Emo Community Thread

[cbmartinez]

When I band has some nice guitar work but horrid vocals, I can usually get past the vocals and like them. But I just can't get past those JD vocals.

[DFelon204409]

On 'Presents' the JD vocals are bad, but on their other stuff they're amazing.

Frodus are awesome.

Hey have you heard Decahedron? They're Frodus' new band. Or, rather, ex-members of Frodus are in this band.

[tornpictures]

I always thought he sounded ridiculous on the older stuff. Nevertheless, I still liked them.

Their live shows were sick! He never used a mic and eventually his voice got all ****ed up. That's why they used a sort of 'megaphone' on 'Presents.'

I've heard of Decahedron.. what do they sound like?

[StandingStill]

Decahedron are great kinda post-punky, dischord stuff... i think someone from fugazi is in them...
anyways I got bored one day so I read most of the 82 page thread. Pretty sad, but mostly interesting. Just wanted to say thanks for everyone that recommended all the cool bands. Couple of things...some one mentioned 'The Murder Of Rosa Luxembourg' they started out as a joke metal band, then went a bit mental on their full length, dont think you can call it emo/screamo at all... THEN, they released an ep called 'secret bark language' which is really wierd and mellow, almost jazz...

I would like a hand with the definitions of the following... (dont think any of them are 'pure' emo or screamo, but the influences are clear).
Small Brown Bike
Million Dead
Dino Velvet http://www.purevolume.com/dinovelvet
Sparks, Lights and Flames http://www.purevolume.com/sparkslightsandflames
Auditory Aphasia http://www.purevolume.com/AuditoryAphasia

thanks guys n gals

[BuddyBigsby]

Their live shows were sick! He never used a mic and eventually his voice got all ****ed up. That's why they used a sort of 'megaphone' on 'Presents.'

Psh, I played one show in my life and it was without a mic. Big whoop.

[cbmartinez]

Dino Velvet is from around here. I don't think they're really emo though.

[PlasticGangster]

tornpictures, you post at vlv don't you? well you did before it went down.
anyways, this kid here is trying to book funeral diner.
i hope he does

[BuddyBigsby]

So before I trash this guy with negative feedback and give away or throw away the Orchid shirt I just got in... sure it's counterfeit?

[tornpictures]

100%.

He never said it was real though, so I don't think you could actually get him for it..

[RetiredAt21]

Bigsby, get the guys address, and go to his house. Then proceed to kill him.

[BuddyBigsby]

He lives in Long Beach. My friend's cousin is like a Blood out there.

I'm too nice for that though.

[RetiredAt21]

I'm not, give ME his address. Har har har.

[BuddyBigsby]

Now I have a shirt and nothing to do with it. Ideas anyone?

Did I hear wear it like a thong and take n00dz?

[RetiredAt21]

Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It Do It!!!!

[SpecialBoy]

Someone got pwned by the caps filter.

[tornpictures]

Trade it for records or something.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

He lives in Long Beach. My friend's cousin is like a Blood out there.

I'm too nice for that though.

Long Beach nigga!!!! Long Beach isn't ghetto it just depends where you go. Like North and West Long Beach is the ghetto. Downtown & East Long Beach isn't the ghetto. You might want to stay away from Downtown b/c that is kind of where all the gay guys roll. East Long Beach is the true sub-urbs an my home. :thumb:

[BuddyBigsby]

Yeah, I know Long Beach has some ok areas. I was trying to argue it with Shane once.

[RetiredAt21]

I think my cousins live in Long Beach.

[SpecialBoy]

I have a cousin who lives in LAGUNA beach.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I've been there.

[Shikyo]

Hot Cross are going to start touring again next week. They are starting their tour in Ohio. Just thought that I'd drop by and say it.

[Wow]

Already been mentioned. I'm seeing them on the 28th.

[RetiredAt21]

Are they coming to PA?

[Wow]

26th. Pittsburgh. And again on 5/15 in philadelphia

[RetiredAt21]

Thanks. I think I'll go to the one in Philly.

[Bartender]

Don't suppose they'll be making their way over to England, will they.

[Shikyo]

I don't think that they'll be going to England. They don't even ship merch overseas. I'm also going to see them on the 28th - so obviously you're in Ohio aswell.

[BuddyBigsby]

Bleeding Kansas touring all over this summer, go support them.

dates w/ Lords
6/2 Ventura CA @ The Loft
6/7 Burbank CA @ Daniel's Garage
6/8 Los Angeles CA @ The Smell
6/9 Phoenix AZ @ The Phix w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/10 Tucson AZ @ The Boardwalk Cafe w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/11 Clovis NM @ The Hole w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/12 Colorado Springs CO

6/13 Wichita KS
6/14 Tulsa OK
6/15 Dallas TX w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack
6/16 Austin TX w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack

dates w/ Graf Orlock
6/17 Houston TX @ Fitxgeralds w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack
6/18 Baton Rouge LA
6/19 Hattiesburg MS
6/20 Memphis TN
6/21 Clarksville TN @ Chad's Wonderment Palace

6/22 Birmingham AL
6/23 Alanta GA w/ The Power And The Glory
6/24 Tallahassee FL w/ The Power And The Glory
6/25 Tampa FL w/ The Power And The Glory
6/26 Miami FL
6/27 Orlando FL
6/28 St. Augustine FL (early show) / Jacksonville FL (late show)
6/29 Savannah GA @ The Jinx
6/30 Columbia SC

dates w/ The Power And The Glory
7/1 Charlotte NC w/ Control
7/2 Richmond VA w/ Control
7/3 Harrisonburg VA w/ Control
7/4 Washington DC
7/5 Baltimore MD
7/6 Newark DE
7/7 Philadelphia PA
7/8 New Brunswick NJ w/ Hot Cross
7/9 New York NY @ ABC No Rio w/ Hot Cross

7/21 Howell NJ @ The Lakeside Lounge
7/24 Palmer MA @ The Shed
7/25 Syracuse NY
7/26 Quebec QC, Canada
7/27 Montreal QC, Canada
7/28 Ottawa ON, Canada
7/29 Toronto Canada
7/30 Detroit MI
7/31 Cleveland OH

dates w/ Camp Climax For Girls
8/1 Columbus OH
8/2 Indianapolis IN
8/3 Louisville KY
8/4 St. Louis MO

8/5 Chicago IL
8/7 Madison WI @ The Owl Sanctuary
8/8 Minneapolis MN
8/9 Sioux Falls SD
8/10 Omaha NE @ The Fort House
8/11 Denver CO
8/12 Salt Lake City UT
8/13 Boise ID @ Yosada
8/14 Seattle WA

dates w/ Malady, Coaxial
8/15 Vancouver BC, Canada
8/16 Olympia WA
8/17 Portland OR
8/18 Eugene OR
8/19 Sacramento CA
8/20 San Francisco CA
8/21 Ventura CA @ The Loft w/ Tobias
8/22 Anaheim CA w/ Tobias

www.myspace.com/bleedingkansas

And if you're in the area where they're doing dates together, I HIGHLY suggest you go support another great SoCal band, Graf Orlock. www.graforlock.com

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Bleeding Kansas touring all over this summer, go support them.

dates w/ Lords
6/2 Ventura CA @ The Loft
6/7 Burbank CA @ Daniel's Garage
6/8 Los Angeles CA @ The Smell
6/9 Phoenix AZ @ The Phix w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/10 Tucson AZ @ The Boardwalk Cafe w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/11 Clovis NM @ The Hole w/ Blues For The Martyrs
6/12 Colorado Springs CO

6/13 Wichita KS
6/14 Tulsa OK
6/15 Dallas TX w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack
6/16 Austin TX w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack

dates w/ Graf Orlock
6/17 Houston TX @ Fitxgeralds w/ The Kidnap Soundtrack
6/18 Baton Rouge LA
6/19 Hattiesburg MS
6/20 Memphis TN
6/21 Clarksville TN @ Chad's Wonderment Palace

6/22 Birmingham AL
6/23 Alanta GA w/ The Power And The Glory
6/24 Tallahassee FL w/ The Power And The Glory
6/25 Tampa FL w/ The Power And The Glory
6/26 Miami FL
6/27 Orlando FL
6/28 St. Augustine FL (early show) / Jacksonville FL (late show)
6/29 Savannah GA @ The Jinx
6/30 Columbia SC

dates w/ The Power And The Glory
7/1 Charlotte NC w/ Control
7/2 Richmond VA w/ Control
7/3 Harrisonburg VA w/ Control
7/4 Washington DC
7/5 Baltimore MD
7/6 Newark DE
7/7 Philadelphia PA
7/8 New Brunswick NJ w/ Hot Cross
7/9 New York NY @ ABC No Rio w/ Hot Cross

7/21 Howell NJ @ The Lakeside Lounge
7/24 Palmer MA @ The Shed
7/25 Syracuse NY
7/26 Quebec QC, Canada
7/27 Montreal QC, Canada
7/28 Ottawa ON, Canada
7/29 Toronto Canada
7/30 Detroit MI
7/31 Cleveland OH

dates w/ Camp Climax For Girls
8/1 Columbus OH
8/2 Indianapolis IN
8/3 Louisville KY
8/4 St. Louis MO

8/5 Chicago IL
8/7 Madison WI @ The Owl Sanctuary
8/8 Minneapolis MN
8/9 Sioux Falls SD
8/10 Omaha NE @ The Fort House
8/11 Denver CO
8/12 Salt Lake City UT
8/13 Boise ID @ Yosada
8/14 Seattle WA

dates w/ Malady, Coaxial
8/15 Vancouver BC, Canada
8/16 Olympia WA
8/17 Portland OR
8/18 Eugene OR
8/19 Sacramento CA
8/20 San Francisco CA
8/21 Ventura CA @ The Loft w/ Tobias
8/22 Anaheim CA w/ Tobias

www.myspace.com/bleedingkansas

And if you're in the area where they're doing dates together, I HIGHLY suggest you go support another great SoCal band, Graf Orlock. www.graforlock.com

k I'll try checking out a show down in SoCal :thumb:

[BuddyBigsby]

If you live down here just go to the show on May 29th at Chain. They're playing with Radiation 4 (everyone must see this band live at least once), Breather Resist (Sort of like a metally, violent screamo band), and Cult of Luna.

[Wow]

I don't think that they'll be going to England. They don't even ship merch overseas. I'm also going to see them on the 28th - so obviously you're in Ohio aswell.


Word. Maybe I'll see you. Chances are I won't, though.

[TheHonkingClown]

emo sucks, screamo sucks. just plain ****. OH LOOK AT ME IM EMO! BOO HOO HOO poor me

[BuddyBigsby]

Original AND funny!

[40 oz 2 freedom]

So what's up with Bleeding Kansas skipping San Antonio?

[PlasticGangster]

i'll be seeing the pine, gospel, and meneguar on the 17th of may.

[tornpictures]

That should make for a ****ing AWESOME show!!!

[RetiredAt21]

I've never heard of any of those bands.

[cbmartinez]

Sweet, I get to see Bleeding Kansas with Hot Cross.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

If you live down here just go to the show on May 29th at Chain. They're playing with Radiation 4 (everyone must see this band live at least once), Breather Resist (Sort of like a metally, violent screamo band), and Cult of Luna.
Sweet, thanks. :thumb:

[maggot4875]

can someone give me a good defintion of screamo,and how does it compare to genres like hardcore and metalcore,thanks

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

its emotional with screaming and chaotic music, it has a grindcore edge to it.

[SpecialBoy]

its emotional with screaming and chaotic music, it has a grindcore edge to it.

Grindcore?

[PlasticGangster]

That should make for a ****ing AWESOME show!!!
true that.
i'm excited to hear the pine's new lp.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Any1 here like Breakdance Vietnam?

[BuddyBigsby]

hahahahaha, terrible band.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I've only herd 3 songs and out of those i only like 1. I was jw do ppl think they r good and do they recommend othr songs.

[SpecialBoy]

I've only herd 3 songs and out of those i only like 1. I was jw do ppl think they r good and do they recommend othr songs.

Correction:

I've only heard three songs and out of those I only like one. I was wondering if anybody thinks that they are good and have they any other good songs by them to recommend?

[DFelon204409]

This is a community thread so I thought I'd mention today in my Rugby game I got kicked in the face and bled and stuff. It was totally emo. Hopefully I get some pictures of this. The swollen lip is pretty savage. I mean screamo.

[Lowend]

I was wondering if anybody thinks that they are good and have they any other good songs by them to recommend?

that just sounds bad

[cbmartinez]

This is a community thread so I thought I'd mention today in my Rugby game I got kicked in the face and bled and stuff. It was totally emo. Hopefully I get some pictures of this. The swollen lip is pretty savage. I mean screamo.

Rugby is a hardcore sport, not emo. Go play some crab soccer, that's emo.

/torn

[Bartender]

Crab soccer?

[cbmartinez]

It's where you go into like the bridge position with your body facing up and use your hands as your "back feet" and you play with a ridiculously large ball.

[BuddyBigsby]

This is a community thread so I thought I'd mention today in my Rugby game I got kicked in the face and bled and stuff. It was totally emo. Hopefully I get some pictures of this. The swollen lip is pretty savage. I mean screamo.

That's what you get for playing a British sport. Go drive on the wrong side of the road, commie.

[Bartender]

It's where you go into like the bridge position with your body facing up and use your hands as your "back feet" and you play with a ridiculously large ball.

People actually play this? :-/

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My friends....... Indoor Soccer not Crab Soccer is totally screamo.....

[Bitter]

Bochi ball is soooo post hardcore

[tornpictures]

true that.
i'm excited to hear the pine's new lp.

I heard it was alot like 'Days Slipping By' so I'm not too stoked.

[SpecialBoy]

I stopped playing rugby because whenever I tackled this fat kid in my class his arse always went into my face.

[RetiredAt21]

Rugby is too rough for me. I'm too pretty for that.

[daghettoalbanian]

http://maverick.fanpimp.com/themessengers/index.html?fuseaction=tools.invlink&u=daghettoalbanian&linkID=6

check this band out i dunno if they really fit into this catagory but i thikn they pretty good

[_Alexisonfire_]

If rugby is hardcore, then hockey is nu-metal*


*absolute suckage

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

If rugby is hardcore, then hockey is nu-metal*


*absolute suckage
Wouldn't that make ping-pong Indie and Beach Volleyball Pop-Punk

[cbmartinez]

Okay, shutup now.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Skiing is melodic Metalcore

[captainhaddock]

naked mud wrestling is definitely chaotic emo

[RetiredAt21]

Bowling is grind as f*ck.

[Bitter]

Checkers is jazz infused techno with melodic death metal breakdowns.

[SpecialBoy]

Bowling is grind as f*ck.

That's tiddlywinks, son.

[DFelon204409]

Next person to liken a sport to a genre will get banned. It got old even before I did it.

[Bitter]

Next person to liken a sport to a genre will get banned. It got old even before I did it.
Sieg heil mein fuhrer.

[RetiredAt21]

Hahaha, Bitter, let's be friends.

[DFelon204409]

Friends will not be allowed either. Only Hot Cross on repeat.

[RetiredAt21]

I like Hot Cross.

[DFelon204409]

I still haven't seen them live. I've seen pics and have heard that they're really great.

[RetiredAt21]

I would love to see them live. I've heard they put on a fantastic show.

[Electric Ocean]

I didn't really want to make a new thread so I thought I'd post it here. Do Indian Summer have any other songs which are as good as Angry Son. I've only heard Sugar Pill And I Think Your Train Is Leaving but they just don't seem to be up to the same standard. Also, does anyone know where their discography would be availible from, because I've looked and no where seems to have it. I'll probably get it if there are other good songs on there.

[new noise]

this ship will sink makes me happy. haha .

[Wow]

I didn't really want to make a new thread so I thought I'd post it here. Do Indian Summer have any other songs which are as good as Angry Son. I've only heard Sugar Pill And I Think Your Train Is Leaving but they just don't seem to be up to the same standard. Also, does anyone know where their discography would be availible from, because I've looked and no where seems to have it. I'll probably get it if there are other good songs on there.


Only one, and it's an unrecorded song. I have it on a live video.


You can get the discography on e-bay. Just search "Indian Summer Science 1994".

[RetiredAt21]

Indian Summer is a pretty good band. Angry Son is definitely an awesome song.

[BuddyBigsby]

I didn't really want to make a new thread so I thought I'd post it here. Do Indian Summer have any other songs which are as good as Angry Son. I've only heard Sugar Pill And I Think Your Train Is Leaving but they just don't seem to be up to the same standard. Also, does anyone know where their discography would be availible from, because I've looked and no where seems to have it. I'll probably get it if there are other good songs on there.

I think Level-Plane's distro has it... if not, search on Ebay. I think the bassist sells it as a Buy It Now constantly. That's how I got my copy.

[Wow]

Yeah, he does. That's also how I got mine.

[Electric Ocean]

What's it like as an album? Is it worth buying?

[BuddyBigsby]

Definitely.

[tornpictures]

The train song is my favourite Indian Summer song. The split with Embassy is just amazing.

There are also two live shows (mp3 and video) available on SoulSeek. Indian Summer released one of them on CD. It's called 'Live at the Blue Universe.'

[Electric Ocean]

I just looked on level plane's website and couldn't find it so I guess I'll get it off ebay. Anyway, thanks for the help guys. :thumb:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Jeese someone needs to revive this thread.

[SpecialBoy]

/Revives.

So, how about 'dem e-mos?

[RetiredAt21]

Your avatar is frightening.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Oh, yes baby...... the emo/screamo community thread is back!

[StandingStill]

So. What are Small Brown Bike?

[PlasticGangster]

today i bought fair trades and farewells and the pine/la quiete split. i also wheatpasted a lot of fliers for that meneguar, gospel, and the pine show. man, that show is going to rule.

[Crowbarsludge]

I give credit to Mek (aka betsy:-P) for this idea

Post all your Emo and Screamo bands/artists/albums/good songs/suggestions in here that fall under the Emo/Screamo category

I hope this works

NO spam!


Now knock yourselves out
I am looking for a bass tab for burning too from fugazi 13 songs

[MoJo_JoJo]

I enjoy emo

[Electric Ocean]

I am looking for a bass tab for burning too from fugazi 13 songs

Someones tried to tab it in the tab section but they seem to have done a
rubbish job. Try working it out from that though, or alternatively www.google.com

[sink sink]

today i bought fair trades and farewells and the pine/la quiete split. i also wheatpasted a lot of fliers for that meneguar, gospel, and the pine show. man, that show is going to rule.
Meneguar a pretty nifty

[_Alexisonfire_]

Maybe mods could add The Fall Of Troy to the "eclectic/rooted in emo" section, on the first page? I find them to sound a lot like Hot Cross, and they remind me of Fear Before The March of Flames.

Your opinions, everyone?

[BuddyBigsby]

So I just found out Off Minor are coming out here in June....


....and playing in South Central. :upset:

[PlasticGangster]

So I just found out Off Minor are coming out here in June....


....and playing in South Central. :upset:
GO!!!!

[PlasticGangster]

also, are there any other dates!?

[BuddyBigsby]

GO!!!!

Dude... it's South Central.

I'd rather drive 2 hours to San Diego, assuming they're playing the Che Cafe down there, which most emo/screamo bands play. I'm trying to find dates to see if there's another one I can go to, I found that date on the venue's myspace page.

[PlasticGangster]

blasts! i didn't find anything. i want to know if they're coming anywhere close to here. i'll take the bus if i have to!

[Firecracker]

What's the definition of screamo, does anyone wanna tell me?

[Electric Ocean]

heavy fast screamed hardcore parts, with abrupt starts and stops and guitar focus more from the classic emo side, and quiet, twinkly melodic parts in between.

Check out some of the bands on the first page, you need to hear it really. Try Saetia or Circle Takes The Square.

[Sep]

Yeah I'm kind of waiting for the definition Torn and Dfelon were gonna do.

Anyway, it's just an unknown type of music. It's like emo except vocals are usually screamed so little talking like Indian Summer of Saetia and it's more chaotic. A lot of the screamo songs I've heard have longer parts with no singing. The production quality usually isn't very good but neither is that of a most emo.

Anyway, that's just what I picked up from it, and I am no expert in this genre (or any genre, for that matter) but I am just trying to help you out here.

If I made any mistakes in that I'm sure someone who knows more about this will correct me.

[SpecialBoy]

Check out some of the bands on the first page, you need to hear it really. Try Saetia or Circle Takes The Square.

If I could still vote for you for noob of the month, I would.

[Sep]

There's some emo/screamo bands on Purevolume; check out Circle Takes The Square, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, A Day In Black And White, Van Johnson, Textbook Traitors. Those are all the ones I can remember at the moment.

[Sep]

There are also some The Kodan Armada and Kaospilot mp3s on their official websites, if I remember correctly.

[Electric Ocean]

If I could still vote for you for noob of the month, I would.

Thanks :thumb:

There's some emo/screamo bands on Purevolume; check out Circle Takes The Square, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, A Day In Black And White, Van Johnson, Textbook Traitors. Those are all the ones I can remember at the moment.

Hot Cross are on there too and they're worth checking out.

[Sep]

Yeah but I'm not sure if she asked specifically for 'screamo' bands because with Hot Cross they don't really sound like screamo bands.

But yeah, if you haven't heard them definitely check them out.

[Electric Ocean]

Yeah but I'm not sure if she asked specifically for 'screamo' bands because with Hot Cross they don't really sound like screamo bands.

But yeah, if you haven't heard them definitely check them out.

I suppose, but they do sound a bit like Saetia, or at least they're earlier stuff does and they're a good starting point to get into the genre if you haven't heard much of it before.

[SpecialBoy]

I suppose, but they do sound a bit like Saetia, or at least they're earlier stuff does and they're a good starting point to get into the genre if you haven't heard much of it before.

You know your stuff.

[Rancid Dan]

lolz, first post in Emo/hardcore

[Wow]

Yay for Sep.


If you want like 5-10 screamo songs I'd be more than happy to send you some just so you can get a feel of what the genre's like.

[cbmartinez]

lolz, first post in Emo/hardcore

And a magnificent one at that.

[tornpictures]

Hot Cross aren't emo!

[Bartender]

What are they?

[tornpictures]

A hardcore band.

[DFelon204409]

Says the biggest elitist here. It's really a matter of how tight your definition is. But then again I feel we've already had a good argument on this one. Probably around page 70 or something.

[RetiredAt21]

Hot Cross never really struck me as a hardcore band. But eh, oh well, still amazing.

[tornpictures]

Call them whatever you like, but 'emo' is stretching it.

Calling just about any new band 'emo' is silly. Emo died like 8 years ago, and bands just don't do that kind of music anymore. Of course music evolves, but Hot Cross is so different to say, Indian Summer.

[Death_cab_for_benfolds]

What are underoath and alexisonfire classed as???does any1 like them

[Sep]

Emocore.

I like Alexisonfire a lot and Underoath is okay.

[RetiredAt21]

New Underoath is classifed as crap. Alexisonfire is decent, but that's really stretching it.

[DFelon204409]

Call them whatever you like, but 'emo' is stretching it.

Calling just about any new band 'emo' is silly. Emo died like 8 years ago, and bands just don't do that kind of music anymore. Of course music evolves, but Hot Cross is so different to say, Indian Summer.

Calling them hardcore is stretching it too then. Hardcore brings to mind verse-chorus-breakdown with power chords, shouted vocals, and double time drumming the whole way through. That doesn't describe Hot Cross as much as it describes a component of Hot Cross. To me emo is the most prominent component in Hot Cross' music so the label seems more than fitting.

Of course music evolves. That's an argument people make for Dashboard being emo. EMO EVOLVES U DOOSH! Emo has evolved over the years. I hasn't really changed the core ideas but the sound has expanded. It hasn't freakin' expanded to pop punk like Brand New, but it sure has expanded to include elements of metal and progressive rock. and even jazz with bands like Off Minor. Quit crying for the good ol' days and accept where your genre is going whether you like it or not. You can still listen to your old LPs.

[DFelon204409]

Emocore.

I like Alexisonfire a lot and Underoath is okay.

Emocore is not what they're classified as.

[Bartender]

Isn't emocore a tautology of sorts?

[RetiredAt21]

Emo stands for emotional hardcore, so really, emocore, doesn't make any sense.

[Sep]

Emocore is not what they're classified as.

Tell me what they are then, and don't say popcore.

[Shikyo]

The old Underoath is hardcore - at least I think. I don't know what to think about the new Underoath though. I don't know much about alexisonfire though.

Emocore is obviously more hardcore than Emo. Emo is when bands soften down and lose some of the hardcore elements but they do still have some hardcore there. I'm sure there's a difference between Saetia and Rites of Spring.

EDIT - http://www.fourfa.com <They would have better explainations than I would.

[Electric Ocean]

Emocore is not what they're classified as.

I've seen several people here use that as a label to categorize the type of stuff most misinformed people would call screamo.

[cbmartinez]

We used it for a lack of a better term. However, with the helpful invention of popcore™, we now have a name for it.

[Electric Ocean]

We used it for a lack of a better term. However, with the helpful invention of popcore™, we now have a name for it.

I thought that was used for stuff like The Used; that sort of thing e.g. Pop-punk with screaming. Alexis, especially their first album, strays quite alot from that type of music.

[cbmartinez]

True, the first album does have a little more depth to it. But new Underoath is definitely popcore.

[Electric Ocean]

True, the first album does have a little more depth to it. But new Underoath is definitely popcore.

Yeah definitely. But this still leaves the question: What genre would Alexis fall under?

Answers on a postcard.

[BuddyBigsby]

I really just think of them as a poppy/melodic rock band. There's really nothing "core" about them.

[cbmartinez]

But dey screem.

[Electric Ocean]

I really just think of them as a poppy/melodic rock band. There's really nothing "core" about them.

Even on their self-titled? It's not exaclty poppy; most of the songs don't have a chorus and it has lots of those melodic, atmospheric almost screamo-esque bits (althought the heavy parts are nowhere as near as chaotic).

Anyway, I guess they're just one of those bands that sort of fall inbetween genres.

[BuddyBigsby]

Even on their self-titled? It's not exaclty poppy; most of the songs don't have a chorus and it has lots of those melodic, atmospheric almost screamo-esque bits (althought the heavy parts are nowhere as near as chaotic).

Anyway, I guess they're just one of those bands that sort of fall inbetween genres.

Take out the screaming. It's still not "core". The music is far too structured and yes, poppy, for that.

[DFelon204409]

Tell me what they are then, and don't say popcore.

Alexisonfire is post-hardcore. An interesting/melodic take on modern hardcore. Post-hardcore. Ya that makes sense.

Underoath epitomizes popcore so I'm not going to cater to your request. They are pop punk/hardcore if you don't want to compress it to popcore.

[cbmartinez]

I wouldn't call the new album post-hardcore.

[pixiesfanyo]

I wouldn't call the new album post-hardcore.

Hey IM me at Pixiesfanyo if you want a Off Minor cd.

[sink sink]

Anyone have an album suggestion for Off Minor?

[pixiesfanyo]

Innominate.

[PlasticGangster]

nah, the heat death of the universe is where it's at.

[Sep]

Alexisonfire is post-hardcore. An interesting/melodic take on modern hardcore. Post-hardcore. Ya that makes sense.

Underoath epitomizes popcore so I'm not going to cater to your request. They are pop punk/hardcore if you don't want to compress it to popcore.

Yeah I suppose I've always seen emocore and post-hardcore as pretty much the same thing.
I was going to say post-hardcore but then I didn't think that sounded right for Underoath.

[pixiesfanyo]

nah, the heat death of the universe is where it's at.

Have you ever heard Innominate, it takes everything from Heat Death and makes it better.

[tornpictures]

nah, the heat death of the universe is where it's at.

I agree.
I definitely prefer Heat Death to Innominate.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahahaha....the past week at my school was hilarious. Last thursday i came to school and started going "You down with O.P.P?". A few kids responded right so i got a group of people to respond in a chant when i said "You down with O.P.P?". So then my other friends started their own group and my group and the other group just had this huge gang war. Both sides would recruit members and fight. It got thru my whole skool. People would go "Who you down w/; O.P.P. or A.R.S.(the othr group). It lasted until teusday when the school put all their staff on the feild to stop it. I fled when we were all caught. Then in the middle of running my friend and I found a cardboard box and started breakdancing when we were caught my the head staff member. My punishment was to stay off the feild for a week. So now the school is all worried about "gangs" and stuff like that. They are inforcing new rules at lunch like you can't be in groups, you can't chant anything, you can't clap, and you can't skip whiling holding hands(this one was enforced after my friend and i were skipping with our hand held and the lady caught me and my friend and told us to stop. So trevor,my friend, said "What about gay rights?"). The principles came out today and were worried. Its pretty weird b/c the school is a little sub-urban middle school and most people there, including myself, live in the sub-urbs.

[RetiredAt21]

...what?

[Converge#12]

...what?
cmon you know emos all about starting fake gangs in middle schools.

[shane italian]

Daughters got signed to Hydra Head.

[BuddyBigsby]

*loses all respect for otherwise great label*

[Bartender]

Maybe it's like a sting operation. Sign them to the label, then screw them over, over and over again, to stop them releasing much.

[DFelon204409]

Daughters got signed to Hydra Head.

They don't make sense next to Harkonen and like old Cave-In.

[~All my life~]

wow emo and punk seem to devide into lots of different types of music, it would be quite cool to make some kind of spider diagram think, showing how the different types come along and examples of the bands who do that music.

[shane italian]

They don't make sense next to Harkonen and like old Cave-In.And Botch and Coalesce...

But whatever. Hydra Head is gonna have a whole new fanbase.

[PlasticGangster]

in other news, malady broke up.

[BuddyBigsby]

Meh.

They should reform Pg. 99 now what with the DVD and reissue of Document 8 coming out.

[PlasticGangster]

no! they should get back together with city of caterpillar. that would be the most amazing thing ever. other than a saetia reunion.

[pixiesfanyo]

Hahahaha....the past week at my school was hilarious. Last thursday i came to school and started going "You down with O.P.P?". A few kids responded right so i got a group of people to respond in a chant when i said "You down with O.P.P?". So then my other friends started their own group and my group and the other group just had this huge gang war. Both sides would recruit members and fight. It got thru my whole skool. People would go "Who you down w/; O.P.P. or A.R.S.(the othr group). It lasted until teusday when the school put all their staff on the feild to stop it. I fled when we were all caught. Then in the middle of running my friend and I found a cardboard box and started breakdancing when we were caught my the head staff member. My punishment was to stay off the feild for a week. So now the school is all worried about "gangs" and stuff like that. They are inforcing new rules at lunch like you can't be in groups, you can't chant anything, you can't clap, and you can't skip whiling holding hands(this one was enforced after my friend and i were skipping with our hand held and the lady caught me and my friend and told us to stop. So trevor,my friend, said "What about gay rights?"). The principles came out today and were worried. Its pretty weird b/c the school is a little sub-urban middle school and most people there, including myself, live in the sub-urbs.


That makes no sense, as O.P.P. isn't a gang. It's black slang for somebodies **** buddy.

You stupid stupid person.

[BuddyBigsby]

No, Pg. 99. Then CoC if they have time.

[PlasticGangster]

never!!

[RetiredAt21]

Pg. 99 is luscious.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Since The Mars Volta is considered post-hardcore can we post threads about them in here or should I take it to the Alt/Indie forum?

[cbmartinez]

Though technically they have post-hardcore in them, they are an indie/space rock band.

[BuddyBigsby]

That and everybody in their right mind should be sick of talking about them.

[tornpictures]

No, Pg. 99. Then CoC if they have time.

Nah man, City of Caterpillar are seriously waaay better.

Pg. 99 just don't sound fresh or original to me anymore, City of Caterpillar still do.
And Saetia reunion? Fugeddabouttit. None of them want to do it.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I just won a free PsP

[RetiredAt21]

Are you serious? PSP's rule.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Ya, I won it online it just takes a f'ucking long time to claim it. I've completed a few surveys.

[Electric Ocean]

How'd you win it? Could be a scam.

[conniption]

most of them arent, you just give up because of all the paper work you have to do, and all this paper work leads to other stuff eventually making it not worth your time.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I shot the agent from the matrix. I jus gave them an e-mail address i don't use anymore and my cell fone number.

[conniption]

haha, oh well, maybe youll get it, just remember you cant buy time.

[RetiredAt21]

PSP's are awesome. My friend has one. I told him he can have my sister if he gives me his PSP.

[Wow]

I love my PSP. Ridge Racer is the ****. It's almost as good as Driftwood.

[PlasticGangster]

in other news, malady broke up.
ldldl

[BuddyBigsby]

Nah man, City of Caterpillar are seriously waaay better.

Pg. 99 just don't sound fresh or original to me anymore, City of Caterpillar still do.
And Saetia reunion? Fugeddabouttit. None of them want to do it.

I'll give you that about CoC, but ever have one of those bands where you just have an unexplainable, undying boner for them? Yeah, that's me and the P.

[Electric Ocean]

I really wanna check out Off Minor, anyone got anything by them and have MSN or Soulseek?

[cbmartinez]

I have The Heat Death Of The Universe on AIM. I got it from Pixies.

[PlasticGangster]

Nah man, City of Caterpillar are seriously waaay better.

Pg. 99 just don't sound fresh or original to me anymore, City of Caterpillar still do.
And Saetia reunion? Fugeddabouttit. None of them want to do it.
i know :upset: but i can still dream.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My little brother is running for School President for my middle school. He'll most likely win. He is the best 7th grader, he is the only one that actually knows what hardcore is. Oh, well too bad i can't vote, I'm in 8th grade :upset:

[Wow]

"Our school dances will be filled with great hxc and we'll spin kick and two step the night away!"


*One random hardcore kid cheers*

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

We're joking around saying if he doesn't win the school is racsist.

[Shikyo]

"Our school dances will be filled with great hxc and we'll spin kick and two step the night away!"


*One random hardcore kid cheers*
haha, that would be so great.

I've never seen any 7th/8th grade hardcore kids. It's awesome that kids that age actually know what music is. All of the 7th/8th grade people I see either wear Good Charlotte shirts, or are into rap and stuff.

Go 7th grader running for class president!

[Wow]

6th grade Indian Summer fan, represent! I was so cool.

[RetiredAt21]

6th grade Slipknot fan...

*ashamed*

EDIT: I was the most moronic 6th grader ever.

[Shikyo]

I'm one better than you. 6th grade Korn fan. I'm ashamed aswell. My cousin then got me into punk around my 6th grade year and he listened to a little hardcore aswell and it just went from there.

I wish I was a 6th grade Indian Summer fan... or a 6th grade something-better-that-Korn fan.

[RetiredAt21]

Eh, I liked Korn too. I was a nu-metal loving 6th grader.

[Shikyo]

Same here. Even worse... I was a rap loving 5th grader before that. Someone shoot me.

EDIT - This went really off-topic. Sorry if it makes anyone mad because this is a emo/screamo topic and this post had nothing to do with emo/screamo.

[Wow]

It's a community thread.


So who wants to hook me up with everything released by Burned Out Bright?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahahaha...... I'm the only kid at my school that actually knows what hardcore/emo/screamo is. I used to listenin to Sugar Ray in 5th grade. I also thought I was a bada'ss because I listened to Marlyn Manson. I hate those bands now. I got into punk in 6th grade with the Dead Kennedy's and I've always been into The Ramones since I was little, but i never knew what they were.

[RetiredAt21]

I went through a Marilyn Manson phase too. Ugh...

[Converge#12]

Hahahaha...... I'm the only kid at my school that actually knows what hardcore/emo/screamo is. I used to listenin to Sugar Ray in 5th grade. I also thought I was a bada'ss because I listened to Marlyn Manson. I hate those bands now. I got into punk in 6th grade with the Dead Kennedy's and I've always been into The Ramones since I was little, but i never knew what they were.
wow so many kids in my school are into hardcore. Its crazy how many there are. There are quite a few self proclaimed "emo" kids that dont listen to real emo music as well.

[cbmartinez]

Sugar Ray's 14:59 was one of my first albums. That was some ill screamo.

[RetiredAt21]

I can't believe some of the garbage I used to listen to.

[Converge#12]

Well kids when they're younger tend to like more popular music. If they listen to the rock side usually they will get into better music as they get older.

[RetiredAt21]

But I didn't listen to it because it was popular, I actually liked it. I thought Slipknot was br00tal.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Well evryone at my school thinks hey know that hardcore is like atreyu or Poison The Well. Oh, thank God I've never been into rap or nu-metal.

[Converge#12]

Well evryone at my school thinks hey know that hardcore is like atreyu or Poison The Well. Oh, thank God I've never been into rap or nu-metal.
lucky

[Converge#12]

luckily for me my local scene is good.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Well I do go to a middle school. Maybe next year in high school there will be knowledgeable people, but of course they will be accompanied by ignorants.

[Converge#12]

Well I do go to a middle school. Maybe next year in high school there will be knowledgeable people, but of course they will be accompanied by ignorants.
yeah well if you lived in my town you'd be in high school.

[sink sink]

Well I do go to a middle school. Maybe next year in high school there will be knowledgeable people, but of course they will be accompanied by ignorants.
That's what I thought would happen when I was going into high school. No such luck.

[Electric Ocean]

wow so many kids in my school are into hardcore. Its crazy how many there are. There are quite a few self proclaimed "emo" kids that dont listen to real emo music as well.

I think everywhere in the world has at least a few of those nowadays.

[RetiredAt21]

Most of the kids that go to my school claim to listen to emo. But they listen to stuff like Taking Back Sunday, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year, the Used, etc...

[AndreTheHyena]

Sugar Ray's 14:59 was one of my first albums. That was some ill screamo.

Ha, I loved that album. I still do, actually. It's a nice slice of summertime pop-rock.

The first cd I bought was, I think, Let's Face It by the Bosstones, or maybe a Green Day cd. I can't remember. Bush and Nirvana weren't far behind.

[BuddyBigsby]

Sugar Ray's album before that rocked. Before they sold out.

[RetiredAt21]

Sugar Ray used to be a thrash band right?

[BuddyBigsby]

Not thrash but sorta skate punkish.

[QuietRobert]

Well I do go to a middle school. Maybe next year in high school there will be knowledgeable people, but of course they will be accompanied by ignorants.

More like IGNORAMI!

Cool word for a secksay person.

[Converge#12]

Most of the kids that go to my school claim to listen to emo. But they listen to stuff like Taking Back Sunday, Hawthorne Heights, Story of the Year, the Used, etc...
same here

[~All my life~]

I went through a KoRn phase! *shudders* I've downloaded some emo music, I notice alot of it sounds like its been recorded with bad equipment, but I suppose that makes it more punk like. None of these bands seem to be known except from via the internet! I'm taking about bands like Stop It!!

[BuddyBigsby]

Wow, he actually hit the nail on the head.

[StandingStill]

Not thrash but sorta skate punkish.
Didnt they rap as well?

[Wow]

I can't find any Stop It!!. It's pissing me off.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

My friend goes around saying he is emo and needs someone to cheer him up. I'd tried explaining to him the real definition. Oh, well some of those fake-emo bands are pretty good. I dig Coheed and Cambria, Senses Fail, and some other bands. Then some kids at my school go "do u cut yourself? Are you a ***** emo kid?" It gets annoying. There is so much macho bullsh'it at my school.

[Wow]

Too much emo bullshit up in this piece. Everyone here cuts themselves and listens to Finch.

[PlasticGangster]

I can't find any Stop It!!. It's pissing me off.
i'll hook you up dood. instant message me, ohnoarobot.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

People here cut themselves and then show it off to everyone. I feel sorry for them that they actually need that much attention. Then kids here also think these "hardcore" kids (really metalcore) and "screamo" kids (really post-hardcore or "pop-core") are tough and angry and violent. I listen to a bunch of that stuff and I'm seriously so easy to throw around.

[BuddyBigsby]

Didnt they rap as well?

Not that I know of. Maybe some fast singing though.


Wow: I have Stop It!!! on soulseek. I'm at work right now but I think I'm signed on. Name's BuddyBigsby. Go into Albums, then Emo. I have their Self Made Maps album in there.

[Wow]

<3 people who offered to hook me up with Stop It!! Currently raping Buddy's collection. /insert oral secks scene here

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Many people at my school also think being straight edge is stupid and retarded.

[Shikyo]

Well, personally I don't really like straight edge. I have many friends that are straight edge so I'm not against it or anything. At my school I have people that claim to be straight edge and then they say that I'm weird because I'm a vegitarian... and I've also had straight edge kids ask me if I had any pills. So yeah, I guess they're just stupid and don't know what they're doing. I don't really like straight edge because it's just another lable and such for people to argue about and I think that we already have enough lables being thrown around at people. If you want to be drug free, and a vegitarian - then good. If you don't want to be - then good as well. It's your life.

[Wow]

My joke band did a song called "Straight Edge Is A ****ing Joke." It's called icecreamxcore and we got sooo many hate-mails from scene kids with names like "xmybrokenheartistrampledonbyautumnsdarkleavesandcu twiththerazorbladesofyourwordsx"
The thing is, none of our songs are serious, they're all about icecream. The lyrics were like "STRAIGHT EDGE IS FOR PUSSIES! I BET YOU ****S EAT VANILLA OFF OF A CONE! CONES ARE FOR PUSSIES!" Good times.

[Shikyo]

Oh my, that's funny. Happen to have any MP3s?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Well, personally I don't really like straight edge. I have many friends that are straight edge so I'm not against it or anything. At my school I have people that claim to be straight edge and then they say that I'm weird because I'm a vegitarian... and I've also had straight edge kids ask me if I had any pills. So yeah, I guess they're just stupid and don't know what they're doing. I don't really like straight edge because it's just another lable and such for people to argue about and I think that we already have enough lables being thrown around at people. If you want to be drug free, and a vegitarian - then good. If you don't want to be - then good as well. It's your life.
Oh, dude its totally cool if you're not straight edge. I don't bag on people or pressure them to follow my lifestyle. It's just a personal option. Ig you're staight edge good for you. If you're not that's cool. There is no need for violence or insults from any side. It's pointless. Straight edge is up to the person and its not a big deal if someone isn't edge. Ya, that's just my opinion. But the person that told me that straight edge is gay and retarded was completely off base. They went on and said "straight edge people are p'ussies that can't take risk because they're afraid and because they're mama's boys". So ya, no harm no foul if you're not edge. I base my opinion of people on their personalities not way of life or religion or looks.

[CommieCanada]

i love straight edge kids. they are awesome. they dont need booze or drugs to have fun. i respect that a lot.

/drinks, smokes

[AndreTheHyena]

i love straight edge kids. they are awesome. they dont need booze or drugs to have fun. i respect that a lot.

/drinks, smokes

123. But I don't smoke. I refuse to inhale anything into my lungs. But I really like sXe kids, as long as they're not militant.

[CommieCanada]

123. But I don't smoke. I refuse to inhale anything into my lungs. But I really like sXe kids, as long as they're not militant.
but wut about oxygen omg wtf?!?!?!??!?!!!!!!1!!! lolz

[AndreTheHyena]

HAHA LOLZ UR CLEVER>>>>I DUN GET IT.

Yeah, I like breathing.

[CommieCanada]

HAHA LOLZ UR CLEVER>>>>I DUN GET IT.

Yeah, I like breathing.
breathing is punk rock

[AndreTheHyena]

No, dying is punk rock.

[CommieCanada]

so is head butting the sidewalk

[Electric Ocean]

Does anyone here happen to know when Hot Cross will be releasing some new material? I think I saw DFelon post something about it before.

[RetiredAt21]

Has the new Hot Cross leaked yet? I'd really like to hear some.

[AndreTheHyena]

Local band that I met at work a few nights back: http://myspace.com/faye

Not bad, and nice kids.

[StandingStill]

Post-hardcore I suppose, since they sound like Coheed&Cambria. Never could get past the vocals...or the music for that matter :p Definately not emo unless they had some completely different early stuff that I never heard.

[Wow]

From what I've heard, they're a pop-core band. Then again I've only heard one song and that was a while ago.

[DFelon204409]

Post-hardcore I suppose, since they sound like Coheed&Cambria. Never could get past the vocals...or the music for that matter :p Definately not emo unless they had some completely different early stuff that I never heard.

Haha. Coheed and Cambria and A Static Lullaby sound nothing alike. ASL is a really bad Grade rip off with a fashioncore look. The bassist is nice but the lead singer is a huge jerkoff.

[Wow]

Anyone here into Still Life? I never see anyone talking about them. I personally love them.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I would say ASL are pop-punk

[BuddyBigsby]

Haha. Coheed and Cambria and A Static Lullaby sound nothing alike. ASL is a really bad Grade rip off with a fashioncore look. The bassist is nice but the lead singer is a huge jerkoff.

I can confirm this.

They're from my town and I work with a lot of people that went to high school with him. One of the girls that works up here was really good friends with him. Apparently around the time he got into "hardcore" he turned into a huge prick and got into cocaine and stuff. Supposedly he's off of it now but he's probably still a douche.

Also, my friend punched out their drummer once.

[CommieCanada]

Anyone here into Still Life? I never see anyone talking about them. I personally love them.
<3 still life

[Forest_Fire]

http://emosucks.freecyberzone.com/index.html



haha this site is horrible. And very ignorant

[BridgeToSolace]

http://emosucks.freecyberzone.com/index.html



haha this site is horrible. And very ignorant

...And they have Mr. Bungle listed under Punk/Oi...wtf?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I left a message on that website saying that they had no idea what emo is and emo is emotional hardcore. What an ignorant website.

[AndreTheHyena]

OMG ur a MEXICAN.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

OMG ur a MEXICAN.
Hey! It's Mexican-American to you. Ya I am, but I don't live in the ghetto
I live in the sub-urbs. :thumb: Whats the big deal?