(Screamo/Post-Hardcore/Pop-Punk) The Used- In love and Death

[PunkinDonuts]

First off, let me say that I am a big fan of The Used, but I HATE ever other band out there that sounds like this (except From First To Last). So it is not my kind of music, but I looked past it when I got back into them when they debuted. So you guys might like this cd alot more than I did, if you like all the other crappy screamo/emo bands.


This is the 2nd album from The Used, and of of the most highly anticipated albums of 2004. and it is unfortunatly, a little disappointing...



Now when the Used debuted back in 2002, it was a breath of fresh air, from all the pop crap polluting the airwaves. Now, about 80% of bands have ripped of this sound, and sound just like them...


Story of the year? From First to Last? (sorry, Sonny) Underoath? and about 90% of "local bands" they all have the same formula, where it has melodic singing, and then screaming... So The Used, I guessed tried to stay away from that, and did it as best as they could, without sounding like all the carbon copies of their own band...



Tracks:



1. Take It Away- 2nd best song on the cd. This cd just gets you in the mood for hardcore personal songs. Great way to start off the cd. 5/5


2. I caught Fire- Uhh... wait is this The Used? Yes it is. Its not a bad song, but it is very emo, with cilched lyrics. It is a good song, but it just sounds very weak compared to Take it Away. 3.5/5


3. Let It Bleed- Again... this song doesn't start out sound like normal Used, but has the whole vibe. The bridge brings you back to the days of their debut album. This song is great, and has great lyrics. 4/5


4. All That I've Got- This song reminds me of their Christmas song they had a year ago, and it is a great song. again great lyrics, and very catchy beat... in fact listening to it right now, it has the same vibe as "Taste Of Ink" 4.5/5


5. Cut Up Angels- This song has a great beat, and melody, but it is kind of bland... It has once again amazing lyrics "This lust to my head almost feels like a gun"... but it just doesn't sound as raw, as The Used that we are used to. 3/5


6. Listening- This song starts out kind of boring, but the Chorus is kind of catchy, but what prevents me from skipping this song, is that the bridge is so god **** good to bang your head to, it makes up for the boring parts of it. Lots of screaming, which is great, cuz Bert actually sounds great screaming. Unlike most of the screamo bands out there like Story of the year. 3.5/5


7. Yesterday's Feelings- I just don't like this song, its really boring. But then again I am not a fan of emo... 1/5



8. Light with a Sharpened Edge- This song is alright... It has this vibe you don't normally get from The Used, but the melody is great, so its not a bad song, just not as good as what we have seen them do before. 3/5



9. Sound Effects and Overdramatics- At first, you will think this song is going to be extremely hardcore, with lots of screaming, but quickly goes into your typical screamo meldoic thing. This song sounds like what Story of the Year, and My Chemical Romance would sound like if they had a baby. 2/5



10. Hard To Say- This song reminds of (A Poetic Tradegy) from their old cd. Just music wise, lyrically, its your typical emo song, but it is good, espically since the last song was lame. 3.5/5



11. Lunacy Fringe- Starts out catchy, with great vocals, and cool bassline, but quickly gets boring with chrous... Its not too bad, but again, could be alot better 2.5/5


12. I'm A Fake- Wow... This is such a surprize. This is by far, the best song The Used has ever made. Starts out with this amazing poem, and quickly gets into the good ol' days of The Used on their older cd, but has the vibe that they have gotten way better at writing lyrics, even though they have always been good at them... I absolutly LOVE this song, and it makes up for the wishwashy songs that this album is kind of full of 6/5!!!!




Anyway, overall I give it a 3.5/5, but mainly because of "I'm a Fake". If it wasn't for that song, it would probably be a 3 or 2.


And 3.5 isn't that bad of a rating, its just that on their first cd, it was hard trying to find a BAD song... in fact I loved all the songs on their first cd. So it was hard to outdue their debut, espically trying to stay away from the stereotypes their popular sound created.







:D :D :D :) :upset:





P.S, Is there anything else I need to do this this review? This is my first one, and I don't know the stanards that well. How can I put a picture of the cd in or something...

[Sep]

Not a bad review. If I were you just put a link to the picture on Amazon or something. I'm not a big Used fan but I'm downloading I'm A Fake now.

Edit: oh yeah, The Used are not Screamo. Change it to Pop-Punk/Post Hardcore and it will be fine I think.

[shabutie]

decent review, its your opinion but you bash screamo way to much, every genre of music can be bulked together just to bash it if you really want to you just chose my favorite one :(

ps. theres alot of different styles out there and your blowing them all off because of your generalization of screamo

[X0senses_fail0X]

Yeah your review was very generalized. I dont believe that you should review a type of music that you pretty much dont like.
Anyways, I loved this cd, especially tracks 1-4 and 12

[PunkinDonuts]

I was saying that, so that people know, that I won't see it the same way they do. If I just review it, people will think that since I love The Used, that I would like all those other bands, but I don't. So if I just said "This song sucks" People would probably ignore a song that THEY might end up loving, because it is THEIR kind of music you know?


Like if I was reading a review, about some band I kind of liked, and the guy said "Wow this song sucks!!" I would be like "Woah... I probably shouldn't check out that song"



But if he went into more detail like


"Wow this song sucks... It sounds like a Green Day song!!!"


I would probably be like... "Oh ok, this guy doesn't like green day, but I love em, so we don't see eye to eye on music... so maybe I will like this song"



and I don't HATE screamo, I just don't like how almost EVERY band out there (espically local bands) are all screamo! It just kills the genre really fast.



Story of the Year started out as this sweet Alternative band called Big Blue Monkey, but once The Used got popular, they changed... and I just think that sucks... I don't really hate the music, I just don't like what it has done to the music... and local scene.

[SubtleDagger]

This band sucks so bad it's unbelievable that they have a fan base.

Seriously, their last record was bad enough, but they're progressively getting worse.

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

^ They're great!!! They practically started it all for everyone else out there...Thursday, TBS, SOTY, FFTL, even though I like FFTL...oh well I am too tired to care right now...see ya in the morn' all!

[SubtleDagger]

^ They're great!!! They practically started it all for everyone else out there...Thursday, TBS, SOTY, FFTL, even though I like FFTL...oh well I am too tired to care right now...see ya in the morn' all!
This is the stupidest post I have read in recent memory.

Thursday have been around far longer than these morons. I can't even think of what FFTL stands for, but I doubt I want to know, since Taking Back Sunday and Story Of The Year are two of the worst bands in this genre.

The Used, however, is worse. While those bands can ride the screamo wave and still sound catchy, The Used manages to sound terrible at every single turn.

[FourTouchCombination]

This band sucks so bad it's unbelievable that they have a fan base.

Seriously, their last record was bad enough, but they're progressively getting worse.
You aren't by chance deaf, are you?

[SubtleDagger]

I mioght ask you the same question.

[Zesty Mordant]

I mioght ask you the same question.

oh snap.

and i was thinking the same thing too, what the hell does FFTL stand for? probably something like February Falling to Leaves or something "deep and poetic" like that.

but in accords to the review, i enjoyed the first album mainly as a guilty pleasure, but this new albums sucks balls. all the edge is gone: the angular yet still poppy guitar riffs, the dissonant rhythm section, and most importantly, the screaming. instead there's just a plethora of crappy alterna-rock power ballads.

[PunkinDonuts]

FFTL= From First To Last. www.purevolume.com/fromfirsttolast

[X_imnotcool_X]

i must say that i am a hardcore screamo fan and i like bands such as underoath and norma jean and i will say that from first to last is a very musically talented group

[SubtleDagger]

In that case, they have nothing in common with The Used.

Also, Norma Jean is not a screamo band.

[TMA]

FFTL= From First To Last. www.purevolume.com/fromfirsttolast
Heh heh heh :naughty: . That's so awesome that you know Sonny (or at least knew he existed before the band). They own.
And, I haven't bought the new Used CD yet, but... despite your review, I'm still going to. I love them. And unlike you, I'm actually like Emo, so... yeah. Despite what you mostly said about the album, I think it'll probably be a good addition to my collection.

[asilaydying14]

This is the stupidest post I have read in recent memory.

Thursday have been around far longer than these morons. I can't even think of what FFTL stands for, but I doubt I want to know, since Taking Back Sunday and Story Of The Year are two of the worst bands in this genre.

The Used, however, is worse. While those bands can ride the screamo wave and still sound catchy, The Used manages to sound terrible at every single turn.

why dont you like the used give reasons and explain yourself because i have their last Cd and i cant find a reason to dislike them, also norma jean is screamo, because theyre not hardcore or metalcore or whatever else you bring up. the used dont sound like taking back sunday or story of the year either, the used are a lot less pop and dont judge the used on "the taste of ink" or "buried myself alive"

[BuddyBigsby]

- From First to Last = absolutely terrible

- Norma Jean are not screamo, nor are they even remotely pseudo-screamo such as the bands being discussed in this thread.

- SubtleDagger is the man.

[asilaydying14]

- From First to Last = absolutely terrible

- Norma Jean are not screamo, nor are they even remotely pseudo-screamo such as the bands being discussed in this thread.

- SubtleDagger is the man.

what? what are they then?

[BuddyBigsby]

First of all, screamo is not bands like From First to Last, The Used, Thursday, Hawthorne Heights, new Underoath, etc. no matter how much MTV wants you to think it is. Even if that WAS screamo, Norma Jean sounds absolutely NOTHING like said bands. How you can think that for even a second bewilders me.

The most fitting term would be metalcore, even though that's not accurate and a complete other genre argument in itself.

[TMA]

First of all, screamo is not bands like From First to Last, The Used, Thursday, Hawthorne Heights, new Underoath, etc. no matter how much MTV wants you to think it is. Even if that WAS screamo, Norma Jean sounds absolutely NOTHING like said bands. How you can think that for even a second bewilders me.

The most fitting term would be metalcore, even though that's not accurate and a complete other genre argument in itself.

... Last time I checked, we weren't saying that they were screamo, all we were saying was "we really like them".
And, in reply to an earlier comment of yours, no, FFTL is not terrible. They are ****ing skilled as all hell, and they write kick *** music and kick *** lyrics.
You're just bitter cause you're poor...

[SubtleDagger]

... Last time I checked, we weren't saying that they were screamo, all we were saying was "we really like them".
And, in reply to an earlier comment of yours, no, FFTL is not terrible. They are ****ing skilled as all hell, and they write kick *** music and kick *** lyrics.
You're just bitter cause you're poor...
That idiot said they were screamo, so Bigsby corrected him, and rightfully so. Unless you're blind, that was an obvious statement he made. Anyone who says those bands are screamo is an idiot. Norma Jean is clearly metalcore. The Used is crappy hardcore/pop-punk, as are current Underoath.

I also know that when someone says I'm jealous of a band because they're making money that not only is the band a piece of ****, but the fan is a complete retard. Get a life.

[SubtleDagger]

why dont you like the used give reasons and explain yourself because i have their last Cd and i cant find a reason to dislike them, also norma jean is screamo, because theyre not hardcore or metalcore or whatever else you bring up. the used dont sound like taking back sunday or story of the year either, the used are a lot less pop and dont judge the used on "the taste of ink" or "buried myself alive"
Reasons Why The Used Are A Bad Band:

Bert Mcracken is one of the most awful singers I have ever had the disprivelage of hearing
The guitarist shames the Allman brothers by being an Allman and still not being able to play anything even remotely good on guitar
The band cannot find a melody between them on this record at any point
On the last record, they could, but all those melodies were horrid and should never have been used
The lyrics are trite, boring and stupid
The vocals are purposefully an imitation of hardcore screaming and pop-punk annoyance, but it's obvious Bert's voice is absolutely nothing like that and he's trying to sound stupid


By the way, I've heard both records front to back.

Is that good enough, or should I go on?

[The JoZ]

I had the misfortune of seeing these guys live.

One of the worst bands I've ever seen. There was nothing remotely good about them at all.

[haRdcoRe_gRunGe]

Lol keep it coming SubtleDagger....i hate the used and if i had their cd i would wipe my *** with it.

[SubtleDagger]

I still can't believe anyone would call Norma Jean screamo. That's like calling Morbid Angel nu-metal.

[TrailOfTragedy]

Hahaha, Subtle just absolutely tooled everyone.

[TMA]

That idiot said they were screamo, so Bigsby corrected him, and rightfully so. Unless you're blind, that was an obvious statement he made. Anyone who says those bands are screamo is an idiot. Norma Jean is clearly metalcore. The Used is crappy hardcore/pop-punk, as are current Underoath.

I also know that when someone says I'm jealous of a band because they're making money that not only is the band a piece of ****, but the fan is a complete retard. Get a life.

Why can't people just accept the fact that Emo/Screamo has evolved?
Every genre of music evolves into something that doesn't sound the way it used to. Granted, with all those genres, there are a few who stay true to the original sound, but that doesn't mean the new bands aren't classified as that genre.
Look, bands like The Used, FFTL, Underoath, My Chemical Romance; they are all MODERN Emo/Screamo. Just because you listen to those few bands that stay true to the original sound, doesn't change that. Things change.
Now:
"Bert Mcracken is one of the most awful singers I have ever had the disprivelage of hearing"
So... you pay more attention to the vocals than the actual music... good job, you've just showed us how little you care about music.
"The guitarist shames the Allman brothers by being an Allman and still not being able to play anything even remotely good on guitar"
... why even comment? After reading that, I watch what very little respect for you I had just wash away.
"The lyrics are trite, boring and stupid
The vocals are purposefully an imitation of hardcore screaming and pop-punk annoyance, but it's obvious Bert's voice is absolutely nothing like that and he's trying to sound stupid"
And this brings me back to my first comment. Prick.

Happy? I am.

[SubtleDagger]

Those bands are not screamo. You are simply wrong.

The vocals are a part of the music, as are the lyrics. Sorry if you somehow fail to realize that. Even if you took them out, there would still be nothing of value.

[BuddyBigsby]

Psst, TMA, your stupid is showing.

You couldn't be more wrong. Not only is that not at all what modern emo/screamo is (because modern emo/screamo DOES exist and it's nothing like those bands), but you're actually attempting to argue about something you know nothing about and trying to masquerade it with the "evolution" argument.

[TMA]

Those bands are not screamo. You are simply wrong.

The vocals are a part of the music, as are the lyrics. Sorry if you somehow fail to realize that. Even if you took them out, there would still be nothing of value.

I believe I was talking about EMO/Screamo in general.

[TMA]

Psst, TMA, your stupid is showing.

You couldn't be more wrong. Not only is that not at all what modern emo/screamo is (because modern emo/screamo DOES exist and it's nothing like those bands), but you're actually attempting to argue about something you know nothing about and trying to masquerade it with the "evolution" argument.

My bad. It's an offshoot of modern Emo/Screamo. It's a sub-genre, making it, yet again, Emo/Screamo.

[ToRidTheDisease]

i love the used

[SubtleDagger]

My bad. It's an offshoot of modern Emo/Screamo. It's a sub-genre, making it, yet again, Emo/Screamo.
No, you're wrong. Those bands have no relation to any of it. Just like Bigsby said.

[The NPC]

No, you're wrong. Those bands have no relation to any of it. Just like Bigsby said.

Furthermore, those groups that are 'screamo-teh emoz' have no ties with the original DC Hardcore units that came out in the 80s or the Post-Punk groups that surfaced in the US and UK. These groups are mostly tied into Pop-Punk groups of the 90s and slight jangle pop.

[Zesty Mordant]

Why can't people just accept the fact that Emo/Screamo has evolved?
Every genre of music evolves into something that doesn't sound the way it used to. Granted, with all those genres, there are a few who stay true to the original sound, but that doesn't mean the new bands aren't classified as that genre.
Look, bands like The Used, FFTL, Underoath, My Chemical Romance; they are all MODERN Emo/Screamo. Just because you listen to those few bands that stay true to the original sound, doesn't change that. Things change.


yes they have evolved. they have evolved into pop-punk. this genre is often characterized by merging simple, catchy melodies with punk-based rhythms and I-IV-V chord progressions, and sudden loud-soft shifts in dynamics (often synonymous with clean-distortion). i don't know about the other bands (my chemical romance certainly possesses it), but the focus of this thread is on the used, and they definately exhibit all of those characters mentioned.


Now:
"Bert Mcracken is one of the most awful singers I have ever had the disprivelage of hearing"
So... you pay more attention to the vocals than the actual music... good job, you've just showed us how little you care about music.

too bad subtledagger goes on to recognizing other the factors, BESIDES THE VOCALS, in the used that he thinks sucks,


"The guitarist shames the Allman brothers by being an Allman and still not being able to play anything even remotely good on guitar"
... why even comment? After reading that, I watch what very little respect for you I had just wash away.


now i don't know if the used guitarist is actually related to the allmans, if he is then he is a real disgrace to his family's legacy. otherwise i could say that subtledagger's criticism here is a little weak, however your response is even worse in that it you criticize dagger on a personal level and not on the basis of he had stated. you could've at least mentioned some of allman's qualities.

now i will add further comment that on the last album, i was somewhat impressed with the guitarist knack for unorthodox chords and merging them into a catchy, poppy formula, and was also capable of some neat angular melodies here and there. but with this new album, his lines are just uninspired, boring, and hackneyed (loud-soft, clean-distortion, standard chord progressions in drop-d, etc.). he has really failed to grow as a guitarist and songwriter since the last album.


"The lyrics are trite, boring and stupid
The vocals are purposefully an imitation of hardcore screaming and pop-punk annoyance, but it's obvious Bert's voice is absolutely nothing like that and he's trying to sound stupid"
And this brings me back to my first comment. Prick.

Happy? I am.

i think dagger is right on here for the most part in terms of their image and lyrics. the lyrics are horrible and are ridicuously over-dramatic and lacking in any depth (which can be fine in a pop-punk context, except you can tell he's trying to be deep). as for the vocals, dagger is not merely commenting on the quality of the vocals, but the way in which they use the vocals to try and define and market an image of themselves as hardcore and strictly non-commercial. in reality we all know that this is not true. your response here is just plain terrible since you go back to your first comment, which also sucks, and you then resort to childish name-calling.

so overall, it looks like dagger still wins here.

[SubtleDagger]

Actually, his name is Quinn Allman, but he may not be related. Someone told me he was.

It doens't matter, either way, his guitar lines are ludicrously out of place on this record.

[Hot Darn!]

I agree 100% with Subtle Dagger about their new album and the whole genre thing. While I did like a couple of tracks off their old album, this is horribley dissapointing.
I actually thought that they would evolve and maybe their style would change and progress into something more along the lines of "Say Days ago" Instead they fell into a pop-punk / emo sort of thing.
And Norma Jean is not screamo in anyway lol.

[BuddyBigsby]

Owned. Now Subtle, if you will join me in this victory celebration...

*struts*

*breakdances*

[SubtleDagger]

*skanks*

*plays air guitar to metalcore breakdown*

[radianteclipse]

Yeah, I only bought this cd because my friend says they are the greatest band ever created. Well..its alright, but not incredibly great. I personally prefer My Chemical Romance over the Used, it's more interesting.

[lennonlsd]

oi subtle dagger, who r u to criticise a band, the used are great, how good are u at singing, how many songs have u made, the lyrics are great, farkin great band.

[SubtleDagger]

That's a terrible argument. You don't have to make music to dislike something. That's like saying I have to live in Idaho before I can say I don't like the way a potato tastes.

[BuddyBigsby]

People that bad at spelling aren't allowed to argue their opinions.

[TMA]

Meh... guess I just like music in general, despite what genre is "Really" is.
The only activity I love more than listening to music, has to be arguing with people about music.

[BillCosby]

Psst, TMA, your stupid is showing.


refl

[miserychick]

i kinda new from the moment i first heard them on their first cd that they were scremo/punk...no matter what anybody says they are a good band with some great lyrics and really good melodies...they know how to piece things togeter and they do it well enough to be heard and have a stong fanbase (being a fan myself).....wether you love them or hate them they still deserve alot of credit.......

[axeslinga_32]

I'm into them, i credit them for getting me into good music, and they have some different, interesting kind of riffs. i havnt bought this yet, but ive heard listening and take it away and it's okay. Ive heard some other stuff and it bored me.

[axeslinga_32]

and i have an un-biased opinion in terms of the genre:


the used = pop punk/ 90's emo with screaming.

[CommieCanada]

i love the genre bitching threads. of course Sublte and Bigsby schooled everyone in here.

i like the used's first album, but only for an occasional listen. they are not the second coming or anything

[InLoveAndDeath]

Not a bad review. If I were you just put a link to the picture on Amazon or something. I'm not a big Used fan but I'm downloading I'm A Fake now.

Edit: oh yeah, The Used are not Screamo. Change it to Pop-Punk/Post Hardcore and it will be fine I think.

The Used is indeed screamo.


I don't agree with a lot of those reviews, I thought the CD was amazing, it's almost as good as the self titled debut and I love it. I don't see why you dont like most of the songs. I do agree with you on I'm A Fake though, that song is so amazing.

[CommieCanada]

The Used is indeed screamo.*
*not true. just because it has screaming in it, does not make it screamo

[BuddyBigsby]

The Used is indeed screamo.


Turn off MTV.

[SubtleDagger]

I miss DFelon and his CTTS essays.

Stupid people and their "screamo".

[dudewhoa25]

norma jean is awesome, whoever thought they were screamo, **** YOU

[JaVeY]

I liked their last cd, and i like this one even better.

[asilaydying14]

whether norma jean is metalcore or screamo is arguable because they aren't metal influenced and most metal bands have a deeper guiatr sound and a deeper voice which norma jean doesnt fit in the category of either because the vocals are pretty high pitched compared to most and so is the guitar

[Win A Rabbit]

whether norma jean is metalcore or screamo is arguable because they aren't metal influenced and most metal bands have a deeper guiatr sound and a deeper voice which norma jean doesnt fit in the category of either because the vocals are pretty high pitched compared to most and so is the guitar
awesome point in a thread about the new used cd

[BuddyBigsby]

whether norma jean is metalcore or screamo is arguable because they aren't metal influenced and most metal bands have a deeper guiatr sound and a deeper voice which norma jean doesnt fit in the category of either because the vocals are pretty high pitched compared to most and so is the guitar

No x Infinity.

[SubtleDagger]

Norma Jean is not ****ing screamo.

Screamo = screaming + emo

Norma Jean have no aspect of emo at any point in time in any of their music. Neither do The Used. And of course Norma Jean is metal-influenced, they were a frigging nu-metal band called Ludicrous (or however they spelled it) only a few years ago.

[asilaydying14]

Norma Jean is not ****ing screamo.

Screamo = screaming + emo

Norma Jean have no aspect of emo at any point in time in any of their music. Neither do The Used. And of course Norma Jean is metal-influenced, they were a frigging nu-metal band called Ludicrous (or however they spelled it) only a few years ago.

Staring at the world through the whole you put in my
hand. That was caused by a blade you gently inserted.
I did this for you, not for your religon, not for your
patterns. I did this for you. I did this for a man
like you. Stop searching and find Me. I am stabbed by grace
and slinging blood.


sounds emo to me, and i never said anything about the used being emo or screamo

[SubtleDagger]

Emo has little to nothing to do with lyrics.

Educate yourself. www.fourfa.com.

[DFelon204409]

Emo has little to nothing to do with lyrics.

Educate yourself. www.fourfa.com.

Lyrics were the initial reason for the split though. Mackaye accidentally started it by trying to evade the tough guy hardcore and people dubbed it "emotional." From there though the genre picked up a completely different sound than normal hardcore, as did Fugazi, which is probably why Fugazi isn't considerred emo officially though it shares traits.

[BuddyBigsby]

True DFelon, but lyrics don't define a band's style. Deicide could start using Saetia lyrics and keep the same music and it wouldn't make them emo.

[SubtleDagger]

Exactly, it all has to do with the sound, the music itself. That is always what makes a genre; it is never the lyrics or the image or anything else.

[DFelon204409]

Jesus those were three straight intelligent posts.

CLARITY!

[Asmoth]

Another great band has 2 b Story of the year, great tracks and sick as hell screaming

[BuddyBigsby]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

[viagwalt617]

Soty... Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahah I Hope You Are Being Sarcastic

[rushy]

for all of you bagging the used. if you hate the used so much why have you posted so much on this thread. especially subtledagger. i admit this cd isnt as good as the first but thats because the first was awesome! its still a good cd tho. So all you used haters that have no life and to much time on the net go find a new hobby lil bitches.

[SubtleDagger]

I posted in this thread, and am doing so right at this moment, to point out that you and many others that have posted are complete retards.

But right now, you especially.

[BuddyBigsby]

hahahahahahahahaha, how many pwnings can a thread take?

[rushy]

alrite so if u hate the used so much why do u keep coming back. You have way to much time on your hands.

[BuddyBigsby]

He already answered that very question in his last post, half-wit.

[SubtleDagger]

I posted in this thread, and am doing so right at this moment, to point out that you and many others that have posted are complete retards.

But right now, you especially.
Indeed.

[DFelon204409]

This thread has been taken over by people who hate The Used. How awesome is that.

[SubtleDagger]

You mean intelligent people?

[pixiesfanyo]

I saw person that had a shirt on that said bert is my homeboy.

...

Now there is a trashbag covered in blood outside my basement door.

[SubtleDagger]

Good man.

I just wish it was Bert.

[DFelon204409]

You mean intelligent people?

yes. exactly.

[thebitterend]

well the first self-titled album was a lot more raw and less poppy. I almost crapped myself when i heard a couple tracks from this album. hands down it is pretty pathetic. Half of the album doesnt even sound like the used. It might as well be another CD from My Chemical Romance (but worse).

I'm a Fake is obvisouly the best song and pretty good out of all their stuff. Other than that I can only bear listening to 2 other songs on there. Why did they change their style to be so pop friendly and crappy? Lets just hope the next one is more like their debut.

[frontsideflip4u]

i hate the poem in the beginning of im a fake...it irritates the **** outta me

[BuddyBigsby]

Why did they change their style to be so pop friendly and crappy?

Do you really have to ask?

[thebitterend]

well of course money is the issue, but they were already dubbed as one of the best new acts when they came out, so obviously a lot of people liked their old style. if people listened back then, i think they would now.

[Gnarmageddon]

Has anyone noticed how the Used and My Chemical Romance sound pretty much exactly the same? And in "Take It Away", Bert says something about a chemical romance...

[thebitterend]

Has anyone noticed how the Used and My Chemical Romance sound pretty much exactly the same? And in "Take It Away", Bert says something about a chemical romance...

Yeah and the guy from MCR looks like him too. same style and everything.

[BuddyBigsby]

They don't like each other.

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

Rushy, just because they hate the Used doesn't mean they cannot post in a thread about The Used. That's the whole flipping point. Now that I have heard the new CD I do not like them either. Also, they are not screamo, screamo=CTTS. Listen to Crow Quill and compare it to the "hardest" song that the Used have made and tell me which is screamo. Can you do that? It's not that hard I promise you. By the way, don't try and argue against Subtle, he always wins.

[Dopester]

I liked this album, infact i like it more than the first, i think i'm the only person who thinks that. oh well.

[elmodman]

This is an interesting thread... i think i'll add my opinion

First off i like The Used. they arent great, but they are entertaining.(imo)

Second, they arent "screamo". but i believe they have borowed a drop of the "screamo" style to create their own sound and attitude. If anything they are "Pop-punk" not emo.(Which brings me to my next point)

A band cant be "Emo" because of their lyrics, emo is the feeling of the song. It is when you can feel the emotion of the songwritter, whether it be pain, sorrow, sadness, whatever.


Thank you for your time.


P.S.- good review, i really like some of the tracks on this disk

[BLKSPTMBR06]

i liked used at first when they first came out becuz they had a different sound then some other bands

but the newer CD is really gay

you people shouldnt be callin other people stupid becuz of their opinions, unless the opinion is about you

THE USED SUCKS NOW

[BLKSPTMBR06]

oh yeah and dagger schooled you all

[DFelon204409]

This is an interesting thread... i think i'll add my opinion

First off i like The Used. they arent great, but they are entertaining.(imo)

Second, they arent "screamo". but i believe they have borowed a drop of the "screamo" style to create their own sound and attitude. If anything they are "Pop-punk" not emo.(Which brings me to my next point)

A band cant be "Emo" because of their lyrics, emo is the feeling of the song. It is when you can feel the emotion of the songwritter, whether it be pain, sorrow, sadness, whatever.


Thank you for your time.


P.S.- good review, i really like some of the tracks on this disk

Rushy, just because they hate the Used doesn't mean they cannot post in a thread about The Used. That's the whole flipping point. Now that I have heard the new CD I do not like them either. Also, they are not screamo, screamo=CTTS. Listen to Crow Quill and compare it to the "hardest" song that the Used have made and tell me which is screamo. Can you do that? It's not that hard I promise you. By the way, don't try and argue against Subtle, he always wins.


n00bs with a clue. It's amazing.

[cbmartinez]

I think everyone on this forum knows about CTTS by now.

[elmodman]

n00bs with a clue. It's amazing.

just because im new and dont post every day of the week doesnt mean im stupid.
i appreciate the complement :thumb:

[Riley12988]

Subtle, Buddy, and DFelon--you kick anus. Your crusades have educated so many lifeless noobs. You've also contributed in bringing the surreal bliss that is Circle Takes the Square to the masses... well, at least to these forums. We can look forward to intelligent discussion of REAL music in the future, although everyone gets some benefit or enjoyment from all the pwnage going down in most of these genre wars. Thanks, guys!

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

n00bs with a clue. It's amazing.

Thanks DFelon, you and Buddy and Subtle really do educate us. :thumb: Without you guys I wouldn't have come to the realization that there really are no genres. Based solely on the fact that no two bands are the same.
But that is just my thoughts. :)

[BuddyBigsby]

Well, thanks guys. Glad people listened up.

[CommieCanada]

Subtle, Buddy, and DFelon--you kick anus. Your crusades have educated so many lifeless noobs. You've also contributed in bringing the surreal bliss that is Circle Takes the Square to the masses... well, at least to these forums. We can look forward to intelligent discussion of REAL music in the future, although everyone gets some benefit or enjoyment from all the pwnage going down in most of these genre wars. Thanks, guys!
i find it quite irritating myself. perhaps it is because they re-hash the same points over and over.

but then again, the n00bs keep making the same mistakes over and over....

oh well. i like the used. end of story for me

[BuddyBigsby]

That's like saying year after year, a teacher re-hashes his same lesson to new classes.

I only re-hash my points when teaching them to someone new to the forum, or someone who hasn't seen my points before, hence they're not 're-hashed' to said person. Besides, its not like the genre changes or any of my 'points' change, so of course it is just going to be re-hashed. Plus, I usually back up my case with some information and history, rather than just going 'LISTEN TO REAL EMO!!!11 www.purevolume.com/circletakesthesquare'

[chips88]

I think everyone on this forum knows about CTTS by now.

haha, yeah. dfelon got me on to them like 3 months ago,now they are like my favorite band, and even if the arent, they are a big influence. haha, and just love watching people get pwned in this thread. it is classic, simply classic :cool:

[SubtleDagger]

I like you kids.

[elmodman]

I like you too :p

[SlickShoes]

i'm listening to the CD right now...so far it's decent but i like their old one a lot more. i probably haven't heard enough of it to have much input but i will say that i like the originality of bert's voice...and the sound of thier band despite what genre they fall into

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

They don't like each other.

They don't? That's weird because Bert sings backup vox on MCR's-"You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison."

[CommieCanada]

That's like saying year after year, a teacher re-hashes his same lesson to new classes.

I only re-hash my points when teaching them to someone new to the forum, or someone who hasn't seen my points before, hence they're not 're-hashed' to said person. Besides, its not like the genre changes or any of my 'points' change, so of course it is just going to be re-hashed. Plus, I usually back up my case with some information and history, rather than just going 'LISTEN TO REAL EMO!!!11 www.purevolume.com/circletakesthesquare'
well, i have quite a bit more respect for you because you REALLY REALLY know your stuff. i am sick of people plugging CTTS and fourfa

[BuddyBigsby]

They don't? That's weird because Bert sings backup vox on MCR's-"You Know What They Do To Guys Like Us In Prison."

Is that off the new album or the old one? Because I believe said bad blood occurred between those albums, although the chick I know who's friends with them is sort of what you would call a lying cunt, so I could be misinformed.

[CommieCanada]

Is that off the new album or the old one? Because I believe said bad blood occurred between those albums, although the chick I know who's friends with them is sort of what you would call a lying cunt, so I could be misinformed.
that song is on the new album

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

Is that off the new album or the old one? Because I believe said bad blood occurred between those albums, although the chick I know who's friends with them is sort of what you would call a lying cunt, so I could be misinformed.

yeah, that could have happened, but it seems as though they are good friends, seeing as they are on tour together.

[BuddyBigsby]

Nevermind, then.

[Sum41TheUsed]

I liked this album, and the Self-titled debuet, they are one of my favorite bands, i dont care if they changed their style, just go with it and stop crying, they are doing it for their reason. If you cant understand that then you shouldnt be posting your opinion. They still have a unique style whether you want to admit it or not, thats your choice. I seen them live last week with Atreyu and The Bled, and I thought all 3 of them put on one hell of a show, in fact I think it was the best I have ever been to.

[Zesty Mordant]

^^^^

yes they have changed their style, from potentially good pop-punk band to absolute melo-dramatic **** e.

and god forbid people should have opinions on what they like and don't like.

[miltonj621]

Having an opinion on music, even if its misguided, does not make someone stupid. To dagger and whoever else, there is no need to come on the Used forem and be an ******* to everyone who likes the Used. Your reasons for not liking them are understandible and thats fine but you can leave the forem now that you've said your peace. I disagree with most of you in that Bert is an excellent singer with good range and not just cause he can scream or what not. Its at least a respectable voice. No, Quinn is not a phenomenonal guitar player, but he has some interesting voicings and if the music kicks *** to some people, then it works. They are doing their job by entertaining and thats the end of story. If you want to critisize modern music, perhaps your looking in the wrong direction

[Don't mess with Die Hunns!!!]

Having an opinion on music, even if its misguided, does not make someone stupid. To dagger and whoever else, there is no need to come on the Used forem and be an ******* to everyone who likes the Used. Your reasons for not liking them are understandible and thats fine but you can leave the forem now that you've said your peace. I disagree with most of you in that Bert is an excellent singer with good range and not just cause he can scream or what not. Its at least a respectable voice. No, Quinn is not a phenomenonal guitar player, but he has some interesting voicings and if the music kicks *** to some people, then it works. They are doing their job by entertaining and thats the end of story. If you want to critisize modern music, perhaps your looking in the wrong direction

There's no reason for those kids who like the "new and improved"* Used, to come on to us and be ********. I think that's all that needs to be said.

*sarcasm :)

P.S. I am really Nick13's The Best!!! but i can't access my account from school so this is my school s/n.

[SubtleDagger]

Having an opinion on music, even if its misguided, does not make someone stupid. To dagger and whoever else, there is no need to come on the Used forem and be an ******* to everyone who likes the Used. Your reasons for not liking them are understandible and thats fine but you can leave the forem now that you've said your peace. I disagree with most of you in that Bert is an excellent singer with good range and not just cause he can scream or what not. Its at least a respectable voice. No, Quinn is not a phenomenonal guitar player, but he has some interesting voicings and if the music kicks *** to some people, then it works. They are doing their job by entertaining and thats the end of story. If you want to critisize modern music, perhaps your looking in the wrong direction
Honestly, you think that Bert has a good voice. There is no help for you.

And I am most definitely looking in the right direction, considering these guys are exactly what's wrong with modern music.
I seen them live last week with Atreyu and The Bled
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Man, I feel sorry for you.

[Nick13's The Best!!!]

Good job Subtle.

[Happymeal]

I used to like The Used

...

[Sendor]

I don't claim to know what 'emo' is, nor do i really care. I listen to whatever I like the sound of, and I liked the useds first album, and even though 'In Love And Death' is different, i still like it. I don't care what genre they wind up getting pidgeonholed into, if you like the music listen to it, who cares what genre it is.

[Drowning hERO]

I like this album but yes alot of new scremo/post-hardcore bands do sound extremely a-like [creepy!] :evil:

[fenderstratboy2]

I Totally agree with this review. the emo-ish songs arent that great.

[TheGerm]

The dillenger escape plan are awful, they sound so sh*t and there all a bunch of amateur musicians. mathcore my ***