropez is way underrated? Wright's jazz solo is awesome.

I love that, its great.

[DeusExMachina]

Man, how can you people learn all of Echoes? That song is soooo friggin big, i wouldn't have the patience to learn it. I barely have the patience to learn something like, say, Time or Money.

[Illmatic]

Yeah, I think Echoes is a little too ambitious.

[WheepingGuitar39]

I believe the Gilmour shirt is that black one that he's always wearing. Anyone else notice that he just wears plain black t-shirts, I bet you he's got a closet full of plain black shirts.
yea i noticed that too
but only when he's playing with Pink Floyd
plain black t shirt with blue jeans
lol..
When I saw him at live 8, i instantly said, he's wearing the same thing as on the Pulse video

[Jude]

How do you Floyd fans feel about Saucerful of Secrets and Obscured By Clouds? They're relatively unknown albums but I seem to be enjoying them.

I haven't heard most of OBC (though I love the title track and Childhood's End is my second favorite Floyd song after Echoes) but SOS is pretty cool. The title track is a bit iffy, but Let There Be More Light and especially Set The Controls are winners for sure.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Echoes is my favorite song high. However, normally my favorite Floyd song is probably Time.

[moaner]

I haven't heard most of OBC (though I love the title track and Childhood's End is my second favorite Floyd song after Echoes) but SOS is pretty cool. The title track is a bit iffy, but Let There Be More Light and especially Set The Controls are winners for sure.

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On the alb um i like it, and live it just blows me away.

[moaner]

Yeah, I think Echoes is a little too ambitious.

you clearly have nowhere enar enough time on your hands.

[Riva]

Obscured By Clouds is fantastic! I wish I had the CDs, so listening to them would be easier. They got their wear when I drove my mum's car for a few weeks, which has a tape player. :p I think I'll play one now, actually.

*Puts More into stereo*

[DeusExMachina]

you clearly have nowhere enar enough time on your hands.
I generally learn shorter stuff. I just finished learning Time and The Wind Cries Mary, and right now I'm exorcising my desire to play fast stuff by learning Liberty, by Steve Vai. Someday, I'll learn Echoes. When I get a guitar with enough frets.

[Riva]

I generally learn shorter stuff. I just finished learning Time and The Wind Cries Mary, and right now I'm exorcising my desire to play fast stuff by learning Liberty, by Steve Vai. Someday, I'll learn Echoes. When I get a guitar with enough frets.

Heretic! No one must deny the power of Echoes!

(I haven't attempted to learn it either). :)

[ATM]

I attempted SOYCD. That's fun to play.

[Thor]

Man, The Wall has me hooked yet again. I just can't get over how awesome that album is.

[Broken Arrow]

Man, The Wall has me hooked yet again. I just can't get over how awesome that album is.
Personally I think it is one of their worse, but thats just me.

[Otherside]

I really like the idea of the album, althought it isn't my favorite Floyd cd.

[Alessandro]

Man, The Wall has me hooked yet again. I just can't get over how awesome that album is.

In The Flesh?, Comfortably Numb and Goodbye Bluesky are my favorites on this one.

[guitarhero 24]

I know after he left pink floyd, Waters had a few solo albums. Does anyone know if they were any good?

[Riva]

I know after he left pink floyd, Waters had a few solo albums. Does anyone know if they were any good?

I'm quite fond of Amused To Death, actually.

[moaner]

Personally I think it is one of their worse, but thats just me.
yeah, i agree. its quite an average album.

I attempted SOYCD. That's fun to play.

Again, I can play part onne the way he does live (missing out the 3rd solo).

i should learn that 3rd solo sometime.

[WheepingGuitar39]

What the hel
there's only 270 signatures on this thing
http://www.petitiononline.com/PFCB/petition.html
PINK FLOYD COME BACK

try to put this everywhere you can
let's show how many fans they have

[Walrus Gumboot]

I know after he left pink floyd, Waters had a few solo albums. Does anyone know if they were any good?


I think Radio KAOS is really good, but I haven't heard it sisnce I was 10 or so

[Thor]

Personally I think it is one of their worse, but thats just me.
Can you explain to me why? I think it is probably the best rock album ever made at the moment.

[moaner]

What the hel
there's only 270 signatures on this thing
http://www.petitiononline.com/PFCB/petition.html
PINK FLOYD COME BACK

try to put this everywhere you can
let's show how many fans they have

what a load of rubbish.

IF they want to reform, they know very well they could sell out any venue they wanted to.

Dave's already madse it quite clear he doesn't want to do an album or a tour, so what's the problem? 1000 signatures on the internet won't make a difference.

Can you explain to me why? I think it is probably the best rock album ever made at the moment.
It's horribly repetitive. it feels like 1/3 of the album is based around the same riff.

[Rounder]

Can you explain to me why? I think it is probably the best rock album ever made at the moment.

The wall was ok, and of course Comfy Numb is on there, but come on, its not one of the best floyd albums, much less a best rock album ever. Most floyd records are better than the wall. Animals, Wish you were here, are better imo.
hell Echoes is better.

[DeusExMachina]

I attempted SOYCD. That's fun to play.
Yeah, I tried to learn it, but got bored and gave up at about the 5 minute mark. I should try it again.

I don't know why everyone is bashing the Wall so much. I love it. Is it overrated, and not the best? Sure. But it's still a good album, says I.

[WheepingGuitar39]

what a load of rubbish.

IF they want to reform, they know very well they could sell out any venue they wanted to.

Dave's already madse it quite clear he doesn't want to do an album or a tour, so what's the problem? 1000 signatures on the internet won't make a difference.


what if they had a couple of million signatures. dave also kept denying a reunion with roger was practicly impossible, and it happened
and it's just to get your name on that petition, any true floyd fan would do it.
Floyd obviously knows they can sell out anything. but I get the feelign Dave doesnt really know how popular he is. If a huge petition is signed, it might refresh his ideas just a bit.

[WheepingGuitar39]

The Wall is an amazing album. It's out of this world.

[guitarhero 24]

If anyone could send me some of Waters's solo works, it would be greatly appreciated. Or maybe someone could compress all his albums into a folder and put it on YouSendIt.com and put a link up for all of us to download.

[Kingofdudes]

If anyone could send me some of Waters's solo works, it would be greatly appreciated. Or maybe someone could compress all his albums into a folder and put it on YouSendIt.com and put a link up for all of us to download.

All of his albums? Good luck with that one.

[magicbus]

I can play the entire SOYCD 1-5 all the way through, but I can't do 6-9, cause that slide solo is killer.

[Giaeo]

What the hel
there's only 270 signatures on this thing
http://www.petitiononline.com/PFCB/petition.html
PINK FLOYD COME BACK

try to put this everywhere you can
let's show how many fans they have


Who gives a ****? Petitions are weak. They never solve anything.

[RNR]

Well maybe if more people knew about it, they would sign it. That's kind of how crap like that works.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I think they know they have fans. At least 35 million of them, if you consider how many copies of DSOTM were sold. I doubt a petition would solve anything, but i guess it's a nice gesture.

/signs

[Lunch]

I can play the entire SOYCD 1-5 all the way through, but I can't do 6-9, cause that slide solo is killer.

That solo is also amazing.

[WheepingGuitar39]

Who said it was to SOLVE anything
There arent any problems right now, I dont need to see why anything should be solved.
Just a huge number of signatures under a message like "We love you Pink Floyd, please come back!" might just influence their decisions a little bit.
Most of the signatures are young people like I who have never had the chance to see Pink Floyd live.

Petitions CAN solve something if everyone sticks by it and signs it. But mostly everyone is either too stupid or lazy.

Giaeo you comments are very stupid, I've seen very good Petitions for extremely deserving causes, and they do make a difference.
Petitions are there to show that poeple CARE. It seems that alot of people these days have forgotten what Caring means.

What about a petition to install a speed bump at the end of your street because cars go fast and many children are playing there? Noooo of course not, "Who gives a ****? Petitions are weak. They never solve anything.".

I posted it for the people who care and thought it would be interesting. Those of you who dont care, shut up and ignore it.

[WheepingGuitar39]

What do you guys think of the song Yet Another Movie? from A Momentary Lapse of Reason.
I really like the solo at 3:50

[Kingofdudes]

What about a petition to install a speed bump at the end of your street because cars go fast and many children are playing there? Noooo of course not, "Who gives a ****? Petitions are weak. They never solve anything.".

1. **** speed bumps, I speed over them anyway.
2. There is a difference between that kind of petition, and one bitching at PF to tour.

Besides im pretty sure the band knows people want them to tour, seeing all the money that was offered to them to tour the US. Most of the band members are busy with their owns lives and projects, and they dont want to risk antagonizing each other all over again thanks to a long tour.


Some petitions work(like the california recall), but the PF one is a waste of time.

[clown_phobia]

I signed the petition... I'd love it if they toured, but I do understand they have no reason to. The only reason they'd tour is for money,a nd they're loaded with that anyway...

They dislike each other anyway...

[WheepingGuitar39]

1. **** speed bumps, I speed over them anyway.
2. There is a difference between that kind of petition, and one bitching at PF to tour.

Besides im pretty sure the band knows people want them to tour, seeing all the money that was offered to them to tour the US. Most of the band members are busy with their owns lives and projects, and they dont want to risk antagonizing each other all over again thanks to a long tour.


Some petitions work(like the california recall), but the PF one is a waste of time.
Hey man, it's for fun, and not b*tching at PF, just showing them a list
Are you Pink Floyd? No, so don't speak for them and Shut the F* up
If your not happy with the Petition, go cry somewhere else.
I'm fully aware that the petition will 99.5% have no effect on Pink Floyd, but it's just a petition, quit whining like a little baby.
You are clearly an idiot with only stupid comments like speeding over a speed bump, you must have a sh*t box car, no one with a nice car would speed over one.
I just posted that because last time a couple of people showed some interest in a petition, after all it involves pink floyd and most of us would like to see them back, for some of us it's just high hopes, for us true floyd fans.

So for those of you who have nothing good to say, just shut up and dont post blablabla this blablabla that that's stupid this is stupid i dont like this i dont like that. Quit being so freakin negative all the time
Someone who listens to Pink Floyd regularly would never be a negative person.

[Lunch]

You should calm down a little bit and don't take people saying something "negative" about your petition as an attack on your life.

[WheepingGuitar39]

I signed the petition... I'd love it if they toured, but I do understand they have no reason to. The only reason they'd tour is for money,a nd they're loaded with that anyway...

They dislike each other anyway...
yea.. i know :(
They have no reason what so ever to tour except for their fans.
They are very rich men who like to give alot to charity. It could be possible they did a short tour for charity but, i dont know.

I kind of felt a cold between them at Live 8, i mean the hug and all was nice but.. I'm sure they are nowhere near their friendship during the Meddle, Dark Side and Wish You Were Here years.
Very sad to see the best group of all time like this
But I just sit here and enjoy all their past work. Hoping one day for future material but hey
How many of us actually thought , 1 year ago, Pink Floyd would be playing WITH Roger Waters on a new Live Aid (Live 8).
Anything is possible

[Riva]

Hey man, it's for fun, and not b*tching at PF, just showing them a list
Are you Pink Floyd? No, so don't speak for them and Shut the F* up
If your not happy with the Petition, go cry somewhere else.
I'm fully aware that the petition will 99.5% have no effect on Pink Floyd, but it's just a petition, quit whining like a little baby.
You are clearly an idiot with only stupid comments like speeding over a speed bump, you must have a sh*t box car, no one with a nice car would speed over one.
I just posted that because last time a couple of people showed some interest in a petition, after all it involves pink floyd and most of us would like to see them back, for some of us it's just high hopes, for us true floyd fans.

So for those of you who have nothing good to say, just shut up and dont post blablabla this blablabla that that's stupid this is stupid i dont like this i dont like that. Quit being so freakin negative all the time
Someone who listens to Pink Floyd regularly would never be a negative person.


Get out of my thread, until you learn to differentiate personal attacks from differences of opinion.

[Kingofdudes]

Get out of my thread, until you learn to differentiate personal attacks from differences of opinion.

edit: that, and getting joke
Ill keep Master Shake (http://alerttheinternet.ytmnd.com) on guard duty :cool:

Someone who listens to Pink Floyd regularly would never be a negative person
I dont know where you are going with this, seeing that most of PF's "golden years" albums are far from cheery.

[moaner]

Someone who listens to Pink Floyd regularly would never be a negative person.

:lol: 2 u

[Thor]

I dont know where you are going with this, seeing that most of PF's "golden years" albums are far from cheery.
Seriously. The Wall is filled with anger.

[Lunch]

I don't know about you guys but insanity, death, the downsides of life, disgusting capitalism, anger, and isolation have made me a really positive person.


(Sarcasm++)

[Thor]

I don't know about you guys but insanity, death, the downsides of life, disgusting capitalism, anger, and isolation have made me a really positive person.


(Sarcasm++)
Haha, you are right. Does PF talk about capitalism in The Wall or did they just talk about it in Animals?

[Lunch]

I think its just on Animals, but I'm not entirely sure.

[Riva]

They talk about fascism in the Wall.

[pink4118floyd]

Not much of a Pink Floyd fan, some of their stuff is okay though...
God Hates Us all a 2001 album by slayer.. slayer happens to be a legendary metal band.. but obviously very different from pink floyd.. now let me tell you something.. nothing slayer has ever done has even come close to the greatness that pink floyd puts into every song they have ever written.. Comfortably Numb on the P.U.L.S.E is probably on of the greatest pieces of music ever put together. its almost impossible to beat, the only thing that comes close is of course.
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hey you
Brain Damage
TIme
The Trial
Wish you were here
Shine on you crazy diamond pts 1&2
dogs
pigs(three different ones)
echoes
two suns in the sunset
money
run like hell
welcome to the machine
Hmmm. i see a patern in the artist here... and if you dont get that patern .. then you really dont belong in this thread..
stairway to heaven by Led Zeppelin also is one of the great pieces of music..
Red House By Jimi Hendrix.. those are great pieces of music
South of heaven..no
raining blood...no
angel of death no
spill the blood.. no
mandutory suicide.. no
diciple... no
exile.. no
PINK FLOYD RULES

[Riva]

..
God Hates Us all a 2001 album by slayer.. slayer happens to be a legendary metal band.. but obviously very different from pink floyd.. now let me tell you something.. nothing slayer has ever done has even come close to the greatness that pink floyd puts into every song they have ever written.. Comfortably Numb on the P.U.L.S.E is probably on of the greatest pieces of music ever put together. its almost impossible to beat, the only thing that comes close is of course.

hey you
Brain Damage
TIme
The Trial
Wish you were here
Shine on you crazy diamond pts 1&2
dogs
pigs(three different ones)
echoes
two suns in the sunset
money
run like hell
welcome to the machine

Hmmm. i see a patern in the artist here... and if you dont get that patern .. then you really dont belong in this thread..
stairway to heaven by Led Zeppelin also is one of the great pieces of music..
Red House By Jimi Hendrix.. those are great pieces of music
South of heaven..no
raining blood...no
angel of death no
spill the blood.. no
mandutory suicide.. no
diciple... no
exile.. no
PINK FLOYD RULES

Although I admire your devotion to Floyd, I'd rate Angel Of Death or Raining Blood over Stairway To Heaven.

[Jude]

Although I admire your devotion to Floyd, I'd rate Angel Of Death or Raining Blood over Stairway To Heaven.

I would beg to differ vehemently.

[moaner]

two suns in the sunset
welcome to the machine

I really don't rate these songs. 2SitS i found absolutely dire.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

Can someone here upload the song "The Final Cut" for me? I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Alessandro]

Can someone here upload the song "The Final Cut" for me? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Go here: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348135

I´m sure people will help you out pretty quick.

[Rothmans]

if the Final Cut is an album you cant request albums.

[moaner]

Can someone here upload the song "The Final Cut" for me? I'd greatly appreciate it.

are you sure?

Have your ears done something to annoy you recently?


Sorry. I just don't like that album at all. or momentary lapse. Some of the division bell is pretty cool, though.

[Alessandro]

if the Final Cut is an album you cant request albums.

He said he wanted the song, so it´s ok.

[Leanna]

Umm... I really don't know if there are people here, but how about we give some opinions, or something. so, here's an opinion question:

Was Pink Floyd better before or after Roger Waters left the band?

I definately think that Pink Floyd was the very best band ever, until Roger Waters left. No offense to David Gilmore, but he has awful lyrics. He tries and all, but PLEASE try harder. anyone else got something to say?

[Riva]

I'm uploading the song right now.

The Final Cut (http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1G61VGCWQ9I9X2BU3LFC7OYY75)

I like the album, perhaps as not as much as Floyd's other efforts, but I tend to look at it as a Roger Water's album, much like MLOR is a Gilmour album. It's got some boring sequences, yes, and it is somewhat uncomfortable listening at times.

Umm... I really don't know if there are people here, but how about we give some opinions, or something. so, here's an opinion question:

Was Pink Floyd better before or after Roger Waters left the band?

I definately think that Pink Floyd was the very best band ever, until Roger Waters left. No offense to David Gilmore, but he has awful lyrics. He tries and all, but PLEASE try harder. anyone else got something to say?

Dave wrote quite a few songs in Roger's time with the band, but I do think he is less of a lyricist than Roger. He still composes beautiful music though. However, I think Rick and Nick just lost the plot after Roger left, so I guess I'd have to say the entire band in their WYWH-era was the best.

[WheepingGuitar39]

Not only in the Wish You were Here era
I'd have tos ay, Meddle, Dark Side of hte Moon and Wish You were Here were TRULY work of ALL 4 members.
If you look at the song credits for the songs from those 3 albums, there are alot of songs that are credited to all 4 members, even Nick Mason.

After WYWH, like Animals, The Wall, The Final Cut, the lyrics are mostly exclusively to Roger Waters.. and well Final Cut is completely his in credit.
If you notice, Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division bell have credits to all sorts of poeple.
From Richard Wright's backup keyboardist to David Gilmour's wife.

[Rothmans]

Is this thread dying?

I know I havnt posted much but I usually lurk and read a load because I love this band more than any other band at the moment and it just seems to be dying very slowly nowadays (i hope this does not happen :/)

It seems that a lot of good threads are dying nowadays.

[dimenwylde22]

Hey all you people that live in chicago.
Is there a light show at the Tweeter Center this year.
I went last year and everyone got high and I WAS THE ONLY NOT GETTIN HIGH OFF THE FUMES.

[WheepingGuitar39]

I still dont understand why everyone incorporates Pink Floyd with Drugs?
And why almost everyone has to smoke up at a Floyd concert.

[MBS]

I still dont understand why everyone incorporates Pink Floyd with Drugs?

Their main songwriter for their first album went crazy because he used so much acid.

Most of their songs seem like drug induced songs to Non-Floyd Fans.